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WE
USED
TO
SAY
TEN
TO
sp
FIFTEEN
HOURS
WORK
A
sp
WEEK
sp
YEAH
ERM
FOR
ONE
sp
OF
sp
THEIR
SUBJECTS
YOU
KNOW
ONE
OF
sp
THEIR
MAIN
sp
YEAH
sp
ER
sp
FULL
sp
COURSES
sp
AND
I
THINK
TOO
PEOPLE
TEND
TO
SAY
sp
ABOUT
THAT
LEVEL
FOR
SOMETHING
LIKE
THE
ACCOUNTANCY
sp
RIGHT
ERM
sp
QUALIFICATION
SO
sp
THAT'S
PROBABLY
WHAT
YOU'RE
LOOKING
AT
YEAH
THAT'S
sp
ERM
sp
THAT'S
ACTUALLY
NOT
{OOV}
REALLY
sp
IT
ISN'T
THAT
MUCH
IS
IT
REALLY
NOT
IF
YOU'RE
sp
DOING
BAR
WELL
sp
WELL
YEAH
IT
CAN
WORK
QUITE
WELL
WITH
BAR
WORK
COS
BAR
WORK'S
A
REAL
sp
PAIN
sp
COS
IT
YEAH
SPLITS
THE
DAY
UP
IN
SUCH
YEAH
AN
AWKWARD
sp
WAY
sp
DOESN'T
sp
IT
YEAH
sp
BUT
IF
YOU
GET
IN
A
COUPLE
OF
HOURS
sp
YEAH
AND
YOU
WORK
REALLY
HARD
AT
IT
AND
THEN
YOU
GO
sp
BACK
AND
DO
YOUR
sp
YEAH
YOU
KNOW
IT'S
I
MEAN
{OOV}
FIFTEEN
HOURS
IN
sp
IN
A
WEEK
IS
sp
NOT
sp
MUCH
sp
AT
ALL
WHEN
YOU
sp
CONSIDER
HOW
MUCH
sp
YOU'RE
EXPECTED
sp
TO
sp
DO
sp
FOR
A
DEGREE
{OOV}
RIGHT
{OOV}
WELL
IT
MAY
BE
OF
sp
COURSE
YOU
SEE
ON
THE
OTHER
sp
HAND
THE
sp
ACCOUNTANCY
TAKES
THREE
sp
YEARS
sp
NOW
sp
ER
IT
sp
IT
COULD
BE
IT
YES
sp
BUT
I
THINK
YOU
NEED
TO
CHECK
THAT
TO
TO
SEE
AH
YES
IT
sp
COULD
BE
THAT
YOU'RE
EXPECTED
TO
DO
THIRTY
HOURS
A
WEEK
{OOV}
YEAH
YES
RIGHT
YEAH
WHAT
THEY
AND
THEY
IF
IT'S
A
GOOD
sp
COURSE
THEY
SHOULD
ACTUALLY
sp
HAVE
SOME
SORT
OF
ESTIMATE
sp
OF
sp
THIS
YEAH
sp
YOU
sp
KNOW
ERM
sp
AND
sp
I
MEAN
YOU'VE
OBVIOUSLY
GOT
TO
JUDGE
A
BIT
YOUR
OWN
sp
CAPACITY
sp
YEAH
TO
SAY
sp
WELL
sp
IF
IT'S
A
sp
LOT
OF
sp
IT'S
sp
ERM
sp
MAYBE
THERE'S
QUITE
A
LOT
OF
FIGURE
WORK
sp
OR
sp
SOMETHING
YEAH
THEN
sp
IF
YOU'RE
NOT
ACTUALLY
sp
FRIGHTFULLY
HOT
sp
AT
THAT
{LG}
YES
sp
THEN
MAYBE
THAT'S
GOING
TO
TAKE
YOU
A
BIT
LONGER
sp
SO
YEAH
sp
YOU
KNOW
sp
YOU
MAYBE
ERR
ON
THE
SAFE
SIDE
A
sp
BIT
sp
BUT
sp
AS
YOU
SAY
EVEN
IF
IT'S
ERM
sp
WELL
THIRTY
HOURS
sp
WOULD
BE
GETTING
sp
YEAH
ER
sp
QUITE
sp
PROBABLY
DOABLE
BUT
YEAH
YOU
DON'T
WANT
MUCH
sp
MORE
THAN
THAT
DO
YOU
DON'T
WANT
MUCH
MORE
THAN
THAT
sp
NO
OH
AS
YOU
sp
YOU
KNOW
sp
ANYWAY
sp
I
THINK
THAT'S
WORTH
sp
CHECKING
sp
I
THINK
THE
ER
THE
COURSE
ACTUALLY
LEADS
TO
MM
sp
COMPLETE
EXEMPTION
FROM
sp
THE
THE
EXAMS
DOES
IT
YES
sp
ALL
THE
EXAMS
sp
YEAH
THEN
YOU'VE
GOT
TO
GET
THE
EXPERIENCE
sp
YEAH
PRESUMABLY
TO
sp
QUALIFY
sp
YEAH
sp
I
THINK
I
THINK
ONCE
YOU'VE
ERM
YEAH
DONE
THAT
YOU'RE
THEN
sp
YOU
THEN
sp
ARE
IN
A
POSITION
TO
JOIN
A
FIRM
MHM
MHM
sp
PROPERLY
STILL
PROBABLY
AS
A
BIT
OF
A
DOGSBODY
AND
THEN
YOU
HAVE
A
SORT
OF
MHM
PROBATIONARY
sp
PERIOD
sp
WHERE
ERM
I
MEAN
IT
DEPENDS
sp
WHAT
YOU'RE
LOOKING
FOR
I
MEAN
THERE
WERE
FIRMS
LIKE
sp
{GAP_ANONYMIZATION}
sp
YOU
KNOW
MM
THIS
HUGE
FIRM
sp
IN
sp
LONDON
sp
ERM
sp
WHO
USED
TO
TAKE
GRADUATE
TRAINEES
ON
YEAH
sp
BUT
THEY
WERE
MUCH
MORE
INTERESTED
IN
PEOPLE
OF
COURSE
WITH
DEGREES
{OOV}
BUT
THEY
DID
TAKE
sp
PEOPLE
WHO
sp
HADN'T
sp
YEAH
NOW
IF
YOU'D
PASSED
THE
EXAMS
sp
YEAH
sp
THEY'D
ER
YOU
MIGHT
IT
MIGHT
BE
WORTH
WRITING
AROUND
TO
SEE
sp
WHAT
THE
OR
OR
EVEN
sp
ASK
THE
sp
PEOPLE
WHO
ARE
RUNNING
THE
CORRESPONDENCE
COURSE
sp
YOU
KNOW
sp
WHAT
YEAH
THE
CHANCES
ARE
OR
OR
WHETHER
THE
PATTERN
IS
THAT
YOU
GET
sp
A
sp
DOGSBODY
JOB
IN
AN
ORDINARY
FIRM
OF
ESTATE
AGENTS
YOU
KNOW
AND
YOU'RE
YEAH
DOING
THAT
sp
AND
THAT'S
WORKING
YOUR
sp
TIME
OUT
SO
THAT
YEAH
THEN
sp
YOU
KNOW
I'M
NOT
SURE
EITHER
WHETHER
OF
COURSE
I
MEAN
ONE
WOULD
sp
HOPE
sp
THAT
ERM
sp
THE
sp
INSTITUTE
sp
WOULD
HAVE
CERTAIN
REQUIREMENTS
ABOUT
sp
THE
sp
ERM
PRACTICAL
PERIOD
sp
THAT
YOU
YEAH
ACTUALLY
HAD
TO
HAVE
EXPERIENCE
OF
MM
sp
X
Y
AND
Z
YOU
KNOW
sp
I
THINK
THERE'S
VERY
STRICT
sp
ERM
YOU
KNOW
sp
{OOV}
ERM
YEAH
SO
sp
SO
sp
SO
YOU
MIGHT
BE
ABLE
TO
FIND
OUT
FROM
THE
INSTITUTE
YES
sp
WHO
WAS
OFFERING
sp
THIS
sp
YES
sp
YES
ERM
sp
AND
sp
THE
APPROACH
THEM
AND
TRY
AND
FIND
OUT
YEAH
sp
WHAT
THE
CHANCES
WERE
COS
I
I
THINK
YOU
PROBABLY
NEED
TO
CHECK
IT
OUT
A
BIT
sp
YEAH
sp
BEFORE
EMBARKING
ON
sp
YOU
KNOW
THAT
I
MEAN
I
MEAN
OBVIOUSLY
THE
IT
MAY
BE
THAT
ERM
sp
THERE'S
VERY
LITTLE
THESE
DAYS
I'M
AFRAID
WHICH
IS
sp
AN
ABSOLUTELY
COPPER
sp
BOTTOMED
sp
GUARANTEE
sp
YOU
KNOW
BUT
IF
IF
IF
THEY
WERE
ABLE
TO
SAY
WELL
sp
YOU
KNOW
YES
WE
DO
TAKE
sp
PEOPLE
WHO'VE
GOT
THE
EXAMS
sp
YOU
KNOW
sp
WE
TOOK
SOMEBODY
sp
LAST
YEAR
sp
OR
sp
WHATEVER
sp
MM
AND
AND
YOU
COULD
GET
A
FEEL
FOR
THE
FACT
THAT
THEY
DID
DO
sp
IT
sp
YEAH
ERM
sp
THEN
sp
YOU
KNOW
THAT
WOULD
sp
BE
SOMETHING
WHEREAS
IF
THEY
SAY
WELL
THE
RECESSION'S
SO
sp
BAD
WE
sp
HAVEN'T
TAKEN
sp
ANYBODY
FOR
THE
LAST
FIVE
YEARS
AND
sp
YOUR
RESEARCHES
CAN'T
UNEARTH
ANYBODY
WHO
SEEMS
TO
BE
PREPARED
TO
sp
ER
sp
GIVE
YOU
EVEN
HALF
A
CHANCE
THEN
I
MEAN
YEAH
IT'S
OBVIOUSLY
NOT
YEAH
sp
{OOV}
sp
PROBABLY
A
VERY
GOOD
IDEA
sp
YEAH
sp
I
MEAN
I
sp
THINK
sp
ERM
READING
AND
sp
SHEFFIELD
sp
AND
sp
WHOEVER
ARE
DOING
THE
COURSE
YEAH
sp
THEY
SHOULD
HAVE
sp
THINGS
ABOUT
WHO
THEY'VE
sp
PLACED
sp
WHERE
sp
WELL
THEY
SHOULD
ERM
THE
THING
IS
YOU
HAVE
TO
BE
SLIGHTLY
CAREFUL
ABOUT
THOSE
BECAUSE
sp
RIGHT
ERM
sp
IT
MAY
DEPEND
ON
WHAT
EXPERIENCE
THE
PEOPLE
HAD
BEFORE
THEY
DID
THE
COURSE
YEAH
AND
sp
YOU
CAN'T
TELL
{OOV}
AND
AND
IF
IF
IF
YOU
KNOW
THEY
HAD
sp
NONE
AT
ALL
sp
YES
sp
AND
sp
TH
YOU
KNOW
THEY
CAME
FROM
AN
ARTS
BACKGROUND
sp
FINE
sp
YOU
KNOW
YEAH
sp
THEN
THEY
REALLY
LIKE
YOU
sp
YEAH
ERM
sp
BUT
sp
YOU
KNOW
IF
IF
THEY'VE
GOT
sp
A
COUPLE
OF
YEARS
sp
IN
sp
ER
SOMETHING
AND
YEAH
I
MEAN
IT
IS
{OOV}
sp
THE
SHEFFIELD
ONE
MM
sp
IT
SAYS
IN
THE
BROCHURE
THAT
THEY'RE
sp
LOOKING
AH
FOR
PEOPLE
sp
WHO
sp
ARE
ER
sp
WHO
HAVE
ALREADY
MAYBE
EX
A
sp
BIT
OF
sp
EXPERIENCE
sp
SO
THEY'VE
AH
YEAH
YEAH
ACTUALLY
SAID
THAT
SO
sp
YES
{OOV}
sp
YEAH
SO
sp
SO
YOU'VE
GOT
TO
BE
SLIGHTLY
CAREFUL
BUT
I
MEAN
IF
YOU
ALREADY
CAN
USE
sp
THEODOLITES
AND
THINGS
THEN
IN
A
SENSE
I
MEAN
sp
WHAT
DO
THEY
MEAN
BY
EXPERIENCE
YEAH
ERM
sp
AND
ER
sp
SO
YOU
KNOW
BUT
YOU'VE
JUST
GOT
TO
BE
SLIGHTLY
CAREFUL
I
THINK
sp
OF
sp
THE
FIGURES
AND
ERM
sp
I
sp
IF
IF
YOU
KNOW
IT'S
MUCH
sp
BETTER
IF
YOU
CAN
TALK
sp
TO
THE
sp
THE
MM
sp
ADMISSIONS
TUTOR
OR
WHATEVER
OR
MM
OR
sp
CONCOCT
A
LETTER
WHICH
ASKS
sp
SOME
VERY
DIRECT
sp
QUESTIONS
sp
YEAH
YOU
sp
KNOW
ERM
sp
ER
sp
WHICH
COVER
THE
BUSINESS
OF
sp
PREVIOUS
EXPERIENCE
sp
AND
{OOV}
OR
SOMEBODY
HOW
MANY
PEOPLE
DO
THEY
HAVE
sp
WITH
sp
YOUR
PARTICULAR
sp
BACKGROUND
OF
sp
A
LITTLE
sp
YEAH
ER
ACTUAL
sp
PRACTICAL
sp
SURVEYING
EXPERIENCE
IN
THE
CONTEXT
sp
OF
ARCHAEOLOGICAL
sp
DIGS
sp
ER
AND
SO
ON
YOU
KNOW
AND
sp
CAN
sp
THEY
SAY
sp
WHAT
THOSE
sp
PEOPLE
sp
HAVE
sp
GONE
ON
TO
sp
YEAH
ERM
sp
I
sp
MEAN
WHAT
WHAT
sp
IDEALLY
I'D
LIKE
sp
TO
DO
IS
TO
sp
GO
sp
IS
TO
GET
THOSE
sp
QUALIFICATIONS
sp
AND
THEN
sp
MOVE
INTO
sp
BACK
INTO
sp
THE
sp
FIELD
sp
OF
OF
ARCHAEOLOGY
WORKING
WITH
OH
I
SEE
SOMEONE
LIKE
ENGLISH
sp
HERITAGE
NATION
sp
TRUST
sp
PEOPLE
LIKE
THAT
WHO
ARE
LO
WHO
ARE
sp
YOU
KNOW
WHO
WORK
WITH
sp
ERM
MM
sp
VALUERS
AND
sp
ER
sp
YOU
sp
KNOW
SURVEYORS
THAT
sp
AND
sp
YOU
sp
KNOW
{OOV}
MM
YOU
KNOW
sp
WORKING
OUT
THE
POTENTIAL
OF
THEIR
sp
LAND
AND
HOW
THEY
CAN
sp
ERM
USE
THEIR
sp
LAND
AND
THEIR
PROPERTIES
TO
THE
sp
BEST
MM
sp
EFFECT
sp
SO
sp
ERM
{OOV}
WHETHER
THAT
MEANS
ACTUALLY
WORKING
DIRECTLY
FOR
THEM
OR
WORKING
FOR
A
COMPANY
WHO
sp
SPECIALIZES
IN
sp
ERM
sp
THE
MANAGEMENT
sp
OF
HISTORIC
ERM
sp
BUILDINGS
sp
OR
sp
ENVIRONMENTS
OR
AREAS
YES
I
TH
I
THINK
YOU'VE
YES
YES
IT'S
TRICKY
ISN'T
IT
I'M
AFRAID
WE
DON'T
sp
KNOW
sp
WHO
THESE
COMPANIES
ARE
YEAH
sp
NOW
THAT'S
WHAT
YOU
REALLY
NEED
TO
sp
FIND
OUT
ISN'T
IT
YEAH
AND
THEN
TO
FIND
OUT
sp
WHAT
sp
SORT
OF
PEOPLE
THEY'VE
GOT
WORKING
FOR
THEM
AND
sp
WHAT
sp
QUALIFICATIONS
sp
YEAH
sp
I
MEAN
ARCHITECTS
USE
THESE
SORT
OF
sp
PEOPLE
DON'T
THEY
YES
sp
YES
sp
YES
sp
BECAUSE
I
REMEMBER
ERM
sp
TALKING
sp
TO
sp
TO
sp
TO
sp
ONE
sp
AND
THERE
ARE
A
NUMBER
IN
YORK
sp
WHO
YES
DO
THIS
SORT
sp
OF
sp
WORK
sp
WELL
I
WOULD
IMAGINE
sp
SO
AND
I
TH
sp
I
sp
THINK
sp
IF
I
sp
TALK
sp
TO
JANE
{GAP_ANONYMIZATION}
sp
YES
SHE
sp
MIGHT
HAVE
SOME
IDEAS
sp
SHE
WOULD
BE
THE
PERSON
WHO
WOULD
KNOW
ABOUT
MM
IT
OR
sp
MARTIN
MAYBE
sp
ERM
sp
YOU
KNOW
MM
YES
sp
YES
AND
POSSIBLY
EVEN
GO
DOWN
TO
THE
sp
TRUST
sp
AND
TALK
sp
TO
THEM
sp
OH
THAT'S
A
GOOD
IDEA
sp
COS
I
sp
GATHER
sp
THE
sp
DEPARTMENT
sp
AND
sp
THE
sp
TRUST
DON'T
sp
QUITE
NO
SO
sp
THEY
MIGHT
KNOW
SOME
DIFFERENT
PEOPLE
BE
BETTER
FOR
DOING
YES
EXACTLY
{LG}
{LG}
YES
{OOV}
YEAH
YEAH
MM
sp
YEAH
sp
YEAH
I
THINK
PERHAPS
THERE
ARE
sp
A
FEW
MORE
sp
PLACES
WHERE
I
CAN
GET
SOME
INFORMATION
sp
BUT
sp
I
THINK
THE
ARCHITECTS
COS
I
WAS
sp
I
WAS
ENGAGED
sp
IN
TRYING
TO
FIND
sp
A
sp
SORT
OF
TEMPORARY
sp
WORK
sp
FOR
ER
SOMEBODY
IN
ARCHAEOLOGY
AND
sp
AND
ERM
sp
I
REMEMBER
I
GOT
TO
S
TO
AN
ARCHITECT
AND
AND
HE
DID
QUITE
A
LOT
OF
THAT
SORT
OF
WORK
YOU
KNOW
AND
THEY
sp
YEAH
WOULD
KNOW
WHO
DO
WHICH
ARCHITECTS
DO
THAT
sp
SORT
OF
sp
WORK
sp
AND
I
sp
THINK
HE
WAS
KEEN
ON
sp
WHETHER
THE
PERSON
COULD
sp
DO
sp
ERM
sp
SORT
OF
SURVEYING
OF
A
OF
A
BUILDING
sp
AND
ACTUALLY
YOU
KNOW
DO
sp
THE
DRAWINGS
YEAH
sp
FOR
IT
sp
SO
THAT
YEAH
I
MEAN
IF
sp
YOU
sp
COULD
DO
THAT
YEAH
WELL
CERTAINLY
THE
YOU
THEN
KNOW
THAT
WE'VE
sp
THAT'S
PART
OF
OUR
TRAINING
WELL
THEY
THEY'RE
VERY
INTERESTED
IN
THAT
BECAUSE
YEAH
YOU
KNOW
sp
THEY
WILL
HAVE
TO
DO
THAT
SORT
OF
THING
AS
PART
OF
sp
A
A
JOB
AND
THEY
DON'T
REALLY
WANT
TO
sp
SPEND
sp
TIME
sp
DOING
IT
sp
ERM
sp
WELL
IT'S
sp
CHEAPER
sp
IF
THEY
sp
CAN
sp
EMPLOY
YEAH
SOMEBODY
YEAH
sp
I
MEAN
I
KNOW
ALSO
sp
ONE
sp
ARCHITECTS
FIRM
sp
IN
GLOUCESTER
sp
WHERE
sp
I
sp
LIVE
OH
YES
SO
THAT
DEALS
WITH
THAT
BECAUSE
sp
WHEN
I
WAS
ORIGINALLY
GOING
TO
DO
MY
sp
ER
sp
DISSERTATION
sp
I
WAS
GOING
TO
LOOK
OH
YES
AT
FARM
BUILDINGS
AND
JANE
{GAP_ANONYMIZATION}
SAID
GET
IN
sp
TOUCH
sp
WITH
sp
OH
I
sp
SEE
THIS
THIS
ARCH
THIS
sp
THIS
ARCHITECT
sp
BECAUSE
THIS
sp
BLOKE
sp
IS
sp
PARTICULARLY
INTERESTED
IN
IT
AND
HE
DEALS
WITH
HISTORIC
BUILDINGS
AND
sp
THINGS
LIKE
THAT
sp
SO
ERM
MHM
sp
YOU
KNOW
I
CAN
sp
ALWAYS
GO
BACK
THERE
AS
WELL
WELL
MAYBE
YOU
COULD
HAVE
A
GO
BACK
THERE
TOO
YES
I
MEAN
IT'S
OBVIOUSLY
BETTER
TO
WORK
IN
BOTH
PLACES
sp
{OOV}
sp
MM
sp
YES
COS
YOU
NEED
ALL
THE
CONTACTS
sp
YOU
CAN
{OOV}
EXACTLY
sp
YES
sp
YEAH
MM
sp
MM
sp
YES
sp
SO
I
sp
THINK
sp
MAYBE
sp
SORT
OF
FIRST
PRIORITY
IS
FIND
OUT
A
BIT
sp
MORE
sp
INFORMATION
sp
THEN
ABOUT
sp
ERM
sp
WHO
EMPLOYS
THESE
SORTS
sp
PEOPLE
I
THINK
THAT'S
RIGHT
I'M
SURE
THE
ARCHITECTS
DO
sp
THOSE
sp
AND
AND
THERE
ARE
SORT
OF
ARCHITECTS
PRACTICES
WHO
ARE
PARTICULARLY
INTERESTED
IN
sp
YEAH
DOING
sp
SORT
OF
HISTORIC
sp
BUILDINGS
AND
SO
sp
ON
ERM
sp
AND
AND
THAT
OF
COURSE
IS
THE
SORT
OF
AREA
THAT
YOU
WANT
TO
GET
INTO
REALLY
ISN'T
IT
sp
EXACTLY
YES
sp
YEAH
ERM
sp
SO
sp
THEY
THAT
MIGHT
BE
sp
QUITE
sp
A
sp
GOOD
AREA
sp
YEAH
I
HADN'T
ACTUALLY
THOUGHT
OF
ARCHITECTS
sp
SO
sp
THAT'S
MM
sp
AND
OF
COURSE
THERE
IS
THE
INSTITUTE
OF
ADVANCED
ARCHITECTURAL
STUDIES
IN
THE
UNIVERSITY
YES
YES
I
MEAN
I
DON'T
KNOW
WHETHER
THEY
sp
AND
THEY
RUN
THIS
CONSERVATION
COURSE
YOU
YEAH
SEE
sp
SO
I
MEAN
THEY
SHOULD
KNOW
sp
THEY
SHOULD
KNOW
WHO
THESE
YEAH
YEAH
WHO
THESE
ARCHITECTS
ARE
sp
ER
IF
YOU
CAN
GET
IN
TO
THEIR
sp
SEE
THEIR
sp
SECRETARY
sp
OR
sp
SOMEBODY
ER
I
sp
EXPECT
sp
I
SEE
SHE
sp
MIGHT
sp
BE
ABLE
sp
TO
sp
YEAH
sp
YOU
KNOW
sp
OR
OR
IF
ANY
OF
YOUR
sp
ERM
sp
ARCHAEOLOGY
KNOW
ANYBODY
IN
sp
THERE
sp
OR
sp
SOMETHING
I'M
SURE
JANE
WILL
sp
YES
sp
KNOW
WELL
sp
SHE
MAY
KNOW
WHO
ARE
sp
THE
ARCHITECTS
ARE
ANYWAY
sp
SHE
I'M
SURE
sp
SHE
sp
WILL
WORKING
sp
WITH
MM
sp
R
C
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sp
{OOV}
MM
I
THINK
I
THINK
THAT'S
A
A
sp
USEFUL
sp
SORT
OF
sp
LINE
sp
YEAH
sp
ERM
sp
AND
ALSO
TO
FIND
OUT
MORE
sp
A
BIT
MORE
ABOUT
THE
CORRESPONDENCE
sp
COURSE
sp
{OOV}
YES
EXACTLY
YOU
KNOW
WHAT
IT
IS
sp
AND
I
MEAN
CLEARLY
I
I
DON'T
THINK
AT
THE
MOMENT
I'M
IN
A
sp
POSITION
TO
sp
TO
APPLY
FOR
sp
A
sp
A
TAUGHT
COURSE
sp
BECAUSE
I
DON'T
HAVE
THE
sp
MONEY
sp
RIGHT
SO
THAT'S
sp
OUT
UNLESS
sp
ERM
sp
YOU
sp
KNOW
{OOV}
OH
OH
THAT'S
I
WAS
GOING
TO
SAY
DO
sp
YOU
DO
YOU
KNOW
ABOUT
CAREER
DEVELOPMENT
sp
LOANS
sp
NO
sp
WELL
I
MEAN
EITHER
sp
BORROWING
THE
MONEY
I'M
AFRAID
YEAH
YES
BUT
I
MEAN
sp
YOU
KNOW
THEY'RE
WHAT
WHAT
WELL
THERE
sp
THERE
IS
A
SORT
sp
FILE
OUT
sp
THERE
sp
ON
THEM
sp
SOMEWHERE
ERM
AND
BASICALLY
WHAT
IT
IS
sp
IS
IT'S
A
GOVERNMENT
SPONSORED
sp
THIS
ER
sp
WHICH
sp
ERM
sp
WELL
THE
RULES
MAY
HAVE
CHANGED
sp
COS
THEY'RE
ALWAYS
CHANGING
sp
THE
RULES
sp
OF
THESE
sp
THINGS
sp
ERM
sp
ER
I
THINK
THEY'RE
PROBABLY
sp
AND
AND
THEY'RE
sp
PUTTING
MORE
EFFORT
INTO
GETTING
THE
UNEMPLOYED
sp
OFF
sp
BEING
UNEMPLOYED
OFF
BEING
sp
UNEMPLOYED
INTO
COURSE
AREN'T
THEY
SO
sp
PROBABLY
THE
THEY
MAY
HAVE
IMPROVED
THINGS
BUT
ANYWAY
sp
THE
BASIC
sp
ERM
IDEA
OF
IT
sp
WAS
sp
THAT
YOU
BORROW
MONEY
sp
ER
sp
YOU
BORROW
sp
ERM
sp
MONEY
TO
FINANCE
A
COURSE
sp
WHICH
IS
GOING
TO
sp
GET
YOU
A
JOB
sp
YEAH
sp
NOW
YOU
COULD
CLAIM
THAT
sp
THIS
sp
WORK
IS
sp
IT'S
OBVIOUSLY
sp
VOCATIONAL
sp
ISN'T
sp
IT
sp
YEAH
ERM
sp
ER
sp
AND
IF
YOU
HAD
DONE
SOME
RESEARCHES
sp
INTO
sp
THE
JOB
OPPORTUNITIES
AND
YOU
sp
YOU
COULD
DECIDE
sp
THAT
sp
THEN
sp
THAT
THAT
sp
WOULD
sp
BE
GOOD
sp
ERM
sp
AND
sp
THE
LIMIT
sp
WAS
FIVE
THOUSAND
POUNDS
FOR
ONE
YEAR
sp
BUT
I
THINK
sp
THEY
ONLY
PAY
sp
HALF
sp
THE
FEES
OR
SOMETHING
sp
OF
WHATEVER
sp
COURSE
IT
sp
IS
sp
AND
IT
sp
ONLY
COURSES
ONE
YEAR'S
DURATION
sp
MAXIMUM
sp
ONE
sp
YEAR
RIGHT
sp
YEAH
WELL
sp
MOST
OF
THESE
ARE
ONE
YEAR
sp
ANYWAY
SO
WELL
THAT'S
FINE
sp
THEN
ERM
sp
AND
WHAT
sp
WHAT
WHAT
sp
HAPPENS
sp
IS
THAT
YOU
DO
IT
THROUGH
A
BANK
sp
BUT
THERE
ARE
BANKS
WHICH
I
sp
THINK
sp
BARCLAYS
AND
sp
THE
COOPERATIVE
sp
BANK
sp
AND
sp
MAYBE
sp
ONE
sp
OR
TWO
sp
OTHERS
DO
IT
AND
ERM
sp
THE
THE
THE
sp
ERM
SCHEME
IS
THAT
THE
GOVERNMENT
sp
PAYS
THE
INTEREST
WHILE
YOU'RE
ON
sp
THE
COURSE
RIGHT
sp
YES
sp
AND
THEN
sp
YOU
HAVE
TO
START
sp
PAYING
IT
BACK
sp
AND
sp
PAYING
THE
sp
INTEREST
YOU
sp
KNOW
sp
YEAH
sp
SO
sp
THE
IDEA
IS
THAT
YOU
sp
OBVIOUSLY
sp
NEED
TO
GET
A
sp
JOB
sp
PRETTY
QUICK
{LG}
sp
{LG}
YEAH
{OOV}
ERM
sp
I
MEAN
OBVIOUSLY
sp
YO
sp
YEAH
I
MEAN
I'D
I'D
LIKE
TO
AVOID
{OOV}
REALLY
sp
GOING
INTO
sp
DEBT
LIKE
sp
THAT
IF
YOU
COULD
sp
BUT
BUT
YOU
MIGHT
USE
IT
TO
TOP
UP
YEAH
YOU
SEE
IF
YOU
CAN
GET
A
CERTAIN
AMOUNT
OF
MONEY
YES
I
MEAN
TAKE
sp
OUT
TWO
THOUSAND
OR
SOMETHING
{OOV}
TAKE
OUT
A
SMALL
ONE
{OOV}
THOUSAND
sp
POUNDS
sp
SHORT
YEAH
ERM
IT
sp
MIGHT
MAKE
A
LOT
OF
DIFFERENCE
TO
YOUR
sp
SORT
OF
ER
YES
{OOV}
sp
YEAH
ABILITY
TO
SURVIVE
THE
YEAR
IN
sp
WITHOUT
SERIOUS
DISCOMFORT
YOU
KNOW
TO
HAVE
ANOTHER
sp
YEAH
THOUSAND
QUID
sp
OR
sp
SOMETHING
sp
ERM
AND
THEN
OF
COURSE
THERE
WOULD
BE
A
I
DON'T
KNOW
WHAT
sp
THE
RATES
OF
INTEREST
ARE
OR
sp
THE
PAYBACK
sp
PERIOD
sp
BUT
sp
THE
ERM
OF
sp
COURSE
THE
LONGER
THE
sp
PAYBACK
sp
PERIOD
THE
sp
MORE
IT
sp
COSTS
YOU
IN
THE
END
sp
SO
sp
YES
{OOV}
BUT
ERM
sp
I
I
IMAGINE
THEIR
RATE
OF
INTEREST
WOULD
BE
sp
KEPT
sp
FAIRLY
sp
LOW
YEAH
sp
WELL
I
ANYWAY
I
SHALL
sp
MM
sp
DEFINITELY
LOOK
INTO
THAT
COS
IT
COULD
YOU
sp
KNOW
IT
IT'D
sp
BE
sp
A
BIT
ANNOYING
IF
I
WAS
sp
FIVE
HUNDRED
POUNDS
A
THOUSAND
POUNDS
SHORT
AT
THE
END
OF
THE
DAY
{OOV}
YEAH
SURE
SURE
YOU
COULD
JUST
DO
IT
sp
AND
OF
COURSE
I
SUPPOSE
THE
ADVANTAGE
OF
sp
THAT
sp
IS
TOO
THAT
sp
ERM
sp
IF
YOU
NEEDED
THE
MONEY
sp
TO
sp
PAY
THE
COURSE
FEES
TO
sp
GET
ON
sp
THE
MM
COURSE
sp
WELL
IF
YOU
GET
IT
FROM
THEM
YOU
JUST
GET
THE
MONEY
AND
sp
THEN
YEAH
YOU
COULD
ER
ER
YEAH
sp
ACTUALLY
sp
SORT
OF
sp
SHELL
sp
IT
OUT
ERM
YEAH
sp
JUST
sp
I
MEAN
OUT
OF
INTEREST
THE
REASON
WHY
I
DIDN'T
TAKE
sp
SHEFFIELD
sp
{OOV}
OH
YES
sp
ONE
sp
WAS
BECAUSE
THEY
sp
ER
sp
WANTED
sp
YOU
FOR
sp
FOUR
YEARS
FOR
DEFINITE
sp
AFTER
THAT
WORKING
IN
EVALUATION
SO
sp
BASICALLY
YOU'RE
COMMITTING
YOURSELF
FOR
FIVE
YEARS
OH
DID
THEY
OH
I
SEE
sp
YEAH
INCLUDING
THE
COURSE
TIME
OF
sp
COURSE
sp
YEAH
YOU
FELT
THAT
WAS
A
BIT
LONG
SO
THAT'S
WHY
I
DIDN'T
TAKE
IT
sp
WELL
IT
WASN'T
sp
WORKING
IN
THE
FIELD
THAT
I
WANT
sp
TO
WORK
IN
sp
NO
sp
NO
NO
AND
sp
I
sp
THOUGHT
YOU
KNOW
AND
I
THINK
BASICALLY
IT'D
BE
ER
sp
SORT
OF
sp
ASSESSING
THE
VALUE
sp
OF
BUILDINGS
FOR
COUNCIL
sp
TAX
AND
sp
THINGS
LIKE
THAT
WHICH
IS
{OOV}
YEAH
OH
IT
IS
YES
ENTIRELY
SO
I'M
SURE
THAT'S
WHAT
IT
IS
BASICALLY
BECAUSE
sp
IT'S
ACTUALLY
PART
OF
THE
INLAND
REVENUE
SO
I
MEAN
sp
THAT'S
WHAT
THEY'RE
ABOUT
YES
{OOV}
SO
{OOV}
THEY
THEY
SAY
YOU
KNOW
THERE'S
ALL
SORTS
OF
THINGS
YOU
DO
FARMS
AND
YOU
GET
INTO
THE
sp
COUNTRY
AND
YOU
DO
LAND
AS
WELL
BUT
I
sp
RECKON
NINETY
EIGHT
PERCENT
OF
OF
THEIR
PEOPLE
sp
ARE
sp
DOING
sp
HOUSES
sp
{LG}
SO
sp
WELL
I
SUPPOSE
YOU
SEE
MAYBE
WHAT
THEY'RE
TRYING
TO
sp
DO
sp
I
MEAN
sp
AS
FAR
AS
I
KNOW
sp
I
MEAN
sp
PREVIOUSLY
THE
INLAND
REVENUE
sp
OR
{OOV}
THE
sp
VALUATION
OFFICE
PART
OF
sp
THE
INLAND
sp
REVENUE
sp
THEY
ACTUALLY
USED
TO
RUN
sp
A
SCHEME
sp
WHERE
sp
RIGHT
WORKED
FOR
sp
THEM
sp
AND
YOU
QUALIFIED
WHILE
YOU
WERE
WORKING
FOR
sp
THEM
sp
YEAH
AND
AS
FAR
AS
I
KNOW
THAT
THAT
WAS
sp
THE
sp
ERM
sp
MOST
sp
ERM
sp
SORT
OF
FINANCIALLY
EFFECTIVE
sp
MM
sp
WAY
OF
ACTUALLY
GETTING
QUALIFIED
sp
BECAUSE
YEAH
sp
THEY
REALLY
DID
HAVE
A
PROPER
SCHEME
sp
AND
YOU
WERE
sp
PAID
A
SORT
OF
sp
REASONABLE
sp
WAGE
YEAH
sp
AND
YOU
WERE
SORT
OF
GIVEN
THE
sp
TIME
AND
sp
AND
sp
AND
ER
ER
YOU
KNOW
sp
I'M
SURE
sp
THEY
sp
PAID
FOR
sp
THE
sp
BOOKS
OR
sp
WHATEVER
sp
YOU
NEEDED
sp
YEAH
AND
AND
THEY
PAID
THE
sp
FEES
AND
SO
ON
WHEREAS
sp
ER
sp
ANYWHERE
ELSE
YOU
JUST
WORK
FOR
A
FIRM
sp
OF
ESTATE
AGENTS
AND
THEY
sp
PAY
WHETHER
THEY
sp
PAY
sp
YOU
sp
AND
sp
THE
QUALIFICATIONS
UP
TO
YOU
YOU
GO
OFF
AND
DO
IT
AND
YOU
KNOW
YOU
DON'T
REALLY
{OOV}
I
MEAN
I
THINK
I
DON'T
KNOW
MAYBE
WORKING
FOR
A
CHAR
FIRM
sp
OF
sp
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
YOU
HAVE
sp
I
sp
MEAN
IT'S
THE
SAME
SYSTEM
ISN'T
WORKING
AS
A
DOGSBODY
sp
AND
sp
THEN
MAYBE
YEAH
{OOV}
FINALLY
WORKING
UP
AND
YEAH
AND
AND
YOU
HAVE
TO
DO
IT
OVER
FOUR
YEARS
I
THINK
IF
YOU
DO
IT
THAT
WAY
{OOV}
OH
DO
YOU
sp
IF
I
THINK
YOU
I
MEAN
YOU
CAN
GO
INTO
IT
IF
YOU'VE
sp
ERM
I
sp
MEAN
THE
MINIMUM
QUALIFICATION
THEY
SAY
IS
ONLY
G
C
S
ES
YEAH
sp
YEAH
sp
OBVIOUSLY
IT
TAKES
A
LOT
LONGER
sp
TO
sp
DO
RIGHT
ERM
sp
SO
sp
PERHAPS
WITH
A
DEGREE
IT
WOULD
ONLY
TAKE
MAYBE
sp
THREE
YEARS
WELL
I
THINK
I
THINK
ER
sp
FROM
MEMORY
THEY
THE
THE
THERE
IS
A
DISPENSATION
IN
sp
THE
sp
PROFESSIONAL
sp
ERM
sp
YEAH
sp
YOU
KNOW
QUALIFICATIONS
WHICH
SAYS
THAT
GRADUATES
CAN
TAKE
IT
IN
TWO
YEARS
RIGHT
sp
CAN
SIT
THE
EXAMS
IN
TWO
YEARS
IF
YOU'RE
WORKING
WITH
A
CHARTERED
sp
SURVEYORS
sp
COMPANY
I
THINK
THAT'S
PROBABLY
TRUE
YEAH
I
DON
I
DON
YOU
sp
KNOW
ERM
AND
sp
SO
THERE
IS
A
IT
IS
REDUCED
sp
YEAH
AND
MAYBE
THE
CORRESPONDENCE
sp
SLOTS
INTO
THAT
YEAH
sp
YEAH
sp
ERM
sp
AND
SAYING
MAYBE
sp
YOU
KNOW
sp
I
sp
SHOULD
sp
LOOK
UP
sp
{OOV}
SEE
IF
I
CAN
sp
FIND
SOME
sp
{OOV}
WELL
THAT'S
ANOTHER
YOU
KNOW
sp
ROUTE
REALLY
AL
ALTHOUGH
sp
I
THINK
YOUR
ARCHITECTS
sp
YES
I
THINK
THAT'S
IF
sp
YOU
COULD
WORK
WITH
YES
AN
ARCHITECT
WHO
WAS
USING
YOU
sp
ER
TO
sp
TO
TO
sp
SURVEY
AND
DRAW
THAT
WOULD
BE
IDEAL
sp
HISTORICAL
BUILDINGS
AND
YOU
JUST
WORKED
WITH
sp
HIM
sp
AND
YOU
TOOK
THE
EXAMS
sp
ON
sp
THE
SIDE
sp
AS
IT
WERE
sp
YEAH
ERM
sp
YEAH
sp
AND
HE
PROBABLY
WOULDN'T
MIND
sp
THAT
YOU
sp
WERE
ONLY
sp
GOING
TO
sp
BE
THERE
sp
FOR
A
sp
YEAR
OR
TWO
YOU
KNOW
sp
HE'S
sp
GETTING
YEAH
A
sp
GOOD
sp
DEAL
OUT
OF
sp
IT
SO
sp
SO
I
MEAN
THERE
MIGHT
EVEN
BE
sp
YOU
sp
KNOW
MIGHT
EVEN
sp
YOU
MIGHT
EVEN
{OOV}
MIGHT
STAY
ON
HIS
sp
HE
MIGHT
BE
ABLE
TO
GET
OTHER
PEOPLE
sp
FROM
sp
WHERE
I'VE
YOU
KNOW
FROM
sp
THE
sp
DEPARTMENT
HERE
WHO
ARE
ALSO
INTERESTED
IN
sp
THAT
I'M
sp
SURE
THERE
MM
WILL
BE
sp
PEOPLE
WHO
WOULD
sp
YEAH
YOU
KNOW
JUMP
AT
THE
OPPORTUNITY
TO
GET
sp
MHM
TO
sp
DO
THAT
sp
SO
sp
YEAH
sp
YEAH
WELL
sp
YES
sp
RIGHT
RIGHT
sp
MM
I
SHALL
ERM
sp
WELL
DOES
THAT
IS
THAT
ABOUT
YES
ABOUT
IT
sp
FINE
OKAY
I
MEAN
THAT'S
YEAH
THAT'S
sp
GIVEN
YOU
A
BIT
MORE
sp
YEAH
FOOD
FOR
sp
YES
sp
THOUGHT
AND
sp
SO
ON
sp
YES
AND
AND
A
SORT
OF
A
sp
BIT
OF
A
WAY
FORWARD
sp
WELL
YOU
SOUND
PRETTY
sp
ORGANIZED
sp
{LG}
COMPARED
TO
sp
SOME
OF
sp
THEM
ERM
AND
YOU
DO
HAVE
A
DEFINITE
sp
SORT
OF
sp
TRACK
sp
TO
sp
LOOK
sp
AT
sp
YEAH
I
MEAN
A
sp
FEW
sp
MONTHS
sp
AGO
I
sp
HAD
ABSOLUTELY
NO
IDEA
AT
sp
ALL
WHAT
YEAH
I
WAS
GOING
sp
TO
DO
SO
sp
YEAH
sp
YEAH
ERM
sp
I
sp
WAS
SLOWLY
SORT
OF
sp
PULLING
A
sp
FEW
sp
IDEAS
OUT
sp
OF
sp
THIN
AIR
sp
AND
{LG}
YEAH
YEAH
sp
WELL
IT
SOUNDS
sp
SOUNDS
AS
THOUGH
IT'S
sp
POSSIBLE
sp
YOU
KNOW
YOU
MAY
HAVE
TO
sp
I
MEAN
IN
THE
END
sp
YOU
MIGHT
HAVE
sp
TO
SORT
OF
sp
COMPROMISE
sp
IT
AND
ACTUALLY
DO
THIS
VALUATION
sp
THING
sp
YEAH
YOU
KNOW
IF
sp
THAT
WAS
ONLY
WAY
TO
GET
QUALIFIED
YEAH
I
MEAN
I
THINK
I'VE
ALREADY
RESIGNED
MYSELF
TO
THE
sp
FACT
THAT
sp
I'M
GOING
TO
HAVE
TO
DO
sp
ONE
sp
MAYBE
sp
TWO
YEARS
MORE
BEFORE
I
GET
ANYTHING
sp
LIKE
sp
RIGHT
INTO
sp
THE
FIELD
sp
THAT
I
WANT
TO
sp
BE
IN
YOU
sp
KNOW
I
DON'T
THINK
IT'S
sp
POSSIBLE
TO
sp
JUST
WALK
STRAIGHT
IN
UNLESS
YOU'RE
VERY
LUCKY
sp
IT'S
NO
NO
sp
IT'S
ERM
YEAH
THE
OTHER
THING
YOU
MIGHT
sp
KEEP
AN
EYE
ON
sp
IS
sp
ERM
sp
TRY
TO
DEVELOP
sp
COMPUTING
sp
SKILLS
sp
YEAH
sp
YOU
KNOW
sp
AS
YOU
GO
ALONG
I
MEAN
YEAH
sp
IF
THERE'S
ANY
OR
OR
DOING
THAT
IN
ADDITION
sp
TO
SOMETHING
YOU
KNOW
ERM
YES
I
MEAN
sp
WE
DO
DO
sp
YOU
DO
SOME
sp
SOME
sp
AND
I
HAVE
sp
DONE
A
LITTLE
BIT
ON
sp
AUTOCAD
WHICH
IS
sp
ERM
sp
MAKING
MAPS
AND
THINGS
sp
OH
RIGHT
sp
AND
YOU
DO
BUI
sp
PLANS
OF
BUILDINGS
ON
IT
sp
AND
THAT
SORT
OF
sp
THING
sp
AS
sp
WELL
ERM
sp
SO
I
sp
MAY
sp
SORT
sp
OF
LOOK
INTO
sp
IT
A
BIT
MORE
sp
MAYBE
GET
A
BIT
sp
MORE
EXPERIENCE
YES
AND
IT'S
sp
ERM
sp
I
SUPPOSE
OF
COURSE
IN
FACT
sp
THE
sp
THAT
SORT
OF
COMPUTING
IS
sp
IS
IS
FAIRLY
ERM
sp
SPECIALIZED
ISN'T
IT
MM
REALLY
sp
IN
sp
A
sp
WAY
BUT
sp
I
THINK
EVEN
IF
YOU'RE
FAMILIAR
sp
WITH
sp
COMPUTERS
GENERALLY
AND
HAVE
GOOD
KEYBOARD
SKILLS
THAT'S
{OOV}
{OOV}
AND
ALSO
KNOWING
WHAT'S
AVAILABLE
AND
sp
YOU
KNOW
HOW
THINGS
WORK
sp
WELL
THAT'S
YEAH
{OOV}
LIKE
{OOV}
OR
sp
SOMETHING
YEAH
WHERE
YOU
TAKE
A
PICTURE
sp
OF
A
BUILDING
AND
YOU
RIGHT
sp
CAN
sp
SEE
WHICH
sp
RIGHT
ER
sp
PARTS
ARE
OLD
AND
sp
{OOV}
THINGS
sp
LIKE
sp
THAT
sp
AND
sp
YEAH
sp
ALL
SORTS
OF
THINGS
WHICH
sp
ARE
AVAILABLE
sp
WHICH
sp
IF
I
JUST
BRUSHED
UP
ON
SO
AT
LEAST
sp
IF
I
WENT
TO
AN
INTERVIEW
sp
I'D
BE
ABLE
TO
TALK
ABOUT
{OOV}
AND
YOU
COULD
TALK
ABOUT
IT
YES
I
sp
I
THINK
THAT'S
IT
YOU'VE
GOT
TO
BE
ABLE
TO
PUT
ON
A
BIT
OF
AN
ACT
YEAH
YEAH
AT
THE
INTERVIEW
sp
IF
THEY
SUBSEQUENTLY
sp
DISCOVER
THAT
ACTUALLY
YOUR
sp
KNOWLEDGE
IS
sp
PRETTY
SKETCHY
BUT
AT
LEAST
YOU'VE
GOT
SOME
WELL
sp
YEAH
YOU
PROBABLY
AT
LEAST
KNOW
ENOUGH
TO
sp
GO
OFF
AND
GET
STARTED
YEAH
sp
YEAH
AND
sp
THEN
SORT
sp
IT
OUT
YOU
sp
KNOW
sp
MM
sp
GREAT
sp
OKAY
sp
WELL
GOOD
LUCK
WITH
IT
ANYWAY
sp
{LG}
sp
OH
sp
OH
RIGHT
I'D
sp
BETTER
sp
TURN
THIS
sp
THING
sp
OFF
sp
NOW
sp
ERM
sp