word
sp
HELLO
AND
WELCOME
TO
CENTRAL
LOBBY
sp
LATER
IN
THE
PROGRAMME
WE
ASK
sp
ARE
POSITIVE
DISCRIMINATION
sp
AND
CHAUVINISM
sp
THRIVING
IN
THE
LABOUR
PARTY
sp
BUT
FIRST
sp
THERE
WAS
TIME
WHEN
READING
A
SOCCER
REPORT
IN
A
SUNDAY
NEWSPAPER
sp
MEANT
CATCHING
UP
ON
HOW
MANY
PEOPLE
WERE
STABBED
sp
AND
HOW
MANY
PITCHES
WERE
INVADED
sp
THE
FOOTBALL
AUTHORITIES
SAY
WE
CAN
NOW
CONCENTRATE
ON
WHAT
HAPPENS
sp
ON
THE
FIELD
sp
RATHER
THAN
THE
TERRACE
sp
BECAUSE
HOOLIGANISM
IS
BEING
FORCED
OUT
OF
THE
GAME
sp
THE
INTRODUCTION
OF
ALL
SEATER
STADIUMS
ALONG
WITH
THE
NEW
FOOTBALL
OFFENCES
ACT
sp
WHICH
MAKES
IT
ILLEGAL
TO
RUN
ONTO
THE
PITCH
sp
ARE
BELIEVED
sp
TO
BE
RESPONSIBLE
FOR
THE
REDUCTION
IN
VIOLENCE
sp
BUT
ARRESTS
RELATING
TO
FOOTBALL
HAVE
sp
FAILED
TO
SHOW
A
CONSISTENT
DECLINE
sp
AND
ACTUALLY
INCREASED
sp
BY
MORE
THAN
TWENTY
PERCENT
sp
IN
THE
NINETY
ONE
NINETY
TWO
SEASON
sp
AND
IT'S
CLAIMED
THE
BATTLE
AGAINST
THE
HOOLIGANS
sp
IS
STILL
sp
FAR
FROM
WON
sp
YESTERDAY
ANDREW
FOX
WENT
TO
THE
HOTLY
CONTESTED
LOCAL
DERBY
sp
BETWEEN
WOLVES
sp
AND
STOKE
sp
THIS
WAS
THE
IMAGE
OF
sp
FOOTBALL
sp
IN
THE
EIGHTIES
sp
A
GAME
sp
DOGGED
sp
BY
sp
FANS
sp
FIGHTING
ON
THE
sp
TERRACES
AND
RUNNING
sp
ONTO
THE
sp
PITCH
sp
YOU
sp
MIGHT
HAVE
THOUGHT
sp
THIS
SORT
OF
BEHAVIOUR
sp
WAS
ALL
OVER
sp
IT'S
NOT
NOW
ROTTERDAM
THIS
MONTH
sp
BROUGHT
IT
HOME
THE
HOOLIGANS
ARE
CONTINUING
TO
PLAGUE
sp
THE
GAME
sp
SOCCER
IT'S
CLAIMED
IS
STILL
A
sp
LONG
WAY
OFF
sp
FINDING
A
CURE
sp
FOR
VIOLENCE
sp
ANYONE
WHO
ER
sp
REGULARLY
ATTENDS
SOCCER
GAMES
KNOWS
FULL
WELL
THAT
sp
THE
GAME
DOES
ATTRACT
sp
A
MINORITY
OF
ER
YOUNG
MEN
WHO
FOR
WHOM
A
PUNCH
UP
ON
A
SATURDAY
AFTERNOON
IS
ALL
PART
OF
THE
GAME
sp
SO
I
FEAR
sp
ER
THAT
ANY
DECLINE
IS
sp
ER
sp
THEORETICAL
RATHER
THAN
sp
A
REAL
ONE
sp
I
STILL
THINK
WE
HAVE
sp
THIS
PROBLEM
NOT
AS
SERIOUS
AS
IT
WAS
sp
ABOUT
sp
ESTABLISHED
sp
RIVALRIES
BETWEEN
sp
PARTICULAR
GROUPS
OF
sp
FANS
{OOV}
WHAT'S
INTERESTING
sp
IS
sp
THAT
THOSE
RIVALRIES
sp
ARE
NOT
FOCUSED
AS
STRONGLY
AS
THEY
USED
AROUND
THE
VERY
BIG
CLUBS
AND
WE'RE
TALKING
LESS
HERE
ABOUT
sp
WHAT'S
GON
NA
HAPPEN
AT
MANCHESTER
UNITED
AND
CHELSEA
sp
AND
PERHAPS
MORE
ABOUT
sp
THE
DIFFICULTIES
OF
sp
WOLVES
AND
sp
AND
STOKE
sp
WOLVES
IN
FACT
HAVE
DONE
MORE
THAN
MOST
TO
PROVIDE
EVIDENCE
THAT
THE
GAME
IS
RIDDING
ITSELF
OF
VIOLENCE
sp
THE
FOOTBALL
AUTHORITIES
COME
TO
MOLYNEUX
TO
SUPPORT
THEIR
CLAIMS
sp
THAT
GROUNDS
ARE
NOW
FIT
sp
FOR
FAMILIES
sp
NOT
sp
HOMES
FOR
HOOLIGANS
sp
IN
JUST
FOUR
SEASONS
HERE
THE
NUMBER
OF
PEOPLE
ARRESTED
ON
sp
CHARGES
CONNECTED
WITH
FOOTBALL
sp
HAVE
sp
FALLEN
FROM
MORE
THAN
THREE
HUNDRED
AND
sp
FIFTY
sp
TO
sp
JUST
UNDER
ONE
sp
HUNDRED
sp
IT'S
BEEN
A
LONG
TIME
SINCE
A
LEAGUE
sp
GAME
WAS
PLAYED
AT
MOLYNEUX
sp
AGAINST
STOKE
sp
WOLVES
THEMSELVES
{OOV}
sp
SEASON
HAVE
BEEN
QUITE
WELL
BEHAVED
sp
ER
sp
BUT
THERE
ARE
A
NUMBER
OF
sp
FACTORS
sp
ER
sp
FOR
EXAMPLE
IT'S
ERM
sp
IT'S
A
LOCAL
DERBY
sp
ER
sp
VERY
STRONG
sp
RIVALRY
sp
BETWEEN
THE
TWO
TEAMS
sp
AND
SO
sp
ER
WE'RE
EXPECTING
PERHAPS
IT
MIGHT
sp
BE
sp
A
sp
LITTLE
sp
BIT
sp
LIVELY
sp
ON
THE
DAY
ITSELF
sp
WE
HAD
BRIEFINGS
sp
ER
sp
AT
THE
GROUND
UP
sp
HERE
sp
SO
EVERYBODY
sp
CLEARLY
UNDERSTANDS
WHAT'S
EXPECTED
OF
sp
THEM
AND
IN
ADDITION
TO
THAT
OF
COURSE
sp
WE
sp
COVER
THE
SAFETY
ASPECTS
sp
THAT
ARE
REQUIRED
sp
UP
AT
MOLYNEUX
sp
WHICH
IS
sp
AS
IMPORTANT
sp
AS
sp
PREPARING
sp
FOR
sp
DISORDER
sp
ITSELF
sp
IT
WOULD
BE
NICE
TO
THINK
THAT
WE
DON'T
HAVE
sp
TO
CONSIDER
THIS
WE
DIDN'T
HAVE
TO
HAVE
MEETINGS
WITH
OUR
LOCAL
sp
POLICE
sp
TO
DECIDE
WHAT
WE'RE
GOING
TO
DO
ON
THE
DAY
OF
THE
MATCH
IN
CASE
sp
THERE
IS
TROUBLE
sp
ER
sp
YEAH
BY
ALL
MEANS
ER
sp
WE'D
LOVE
sp
THAT
sp
SITUATION
sp
BUT
sp
ER
sp
I'M
AFRAID
sp
ER
sp
THAT'S
NOT
sp
POSSIBLE
AT
sp
THE
MOMENT
sp
OUR
MAIN
PRIORITY
sp
IS
TO
STOP
sp
TROUBLE
sp
INSIDE
THE
GROUND
sp
I
THINK
sp
ER
THE
SUPPORTERS
LIKE
sp
TO
BE
ER
sp
LOOKED
AFTER
BY
sp
THE
sp
SORT
OF
sp
THEIR
OWN
PEOPLE
sp
RATHER
THAN
ER
sp
THE
sp
THE
POLICE
FORCE
sp
THE
sp
CLUB
HAS
MORE
THAN
TWO
HUNDRED
STEWARDS
TO
CONTROL
THE
CROWDS
sp
AS
WELL
AS
SEARCH
THE
GROUND
BEFORE
ANYONE
GETS
THROUGH
THE
TURNSTILES
sp
THE
POLICE
HAVE
DECIDED
TO
DEPLOY
MORE
THAN
ONE
HUNDRED
OFFICERS
sp
ON
WHAT
sp
CALLED
A
TIDAL
sp
FLOW
OPERATION
sp
SLOWLY
SHIFTING
THEIR
ATTENTION
FROM
OUTSIDE
sp
TO
INSIDE
THE
STADIUM
sp
BUT
THIS
ELABORATE
OPERATION
IT'S
CLAIMED
sp
ONLY
GOES
TO
PROVE
THAT
sp
HOOLIGANISM
RATHER
THAN
DISAPPEARING
sp
IS
sp
JUST
LURKING
BENEATH
THE
SURFACE
sp
THOSE
OF
US
WHO
ATTEND
SOCCER
MATCHES
AS
I
DO
sp
ER
REGULARLY
sp
YOU'VE
GOT
sp
TO
SAY
THAT
sp
ER
IT'S
NOT
sp
GONE
AWAY
sp
IT'S
MERELY
BEEN
CONTAINED
sp
AND
CONTAINING
IT
IS
EXTREMELY
EXPENSIVE
sp
AND
I
sp
PERSONALLY
FEEL
sp
THAT
IT'S
WRONG
TO
EXPECT
THE
COMMUNITY
AT
LARGE
sp
TO
GO
ON
PAYING
sp
WEEK
AFTER
sp
WEEK
sp
MONTH
AFTER
MONTH
sp
YEAR
AFTER
YEAR
sp
ER
IN
ORDER
TO
CONTAIN
A
PROBLEM
sp
WHICH
sp
THROUGH
NO
FAULT
OF
ITS
OWN
sp
BELONGS
TO
THE
SOCCER
sp
TO
IMAGINE
THAT
THERE
IS
ER
sp
A
GREAT
UNDERCURRENT
OF
VIOLENCE
INSIDE
OUR
FOOTBALL
GROUNDS
IS
NOW
QUITE
WRONG
sp
AND
I
THINK
THE
GAME
ISN'T
GETTING
ENOUGH
CREDIT
sp
FOR
THE
WAY
IN
WHICH
IT'S
sp
TACKLED
sp
IT
OR
IT
MAY
BE
THERE
BUT
THE
POLICE
AND
THE
STEWARDS
AREN'T
ALLOWING
IT
TO
COME
OUT
BECAUSE
THEY'RE
KEEPING
A
LID
ON
IT
sp
SO
EFFICIENTLY
THESE
sp
DAYS
sp
NO
I
THINK
THAT'S
AN
UNNECESSARILY
PESSIMISTIC
VIEW
I
THINK
THAT
sp
CROWD
BEHAVIOUR
HAS
IMPROVED
sp
THE
CLUBS
ARE
CATERING
MUCH
BETTER
FOR
FAMILIES
sp
THE
sp
CLIMATE
OF
VIOLENCE
sp
THAT
USED
TO
BE
THERE
INSIDE
FOOTBALL
sp
HAS
DIMINISHED
sp
AS
THE
FIRST
FANS
TAKES
THEIR
SEATS
ANOTHER
OPERATION
IS
UNDER
WAY
TO
ENSURE
THAT
SOME
NEVER
GET
TO
SEE
THE
GAME
sp
THE
POLICE
HAVE
UNDERCOVER
INTELLIGENCE
OFFICERS
sp
WITH
THE
JOB
OF
SPOTTING
TROUBLEMAKERS
sp
IN
PARTICULAR
THOSE
WHO
HAVE
BEEN
BANNED
sp
FROM
MOLYNEUX
WE'RE
sp
ALWAYS
LOOKING
OUT
FOR
SOMEBODY
WHO
COULD
sp
CAUSE
ER
sp
PROBLEMS
IN
WOLVERHAMPTON
sp
AND
PROBLEMS
GENERALLY
sp
THE
ER
HOW
DO
YOU
KNOW
WHAT
SORT
OF
PERSON
THAT
IS
sp
COMES
WITH
EXPERIENCE
sp
LOT'S
OF
DIFFERENT
sp
FACTORS
GO
INTO
IT
ER
sp
SOMETIMES
WHAT
THEY'RE
WEARING
YOU
YOU
FIND
THAT
sp
ER
sp
THEY
TEND
TO
WEAR
sp
ER
A
LITTLE
BIT
OF
A
UNIFORM
ON
sp
OCCASIONS
BUT
sp
THEY'RE
NOT
THE
NORMAL
PEOPLE
THAT
WE
WOULD
BE
LOOKING
AT
sp
AND
NOT
THE
ONES
WITH
ER
sp
I'M
A
HOOLIGAN
sp
TATTOOED
ON
THEIR
HEADS
sp
WITH
THE
FANS
NOW
STREAMING
THROUGH
THE
TURNSTILES
sp
MANY
OF
sp
THEM
BEING
STOPPED
AND
SEARCHED
BEFORE
GOING
ANY
FURTHER
sp
THERE'S
A
FINAL
BRIEFING
FOR
THE
MAN
WHO
COULD
INFLUENCE
THEIR
MOOD
sp
REFEREE
PAUL
HARRISON
UNCLEAR
WE
WILL
ONLY
sp
COME
ON
THE
PITCH
WHEN
YOU
INVITE
sp
US
sp
AND
WE
WILL
DEAL
WITH
ANYTHING
sp
OFF
sp
THE
PITCH
sp
YOU
GIVE
A
DECISION
INSTANTANEOUSLY
sp
AN
HONEST
DECISION
sp
AND
IT'S
ONLY
AFTER
THAT
DECISION
sp
THAT
YOU
ARE
AWARE
OF
ANY
CROWD
REACTION
sp
ER
sp
NOT
AT
THE
TIME
THAT
YOU
DID
sp
IT
sp
ALWAYS
COMES
SECONDS
LATER
sp
ANY
MORE
sp
OF
THAT
{OOV}
THE
ATMOSPHERE
MAY
AS
sp
THEY
SAY
BE
ELECTRIC
sp
BUT
IT'S
NOTHING
COMPARED
sp
WITH
THE
NERVOUS
ENERGY
BEING
GENERATED
sp
IN
THIS
sp
BOX
sp
FROM
HERE
POLICE
AND
STEWARDS
ARE
DIRECTED
TO
THE
SLIGHTEST
HINT
OF
TROUBLE
BETWEEN
THE
RIVAL
FANS
sp
{OOV}
LET'S
ER
KEEP
AN
EYE
ON
THE
BOTTOM
{OOV}
NOW
SUMMAT
GONE
OVER
THE
TOP
NOW
{OOV}
GIVE
ME
THE
RED
sp
GIVE
ME
THE
BROWN
JERKIN
{OOV}
sp
IT'S
HARD
TO
SEE
sp
ER
sp
ER
sp
A
SITUATION
IN
WHICH
THE
KIND
OF
YOUNG
MEN
sp
THAT
sp
WE
ROUTINELY
PRODUCE
sp
IN
THIS
COUNTRY
sp
ER
sp
ARE
NOT
sp
GON
NA
BE
INTERESTED
sp
IN
sp
SOME
KIND
OF
sp
GROUP
sp
AGGRESSIVE
sp
VIOLENT
ACTIVITIES
IT'S
HARD
TO
SEE
sp
ER
sp
A
{OOV}
sp
CHANGE
IN
sp
THEIR
sp
INTEREST
IN
THIS
sp
KIND
OF
THING
FOOTBALL
MERELY
sp
PROVIDES
THE
OPPORTUNITY
sp
BECAUSE
A
MATCH
IS
TAKING
sp
PLACE
sp
BUT
IF
THEY
WE
sp
IF
THE
FOOTBALL
MATCHES
sp
WEREN'T
TAKING
sp
PLACE
sp
THOSE
CRIMINAL
ACTS
WOULD
BE
COMMITTED
sp
IN
ANOTHER
CONTEXT
sp
FOOTBALL
HAS
DONE
IT
sp
ITS
BEST
sp
IN
ORDER
TO
COPE
WITH
THE
PROBLEM
INSIDE
THE
GROUNDS
YOU
sp
CAN
SEE
IT'S
A
TENSE
sp
GAME
ER
WE'VE
SAID
BEFORE
sp
IT'S
A
sp
LOCAL
DERBY
sp
AND
ER
THERE
ARE
sp
ONE
OR
TWO
MINOR
sp
PROBLEMS
sp
YOU'VE
HAD
ARRESTS
ALREADY
YES
WE'VE
HAD
ONE
OR
TWO
ARRESTS
BUT
THEY'RE
sp
DISORDER
OFFENCES
AND
MINOR
DISORDER
OFFENCES
sp
WE
STILL
sp
HAVE
sp
A
sp
SMALL
HARD
sp
CORE
sp
OF
FOOTBALL
SUPPORTERS
sp
THAT
ARE
WILLING
sp
AND
sp
ABLE
sp
TO
CREATE
TROUBLE
sp
IF
THEY'RE
GIVEN
THE
sp
CHANCE
sp
BUT
I
THINK
IF
WE
sp
PERSIST
sp
IF
sp
THE
sp
CLUB
AND
OURSELVES
sp
CONTINUE
THE
sp
WAY
THAT
WE'RE
sp
GOING
sp
THOSE
NUMBERS
WILL
BECOME
LESS
AND
sp
LESS
sp
AS
THE
GAME
ENDS
THE
POLICE
PREPARE
TO
RESPOND
TO
sp
ANY
CLASH
WHILE
SUPPORTERS
MAKE
THEIR
WAY
HOME
sp
SCUFFLES
ARE
REPORTED
BUT
THEY'RE
NOT
GIVEN
THE
CHANCE
TO
DEVELOP
INTO
ANY
SERIOUS
DISTURBANCE
sp
THE
sp
STOKE
sp
COACHES
ARE
ESCORTED
AS
FAR
AS
sp
THE
MOTORWAY
sp
AND
WITHIN
AN
HOUR
OF
THE
FINAL
WHISTLE
sp
THE
POLICE
OPERATION
IS
CALLED
OFF
sp
OF
COURSE
FOR
THE
POLICE
THE
ONE
ONE
SCORE
LINE
IS
NOT
AS
IMPORTANT
AS
THESE
FIGURES
sp
EIGHTEEN
ARRESTS
sp
AND
sp
THIRTEEN
EJECTIONS
FROM
THE
GROUND
sp
THAT'S
OUT
OF
A
CROWD
OF
MORE
THAN
TWENTY
THOUSAND
sp
I
THINK
IT'S
IT'S
FAIRLY
REASONABLE
sp
PARTICULARLY
WHEN
YOU
CONSIDER
sp
WHAT
WE'VE
EXPERIENCED
OVER
THE
LAST
TWO
THREE
AND
FOUR
SEASONS
sp
WHAT
SORT
OF
OFFENCES
WERE
THERE
sp
ERM
PEOPLE
SPITTING
sp
ER
sp
OBSCENITIES
sp
OBSCENE
GESTURES
sp
ER
WE'VE
HAD
sp
TWO
ASSAULTS
sp
ER
BUT
sp
THEY
HAVE
BEEN
RELATIVELY
MINOR
ASSAULTS
AS
FAR
AS
WE'RE
CONCERNED
sp
THERE
IS
sp
A
VIOLENT
UNDERCURRENT
IN
OUR
SOCIETY
WHICH
HAS
GOT
NOTHING
AT
ALL
TO
DO
WITH
FOOTBALL
sp
AND
WHERE
FOOTBALL
MUSTN'T
BE
COMPLACENT
sp
IS
TO
PROVIDE
THE
OPPORTUNITIES
sp
AT
ITS
MATCHES
sp
TO
ALLOW
THAT
UNDERCURRENT
OF
VIOLENCE
TO
MANIFEST
ITSELF
sp
I
THINK
THE
GAME
I
THINK
THE
GAME
HAS
DONE
WELL
IN
TACKLING
THAT
PROBLEM
sp
BUT
I
DON'T
THINK
WE
AS
A
SOCIETY
HAVE
DONE
VERY
WELL
IN
TACKLING
IT
sp
IN
THE
COUNTRY
AT
LARGE
sp
FOOTBALL
CLUBS
FOOTBALL
SUPPORTERS
sp
ER
AND
PARLIAMENTS
HAVE
GOT
sp
TO
TALK
sp
BETWEEN
THEMSELVES
TO
TRY
AND
COME
UP
WITH
A
SOLUTION
sp
AT
THE
MOMENT
ALL
WE'RE
DOING
IS
KEEPING
THE
LID
sp
ON
A
sp
STILL
A
PRETTY
SERIOUS
PROBLEM
sp
WELL
sp
LAST
sp
NIGHT
ONLY
THREE
DAYS
sp
AFTER
THE
SHADOW
CABINET
ELECTIONS
sp
ONE
OF
THE
WOMEN
MPS
WHO
WAS
sp
THROWN
OFF
JOHN
SMITH'S
CORE
TEAM
sp
ACCUSED
HER
MALE
PARLIAMENTARY
COLLEAGUES
sp
OF
A
CYNICAL
PLOT
sp
AND
A
STITCH
UP
sp
ANN
CLWYD
WHO
WAS
NOT
RE
ELECTED
TO
HER
sp
HERITAGE
POST
sp
USED
HER
ADDRESS
TO
THE
WELSH
sp
LABOUR
WOMEN'S
CONFERENCE
sp
TO
ATTACK
sp
MACHO
M
PS
sp
AFTER
THE
CHANGE
IN
PARTY
RULES
sp
FORCING
ALL
LABOUR
MPS
TO
VOTE
FOR
FOUR
WOMEN
IN
THE
SHADOW
CABINET
ELECTIONS
sp
HAS
LABOUR
'S
POLICY
sp
HORRIBLY
BACKFIRED
sp
I'M
JOINED
sp
BY
LABOUR
'S
MEL
REED
M
E
P
FOR
LEICESTER
sp
AND
THE
LABOUR
MP
sp
FOR
{OOV}
JOE
ASHTON
sp
MEL
REED
FIRST
OF
ALL
WHAT
sp
WENT
WRONG
IS
POSITIVE
DISCRIMINATION
THE
WAY
FORWARD
sp
I
sp
THINK
IT
STILL
IS
THE
WAY
FORWARD
sp
AND
I
DON'T
THINK
IT
WAS
SO
MUCH
sp
THAT
THINGS
WENT
WRONG
sp
AS
THAT
THEY
DIDN'T
GO
sp
AS
WELL
AS
WE
HAD
HOPED
sp
FOR
sp
THE
WOMEN
ELECTIONS
TO
THE
SHADOW
sp
CABINET
IT
MAY
BE
THAT
IT'S
TIME
TO
sp
LOOK
AGAIN
EVEN
THOUGH
THIS
NEW
RULE
HAS
sp
BEEN
ENFORCED
FOR
ONLY
THESE
ELECTIONS
sp
AT
sp
THIS
PARTICULAR
METHOD
OF
sp
POSITIVE
sp
DISCRIMINATION
sp
JOE
ASHTON
WHO
DID
YOU
VOTE
FOR
sp
AND
AND
sp
IS
IT
IS
IT
A
CASE
OF
MISOGYNY
BASICALLY
RIFE
WITHIN
THE
LABOUR
PARTY
NO
NO
IT
ISN'T
THERE
ARE
SOME
BRILLIANT
LABOUR
WOMEN
IN
sp
PARLIAMENT
I
MEAN
THE
SPEAKER
BETTY
BOOTHROYD
IS
MAGNIFICENT
sp
MEL
REED
IS
A
SUPERB
sp
M
E
sp
P
sp
IT'S
NOTHING
TO
DO
sp
WITH
WITH
THAT
SORT
OF
BATTLE
IT
IS
THE
FACT
THAT
sp
IF
YOU
CHANGE
THE
GOALPOSTS
YOU'D
BETTER
MAKE
SURE
THE
BALL
STILL
GOES
BETWEEN
'EM
sp
AND
THAT'S
WHAT
THE
WOMEN
DID
sp
AND
WHAT
THEY
sp
DIDN'T
UNDERSTAND
WAS
THE
sp
BASIC
sp
EXPERIENCE
OF
ANY
TRADE
UNION
BRANCH
sp
WHICH
SAYS
IF
YOU
WAN
NA
GET
SIX
OR
EIGHT
sp
PEOPLE
ELECTED
sp
YOU
DON'T
sp
PUT
FOURTEEN
UP
sp
THE
THIRTY
SEVEN
STRONG
WOMEN'S
{OOV}
COULD
sp
NOT
sp
AGREE
sp
AMONG
THEMSELVES
ON
WHAT'S
KNOWN
sp
AS
A
sp
{OOV}
sp
AND
IF
THEY
HAD
STUCK
sp
SIX
OR
EIGHT
sp
PE
sp
EIGHT
WOMEN
MPS
UP
sp
THEY'D
HAVE
ALL
BEEN
ELECTED
sp
BUT
FOURTEEN
OF
'EM
sp
WERE
SAYING
NO
ME
ME
ME
AND
IT
ER
SPREAD
THE
VOTE
TOO
THIN
sp
JOE
ASHTON
ARE
YOU
SAYING
THAT
REALLY
THERE
WAS
NO
PLOT
AS
SUCH
sp
THAT
sp
THERE
WASN'T
A
SORT
sp
OF
{OOV}
sp
CAMPAIGN
sp
THAT
sp
ER
sp
SOME
OF
THE
WOMEN
MPS
HAVE
sp
CLAIMED
THERE
WAS
THERE
WASN'T
A
PLOT
sp
THERE
WAS
SOME
DISGRUNTLEMENT
BECAUSE
WHAT
HAPPENED
THEY
TR
THEY
CHANGED
THE
RULES
NOW
THE
FIRST
TIME
THEY
TRIED
TO
CHANGE
THEM
sp
IN
MAY
THEY
LOST
THE
VOTE
THE
WOMEN
sp
TO
INCREASE
IT
FROM
THREE
TO
FOUR
sp
USUALLY
IN
THE
LABOUR
PARTY
ANY
OTHER
ORGANIZATION
YOU'RE
GON
NA
HAVE
TO
WAIT
A
YEAR
sp
BUT
THE
WOMEN
DIDN'T
sp
THEY
WENT
ROUND
THE
BACK
DOOR
AND
GOT
TO
JOHN
SMITH
AND
THEY
GOT
THE
CHIEF
WHIP
AND
GOT
THE
CHAIRMAN
OF
THE
PARTY
sp
AND
HAD
A
RERUN
OF
THE
VOTE
sp
TWO
WEEKS
LATER
sp
THIS
TIME
THEY
WON
sp
AND
ER
THE
MEN
THEN
GOT
RESENTFUL
THEY
SAID
THIS
IS
NOT
ON
sp
YOU
KNOW
THEY
THEY
SHOULD
THEY
SHOULD
ABIDE
BY
THE
RULES
sp
AND
WAIT
A
YEAR
sp
AND
THAT'S
WHEN
THE
SORT
OF
sp
BACKLASH
BUILT
UP
sp
MEL
REED
DO
YOU
THINK
YOU
COULD
HAVE
PREDICTED
THIS
SORT
OF
BACKLASH
THAT
PERHAPS
THINGS
WERE
MOVING
TOO
QUICKLY
sp
I
DON'T
THINK
SO
sp
AND
I
sp
I
FIND
IT
DIFFICULT
TO
BELIEVE
AND
DISAPPOINTING
TO
BELIEVE
sp
THAT
AS
MANY
MAN
ARE
sp
{OOV}
sp
WOULD
DELIBERATELY
SPOIL
THEIR
VOTE
sp
THIS
IS
A
VERY
SERIOUS
MATTER
sp
THE
ELECTION
TO
LABOUR
'S
SHADOW
CABINET
sp
AND
I
DO
NOT
WANT
sp
TO
BELIEVE
sp
THAT
MEN
WOULD
DELIBERATELY
sp
SPOIL
THEIR
VOTE
sp
BUT
I
THINK
IT'S
sp
A
LITTLE
BIT
RICH
IF
I
MAY
SAY
SO
JOE
TO
BLAME
sp
THE
WOMEN
FOR
sp
THIS
BECAUSE
THE
PARLIAMENTARY
LABOUR
PARTY
sp
DID
VOTE
FOR
THIS
NEW
RULE
sp
AND
THE
FACT
THAT
A
NUMBER
OF
sp
WOMEN
VERY
sp
ABLE
WOMEN
sp
PUT
THEMSELVES
FORWARD
sp
I
DON'T
THINK
IT'S
RIGHT
TO
SAY
sp
IT
IS
THE
WOMEN'S
FAULT
A
LARGE
NUMBER
OF
MEN
sp
PUT
THEIR
NAMES
FORWARD
IN
A
sp
A
PERFECTLY
PROPER
sp
WAY
sp
WHAT
HAPPENED
THOUGH
sp
DID
IN
IN
sp
ESSENTIALLY
BASICALLY
DILUTE
THE
VOTE
AND
THE
SPOILING
TACTICS
sp
WERE
ALLOWED
TO
HAPPEN
sp
THAT
SURELY
WAS
WOMEN'S
FAULT
DO
YOU
THINK
THE
DANGER
IN
POSITIVE
DISCRIMINATION
sp
IS
THAT
sp
ER
sp
IT'S
IMPLYING
THAT
WOMEN
CAN'T
COMPETE
ON
EQUAL
TERMS
WITH
THE
MEN
IN
THE
FIRST
PLACE
NO
I
DON'T
THINK
THAT
IS
THE
PROBLEM
I
THINK
WE
HAVE
TO
FACE
UP
TO
THE
FACT
IN
THE
LABOUR
PARTY
sp
THAT
QUOTAS
THAT
POSITIVE
DISCRIMINATION
sp
ARE
ESSENTIALLY
CLUMSY
sp
THEY
CAN
BACKFIRE
sp
THEY
CAN
LEAD
TO
SOME
INJUSTICES
sp
BUT
WHAT
sp
THEY
ARE
sp
IS
sp
A
SIGNAL
sp
THAT
sp
OTHER
METHODS
OF
GETTING
sp
A
BETTER
REPRESENTATION
OF
WOMEN
sp
IN
PARLIAMENT
sp
IN
LOCAL
COUNCILS
sp
HAS
REALLY
NOT
WORKED
sp
THIS
IS
THE
REAL
DILEMMA
YOU
SEE
I
THINK
sp
EITHER
WE
AS
A
LABOUR
PARTY
sp
ARE
SERIOUS
ABOUT
HAVING
sp
MORE
WOMEN
IN
THE
HOUSE
OF
COMMONS
sp
AND
WE
DO
VERY
BADLY
COMPARED
WITH
sp
MANY
OF
OUR
EUROPEAN
NEIGHBOURS
sp
WE
EITHER
SAY
WE
ARE
SERIOUS
sp
AND
LOOK
FOR
WAYS
TO
ACHIEVE
THAT
sp
OR
WE
SAY
WE'VE
sp
FAILED
sp
BUT
WE
sp
ALL
WE
CAN
DO
IS
REFLECT
sp
THE
POSITION
OF
sp
WOMEN
IN
SOCIETY
AND
I
DO
NOT
THINK
THAT
sp
WHAT'S
WE'RE
ABOUT
AND
sp
I
DO
NOT
THINK
IT'S
WHAT
THE
PARLIAMENTARY
LABOUR
PARTY
{OOV}
NO
IT
WASN'T
A
BACKLASH
AGAINST
WOMEN
sp
IT
WAS
A
BACKLASH
AGAINST
sp
QUOTAS
sp
WHERE
YOU
{OOV}
HAVE
sp
GOT
sp
TO
VOTE
sp
FOR
A
CERTAIN
NUMBER
sp
WE
DON'T
HAVE
A
SECTION
FOR
THE
DISABLED
sp
BUT
IT
HASN'T
STOPPED
sp
DAVID
BLUNKETT
sp
AND
JACK
ASHLEY
sp
JOE
JUST
DOING
TREMENDOUSLY
sp
WELL
JUST
BRIEFLY
HOW
DO
YOU
ENCOURAGE
MORE
WOMEN
INTO
THE
LABOUR
PARTY
VERY
BRIEFLY
sp
WHEN
THEY
CONSTITUTE
FIFTY
TWO
PERCENT
OF
THE
POPULATION
BUT
THEY'RE
NOT
FIFTY
TWO
PERCENT
OF
THE
CANDIDATES
AND
WHAT
WE'VE
sp
GOT
IN
sp
STANDING
FOR
A
GENERAL
ELECTION
IS
ABOUT
sp
TWO
AND
A
HALF
THOUSAND
MEN
AND
ABOUT
FIVE
HUNDRED
WOMEN
sp
THERE
IS
NO
WAY
YOU'RE
GON
NA
GET
EQUALITY
sp
JUST
WITH
THAT
VOLUME
JUST
VERY
BRIEFLY
MEL
I
SUSPECT
sp
PERHAPS
A
LOT
OF
WOMEN
WOULD
STAND
IF
CONDITIONS
IN
PARLIAMENT
WERE
MORE
sp
I'M
SURE
THAT
THEY
WOULD
sp
DO
sp
IN
THE
EUROPEAN
PARLIAMENT
FOR
EXAMPLE
sp
WE
DO
HAVE
A
NURSERY
WE
HAVE
sp
CHILD
CARE
FACILITIES
sp
FOR
SEVENTY
CHILDREN
WHICH
YOU
DON'T
HAVE
IN
THE
HOUSE
OF
COMMONS
PERHAPS
I'M
AFRAID
THERE
WE
MUST
LEAVE
IT
BUT
PERHAPS
THAT
IS
THE
WAY
FORWARD
THANK
YOU
BOTH
sp
VERY
MUCH
INDEED
sp
FOR
sp
JOINING
US
sp
WELL
sp
HERE
IT
IS
PART
sp
THREE
OF
sp
THOSE
MEMOIRS
sp
IN
TODAY'S
SERIALIZATION
IN
THE
SUNDAY
TIMES
LADY
THATCHER
CONCENTRATES
sp
ON
THE
FALKLANDS
CONFLICT
sp
SHE
CRITICIZES
THE
THEN
FOREIGN
SECRETARY
FRANCES
NOW
LORD
PYM
FOR
sp
THE
PART
HE
PLAYED
sp
HE
WOULD
HAVE
AGREED
TO
A
NEGOTIATED
SETTLEMENT
sp
SHE
WOULD
HAVE
REGARDED
THAT
AS
NOTHING
sp
LESS
sp
THAN
SURRENDER
sp
LADY
THATCHER'S
BEEN
ON
THE
ROAD
sp
PROMOTING
HER
BOOK
sp
AND
A
COUPLE
OF
NIGHTS
AGO
sp
SHE
WAS
IN
BIRMINGHAM
sp
AT
A
DINNER
sp
HOSTED
BY
THE
BIRMINGHAM
POST
sp
THERE
IS
OF
COURSE
sp
NOTHING
NEW
sp
IN
THE
BATTLE
BY
MEMOIR
sp
YOU
HAVE
TO
GO
BACK
A
VERY
LONG
WAY
INDEED
sp
TO
A
MORE
DECOROUS
AGE
sp
WHEN
POLITICIANS
DIDN'T
USE
THE
MEMOIR
sp
AS
A
WEAPON
sp
FOR
REOPENING
OLD
WOUNDS
sp
THERE
WERE
NINETEENTH
CENTURY
MEMOIRS
AND
OCCASIONALLY
THEY
WERE
QUITE
REVEALING
BUT
IT'S
LLOYD
GEORGE'S
MEMOIRS
OF
THE
GREAT
WAR
THE
FIRST
WORLD
WAR
THAT
sp
SET
IN
MANY
WAYS
sp
THE
MODERN
sp
PATTERN
sp
FOR
OLD
BATTLES
TO
BE
RE
FOUGHT
sp
AND
INDEED
AS
LADY
BRACKNELL
WOULD
SAY
sp
FOR
sp
READY
MONEY
sp
THAT'S
NOT
TO
sp
SAY
HOWEVER
sp
THAT
OCCASIONALLY
YOU
DON'T
GET
sp
{OOV}
THROWBACKS
sp
TO
A
GENTLER
sp
MORE
COURTEOUS
AGE
FOR
EXAMPLE
ALEC
HUME
'S
MEMOIRS
sp
WERE
sp
{OOV}
DESCRIBED
THEM
AS
THIS
LITTLE
BOOK
ABOUT
sp
FISHING
sp
A
BEAUTIFUL
EVOCATION
OF
A
COUNTRYMAN
IN
DOWNING
STREET
sp
WHO
WOULD
ALWAYS
RATHER
HAVE
BEEN
sp
WITH
HIS
sp
FLY
ON
THE
RIVER
sp
TWEED
ON
THE
SCOTTISH
sp
BORDERS
sp
SO
IT'S
NOT
A
PROGRESSION
sp
ALL
IN
ONE
WAY
sp
BUT
I
HAVE
TO
SAY
THAT
EVEN
BY
THE
STANDARDS
OF
THE
LLOYD
GEORGE
ERA
THE
BATTLE
BY
MEMOIR
sp
WHICH
WE
NOW
sp
SEE
FOR
CONSIDERABLE
SUMS
OF
MONEY
sp
HAS
BECOME
sp
MORE
THAN
A
COTTAGE
INDUSTRY
sp
IT'S
A
PRODUCTION
LINE
sp
INDUSTRY
sp
THAT
INDUSTRY
sp
PROBABLY
STARTED
IN
NINETEEN
SEVENTY
FIVE
sp
WITH
THE
DIARIES
OF
LABOUR
'S
RICHARD
CROSSMAN
sp
AFTER
HIS
DEATH
sp
HIS
EXECUTORS
DECIDED
TO
sp
BREACH
THE
CONVENTION
sp
OF
NOT
sp
DISCLOSING
sp
PRIVATE
CONVERSATIONS
sp
WITH
OTHER
MINISTERS
sp
AND
OFFICIALS
sp
THE
ECOLOGY
DID
sp
CHANGE
sp
IN
MID
SEVENTY
FIVE
sp
BUT
I
SOMETIMES
THINK
IT'S
EARLIER
THAN
THAT
IT'S
NOW
FORGOTTEN
THAT
WHEN
HUGH
DALTON
BEGAN
TO
PUBLISH
HIS
MEMOIRS
sp
WITH
LARGE
sp
CHUNKS
OF
HIS
sp
DIARY
IN
sp
IN
THE
LATE
FIFTIES
AND
EARLY
SIXTIES
sp
PARTICULARLY
sp
THE
THE
HIGH
TIDE
sp
VOLUME
sp
THAT
sp
CAME
OUT
ABOUT
sp
THE
LABOUR
GOVERNMENT
OF
sp
FORTY
FIVE
TO
FIFTY
ONE
sp
WHICH
WAS
VERY
VENOMOUS
sp
HE
WAS
A
DEEPLY
DEEPLY
sp
UNPLEASANT
sp
MAN
sp
HUGH
DALTON
sp
WHAT
WOULD
YOU
SAY
HAVE
BEEN
THE
SUCCESSES
AND
THE
FLOPS
OF
sp
MORE
sp
RECENT
TIMES
sp
THE
ONES
THAT
HAVE
DONE
WELL
sp
IN
PUBLISHING
TERMS
sp
QUITE
RIGHTLY
I
sp
THINK
ARE
THOSE
WHO
sp
HAVE
{OOV}
BEEN
PLAINLY
WRITTEN
BY
THE
PERSON
CONCERNED
ABOVE
ALL
DENNIS
HEALEY
sp
AND
ALSO
ROY
JENKINS
sp
NOW
I
HAVE
TO
BE
CAREFUL
WHAT
I
SAY
ABOUT
sp
LADY
THATCHER'S
BECAUSE
OF
THE
LAWS
OF
LIBEL
AND
ALSO
I
DON'T
KNOW
sp
WHO'S
WRITTEN
WHICH
sp
PIECES
BUT
IT'S
KNOWN
SHE'S
sp
HAD
sp
HELP
YOU
SEE
sp
AND
WHEN
I
SEE
A
WONDERFUL
sp
PHRASE
LIKE
WILLIAM
WALDEGRAVE
IS
LIKE
sp
{OOV}
sp
WITHOUT
sp
THE
sp
JOKES
sp
I
sp
THINK
NOW
I
WONDER
IF
SHE
THOUGHT
OR
SAID
THAT
sp
IS
THAT
QUITE
HER
STYLE
OF
HUMOUR
sp
COULD
IT
NOT
BE
ONE
OF
THE
sp
TWO
OR
THREE
PEOPLE
WHO'VE
HELPED
HER
sp
WITH
THE
WRITINGS
sp
JUST
TOUCH
sp
THAT
BIT
UP
I
MAY
BE
ENTIRELY
WRONG
sp
BUT
I'M
GOING
TO
BE
READING
THOSE
WHEN
I'M
ALLOWED
TO
PUT
sp
MY
HANDS
ON
A
COPY
sp
FINALLY
sp
{OOV}
sp
AND
I
CONSTANTLY
WONDER
NOW
sp
IS
THAT
ROBIN
HARRIS
SPEAKING
sp
OR
IS
THAT
MRS
THATCHER
sp
IS
THAT
JOHN
O'SULLIVAN
WITH
ONE
OF
HIS
RIPE
LITTLE
ONE
LINERS
OR
IS
THAT
sp
MRS
sp
THATCHER
sp
OR
IS
THIS
PERHAPS
MY
OLD
FRIEND
BERNARD
INGHAM
sp
COMING
IN
ONE
MORE
TIME
sp
TO
HELP
THE
LADY
OF
HIS
ADORATION
sp
BUT
IF
I
CAN
JUST
QUOTE
A
COUPLE
OF
CASES
YOU
WOULD'VE
THOUGHT
WOULDN'T
sp
YOU
THAT
CECIL
PARKINSON'S
MEMOIRS
sp
WOULD'VE
sp
SOLD
VERY
WELL
IN
FACT
sp
THEY
WERE
A
COMPLETE
sp
FLOP
sp
AGAIN
I
DON'T
WANT
TO
BE
UNCHARITABLE
BUT
CECIL
PARKINSON
I
SUSPECT
IN
THE
PUBLIC
VIEW
IS
A
MAN
sp
SOMEWHAT
BUT
NOT
ENTIRELY
{OOV}
sp
WITHOUT
sp
TRACE
sp
HE
JUST
LEFT
A
LITTLE
TRACE
OF
BRYLCREEM
sp
IN
ANY
GOVERNMENT
SEAT
HE
sp
OCCUPIED
sp
NOW
BY
sp
AND
sp
LARGE
sp
YOU
DON'T
WANT
BRYLCREEM
BOYS
MEMOIRS
DO
YOU
sp
WHAT
PEOPLE
sp
LIKE
sp
IS
A
BRILLIANT
BRUISER
LIKE
sp
DENNIS
HEALEY
sp
A
sp
CHARACTER
WITH
A
CAPITAL
C
sp
PARKINSON
IS
MUCH
TOO
sp
VARIETY
sp
{OOV}
I
THINK
sp
TO
APPEAR
MORE
sp
WIDELY
sp
WHY
DO
YOU
THINK
THEY
DO
IT
sp
WELL
sp
THE
TOM
TIDDLERS
OF
BRITISH
POLITICAL
LIFE
I
SUPPOSE
WRITE
THEIR
MEMOIRS
sp
FOR
sp
A
COUPLE
OF
REASONS
BECAUSE
THEY
CAN'T
EVER
ADMIT
TO
sp
THEMSELVES
THEY
ARE
sp
TOM
sp
TIDDLERS
sp
CATHARSIS
sp
THERE'S
NOTHING
LIKE
REFLECTING
IN
TRANQUILLITY
TO
HELP
HEAL
THOSE
WOUNDS
sp
AND
MOST
OF
THEM
WERE
sp
PRETTY
BRUISED
BY
THE
NINETEEN
EIGHTIES
EXPERIENCES
OF
THE
RECENT
sp
CROP
sp
AND
SOME
OF
THEM
THINK
THEY'RE
GON
NA
MAKE
MONEY
sp
EVEN
THOSE
THAT
sp
TEND
NOT
TO
DO
VERY
WELL
ATTRACT
SOME
KIND
sp
OF
AN
ADVANCE
AND
ALSO
sp
GIVEN
THE
NATURE
OF
THE
KIND
OF
PEOPLE
WHO
WANT
TO
WIELD
AUTHORITY
OVER
OTHERS
THEY
CAN'T
sp
BEAR
BEING
OUT
OF
THE
LIMELIGHT
IT
GIVES
THEM
ONE
LAST
sp
THROW
sp
PARTICULARLY
IF
THEY
GET
SERIALIZED
IN
THE
SUNDAY
NEWSPAPER
sp
ONE
LAST
sp
TIME
THE
NAME
IS
GOING
TO
BE
TALKED
ABOUT
sp
IN
THE
CIRCLES
sp
THAT
sp
BOTHER
ABOUT
sp
THESE
sp
THINGS
sp
AND
IT'S
ALL
TO
DO
WITH
MRS
THATCHER
sp
WHO'S
sp
PRONE
TO
SAY
ABOUT
HER
ENEMIES
sp
VANITY
VANITY
ALL
IS
VANITY
sp
PETER
HENNESSEY
TALKING
TO
OUR
REPORTER
PHILIP
TIBENHAM
sp
WITH
JUST
TWO
WORDS
sp
PRISON
WORKS
HOME
SECRETARY
MICHAEL
HOWARD
sp
HAS
UPSET
SOME
MEMBERS
OF
THE
JUDICIARY
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NEXT
WEEK
WE
TRY
TO
FIND
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OUT
WHY
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TILL
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THEN
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GOODBYE
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