BNC Text G5J

Market research interview. Sample containing about 11384 words speech recorded in business context

5 speakers recorded by respondent number C221

PS2B2	Ag4	f	(No name, age 55, market researcher) unspecified
PS2B3	Ag5	m	(Bill, age 65, doctor) unspecified
PS2B4	Ag4	f	(No name, age 59, housewife) unspecified
G5JPSUNK (respondent W0000)	X	u	(Unknown speaker, age unknown) other
G5JPSUGP (respondent W000M)	X	u	(Group of unknown speakers, age unknown) other

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Tape 098701 recorded on 1993-07-05. LocationStrathclyde: Glasgow ( Private house ) Activity: Market research interview Interview and

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(PS2B2)	[1] [...] Before or after? [2] Is it after cos I'll a [...]
(PS2B4)	[3] Er it doesn't matter it doesn't matter. [4] No it doesn't matter [...] .
(PS2B2)	[5] I'm I'm actually I have to go back to a house. [6] Wee boys are with the scouts so I'll visit them in the week. [7] Erm Oh no no .
Bill (PS2B3)	[8] [...] through this quite quick?
(PS2B2)	[9] No not too quickly. [10] Erm I wasn't [...] to see the
(PS2B4)	[11] Coronation Street finishes at half past twenty five past. [12] So it's just about the right time [...]
(PS2B2)	[13] Aha. [14] Right. [15] How's the House sitting alright eh? [16] Oh better let her get away to Coronation Street. [17] Okay. [18] Now do you ever buy stamps though to give to other people?
Bill (PS2B3)	[19] To give to other people? [20] No.
(PS2B2)	[21] Mhm. [22] No. [23] So you're not a giver.
Bill (PS2B3)	[24] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[25] And I think it's safe to say you're working.
Bill (PS2B3)	[26] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[27] Full time.
Bill (PS2B3)	[28] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[29] And you are a doctor. [30] And ... let me see if it's in this list. [31] Mm
Bill (PS2B3)	[32] A what?
(PS2B2)	[33] Doctor. [34] Yeah. [35] ... Er [reading] Do you have a stamp collection now or have you ever collected stamps? [] [36] Yes you have. [37] Er [reading] How old were you when you started collecting stamps? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[38] Oh well eight
(PS2B2)	[39] Down memory lane.
Bill (PS2B3)	[40] Eight.
(PS2B2)	[41] Eight. [42] ... [reading] Why did you first start collecting stamps? [] [43] What made you begin your collection?
Bill (PS2B3)	[44] Because I liked the look of them. [45] That's it.
(PS2B2)	[46] Right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[47] I liked the look of them. ... [...]
(PS2B2)	[48] Any other reason for
Bill (PS2B3)	[49] [...] No?
(PS2B2)	[50] No.
Bill (PS2B3)	[51] No.
(PS2B2)	[52] Right. [53] Could you have a look at this little card, the first of many I have to say. [54] Still thinking of when you first started collecting, which of these types of stamps and other items were in your stamp collection?
Bill (PS2B3)	[55] Er eight.
(PS2B2)	[56] Or are in your stamp collection.
Bill (PS2B3)	[57] Eight.
(PS2B2)	[58] Number eight, aha. [59] Would you like to read it out ?
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[60] Er would you like to read out what
Bill (PS2B3)	[61] [...] number ten.
(PS2B2)	[62] number eight says?
Bill (PS2B3)	[63] The very first time was
(PS2B2)	[64] Aha.
Bill (PS2B3)	[65] A column of commonwealth stamps.
(PS2B2)	[66] Right. [67] Which is number eight fine. [68] Any others?
Bill (PS2B3)	[69] My first collection [...]
(PS2B2)	[70] Mhm. [71] First started collecting which of these types of stamps were you interested in [...] . [72] Now they don't tell me what to say? [73] Er do these stamps and other items form part of a current collection that you still have today?
Bill (PS2B3)	[74] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[75] Right. [76] ... [reading] Since you first started collecting stamps, has there been any definite period when you lost interest in stamp collecting
Bill (PS2B3)	[77] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[78] That then came back to you [...] []
Bill (PS2B3)	[79] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[80] [reading] Why did you decide to take up stamp collecting again? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[81] For relaxation.
(PS2B2)	[82] Mhm. [83] ... Any other reasons that brought you back to your hobby?
Bill (PS2B3)	[84] No. [85] No.
(PS2B2)	[86] Er can I check again whether you have a collection now which you have bought stamps for or items for during the past twelve months?
Bill (PS2B3)	[87] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[88] [reading] What are your main reasons for keeping a stamp collection these days? [] [89] A main reason.
Bill (PS2B3)	[90] Main reason.
(PS2B2)	[91] Mhm.
Bill (PS2B3)	[92] Er for recreation, relaxation.
(PS2B2)	[93] [...] . ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[94] Of course there's no wonder. [laugh] ...
(PS2B2)	[95] [reading] Are there any other reasons occurs to you which explain why you keep them? [] [96] ... I mean there doesn't have top be and
Bill (PS2B3)	[97] [...] the other would be, something to do.
(PS2B2)	[98] Something to do .
Bill (PS2B3)	[99] A hobby.
(PS2B2)	[100] Right. [101] [reading] Do you think your collection will increase in value by more than the rate of inflation in the foreseeable future? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[102] Er
(PS2B2)	[103] Good question.
Bill (PS2B3)	[104] Mm. [105] ... Oh gee whiz. [106] Er ... yeah, I think it probably will.
(PS2B2)	[107] Okay. [108] [reading] Different collectors collect stamps for different reason reasons, do you do any of these statements give you a good description of why ... why you collect? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[109] Two.
(PS2B2)	[110] Aha.
Bill (PS2B3)	[111] [reading] I occasionally buy an item to add to my own stamp collection but I'm not committed to keeping it complete. []
(PS2B2)	[112] Do you think you're going to be heard?
Bill (PS2B3)	[113] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[114] Oh is it quite sensitive is it?
Bill (PS2B3)	[115] Very.
(PS2B2)	[116] Right [...] .
Bill (PS2B3)	[117] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[118] You see, sometimes you turn these over, it puts ideas into your head, you see you're not supposed to see the next card [...] .
Bill (PS2B3)	[119] Oh I see. [120] Aye right. [121] Right.
(PS2B2)	[122] The idea of that er [...] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[123] Adult photographs. [124] [reading] Please now think about the sort of stamps and other philatelic products you collect yourself. [125] This photo shows examples of ten sorts of British and foreign stamps and related products. [126] Which do you collect these days? [] [127] ... Oh this is [...] to do.
Bill (PS2B3)	[128] It is.
(PS2B2)	[129] Right. [130] Oh no [laugh] this thing here. [131] [...] . Right. [132] What do you collect these days?
Bill (PS2B3)	[133] One.
(PS2B2)	[134] Right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[135] Number one, British definitives.
(PS2B2)	[136] Right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[137] And number six, foreign definitives.
(PS2B2)	[138] Mhm.
Bill (PS2B3)	[139] That's it.
(PS2B2)	[140] right. [141] ... [reading] And how committed are you to British definitive stamps? [142] Do you collect a wide range of them, some of them, or just a few of them? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[143] Er I'd say a wide range.
(PS2B2)	[144] Okay. [145] And [reading] What types of British definitive stamps do you collect these days? [146] Er the current issues in mint condition, current issues in used condition or back issues? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[147] Current used. ...
(PS2B2)	[148] And from the cards, Er can you tell me roughly how much you have spent on British definitives in the last year if anything? [149] And it's which of the expenditure bands would you be in? [150] Not the amount, just the number along side there. ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[151] Number four.
(PS2B2)	[152] [...] zero, four. [153] Right. [154] Now fo form definitive stamps. [155] How committed are you to form definitives? [156] Do you collect a wide range of them, some of them or just a few of them?
Bill (PS2B3)	[157] Few.
(PS2B2)	[158] And the types of i current issues in mint condition, current issues in used condition
Bill (PS2B3)	[159] [...] Current used.
(PS2B2)	[160] Right and again, [reading] How much would you spend on them in a year? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[161] Probably five.
(PS2B2)	[162] Five.
Bill (PS2B3)	[163] Right, [reading] Some people collect stamps from a particular part of the sheet from which the stamps are taken. [164] Do you collect stamps in this way? []
(PS2B2)	[165] Yes. [166] Er they're talking about things I hadn't heard of. [167] Gutter pairs, blocks, cylinder blocks, traffic lights,
Bill (PS2B3)	[168] Yes block, [...] blocks.
(PS2B2)	[169] O sheets.
Bill (PS2B3)	[170] Mm. [171] No. [172] No. [173] I collect anything .
(PS2B2)	[...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[174] I don't restrict myself at all.
(PS2B2)	[175] [reading] Which if any of the types of stamp books and other stamps [] Sorry [reading] other stamp related products listed, do you collect yourself nowadays? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[176] Oh. [177] ... None of those.
(PS2B2)	[178] None at all?
Bill (PS2B3)	[179] None of those.
(PS2B2)	[180] Right. [181] ... [...] [reading] Apart from the stamps and products you collect, do you ever buy any of the publications and other things to do with stamp collecting on card seven? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[182] Mhm. [183] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[184] Right which?
Bill (PS2B3)	[185] Erm twelve first then
(PS2B2)	[186] You'd want
Bill (PS2B3)	[187] about
(PS2B2)	[188] No no it's which of er
Bill (PS2B3)	[189] Which ones
(PS2B2)	[190] Aha.
Bill (PS2B3)	[191] The magazines.
(PS2B2)	[192] Which do you buy? [193] Aha. [194] Magazines.
Bill (PS2B3)	[195] Number one, A one.
(PS2B2)	[196] Right number one. ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[197] [...] that's it [...]
(PS2B2)	[198] Right thank you.
Bill (PS2B3)	[199] C ... five.
(PS2B2)	[200] Stamp albums.
Bill (PS2B3)	[201] Aha. [202] And D seven.
(PS2B2)	[203] Right [...] now okay .
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[204] And again, from the card,
Bill (PS2B3)	[205] This one?
(PS2B2)	[206] Er aha. [207] In a year, how much have you spent on philatelic magazines?
Bill (PS2B3)	[208] On magazines
(PS2B2)	[209] Aha well
Bill (PS2B3)	[210] Probably [...] times a year [...] about six pounds.
(PS2B2)	[211] What band is that [...] ?
Bill (PS2B3)	[212] That's er two.
(PS2B2)	[213] And on tweezer [...] , magnifying glasses, [...] accessories and stamp albums .
Bill (PS2B3)	[214] Yes it says it's on stamp albums.
(PS2B2)	[215] The total?
Bill (PS2B3)	[216] The total er [...] four.
(PS2B2)	[217] Right. [218] [reading] Do you collect stamps which follow particular themes or areas, or do you collect all sorts of subjects? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[219] All sorts of subjects.
(PS2B2)	[220] Okay. [221] [...] [reading] Which of the statements on card nine, best describe how you organize you s own stamp collection? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[222] Number two.
(PS2B2)	[223] Okay.
Bill (PS2B3)	[...] ...
(PS2B2)	[224] Can you remind me whether you ever buy stamps or any other stamp related products to give to another collector as a gift did you say?
Bill (PS2B3)	[225] No.
(PS2B2)	[226] Right. [227] ... That's very good. [228] That saves some questions. [229] ... [reading] I'd now like to talk about places where stamps can be bought, whether for your own collection or to give as gifts. [230] Firstly have you heard of the British Philatelic Bureau? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[231] Yes. ...
(PS2B2)	[232] [reading] Please now think of the different places you have bought any stamps and related products, either for your own collection or as gifts for collectors. [233] Firstly, which of the sources on card fourteen, erm have you ever used to but such stamps and products? [] [...] at any time ever?
Bill (PS2B3)	[234] Er [...] . [235] Post Office. [236] ... Main counter and at the philatelic counter as well.
(PS2B2)	[237] Right. [238] ... Any place else?
Bill (PS2B3)	[239] Er single purchases in the B P B in Edinburgh.
(PS2B2)	[240] Mhm.
Bill (PS2B3)	[241] Number eight.
(PS2B2)	[242] Right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[243] Purchased at particular shops. [244] ... Other associates, oh yes. [245] Oxfam. ...
(PS2B2)	[246] Right. [247] [reading] And which have you used during the last year? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[248] Er ... The main counter,
(PS2B2)	[249] Mhm.
Bill (PS2B3)	[250] the dealer number eight,
(PS2B2)	[251] Mhm.
Bill (PS2B3)	[252] and Oxfam.
(PS2B2)	[253] Right. [254] [reading] On the card, how often have you used or received items from the main counter during the last year, choosing from fifteen? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[255] Less often.
(PS2B2)	[256] Right. [257] [reading] And at the main counter, er of the total amount you've spent in the last year, both on your own stamp collection and on gifts to other collectors, [] which you don't do, [reading] how much have you spent at the main counter? [] [258] Er
Bill (PS2B3)	[259] Between Do I have to use this again ?
(PS2B2)	[260] Er No it's not. [261] It's ... [reading] Of the total amount you've spent in the last year, both on your own [...] , how much have you spent at the main [] ... It doesn't ask you how much you spent anywhere. [262] ... Mm. [263] Don't [...] quite understand that .
Bill (PS2B3)	[264] Don't understand at all.
(PS2B2)	[265] No. [266] No the answer to the question is almost er ... all or most of the total, about half, or less than half the total.
Bill (PS2B3)	[267] A half of which total?
(PS2B2)	[268] I don't know. [269] Exactly. [270] And I didn't have any bother with this the other night. [271] Maybe it's me who's who's [...] .
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[272] Oh the total amount you have spent in the last year. [273] They must mean, on stamps. ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[274] Right.
(PS2B2)	[275] How much of the total amount that you have spent, was spent at the main counter? [276] Was it almost er All or or most of the total amount you spent in the last year, about half or less than half the total? [277] That's the meaning, it's what you spent on stamps in the last year.
Bill (PS2B3)	[278] Er a what the total [...]
(PS2B2)	[279] Aha. [280] How much of the total was spent at the main counter.
Bill (PS2B3)	[281] How much [...] spent at the main counter?
(PS2B2)	[282] Aha.
Bill (PS2B3)	[283] Er
(PS2B2)	[284] All or most of the total, or the half of less than half the total amount you spent? ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[285] About ... about one twenty.
(PS2B2)	[286] No, what what the meaning of If you can think of how much you spent,
Bill (PS2B3)	[287] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[288] what proportion of what you've spent Aha. [289] Has been spent
Bill (PS2B3)	[290] Oh what proportion of that? [291] Erm
(PS2B2)	[292] at the main counter. [293] All or most of the total, about half or less than half the to
Bill (PS2B3)	[294] Less.
(PS2B2)	[295] Less than half.
Bill (PS2B3)	[296] Less than half.
(PS2B2)	[297] Right. [298] Er
Bill (PS2B3)	[299] [...] sorry I'm
(PS2B2)	[300] No it's okay No it's
Bill (PS2B3)	[301] [...] confused it's
(PS2B2)	[302] Aye. [303] Erm ... and at the B P B in Edinburgh on single purchases. [304] How much?
Bill (PS2B3)	[305] Again, less, the same proportion. [...]
(PS2B2)	[306] Less than half?
Bill (PS2B3)	[307] Less than half. [308] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[309] Sorry I should also have asked er from from the card. [310] Er about philatelic collections and counter. [311] Er how often have you used that in the last year? [312] You don't use that now? [...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[313] [...] don't use it. [314] [...] B P B
(PS2B2)	[315] Purchases at a shop now. [316] Er how much of the money you've spent, what proportion, all, most of the total, about half or less than half the total have you spent at a shop .
Bill (PS2B3)	[317] About about half.
(PS2B2)	[318] Right. [319] And at Oxfam ?
Bill (PS2B3)	[320] Oxfam.
(PS2B2)	[321] The amount?
Bill (PS2B3)	[322] Only about half again. [323] Yeah [...]
(PS2B2)	[324] Er ... [reading] If you could think about your experience of buying stamps of buying stamps and other items, to collect from the main counter of your Post Office. [325] Using card sixteen, how much difficulty if any do you have in finding the items you want to buy from the main Post Office? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[326] Mm. [327] Never have any problem.
(PS2B2)	[328] Never?
Bill (PS2B3)	[329] Never. [330] No.
(PS2B2)	[331] And at the philatelic counter? [332] Have you ever had any problems?
Bill (PS2B3)	[333] No.
(PS2B2)	[334] Never?
Bill (PS2B3)	[335] Not had any problems.
(PS2B2)	[336] And single purchases from the B P B.
Bill (PS2B3)	[337] No no problem really. [338] It was quite straight forward.
(PS2B2)	[339] Okay. [340] And eighteen. [341] [...] tape sorry. [342] [...] . ... Right, [reading] During the past twelve months, have you ever bought any first day covers for new British issues either for yourself or other collectors? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[343] No. ...
(PS2B2)	[344] Now I'd like to discuss stamps more generally.
Bill (PS2B3)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[345] [reading] The Royal Mail produces about nine British special stamp issues a year. [346] Do you think that this is too many special issues, too few []
Bill (PS2B3)	[347] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[348] [reading] or about the right number? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[349] [...] too many.
(PS2B2)	[350] And why do you think there are too many? ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[351] Er
(PS2B2)	[352] What are your reasons for saying there are too many? ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[353] Probably because the value of the stamps will not hold as you know, time goes on. [354] A lot of the special issues
(PS2B2)	[355] Devalues stamps.
Bill (PS2B3)	[356] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[357] You've obviously been told
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[358] that before hen they've got at you [...] . [359] Erm ... [reading] Thinking now of all the different British philatelic and stamp related products that are currently on offer, how would you normally get to hear about them? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[360] Er ... How would I get to hear about them?
(PS2B2)	[361] Mhm.
Bill (PS2B3)	[362] I tend to get to hear about them from seeing [...] the Post Office.
(PS2B2)	[363] Right. [364] ... Mm Post Office. [365] Post Office counter. [366] Right, there's a list of all the other ways, in which you can get to hear of them. [367] Er any of these [...] get to hear,
Bill (PS2B3)	[368] Magazines.
(PS2B2)	[369] Aha.
Bill (PS2B3)	[370] Post Offices.
(PS2B2)	[371] Right. ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[372] That's it.
(PS2B2)	[373] Right. [374] Okay.
Bill (PS2B3)	[375] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[376] There was er [...] she said, Blue Peter, and they should have put it in because they've got it in for the kids. [377] [laugh] It's true, Blue Peter are always telling you there's a new issue coming out. [378] Er
Bill (PS2B3)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[379] E [reading] here have you seen or heard any advertising for British special stamp issues? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[380] In in philatelic magazines. [381] Er special advertising? [...]
(PS2B2)	[382] No it isn't no no It's not special but it's just [reading] Where have you see or heard any advertising for British special stamp issues? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[383] There ... there was some on television.
(PS2B2)	[384] Right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[385] And the stamp magazines and at the Post Office itself.
(PS2B2)	[386] Right. [387] And [reading] Have you seen or heard British special stamp issues, being advertised through any other sources shown on this card? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[388] [laugh] ... That's have we covered number eight? [389] Posters in Post Offices ?
(PS2B2)	[390] Number eight? [391] Aha well that's I put that down already
Bill (PS2B3)	[392] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[393] for a a spontaneous answer to that. [394] Any others?
Bill (PS2B3)	[395] No.
(PS2B2)	[396] No. [397] Now [reading] Would you say that seeing the T V adverts for special issues has made you a lot more likely to buy them, []
Bill (PS2B3)	[398] No.
(PS2B2)	[399] [reading] made you a little more likely to buy or []
Bill (PS2B3)	[400] No.
(PS2B2)	[401] [reading] made no difference? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[402] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[403] Right. [404] And [reading] Have you seen or heard other articles or features about British special issues in any of the sources shown? [] [405] Sorry wrong card.
Bill (PS2B3)	[406] No. [407] [laugh] None there.
(PS2B2)	[408] Aha. ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[409] Oh Blue Peter's on this.
(PS2B2)	[410] Oh so it is. [411] And have you seen anything
Bill (PS2B3)	[412] I don't see Blue Peter [...]
(PS2B2)	[413] Alright so you tend to be at work. [414] Aha. [415] I used to enjoy it when Alistair was a wee boy but you grow out of it
Bill (PS2B3)	[416] That's right.
(PS2B2)	[417] you get away from it.
Bill (PS2B3)	[418] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[419] Aha.
Bill (PS2B3)	[420] Erm ... Well not really no.
(PS2B2)	[421] No. [422] Right. [423] That's fine. [424] Okay.
Bill (PS2B3)	[425] Not [...] those.
(PS2B2)	[426] [reading] Have you seen any special stamp issues produced by other countries? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[427] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[428] [reading] How do you think the British special stamp er program compares to that of other similar programs from other countries? [429] Is it better, worse or about the same? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[430] I think it's slightly better quality. [431] Better.
(PS2B2)	[432] British is better. [433] ... On this card. [434] [reading] What is the main way in which British special issue stamps are better? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[435] The designs are better.
(PS2B2)	[436] Right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[437] Well which which there would
(PS2B2)	[438] It's design that's number three.
Bill (PS2B3)	[439] The designs are generally better, right. [440] [reading] In what other ways are they better? []
(PS2B2)	[441] Number nine.
Bill (PS2B3)	[442] Better quality printing .
(PS2B2)	[443] The quality.
Bill (PS2B3)	[444] Right. [445] Is that it?
(PS2B2)	[446] That's [...] .
Bill (PS2B3)	[447] Fine. [448] ... [reading] Which of these magazines if any, connected to stamp collecting and philately in general, do you know of? []
(PS2B2)	[449] Do I know if?
Bill (PS2B3)	[450] Yes know of.
(PS2B2)	[451] Well two three four.
Bill (PS2B3)	[452] Right. [453] And [reading] Which magazines do you ever read? []
(PS2B2)	[454] Three.
Bill (PS2B3)	[455] And [reading] Do you read all all or most issues of Stamp Magazine? []
(PS2B2)	[456] No.
Bill (PS2B3)	[457] Right. [458] ... No code for [...] . [459] [reading] Have you ever of heard of the Stamp Bug Club? []
(PS2B2)	[460] No.
Bill (PS2B3)	[461] [reading] This is a young collectors club run by Royal Mail. []
(PS2B2)	[462] Mm. [...] .
Bill (PS2B3)	[463] Er [reading] If you're a member you get a pack of information, an annual special issue calendar and albums. [464] Every two months you also receive Stamp Bug News, a topical magazine for club members. [465] It costs three pounds to join for two years, or five pounds to join for five years. [466] Does the idea of joining the Stamp Bug Club, interest you a lot, interest you a little or not really interest you at all? []
(PS2B2)	[467] Not at all.
Bill (PS2B3)	[468] Not at all.
(PS2B2)	[469] [reading] Why are you not interested? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[470] I'm not interested because it doesn't fit doesn't cover the type of collecting I do. ...
(PS2B2)	[471] Okay.
Bill (PS2B3)	[472] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[473] Afraid not.
Bill (PS2B3)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[474] Er [reading] Do you belong to any other clubs or British associations to do with stamp collecting? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[475] No. [476] Not now.
(PS2B2)	[477] Right. [478] [reading] Which of the other items on this list if any, have you collected in the last year? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[479] [laugh] ... Nine,
(PS2B2)	[480] Aha. ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[481] Thirteen,
(PS2B2)	[482] Aha. [483] ... That it? [484] ... Just the last year.
Bill (PS2B3)	[485] Old when they say old antiquarian books
(PS2B2)	[486] And maps.
Bill (PS2B3)	[487] [...] quite what they mean by old antiquarian?
(PS2B2)	[488] I don't know. [489] ... No idea.
Bill (PS2B3)	[490] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[491] Okay. [492] Back to card [...] [reading] Using card [...] , tell me how you have spent in total during the last twelve months on your collection of models, toys, cars, trains, boats etcetera. [] [493] Again it's just a band. ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[494] Zero zero.
(PS2B2)	[495] Right. [496] And old phonographic records? ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[497] Two.
(PS2B2)	[498] Right. [499] So you've got something in common with Gordon after all. [500] He collects records.
Bill (PS2B3)	[501] Well I don't actively collect them, I just have them around.
(PS2B2)	[502] [laugh] He must have a c a collection of thousands thousands of records.
Bill (PS2B3)	[503] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[504] To me it's a very boring hobby because you can't listen to them, what can you do with them? [505] Thousands and thousands of records. [...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[506] [...] stamps.
(PS2B2)	[507] [laugh] I mean w with stamps at least you can look at them and you know go over them
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[508] and and aye but
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[509] [reading] I'm now going to read out a number of interests. [510] For each one I'd like you to tell me how interested you are in it by choosing an answer from card twenty four. [511] Collecting stamps? [] [512] How
Bill (PS2B3)	[513] Fairly interested.
(PS2B2)	[514] Okay. [515] Home computing?
Bill (PS2B3)	[516] [laugh] Not interested.
(PS2B2)	[517] Not at all. [518] Fashion and clothes?
Bill (PS2B3)	[519] Not [laughing] interested [] .
(PS2B2)	[520] Watching sport?
Bill (PS2B3)	[521] Not interested.
(PS2B2)	[522] Participating in sport?
Bill (PS2B3)	[...] [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
Bill (PS2B3)	[523] Not interested.
(PS2B2)	[524] Not not at all. [525] Photography?
Bill (PS2B3)	[526] Vaguely interested.
(PS2B2)	[527] Books?
Bill (PS2B3)	[528] Very interested. [...] .
(PS2B2)	[529] Oh good good good. [530] Erm card or board games?
Bill (PS2B3)	[531] No. [...]
(PS2B2)	[532] Crosswords or crossword pu Puzzles or crosswords?
Bill (PS2B3)	[533] No.
(PS2B2)	[534] Not at all. [535] Wines?
Bill (PS2B3)	[536] Mm er mm. [537] Not very.
(PS2B2)	[538] Not very. [539] Cookery?
Bill (PS2B3)	[540] Very interested.
(PS2B2)	[541] Do it yourself?
Bill (PS2B3)	[542] Fairly interested.
(PS2B2)	[543] And gardening. [laugh]
Bill (PS2B3)	[544] You need the truth don't know [...]
(PS2B2)	[545] Och yes.
Bill (PS2B3)	[546] Not very.
(PS2B2)	[547] Not very.
Bill (PS2B3)	[548] Okay.
(PS2B2)	[549] Not when you you've got It's different when you have the time though. [550] It's a a dif different thing altogether when you've got time to do that really. [551] Then you can do it when you like.
Bill (PS2B3)	[552] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[553] When you're working and you're busy and you've got to do it I mean like this last week because of playing golf mainly, and putting weedkiller down, the grass is this high and
Bill (PS2B3)	[554] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[555] just haven't the time to do it. [556] And when I have
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[557] the time it's been wet.
Bill (PS2B3)	[558] You must have noticed our grass at the front on your way in then. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[559] I didn't notice No I didn't. [560] No honestly I didn't.
Bill (PS2B3)	[561] It's a nice green colour.
(PS2B2)	[562] Yes well there you go. [laugh]
Bill (PS2B3)	[563] A nice green colour just about four inches long. [564] [...] more in places.
(PS2B2)	[565] Aye well mine must be. [566] Er [reading] Have you passed on your interest in stamps to children or grandchildren ? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[567] No. [568] Oh
(PS2B2)	[569] Oh. [570] Or encouraged
Bill (PS2B3)	[571] No.
(PS2B2)	[572] any other children to start a stamp collection? ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[573] Not not not children.
(PS2B2)	[574] There's a medical condition that I have, I can't see dust either.
(PS2B4)	[575] Oh what a relief there's somebody like me .
(PS2B2)	[576] Er
Bill (PS2B3)	[577] Partial-sightedness [...]
(PS2B2)	[578] You haven't passed it on to any children at all?
Bill (PS2B3)	[579] Not not to children but to several adults.
(PS2B2)	[580] But it's no children.
Bill (PS2B3)	[581] No children no .
(PS2B2)	[582] Er
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[583] [reading] In which ways do you think Royal Mail could encourage more children to get involved in stamp collecting? [] [584] ... No prompting please.
(PS2B4)	[585] [whispering] Do you like milk? []
(PS2B2)	[586] No thanks Jean, just as it comes. [587] You can speak you know.
Bill (PS2B3)	[588] Yes you can join in the conversation.
(PS2B2)	[589] Course you can.
Bill (PS2B3)	[590] Yeah. [591] They won't they won't hear.
(PS2B4)	[592] They will hear.
Bill (PS2B3)	[593] They won't [...]
(PS2B2)	[594] Are you suggesting that Jean has nothing interesting to say?
Bill (PS2B3)	[595] No I'm [...] the tape recorder the tape recorder won't hear a thing she says.
(PS2B2)	[596] Oh right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[597] Even if she does shout at me.
(PS2B4)	[598] [...] the tape recorder might discover new words.
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[599] Oh I very much doubt that Jean.
Bill (PS2B3)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[600] Okay, how do you think the Royal Mail could encourage mor children to get involved?
(PS2B4)	[601] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[602] Thank you Jean. ...
(PS2B4)	[603] He can's think of any way that doesn't involve
Bill (PS2B3)	[604] I honestly can't think of er any way that they could do that.
(PS2B2)	[605] Right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[606] It's it's a thing [...]
(PS2B2)	[607] or not
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[608] Usually they get a teacher at school, that's what gets them started.
Bill (PS2B3)	[609] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[610] [reading] If you could please now think of all the products available to stamp collectors. [611] Which of these items do you think have been produced by Royal Mail mainly for collectors collectors rather than for the public at large? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[612] One
(PS2B2)	[613] The [...] .
Bill (PS2B3)	[614] Mm. [615] four, five,
(PS2B2)	[616] Presentation packs, first day covers ,
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[617] Yearly prestige stamp books .
Bill (PS2B3)	[618] [...] Year book.
(PS2B2)	[619] Yeah.
Bill (PS2B3)	[620] All the issues [...] .
(PS2B2)	[621] [reading] Can you think of any other products or services connected with stamp collecting, which you feel should be introduced by Royal Mail? [] [622] ... Margaret did a good piece of work today.
(PS2B4)	[623] What did she do?
(PS2B2)	[624] Went to the Clydesdale Bank, took two brollies
(PS2B4)	[625] Did they phone to say
(PS2B2)	[626] Two lots of [...] and
(PS2B4)	[627] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[628] two
(PS2B4)	[629] They've they left a message.
(PS2B2)	[630] Aha and two [...] .
(PS2B4)	[631] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[632] So that was very very good.
(PS2B4)	[633] Yes the [...] had all
(PS2B2)	[...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[634] No. [...]
(PS2B4)	[635] these things there .
(PS2B2)	[636] That's alright.
(PS2B4)	[637] [...] somebody to pick them up.
(PS2B2)	[638] [reading] I'd now like your help more directly. [639] Can you fill in this page yourself. [] [640] It's nothing fancy [...] You just put a wee circle around the answer you want to give to each statement.
(PS2B4)	[641] Oh good.
(PS2B2)	[642] Yes.
(PS2B4)	[643] Well you can [...]
(PS2B2)	[644] I've got a wee boy at the scouts and he should be in about half past eight. [645] As long as I'm not [...] I said, Are you sure it's not going to be too late, cos I'll be forty five minutes. [646] He said, No that's quite alright. [647] So
(PS2B4)	[648] Oh good, that's good. [649] How many have you still to get.
(PS2B2)	[650] [laugh] I've still got plen Well er that will be two boys, a lady giver, cos you have to find people who give stamps as well as.
(PS2B4)	[651] Oh yes. [652] Now that's quite difficult I would think.
(PS2B2)	[653] And a male collector. [654] So that's me got four and I've got another five to do and I had a telephone call from field controller in Edinburgh last night and I really do think I don't know how I managed to keep my tongue still. [655] Comments like, I suggest instead of wasting time on leads, I suggest you try knocking on doors. [656] That is the only way you will find them. [657] I said, Well Anne Avril and I knocked on eighty five doors on Thursday evening before we got one contact. [658] I said i can go out and walk the streets for hours and find no one.
(PS2B4)	[659] Right.
(PS2B2)	[660] I says, I have to follow up leads. [661] Yes but I'm not interested in you following up leads, I'm interested in nine interviews. [662] I said, Well I think it'll be a miracle if I get nine interviews because the quota is far too tight. [663] I don't understand what you mean by tight. [664] I says, Well [laugh] right
(PS2B4)	[665] The area's not
(PS2B2)	[666] Right away I said, I have three people to find for working class areas who collect stamps, who are interested in stamps. [667] I said, People generally have more to do with their money. [668] And of course what defeated me was [...] knows this fellow that is an ambulance driver and he's classed as working class. [669] And he stays in a four-bedroomed detached house. [670] But his wife's a school teacher and that's why.
(PS2B4)	[671] Yes well [...] .
(PS2B2)	[672] So you're not going to get that [...] like I mean that that was a one in a million shot, finding
(PS2B4)	[673] Yes.
(PS2B2)	[674] him.
(PS2B4)	[675] I would say so.
(PS2B2)	[676] And I w was telling Bill about him and as Bill said it's a waste driving an ambulance. [677] He d actually designs stamps and first day covers.
(PS2B4)	[678] Does he?
(PS2B2)	[679] A work of art Jean. [680] Absolute work of art. [681] You just couldn't believe what the man has done.
Bill (PS2B3)	[682] Mm. [683] It shows. [...]
(PS2B4)	[684] [...] shows the people who go to the
Bill (PS2B3)	[685] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[686] the church.
Bill (PS2B3)	[687] Yeah.
(PS2B4)	[688] What's her name again?
(PS2B2)	[689] I don't know. [690] She teaches in .
(PS2B4)	[691] Aye she's she's she does the lot.
(PS2B2)	[692] Very nice person.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[693] She's a very nice person.
(PS2B4)	[694] just been lectured to.
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[695] Your mother was there.
Bill (PS2B3)	[696] [laughing] It says here, [] I write a lot of letters to other people. [697] Then it, How exactly?
(PS2B2)	[698] Well do you?
Bill (PS2B3)	[699] Do they mean, I write I don't write a lot of letters. [700] I dictate a lot of letters to a lot of people. [701] [...] Tomorrow I will sign ultimately twenty odd Do they want me to sit
(PS2B2)	[702] Aye I think they must it must be talking about dictating as well.
Bill (PS2B3)	[703] down and sit writing long hand?
(PS2B2)	[704] No. [705] No I think they'll mean it's number of stamps .
Bill (PS2B3)	[706] Cos I rarely ever do that.
(PS2B2)	[707] I think it's they look for the number of stamps used rather if it's what you
Bill (PS2B3)	[708] Ah well good. [...]
(PS2B2)	[709] Aha.
Bill (PS2B3)	[710] Okay.
(PS2B2)	[711] I would say that. [712] Even though you don't physically write them. [713] Even dictating them I think you should count that as writing.
Bill (PS2B3)	[714] Do you count that?
(PS2B2)	[715] I think so though .
Bill (PS2B3)	[716] Oh. [717] Oh well.
(PS2B2)	[718] I think so.
Bill (PS2B3)	[719] Right [...]
(PS2B2)	[720] If you want to change
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[721] it you just put a stroke through it.
Bill (PS2B3)	[722] Just put a stroke through that one.
(PS2B2)	[723] And circle the one you you want to circle.
Bill (PS2B3)	[724] So I agree strongly yes.
(PS2B2)	[725] Mhm.
Bill (PS2B3)	[726] Ah write a few letters to the hospital [...] forty forty .
(PS2B2)	[727] Oh aye. [728] They said to Bill on the telephone. [729] I've been knocking on doors the other night there. [730] I went along to you know the council houses in there ?
(PS2B4)	[731] Yes
(PS2B2)	[732] Some of the answers I got. [733] Big girl was just about to close a door and she opened a big smile and she said, Ah I just remembered my daddy collects stamps. [734] I said, Oh great. [735] She says, Aha, every morning, he's a postman. [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[736] Three doors along a great big strapping lad. [737] Er I would say a sixteen or seventeen. [738] I said, er none of your pals collect stamps no? [739] And he says, None of my pals are like that. [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[740] What sort of answer [laugh] Okay.
Bill (PS2B3)	[741] [laugh] There was no answer to that.
(PS2B2)	[742] Do you know your full postcode?
Bill (PS2B3)	[743] Which one? [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[744] Here.
Bill (PS2B3)	[745] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[746] Could you give me your full postcode please?
Bill (PS2B3)	[747] .
(PS2B2)
Bill (PS2B3)	[748] .
(PS2B2)	[749] . [750] And when you write your address down, do you quote your full postcode, always sometimes or only when asked? [751] If I were to ask you for your address, what would you do?
Bill (PS2B3)	[752] Only when asked.
(PS2B2)	[753] Only when asked. [754] Right. [755] You want to write as little as possible on them. [756] [reading] I'd like to end with a few more general questions about you and your leisure time. [757] First, which of these daily newspapers do you ever read or look at? [] [...] book there they are.
Bill (PS2B3)	[758] Mhm. [...]
(PS2B2)	[759] Yes I'm afraid so, Bill.
Bill (PS2B3)	[760] I I I read the times.
(PS2B2)	[761] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[762] The Independent.
(PS2B2)	[763] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[764] The Glasgow Herald, I read that .
(PS2B2)	[765] I like the Dependent it's a
(PS2B4)	[766] We buy it [...] won't buy anything else.
Bill (PS2B3)	[767] Yeah. [768] That's it.
(PS2B2)	[769] And it is independent cos you get [...] news from throughout the land. [770] [reading] And which do you regularly? [771] By regularly I mean at least four times a week. []
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[772] The Herald. [773] I need to write and tell them it's not the Glasgow Herald any more. [774] Believe you me it's it's progress getting [laughing] [...] [] . [775] Er
Bill (PS2B3)	[776] Oh aye.
(PS2B2)	[777] Or or getting a Scottish newspaper on the list .
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[778] Yes. [779] If you could just turn over to the next card now Bill. [780] [reading] Which of these Sunday papers do you ever read []
Bill (PS2B3)	[781] Two.
(PS2B2)	[782] [reading] or look at? [] [783] Aha. [...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[784] And [...] . [...]
(PS2B2)	[785] Er right [...] yes fine. [786] And again, [reading] Which do you read regularly? [787] By regularly I mean att least twice a month. []
Bill (PS2B3)	[788] Both of them.
(PS2B2)	[789] Right. [790] Next card please. [791] [reading] Which if any of these magazines do you read or look at on a regular basis? [792] By which I mean at least one out of every two issues. []
Bill (PS2B3)	[793] [laughing] [...] great list of magazines [...] [] ... Regular basis?
(PS2B2)	[794] Aha, one out of every two issues. [795] That's pretty regular.
Bill (PS2B3)	[796] Have you seen the list?
(PS2B4)	[797] No.
(PS2B2)	[798] Radio Times, T V Times ,
Bill (PS2B3)	[799] T V Times.
(PS2B2)	[800] What's On T V, T V Quick,
Bill (PS2B3)	[801] And then and then
(PS2B2)	[802] Women's Weeklies You see women have been asked this as well.
Bill (PS2B3)	[803] Aye I know.
(PS2B2)	[804] Er Women's Weeklies, Women's Monthlies and then other magazines.
Bill (PS2B3)	[805] Where where are the men's magazines?
(PS2B2)	[806] Yeah, that's a good question, where are they indeed?
Bill (PS2B3)	[807] There isn't a man's magazine in the whole thing.
(PS2B2)	[808] There's not.
Bill (PS2B3)	[809] Gardener's World.
(PS2B2)	[810] That is very strange.
(PS2B4)	[811] You know sometimes [...] don't read magazines on a regular basis .
(PS2B2)	[812] So is none of them you read them then
Bill (PS2B3)	[813] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[814] on a regular basis, Bill? [815] Right that's fine.
Bill (PS2B3)	[816] Bella, Woman's Weekly, [...] , Woman's Own, [...] .
(PS2B2)	[817] Er
Bill (PS2B3)	[818] Chat, Mine, [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[819] [...] . [820] I mean as far as
Bill (PS2B3)	[821] Good Food, Woman's Own ,
(PS2B2)	[822] Me. [823] A magazine called Me.
Bill (PS2B3)	[824] Family Circle. [825] [...] Never heard of it.
(PS2B2)	[826] Prima, never heard of that one.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[827] Essentials.
(PS2B4)	[828] Yes [...]
(PS2B2)	[829] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[830] Not not on a regulars
(PS2B2)	[831] Yeah.
Bill (PS2B3)	[832] Er just they have [...] Bella as . [...] .
(PS2B2)	[833] Actually that's not a bad magazine, Bella. [...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[834] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[835] Er
Bill (PS2B3)	[836] I've just got these pictures of the [...]
(PS2B2)	[837] Where the where I used to see the Bella magazines wasn't in Southern [...] we went with Bill's father. [838] And occasionally if I was looking for a magazine to buy, it would get a lot of i good information in it too. [839] Okay if you'd like to go to
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[840] the next card Bill. [841] [reading] Are you a paid up member of any of the following organizations.? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[842] [laugh] The A A.
(PS2B2)	[843] The A A. [844] Is that the only one.
Bill (PS2B3)	[845] That's the only one.
(PS2B4)	[846] You're in the National Breakdown [...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[847] No it's not on the list.
(PS2B2)	[848] [...] it's er National Trust .
Bill (PS2B3)	[849] That's not first. [850] The A A, R A C, English Heritage, Overseas [...] Association, Conservative Party, Labour Party and the Lib Dems.
(PS2B2)	[851] [reading] Thinking now of television and video watching. [852] How on how many days a week do you usually watch television? [] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[853] Every day now. [854] Yeah .
Bill (PS2B3)	[855] Every day [...]
(PS2B2)	[856] [reading] And on a typical day when you watch, for how many hours do you usually watch T V? [] [857] Including videos but you [...] videos so it's T V.
Bill (PS2B3)	[858] Two.
(PS2B2)	[859] Right. [860] [...] go to card thirty. [861] [reading] Using this card, could you tell me how much of your T V watching time is spent watching B B C One? []
(PS2B4)	[862] Get the news [...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[863] About half.
(PS2B4)	[864] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[865] Er B B C Two?
Bill (PS2B3)	[866] The other half.
(PS2B2)	[867] [laugh] Right you don't watch I T V or Channel Four?
Bill (PS2B3)	[868] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[869] Okay now turning to the radio. [870] [reading] On how many days a week do you usually listen to the radio? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[871] Seven days.
(PS2B2)	[872] Yeah. [873] [reading] On a typical day when you listen, for how many hours do you listen to the radio? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[874] Quarter to seven till eight o'clock.
(PS2B4)	[875] That's all he does eight to quarter to eight [...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[876] No.
(PS2B2)	[877] You don't listen in the car?
Bill (PS2B3)	[878] Eight o'clock yeah.
(PS2B4)	[879] Oh yes.
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[880] What is the total [...] then?
Bill (PS2B3)	[881] That's about two and a quarter.
(PS2B2)	[882] Er two or three Is it nearer
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[883] two or nearer three?
Bill (PS2B3)	[884] Nearer two.
(PS2B2)	[885] And still on card thirty. [886] [reading] Using card thirty again, could you tell me how much of your radio listening time is spent tuned to B B C Radio One? []
Bill (PS2B3)	[887] None.
(PS2B2)	[888] Radio Two?
Bill (PS2B3)	[889] [...] Most.
(PS2B2)	[890] Radio Three? ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[891] Hardly any.
(PS2B2)	[892] Er Radio Four?
Bill (PS2B3)	[893] Radio Four, none.
(PS2B2)	[894] [reading] Classic F M? [] ...
Bill (PS2B3)	[895] Less than that.
(PS2B2)	[896] Right. [897] Virgin Radio?
Bill (PS2B3)	[898] I haven't [laughing] found it yet [] .
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[899] I'd forgotten about it until this came in.
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[900] Er any local B B C station?
Bill (PS2B3)	[901] I try not to. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[902] Right, so hardly any.
Bill (PS2B3)	[903] No. [904] Hardly any.
(PS2B2)	[905] Any local commercial station?
Bill (PS2B3)	[906] No.
(PS2B2)	[907] Any other radio station? [908] What other radio station ?
Bill (PS2B3)	[909] Well i isn't if you'd asked me last August when we bought the [...] I would have said probably Radio Brittany or Radio Rouane
(PS2B2)	[910] Oh right.
Bill (PS2B3)	[911] or something like that
(PS2B4)	[...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[912] [laughing] because we couldn't get anything else [] .
(PS2B2)	[913] Yeah. [914] Er have you ever bought goods through the post by mail order?
(PS2B4)	[...]
Bill (PS2B3)	[915] Er no .
(PS2B2)	[916] [...] I never either I'd have said too. [917] But I sent to [...] for [...] . [918] So I suppose that's mail order You know you've got to
Bill (PS2B3)	[919] Oh aye. [...]
(PS2B4)	[920] We never buy anything.
Bill (PS2B3)	[921] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[922] You're probably to [...] . [923] [...] Right.
(PS2B4)	[924] [...] buy things through the post. ...
(PS2B2)	[925] Right. [926] And you're a doctor. [927] General Practitioner. [928] ... Er and I think we're safe to say that you're married and
Bill (PS2B3)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[929] Two adults in the household. [930] One collector?
Bill (PS2B3)	[931] One collector. [932] [...] I depends what you mean by collector
(PS2B4)	[933] One sufferer. [934] One sufferer. [laugh] [break in recording]
(PS2B2)	[935] Can I ... [...] twenty six. [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[936] Twenty five.
(PS2B2)	[937] Twenty five. [938] Oh sorry. [939] Twenty five. [940] Twenty five's old enough I suppose.
(PS2B4)	[941] I know well stupid [...] brat.
(PS2B2)	[942] Still not happy in .
(PS2B4)	[943] Oh aye it's okay. [944] Oh did I tell you she was thinking of going to do a chiropody certificate. [945] She phoned her careers office today, they're sending her the information free, you're thinking [...] .
(PS2B2)	[946] Yes I know. [...]
(PS2B4)	[947] I didn't know that.
(PS2B2)	[948] doing that, at College.
(PS2B4)	[949] Where's ?
(PS2B2)	[950] Erm be far side it's right [...] keep going out and out.
(PS2B4)	[951] Oh. [952] I mean that used to be a college in [...]
(PS2B2)	[953] [...] I but [...] [...] colleges.
(PS2B4)	[954] Oh right that's.
(PS2B2)	[955] Erm that's probably why [...] get into. [956] They're changing places.
(PS2B4)	[957] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[958] Well she's quite enjoying it.
(PS2B4)	[959] Is it full time ?
(PS2B2)	[960] But er Aha.
(PS2B4)	[961] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[962] But as far as that er I got the information for the athletes foot and then I checked with Bill here.
(PS2B4)	[963] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[964] But he hadn't heard of There's another thing which Amanda suggested I try.
(PS2B4)	[965] Another [...]
(PS2B2)	[966] Er Three percent compound [...] . [967] I'm sure but no one 's ever heard of it.
(PS2B4)	[968] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[969] It's a [...] . [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[970] Exactly so. [971] However I try it and [...] I went in the shop and [...] . [972] I got an awful funny feeling that [...] shoes. [973] Cos it's a fungus [...] could it not spread from my shoes?
(PS2B4)	[974] Erm [...] your socks. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[975] Quite.
(PS2B4)	[976] Why don't you get something to wipe them with or something.
(PS2B2)	[977] I don't know.
(PS2B4)	[978] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[979] No idea. [980] So how much is the course, did she say?
(PS2B4)	[981] How's she paying it is she just leaving school [...]
(PS2B2)	[982] Erm well she's she's a grant because she's never had a grant before.
(PS2B4)	[983] Are they still getting grants?
(PS2B2)	[984] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[985] Oh I thought they'd stopped all these.
(PS2B2)	[986] [...] . [987] Amanda [...] just back from Tenerife
(PS2B4)	[988] But [...] just you
(PS2B2)	[989] on holiday. [990] Twenty six
(PS2B4)	[991] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[992] erm and she paid for the holiday, but she has an allergy. [993] She's got she mustn't eat anything with preservatives. [994] Well that's
(PS2B4)	[995] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[996] not easy. [997] So somebody had told her to apply and she would get a grant, to help towards her special diet. [998] So she applied and she got five hundred and fifty pounds.
(PS2B4)	[scream]
(PS2B2)	[999] So whether that's an annual thing or not I don't know.
(PS2B4)	[1000] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1001] But it's to help it's cos she's a student, and it's to help towards a special diet.
(PS2B4)	[1002] Was she working?
(PS2B2)	[1003] No she's at college.
(PS2B4)	[1004] But was she working before she
(PS2B2)	[1005] Er no.
(PS2B4)	[1006] She was unemployed for how long ?
(PS2B2)	[1007] She was unemployed. [1008] They've got most most times I think you'll have to be unemployed for six months.
(PS2B4)	[1009] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1010] But she had been working er er as a [...]
(PS2B4)	[1011] [...] pay for this. [1012] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1013] On do you know like the Buses or the
(PS2B4)	[1014] Aye right.
(PS2B2)	[1015] continental equivalent and she was on them.
(PS2B4)	[1016] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1017] Er but it wasn't steady employment.
(PS2B4)	[1018] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1019] S [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1020] Aye. [1021] [...] needs to pay for it.
(PS2B2)	[1022] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1023] I don't know how much it'll cost. [1024] But then if she could get set nights. [1025] [...] Friday night, Saturday night, then she could pay for it.
(PS2B2)	[1026] Aha. [1027] Aha. [1028] The National Health couldn't train her?
(PS2B4)	[1029] She doesn't work for them [...]
(PS2B2)	[1030] Of course she doesn't work for them now. [...] . [...]
(PS2B4)	[1031] Er no.
(PS2B2)	[1032] But privately private private
(PS2B4)	[1033] [...] Mhm. [1034] Aye but the Health Service [...]
(PS2B2)	[1035] [...] What a very stupid question, of course it'll be private.
(PS2B4)	[1036] They're taking patients in.
(PS2B2)	[1037] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1038] So that's how she got her contract of employment, her probationary period's over.
(PS2B2)	[1039] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1040] So she's signed that [...]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1041] So I mean if she can get set nights, she won't get in this term anyway I presume all the places will have gone.
(PS2B2)	[1042] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1043] But she wants to do erm [whispering] oh God, [] reflexology, that's just three hundred pounds. [1044] Just I mean she [...] . [1045] But it's just three hundred pound.
(PS2B2)	[1046] [...] resolves aromatherapy and
(PS2B4)	[1047] Well you see she wants to do the whole lot er cos it's all She said, Feet are the only part of the human body she can tolerate. [1048] [laugh] In strangers. [1049] [laugh] [laughing] And and [...] folk [...] . []
(PS2B2)	[1050] [...] spent a lot of money on reflexology to see if it would help her sleep. [1051] She's still not sleeping at nights.
(PS2B4)	[1052] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1053] [...] tried absolutely everything.
(PS2B4)	[1054] Is she alright during the day or is she absolutely haggard ?
(PS2B2)	[1055] Tired. [1056] Kn knackered. [1057] Because she's got a stressful job.
(PS2B4)	[1058] Mm. [1059] Margaret Thatcher never slept much either. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1060] No. [...]
(PS2B4)	[1061] [...] apply for Prime Minister. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1062] Er
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1063] She's er [...] . [1064] She's not [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1065] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1066] She's [...] .
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1067] It's really all in her mind but [...] . [1068] And she's given up her one night a week in the W which [...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1069] Er [...] social science. ... [...]
(PS2B4)	[1070] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1071] Said that sh she hasn't been eating and she
(PS2B4)	[1072] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1073] went under [...] . [1074] Erm but to get into the social work department she'll still have to do the that that [...]
(PS2B4)	[1075] Mm. [1076] Och aye. [1077] I know.
(PS2B2)	[1078] Er
(PS2B4)	[1079] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1080] Aha. [1081] But she's another two years. [1082] [...] for social workers. [1083] She's having trouble with it. [1084] Sh I think she sees a lot of women who have been [...] social workers. [1085] Erm ... a drop out centre drop in centre? [1086] Drop centre. [1087] It's not for drop outs, it's for drug addicts and [...] Glasgow. [1088] But there's been a few hairy things, stabbings and [...] it was getting a wee bit dodgy so she's given that up. [1089] [...] ... really bad for drug addicts and
(PS2B4)	[1090] Oh right.
(PS2B2)	[1091] A sort of wild west country. [1092] [...] . ... And she's got to look after the budget as well.
(PS2B4)	[1093] Ah. [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1094] Aye. [1095] ... Ronnie he's still looking for a job [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1096] Is he?
(PS2B2)	[1097] It's two months now, I think they're starting to get a wee bit worried.
(PS2B4)	[1098] What was he doing?
(PS2B2)	[1099] A chartered accountant.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1100] In the insolvency department of his office too. [1101] I mean the one department you would have thought would have been [...] enough.
(PS2B4)	[1102] [...] ?
(PS2B2)	[1103] Oh I wish. [1104] [laugh] Good start. [1105] [...] Margaret [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1106] Any whatsit worth their salt ... any what do you call it What is he? [1107] Chartered accountant worth their salt would certainly not be working for any health service or trust hospital.
(PS2B2)	[1108] Why is that Dr [...] Oh right. [1109] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1110] Erm he'd dead against it.
(PS2B2)	[1111] I just don't er [...] . [1112] She's so sick. [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1113] Yes I got this pile of papers on the Wednesday.
(PS2B2)	[1114] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1115] Er go and design an endoscopy suite.
(PS2B2)	[1116] You've to design you're making one ?
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1117] Who said this?
(PS2B4)	[1118] Ray .
(PS2B2)	[1119] [laugh] and [...] for your next trick, Ray. [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1120] No it wasn't quite as bad as that, Ray er what do you call it had already done it [...] . [1121] I had to quote [...] .
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1122] I had to look through all the rest and take what I wanted.
(PS2B2)	[1123] Well that's quite essential cos you you should know what's [...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1124] Oh I see right, fair enough.
(PS2B4)	[1125] I was raging.
(PS2B2)	[1126] [...] papers a lot.
(PS2B4)	[1127] Aye I had to look through the whole lot of them. [1128] And get back to the designs and see what could be improved upon and what have you. [1129] Then that very night I got a phone call from this woman. [1130] This dietician saying that the architect w wants to know all about endoscop what it involves, so that it gives him an idea as to what is [...] about. [1131] So I thought, What are you asking me for?
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1132] I said, If the architect wants to know, he can come and look and see for himself. [1133] I says, I only work part time you know.
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1134] She said, Oh I take it [...] you don't know anything about this. [1135] I said, No, how should I? [1136] She said, Dr was supposed to speak to you about it. [1137] I said, Well he's never mentioned it.
(PS2B2)	[1138] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1139] I said, [...]
(PS2B2)	[1140] Well you should have high regard [...] asking for yours.
(PS2B4)	[1141] Well it's just [...] the architect She said, Well it doesn't matter, if he hasn't said to you. [1142] Well I said she said, [...] surprised. [1143] I said, Oh, I'm not surprised, [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1144] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1145] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1146] I felt like saying, I've got a bloody big pile of rubbish here that I have to go over so I've put in for [...] overtime.
(PS2B2)	[1147] Why not.
(PS2B4)	[1148] I apologi I was raging. [1149] I thought, Right this could take seconds.
(PS2B2)	[1150] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1151] If I just knew where he was prepared to stand and then could just sort of do the things round about.
(PS2B2)	[1152] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1153] So I paged him. [1154] And he [...]
(PS2B2)	[1155] How big how big is the room?
(PS2B4)	[1156] Oh it's big.
(PS2B2)	[1157] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1158] Well biggish. [1159] It's about that width from there
(PS2B2)	[1160] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1161] to there and oh [...] square sort of to here, like a four
(PS2B2)	[1162] [...] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1163] bedded bay.
(PS2B2)	[1164] Oh there's four beds in it? [1165] I only know about the room.
(PS2B4)	[1166] There would have been, it's a ward. [1167] At the moment they're redesigning
(PS2B2)	[1168] Oh I see aha.
(PS2B4)	[1169] one of the infectious diseases wards. [1170] So of course we were there, the geriatrics in there [...]
(PS2B2)	[1171] [...] Infectious disease ward?
(PS2B4)	[1172] Aye well it's over in that unit.
(PS2B2)	[1173] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1174] It's geriatrics I think [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1175] Right.
(PS2B4)	[1176] We've only got the one infectious diseases ward. [1177] Oh God. [1178] So I was saying, I paged him,
(PS2B2)	[1179] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1180] I said Aye. [1181] I said, it's me, I said, can you come over? [1182] Over where? [1183] I said, Oh guess where. [1184] I said, I'm on [...] ward one or two, I don't know which one it is.
(PS2B2)	[1185] So you you [...]
(PS2B4)	[1186] So I said, are you coming over, I said, this could take minutes if I knew where exactly
(PS2B2)	[1187] So
(PS2B4)	[1188] you were going to stand.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1189] Now
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1190] In casualty [...] day unit is to open It's all to be opened up, they're building a new day unit and whether the day unit has access
(PS2B2)	[1191] Why are they doing this?
(PS2B4)	[1192] to the main building.
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1193] Why are they doing it?
(PS2B4)	[1194] Why?
(PS2B2)	[1195] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1196] Och i don't know why they're moving it down there, it's already got a day unit on fifteen.
(PS2B2)	[1197] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1198] Och I don't know. [1199] I don't know what's going on in the hospital. [1200] I don't bother to find out. [1201] So he didn't come over. [1202] No I'm not coming over. [1203] He said, Just think of the place as four walls. [1204] Bare walls. [1205] I said, There's bloody windows, the whole length of one wall.
(PS2B2)	[1206] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1207] Just
(PS2B2)	[1208] So [...]
(PS2B4)	[1209] forget about the windows. [1210] Forget No forget about the windows.
(PS2B2)	[1211] You can't forget about the windows. [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1212] Oh aye, they can be bricked up.
(PS2B2)	[1213] [...] no sunshine in [...] again.
(PS2B4)	[1214] Oh no, they'll I suggested they leave the window ledge and just left sort of a window that deep along
(PS2B2)	[1215] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1216] for some light,
(PS2B2)	[1217] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1218] Anyway. [1219] I [...] was raging. [1220] Well I'm not coming over. [1221] Just like that. [1222] I thought, you cheeky piggy.
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1223] I said, Oh well, right. [1224] and shoved the phone down. [1225] [...] . So I thought, Right, this is it. [1226] So I get the back of something and I scribbled, Cupboards here, cupboards here, cupboards here, cupboards here and I thought, Right I'll see [...] off duty. [1227] I was supposed to be off at four, this was six so I thought, [...] two hours overtime.
(PS2B2)	[1228] Right, quite right cos you have to work for two [...]
(PS2B4)	[1229] So that was that. [1230] So I got home [...] .
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1231] Aha. [1232] Aha. [1233] Now i if his computer er had been up and running, erm you know I might be able to [...] design something. [1234] [laugh] Anyway so and then of course Oh that was another thing, I said to him, No you'll want to sit somewhere you'll want I don't want a desk in there, I'm not having my desk in there. [1235] I said, Oh yes, and if you think for one minute I'm taking [...] pathology forms to your room, I said, you must have had [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1236] Is it far away ?
(PS2B4)	[1237] I said, You'll need to have a desk in there .
(PS2B2)	[1238] Is it far away?
(PS2B4)	[1239] Hey?
(PS2B2)	[1240] Far away?
(PS2B4)	[1241] His room?
(PS2B2)	[1242] Aye.
(PS2B4)	[1243] Oh I've no idea but it's certainly more than that room and I'm not [...] . [1244] So I said, you'll need something [...] you'll need somewhere [...] knees under. [1245] [...] . [laugh] So the nest day I s As I say I slammed the phone down
(PS2B2)	[1246] Hey, he used to be your good friend [...]
(PS2B4)	[1247] [...] this Oh I was raging at him. [1248] Oh crawl crawl the next day.
(PS2B2)	[1249] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1250] He was supposed to go down well he did go to a meeting, but in he comes first of all. [1251] Good morning. [1252] I thought, Hmm. [1253] And then he [...] . [1254] But Jenny, she was in hysterics, she said, My God, [laughing] I see a lot of folk get the cold shoulder, but that took a bit of beating. []
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1255] Erm I'm sorry about yesterday, but I just couldn't come. [1256] I said, Oh really. [1257] [...] . And that [...] . [1258] Well maybe.
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1259] [...] . [1260] So I said, Here it is. [1261] No he came back he came back after he had been at the meeting. [1262] I said, [...] . [1263] Oh you should have done it all. [1264] I said, Indeed I have not, [...] the top.
(PS2B2)	[1265] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1266] [laugh] Oh you hadn't time to look at the rest. [1267] I said, Well I haven't time to look at the rest.
(PS2B2)	[1268] What's the rest?
(PS2B4)	[1269] All this other pile of stuff I never even looked at . [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1270] So you don't know what's [...]
(PS2B4)	[1271] [laughing] No I [...] this wee drawing. [] [1272] [laugh] That was it.
(PS2B2)	[1273] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1274] [laugh] I said, Oh thank you very much [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1275] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1276] I thought, Oh aye. [1277] I said, Then tell me, I said, I don't understand these terms. [1278] What the blazes is this? [1279] A trolley loading bay? [1280] I said, What in heaven's name are we having?
(PS2B2)	[1281] A trolley loading bay?
(PS2B4)	[1282] And then it's got these rooms, it's like an eight-bedded eight-trolleyed bit.
(PS2B2)	[1283] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1284] Only it's got this separate bit for trolley loading it's got written on it. [1285] I thought, What the hell is that? [1286] I said, Why don't you just knock the flaming wall down. [1287] That's in case the roof falls in. [1288] I thought, Oh don't [laughing] tell me any more [] .
(PS2B2)	[1289] [laugh] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1290] Oh and I just hope he's remembering that I don't want to be the sister in there. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1291] You don't want
(PS2B4)	[1292] Want to be the sister.
(PS2B2)	[1293] You don't?
(PS2B4)	[1294] No.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1295] I don't want anything to do with the patients [laughing] [...] [] .
(PS2B2)	[1296] [laugh] [...] . [1297] Well what what would you be then?
(PS2B4)	[1298] Well I'm not I'm not being a sister in the er endoscopy room. [1299] I'll do the scopes.
(PS2B2)	[1300] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1301] I'll do the bits that I'm involved in now.
(PS2B2)	[1302] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1303] But I'm being I'm not admitting the patient or anything after
(PS2B2)	[1304] Will you not lose money by doing that?
(PS2B4)	[1305] Well I don't care. [1306] I'm not doing it. [1307] I don't know anything about ward work, I don't know anything about the forms, I don't know anything Well obviously you get R T [...]
(PS2B2)	[1308] Why didn't you need this in your work.
(PS2B4)	[1309] Theatre?
(PS2B2)	[1310] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1311] I haven't been in wards for about twenty two years.
(PS2B2)	[1312] Oh.
(PS2B4)	[1313] And I have I'm completely out of touch. [1314] I don't know anything .
(PS2B2)	[1315] Each [...] of course you'd be about seventeen years [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1316] Well.
(PS2B2)	[1317] [laugh] [...] [laugh] .
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1318] Right.
(PS2B4)	[1319] Anyway I haven't [...] about any of the newfangled ideas .
(PS2B2)	[1320] Ah fair enough I didn't know about that [...] . [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1321] So I'd have no idea. [1322] The only thing I know [...] and [...] . [1323] And I'll just take an F grade or whatever.
(PS2B2)	[1324] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1325] An F grade. [1326] Other than that I'm gonna do two nights. [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1327] Aye well [...] some of the night shift [...] have been done away. [1328] I am told.
(PS2B4)	[1329] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1330] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1331] Well from what Jeannette and Margaret have been saying, we think probably what'll happen is a lot of the the girls who do just do nights, a lot of them for pin money [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1332] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1333] Suddenly gonna have a staff shortage.
(PS2B4)	[1334] Oh this is [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1335] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1336] Alison gets six pound ... thirty odd. [1337] An hour.
(PS2B2)	[1338] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1339] Well this is nights.
(PS2B2)	[1340] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1341] The the twelve hours twenty four hours [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1342] Mm. [1343] Oh it is.
(PS2B4)	[1344] But she gets [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1345] Mhm. ...
(PS2B4)	[1346] Aye. [1347] ... Ah well see how it goes. [1348] Because I mean this is just the start of the trust I mean, nothing'll change next year. [1349] By next year they'll probably issue new contracts and
(PS2B2)	[1350] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1351] [...] . [1352] I mean I'm just [...] anyway.
(PS2B2)	[1353] Mm mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1354] [...] I'm so valuable to him. [1355] [...] gonna go downhill. [1356] Because he'd the di You're the Medical Director.
(PS2B2)	[1357] Yes I know that.
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1358] Mhm. [1359] You said that.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1360] [...] since you w went on the ward that's been [...]
(PS2B4)	[1361] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[1362] [...] you thinking how you [...] used to talk to [...] it was great wasn't it?
(PS2B4)	[1363] Oh it's still fine.
(PS2B2)	[1364] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1365] Oh we still get on fine.
(PS2B2)	[1366] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1367] It was just I thought [...] what they hell do you think he's on here?
(PS2B2)	[1368] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1369] Hey? [1370] Who does he think he's talking to? [1371] Get this [...] want it tomorrow. [...]
(PS2B2)	[1372] Yeah.
(PS2B4)	[1373] Wait a minute. [1374] I'm not a designer, I'm a nurse piss off. [1375] I should have said.
(PS2B2)	[1376] I'd forgotten [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1377] And do you believe it, they wanted it the next day.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1378] I thought, Aye [...]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1379] I thought, Alright, come again. [1380] You Where was it you said he said? [...] ?
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1381] Not many houses in [...] I must have passed his house when I was up there [...] . [1382] There's only about
(PS2B2)	[1383] They haven't got numbers.
(PS2B4)	[1384] No.
(PS2B2)	[1385] Tell me about it.
(PS2B4)	[1386] I know.
(PS2B2)	[1387] Alright. [1388] [...] house [...] was looking for. [1389] Erm Is it a big old house is it [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1390] No I don't think so, I get the impression [...] new house. [1391] It's a bungalow .
(PS2B2)	[1392] Is one of the new 'uns then? [1393] Aha aye it is. [1394] Yes [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1395] What did I do with the car keys?
(PS2B2)	[1396] Ten They were sitting on top of your bag outside.
(PS2B4)	[1397] Aye I know.
(PS2B2)	[1398] There were about ten [...] . [1399] Ten twelve new bungalows [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1400] Well I think I don't think it's all that It's not a recent bungalow by the sounds of it cos he's had to have new plumbing
(PS2B2)	[1401] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1402] or [...] a new luxury bathroom suite [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1403] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1404] [...] it gives me the idea that it's not. [...] .
(PS2B2)	[...] [...]
(PS2B2)	[1405] You must have put them in your bag.
(PS2B4)	[1406] Aye likely. [1407] No I put them in my pocket. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1408] [laugh] Aye erm
(PS2B4)	[1409] Och no we got on fine .
(PS2B2)	[1410] I was very I was very surprised. [1411] I expected [...] to to be like a village.
(PS2B4)	[1412] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1413] But it's not.
(PS2B4)	[1414] I've never been.
(PS2B2)	[1415] It's not. [1416] I was most surprised. [...] .
Bill (PS2B3)	[1417] And what is it like?
(PS2B2)	[1418] It's one street. [1419] You come down a steep hill from [...] . [1420] On the left hand side is the golf course and then there was
(PS2B4)	[1421] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1422] two, four, six, big old houses.
(PS2B4)	[1423] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1424] And then on the left hand side the old houses continue and the female I interviewed er I reckoned there had been a house there that had been knocked down, and they built a wee bungalow.
(PS2B4)	[1425] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1426] And then on the other side, that's where the wee bungalows start.
(PS2B4)	[1427] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1428] And there are about ten [...] . [1429] They're not big. [1430] There's nothing I would say [...]
(PS2B4)	[1431] [...] a lo of land [...] ?
(PS2B2)	[1432] No.
(PS2B4)	[1433] Because the sounds of it, it's quite a big garden he's got.
(PS2B2)	[1434] Mm. [1435] Where where was it that anaesthetist stayed that you and [...]
(PS2B4)	[1436] I mean, I don't know erm
(PS2B2)	[1437] Maybe you went to a an afternoon cocktail party or something. [...]
(PS2B4)	[1438] A late lunch at Dr 's. [1439] That was [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1440] Oh [...] . [1441] Maybe that's what I was thinking the big house was. [1442] [...] both begin with D.
(PS2B4)	[1443] Mhm. [1444] Well that's enormous I mean, his garage
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1445] [...] detached house.
(PS2B2)	[1446] Yeah. [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1447] Well straight road.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1448] Mm no. [...]
(PS2B2)	[1449] It's not the best it's not the best of roads though.
(PS2B4)	[1450] No there's [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1451] Mm. [1452] Aye well. [1453] Hope it's a happy [...] day tomorrow. [1454] [...] . [...] old ladies section outing on Sunday. [...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1455] before Sunday. [1456] We're going would you believe it to [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1457] Oh [...] mhm. [1458] That's nice.
(PS2B2)	[1459] [cough] exciting stuff.
(PS2B4)	[1460] That's alright.
(PS2B2)	[1461] I've never been to [...]
(PS2B4)	[1462] You're jo
(PS2B2)	[1463] I have been to [...] . [1464] I lost my good watch last year in [...] . [1465] How could I forget that.
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1466] Oh whereabouts is the golf course then?
(PS2B4)	[1467] It's up the bank I think. [1468] You know when where it's signposted [...] , I think it's [...]
(PS2B2)	[1469] Oh no [...]
(PS2B4)	[1470] I think
(PS2B2)	[1471] [...] erm we went to [...] for lunch before [...] . [1472] Er what's the name of the place?
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1473] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1474] Oh. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1475] [laugh] don't be silly [...] . [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1476] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1477] [...] Hotel.
(PS2B4)	[1478] Aye.
(PS2B2)	[1479] And then we went on to and parked at the start of [...] and walked up one side and back down the other side and that's as much as I saw of it.
(PS2B4)	[1480] I [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1481] Oh no is it a golf club possibly. [...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1482] Er before you get to [...] hotels.
(PS2B4)	[1483] [...] in the bottom out the bottom [...]
(PS2B2)	[1484] Aha. [...]
(PS2B4)	[1485] the other end I think they go [...] and round to the right .
(PS2B2)	[1486] [...] I thought it was on the right hand side as you went into [...] village. [1487] Obviously it's not.
(PS2B4)	[1488] Och I might be wrong. [1489] Could be [laughing] wrong [] .
(PS2B2)	[1490] The food is supposed to be good. [1491] So that's always something. ...
(PS2B4)	[1492] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1493] East Kilbride has a lovely golf course. [1494] Nice golf house. [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1495] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1496] And erm [...] .
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1497] One day we were up at Dunfermline.
(PS2B4)	[1498] Oh right.
(PS2B2)	[1499] [...] my hand. [1500] Pulled a muscle or something. [1501] And I could only play nine holes and I had to
(PS2B4)	[1502] Oh dear.
(PS2B2)	[1503] give up. [1504] But I knew I was going to East Kilbride [...] I thought, This is stupid, it's only gonna make it worse. [1505] So I don't know. [1506] I took two [...] and [...] on Tuesday and it's been fine since so God knows what's gone wrong. [1507] [...] . But er because of that I decided to go into Dunfermline and have a wee wander round.
(PS2B4)	[1508] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1509] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1510] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1511] It's really nice. [1512] I've never been there before. [1513] Nice new shopping centre and Marks and Sparks and [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1514] Oh. [1515] Oh that's the [...] ?
(PS2B2)	[1516] Aye and the [...] .
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1517] [...] Oh and who took the wrong road going across. [1518] And Sheila had to start [...] giving me direction. [1519] I said, No Sheila, I said, I know where I'm going, it's all right. [1520] So of course she didn't like to say. [1521] We're two thirds of the way along I thought, Sheila, I said, I'm heading for the wrong bridge. [1522] I'm heading for the Forth road instead of the [...] bridge. [1523] I said, Well I'm not [...]
(PS2B4)	[1524] I mean [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1525] [...] didn't know where we were going.
(PS2B4)	[1526] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1527] Er cos it's not actually Dunfermline, the golf club it's at er [...] . [1528] [...] . You know where [...] is. [1529] It's three miles out of Dunfermline as you leave the town and go towards [...] Bridge. [1530] Anyway it took us an hour and twenty minutes to get there, it took us forty minutes to get home. [1531] That's the difference. [1532] Er it's much much longer going [...] Bridge. [1533] Er What was I going to say?
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1534] No. [1535] No. [1536] For once no.
(PS2B4)	[laugh] ...
(PS2B2)	[1537] Oh no, it doesn't matter. [1538] No it was just that as I say, I went off to town. [1539] But I realized I was most surprised. [1540] [...] spend a day Oh aye, that's what I was going to say, that was the first time I've actually been through [...] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1541] Oh right. [1542] mhm. [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1543] No [...] .
(PS2B4)	[...] [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1544] No [...] but not a lot. [1545] Then we carried on out that road. [1546] [...] And some person had very kindly turned round the sign for the A nine nine four or whatever it was .
(PS2B4)	[1547] Oh no.
(PS2B2)	[1548] And that's where we went round. [1549] However we stopped and got good directions.
(PS2B4)	[1550] Mhm. [1551] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1552] And we found it eventually and it was beautiful day too. [1553] Started off wet and I thought, Oh is this going to be miserable?
(PS2B4)	[1554] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1555] [...] it was cold certainly but the sun shone. [1556] So ... [...] phones last night but the reception was very bad.
(PS2B4)	[1557] Where is he?
(PS2B2)	[1558] No idea. [1559] I was only hearing one word in five.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1560] Obviously too far away.
(PS2B4)	[1561] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1562] He'll be using his mobile phone again. [1563] The only time that works on the long distances is if there's high pressure. [1564] The signal must travel better [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1565] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[1566] In good weather. [1567] ... Erm [...] . [1568] ... [...] ... He went to look at the window sill and there was this [...] think it's about time You did something about these [...] . [1569] I thought, Away you go. [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[laugh] [...]
(PS2B2)	[1570] No no my conscience [...] . [1571] I did that washing yesterday. [1572] And I did that er [...] . [1573] But it's doing all this lot [...] . [1574] I mean the bottom bit's easy to do it's fun but the cushions and that [...]
(PS2B4)	[1575] Oh right [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1576] But from a dis if I could just get a good you know one of these really warm days.
(PS2B4)	[1577] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1578] Take them out outside and do them. [1579] It's be no bother.
(PS2B4)	[1580] Yeah.
(PS2B2)	[1581] And you really have to see them before and after. [1582] I mean
(PS2B4)	[1583] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1584] you can't really see what's been done, but I know it's been done. [1585] All the black corners have all been taken off. [1586] But this here, [...] reading newspapers and you get a lot
(PS2B4)	[1587] Mm mm mm.
(PS2B2)	[1588] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1589] Oh well, [...] my goodness me in a carpet .
(PS2B2)	[1590] Mm. [1591] Carpet's alright.
(PS2B4)	[1592] I know.
(PS2B2)	[1593] That carpet that that this house has been the ba best advert for that carpet ever.
(PS2B4)	[1594] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1595] [...] . [1596] Since I got it.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1597] I mean the first two the first two or three nights after [...] and that's like the sleeping death because it's it'd been so long since I had a complete nights sleep.
(PS2B4)	[1598] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1599] [...] . ...
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1600] Aye it's three month short of seventeenth birthday.
(PS2B4)	[1601] Oh oh is she.
(PS2B2)	[1602] Aye Bill was talking about driver's licence.
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1603] And all the kids all round about here seem to be quite upset by it as well. [1604] But I'd forgotten that you know, when we were wee kids, [...] and you used to take them that night you know .
(PS2B4)	[1605] Oh that's right. [1606] Of course. [...]
(PS2B2)	[1607] You forget about.
(PS2B4)	[1608] Aye
(PS2B2)	[1609] We tended to think of Sandy as a liability because he had been ... so [...] over the past years. [1610] Especially [...] married. [1611] We kept forgetting, he wasn't always like that.
(PS2B4)	[1612] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1613] You know, he used to go everywhere with us in the car.
(PS2B4)	[1614] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1615] So you'll be able to go to sea now. [1616] Will you not?
(PS2B2)	[1617] No.
(PS2B4)	[1618] Why not.
(PS2B2)	[1619] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1620] Oh.
(PS2B2)	[1621] It's a tiny little ship it's a wee poky thing .
(PS2B4)	[1622] Oh dear. [1623] Ah. [1624] Now you've got the chance to go you'll have to get a decent sized boat now. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1625] Aye. [1626] Cos I wouldn't worry about the cats cos I'm sure one of our neighbours would look after them.
(PS2B4)	[1627] Och aye.
(PS2B2)	[1628] [...] makes it look quite big but it's it's not like.
(PS2B4)	[1629] Oh right, it's one of the new
(PS2B2)	[1630] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1631] thingummajiggeries is it. [...]
(PS2B2)	[1632] [...] You can't really see it. [1633] Erm
(PS2B4)	[1634] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1635] [...] . [1636] Erm
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1637] And here is a bit with [...] deck.
(PS2B4)	[1638] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1639] There's a hole straight down into the sea.
(PS2B4)	[1640] Oh.
(PS2B2)	[1641] Where they drop the the [...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1642] Oh.
(PS2B4)	[1643] Little submarine.
(PS2B2)	[1644] [...] remote remote [...] vehicle.
(PS2B4)	[1645] I see. [1646] Okay.
(PS2B2)	[1647] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1648] And this is a crane thing is it.
(PS2B2)	[1649] Yeah, that's where [...] find the er stores and stuff under.
(PS2B4)	[1650] Oh.
(PS2B2)	[1651] She's nice [...] , she's quite good. [1652] [...] And well Ian [...] he's into computers and things like that, I mean the technology The bridge, behind the bridge just unbelievable, I think it's
(PS2B4)	[1653] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1654] got four or five computers. [1655] Er taking data from ... whatever.
(PS2B4)	[1656] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1657] [...] lot more [...] the the the job they have, it's a a very long [...] it runs from just off the coast of er Norway right down
(PS2B4)	[1658] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1659] to Great Yarmouth and then across to [...] . [1660] ... So and the foods good.
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[1661] Oh that's [...]
(PS2B4)	[1662] Tremendous. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1663] [...] sticker. [1664] There there and there.
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1665] He's inherited I believe.
(PS2B4)	[1666] Is he quite liking it?
(PS2B2)	[1667] It's a job, that's all.
(PS2B4)	[1668] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1669] I think it's too much of the [...] from the [...] you know the contractors. [1670] They tell them what to do.
(PS2B4)	[1671] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1672] And sometimes he doesn't like it. [1673] Needles to say
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1674] i if they want them to do anything [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1675] Mhm. [1676] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1677] [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1678] Mm. [1679] [...] head office. [1680] Because there was no H P Sauce. [1681] All the condiments were unheard of brands. [1682] [...] . Er yeah, they actually [...] wanted Baxter's this and Colman's that
(PS2B4)	[1683] Oh.
(PS2B2)	[1684] and Heinz this.
(PS2B4)	[1685] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1686] Petty.
(PS2B4)	[1687] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1688] Really petty. [1689] [...] quite a lot of work in er [...] phone calls over the past two weeks. [1690] [...] operators. [...]
(PS2B4)	[1691] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1692] [...] a lot of work was done.
(PS2B4)	[1693] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1694] [...] . [1695] He was offered a good job on a ship called the [...] and she's purpose built for the North sea after
(PS2B4)	[1696] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1697] the Alpha Piper.
(PS2B4)	[1698] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1699] And she is [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1700] Oh.
(PS2B2)	[1701] Oh it's the most weird looking thing.
(PS2B4)	[1702] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1703] And all sorts of safety equipment on it. [1704] Er fire hoses and things.
(PS2B4)	[1705] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1706] And it would have been good because it was per The only thing was he would have had to have gone up to and do a survival course.
(PS2B4)	[1707] Oh right.
(PS2B2)	[1708] You know like taking you up high and dropping into You know .
(PS2B4)	[1709] Aha. [1710] Aha. [1711] Yes. [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1712] But I had a funny feeling possibly he's not wanting to do it anyway. [1713] [...] [...] doesn't know it but er the lady who er in charge of personnel for [...] . [1714] And the [...] course which is a helicopter landing officer.
(PS2B4)	[1715] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1716] It's [...] . [1717] And they don't have enough people with that so
(PS2B4)	[1718] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1719] you do the courses in [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1720] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1721] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1722] [...] I don't know if he'll mind [...] . [1723] ... But the second mate's the same, they're all straight from navigation college and [...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1724] No [...]
(PS2B4)	[1725] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1726] Well they they've got the theory.
(PS2B4)	[1727] Aha.
(PS2B2)	[1728] Mhm you know. [1729] Mm. [1730] I think I told you, the first [...] . [1731] I don't know what this one this one's being called. [1732] [...] Danish bacon. [1733] See the people who own the ship are Danish. [1734] [...] . And i the the lady who runs the personnel department, it's her husband who [...] on the ship.
(PS2B4)	[1735] Mhm. [1736] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1737] Sinbad, what on earth are you wanting? [1738] Mm? [1739] What is it? [1740] Is it teatime? [1741] Is it teatime?
(PS2B4)	[1742] Anyway I was suppose I'd better get back. [...]
(PS2B2)	[1743] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1744] I took pork out at lunch
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1745] time.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1746] Mm?
(PS2B2)	[1747] Any more holidays in the offing?
(PS2B4)	[1748] Me? [1749] Well I'm off on Tuesday and [...] . [1750] I think I am. [1751] And then I'm off next week. [1752] Oh aye I'm off next week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday .
(PS2B2)	[1753] Oh give us a shout and we'll go for lunch then.
(PS2B4)	[1754] [...] Oh. [1755] No I'm not off Wednesday. [1756] I'm off Monday, Tuesday and if we get a doctor in, I'll do the scopes I'll be in on Thursday. [1757] So I might just have Monday Tuesday Monday Tuesday.
(PS2B2)	[1758] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1759] If not, then Monday Tuesday Thursday Monday Tuesday Thursday off. [1760] [...] And the Monday Tuesday. [1761] Monday Tuesday [...] six,, that's eight days, nine
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1762] days ten eleven twelve,th thirteen, twelve days I might have taken this year already.
(PS2B2)	[1763] Mhm. [1764] Is this you having to take these days?
(PS2B4)	[1765] No.
(PS2B2)	[1766] No. [1767] ... Is it your own choice.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1768] So it counts as holidays.
(PS2B4)	[1769] Well [...] weekdays. [...]
(PS2B2)	[1770] Mhm. [1771] Yeah.
(PS2B4)	[1772] Cos Ray's away. [1773] And I don't see why I should [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1774] No [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1775] [...] I don't know what to do.
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1776] [laugh] I just don't
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1777] Ah well maybe a week Tuesday, if you remember if I remember. [1778] Or
(PS2B2)	[1779] What date is it.
(PS2B4)	[1780] [...] Nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty ninth of June.
(PS2B2)	[1781] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1782] Well I'll phone you anyway.
(PS2B2)	[1783] Aye erm
(PS2B4)	[1784] Just in case something comes up and I've got to go in or.
(PS2B2)	[1785] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1786] Aye I believe you. [1787] I know I should have phoned
(PS2B4)	[1788] [...] all that housework to do.
(PS2B2)	[1789] [...] told you about erm how he's [...] . [1790] Cafe dinner it was great .
(PS2B4)	[1791] Oh aye.
(PS2B2)	[1792] June the twenty ninth. [1793] Oh no.
(PS2B4)	[1794] And of course Margaret's home again in July for a week.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1795] Niece's wedding.
(PS2B2)	[1796] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1797] Mind you it's daft. [1798] Imagine paying eight hundred pounds return for a day. [1799] Mind you I suppose it breaks. [1800] I mean that's between April and October she's due back.
(PS2B2)	[1801] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1802] [...] home for a week. [1803] Oh Nicola's applied for her social work course.
(PS2B2)	[1804] Has she? [1805] Mhm. [1806] Nicola that's [...] Yes .
(PS2B4)	[1807] That's her daughter. [1808] The one who's in [...] working in a distillery. [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1809] And she's a son Alistair [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1810] Aye, he's ... building [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1811] Mm. [1812] he was [...]
(PS2B4)	[1813] Mm.
(PS2B2)	[1814] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1815] Aye he's not [...] . [1816] Well [...] what they drop I d I don't know, but you could have applied
(PS2B2)	[1817] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1818] for a job as what was it, [...] . [1819] Control room staff for the police.
(PS2B2)	[1820] Right. [1821] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1822] But that was too much responsibility [...] . [1823] Somebody's life might depend on him getting [...] information. [1824] For the [...] giving it out to
(PS2B2)	[1825] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1826] [...] information somebody might die because he'd been too slow, or there's been a delay in transmission, or there's been a fault in the transmission and he's not prepared to take that responsibility.
(PS2B2)	[1827] Mm. [...]
(PS2B4)	[1828] It's very annoying. [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1829] Yeah. [1830] Is he married?
(PS2B4)	[1831] Married and divorced he married oh less than a year .
(PS2B2)	[1832] Oh of course that's right that's right. [1833] Aye that's right, [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1834] We were supposed to go to the wedding, my father died.
(PS2B2)	[1835] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1836] So there's still not any divorce through yet although Margaret Now if
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1837] she's going to take him to solicitors.
(PS2B2)	[1838] That would be [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1839] Ah but no no. [1840] I think she [...] . [1841] Erm och I remember she wasn't I don't know. [1842] I think [...] .
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1843] Aye no no. [...]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1844] I don't think you can do that now anyway.
(PS2B2)	[1845] No right. [1846] Is he going to be up there sort of permanent now?
(PS2B4)	[1847] I think he's put in for a [...] . [1848] He put in for five.
(PS2B2)	[1849] [...] as long as it's not Bosnia. [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1850] Oh he would apply for there.
(PS2B2)	[1851] Oh dear.
(PS2B4)	[...] [...]
(PS2B4)	[1852] Oh aye he applied to go to the Gulf. [...]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1853] they need them over here.
(PS2B2)	[1854] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1855] [...] before they go. [1856] Erm he put in for Cyprus I think but then everybody puts in for Cyprus .
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1857] Erm
(PS2B2)	[1858] [...] . [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1859] Or Germany.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1860] Och I don't know, he put in for something else.
(PS2B2)	[1861] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1862] But I mean [...] he's been up there how long? [1863] About two years?
(PS2B2)	[1864] Oh yeah.
(PS2B4)	[1865] But he likes it up there.
(PS2B2)	[1866] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[1867] It's doing this [...] he doesn't come back here for leave, he'd rather stay up there. [1868] [...] Does he go away hill walking and.
(PS2B2)	[1869] Aye [...]
(PS2B4)	[1870] Yeah. [1871] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1872] No I've given it up, [...]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1873] we can play it now we've got that [...] . [1874] Er no I haven't [...] Oh golfing.
(PS2B2)	[1875] Oh great.
(PS2B4)	[1876] That's why he [...]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1877] to get golf clubs.
(PS2B2)	[1878] Knowing his luck he'll get hit in the nose with a golf ball. [laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1879] Oh God, Aye.
(PS2B2)	[1880] Break it again.
(PS2B4)	[1881] Mm. [1882] Oh and he met this girl, they went for a weekend to Aviemore.
(PS2B2)	[1883] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1884] Camping [...] but they ran out of money so he wouldn't be able to see her till payday.
(PS2B2)	[laugh]
(PS2B4)	[1885] So that that was I mean he just had been paid so it was
(PS2B2)	[1886] Aha.
(PS2B4)	[1887] about four weeks I don't know whether how would that went down when he phoned her and told her [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1888] Aye.
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1889] He's twenty one.
(PS2B2)	[1890] Pardon?
(PS2B4)	[1891] Twenty two in January. [1892] He's just twenty one.
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1893] Wait I think [...]
(PS2B2)	[1894] Ah it doesn't matter it doesn't matter.
(PS2B4)	[1895] Twenty two. [1896] Oh no twenty two.
(PS2B2)	[1897] [...] .
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1898] And happy as ever.
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1899] How long is she in now?
(PS2B2)	[1900] Sometime this eight, nine, ten years. [1901] And as as it goes one she gets more and more permanent [...] . [1902] But she's she's still well I think she'd daft. [1903] She's in at the hostel at least an hour before she starts. [1904] She likes to sit and [...] cup of coffee. [1905] And when the shift's over, she sits another [...] . [1906] So she's hardly in the house and she'll be back again. [1907] You know [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1908] Wait how long's this stint of night duty?
(PS2B2)	[1909] Well that was at well that was [...] last time it it's normally seven or eight nights.
(PS2B4)	[1910] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1911] On the trot. [1912] And then you get two or three days off.
(PS2B4)	[1913] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1914] And the it's early.
(PS2B4)	[1915] Oh that's her back on to days [...]
(PS2B2)	[1916] [...] Yes aha.
(PS2B4)	[1917] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1918] But she seems to be doing night shift a lot recently.
(PS2B4)	[1919] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1920] Probably cos of staff shortages. [1921] Or somebody's not there [...] . [1922] Jeannette will you fi will you take night shift for [...] . ... [...] .
(PS2B4)	[laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1923] She likes being [...]
(PS2B4)	[1924] Well we've got X-ray staff [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1925] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1926] But that is [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1927] I can never remember I can never remember. [...]
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1928] Erm [...] four years.
(PS2B4)	[1929] Oh has she [...] . [...]
(PS2B2)	[1930] [...] seem all that long ago
(PS2B4)	[1931] It it was
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1932] if they're married two years. [1933] Mind you we've got loads of staff nurses [...] as well and they're not all made up to. [...]
(PS2B2)	[1934] Aye. [1935] Ah right.
(PS2B4)	[1936] I couldn't tell you what [...] . [1937] I'm sure it was a almost two years. [1938] Eighteen months. [1939] She got she qualified July or August. [1940] Well she she sat her finals.
(PS2B2)	[1941] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1942] And she started right away. [1943] On the ward.
(PS2B2)	[1944] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1945] And that was the that would be a year [...] . [1946] That'll be like four years this August. [1947] [...] . Very unusually for anybody to stay in that work for four years.
(PS2B2)	[1948] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1949] Usually [...] after a couple of years, [...]
(PS2B2)	[1950] Mhm.
(PS2B4)	[1951] But Jeannette seems to think everything will be very [...] . [...]
(PS2B2)	[1952] Oh I mean if she likes it, that's fine.
(PS2B4)	[1953] Oh she does. [1954] she does.
(PS2B2)	[1955] Well that's okay. ...
(PS2B4)	[...] ... [...]
(PS2B2)	[1956] Mm.
(PS2B4)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1957] Mhm. ...
(PS2B4)	[1958] She's acting up. [1959] [...] . You tell him, she said, Well why should I tell him? [...] [laugh]
(PS2B2)	[1960] Aye.
(PS2B4)	[1961] Apparently he's he's quite good tempered [...] .
(PS2B2)	[1962] Oh [laugh] ...
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1963] Who's Brian?
(PS2B2)	[1964] Jane's son.
(PS2B4)	[1965] Oh right.
(PS2B2)	[1966] Er and she's not [...] I think there's a few [...] I'm not sure. [1967] And apparently the man was a bit doolally pardon me [...] . [1968] So he she always to [...] .
Unknown speaker (G5JPSUNK)	[...]
(PS2B2)	[1969] But they changed their mind. [1970] Once she was qualified. [1971] They thought they would go abroad.
(PS2B4)	[1972] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1973] [...] So that's gone by the wayside. [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1974] Oh really. [1975] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1976] [...] .
(PS2B4)	[1977] Mm. [1978] Terraces? [1979] There's no terraces [...] .
(PS2B2)	[...]
(PS2B4)	[1980] Mhm.
(PS2B2)	[1981] [...] . [recording ends]