| PS2BG | Ag3 | m | (No name, age 35, general practitioner) unspecified |
| PS2BH | X | f | (No name, age unknown) unspecified |
| (PS2BH) |
[1] I've come of a new [...] |
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[2] please. |
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[3] Let's have a look. [4] This is the Noraday yeah . |
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[5] Noraday yeah. |
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[6] Everything okay on that? |
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[7] Yeah, fine yeah . |
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[8] Periods behaving? |
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[9] Erm sometimes I have a a good period, like |
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[10] Yeah. |
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[11] I used to on er |
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[12] Yeah. |
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[13] other pill. |
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[14] [...] yeah that's right. |
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[15] But sometimes I don't have one or |
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[16] Yeah. |
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[17] sometimes it's just one |
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[18] Yeah. |
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[19] day. |
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[20] Yeah, a bit erratic ? |
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[21] [...] Er Yeah. [22] But |
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[23] Right, okay. |
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[24] no problem at all. |
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[25] Yes , that can happen on Noraday Waterworks? [26] Bowels? [27] Breasts? |
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[28] Yeah fine. |
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[29] All behaving? |
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[30] Yes. |
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[31] Right, now what we do need to do today is to get your blood pressure checked. |
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[32] Yeah. |
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[33] How are things going on from the other point of view? |
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[34] Erm it get's |
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[35] Mm. |
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[36] a bit off still . |
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[37] Yes. |
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[38] Yeah. [39] we h we still haven't heard anything. |
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[40] From the psychologist? |
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[41] Er no, [...] go to see him . |
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[42] [...] you've you've got from them, certainly. |
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[43] Yeah. [44] Yeah. |
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[45] But you're still in limbo as far as the |
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[46] Yeah. |
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[47] the civil action is concerned? |
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[48] Erm even no second inquest, nothing . |
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[49] Oh. [...] |
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[50] But er apparently [...] got a solicitor. [51] Er we haven't had to see anybody about that and he sent us a letter saying that he'd like to see us and we went and he says it there might not be a second inquest. |
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[52] Oh. |
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[53] Might go straight to court. |
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[54] Ah. |
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[55] And then we had a phone call from the police, about a month ago. |
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[56] Oh right, good. |
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[57] Saying that it had gone straight to court, it was in court, you know, |
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[58] Oh right. |
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[59] but we haven't heard anything. |
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[60] Oh well I mean they may have been adjourned or a |
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[61] Even though |
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[62] it may have been referred to a higher court. |
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[63] You think so. |
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[64] Erm |
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[65] I mean we we haven't heard anything directly, I'm only glad that the police are actually telling you something. |
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[66] Yeah yeah. |
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[67] It it was a big shock that day, when we had that phone call |
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[68] Mm. |
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[69] But it was I You know, to know that you haven't got to fight, |
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[70] That's right, yeah . |
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[71] T to take him to court. |
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[72] Erm |
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[73] But it's a long process. [74] I mean we have dealings with solicitors for all sorts of things, asking for reports and we send a lot of notes away to have a lot of er [...] medical opinion reports and they take ages to come back. [75] And that's a These are the preliminary things that the solicitor must go through before they get near court, so |
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[76] Yeah. |
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[77] the people |
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[78] Yeah. |
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[79] who it's actually They're actually dealing with are waiting months and months and months and er |
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[80] Yeah. |
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[81] it looks like that in your case. [82] We |
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[83] we may well have to provide the medical report on your behalf, yet. |
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[84] God. |
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[85] But n no-one has approached me to do so. |
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[86] No no. |
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[87] So er But it wouldn't surprise me if some sort of medical report on how you are doesn't reach court. |
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[88] It erm Mr who we see Psychologist erm The first week I went to see him, Oh [...] . [89] It t d [...] certainly, you know erm |
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[90] Yeah. [91] It's very |
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[92] Erm |
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[93] hard. |
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[94] We Do you know when we start doing something, we'll do it and even if we do things different [...] gonna say? [95] We thinking well why are we doing it this way ? |
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[96] Mm. |
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[97] So er everything's pulling at us, |
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[98] Yeah. |
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[99] you know. [100] W we seem as though we do something and we [...] W we are absolutely drained , |
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[101] Mm. |
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[102] you get We want to push ourselves. |
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[103] That's right. |
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[104] But do you know, once we start doing something w we're just drained all the while. |
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[105] In some ways you're in limbo cos you've you've got nothing to aim towards. [106] You've |
| (PS2BH) |
[107] No. |
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[108] got I mean if Even if you had a date to aim towards, even if it was six months hence, at least that would help you, you could |
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[109] Yeah. |
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[110] aim towards it and work towards it. |
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[111] Yeah. |
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[112] But er and I think it's most unfair on you two really and the whole thing. [113] And you you come off worse than anyone else and er but there's no real way of speeding that up, they can't give |
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[114] No. |
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[115] dates and they can't say what's going to happens [...] they have to go through, sift the evidence, arrange it all in a certain order, |
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[116] and then go and |
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[117] Rachael, she's coming home Well she was she was discharged Friday from hospital . |
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[118] Mm. [119] Oh right. |
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[120] And er they thought Thursday they'd have to do an operation on her by taking a piece of bone from her hip, |
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[121] Mhm. |
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[122] and putting it in the leg. [123] But they said it was knitting together lovely. |
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[124] Good good. |
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[125] But then they took the pins out, |
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[126] Ah. |
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[127] let her go home Friday, discharged her the day after. [128] She'd put too much weight on it, and she's back in hospital, she's broke it. |
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[129] Well they'll probably have to put at least the bone in there, it's a bone graft. |
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[130] They've put it in plaster at the moment . |
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[131] Yeah, [...] |
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[132] But s you know she she's mending, it's erm |
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[133] She she's coming okay, I think |
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[134] Mm. |
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[135] You know to see her as well, that's som you know |
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[136] Mm. |
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[137] But we don't go as often now. |
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[138] No. |
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[139] Erm, [...] ... |
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[140] Right. |
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[141] Lovely, and |
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[142] [...] Th The six packets of Noraday |
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[143] Yeah, yeah. |
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[144] [cough] Your smear is due in December. [145] Now I'm going to leave that with you. [146] If you really don't feel like coming up for a smear at that time, that's fine and we'll understand why. [147] And w There's an awful lot |
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[148] Yeah. |
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[149] of pressure on you from an awful lot of other sources, so don't worry about it. [150] And |
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[151] Yeah. |
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[152] But er you are |
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[153] actually officially due in December and obviously we'd like |
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[154] Is that me three years? |
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[155] Yeah. |
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[156] Yeah. |
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[157] [cough] We'd like |
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[158] Yeah. |
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[159] to get that done. |
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[160] Yeah. [161] Don't seem like three years. [laugh] |
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[162] Oh, no I'm sure. [163] The psychologist of course will continue to see you. [164] And if |
| (PS2BH) |
[165] Yeah. |
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[166] you want to pop in and have a chat with me in between that's fine, but I'm not here next week. |
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[167] Yeah, yeah. [...] |
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[168] [...] So that's that. [169] Er and I hope everything goes a smoothly as possible. [170] If there are any medical reports to do, we'll get them done as soon as possible but you know,a is that's very much out of our hands, and |
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[171] Yeah. |
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[172] we can only wait on your solicitors, their solicitors, there's the police, the court, the entire system. |
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[173] You see we haven't notified any solicitor at all, it was |
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[174] No. |
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[175] just when we got back off holiday we'd got a letter from |
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[176] Well it's If the police are doing the prosecuting then you may |
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[177] Yeah. |
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[178] not have to bother [...] |
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[179] Well it it Apparently there is a clause in Lee's insurance er that got the solicitor, |
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[180] Yeah. |
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[181] and he notified us |
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[182] Right. |
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[183] and he said he would b represent. [184] But then he mentioned, when we wen to see him, he says [...] we will deal with this but you must get somebody for civil |
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[185] Yeah. |
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[186] action. |
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[187] Yeah. |
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[188] And we asked him if he did civil action . |
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[189] Oh right , yeah. |
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[190] And he said yes he'd |
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[191] Mm. |
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[192] he would You know he hasn't g The records haven't got to be released then to |
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[193] No. |
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[194] anybody else. [195] he he will be able to get them. [196] But it's just hoping that everything goes right, but at least we |
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[197] haven't got to fight for prosecution. |
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[198] No no. [199] That should go through, but er it's a question of when it's going to be though. [...] |
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[200] Yeah, yeah. [201] Do they usually take time like this? |
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[202] Yes. |
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[203] Yeah. |
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[204] Yes. [205] Things from er data whenever can take ages and ages and ages to And you know doctors get sued every now and again, perish the thought, |
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[206] [laughing] Oh [...] [] |
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[207] Perish the thought but when |
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[208] y w you when you keep hearing reports in the medical journals about doctors being sued, and it can be several years after the event that the case comes to court. [209] Now it won't be that long in your case, but it just goes to show how lengthy the whole thing can be . |
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[210] Yea yeah yeah. |
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[211] And it's er |
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[212] But it's so |
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[213] But |
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[214] much hurt, you know . |
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[215] That's right. |
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[216] [...] but Pete he he still getting up very early, he doesn't sleep |
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[217] Mm. |
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[218] very good . |
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[219] Yeah. [220] Yeah. [221] I mean in some ways |
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[222] And |
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[223] I think he's more effected by it than you. [224] And [...] |
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[225] I Like erm Psychologist said erm |
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[226] there's a lot of anger there isn't there? |
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[227] Yeah. [228] He says I'm still with denial, |
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[229] Yeah. |
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[230] and Pete knows it's happened. |
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[231] Mm. |
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[232] I erm If i try not to give way, it leaves so much up here |
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[233] Mm. |
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[234] I can keep thinking it's not happened. |
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[235] Yeah. [236] That's right. [237] But |
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[238] You know. [239] But |
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[240] wor working through it all, it's very very painful. |
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[241] Yeah. |
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[242] And it's easier in the short term not to have [...] In the long term you get more problems. |
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[243] Yea yeah. [244] I I've found that. [245] You know, like I say, I try to do some things different, and then that don't work sometimes cos I think well why am I doing 'em like that. |
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[246] Mm. |
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[247] I wouldn't be doing this if it hadn't happened. [248] Do you do you |
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[249] Mhm. |
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[250] Do you now what I mean? [251] [sniff] So like you say it can cause [...] |
| (PS2BG) | [cough] |
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[252] that few more problems. [253] But erm probably if we wasn't [...] so much and |
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[254] Mm. [255] I think he 'd be [...] |
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[256] I think sometimes he's still being protective. |
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[257] Yeah. |
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[258] He's still being protective . |
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[259] Mm. [260] That's right. |
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[261] And erm Dunno. [262] The police i know, went to see Rachael, and they still can't understand why he didn't use an islander, you know? |
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[263] No. |
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[264] And it's just unbelievable. |
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[265] Mm. |
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[266] But everybody's allowed a mistake but |
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[267] when you've got a big articulated lorry , |
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[268] Bit of drastic mistake to make. |
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[269] You know if you You know I can't stop feeling as though that morning he used that lorry as a weapon. |
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[270] Mm. |
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[271] You know. [272] Er I don't [...] I think as it goes on y you do start and get that anger that anger so bad, but erm But I'll leave you to get on Doctor. [laugh] |
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[273] And [...] [tape change] |