| PS3MG | Ag4 | m | (Bert, age 50+, draughtsman) unspecified |
| PS3MH | Ag1 | f | (No name, age 21+, housewife) unspecified |
| PS3MJ | Ag1 | f | (Emily, age 21+, housewife) unspecified |
| PS3MK | Ag3 | m | (Robert, age 35, factory worker) unspecified |
| PS3ML | X | m | (Bill, age unknown, retired) unspecified |
| J3NPSUNK (respondent W0000) | X | u | (Unknown speaker, age unknown) other |
| J3NPSUGP (respondent W000M) | X | u | (Group of unknown speakers, age unknown) other |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[1] Good evening ladies and gentleman. |
| (PS3MH) |
[2] Good evening, Bert. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[3] Thanks for coming along tonight ... as you see ... we have our ... A G M tonight ... and er ... hope er ... to see a lot more faces here tonight ... [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[4] [...] his car broke down. |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[5] Oh apologies from Brian ... his car broke down. |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[6] Oh well ... [...] . |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[7] Jack should be here. [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[8] [...] er ... Brian W ... Val ... anybody else? [9] I think people shy off the A G M, [...] because they're frightened of getting jobs on the committee. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[10] Right then ... could we have the minutes from the previous A G M, please. |
| (PS3MH) |
[11] The minutes of the annual general meeting held at [...] Labour Club ... on Monday the seventh of December ... nineteen ninety two. [12] There were thirteen members present, [...] in the chair ... apology er apologies from Joe and Emily ... and Robert who were injured in a car crash on the way here. [13] Minutes of the A G M on the second of December nineteen ninety one were read ... proposed Jack ... and seconded ... [...] ... that they be accepted. [14] All in favour ... there were none against ... and no abstentions. [15] Matters arising ... there were no matters arising ... unusually. [16] Secretary's report ... the secretary thanked Joan and Reg for the club during the year ... especially for donating items for the open show for the [...] and Christmas social. [17] It was a very hard job holding everything together ... and it required tremendous dedication from everyone concerned. [18] Difficulties had arisen over the Globe Hotel in February last year ... and we have been forced to move yet again. [19] We were once more experiencing difficulties ... hopefully ... they would all be [...] out before too long. [20] We hadn't managed to get any speakers this year ... but had all enjoyed the previous meeting in Oc in October. [21] There had been a trip to Yorkshire in April ... and another to the British Aquarist Festival ... in November, both of which had been enjoyed by all. [22] This concluded the secretary's report. [23] Brian proposed ... Wilf seconded that the be, the, seconded that the report be accepted ... all in favour, there were none against and no abstentions. [24] Show secretary's report ... in the show secretary's absence ... due to the accident ... on route tonight ... the chairman said ... Mrs had done a fantastic job over the year ... and he wished to record his thanks to her. [25] The fish on the bench have increased over the year ... and he asked everyone to bring out just one fish ... every meeting. [26] The secretary would phone to find out if they were alright ... after the accident and if nec necessary ... contact the chairman. [27] Treasurer's report ... the balance sheets were circulated to all and the treasurer went through each item ... of expenditure, explaining in detail. [28] There was a healthy balance ... for nineteen ninety three ... and this was mainly due to members supporting raffles ... and the fact that we have not put the show stand off ... at the British Aquarist Festival for a couple of years. [29] This had built up the present balance to what it now was. [30] Mr proposed [...] seconded that the report be accepted. [31] All in favour ... none against and no abstentions. [32] This concluded the reports. [33] There was no librarian's report ... due to Mr being absent. [34] The chairman thanked all those who had worked hard and tirelessly over the last year ... for the benefit of the club and its members. [35] Election of the committee. [36] Now I don't propose to go through ... erm the proposers and seconders, I shall just go through ... the nominees ... er ... and there was no opposition. [37] So ... er presumably ... er you understand that it was, they were all elected. [38] The chairman ... Peter ... vice chairman, Bill ... [...] secretary, H ... [...] treasurer ... A B ... show secretary, E ... assistant show secretary, R ... librarian, Jane ... committee ... J ... M ... W ... and J . [39] All these members were elected unanimously and unopposed. [40] Now, any other business. [41] We were asked to try to arrange an inter-club table show ... with Hulton Aquarist Society. [42] The secretary would approach the Hulton secretary. [43] The treasurer asked if we could make an early start to the meetings ... eight P M prompt. [44] It looked very bad when we advertised an eight P M start ... and if ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[45] if you members came along ... there was only two or three people here at eight P M. [46] This concluded the business of the A G M ... and the chairman closed the, the meeting at ten ten ... ten past ten. [47] Other club business ... social evening on Monday the twenty first of December ... Mr would donate egg and cress sandwiches ... B W would donate cheese ... cheese and onion ... Wilf would donate boiled ham. [48] Secretary would arrange chicken pieces ... pork pies ... sausage rolls, sausages on sticks ... cheese and onion ... and cheese and pineapple on sticks ... and would also donate mince pies. [49] Jack ... may be able to donate some scones ... we would have bingo ... a knock-out [...] competition and the whisky roll ... plus a raffle. [50] Prizes required please. [51] There was no further business ... the chairman closed the meeting at ten forty P M. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[52] Any matters arising from those minutes? [53] No matters arising? |
| (PS3MH) |
[54] Can we have a proposer and seconder, please? |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[55] Yes is there a proposer? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] [someone mumbling in background] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[56] And a seconder? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[57] Seconded. [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] [laugh] [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[58] I haven't got a [...] [laugh] you don't give me one! |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [laugh] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[59] [...] I'll give you er ... give you an extra cup of tea at supper time. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [laugh] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[60] Thank you. [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[61] Oh ... hang on a minute, the secretary can go first. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[62] Oh matters arising. [63] [...] there's none arising. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[64] No ... correct. [65] No matters arising. |
| (PS3MH) |
[66] No. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[67] [...] propose ... second ... [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[68] Yeah but Joe ... Joe proposed |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[69] Yeah we've done that bit ... we've done that bit |
| (PS3MH) |
[70] and Brian seconded [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[71] we've done that bit |
| (PS3MH) |
[72] now we're on to matters arising. [73] Yeah ... minutes of the previous A G M proposed and seconded, right? [74] Matters arising proposed and seconded that they be accepted [...] recommendations |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[75] Yeah ... no no, because there was no matters arising. [76] Just put that on so you can [...] proposing and seconding [...] . |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[77] Confusing, isn't it? |
| (PS3MH) |
[78] No, not really! [laugh] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[79] Right ... |
| (PS3MH) |
[80] Secretary's report |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[81] Can we have the secretary's report. |
| (PS3MH) |
[82] Yeah. [83] Erm ... secretary's report, it's much the same as last year ... er, we had two trips ... this year ... two coach trips ... one to the Yorkshire Aquarist Festival in Ap was it April? [84] I think it was April, wasn't it? [85] And one to the British Aquarist Festival in October. [86] They were both enjoyable ... erm ... I can't really say which I enjoyed the most ... er, I thought they were both very good ... and of course good value for the money ... because they don't charge very much for the fares ... well I don't think they do. [87] Erm ... then we had the ... three-way inter-club ... table show ... with Hulton ... and Skelmersdale and St Helens ... erm ... the first one was ... St Helens ... and that was the only [...] wasn't it, about April ... and we won that ... we, we ... it was a whitewash really, wasn't it? [88] Erm ... then we had one at Sk Hulton in July ... and we won that ... er, not quite as much of a whitewash was it? [89] Nevertheless we won handsomely. [90] And the third one was at Skelm ... |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[91] Which was not organized because we don't know anyone [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[92] which was [...] ... we don't know who won ... we don't know what the score was but we think that [...] ... but we're, we're assuming that that's because they bring out all their secret showmen ... who don't sh travel ... they have a little core, hard core of [...] that don't travel ... but they, they bring them out ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[93] they bring them out at their own table shows and, and it's ... [...] |
| Robert (PS3MK) |
[94] Appropriate that we should [...] that much [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[95] Well that appears to be so [...] . [96] I never cared for results ... never cared for results at all. [97] Robert is [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[98] We never saw a fish either. |
| (PS3MH) |
[99] No. [100] I don't think erm ... on reflection, I don't think that a three-way table show is a good thing. [101] I would prefer to see an inter-club with Skelm and an inter-club with Hulton I think they get too big, two clubs is too difficult to organize when there's three ... cos you, you're getting ... it's not [...] , it's the |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[102] It's not that ... [...] the show secretary was er ... at [...] club ... had not done his job. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[103] At Skelmersdale? |
| (PS3MH) |
[104] Yeah. [105] I mean he's in the auction when he should be with them ... writing the labels. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[106] Yeah. [107] Yes ... I mean it doesn't go down well and I'll ... say the things you have to do when you when you're helping to run a club, you have to commit yourself to the club and you have to do the jobs that th presented by the club. [108] I mean I date mine, er well I don't date 'em I ... I sign the cards at home and do all that at home before I go ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[109] That's right. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[110] and then when I come here I've just got to date ... what fish is on the bench. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[111] That's right. |
| (PS3MH) |
[112] And it cuts down the work then. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[113] The way he's doing this ... is there's [...] they can go. |
| (PS3MH) |
[114] Well that's no use is it? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[115] That's no use. [116] I know they were still judging after midnight ... and that's no good really ... no good at all on a working week. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[117] When we got there we had to [...] species of fish ... and then take it out and [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[118] Yeah ... yeah. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[119] It's a good idea ... it's a good idea in principle ... but, but it's not a workable proposition when you've over a hundred fish ... and there's evening ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[120] Yes. |
| (PS3MH) |
[121] she hasn't got enough time ... |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[122] [...] one of the [...] didn't come till nearly quarter past ten. |
| (PS3MH) |
[123] Yeah ... yeah. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[124] I think it er, on reflection I think er I would discourage ... members from having a three-way table show ... I like the, the one-off ... you know, one against one ... because it works better |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] ... |
| (PS3MH) |
[125] yeah. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[126] I think it works better. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[127] Yeah. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[128] Yes of course yeah, but the, you know, we, we have to, I have to make a report and I have to recommend ... so I'm recommending ... that we forget about the three-way stuff. [129] Er, we had a breeders' meeting in October which was ... I enjoy them very much, I enjoy the ... the talk because it's the first chance I get during the year when I can sit down and listen ... and I don't have to worry about them generally, in another club, I don't have to worry about minutes or anything, I just sit and listen and it's great ... it, I really enjoy that. [130] [cough] Meetings ... once again I have to say ... the old, old ... chestnut ... please can we start at eight o' clock ... er we're getting new members who ... get a bit discouraged when we have a late start. [131] I know it isn't easy ... but erm ... I think we should ... you know, try and we ... advertise starting at eight o'clock ... and very often there's only Alan and I here at eight. [132] So if we could all try our best to get here at eight o' clock. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[133] Particularly when we're trying to get juveniles into the club ... I mean they want to go at ten possibly ... you owe them [...] not starting till |
| (PS3MH) |
[134] Yeah ... yeah. [135] It's very difficult to |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[136] nine there's nothing, you know ... they'll get discouraged. |
| (PS3MH) |
[137] So you [...] John now ... Jonathan ... he's only fifteen, I know he looks in his twenties, but he's only fifteen and he's done a lot of homework ... so it makes him ... late and it makes him uncomfortable and he's fidgety because he ... knows he's got to disturb us when he goes out, he doesn't ... doesn't enjoy disturbing us, so ... I have to make that clear to you. [138] Erm ... again i er the old story, we can't get speakers on a Monday and [...] better luck in last year ... this year, sorry ... er ... I was able to get Danny ... but there again he came very expensive ... erm ... but we brought, we had to bring him from Lancaster so ... er, you can't expect him to come for nothing. [139] So ... erm ... and another thing I was going to suggest ... [cough] ... erm ... I need help really ... erm ... for the meetings, I need somebody who will help, a social secretary say ... somebody who will help with the raffles ... and somebody who will organize meetings, what's going on at meetings ... because it's getting, the job is getting most difficult ... and I work part-time and it's, it's, I'm not getting any younger ... and I'm finding it a struggle to try and get everything fixed, the raffles and the ... what's going on and ... everything organized, so if you, if you ... if you could see the way clear, perhaps we could create a ... social secretary or an assistant secretary where we could have ... somebody who can give a hand with the organization of the meetings ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[140] Just to get things like slide shows or erm ... videos and things, you know, that's how we're gonna [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[141] organizing the raffles ... just to get things like slide shows organized ... videos organized ... just a little bit of help. [142] Will you? [143] Thank you, Robert. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[144] Yes. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[145] So if we make a list of what we've got [...] when you have a video night, if you or, or somebody else has the video ... list, you can say, well if you bring them back [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[146] That's right ... and we, Brian had the club slides ... which he very kindly handed over to us ... when he, he, he felt it became difficult for him ... to cope with it ... erm ... cos his dad's not well. [147] We have the club slides in our house ... so that you know ... really whoever takes over organizing the meeting should really have those and ... they're all sorted out in order so ... it's just a case of diving in the bag and looking for ... whatever you want, ever the ... I always try to bring some fish ... to look at, to the ... the scr to the screen ... erm ... some of the fish that were on show on the table for that particular sh er in erm ... table show ... because I think it shows interest and to learn more about the fish ... and it's always ... nice when somebody else knows a lot more about the ... particular species than you do, and i is able to tell you [...] ... quirks and fancies that they have. [148] So I always try to do that but I, I, again I find that ... it's very erm ... very tiring and it's very, gets very ... can get very involved with it, so I would like ... us, I'd like you to think of the idea of a social secretary ... to help with the raffles and organizing what's going on at the meetings ... please. [149] Erm ... and that's about all I have to say, Mr Chairman. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[150] [...] need a proposer [...] . |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[151] I keep losing me place. |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[152] I'll have put me [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[153] [...] I know it's, it's not ... not [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[154] [...] ... and the report from the treasurer ... can we have your report, please? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[155] This is what everyone's been waiting for. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [laugh] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[156] [...] have the er ... figures in front of you ... of our ... progress during the last twelve months ... you will no doubt see that we are in a very ... nice ... financial position ... er only a pound and a penny off that magic thousand pound in ... in the club now. [157] Erm ... during the year we've made about ... er two hundred and ... two hundred and twenty odd pounds. [158] Er ... it's not due to my ... expertise at all, it's just mainly due to the fact we don't go to shows these days ... we've always ... in the good old days when we used to go to shows we spent probably a hundred and thirty to two hundred pounds a year so we never had very much money ... as we don't go to these shows and spend this money it is ... it is a it is accumulating each year. [159] Erm ... I'll go through, roughly through the accounts in case anybody's not quite clear what it's all about. [160] Er ... [cough] we started off with seven hundred and seventy five pounds, seventy six, at the beginning of the year ... er ... the membership is only thirty seven, we have fewer members but er ... that's a very small proportion of our income. [161] Four pound for visitors [...] only seem to come and then disappear ... not many of them seem to join us. [162] Erm ... because of a social evening er we had a raffle and a whiskey bowl ... I think the purists might not like the E in whiskey but that's the way it's been done ... that must be the southern way. [163] Erm ... [clears throat] ... right the Yorkshire Aquarist Festival we had a coach ... two ninety three pound on the coach ... and a raffle ... a hundred and six pound ... erm ... on the inter-club ... we had a fourteen pound twenty five entry and we had a raffle, twenty nine twenty five, making forty three pound fifty. [164] Yorkshire was quite a ... success this year, we made a lot of money o on the income side ... er sixty two pound for entries ... ninety one pound ten for refreshments ... hundred and nine forty for the raffle, our ... kind and thanks to ... Bert |
| (PS3MH) |
[165] Thanks to Bert [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[166] [...] it says here. [laugh] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[167] [...] for breaking the record for four minute mile. [168] The tombola ... thirty nine [...] again ... thanks to Bill for breaking the records. [169] Five hundred and fifty pound and sponsorship ... coming from the members of course fifty three pound fifty. [170] All our ... w most of our money does come from ... the members themselves as you've seen. [171] Er ... the er ... the breeders' evening ... now what happened on this breeders' evening is that the ... they run the raffle ... then give us our expenses out of it ... so that eleven ... pound eighty is the is the part of the ... raffle proceeds which we need ... to, to e to er ... for our expenses, you'll see on the other side ... erm ... that we spent that eleven eighty, six ... eighty for ... er refreshments and five pound for the rent. [172] Er, the rest of it they take ... for the er ... to keep the breeders' [...] going ... keep [...] . [173] Erm |
| (PS3MH) |
[174] [...] oh yes ... excellent. |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[175] er ... the [...] coach to er ... to er ... Bowness ... on the bus we took thirty nine pound ... erm ... with [...] discount from last year ... people who er bought some last Christmas ... we made twenty three pound on that [...] ... the library, only thirty pence ... course, we've had trouble with the library because ... we can't leave it here now ... and er ... so that's why it's s so low the, the income. [176] Er six twenty for the sale of badges ... fancy some of that was from a previous year. |
| (PS3MH) |
[177] Yes it was ... it was. [178] I forgot about the sale of badges last year ... [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[179] [...] that's probably two years actually er ... income from that. [180] [...] sales [...] that were left over from the open show, three pound thirty ... fourteen pound ten for the [...] collection, now that is ... as you see, that is over from last year ... last year the table show [...] ... so we actually have double the number of entries on the bench this year ... which is a healthy sign ... |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[181] Really ... that |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[182] and er ... hopefully ... if we can only just bring enough fish each and every time ... erm we'll even get it higher. [183] Now as you can see, our main income is our raffles ... two hundred and sixty pound, that is an increase of ... ooh ... seventy five pound on last year. [184] Paid a hundred and eighty five last, two hundred and sixty this year. [185] Er ... I'd just like to thank everybody for their generosity ... for taking part so [...] . [186] Erm ... we're trying to have beer put on ... the price each time now to make it worthwhile ... so you get a chance of getting your money back. [187] Right that makes a total of seventeen eighty six, sixty one ... over the year. [188] Erm, right on the expenditure side we have our normal subscriptions for the year, A S ... erm the F B A S ... which you all know, there's no strangers here who don't know what these are ... the A L A ... and the Whale and Dolphin er ... Preservation Society which we have taken on as a personal thing ... in the, in the er ... name of the club ... because it's cheaper ... |
| (PS3MH) |
[189] No, it's in my name. |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[190] It's in your name but it's on behalf of the club. |
| (PS3MH) |
[191] It's on behalf of the club, yeah. |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[192] Because the ... the, the club one's getting rather expensive ... so we ... yeah |
| (PS3MH) |
[193] Eighteen pounds. |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[194] so we decided to join that for this year. [195] The rent for the club room er five pound per go, a hundred and fifteen pound ... erm the Christmas social, we spent fif thirty five fifty one on the refreshments and seven eighty nine on the whisky, making a forty three forty expenditure ... the club trophies, we spent nineteen pound fifty this year and we saved a lot of money on that this year, we spent about a hundred and thirty to forty last year ... erm so we have got a ... quite a difference ... just trying to find last year's ... erm ... there they are ... trophies, a hundred and sixteen pound we paid last year ... so have, we did save a lot of money by doing them ourselves more or less. [196] Erm ... the inter-club show erm ... we had to pay judges ... er ... two of them ... thirty pound, we would normally have got Keith for nothing, I know that ... [clears throat] we had two judges so we had to pay them ... er we did like [...] so that's two fifty pounds and we bought some ... we had some old trophies which we were able to buy plates for ... to use for that event. [197] Erm ... postage and stationery eight forty four ... raffle tickets ... ten thirty eight ... raffle prizes, sixteen twenty four, [...] if I'm short. [198] Erm ... table show judges, we had a table at the beginning of the year when we had the gentleman from Runcorn, what's his name? |
| (PS3MH) |
[199] Paul. |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[200] Paul came to ... came to judge ... erm ... er that's the only time we've had a judge. [201] Er ... hundred and forty pound for the coach to Yorkshire ... which we got ... on the other side, a hundred and six pound back so the ... club ... er ... sponsored that, a hundred and thirty four pound, and thirty four pound. [202] Erm [clears throat] ... right the open show ... fifty nine ninety five for the hire of the hall, much the same as last year, it's keeping pretty well down ... er, it's, we paid fifty three eighty last year, but I think because ... little bit for a longer time this year. [203] Erm ... the judges, seventy five ... er ... and that's ten pound less than last year, maybe because we're struggling to get judges ... forty two pound for the trophies ... erm ... [clears throat] ... er, fifteen pound for the fish tank ... and plates at seventy five forty seven, crisps, eight seventy eight, which we struggled to sell ... we think you could sell crisps but we had a struggle. [204] Postage, stationery, fourteen O six ... raffle tickets, eleven pound, making a total of two thirty twenty six ... as against on the other side the income, three ninety six ... so we made a hundred and sixty six pound on ... on the open show ... which is a great ... increase on last year because last year we only made ... twelve pounds something ... twelve pound and a penny we made last year, so this is a great increase. [205] [...] the coach to [...] ... the breeders' evening ... that's what I mentioned before, we paid for the refreshments and the rent ... show secretary has only claimed two pounds which is a scandal really ... she's probably paid twenty out, twenty pounds |
| (PS3MH) |
[206] Yeah ... I think so cos she's sitting here smiling. [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[207] So Joe doesn't get so many mushy peas. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[208] Er ... champion of champions ... we've, I bought some prizes for the champion of champions, and food ... er ... just to go with the trophies ... er Keith again was our judge and erm ... knowing that he doesn't ... willingly accept money, he wants to come and do it for nothing ... erm ... how many proposed that we ... buy him something ... a bottle to take with him, so we bought him a bottle of wine to take with him and er ... that was the three pound. [209] So that gives us a total ... expenditure of seven eighty seven sixty two for the year ... and that leaves us with a balance ... er of the year and that's nine ninety eight ninety nine pence. [210] So we're exceedingly well off really ... for the size of the club ... and my trip to ... Amazon, up the Amazon collecting fish gets nearer and nearer |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[211] Gets nearer every day [laugh] You wouldn't get |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[212] Erm |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[213] very far on a thousand pound though, would you? [laugh] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[214] Well as I say ... I mean we're doing very well ... and all the money ... and, and you know, ninety percent of the money comes out of the ... the er ... the members' pockets really ... I mean ev even the sub for the open show, we put out a lot of that ... even ... the stuff [...] and things like this, so we do provide an awful lot of money. [215] Er ... we haven't used very much of it this year ... I mean I think er ... I mentioned a few weeks ago the, the ... question of trips out ... perhaps in the spring to do fish [...] and that, we could consider ... er ... we don't want to just go er ... accumulating money for the sake of it ... erm, we want to get some benefit out of the money we've got. [216] Erm ... we may of course go to ... Bowness next year ... if the circumstances change and we can manage it ... that will course cost a fair amount of money ... but that remains to be seen, we'll have to wait and see how the club progresses during the year ... whether we think we can do it [...] . [217] Right, any questions? [218] ... No? |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[219] We don't [...] them. [laugh] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[220] We don't [...] with thousand pound in his back pocket ... can't be bad. |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[221] It's coming to the stage soon when we'll have to put it in a building society, get some interest on it. [222] I mean ... sh shame in the banks ... I mean we don't get charges any charges from this bank, I mean if, if you er ... put it in some banks you get interest ... charge you on your cheques and all sorts of things, it, it's as broad as it's long usually ... but er ... I mean we are gonna accumulate money, I don't think we should accumulate very much more now, we, we've ample funds for everything we need ... er ... but it's a question |
| (PS3MH) |
[223] But it's just lying in the bank dormant and it's not making any interest ... I know it's not being, I know we're not being charged but ... |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[224] Trouble is [...] |
| (PS3MH) | [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[225] building society, I don't know [...] they do it. |
| (PS3MH) |
[226] Maybe you could ... the only way we could do it is ... er a joint account ... and that would be have to be based on trust ... you know, a mutual trust between er y your two main people ... er y you would just have to trust them ... erm ... nobody, how do members feel about if you ... |
| Emily (PS3MJ) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[227] That's true. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[228] Well it's a [...] and stuff like that, I mean ... [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[229] But I mean I |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[230] the reason I propose ... giving ... [...] he has to do is come [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[231] It's embarrassing. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[232] and sometimes he, he, he feels it be putting on those [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[233] Yes ... yes ... and he's such a nice man and he does it so willingly if he can. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[234] That's why he's ... [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[235] Yes. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[236] Oh, I'll have one off him, yeah |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[237] when it's done like, you know it's going [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[238] Oh yes, I'll have one him. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[239] Yeah, he's doing it. |
| (PS3MH) |
[240] Yes ... yes. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[241] We are struggling with judges aren't we? [242] And what about, you know [...] about the judges, don't you? |
| (PS3MH) |
[243] Yes, but it doesn't [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[244] [...] I just mentioned it er ... we have we have had a suggestion from B class judges ... [...] ... that er ... that the B class judges can show at er ... an, an open show ... providing, providing they declare beforehand [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[245] Providing they declare their interests ... [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[246] it is what I've always thought for a long time that ... somebody like Brian ... if he's not ... if he's not showing at our fish ... at our show, even as an A class judge, I, I ... fail to see why he can't ... judge at our show ... it's, he goes to Skelm and, and judges there and our fish will be there or ... [...] ... strange really when we're struggling for judges that, that we don't do these things. |
| (PS3MH) |
[247] Yeah, but we're looking at the financial side, aren't we really? [248] [laughing] W with Brian [...] [] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[249] Well I know ... I mean it ... we're struggling to get judges, aren't we, and it's not going to get any better, it's going |
| (PS3MH) |
[250] No. |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[251] to get worse if anything, not better ... the way things are going. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[252] We're obviously [...] obviously ... thinking along these lines [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[253] Is there? |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[254] He, he was ... [...] apparently ... and then ... on the Saturday or Sunday h h he, he [...] started to reject so he had to go back in. |
| (PS3MH) |
[255] Oh. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[256] Yeah. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[257] Where did he used to live? [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[258] Yes. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[259] [...] Where was he from? |
| Emily (PS3MJ) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[260] So all, all the A class judges are getting a little bit long in the tooth now [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bill (PS3ML) |
[261] No more questions? [262] No one, no more questions? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[263] I'd like er ... to thank Alan ... for being involved ... erm ... a proposer and seconder? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[264] Proposed by ... Steve ... seconded by ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[265] Right er ... [...] please ... can we have your report please. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[266] Well it's not much, I mean [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[267] You would like to see more [...] on the tables [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [laugh] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[268] Well we have had more fish out ... yeah ... we have had more fish out [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[269] [...] in the show [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[270] Pardon? |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[271] Where did we come in the show [...] ? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[272] Ninth |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[273] Ninth |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[274] Ninth |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[275] [...] that wasn't too bad. |
| (PS3MH) |
[276] I shall put in the report must do better! |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [laugh] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[277] [...] do better! |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [laugh] |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[278] [...] we do want more fish out. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[279] [...] any comment about ... the s ... the sort of format of the table show ... do we want to change them at all |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[280] How, how did it work out on the champion of champions night with having the ... the table show, the full table show that we cancelled when Danny came ... er how did it work er did it work out comfortably? |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[281] Oh yeah [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[282] Er I felt, I've been after Danny for nearly twelve months to come see ... and not been able to get him on the night I want him ... the only night he was able, was available was ... I think it was one night when we had something else on ... I can't remember what it was. [283] Erm ... I think it was an inter-club actually, oh the inter-club table show [...] was the only night he could manage and that was no good to us ... so erm ... we, we ... the only way we could do it was to t bring him the night that there was a full table show ... transfer the full table show to the champion of champions ... judge that first ... and put the winning fish into the champion of champions and I know, well it's gonna be ... woof ... you know ... a rush and that will, oh well, never mind. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[284] Least we knew we'd get some extra fish didn't we? [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[285] [...] yeah it's good that they had a fairer chance of getting on to the tables [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[286] [...] twenty minutes [laugh] |
| (PS3MH) |
[287] So erm I'm ... you kn I don't propose to do that again because I wouldn't er ... I wouldn't arrange a speaker if we had a full table show but ... it's nice to know that it did work out because we were, I was forced into a corner a little bit ... erm and I think it was worth it because we ... as I say I've waited a long time for Danny and he was well worth ... listening to, I can listen to Danny for hours because he ... he just speaks ... and, and tells you about his fish, I'm, I'm very ... very fond of listening to Danny cos I think he gives a good talk. [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[288] he has ... he ... the same problems that we've all had ... you know erm ... and yes he's, he's, he's very easy to listen to ... despite the fact that he's a southerner. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [laugh] |
| (PS3MH) |
[289] But we'll forgive him that [laugh] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[290] He comes from near Windsor, doesn't he, cos he said he has a mate has a fish shop in Windsor [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[291] That's right |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[292] often go to Windsor |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[293] That's right. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[294] We was looking at a video ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[295] erm it's an old one ... and it's called Fancy Fish ... and we were sorting our videos out to list 'em ... [...] and then we'll make a list ... and then we'd let you have and then if you want a video and that, you know what you got ... and we were looking through this Fancy Fish ... and it's erm I don't know if you remember it, it shows an open show ... at Oxford ... [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[296] Oh yeah, I think so. [297] Yes I remember. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[298] Anyway ... it's an open show [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[299] Yeah |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[300] [...] ... [cough] I think the ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[301] and he's got longer hair. [laugh] |
| (PS3MH) |
[302] Yeah ... yeah ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[303] Yeah |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[304] Well he still looks young, I mean despite the fact that he's a grandfather I think twice over |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[305] Grandfather for years |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[306] been a grandfather for years. [307] [laughing] He's got a ... a [...] [laugh] Oh dear [] . |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[308] Right er ... may I just make one comment on ... [...] by bringing the ... table show ... with Danny ... and er th champion of champions [...] ... it er ... it er I don't know how many people [...] ... champion of champions, [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[309] Can't hear you. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[310] [...] you know, I, I couldn't bring all the fish ... I mean I just put some on the table [...] ... I couldn't bring all the champion of champions |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[311] Cos of the tank ... couldn't carry it. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[312] because of the time and the [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[313] Yeah |
| Bert (PS3MG) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[314] It probably would never happen again cos it was |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[315] Yeah it was a lot of work [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[316] Yes ... yes. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[317] We had no ... how many people showed on Monday? [...] five of them? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[318] Yeah. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[319] There's a lot of it actually, it'd be nice if [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[320] I realize that, you know ... I would say [...] five of them ... five people [...] in both departments ... champion of champions [...] ... let's hope that it never happens again, you know, these things do happen. |
| (PS3MH) |
[321] Well [...] is on that, you know. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[322] There was yourself ... and [...] , Jack ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[323] and [...] ... er ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[324] You didn't bring any [...] ? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[325] No I didn't bring any, no [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[326] Erm ... that gentleman |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[327] Was it the cold water temperature [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[328] It could have been worse [...] could have been worse. [329] Would only be ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[330] Couldn't have been really much better really, [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[331] Well ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[332] Yeah |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[333] Well he was dashing out when I ... when I called him ... erm his wife answered the phone and she said [...] you just [...] him he's going out at the door ... so he came rushing back and I said I wanted him to judge ... champion of champions and ... the [...] and I said there'll be two ... and he said, hang on, and he's write it down said I'll just stick it all at one and see to it when I come back, oh I gotta go and he went. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[334] Yeah. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[335] And that was it. |
| (PS3MH) |
[336] Yeah yeah ... yeah. [337] Well he, he appreciated [...] at the previous table show on the sixth of October ... and that was a case when it was always ... you know, because Danny only told me on that night that he could come. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[338] Yeah. |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[339] So it was all a hotchpotch, it was all ... and I had to do the ... the best ... I could for those who showed fish and that was the only way I could do it. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[340] Right er ... thanks Emily ... for your report. [341] Any proposers and seconders? |
| (PS3MH) |
[342] I'll propose Emily's report and, and in doing so I'd like to say ... thank you to her for her sterling work this year, I think she's done a terrific job ... erm and I'd like to thank her personally for the help she's given me over the year. [343] I couldn't have managed without her. |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[344] Any seconders? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[345] Got to get your name in the minutes somehow. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Bert (PS3MG) |
[346] Right, thanks Emily. [347] Erm ... librarian's report ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[348] [...] sixty P and thirty P |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[349] Oh is it? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[350] Thirty pence. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[351] Yeah well ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Emily (PS3MJ) |
[352] We auc ... we auctioned ... the books after as you know ... and erm ... so I ... I'll have to make a new list of what's left and let you have it. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[353] I know I, I will be against [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[354] they take books out once or twice and then ... the older members don't take 'em out ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[355] I mean I know it's difficult ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[356] Yeah. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[357] having them at home ... I mean ... erm ... [...] ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[358] Yeah |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[359] but they're still not ... [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[360] They didn't ... they didn't take them out of the [...] Joe ... you know ... erm |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[361] ... er I think we get a saturation point and the thing that annoys me is ... that young fellow who came to the club ... had a [...] ... got, we got a special [...] went to the special trouble of getting a [...] for him ... and I cannot get it off him and he lives up Newton way somewhere ... I've been to him three times ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[362] I've been to that house ... [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[363] and I've I've phoned three or four times ... and you can get no reply ... and I'm, I'm a bit cheesed off with it ... cos this is the second time [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[364] [...] small claims court. |
| (PS3MH) |
[365] For want of a better word they're actually stolen ... [...] books are stolen. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[366] I'll get it ... I'll get it back, I know where he lives. |
| (PS3MH) |
[367] Do you? [368] I mean ... [...] [cough] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[369] Yes I've phoned and I've written three times ... and I've written to his mother ... our official letter, official no headed notepaper ... she's not there, she works as a nurse doesn't she? [370] She's not in till nine o' clock. [371] Well they [...] anyway, were they? [372] They were [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[373] [...] order it specially ... cos it's not a book you'd ask for often, is it I suppose. |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[374] Yes I know er yes I er er I er er I, I think it's a good thing ... that people, if they ask for information, you've got to buy books to get them. [375] But what's aggrieved me is that he's just waltzed off with it ... and not [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[376] It looks like he just [...] and come here just to get a book. |
| (PS3MH) |
[377] I'll ask him [...] and he's, he's just ignoring all the er ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[378] That's right [...] a letter that we're taking him to court [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) |
[379] I know there's a couple [...] |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[380] Erm ... |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[381] yes. [382] What was his name? |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |
| (PS3MH) |
[383] Alan . |
| Unknown speaker (J3NPSUNK) | [...] |