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103 conversations recorded by `Raymond' (PS0PN) between 13 and 19 March 1992 with 46 interlocutors, totalling 17138 s-units, 108739 words, and over 1 hour 50 minutes 5 seconds of recordings.


47 speakers recorded by respondent number 523

PS0PN Ag4 m (Raymond, age 57, retired, North-west Midlands, )
PS0PP Ag4 f (Margaret, age 55, retired, London, ) wife
PS0PR Ag5 m (Brian, age 61, technician, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0PS Ag4 f (Shirley, age 50, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0PT Ag4 m (Brian, age 50, photographer, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0PU Ag4 m (Eric, age 54, retired, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0PV Ag4 f (Chris, age 45, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0PW Ag4 m (John, age 46, driver, Merseyside, ) colleague
PS0PX Ag5 f (Paula, age 70, housewife, London, ) colleague
PS0PY Ag5 f (Gwyneth, age 66, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0R0 Ag3 m (Bruce, age 35, technician, Merseyside, ) colleague
PS0R1 Ag4 f (Joan, age 57, tutor, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0R2 Ag2 f (Joanna, age 31, upholsterer, Home Counties, ) colleague
PS0R3 Ag4 m (Arthur, age 54, driver, Merseyside, ) colleague
PS0R4 Ag3 m (Paul, age 36, policeman, North-west Midlands, ) son
PS0R5 Ag2 f (Cathy, age 27, laboratory technician, North-west Midlands, ) daughter-in-law
PS0R6 Ag0 m (Nik, age 11, boys brigade, Welsh, ) stranger
PS0R7 Ag5 f (Dorothy, age 60, machinist, Welsh, ) colleague
PS0R8 Ag0 f (Laura, age 6, student, North-west Midlands, ) granddaughter
PS0R9 Ag0 m (Scott, age 5, student, North-west Midlands, ) grandson
PS0RA Ag0 f (Emily, age 8, student, North-west Midlands, ) granddaughter
PS0RB Ag2 f (Carrie, age 31, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) daughter
PS0RC Ag5 m (Ken, age 61, retired, North-west Midlands, ) friend
PS0RD Ag5 m (Norman, age 61, joiner, North-west Midlands, ) neighbour
PS0RE Ag3 f (Molly, age 37, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0RF Ag5 m (John, age 60, schoolmaster, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0RG Ag4 m (George, age 45, tutor, Central Midlands, ) colleague
PS0RH Ag3 f (Nanette, age 43, housewife, European (Dutch), ) colleague
PS0RJ Ag3 f (Victoria, age 37, housewife, United States, ) colleague
PS0RK Ag5 m (Arthur, age 61, storeman, South Midlands, ) friend
PS0RL Ag3 m (Glyn, age 40, auction worker, Welsh, ) colleague
PS0RM Ag5 m (Hughes, age 63, chemist, Central Midlands, ) stranger
PS0RN Ag2 f (Hayley, age 27, chemist, North-west Midlands, ) friend
PS0RP Ag5 f (Hilary, age 62, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) neighbour
PS0RR Ag3 f (Phyllis, age 42, secretary, North-west Midlands, ) friend
PS0RS Ag1 f (Louise, age 22, typist, North-west Midlands, ) friend
PS0RT Ag5 m (Tim, age 61, dentist, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0RU Ag5 m (Ted, age 62, retired, Merseyside, ) colleague
PS0RV Ag4 f (Pat, age 57, housewife, London, ) colleague
PS0RW Ag4 m (Mike, age 48, restorer, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0RX Ag2 m (Tony, age 27, remover, Merseyside, ) colleague
PS0RY Ag5 f (Alice, age 64, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0S0 Ag4 m (Brian, age 45, salesman, North-west Midlands, ) friend
PS0S1 Ag5 f (Mary, age 61, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
PS0S2 Ag3 f (Teresa, age 42, housewife, North-west Midlands, ) colleague
KDMPSUNK (respondent W0000) X u (Unknown speaker, age unknown) other
KDMPSUGP (respondent W000M) X u (Group of unknown speakers, age unknown) other

103 recordings

  1. Tape 029801 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( home ) Activity: feeding dogs
  2. Tape 029802 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( home ) Activity: taking dogs for walk
  3. Tape 029803 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: furniture restoration
  4. Tape 029804 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: talking about dentists
  5. Tape 029805 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: restoring chairs
  6. Tape 029806 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: upholstering
  7. Tape 029807 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: upholstery
  8. Tape 029808 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: talking to driver
  9. Tape 029809 recorded on 1992-03-13. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: talking
  10. Tape 029901 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( Home ) Activity: talking to family
  11. Tape 029902 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( Mold Market ) Activity: Shopping
  12. Tape 029903 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( Mould market ) Activity: shopping
  13. Tape 029904 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( daughters house ) Activity: talking to grandchildren
  14. Tape 029905 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( daughters house ) Activity: talking to children
  15. Tape 029906 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: playing games
  16. Tape 029907 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: playing games
  17. Tape 029908 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: playing games
  18. Tape 029909 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: playing games
  19. Tape 029910 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: playing games
  20. Tape 029911 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: playing games
  21. Tape 029912 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: playing games
  22. Tape 030001 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( friends house ) Activity: talking
  23. Tape 030002 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( friends house ) Activity: talking
  24. Tape 030003 recorded on 1992-03-14. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( friends house ) Activity: discussing politics
  25. Tape 030101 recorded on 1992-03-15. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: reading
  26. Tape 030201 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  27. Tape 030202 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  28. Tape 030203 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( out ) Activity: walking the dog
  29. Tape 030204 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( out ) Activity: walking the dog
  30. Tape 030205 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( out ) Activity: walking the dog
  31. Tape 030206 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  32. Tape 030207 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  33. Tape 030208 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  34. Tape 030209 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  35. Tape 030210 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  36. Tape 030211 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  37. Tape 030212 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  38. Tape 030213 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  39. Tape 030214 recorded on 1992-03-16. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  40. Tape 030301 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  41. Tape 030302 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( college ) Activity: Unspecified
  42. Tape 030303 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( college ) Activity: Unspecified
  43. Tape 030304 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  44. Tape 030305 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( college ) Activity: Unspecified
  45. Tape 030401 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working - furniture restoration
  46. Tape 030402 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working - furniture restoration
  47. Tape 030403 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working - furniture restoration
  48. Tape 030404 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working - furniture restoration
  49. Tape 030405 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working - furniture restoration
  50. Tape 030406 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working - furniture restoration
  51. Tape 030407 recorded on 1992-03-17. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working - furniture restoration
  52. Tape 030501 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Buckley () Activity: walking dog
  53. Tape 030502 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mold/Buckley ( auction rooms/market ) Activity: Unspecified
  54. Tape 030503 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mold/Buckley ( auction rooms/market ) Activity: Unspecified
  55. Tape 030504 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mold/Buckley ( auction rooms/market ) Activity: Unspecified
  56. Tape 030505 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mold/Buckley ( auction rooms/market ) Activity: Unspecified
  57. Tape 030506 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mold/Buckley ( auction rooms/market ) Activity: Unspecified
  58. Tape 030507 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mold/Buckley ( auction rooms/market ) Activity: shopping
  59. Tape 030508 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mold/Buckley ( auction rooms/market ) Activity: shopping
  60. Tape 030509 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( neighbours ) Activity: visiting
  61. Tape 030510 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Buckley ( neighbours ) Activity: visiting
  62. Tape 030512 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Connams Quay () Activity: visiting son
  63. Tape 030513 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Shotton ( Daughters house ) Activity: visiting daughter
  64. Tape 030514 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Shotton () Activity: visiting daughter
  65. Tape 030515 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Buckley () Activity: Unspecified
  66. Tape 030601 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mancot ( friends house ) Activity: general
  67. Tape 030602 recorded on 1992-03-18. LocationClwyd: Mancot ( friends house ) Activity: general
  68. Tape 030701 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( garage ) Activity: petrol
  69. Tape 030702 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  70. Tape 030703 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  71. Tape 030704 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  72. Tape 030705 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  73. Tape 030706 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  74. Tape 030707 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  75. Tape 030708 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  76. Tape 030709 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  77. Tape 030710 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  78. Tape 030711 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  79. Tape 030712 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  80. Tape 030713 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  81. Tape 030714 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  82. Tape 030715 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  83. Tape 030716 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  84. Tape 030717 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  85. Tape 030718 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  86. Tape 030719 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  87. Tape 030720 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  88. Tape 030721 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  89. Tape 030722 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  90. Tape 030723 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  91. Tape 030724 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  92. Tape 030725 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  93. Tape 030726 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  94. Tape 030727 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  95. Tape 030728 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  96. Tape 030729 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  97. Tape 030730 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  98. Tape 030731 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  99. Tape 030732 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  100. Tape 030733 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  101. Tape 030734 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  102. Tape 030735 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: working
  103. Tape 030736 recorded on 1992-03-19. LocationClwyd: Eastham Village ( College ) Activity: mending car

1 (Tape 029801)

Margaret (PS0PP) [1] [...] they're both, press it hard ... right that's going.
[2] Press the one, the black one behind there to switch it off.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3] So we're on now are we?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [4] Come on beauty [kiss] ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [5] Have you made any tea?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7] Oh dear, oh dear oh dear.
[8] [...] Oh you [...] ... hello little doggy. ... [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [9] [noise of dog biscuits being tipped out] [...] ... [...] ... Try cooking this ham, do you think they might like it then?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10] Sorry?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11] The ham.
[12] The dogs.
[13] Try cooking it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14] Oh.
[15] Well wouldn't be able [...] tempt them into er [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...] ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [16] I mean really they should ... [...] ... they don't mind [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [17] Well that's the availability of the things isn't it?
[18] ... I think you might have to er ... take him down the road [...] afterwards ... when it clears up.
Margaret (PS0PP) [19] Oh you're not going to take them with you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [20] Well ... See how it goes [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [21] It's going off a bit now isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [22] Oh no. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [23] Erm ... you do realize this ham is already cooked don't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [24] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [25] No.
[26] ... Thought it might, they won't eat it like that, that's ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [27] Have they not eaten anything at all?
Raymond (PS0PN) [28] I haven't given them anything yet.
Margaret (PS0PP) [29] Oh.
[30] ... [...] ... [...] pliers and the screwdriver out [...] take them with you [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [31] No, for that job I was doing last night.
[32] ... The ca
Margaret (PS0PP) [33] Oh yes on the er
Raymond (PS0PN) [34] the castors
Margaret (PS0PP) [35] castors. [...] into the garage [...] ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [36] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [37] Have you gotta be there early this morning?
Raymond (PS0PN) [38] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [39] Oh. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [40] But I want to get there for nine.
[41] ... I said to John yesterday I said I ... I've done the er ... chair.
[42] I said I wanna get on with these, those dining chairs next ... in the sale.
Margaret (PS0PP) [43] When's the sale?
[44] Summer time isn't it?
[45] About June?
Raymond (PS0PN) [46] Erm May ... some time in May. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [47] Well where are you going to get the fabric for those?
[48] Trip to [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [49] Yes Margaret, what do you think? ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [50] [...] brilliant ideas [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [51] And see they were asking me what I was gonna use yesterday and I said oh I don't know I said, I haven't got a clue.
[52] ... [...] something about er ... tapestry.
[53] I said oh you're
Margaret (PS0PP) [54] No [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [55] spending a lot of money and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [56] Don't forget
Raymond (PS0PN) [57] I said it's not for us anyway so
Margaret (PS0PP) [58] it's going to take a lot of fabric ... both sides and the back.
[59] Full length of the back of the chairs ... across the seat [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [60] Exactly.
Margaret (PS0PP) [61] probably be [...] ... [...] yards of material that, and you've got six chairs so ... And you'd have to buy it off the roll, you're not going to get a piece ... a length at six yards are you?
[62] ... You know [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [63] Where's your cup?
Margaret (PS0PP) [64] [...] That's mine there, I've got mine out. [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [65] Oh ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [66] In the bathroom. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [67] Sun's trying to come out. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [68] Well I'll be able to take them down in a minute. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [laughing] [...] [] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [69] We'll have to take this thing to Ken's. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [70] Mm ... mm ... Ah look [...] batteries.
[71] ... I'm sure it's [...] in Pauline's garden because I've seen [...] a few times.
[72] ... E T ... mm [...] watching that
Raymond (PS0PN) [73] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [74] Don't you dare.
[75] ... They look like pink flowers on there don't they?
[76] Must be the leaves I think ... because I don't think it flowers this ... [...] shrub here.
Raymond (PS0PN) [77] It's the leaves.
Margaret (PS0PP) [78] Mm.
[79] ... That dogwood I moved ... I'm hoping it's gonna be alright cos ... it doesn't s show much sign of life at the moment.
[80] ... Oh I put it down the other end.
Raymond (PS0PN) [81] Oh.
[82] ... I wonder did Ann stop smoking yesterday?
Margaret (PS0PP) [83] [laugh] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [84] Likes her fags doesn't she? ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [85] Well ... think, didn't she give up last year? [...] she said something about it last year on radio, on ... no smoking day. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [86] Alright muff? ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [87] Must be torture for some people. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [88] Terrible. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [89] Wonder how many cigars Ken's consuming every day now? ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [90] Well I think it's only about four.
Margaret (PS0PP) [91] It's a lot though isn't it?
[92] Should be
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [93] about four a week ... four a day ... [...] ... Mm ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [94] Oh god, there's snow.
Margaret (PS0PP) [95] Mm ... well we haven't seen any this year have we really? ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [96] Too late now. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [97] Yeah too late to be serious [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [98] [laugh] I was wrapped up to the eyes when I went u ... down to ... [...] put my walking boots on as well because they're comfortable ... and there were people going [...] going round in their shellsuits and ... you know [laughing] I must be feeling the cold more now [] .
[99] ... I don't think I'd have been warm enough in a shellsuit. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [100] [...] ... Now what about eating up your meat?
[101] Come on.
[102] ... Ooh that's better.
[103] ... Do you wanna go for walkies?
[104] ... Mm?
[105] ... Do you wanna go for walkies?
[106] ... You do?
[107] ... Walkies ... okay.

2 (Tape 029802)

Margaret (PS0PP) [108] Now it's on, the light comes on doesn't it when it's on?
[109] Ooh!
[110] ... So I've left that form there for you to erm ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [111] Oh right-oh.
Margaret (PS0PP) [112] Oh do, do you want these bin bags?
Raymond (PS0PN) [113] Yes, gonna take those to get us some water.
Margaret (PS0PP) [114] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [115] While it's going, what?
Margaret (PS0PP) [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [116] [...] this morning really but ... what can you do? [sigh] ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [117] Isn't there any at all?
Raymond (PS0PN) [118] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [119] Oh.
[120] How is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [121] It's not bad, it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [122] she can get on for an hour ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [123] I mean [...] they are at the moment and if I have a meeting well after about an hour it seems as though you've [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [sneeze] [noseblow]
Margaret (PS0PP) [124] [...] working [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [125] Oh dear god ... [sigh] ... Those chrysanthemums done well. ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [126] They have, yes ... they're er ... they're good value those a pot, I mean [...] but ... they're reasonably ... when did you get it?
[127] It must be about three weeks ago.
Raymond (PS0PN) [128] Can't think what it was for now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [129] I think it was one of those impromptu ones.
[130] ... I know [laughing] it wasn't my birthday you just came in with it didn't you [] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [131] It's [...] birthday.
[132] ... I mean the only trouble is they're no use afterwards are they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [133] Must have had a brainstorm [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [134] I said they're no use afterwards are they? ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [135] I don't ... I don't know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [136] Because they're forced I reckon.
Margaret (PS0PP) [137] Oh.
[138] I think they'll grow if you put them in the garden ... eventually.
Raymond (PS0PN) [139] Well ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [140] Well I mean they won't flower again, that's for certain you see and it's it's gotta be
Margaret (PS0PP) [141] No, well not this year anyway, they ... they could [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [142] Oh right.
Margaret (PS0PP) [143] Have you got, oh ta look ... take this as well.
Raymond (PS0PN) [144] Yes I'm taking it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [145] Oh.
[146] ... [...] ... I'm going to have a go at this ... [...] today.
[147] They've dried out a bit, been too tacky to do anything with. [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [148] Bye bye chaps, don't let them out.
Margaret (PS0PP) [149] No ... see you then. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [150] Did they try and drag you up the farm yesterday?
Margaret (PS0PP) [151] Well he's, he actually was off the lead and he went straight through right to the other gate [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [152] Oh and you kept them off the road did you?
[153] You didn't just er
Margaret (PS0PP) [154] Oh yes well the gate was open so [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [155] and I always do
Margaret (PS0PP) [156] so she went into the second field [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [157] I'm not going [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [158] No it's a quag
Margaret (PS0PP) [159] carried on for a while [...] realized in the end he had to come back [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [160] It's in a bad state ... [cough] ... [cough] ... [...] hang on ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [161] Bye, see you later.
[162] ... Switch that on while you're

3 (Tape 029803)

Raymond (PS0PN) [163] Morning Shirley.
[164] ... That's twice this week
Shirley (PS0PS) [165] Five to nine
Raymond (PS0PN) [166] Whatever's happening?
Shirley (PS0PS) [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [167] I'm going ... going back the other way.
Shirley (PS0PS) [168] [...] I don't know
Raymond (PS0PN) [169] I mean ten o'clock yeah that's normal for you.
Shirley (PS0PS) [170] [laugh] It's not, half nine is my [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [171] No I know you [...] .
[172] ... [...] ... Alright Terry, how you doing lad?
[173] ... [singing] Oh ... looking at his mummy with eyes a shiny blue [] ... That bloody car of mine, hear the trouble I had?
[174] ... I was late yesterday wasn't I?
Brian (PS0PR) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [175] Yes
Brian (PS0PR) [176] [...] the carburettor?
Raymond (PS0PN) [177] No, no I ... it's the M O T you see
Brian (PS0PR) [178] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [179] next, next week so ... the other front pads are worn
Brian (PS0PR) [180] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [181] discs like ... got four pads and I thought oh an hour ... put those on isn't it?
[182] Not much of a job ... when it came to put them on like the erm ... you know the pipe that pushes them out?
Brian (PS0PR) [183] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [184] You've gotta push them back haven't you?
[185] And you've usually got
Brian (PS0PR) [186] yeah that's right
Raymond (PS0PN) [187] too much fluid in
Brian (PS0PR) [188] yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [189] Well it says in the book, push them back with [laughing] a stick [] .
Brian (PS0PR) [190] With a what?
Raymond (PS0PN) [191] With a stick and a piece of
Brian (PS0PR) [192] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [193] Well if it's frozen there's no way ... so er I rang up Mobil you see in [...] and the fellow said oh if it's been on for s you know ... few years he said, take your calliper off, put it in the vice and just lever it back ... that's what we do
Brian (PS0PR) [194] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [195] Goes to get the flexible hose off ... that was ruddy frozen, you the, the union?
Brian (PS0PR) [196] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [197] Rang him up again he said oh aye well we usually change those he said, the weather gets on them.
[198] Said they're not like the old ones that go like ... as though they're welded
Brian (PS0PR) [199] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [200] and you're turning the whole pipe.
[201] He said the only, the other thing you can do is ... loosen it off ... take the calliper b and turn the calliper round.
Brian (PS0PR) [202] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [203] It's like turning the car round to take off a bloody ... bolt, you know?
[204] Oh I thought I'll do that to save another hose.
[205] Anyway did that ... course he said you'll have to bleed it out [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [206] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [207] Did the first one ... right ... this was on er ... Wednesday ... afternoon you see?
[208] ... So came to do the other side, went to the same routine ... the nipple snapped off.
[209] ... So any rate I rang this fellow ... [...] I said eh he said ... oh he said you've got no chance mate, he said.
[210] He said you can drill it out but he said you ... oh aye your ... the thread gets damaged ... and the seating
Brian (PS0PR) [211] That's right, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [212] and he said if you get one leak on that your brakes
Brian (PS0PR) [213] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [214] you're shot.
[215] ... So a new calliper ... how much do you think for a new calliper?
Brian (PS0PR) [216] No idea.
Raymond (PS0PN) [217] Seventy pound plus VAT from Volvo's.
Brian (PS0PR) [218] Bloody hell!
Raymond (PS0PN) [219] So I thought there's no way, so I rang round the scrapyards.
Brian (PS0PR) [220] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [221] There's one at Greenville he said oh twenty five pound plus VAT.
[222] ... That's what I did, yesterday morning went with my mate ... came back, stuck it on ... so it's cost me ... the, the pads were seventeen ... twenty, thirty pound for the what's a name and ... fifty quid near enough just to do the front brakes.
Brian (PS0PR) [223] Bloody hell. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [224] And that's before the M O T.
Brian (PS0PR) [225] Yeah ... yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [226] The other week it cost me fifty quid to go to the, to get it tuned you know?
[227] ... Cars, honest to god.
[228] ... You want some money today don't you, just to ruddy ... eh?
Brian (PS0PR) [229] They work out twenty five pounds an hour ... in garages.
Raymond (PS0PN) [230] Oh, oh well ... well you don't go there do you, unless you've got [...] ... bloody hell.
[231] Well our M O T guy, fair do ... [...] you know and he'll say ... so and so wants doing, can you take it away and do it?
Brian (PS0PR) [232] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [233] And he doesn't charge.
Brian (PS0PR) [234] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [235] These other ones, as soon as you leave ... do it yourself ... that's another twenty quid for a re-test
Brian (PS0PR) [236] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [237] Oh aye.
[238] You do it there they only charge ... fifteen is it or something if they do it.
[239] But I mean you know as you just said then they'd wanna charge you per hour it's
Brian (PS0PR) [240] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [241] beyond the working man.
[242] ... Now Shirley, you're still messing about with this little job here.
Shirley (PS0PS) [243] Well I wanted the sander.
Raymond (PS0PN) [244] We're just coming in a minute. ...
Shirley (PS0PS) [245] [...] isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [246] Yes I like this business of putting your what's a name on this d with this ... you know, the glue on.
Shirley (PS0PS) [247] Well it was so ... flaky, the wood
Raymond (PS0PN) [248] Yeah.
[249] And that sort of seals
Shirley (PS0PS) [250] But
Raymond (PS0PN) [251] it in doesn't it?
Shirley (PS0PS) [252] Well it seals it but it also helps to erm ... give you some purchase you see for
Raymond (PS0PN) [253] Yes that's right, when you put the next lot in.
Shirley (PS0PS) [254] the patch, yeah but if you had just glued that then ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [255] Alright Bri, how's it going mate?
Brian (PS0PT) [256] Oh just [...] work innit?
Eric (PS0PU) [257] The gentleman there's going out with me round about quarter past eleven ... do you wanna come with us and call in to that place? ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [258] Where oh ... where you going?
Eric (PS0PU) [259] See about the wood...
Raymond (PS0PN) [260] Oh yeah alright then, yes
Eric (PS0PU) [261] See if you can get any wood
Raymond (PS0PN) [262] alright, yeah just see what he says.
Eric (PS0PU) [263] Did you bring a sample in?
Raymond (PS0PN) [264] No, I never thought.
Eric (PS0PU) [265] No [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [266] But I can ask him and I'll
Eric (PS0PU) [267] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [268] tell him ... er you know, he knows ... yeah
Eric (PS0PU) [269] er
Raymond (PS0PN) [270] See it all hinges on if he's got a bandsaw, if he ... if he hasn't got a bandsaw, wasting our ruddy time.
Eric (PS0PU) [271] He's going out the port about quarter past eleven.
Raymond (PS0PN) [272] Yeah it won't take long will it?
[273] ... Because I've got myriads of things to do.
[274] Never mind.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [275] Oh you're on about her, oh go oh aye, oh well.
[276] Don't start that again, you know what I mean?
[277] Well she [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [278] [...] I'm gonna get that lad some.
[279] Now if you want some more there [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [280] You mean Tony is it or ... ?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [281] Is it Tony?
Raymond (PS0PN) [282] The young fellow who ... or erm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [283] Tony
Raymond (PS0PN) [284] Tony
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [285] Tony
Raymond (PS0PN) [286] Oh ... Yeah.
[287] We'll see what he says anyway.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [288] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [289] See what the guy ... [...] .
[290] Yeah no trouble mate, yeah just sing out when you're ready boy. ... [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [291] Victorian dressing table [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [292] Oh ... oh that's nice.
[293] I ... I did glance over yesterday er
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [294] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [295] but er ...
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [296] [...] fair job I'm doing.
Raymond (PS0PN) [297] Oh that's nice that.
[298] Where's the rest of it?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [299] It's near the table, moved it.
[300] ... Paula was [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [301] Paula's here?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [302] [...] instead of driving screws through the top.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [303] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [304] Screws just at the front underneath here ... This was in a bad state cos er this was ... this was up like er ... like that.
[305] Yeah.
[306] ... This ... and this end had caved, being unsupported.
[307] So it [...] worth a few bob.
Raymond (PS0PN) [308] Oh aye yes it's nice.
[309] I like the legs.
[310] ... What does Brian think of the legs, any good?
Brian (PS0PT) [311] [...] hand made nails
Raymond (PS0PN) [312] Oh yeah.
Brian (PS0PT) [313] there yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [314] Yeah the old cast iron nails, they're good aren't they?
Brian (PS0PT) [315] [...] black nails
Raymond (PS0PN) [316] Yeah.
[317] ... Yes I like that.
[318] ... Yeah you can use them again.
[319] I'd just drill a hole me and knock them in, you know?
Brian (PS0PT) [320] As I say I [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [321] Smart innit?
[322] ... Yes I like that er ...
Brian (PS0PT) [323] Rather than waste all of the oak in the old days [...] here have, have faced it
Raymond (PS0PN) [324] Oh yeah yeah he's put like a fillet on the front yeah yeah
Brian (PS0PT) [325] all the way round
Raymond (PS0PN) [326] yeah
Brian (PS0PT) [327] you see?
[328] ... Of oak.
Raymond (PS0PN) [329] Yeah.
Brian (PS0PT) [330] Rather than use solid oak.
Raymond (PS0PN) [331] Do a lovely smart job on that don't we?
[332] Gluing it on, eh? ... [...] messing like that today.
Brian (PS0PT) [333] Pooof!
Raymond (PS0PN) [334] But er ... yes that would go anywhere that wouldn't it?
Shirley (PS0PS) [335] [...] he gave me a [...] before he went on holiday and he hasn't come back. [laughing] [...] []
Raymond (PS0PN) [336] Shirley [...] gone up now.
[337] Anyway ... I must box on chaps.
[338] ... Must get something done Bri.
[339] ... [singing] Moonlight becomes you it goes with your hair ... and it it's so romantic to know moonlight becomes you so []
Chris (PS0PV) [340] Morning
Raymond (PS0PN) [341] Morning Chris how are you love?
Chris (PS0PV) [342] I'm alright thanks, how are you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [343] Very good.
[344] ... Morning John, how you doing lad?
John (PS0PW) [345] Morning.
[346] Alright.
Raymond (PS0PN) [347] You've got it cracked have you?
[348] ... [singing] You're all dressed up to go dreaming ... don't tell me I'm wrong [] ... I'm sure I've seen that material before somewhere you know.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [349] Don't
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [350] I'm sure I've seen that material somewhere before.
[351] ... Morning Jo
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [352] Morning Jo ... Morning Margaret ... Morning Paula ... Oh she's not speaking to me this morning Paula.
[353] ... I've upset her.
[354] I know what it is Paula, I haven't borrowed anything yet. ...
Paula (PS0PX) [355] Hello love.
Raymond (PS0PN) [356] How are you love?
Paula (PS0PX) [357] Alright thanks.
[358] How are you? [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [359] Sweating.
[360] I'm sweating, no I'm [...]
Paula (PS0PX) [361] What do you think of that?
Raymond (PS0PN) [362] Ooh aye!
[363] Hey, that might do for my chairs do you think?
[364] Would that, that style ... my dining chairs, what do you think? ...
Paula (PS0PX) [365] It's just quilting, that's all it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [366] Oh it's qu oh no it's for er ... it's more like curtains is it?
Paula (PS0PX) [367] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [368] Oh.
Paula (PS0PX) [369] It's going on me chair.
[370] It's going on the box.
Raymond (PS0PN) [371] Oh I see yeah so I suppose it's
Paula (PS0PX) [372] [...] box
Raymond (PS0PN) [373] gotta be heavy stuff I see yeah, er yeah oh that's a good id
Paula (PS0PX) [374] She said it was a remnant and I thought I'd make a box for the sale.
[375] But do you like the colour?
Raymond (PS0PN) [376] Yes, it's gorgeous that isn't it eh?
Paula (PS0PX) [377] Oh thank christ for that. [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [378] No it's not gaudy, it's er ...
Paula (PS0PX) [379] Well it was, it was so cheap
Raymond (PS0PN) [380] Well yeah this is it you see, yeah
Paula (PS0PX) [381] it was only a couple of pound a yard.
Raymond (PS0PN) [382] That's what I'll have to get for these chairs
Paula (PS0PX) [383] [...] a remnant.
Raymond (PS0PN) [384] I've got six chairs to do, where from, Abercanny
Paula (PS0PX) [385] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [386] Oh I'll see if I can get some of that.
Paula (PS0PX) [387] You see you're ... you, you're better to go to Moston because you're halfway, you're there aren't you, living in Queensferry?
Raymond (PS0PN) [388] Yes yeah.
Paula (PS0PX) [389] You know, go to, go to Moston, it's much quicker
Raymond (PS0PN) [390] Yeah oh yeah, yeah.
[391] But you can't get
Paula (PS0PX) [392] Just go up on the A fifty five
Raymond (PS0PN) [393] Quite often the remnants aren't very good you know Paula.
Paula (PS0PX) [394] Oh they are ... got miles [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [395] I know but a lot of it's rubbish isn't it?
[396] It's not all good stuff like this.
Paula (PS0PX) [397] What, do you think that's rubbish then? [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [398] Who John?
Paula (PS0PX) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [399] You pointed to him then. [laugh]
Paula (PS0PX) [400] [...] had a bloody row this morning already
Raymond (PS0PN) [401] Oh
Paula (PS0PX) [402] Well I, I wanted just a small box like what you made.
[403] Wasn't satisfied with it, he goes and makes a big one as well but I don't want a big one, I don't wanna do a big one ... for the sale I just wanna do a small one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [404] Ah well he's always wanted a big one.
[405] Yes
Paula (PS0PX) [406] And er [laugh] ... and a stool with a [...] seat to match, that's all I wanted.
Raymond (PS0PN) [407] Mm.
[408] That's typical
Paula (PS0PX) [409] [...] never satisfied with what I do.
Raymond (PS0PN) [410] typical of him.
Paula (PS0PX) [411] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [412] Eh?
[413] What a mistake you made.
[414] Right what are we doing John?
[415] ... Chairs we're doing today.
[416] ... There's six of those to do, now then.
[417] ... Yeah ... put them in the sale, you know ... I'm gonna put them in the sale ... see if we can get a few bob ... right, pattern first I should imagine.
[418] ... [...] many people coming to the sales.
John (PS0PW) [419] I won't let you [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [420] I've only put, I've put stuff in.
John (PS0PW) [421] Yeah.
[422] You know but
Raymond (PS0PN) [423] I er never actually
John (PS0PW) [424] I, I ... I made about sixty quid last year, you know?
Raymond (PS0PN) [425] Oh yes I believe ... it gets er quite a lot, it's er ... well yesterday there weren't many for that open day.
[426] ... But for the sale er ... it's well advertised you know and er there's a lot of people seem to know about it, you know connected with the college mainly I suppose, they get their mates to come ... ooh there's good stuff ... and there is some good stuff, you know?
John (PS0PW) [427] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [428] So it's er it seems to do pretty well.
[429] ... I'll er I'll try to get a few things, make a few bob you know, to ...
John (PS0PW) [430] [...] don't mind me asking, what would you expect to ... ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [431] Don't know yet.
John (PS0PW) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [432] Well I'm hoping a hundred plus
John (PS0PW) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [433] you know?
John (PS0PW) [434] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [435] Well christ you've gotta be, I've paid that to be honest
John (PS0PW) [436] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [437] I've paid seventy for the bloody things.
John (PS0PW) [438] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [439] Erm ... I dunno ...
John (PS0PW) [440] Oh they're nice chairs [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [441] [...] hundred and thirty maybe I'm not, I'm not quite sure to be honest er ... not quite sure old mate.
[442] ... Yeah I'll see what they say, you know, erm I'll ... John, he had a set of erm ... high backed ... reproduction erm ... what do they call them now?
[443] Regency ... nineteen twenties, [...] in the twenties
John (PS0PW) [444] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [445] out of mahogany.
[446] They are nice though, they've got the Queen Anne legs and the high back you know?
John (PS0PW) [447] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [448] He got about er two hundred for those last year, set of six.
[449] ... You know he just bought them from ... sale or whatever it was, sixty, seventy quid ... bit of polish.
[450] They were [...] not mistaken.
[451] Did, he did well.
[452] Some of them have a lot of stuff, you know I don't seem to ever get hold of the stuff me, to ... tables and that [...] little Eric in there he seems to get loads of stuff [...]
John (PS0PW) [453] Yeah I can't
Raymond (PS0PN) [454] he's got a lovely table there hasn't he? [...] it's a nice one.
John (PS0PW) [455] He's got a lot of connections Eric, you know and
Raymond (PS0PN) [456] I have very few I'm afraid.
John (PS0PW) [457] There you go. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [458] Thank you. ...

4 (Tape 029804)

Gwyneth (PS0PY) [459] [...] and I think that's why we've got such a good dentist. [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [460] Mm
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [461] and he erm ... he was very upset about it.
[462] Then he ... by that time this expensive [...] and that's the one that's [...] .
[463] So he said [...] ... start again.
Raymond (PS0PN) [464] You're still paying out that's the trouble, all the time.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [465] Well that's it.
[466] But on the other hand, what can you do about it?
[467] You can't [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [468] No, no it's oh no you can't go round gummy.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [469] We're going to, we've, we've got this [...] going down to [...] for three weeks, you know next weekend ... or the weekend afterwards, and we don't keep getting appointments, see I'm gonna keep ringing him up and pestering him and saying
Raymond (PS0PN) [470] Mm
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [471] have you got a cancellation?
[472] ... It's life isn't Ray?
Raymond (PS0PN) [473] Oh yeah.
[474] I mean
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [475] I mean what
Raymond (PS0PN) [476] friend of ours, he, he hit his tooth, got a lovely tooth [...] Ken he's sixty one now, never had much trouble you know
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [477] Snapped this one off ... er you know in an ac he fell over or whatever, on his [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [478] Yeah, that's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [479] [...] said oh god [...] he didn't know whether to pull it out there and then
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [480] But it's [...] very hard [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [481] But ... went to the dentist and he said leave it ... pushed it right back and he said it will grow back.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [482] Did it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [483] Oh yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [484] Ah it must [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [485] Long as the roots are ...
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [486] Oh well yes, oh well yeah, oh well now obviously
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [487] So er ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [488] I mean my boy had a er a terrible accident ten years ago and smashed all his face ... all his teeth were ... [...] when we first saw his face he'd got no teeth left ... but it's ... got them all back.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [489] And they're all back and ... yeah even though they were all, they were all loose ... I mean ... still fresh you see the, the break.
[490] And it's, the life is in the, still in the tooth if you can find it, but of course sometimes they've gone haven't they?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [491] Too late for us [...] [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [492] Put up with what we've got eh? ...
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [493] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [494] Put up with what we've got.
[495] Well as I say I look after mine but I've only got ... the one missing.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [496] Mm ... I'd hate to have a load of chop [...] ooh
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [497] [...] was scared [...] only children [...] he was scared wasn't he?
[498] Tony was frightened.
Raymond (PS0PN) [499] Oh yes that's stupid that, he he'll end up ... if he doesn't go, with a mou a mouth of ... sort of black
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [500] [...] He, he'll have them all out.
Raymond (PS0PN) [501] Yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [502] If he ... we used to ... [...] the children
Raymond (PS0PN) [503] I think that's awful if young people
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [504] even our grandchildren were, I mean er right from the beginning even if they only go and sit in the surgery ... and just watch,ju you know just go and visit
Raymond (PS0PN) [505] Yeah that's, that's what they do now yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [506] Get them trained, get them [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [507] Yes, yeah so they're not terrified.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [508] That's right, I mean ... there's no pain [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [509] I think they were frightening years ago when they, when we were kids so they're frightening places.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [510] Well we had no, we had no erm ... nothing to stop the pain.
Raymond (PS0PN) [511] No.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [512] We had no injections, we were just put in a chair and, and it cost
Raymond (PS0PN) [513] That's right
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [514] two guineas for every filling [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [515] I know, it's a lot of money.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [516] I mean [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [517] Yeah, week's wages yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [518] But we, he didn't get more than two or three guineas a week did he when we were first
Raymond (PS0PN) [519] That's right, yeah yes
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [520] Then we get, I know ... our dentist was very good, we've always said that if we had a good dentist and a good doctors we're on our holidays, and we have, we've been lucky wherever we've been
Raymond (PS0PN) [521] Mm.
[522] Mm.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [523] we've had good dentists, good doctors.
Raymond (PS0PN) [524] Oh it pays you to get a sympathetic one and one that's er not on the
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [525] But this one is lovely.
[526] This one's [...] young and he's so gentle, you know he
Raymond (PS0PN) [527] Yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [528] Oh they're marvellous.
[529] [...] I think that's what Tony's harking back to, the old style when you went and they were a bit er callous.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [530] Yes indeed well, [...] young, how old is he?
[531] Twenty ... five?
Raymond (PS0PN) [532] He's only in his twenties, yeah he ought not, no it wouldn't be would it?
[533] No.
[534] Twenty years ago they were, they were alright weren't they?
[535] What am I thinking about?
[536] No I'm thinking about ...
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [laughing] [...] []
Raymond (PS0PN) [537] Well you know the first time I went was ... oh I dunno, before the war you know when I was about four or five and I went to get one out ... I mean my parents
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [538] but it was terrible I was screaming, I was terrified and, and, and I can still see the place you know, there's something very foreboding about the, the place and the chair was like a
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [539] And everything was hard
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [540] wasn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [541] And they wouldn't mess about if you, you ... they slapped you if you didn't do as you were told.
[542] So that put me right off for a start.
[543] But erm ... you only get one good set don't you?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [544] That's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [545] I [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [546] And also you see right from, right from pregnancy [...]
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Raymond (PS0PN) [547] Well they get it free don't they?
[548] At the moment.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [549] [...] yeah.
[550] I mean er it's before they're ... conceived that you've got to try to ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [551] Oh yes, yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [552] I mean it's no good ... smoking yourself to death and then er
Raymond (PS0PN) [553] That's right.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [554] falling for a baby and then saying
Raymond (PS0PN) [555] No no
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [556] oh dear
Raymond (PS0PN) [557] Well that makes me ill now.
[558] It didn't used to but when I, I, I, I feel like going up to these girls and saying for god's sake take that thing out of your mouth.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [559] That's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [560] When they're pregnant or they've got a little baby.
[561] ... It's horrible.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [562] I mean [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [563] But you know you can't tell people.
[564] This friend of ours who lost his wife last year, well we've got another friend who was very fond of her ... she also smokes ... we just happened to me we didn't say
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [565] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [566] I mean it's happened now so we never
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [567] Absolutely.
[568] No you can't.
Raymond (PS0PN) [569] say to th this chap you know but ... we just happened to mention in passing to Jeanette ... and she really jumped and said oh Pat didn't smoke a lot.
[570] ... But
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [571] Was it very sudden?
Raymond (PS0PN) [572] we know via my daughter [...] she's a nurse and she said no ... cancer ... get a lot of uterine cancer and all this it's not, not in the lungs now.
[573] Forget that.
[574] That's obvious.
[575] But all the other things
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [576] That's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [577] it goes to.
[578] But ... you can't tell these people.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [579] They won't listen.
Raymond (PS0PN) [580] This lady we're on about now she's ... she must be on forty, fifty a day.
[581] A nervous smoker.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [582] See how does she afford it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [583] Well that's right, they're both of them at it.
[584] ... God knows.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [585] [...] pin this to the chair [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [586] Oh god help well get Brian to do that, he loves it.
[587] [laugh] ... Morning Bruce, how you doing lad?
[588] You busy?
Bruce (PS0R0) [589] [...] yeah.
[590] ... Well pleased. ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [591] What have they got you on this morning?
Bruce (PS0R0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [592] Oh
Bruce (PS0R0) [593] and, and a door there to keep you people nice and warm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [594] Oh, now?
[595] The ... summer's coming on now.
[596] [laugh] ... We do things back to front ...

5 (Tape 029805)

Raymond (PS0PN) [597] yes
Joan (PS0R1) [598] We had three lots of different blues [laughing] and that's the only one I really like []
Raymond (PS0PN) [599] Poor old John's puzzled is he, all the time?
Joan (PS0R1) [600] No he doesn't mind actually, he's very good.
Raymond (PS0PN) [601] No ... oh we go a l and it looks nice.
Joan (PS0R1) [602] He likes a change.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Joan (PS0R1) [603] You see that the, the, it's so dark in here anyway Ray because
Raymond (PS0PN) [604] Mm
Joan (PS0R1) [605] the wall as you know backs
Raymond (PS0PN) [606] Yes
Joan (PS0R1) [607] on to the pub so I haven't got any window at the back.
Raymond (PS0PN) [608] It's all at the front, yes ... yes, yes
Joan (PS0R1) [609] I've only got the window at the front, so the dining area is quite dark
Raymond (PS0PN) [610] dark, yes yes.
Joan (PS0R1) [611] so ... but I wanted something bright in there you know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [612] Mm.
Joan (PS0R1) [613] But it was only a temporary [...] in there, [...] like the floor and everything ... just a, a brown carpet ... because of Honey
Raymond (PS0PN) [614] Oh yes
Joan (PS0R1) [615] with her season but now
Raymond (PS0PN) [616] right
Joan (PS0R1) [617] she doesn't have it now
Raymond (PS0PN) [618] yeah
Joan (PS0R1) [619] I shall get a nice carpet in there now ... you know?
Raymond (PS0PN) [620] It'll be right one day.
[621] ... Joan I think I'd better box on with the webbing here love, I haven't got enough
Joan (PS0R1) [622] Sorry?
Raymond (PS0PN) [623] I'll bo I'd better box on with the webbing on the back.
[624] ... Haven't got me glue anyway so [...]
Joan (PS0R1) [625] A box?
Raymond (PS0PN) [626] No, box ... a Coventry expression, get on
Joan (PS0R1) [627] Oh.
Raymond (PS0PN) [628] get on with me webbing on the back.
Joan (PS0R1) [629] [laugh] [...] what you were talking about
Raymond (PS0PN) [630] I'll box on
Joan (PS0R1) [631] box on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [632] So I want ... two down is it and three across?
[633] Something like that.
Joan (PS0R1) [634] Two down and three a er there's some there
Raymond (PS0PN) [635] Sound like a crossword.
[636] What?
Joan (PS0R1) [637] Webb is that what you're asking me for, some webbing?
Raymond (PS0PN) [638] No I've got webbing here.
[639] I've got, no
Joan (PS0R1) [640] Oh, well what are you asking me for?
[641] ... Oh ho how many to do.
Raymond (PS0PN) [642] I'm just saying I'll have I'll have to leave me foam to next week and [...] get some glue ... so er [...]
Joan (PS0R1) [643] Well there's some glue in the jar to stick some [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [644] But I can't see any there [...]
Joan (PS0R1) [645] Er the spray try the [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [646] Oh is that glue is it?
Joan (PS0R1) [647] Yeah it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [648] Oh is this the latest?
Joan (PS0R1) [649] Give it a good shake though [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [650] Oh er ...
Joan (PS0R1) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [651] oh I see, okay, give that a go.
[652] ... That's the latest ... that's the latest ... [singing] We'll take Manhattan [...] [] ... now then, couple [...] ... [...] it's quiet in here today John isn't it?
[653] There's not many folks
John (PS0PW) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [654] about, what?
[655] ... Oh smashing [...] ...
Joan (PS0R1) [656] Th that's where the erm ... the back
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Joan (PS0R1) [657] goes in too far.
Raymond (PS0PN) [658] Oh of course.
Joan (PS0R1) [659] See so I, in fact I was wondering whether to just [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [660] Couple of gimps maybe?
Joan (PS0R1) [661] you know just to a er er
Raymond (PS0PN) [662] Yeah.
Joan (PS0R1) [663] draw attention to the fact that they are ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [664] Yes.
Joan (PS0R1) [665] but it is round the back I know [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [666] Yeah, never be seen will it?
[667] I can't say
Joan (PS0R1) [668] three brass things, no it shouldn't be seen really, so I don't know whether I'm drawing attention to it by putting brass things [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [669] Yes that's the thing, of course.
[670] ... I s
Joan (PS0R1) [671] Cos it's got a handle on it now at the front ... here round the other side
Raymond (PS0PN) [672] Yes I'm gonna do mine something like this I think.
[673] Have you er ... it is sprung is it? ...
Joan (PS0R1) [674] Pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [675] Sprung?
Joan (PS0R1) [676] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [677] Ooh ... [...]
Joan (PS0R1) [678] [...] did it, they [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [679] Dear god.
[680] ... Bloody he
Joan (PS0R1) [681] It didn't actually have a handle on it.
[682] Just put one on it [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [683] Yeah
Joan (PS0R1) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [684] yeah ... well you could have a bit of ... material couldn't you?
Joan (PS0R1) [685] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [686] Looks a bit rough.
Joan (PS0R1) [687] Yeah [...] ... [whistling] Bloody hell! ...

6 (Tape 029806)

Raymond (PS0PN) [688] This webbing now is that alright love?
Joan (PS0R1) [689] Yes.
[690] Now you've, your material didn't go the other way on that ... these chairs did they, before you
Raymond (PS0PN) [691] No
Joan (PS0R1) [692] put the webbing on?
[693] Yes [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [694] it just goes on to the edge here. ...
Joan (PS0R1) [695] Oh yes. [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [696] I
Joan (PS0R1) [697] going to hide the back, all that webbing? ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [698] Oh no ... oh no wait a minute, no
Joan (PS0R1) [699] Yeah, you realize do you ... it's what it, what's wrong.
Raymond (PS0PN) [700] The, the fro the top cover should have gone on first should it?
Joan (PS0R1) [701] Material [...] gone on first. ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [702] Oh yes
Joan (PS0R1) [703] procedure for any tackle, if you haven't got any the cover must go that way.
Raymond (PS0PN) [704] oh I, I'd never, I I realize now from six weeks ago when I got the damn things
Joan (PS0R1) [705] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [706] and it's gone blank.
[707] ... Of course the top material's gotta go on first Joan hasn't it?
Joan (PS0R1) [708] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [709] What am I?
[710] ... Mm. [laugh]
Joan (PS0R1) [711] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [712] [laughing] Star pupil for doing such silly things [] .
[713] ... So really I'm stymied on that aren't I?
[714] What I'll do today
Joan (PS0R1) [715] Yeah you'll have to take those er those off and machine them all together.
[716] You can use them on something else.
Raymond (PS0PN) [717] Yeah well that's no problem.
[718] What I'll do, I'll measure up today for er
Joan (PS0R1) [719] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [720] the top material ... work out a plan for how much I'll want.
Joan (PS0R1) [721] How much you need.
Raymond (PS0PN) [722] I'll try and get through the [...] neutrally.
[723] ... I dunno
Joan (PS0R1) [724] Yeah, how many have, have you got?
Raymond (PS0PN) [725] Six.
Joan (PS0R1) [726] Six?
[727] ... Cos I might be putting a table in the sale ... on its own ... but it's a it's dark
Raymond (PS0PN) [728] Oh
Joan (PS0R1) [729] i it's darker than that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [730] oh.
Joan (PS0R1) [731] Yeah.
[732] ... Well actually it's mahogany, it's brown mahogany.
Raymond (PS0PN) [733] Oh, oh, oh.
[734] That's no good.
Joan (PS0R1) [735] Whether, you know, people might have bought them as a set otherwise.
Raymond (PS0PN) [736] Yeah, yeah that's what it wants, someone with big turned legs
Joan (PS0R1) [737] W yeah, some, some ... yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [738] on the table.
[739] You see them don't you?
[740] ... Oh well ...
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Joan (PS0R1) [741] Oh have you? ... [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [742] Oh you're doing a good job there John.
[743] How many did you say
John (PS0PW) [744] [...] today.
Raymond (PS0PN) [745] What are these?
[746] Two?
John (PS0PW) [747] No it's four.
Raymond (PS0PN) [748] Oh four, oh it's a set is it?
[749] Nice.
[750] Is it ... keeping these are you or ... ?
John (PS0PW) [751] For now.
[752] I'm really
Raymond (PS0PN) [753] Yeah
John (PS0PW) [754] after a set of six. [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [755] Ah, oh well yeah er
John (PS0PW) [756] But rea what I really want, is a set of six ... barley twist.
[757] I mean it's gonna take me ages trying to find them anyway.
[758] But I've got a barley twist table.
Raymond (PS0PN) [759] Ah you see them yeah, yeah table and you want them to match in
John (PS0PW) [760] [...] gonna make it er two eventually
Raymond (PS0PN) [761] Yes, yes
John (PS0PW) [762] but these will do, four of these will do temporary anyway
Raymond (PS0PN) [763] Yeah, nice.
John (PS0PW) [764] but I want a set of six in the end.
Raymond (PS0PN) [765] I mean how often do you use six?
John (PS0PW) [766] Well we do, there's five of us in the family see [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [767] Oh I see
John (PS0PW) [768] Yeah so
Raymond (PS0PN) [769] [...] we had four kids [...] ... I mean now it's only when we get visitors you know when
John (PS0PW) [770] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [771] there's only two of us, you get two visitors we're alright as a four
John (PS0PW) [772] Saying that we don't
Raymond (PS0PN) [773] We keep ours in the garage, the extra ... two carvers
John (PS0PW) [774] Oh yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [775] and they come down when you know, if we've got any
John (PS0PW) [776] When you need them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [777] Mm.
[778] Otherwise it's just a waste really.
John (PS0PW) [779] Well that's probably what I'm gonna have to do.
[780] You can get, you can get sets of four can't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [781] Oh yes
John (PS0PW) [782] But six [...] hard to get.
[783] I'll just try and get two carvers to match [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [784] Yeah, that's, that's the answer really and er if they're not quite the same you can get away with two carvers can't you?
[785] But er ... oh well ... Yeah this is what got me, I like the er the legs you know, the the backs I, I didn't like at all because you've got this blue [...]
John (PS0PW) [786] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [787] You've got no ... no m no wood that's showing you see, that's the trouble.
John (PS0PW) [788] Yes, yes.
[789] Yeah
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Raymond (PS0PN) [790] Erm but I'm hoping they'll ... put them on a, on the table when we sell them in here and there's ... that's the first thing that'll hit them is the turned legs you see?
John (PS0PW) [791] Nice.
Raymond (PS0PN) [792] This is a su survey. ...

7 (Tape 029807)

Joanna (PS0R2) [793] [...] finished at one point but it's veneered
Raymond (PS0PN) [794] Mm
Joanna (PS0R2) [795] But erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [796] this, but this was exposed then?
[797] ... The material
Joanna (PS0R2) [798] That, it's down to there, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [799] Oh that's a shame.
Joanna (PS0R2) [800] but this had been put on so it, it spoilt
Raymond (PS0PN) [801] Oh I see.
[802] Yeah, yes so
Joanna (PS0R2) [803] you know you'd got veneer and then you'd got really crappy wood.
Raymond (PS0PN) [804] The pine and that, yes.
Joanna (PS0R2) [805] But also people had put nails in the veneer and bits had fallen off and
Raymond (PS0PN) [806] Ruined it, yeah.
Joanna (PS0R2) [807] there wasn't any point in me trying
Raymond (PS0PN) [808] Felt like a bit of challenge there.
Joanna (PS0R2) [809] Well you know me ... nothing
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Joanna (PS0R2) [810] [laughing] if there's any woodworking going [...] []
Raymond (PS0PN) [811] Is this today is it?
Joanna (PS0R2) [812] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [813] Too late now.
Joanna (PS0R2) [814] Yes, but you went last week so I didn't ... but they'd got stuff for you
Raymond (PS0PN) [815] Oh I [...] I thought I had loads of [...]
Joanna (PS0R2) [816] Oh Ray!
Raymond (PS0PN) [817] Never mind my fault
Joanna (PS0R2) [818] Sorry I didn't ask because I knew
Raymond (PS0PN) [819] My fault.
[820] No, no
Joanna (PS0R2) [821] they'd got something for you
Raymond (PS0PN) [822] Actually er
Joanna (PS0R2) [823] last Friday didn't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [824] This erm ... [...]
Joanna (PS0R2) [825] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [826] Yeah, he got me some springs
Joanna (PS0R2) [827] Yes well that's why I didn't ask because I assumed
Raymond (PS0PN) [828] No
Joanna (PS0R2) [829] you'd ordered everything
Raymond (PS0PN) [830] no
Joanna (PS0R2) [831] Sorry.
Raymond (PS0PN) [832] I only need a bit.
[833] I can get some from er ... Chester perhaps, for what I want you know?
[834] So er ... how often does this ... do they go to [...] then, how often is this order?
[835] Is it ...
Joanna (PS0R2) [836] Er this is just one that ... I wanted some stuff and I said to a few people
Raymond (PS0PN) [837] Oh you went round?
[838] I see, yeah.
Joanna (PS0R2) [839] and they're delivering it.
[840] I've actually ... the last time I got some delivered for me was February ... so I tend to sort of get something about once a month I think.
Raymond (PS0PN) [841] Mm
Joanna (PS0R2) [842] It really depends what I'm doing, if I'm doing a lot of ... [...] stuff, then I don't need
Raymond (PS0PN) [843] Yeah
Joanna (PS0R2) [844] to go because I've got all the hair
Raymond (PS0PN) [845] Loads yeah
Joanna (PS0R2) [846] But at the moment I seem to have done a lot of [...] stuff with foam so ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [847] I tend to forget, me, honest to god I think I've ... plenty and then you come to the [...] you say oh god ... you know ... it's ... never mind.
Joanna (PS0R2) [848] Well next time I'll remember you.
Raymond (PS0PN) [849] Next time if you'd ask me, and I still won't know. [laugh]
Joanna (PS0R2) [...]

8 (Tape 029808)

Arthur (PS0R3) [850] Half past twelve!
[851] I might as well go through on this, I was gonna go in that one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [852] Yeah
Arthur (PS0R3) [853] I'll, I'll go, this fellow's moving now so I'll go in there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [854] So you've got a big garden have you Arth?
Arthur (PS0R3) [855] Oh, no
Raymond (PS0PN) [856] Oh.
Arthur (PS0R3) [857] got a ... decent size back garden.
Raymond (PS0PN) [858] Mine is, yes yes, yeah.
[859] ... It's er Birkenhead you live is it?
Arthur (PS0R3) [860] I live in [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [861] Oh you told me!
[862] But you're a Birkenhead guy are you?
Arthur (PS0R3) [863] No, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [864] Oh you're a scouser?
Arthur (PS0R3) [865] Mm mhm
Raymond (PS0PN) [866] What part?
Arthur (PS0R3) [867] Eh?
Raymond (PS0PN) [868] What part?
Arthur (PS0R3) [869] Manfield.
Raymond (PS0PN) [870] Oh that was the, the rough part.
Arthur (PS0R3) [871] Oh aye yeah, well I am rough aren't I? [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [872] Highton Highton I came [...] ... a nice part.
Arthur (PS0R3) [873] [...] rough are they.
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Arthur (PS0R3) [874] [...] never used to fight with [...] lads.
[875] [...] they're a tough crowd.

9 (Tape 029809)

Chris (PS0PV) [876] oh yeah ... watch the showers. [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [877] Yeah nasty aren't they?
Chris (PS0PV) [878] actually now isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [879] Oh it has come lovely now, with the old sun but ... there's more to come I think.
[880] ... Er where do you live Chris, you say Cristleton is it?
Chris (PS0PV) [881] No no I'm not
Raymond (PS0PN) [882] Oh it wouldn't be Cristleton
Chris (PS0PV) [883] far away.
[884] No erm [...] really
Raymond (PS0PN) [885] Oh you're not a
Chris (PS0PV) [886] on the Chester high road.
Raymond (PS0PN) [887] Oh yes
Chris (PS0PV) [888] You know the Shrewsbury Arms?
Raymond (PS0PN) [889] Oh yes?
Chris (PS0PV) [890] Well it's just
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Chris (PS0PV) [891] [...] the road at the back
Raymond (PS0PN) [892] [...] gardens we used to go there
Chris (PS0PV) [893] Yeah.
[894] Oh that's nice, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [895] Specially in the spring time when the azaleas are out and that.
Chris (PS0PV) [896] Yes [...] yeah.
[897] Yes oh [...] gardens is fabulous, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [898] Mm.
[899] But now you've gotta pay ...
Chris (PS0PV) [900] You have yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [901] so much to go in [...]
Chris (PS0PV) [902] Well we we used to join as a, you know, you could become a friend of [...] gardens
Raymond (PS0PN) [903] That's right, yeah
Chris (PS0PV) [904] [...] and it was quite reasonable.
[905] Now it's really gone a bit ... bit over the top I think.
Raymond (PS0PN) [906] Mm pay so much a year.
Chris (PS0PV) [907] So erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [908] Yes.
Chris (PS0PV) [909] Oh I used to pay a year from when you ... from when you first started paying but
Raymond (PS0PN) [910] Mm
Chris (PS0PV) [911] I've missed the one in January now and I think, oh [...] , I've paid for a year but [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [912] It's a lot of money.
Chris (PS0PV) [913] It's only odd days, it's ... it's perhaps lovely there in the winter when it's snowing and things [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [914] I know it's absolutely gorgeous.
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10 (Tape 029901)

Paul (PS0R4) [915] First seats ... will obviously ... in action ... Have you seen the papers?
Brian (PS0PR) [916] No No, the lady came to the house.
Raymond (PS0PN) [917] Well the lady came here
Paul (PS0R4) [918] Just knocked on the door?
Brian (PS0PR) [919] Yes.
[920] ... Yeah.
Paul (PS0R4) [921] A , and said what?
[922] ... And
Brian (PS0PR) [923] Well just read, just read what it says there.
Paul (PS0R4) [924] Well I mean
Brian (PS0PR) [925] Sh , what she said to me
Paul (PS0R4) [926] you could probably save me reading wouldn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [927] Yeah the doing er, say four, in this area but I [...] ... There were three.
Brian (PS0PR) [928] Some down in the Midlands.
[929] I think that's the same isn't it [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [930] And we selected all intelligent looking ones.
Brian (PS0PR) [931] [...] ... Yeah but [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [932] Bar one!
Brian (PS0PR) [933] showed him.
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Paul (PS0R4) [934] So they made a mistake filling it in?
Brian (PS0PR) [935] Anyway, she
Paul (PS0R4) [936] So we've still got the [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [937] Anyway he said so he couldn't do it!
Brian (PS0PR) [938] Well I'd only just brought it in the kitchen actually.
Paul (PS0R4) [939] Oh, I thought I'd give you a chance to put on your
Brian (PS0PR) [940] I don't care!
Paul (PS0R4) [941] your posh accent.
Brian (PS0PR) [942] Ray, had it [...] .
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Paul (PS0R4) [943] wasn't just for me ... I'd like to know him.
[944] ... You can, [...] ... [...] .
Cathy (PS0R5) [945] Careful!
Brian (PS0PR) [946] Totally, all the complications
Paul (PS0R4) [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [947] and of course, they've been absolutely abnormal.
Paul (PS0R4) [948] You still going on?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Paul (PS0R4) [949] Okay, it's on.
Brian (PS0PR) [950] No, not really [...] .
Paul (PS0R4) [951] Wherever a [...] [...] description of youth.
Raymond (PS0PN) [952] Well ... where have you been today?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Paul (PS0R4) [953] What is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [954] What have you been doing?
Paul (PS0R4) [955] Oh is it going?
Cathy (PS0R5) [956] It's good!
Brian (PS0PR) [957] Anyway, listen!
Paul (PS0R4) [958] Mm.
Cathy (PS0R5) [959] Do you want ... do you want any help to do these posts that's what your down as today?
Paul (PS0R4) [960] I think there's ... Want it on don't you?
Brian (PS0PR) [961] I just switched that on now yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [962] So er ... so you had a good time?
[963] What about
Paul (PS0R4) [964] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [965] [...] full life?
[966] ... I did your dad's figures as well.
Brian (PS0PR) [967] He came home at the home didn't you?
Cathy (PS0R5) [968] He had to come home!
Paul (PS0R4) [969] Oh!
[970] ... Well I've sa , is it secret?
Brian (PS0PR) [971] He went ... Paul [...] .
Paul (PS0R4) [972] Oh the other day?
Cathy (PS0R5) [973] Mm.
Brian (PS0PR) [974] Well Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
Paul (PS0R4) [975] For those who were staying there I mean.
Brian (PS0PR) [976] Did you have any ... Yeah, obviously [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [977] Oh well that's lucky I was gonna say did you have any
Paul (PS0R4) [978] No, no.
Brian (PS0PR) [979] paperwork to do at night.
Raymond (PS0PN) [980] We had some homework to do
Paul (PS0R4) [981] Yeah she did a little bit, yeah. ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [982] So is there a, a ... bar there and all this ... caper?
Paul (PS0R4) [983] Oh yeah ... yep.
Raymond (PS0PN) [984] Subsidised?
Paul (PS0R4) [985] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [986] No?
Paul (PS0R4) [987] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [988] I thought it might be like one of these clubs, you know.
Brian (PS0PR) [989] We chip in.
Raymond (PS0PN) [990] I'm getting bloody paranoid about that!
Paul (PS0R4) [991] Yeah, that's the trouble.
Brian (PS0PR) [992] [laughing] But no tha []
Raymond (PS0PN) [993] But
Cathy (PS0R5) [994] Yeah , when are going back, yeah.
Brian (PS0PR) [995] And this is just normal.
Paul (PS0R4) [996] Yeah, that's fine.
Raymond (PS0PN) [997] But seriously they want ten times whatever [...] !
Cathy (PS0R5) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [998] And the bricks!
Brian (PS0PR) [999] Ya.
Paul (PS0R4) [1000] [...] where else can you say
Cathy (PS0R5) [1001] and we had [...]
Paul (PS0R4) [1002] it's not the brick [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [laugh]
Brian (PS0PR) [1003] Not that old chestnut!
Cathy (PS0R5) [1004] Of course.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1005] So er ... got the pads ... seventeen quid weren't they?
[1006] ... No, seventeen pence ... you could do it yourself!
Paul (PS0R4) [1007] What do you mean?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1008] Yes, well when I hear ... [...] do the job couldn't you
Paul (PS0R4) [1009] How much?
[1010] ... Seventeen
Raymond (PS0PN) [1011] Seventeen yeah.
Paul (PS0R4) [1012] You're kidding!
[1013] Should of gone to [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Paul (PS0R4) [1014] to do ... they did mine for fifteen quid!
[1015] ... Brake shoes ... and that Dixons as well!
[1016] ... Oh no, tell a lie ... twenty five quid it was.
Cathy (PS0R5) [1017] Well this [...]
Paul (PS0R4) [1018] Fitted!
Cathy (PS0R5) [1019] car.
Paul (PS0R4) [1020] Oh Emma's isn't fitted [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1021] This is the Volvo though isn't it?
Cathy (PS0R5) [1022] Expensive
Paul (PS0R4) [1023] [...] on the
Brian (PS0PR) [1024] Volvos.
Paul (PS0R4) [1025] The price is usually cheaper than [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1026] Well [...] Renault first.
Brian (PS0PR) [1027] Yeah.
[1028] ... Oh was that for the Renault in?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1029] And the
Cathy (PS0R5) [1030] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1031] tried to give
Brian (PS0PR) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1032] which you've gotta do the [...] cos they
Brian (PS0PR) [1033] Not bad!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1034] so much fluid in the grill.
[1035] ... And all the rest!
[1036] ... They tied the car so they could get in the vice.
[1037] ... The [...] Volvo [...] .
[1038] ... It's alright to use.
[1039] ... Sally said we had to [...] ... anyway, I did one side didn't I?
Brian (PS0PR) [1040] Yeah.
[1041] ... Carefully!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1042] Open the [...] ... Ahhh!
[1043] ... Then go do the other side
Brian (PS0PR) [1044] Haven't got much of a bump!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1045] And the er
Brian (PS0PR) [1046] [laughing] There's nothing there [] !
Cathy (PS0R5) [1047] No.
Brian (PS0PR) [1048] You looked bigger at [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1049] Honest, and stuff like that
Brian (PS0PR) [1050] Seems to going longer doesn't it?
Cathy (PS0R5) [1051] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1052] That isn't due for an hour there ... So January [...]
Paul (PS0R4) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1053] it snapped off!
[1054] ... So what do you do?
[1055] There's the calibre with the, with the gone!
[1056] ... So I
Brian (PS0PR) [1057] [shouting] Don't [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [1058] I end up going to Greenfield
Brian (PS0PR) [1059] Get down!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1060] Twenty five pound for a second hand one plus
Paul (PS0R4) [1061] Ooh Jesus!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1062] Seventy pound in the ... Volvo.
Paul (PS0R4) [1063] I thought you were gonna say you've broke the engine mounting on the machine
Cathy (PS0R5) [1064] [whispering] What can we do [] ?
Paul (PS0R4) [1065] and then you had to go and let it ... get a new engine!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1066] This is bad enough!
Paul (PS0R4) [1067] All because of a brake that was
Brian (PS0PR) [1068] Don't joke about things like that Paul, please!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1069] But you know he'd got a huge parlour there was nothing wrong within this one thing ... and you know, we tried to drill it out you know
Brian (PS0PR) [1070] What?
Cathy (PS0R5) [1071] Mm.
Brian (PS0PR) [1072] Ha [...] !
[1073] ... You'll knock it off!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1074] [...] the seating [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1075] Go on off, off, off!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1076] We went down to the [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1077] Oh oh oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1078] buy a bowl of stuff [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1079] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1080] He said here are ... and tapping him over the nose [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1081] He puts his head sort of, down
Cathy (PS0R5) [1082] Oh!
Brian (PS0PR) [1083] the end of his neck doesn't he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1084] So, but when I tried it it
Cathy (PS0R5) [1085] Very funny!
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1086] Just all the luck of draw isn't it with things like that?
Paul (PS0R4) [1087] Oh yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [1088] You've just gotta be
Brian (PS0PR) [1089] Mhm.
Cathy (PS0R5) [1090] [laughing] [...] [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [1091] If it's ... if it seems solid
Brian (PS0PR) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1092] then you ... you got no
Paul (PS0R4) [1093] Stay away from the [...] ! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1094] pipes.
[1095] ... The actual hose is about that long.
[1096] ... It looked as though he ... it was all in one
Paul (PS0R4) [1097] Keep him quiet.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1098] and then I spoke to the feller, said aye!
Paul (PS0R4) [1099] Is that the union?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1100] It's supposed [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1101] It's something there ... in a magazine the other week there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1102] Found something wrong with his [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1103] What animals do, like and what it means.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1104] he said they just ... do.
Cathy (PS0R5) [1105] And they were saying that ... when they lick each others [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1106] Yeah ... what does that
Cathy (PS0R5) [1107] you know?
[1108] Apparently
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1109] it's the ... the one who's doing the
Paul (PS0R4) [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1110] licking is looking at the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1111] But they tell you
Brian (PS0PR) [1112] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1113] whatever they do
Brian (PS0PR) [1114] it means
Raymond (PS0PN) [1115] is the turn ... [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1116] I thought [...] now erm ... sort of
Raymond (PS0PN) [1117] So I did that both sides so that
Cathy (PS0R5) [1118] Like he's sort of saying that he's the boss!
Brian (PS0PR) [1119] Li like the leader of the [...] .
Cathy (PS0R5) [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1120] Yeah.
Cathy (PS0R5) [1121] Could be alternatively ... older ones or something like that.
Cathy (PS0R5) [1122] Well [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1123] Well I'll tell you what ... ah, you'll never be er
Cathy (PS0R5) [1124] Ja just rubbing and giving him [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1125] Oh, he could of er
Paul (PS0R4) [1126] He started [...] on my Renault
Brian (PS0PR) [1127] Subjugated!
Cathy (PS0R5) [laugh]
Paul (PS0R4) [1128] and it's been running well since I just
Cathy (PS0R5) [1129] [...] they'd have to.
Paul (PS0R4) [1130] keep your fingers crossed and not [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1131] Oh I don't know I had a subjugated [...] about that.
Cathy (PS0R5) [1132] They do [...] .
Brian (PS0PR) [1133] So
Paul (PS0R4) [1134] Fair does like ... rather than
Cathy (PS0R5) [1135] Mm,tha , that's why I didn't say like
Paul (PS0R4) [1136] [...] paying out for a
Cathy (PS0R5) [1137] [laughing] [...] feet aren't they sometimes [] ?
Paul (PS0R4) [1138] And the brake pads had gone
Brian (PS0PR) [1139] Yeah.
Paul (PS0R4) [...]
Brian (PS0PR) [1140] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1141] Oh yes, you've gotta replace them
Brian (PS0PR) [1142] They're sort of saying ... that you are really testing your
Paul (PS0R4) [1143] I mean, I replace mine
Cathy (PS0R5) [1144] To see that
Paul (PS0R4) [1145] but but the brakes
Brian (PS0PR) [1146] Mm.
Cathy (PS0R5) [1147] But [...] they don't [...] your
Paul (PS0R4) [1148] But the brakes [...] literally bleed them
Cathy (PS0R5) [1149] I mean your cat.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1150] No I did that before
Brian (PS0PR) [1151] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1152] to do ... it's not very dangerous.
Paul (PS0R4) [1153] I hope so.
[1154] ... You wonder what that is
Cathy (PS0R5) [...]
Paul (PS0R4) [1155] same as you have in the [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1156] A delightful thing to be i I think you was doing the same to Cathy weren't you?
[1157] And, everyone goes ... Cathy can [...] the meeting.
Paul (PS0R4) [1158] Well at the [...] what's er
Cathy (PS0R5) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Cathy (PS0R5) [1159] What?
Brian (PS0PR) [laughing] [...]
Cathy (PS0R5) [laugh]
Brian (PS0PR) [1160] just walking back [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [1161] That I think will be
Brian (PS0PR) [1162] Perfect wife!
Cathy (PS0R5) [laugh]
Brian (PS0PR) [1163] Good heavens!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1164] With the greenhouse [...] .

11 (Tape 029902)

Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [1165] What's this, the Boy's Brigade?
Brian (PS0PR) [1166] Yes it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1167] My God Almighty!
Brian (PS0PR) [1168] Here comes the [...] boys.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1169] Where are you from, from Mould
Nik (PS0R6) [1170] Cygerly
Raymond (PS0PN) [1171] Cygerly ... Oh, aye!
[1172] ... Live in hope ... die in Cygerly , ay?
Brian (PS0PR) [1173] Well ... well I've got them all wedged in now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1174] Oh no!
[1175] ... Bu
Brian (PS0PR) [1176] There we go ... right.
Nik (PS0R6) [1177] Thank you [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1178] Okay!
Nik (PS0R6) [1179] Thank you!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1180] Bye!
Nik (PS0R6) [1181] And

12 (Tape 029903)

Dorothy (PS0R7) [1182] Went to the hospital with a ... lady down the road
Margaret (PS0PP) [1183] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1184] and Val was on the, got to be home from where ... you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1185] Oh yes
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1186] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1187] Yes.
[1188] ... I did phone her a few weeks ago and she said, ooh I'll have to see you on Friday ... in Mould you know get a
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1189] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1190] a bit of a coffee but er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1191] Oh well, we were coming home on the bu , rest bus together.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1192] Oh yes.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1193] Well she's fine yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1194] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1195] Well.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1196] Still working?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1197] She normally get's a [...] ... in
Margaret (PS0PP) [1198] Oh
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1199] in Wrexham.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1200] Is she still ... working at [...]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1201] She didn't
Margaret (PS0PP) [1202] or
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1203] no ... on the [...] ?
[1204] Did she
Margaret (PS0PP) [1205] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1206] Did she work in Prescott
Margaret (PS0PP) [1207] I, I thought she'd ... no, she went
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1208] She's to
Margaret (PS0PP) [1209] she went to Lesher didn't
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1210] No, she told me she went
Margaret (PS0PP) [1211] she?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1212] No, she told me she was in another place, I've never heard of it, [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [1213] I'm sure somebody told me that she was working with the ... trainee ... at er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1214] Oh, well she told me she was working, but I'd never heard of, some sewing place, it must be in Wrexham.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1215] Oh did she?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1216] [...] but she said they'd laid her off.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1217] Oh!
[1218] ... Ooh dear, so er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1219] But at moment she isn't working but she said
Margaret (PS0PP) [1220] In between.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1221] for them to ring her back.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1222] Oh!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1223] So she said they've rang her back cos ... you know ... I think she's going there again.
[1224] ... But I don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [1225] Mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1226] Bretfords sh , well she said, I'm sure she didn't say Bretfords
Margaret (PS0PP) [1227] No, I ... I think it was somebody I was talking to from Bretford who said that she'd gone ... she was looking after the
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1228] Oh maybe, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1229] trainees in Leighbridge Do you remember when they had them
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1230] That's right yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1231] For so many months I think didn't they?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1232] That's right.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1233] And then ... cos I said, ooh are, are they going to open up again?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1234] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1235] But er ... but it hasn't has it?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1236] It wasn't anything no.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1237] And nobody's taken the place over have they?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1238] No it's just bought, well ... they've got planks across it now, save the cars turning round in there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1239] Oh, boarded up the street?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1240] Well, you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [1241] The, the access roads, yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1242] Down [...] street ... people going and parking up there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1243] Do , oh!
[1244] What a shame!
[1245] I mean
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1246] And it's ... at the end it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [1247] The whole village ... relied on that
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1248] got a sale board
Margaret (PS0PP) [1249] didn't they for
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1250] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1251] work?
[1252] ... I wonder what
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1253] for sale or rent.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1254] It's awful for the people that's at the wrong age, and too early to ... retire really it's
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1255] Yeah yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [1256] You know early fifties and
Margaret (PS0PP) [1257] Too old to get another job!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1258] Yeah, but it's all, Christ
Raymond (PS0PN) [1259] Er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1260] I mean you can't flaming well drive in, can't get out village!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1261] No, when are you having driving lessons?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1262] Ohhhh dear dear!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1263] Oh [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [1264] [laughing] Is that another story is it [] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1265] You want empty road you see when you're trying
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1266] one lady said to me ... take everyone else
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1267] [laughing] [...] [] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [1268] off the road and I'll be happy! [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1269] Isn't he terrible!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1270] Oh!
[1271] ... I'm er
Margaret (PS0PP) [1272] Is he
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1273] I, yeah ... I go ... well I've started going again now ... er ... [...] aren't very good!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1274] He said to me ... [...] should add [...] ... erm ... you know like being
Margaret (PS0PP) [1275] Bit like
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1276] [...] is what he said.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1277] Oh.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1278] And he said you'll be able to go round the roundabout then I [...] the flaming things!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1279] So he said you couldn't have done!
[1280] So I sa have, so I told him what he said, and he said ... well that's exactly what it says in the book!
[1281] I said yes, well why don't you do it?
[1282] I said because in the bloody book there's no cars on the roundabout and I says it [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1283] I said you bring me three o'clock
Margaret (PS0PP) [1284] You really [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1285] in the morning I'll go round the roundabout for you when it's empty!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1286] Mm, that's it ... innit?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1287] I said but when I come here there are cars everywhere, I says on ... on the picture
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1288] there isn't a car in sight!
[1289] He sat there and burst out laughing but he said ... yeah you're right, [laughing] there isn't [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1290] Did you tend to come on
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1291] No well [...] [...] ... well I've started again now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1292] Yeah.
[1293] ... Does Yvonne go out with you or
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1294] No ... because she's got an X R two and their, the insurance is too high for her to
Margaret (PS0PP) [1295] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1296] to insure it for me.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1297] Oh God, yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1298] Mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1299] Well the insurance for her is higher then.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1300] How's she doing anyway ... still in er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1301] She's doing a [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1302] [...] ?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1303] now in er ... [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [1304] Oh good!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1305] It's a new thing come out now ... I don't know whether it's [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1306] Two, er, two two thousand is it?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1307] Project two thousand.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1308] Yes.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1309] Is that it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1310] Project two thousand
Raymond (PS0PN) [1311] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1312] that's right yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1313] She has
Raymond (PS0PN) [1314] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1315] to do so many big things, Bangor the University and so many [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [1316] Yeah ... yeah ... it
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1317] So they get like a degree or something
Margaret (PS0PP) [1318] it's
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1319] at the end of it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1320] It's strange well ... erm ... I mean with, Bon's just qualified now ... and she trying to get a job down in Portsmouth but erm ... you know they're not they don't
Raymond (PS0PN) [1321] Terrible!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1322] seem to be recruiting at the moment.
[1323] ... But erm ... she was saying ... there were a group that she sort of went ... were alongside their group which were the
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1324] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1325] Project two thousand, but it ... it seems to be mostly class work ... and very
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1326] Yeah well
Margaret (PS0PP) [1327] little practical work, whereas ... the group she was in ... you know, it was so many weeks of school but the majority
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1328] [...] like Bonny hasn't she [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1329] of it was actually ... on the ward isn't it?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1330] But he won't ... come in Wrexham now they're not on the wards much.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1331] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1332] No.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1333] And they only get advantage of getting [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1334] A lot of it's er
Margaret (PS0PP) [1335] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [1336] theory isn't it I believe ... er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1337] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1338] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1339] they don't get a great [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1340] Which ... I mean for er ... for a hospital taking people on like that, I mean erm ... I would of said ... i it would ... would of been a better proposition to have somebody who's at least experienced.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1341] Or ... well Yvonne said she wouldn't
Margaret (PS0PP) [1342] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1343] have ever gone into nursing now because she said I wouldn't do it for a grant.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1344] No.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1345] You know I
Raymond (PS0PN) [1346] No.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1347] wouldn't go for three years for a grant and just
Margaret (PS0PP) [1348] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1349] No.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1350] get nurses wages at the end of it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1351] That's
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1352] right yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1353] If I was gonna get a job
Margaret (PS0PP) [1354] There's no incentive at all is there?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1355] I'd go for something for higher wages at the end of it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1356] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1357] Yes.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1358] But, you know ... she goes mad!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1359] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1360] But she had a job as a nursing sister in erm ... Yale , the private hospital before she done her midwifery but she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [1361] Oh yeah!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1362] always wanted to do a midi so
Margaret (PS0PP) [1363] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1364] she left that and she's gone ... to do her midwifery ... and now when she gets ... the other day she was looking at old pay slips ... God, she must have been an idiot to give up a sister's post cos she said ... her wages have dropped terrible to do this course!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1365] That's terrible isn't it?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1366] Cos they won't pay you a sister's grade, they'll only ... pay you an E grade.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1367] Yeah, that's right.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1368] To do a course.
[1369] ... They'll
Margaret (PS0PP) [1370] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1371] only go so high to do a course ... and she was on an F grade so she had to ... be taken down.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1372] So she could drop.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1373] And she said, when she qualifies it will be years before she's gets back to an F grade!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1374] It's just ridiculous [...] .
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1375] And they don't automatically give them a higher grade after a, [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [1376] So they've gotta go through that waiting period before you
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1377] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1378] build up to the
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1379] Wait for someone to ... die or retire or something
Margaret (PS0PP) [1380] Oh dear!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1381] for you to go in
Margaret (PS0PP) [1382] She'll have to put a ... banana skin at the top of the stairs
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1383] that's their job isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1384] for somebody!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1385] It is, it's bad isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1386] Yeah, yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1387] And she goes mad!
[1388] ... And then
Margaret (PS0PP) [1389] If er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1390] they train in [...] in Wrexham, in the midwifery ... she says they haven't trained any for two years and they're not training any next year either!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1391] Well I know Bon said er they'd they'd cut down on the recruiting ... in fact, I think they'd closed one of the hospitals in Bristol ... in the Frenchay where she is ... has actually got to take ... erm ... qualified nurses from that hospital ... before they take student nurses that they've trained
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1392] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1393] so ... you know, I mean it's gonna be difficult for a lot of them when they go.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1394] But she went to Caborange to do her orthopaedics didn't she?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1395] Mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1396] And she was toying with the idea whether to go and do her midwifery cos that's what she wanted to do
Margaret (PS0PP) [1397] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1398] and then she said, well like, you know, I don't know!
[1399] ... Anyway, she went to ... she took this ... sister's post in The Yale
Margaret (PS0PP) [1400] Mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1401] to wait for her midwifery to come through ... and then er ... they've closed that
Margaret (PS0PP) [1402] Does she have to
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1403] ward.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1404] pay for this course ... by the way?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1405] No, she gets paid on any rate.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1406] Oh, I see.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1407] See, Bon would have pay ... for
Margaret (PS0PP) [1408] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1409] going on an extra ... she said after
Margaret (PS0PP) [1410] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1411] she'd finished her training she's had to
Margaret (PS0PP) [1412] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1413] actually pay for the course!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1414] They do in ... erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [1415] for the
Margaret (PS0PP) [1416] Wendy, our neighbour's daughter's erm
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1417] Was that erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [1418] she's gonna have to pay for
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1419] ward management course they paid for, some of them
Raymond (PS0PN) [1420] No it wasn't [...]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1421] cos some girl went on a ward management course
Raymond (PS0PN) [1422] I'm not sure now.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1423] and they have to pay.
[1424] ... But Yvonne was sent to do that on Cabowin she was lucky!
[1425] She went on a ... they sent her on a ward management course there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1426] Oh so
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1427] So she's had that
Margaret (PS0PP) [1428] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1429] she's got her orthopaedics ... that orthopaedics ward's closed down now!
[1430] ... So it's a good job she didn't ... move on there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1431] That's terrible isn't it?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1432] Cos she said luckily I
Margaret (PS0PP) [1433] And the , there's a crying need for the ... for nurses in the hospitals and wards ... and the , and they sort of they're cutting down ... you know, on the hospital programme ... closing wards ... er, not employing nurses when they need them ... you know, and they're trying to get
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1434] And the private hospitals are [...] and she
Margaret (PS0PP) [1435] one person to do five people's jobs!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1436] came from the hospital to ... to do her midwifery ... and there was a boy ... in Wrexham Hospital ... he'd give up the permanent job to go to The Yale
Margaret (PS0PP) [1437] Mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1438] and ... he was saying a month and they'd laid him off and he can't back into Wrexham Hospital!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1439] Oh good!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1440] But that is awful isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1441] Well you'd think that there'd be plenty of er opportunities in the private ... sector wouldn't you?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1442] Apparently what they're doing in the private sector taking er ... ooh what do you call them?
[1443] ... Yvonne does it
Margaret (PS0PP) [1444] Oh, like erm
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1445] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1446] Like er, I was going to say a stand-by, what
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1447] Oh Gosh!
[1448] ... Yeah, you
Margaret (PS0PP) [1449] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1450] know, like contact ... so when they need
Margaret (PS0PP) [1451] As they like, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1452] Ohhhh!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1453] That's right.
[1454] ... Well actually you know, Bon said this on the phone the other day
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1455] Yvonne does that when she can't
Margaret (PS0PP) [1456] she said I may have
Raymond (PS0PN) [1457] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1458] to do an agency ... erm
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1459] Cos she does that, now she's give up her
Margaret (PS0PP) [1460] like a fill-in
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1461] sister's post
Margaret (PS0PP) [1462] but she doesn't want to, cos I said, oh for heaven's sake don't undermine
Dorothy (PS0R7) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1463] the National Health Service, I said it's undermined enough!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1464] Yeah, well
Margaret (PS0PP) [1465] From the private sector, but she said
Raymond (PS0PN) [1466] What can you do?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1467] well ... er, you know if ... it comes to it I'll have to.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1468] Well Yvonne went into the private to get er ... a sister's post ... and sh ... but she knew she was gonna do her midwifery, so she knew she wasn't gonna stay there ... but when she went it's become ... when she does her midwifery for the sister's post, ah but she's got experience hasn't she when she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [1469] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1470] done it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1471] She's got the erm ... the qualification there.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1472] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1473] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1474] That's right.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1475] So er
Raymond (PS0PN) [1476] You know, they should get everything given to them shouldn't they, nurses?
[1477] They work that hard it's ... they devoted ... shouldn't have to fight over ruddy rates and
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1478] Well, you know, I mean she's gone ... to midwifery now and she's, say she's due home, half nine ... she'll come home eleven o'clock and I'll say where have you been till now?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1479] Mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1480] Well, well there was a woman half way through delivery so we can't leave!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1481] Oh aye!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1482] That's right, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1483] Gotta carry on.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1484] [...] ... Bon has often said that we're supposed to finish at
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1485] You don't get overtime!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1486] nine o'clock but I was there till half
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1487] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1488] past nine!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1489] But they don't get
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1490] overtime!
[1491] They're
Margaret (PS0PP) [1492] No.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1493] not allowed to pay them overtime!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1494] No, that's right.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1495] You know it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [1496] Er, it's
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1497] And she was saying, cos her friend works in a bank ... and she's just taken a mortgage on because they get so much knocked off their mortgage don't they, if you work in a
Margaret (PS0PP) [1498] Mm mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1499] bank?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1500] Mm mm. [car horn]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1501] So that girl's only paying a hundred pound a month mortgage on ... it's only a terraced house but
Margaret (PS0PP) [1502] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1503] but Yvonne was saying on my wages I wouldn't get a mortgage!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1504] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1505] No.
[1506] ... No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1507] No.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1508] The only mortgage I'd get was for twenty odd thousand.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1509] [...] double that you see, wouldn't it be the
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1510] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1511] interest with the
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1512] Well she was saying
Margaret (PS0PP) [1513] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1514] they wouldn't give you one on your wages!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1515] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1516] They'd give you one for twenty odd thousand, where you gonna get a house for twenty odd thousand?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1517] Exactly!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1518] Nothing!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1519] So she's just done all that training, she said, you know she's done her
Margaret (PS0PP) [1520] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1521] training, she's done her orthopaedics
Raymond (PS0PN) [...] [...]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1522] done her
Margaret (PS0PP) [1523] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1524] midi's ... and she still can't afford ... a mortgage on her own!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1525] Still can't, yeah.
[1526] Cos you're at
Raymond (PS0PN) [1527] Right, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1528] the bottom of the ladder!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1529] You know and
Raymond (PS0PN) [1530] And the poor people of ... of the so so society, it's wrong isn't it?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1531] You know, it's wrong really when they've done all that training!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1532] Well they sort of
Margaret (PS0PP) [1533] How's your son anyway?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1534] Oh fine!
[1535] About time!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1536] Not a grandmother yet?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1537] Oh yes, oh, she was [...] three haven't I?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1538] Oh!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1539] And erm ... the baby she's four months old.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1540] Oh lovely! ... [...] that's my [...] is
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1541] Are your grandchildren alright?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1542] Yes, fine yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [1543] Oh alright.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1544] they're all at school now.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1545] Ahhh!
[1546] ... Is your daughter alright?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1547] So ... yes, she's coping quite well she's thinking of erm ... doing a course as Kelvedel College
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1548] Oh that's nice!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1549] been down there asking about er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1550] [...] won't she?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1551] you know, different courses [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1552] Give her a bit of interest other than
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1553] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [1554] the house and the
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1555] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1556] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1557] kids
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1558] Yeah, this is it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1559] It means getting away from the children all the time.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1560] I mean, she's only young isn't she?
[1561] You know, get
Raymond (PS0PN) [1562] Oh God yes!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1563] mixing with ... you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [1564] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1565] With adults!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1566] with other people!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1567] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1568] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Dorothy (PS0R7) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1569] Yeah, it's true though.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1570] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1571] Nine o'clock she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [1572] Real world.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1573] sitting on [laugh] her own, isn't she talking to the eldest one who is
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1574] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1575] only what?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1576] Yeah I mean, it's children
Raymond (PS0PN) [1577] Nine!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1578] or people your age isn't it, you know she's
Raymond (PS0PN) [1579] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1580] with?
[1581] She wants to get her someone her ow ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1582] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1583] I mean she's young
Raymond (PS0PN) [1584] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1585] isn't she?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1586] That's right, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1587] Oh gosh, yes, that's right!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1588] Yeah, I mean she wants to get out and
Raymond (PS0PN) [1589] She wants a rich ... good looking chap then, she
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1590] They all
Margaret (PS0PP) [1591] Yeah
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1592] [laugh] want that, I mean ... as my mum said, I'm looking for a
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1593] millionaire
Margaret (PS0PP) [1594] They're thin on the ground!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1595] but there don't seem to be any around [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1596] I've had to go out looking for one all these years!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1597] I'm looking for a millionaire, she says but I don't see many around ... I said what about the doctors?
[1598] Well if you fancy a black one there's plenty [laughing] but she don't fancy them [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1599] Poor men!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1600] Ay!
[1601] ... Can marry a a bad white one!
[1602] ... Our daughter
Margaret (PS0PP) [1603] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1604] You can
Raymond (PS0PN) [1605] did, my God, yes!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1606] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1607] Colour means nothing!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1608] No.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1609] No, you can ma , you can ... just what they are isn't it
Raymond (PS0PN) [1610] No matter what they are
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1611] that counts?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1612] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1613] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1614] Anyway, I'd suppose we'd better go.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1615] The trouble is all the coloured doctors have got arranged marriages over there they only
Raymond (PS0PN) [1616] Ah!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1617] want a girl
Raymond (PS0PN) [1618] Oh!
[1619] ... Ooh yes, oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1620] fill in the time till they go
Raymond (PS0PN) [1621] oh that's no good!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1622] back!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1623] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1624] Oh you mean the er
Margaret (PS0PP) [1625] Arranged marriages.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1626] Ira Iranians?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1627] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1628] Ooh!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1629] And lot's of them of stopped that [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1630] Mm.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1631] I've said [...] last year [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1632] Ooh that's slavery!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1633] and taken in like that, they've even gone and lived with them!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1634] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1635] And then all of a sudden they've disappeared, I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [1636] That's it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1637] [laughing] Oh [] !
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1638] they're marriages are [laughing] all arranged [] cos they got
Margaret (PS0PP) [1639] Oh
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1640] [laughing] I'm
Margaret (PS0PP) [1641] dear
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1642] not that stupid [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [1643] Just think how lucky you are!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1644] Why?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1645] Well ... how soft we are ... th ... compared with those chaps!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1646] Ay?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1647] They've got a slave haven't they?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1648] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [1649] It's
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1650] you have
Raymond (PS0PN) [1651] the opposite here!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1652] They'd have you carrying the coconuts on your head
Margaret (PS0PP) [1653] Dream on!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1654] from the palm trees!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1655] No!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1656] At water!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1657] Yeah, they [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1658] Oh dear!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1659] Go down here [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1660] Oh dear!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1661] Well, good luck with the driving!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1662] Oh I [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1663] Keep at it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1664] Let us know when you're coming out ... a we , and we'll stay in
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1665] So you can all stay in!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1666] especially on the roundabouts!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1667] [laugh] ... Three o'clock in the morning you'll be alright!
[1668] Three am.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1669] [laugh] ... [laughing] That's right [] !
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1670] That's what I said to him, I said if you sent me to a
Margaret (PS0PP) [1671] No, you keep at it!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1672] driving lesson in the middle of the night I'd be alright! ... [...] better.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1673] Once you ... once you get into it it's ... it's the same for everyone isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1674] It's confidence isn't it?
[1675] It's developing
Raymond (PS0PN) [1676] And, of course
Margaret (PS0PP) [1677] confidence.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1678] the later you leave it
Margaret (PS0PP) [1679] Mind you, I've always been amazed
Raymond (PS0PN) [1680] You know
Margaret (PS0PP) [1681] that at ... people being able to get into a car and never driven before ... and be allowed out onto a highway!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1682] Yes!
[1683] ... Yeah, it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [1684] I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [1685] very traumatic!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1686] you know I would of thought the, the first thing would be
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1687] To be honest Margaret I was never, never was in a car
Margaret (PS0PP) [1688] to learn the mechanics of the car.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1689] I mean, I was quite happy sitting there being driven around I was [...] other people!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1690] That's right, yes, it's nice isn't it?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1691] But er
Margaret (PS0PP) [1692] Till the chauffeur er ... isn't there, you know!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1693] You can't, it must be [...] since Paul did ... and the man turned up ... and [...] to Yvonne, I'm not going [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [cough]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1694] you'll go to the industrial estate mum, she said ... don't worry ... she said he'll drive
Margaret (PS0PP) [1695] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1696] you there ... and she said, you'll be alright. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [cough]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1697] to the pub, do you know The Prince?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1698] Yeah, yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1699] Drove me to there and he said, here are get in!
[1700] I went ... this isn't the industrial estate!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1701] [laugh] ... Ha ha, this is the road!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1702] Said, get in!
[1703] ... And I had to drive to Mould oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1704] Nerves all the way!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1705] [...] and I
Raymond (PS0PN) [1706] It is , it is er
Margaret (PS0PP) [1707] Yeah.
[1708] ... The trouble is the industrial estate is full of learner drivers just like yourself!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1709] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1710] Yeah.
[1711] ... More
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1712] So
Raymond (PS0PN) [1713] traffic there.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1714] Yvonne said
Margaret (PS0PP) [1715] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1716] to me that's where they took her the first time, they didn't take her right on the ... the roads, you know, the first time she'd
Margaret (PS0PP) [1717] Yes.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1718] ever been in a car!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1719] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1720] But the kids have got more ... confidence haven't they?
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1721] They have they
Raymond (PS0PN) [1722] They must have when you're twenty something, you know, they've got less fear.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1723] I think they're
Margaret (PS0PP) [1724] Yeah, yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1725] they're not afraid of anything are they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1726] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [1727] I mean, when our Bon was learning I went with her a few times she frightened the life out of me!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1728] But yeah I know [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1729] Well I mean I
Margaret (PS0PP) [1730] I think er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1731] They've got the nerve haven't they?
[1732] I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [1733] Yeah.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1734] you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [1735] Well , they haven't got the experience to realise ... what would happen if er
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1736] What being too [...] you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1737] That's right yeah.
[1738] ... Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1739] When I learned it was horse and carts on the roads! ... [laugh]
Dorothy (PS0R7) [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [1740] Do you
Margaret (PS0PP) [1741] What
Raymond (PS0PN) [1742] That
Margaret (PS0PP) [1743] is he like?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [1744] buy a [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1745] That's a joke!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1746] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [1747] Would you like buy a flag for the [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1748] Another one?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1749] Here, look here I've got a badge
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [1750] i oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1751] already!
[1752] ... You've been to me once!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1753] They're [...] flags yo
Raymond (PS0PN) [1754] Where's the flag?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1755] I don't mind
Raymond (PS0PN) [1756] Here are!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1757] supporting the Boy's Brigade once, but
Raymond (PS0PN) [1758] I thought he was gonna come dressed as a boy scout this time!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1759] Here are!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [1760] [laugh] ... Thanks a lot!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1761] Okay, well we'll have
Raymond (PS0PN) [1762] Anyway
Margaret (PS0PP) [1763] to get going anyway Dot.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1764] All the best!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1765] Take care.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1766] See you soon.
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1767] Okay, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1768] Bye bye [...] love.
Margaret (PS0PP) [1769] Keep up with your lessons.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1770] Bye!
Dorothy (PS0R7) [1771] Bye now!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1772] Where you going now?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1773] I was gonna get eggs, that's what I was ... gonna head in here for.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1774] Oh get them in Buckley now, come on!
Margaret (PS0PP) [1775] Yes.
[1776] ... I've got to get milk anyway so

13 (Tape 029904)

Raymond (PS0PN) [1777] What, what sort of music would you like me play?
Laura (PS0R8) [1778] Any.
Scott (PS0R9) [1779] Any.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1780] Any?
Scott (PS0R9) [1781] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1782] What does that mean?
Scott (PS0R9) [1783] Any!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1784] I want you
Laura (PS0R8) [1785] Any kind.
Scott (PS0R9) [1786] Any music!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1787] Well don't you like pop music or ... what's your favourite?
Scott (PS0R9) [1788] Ooh ... Jason Donovan!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1789] Oh no!
[1790] ... What's the
Laura (PS0R8) [1791] I don't mind.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1792] Well go on, you've gotta say something!
Laura (PS0R8) [1793] Kylie Minogue.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1794] Kylie Minogue.
[1795] ... Kylie Minogue?
[1796] I don't know her, I don't that!
[1797] I know Whitney Houston.
Scott (PS0R9) [1798] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [1799] Is she good is she?
Scott (PS0R9) [1800] Michael Jackson.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1801] Oh I know him!
[1802] ... Yes, one that's got the er
Scott (PS0R9) [1803] Yeah ... have him.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1804] White face.
Laura (PS0R8) [1805] No, he's got a black face!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1806] I know, but he's had all this treatment hasn't he, to make his ... face white.
Laura (PS0R8) [1807] Yeah, put Michael Jackson on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1808] Alright.
Scott (PS0R9) [1809] Michael Jackson.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1810] Well, first, tell me what you've done today?
[1811] ... Ay?
Laura (PS0R8) [1812] Er not ... not much
Raymond (PS0PN) [1813] Don't wanna tell me?
Laura (PS0R8) [1814] but playing.
[1815] ... Me and Scott were just playing ... and I went [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [1816] [...] at home.
Laura (PS0R8) [1817] I went
Raymond (PS0PN) [1818] Have you ... have you seen Cop?
Laura (PS0R8) [1819] Na ... not ... not ... [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [1820] [...] for my ... birthday.
Laura (PS0R8) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1821] What you ... just a minute, is that ... is tomorrow afternoon your ... the birthday i ... the party or someone elses?
Laura (PS0R8) [1822] He's going to somebody's party tomorrow.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1823] Who's party is it tomorrow?
Laura (PS0R8) [1824] Ross's.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1825] Ross er, Ross.
Laura (PS0R8) [1826] Ross's!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1827] Oh Ross!
[1828] I see, yeah.
Scott (PS0R9) [1829] Yeah, but I I'll have a [...]
Emily (PS0RA) [1830] Granddad!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1831] Are you going
Emily (PS0RA) [1832] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1833] to the party?
Laura (PS0R8) [1834] No.
[1835] ... We're not going.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1836] What's
Emily (PS0RA) [1837] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1838] that?
Scott (PS0R9) [1839] He's a Beetlejuice!
Laura (PS0R8) [1840] Beetlejuice!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1841] Beetlejuice?
[1842] Oh I see, yes, yes!
Scott (PS0R9) [1843] It's okay he's a [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1844] I know all about that yes!
[1845] ... Oh, they made a film didn't they?
Laura (PS0R8) [1846] Yeah.
Scott (PS0R9) [1847] No it's ... no we di didn't!
Laura (PS0R8) [1848] Yeah, you've had
Raymond (PS0PN) [1849] Did you erm
Laura (PS0R8) [1850] Beetlejuicee!
Scott (PS0R9) [1851] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1852] Emily!
Emily (PS0RA) [1853] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1854] Have you had anyone round?
Scott (PS0R9) [1855] It was [...]
Emily (PS0RA) [1856] Yeah, no I went round to somebody's house.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1857] Who?
Emily (PS0RA) [1858] Kelly's.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1859] Kelly!
[1860] Oh i ... are
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1861] you better now by the way?
[1862] ... What was wrong with you?
Emily (PS0RA) [1863] I've had terrible [...] Laura had one.
Scott (PS0R9) [1864] I'll tell you what happened!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1865] A bug ... oh, I know all about Laura, what did you have Laura?
Scott (PS0R9) [1866] I had ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1867] Conjuctiv ... itus.
Scott (PS0R9) [1868] Had that [...]
Emily (PS0RA) [1869] She did have that [...] allergy in her eyes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1870] And allergy in your eyes!
[1871] ... Oh well!
Scott (PS0R9) [1872] I'll go and get the ted down now.
Emily (PS0RA) [1873] I went round to Kelly's house and I played a computer there ... and they could bring
Raymond (PS0PN) [1874] Oh no!
Emily (PS0RA) [1875] They
Raymond (PS0PN) [1876] More computers!
Scott (PS0R9) [1877] You can get ... [...]
Emily (PS0RA) [1878] [...] till [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1879] Can you?
Emily (PS0RA) [1880] We were taking
Scott (PS0R9) [1881] Yeah.
Emily (PS0RA) [1882] round to, I took round some of my games to play.
Scott (PS0R9) [1883] Emily's gonna make a new game aren't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1884] Is she?
Scott (PS0R9) [1885] That game [...] played ... when you was here.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1886] After.
Emily (PS0RA) [1887] I know [laughing] you're doing [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [1888] What?
Emily (PS0RA) [1889] [laughing] You're taping our [...] [] !
Scott (PS0R9) [1890] I've got a [...] .
Emily (PS0RA) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1891] Ahhhh!
[1892] Now you don't know what to say!
[1893] I tell you what I'll ask you a few questions.
[1894] ... Scott ... Where were
Scott (PS0R9) [1895] Yeah?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1896] you born?
[1897] ... What town were you born in?
Scott (PS0R9) [1898] Mm ... Shotten
Raymond (PS0PN) [1899] Shotten ... very good!
[1900] Do you know what county it's in?
Scott (PS0R9) [1901] Think, I don't know [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1902] What county it's in.
[1903] ... Clu
Laura (PS0R8) [1904] Clwyd?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1905] Laura ... where were you born?
Laura (PS0R8) [1906] Er ... Shotten
Raymond (PS0PN) [1907] Very good!
[1908] ... In Clwyd right.
[1909] ... And how old are you?
Laura (PS0R8) [1910] Seven.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1911] That's very good!
Laura (PS0R8) [1912] And I've been living for seven years! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1913] [laughing] ... Living for seven years [] !
[1914] We know that!
[1915] ... Right Emily!
Emily (PS0RA) [1916] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1917] I know you were born in Shotten ... What age are you my love?
Emily (PS0RA) [1918] I'm was born in Chester!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1919] Oh!
[1920] ... Caught me out!
[1921] Okay you've won ... [...]
Emily (PS0RA) [1922] And I ... am almost nine.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1923] Almost nine years.
[1924] ... And what scho , school do you go to?
Emily (PS0RA) [1925] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1926] Hellyessen
Emily (PS0RA) [1927] Hellyessen
Raymond (PS0PN) [1928] And who is your teacher?
[1929] Miss
Emily (PS0RA) [1930] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [1931] Miss .
[1932] ... Laura ... who is your teacher?
[1933] Miss
Laura (PS0R8) [1934] Miss .
Raymond (PS0PN) [1935] Ooh, it's [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [1936] Mrs ... and Mr
Raymond (PS0PN) [1937] Ooh Mrs .
Laura (PS0R8) [1938] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [1939] Oh two, I see!
[1940] Now, Scott who is your teacher?
Scott (PS0R9) [1941] Umm [...] ... Mrs
Raymond (PS0PN) [1942] Umm?
Scott (PS0R9) [1943] and er Mrs .
Raymond (PS0PN) [1944] Oh!
[1945] Who's your favourite out of the two?
[1946] Who d'you like best of all?
Scott (PS0R9) [1947] Erm
Emily (PS0RA) [1948] Miss . [laugh]
Scott (PS0R9) [1949] I like Mrs cos she's ... she's a bit more nicer than Mrs .
Raymond (PS0PN) [1950] Is she?
Scott (PS0R9) [1951] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1952] What is your favourite subject [...] ?
Laura (PS0R8) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [1953] What do you like doing best of all.
Laura (PS0R8) [1954] He says Mrs 's got a big wart there!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1955] Ooh! [laugh]
Emily (PS0RA) [1956] Do I have to do it [...] to the end?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1957] [laugh] ... It's going.
Scott (PS0R9) [1958] It's, it

14 (Tape 029905)

Raymond (PS0PN) [1959] Or rather ... [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [1960] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [1961] Then we can [...] .
Laura (PS0R8) [1962] The [...] .
[1963] ... [laugh] ... You ask him a question.
Emily (PS0RA) [1964] I'll ask him a question!
Laura (PS0R8) [1965] Go on then.
Raymond (PS0PN) [1966] Clock's stopped.
Scott (PS0R9) [1967] Erm
Emily (PS0RA) [1968] No, you don't need the [...] !
Scott (PS0R9) [1969] Oh! [laugh]
Emily (PS0RA) [1970] Oh oh!
[1971] ... How old are you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1972] Oh well, erm ... well erm bu ba ba ba ... actually I'm fifty seven ... I shall be fifty
Emily (PS0RA) [1973] Er
Raymond (PS0PN) [1974] eight next birthday.
[1975] ... But I don't look it!
Laura (PS0R8) [1976] Yuk!
Emily (PS0RA) [1977] Right, you're one then.
Laura (PS0R8) [1978] Erm
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [1979] Where do you live?
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [1980] Where d'you live!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1981] Buckley ... which is in Clwyd.
[1982] ... But ... I'm
Laura (PS0R8) [1983] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [1984] from Liverpool [...] ... long time ago.
Laura (PS0R8) [1985] Where were you born?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1986] In Liverpool [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [1987] Don't put that in your mouth!
Laura (PS0R8) [1988] Oh!
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [1989] Have you had a [...] ?
Emily (PS0RA) [1990] Your turn.
Scott (PS0R9) [1991] Right then ... I wanna know ... I will! [laugh] ... what, what's the date of your birthday?
Raymond (PS0PN) [1992] The date I was born, er erm the thirtieth of July ... nineteen thirty four.
Scott (PS0R9) [laugh]
Laura (PS0R8) [...] [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [laugh]
Scott (PS0R9) [1993] We've got to gather round you now.
Laura (PS0R8) [1994] [laughing] [...] [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [1995] Don't lose that now!
[1996] Look wait
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [1997] and let me ... unless it's there to lose yeah, I mean
Emily (PS0RA) [1998] What d'you do at work?
Margaret (PS0PP) [1999] before you get me any more
Raymond (PS0PN) [2000] Well I don't work now cos I'm
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2001] retired but
Margaret (PS0PP) [2002] So er
Raymond (PS0PN) [2003] I go to college ... three days a week ... and I do furniture restoration ... which is ... upholstery ... one day ... polishing
Emily (PS0RA) [2004] And what erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [2005] repairs, things like that you know.
Emily (PS0RA) [2006] Do you do erm ... any housework at home?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2007] I'll say!
[2008] ... My mummy makes me do lots of housework!
Laura (PS0R8) [2009] What's your favourite drink?
Scott (PS0R9) [2010] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2011] Drink?
Scott (PS0R9) [2012] What's
Raymond (PS0PN) [2013] Erm ... whisky.
Emily (PS0RA) [2014] What's your favourite
Laura (PS0R8) [2015] Erm
Emily (PS0RA) [2016] What's your favourite
Raymond (PS0PN) [2017] But I don't drink much.
Laura (PS0R8) [2018] What's your favourite food?
Emily (PS0RA) [2019] What's your favourite film?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2020] My favourite food is ... oh I don't, er ... pasta, Italian food.
Emily (PS0RA) [2021] And what's your favourite film?
Laura (PS0R8) [2022] Er, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2023] Oh erm ... erm ... oh I don't know!
[2024] Erm ... I'll say, Richard the third with Laurence Olivier.
Laura (PS0R8) [2025] Erm
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2026] I love that
Laura (PS0R8) [2027] Er
Raymond (PS0PN) [2028] film!
Laura (PS0R8) [2029] What's your favourite dri ... oh, I [...] !
[2030] Ha what
Scott (PS0R9) [2031] My favourite film is [laughing] Beetlejuice [] !
Laura (PS0R8) [2032] [laughing] We know that [] !
Scott (PS0R9) [2033] I
Laura (PS0R8) [2034] What's your favourite music?
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2035] Well, I like ... Italian opera so I like ... maybe ... operas
Laura (PS0R8) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2036] by Verdi, people like that you know.
Laura (PS0R8) [2037] It's my go
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [2038] again!
Emily (PS0RA) [2039] And
Laura (PS0R8) [2040] You've had a lot of turns!
[2041] ... What's your favourite clothes?
Scott (PS0R9) [2042] Wha wha , what did you get at Christmas?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2043] Ooh I don't ... er ... socks and erm ... after shave and
Laura (PS0R8) [2044] You got off us.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2045] what else did I get?
Scott (PS0R9) [2046] Wha what
Raymond (PS0PN) [2047] I've forgotten already!
[2048] ... You know
Emily (PS0RA) [2049] And [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2050] stuff like that.
Laura (PS0R8) [2051] What's your favourite clothes?
Scott (PS0R9) [2052] What did Aunty Bonny [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2053] I've got clothes, they're old ones!
[2054] I like ... casual
Scott (PS0R9) [2055] What
Raymond (PS0PN) [2056] clothes.
Scott (PS0R9) [2057] what did erm ... Aunty Bonny get for Christmas?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2058] Aunty Bonny got ... sweater ... erm ... I don't know, I forget, clothes and
Scott (PS0R9) [2059] Can we watch [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2060] And a book.
[2061] ... She got a poetry book.
Emily (PS0RA) [2062] [laughing] Well that filled one out [] !
Scott (PS0R9) [2063] Oh!
Laura (PS0R8) [2064] Yeah, and that's the end.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2065] Thank you very much!
Emily (PS0RA) [2066] Thank you very
Laura (PS0R8) [2067] Thanks!
Emily (PS0RA) [2068] much.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2069] Goodbye.
Emily (PS0RA) [2070] Bye!
Laura (PS0R8) [2071] Bye!

15 (Tape 029906)

Raymond (PS0PN) [2072] Gotta say who you're speaking to love [...] .
Scott (PS0R9) [2073] Erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [2074] Have you used
Raymond (PS0PN) [2075] Mummy
Carrie (PS0RB) [2076] that lately?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2077] Say
Laura (PS0R8) [2078] Mummy.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2079] Who's [...] .
Emily (PS0RA) [2080] I'm going to interview you now.
[2081] How old are you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2082] Oh my goodness!
[2083] ... [laughing] Oh no, you're not supposed say, ask questions [...] [] !
Laura (PS0R8) [2084] I am!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2085] Twenty one and a bit!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2086] Okay.
Scott (PS0R9) [2087] Bi ... Where's the [...] gone?
Emily (PS0RA) [2088] Erm
Laura (PS0R8) [2089] Let me ask her something.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2090] [...] ay?
Laura (PS0R8) [2091] Erm a ... what
Carrie (PS0RB) [2092] Don't get too close to the microphone!
Laura (PS0R8) [2093] what
Carrie (PS0RB) [2094] You'll blast them out!
Laura (PS0R8) [2095] what ... you erm ... usually wear?
[2096] ... Jumpers.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2097] Erm ... jumpers and trousers ... [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [2098] What do you
Emily (PS0RA) [2099] That
Laura (PS0R8) [2100] [shouting] what kind of [] jumper do usually wear?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2101] Er
Laura (PS0R8) [2102] What kind of
Carrie (PS0RB) [2103] this, this jumper that I've got on now, green one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2104] Don't hold it in front of your mouth!
Laura (PS0R8) [2105] And what kind of trousers do
Margaret (PS0PP) [2106] Don't hold it in front of your mouth!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2107] Somebody [...] have to get [...] .
Scott (PS0R9) [2108] What kind of erm ... trousers do ... do usually wear?
Emily (PS0RA) [2109] I'll get it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2110] Which [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [2111] Er [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2112] Switch it off now.
Laura (PS0R8) [2113] Oh she's already go
Margaret (PS0PP) [2114] Er
Laura (PS0R8) [2115] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2116] What's your name?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2117] Have you finished [...] ?
Emily (PS0RA) [2118] Only if it's in there.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2119] Carrie.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2120] Oh you're Carrie!
[2121] I've heard all about Carrie!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2122] Have you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2123] Where do you live in, in Shotten
Carrie (PS0RB) [2124] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2125] I can't turn them, mind you can't dilly dally
Raymond (PS0PN) [2126] I've seen you before have I?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2127] dally dally dally!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2128] How old are you then?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2129] Ten.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2130] So I [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2131] [...] as Emily!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2132] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2133] Tall and thin.
[2134] ... I'm looking down the garden that's lovely!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2135] Great big lawn!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2136] Hello my little beauty!
[2137] ... What's the matter?
[2138] ... Come on!
[2139] ... Pa pa pa pu !
[2140] ... Come on pet!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2141] Doesn't want to know you!
[2142] ... Do you pet?
[2143] ... I'm surprised he came to us!
[2144] When you get out the door he's sort of going the other way!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2145] Yes I thought ... er ... you know Paul said he runs off doesn't he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2146] But he'd come back, er, now we know he comes back once he's had enough.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2147] Does he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2148] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2149] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2150] He, oh I see, been had
Carrie (PS0RB) [2151] About quarter of an hour he said.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2152] Ah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2153] Well I suppose with him going out for walks from here he knows ... that
Carrie (PS0RB) [2154] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2155] you know, knows the area.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2156] And get frightened perhaps?
[2157] ... Yeah, it's just this
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2158] isn't it?
[2159] That's the worry, I've this ... like
Margaret (PS0PP) [2160] There's been a few ... [...] like him, a few erm ... Cavaliers.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2161] You want to er
Carrie (PS0RB) [2162] What round here?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2163] Well there's one down er, Waka drive, and erm, and once we were driving up and I thought ooh it's another ... and a King Charles.
[2164] ... Seemed to be different colour, more white than
Raymond (PS0PN) [2165] You want ask Bob for that er ... [...] ... when you see him, because ... before somebody else gets it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2166] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2167] Cos he doesn't use it now himself I don't think.
[2168] ... Cos he, you know, he hasn't got the garden ... all that
Carrie (PS0RB) [2169] I thought he might sell it?
[2170] ... Was he not
Raymond (PS0PN) [2171] Er er er oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2172] [...] I mean, we've been lucky because we've
Raymond (PS0PN) [2173] He's not bothered!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2174] er, that farm ... down the road from us ... er, she came round we bought the
Raymond (PS0PN) [2175] Mr .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2176] that sideboard off her and ... we were saying about the manure you know, I said, she said ooh come and
Raymond (PS0PN) [2177] She's lost her dog by the way.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2178] help yourselves anytime you like!
[2179] ... So we've been down there a few times but I said to you didn't I?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2180] Very pretty!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2181] I mean you see it advertised in the paper but no one
Raymond (PS0PN) [2182] Oh aye!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2183] will buy it!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2184] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2185] Fifty pence, sixty pence
Margaret (PS0PP) [2186] Horse manure, I mean it's, and it's really well rotted stuff, it's good you know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2187] But she's got this lovely little dog ... got two dogs, but this
Margaret (PS0PP) [2188] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2189] er
Margaret (PS0PP) [2190] She's got the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2191] only a year old ... disappeared!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2192] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2193] Just over a week ago!
[2194] She's advertised in all the ... local papers and
Margaret (PS0PP) [2195] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2196] been round the farms ... and it was in [...] as well.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2197] It were them puppies [...] puppies.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2198] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2199] Lovely little thing
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2200] too wasn't it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2201] What was it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2202] Lucy.
[2203] ... Er, well I think it was some sort of a
Margaret (PS0PP) [2204] I think it was a mongrel she got it from the animal rescue
Raymond (PS0PN) [2205] more sheepdog wasn't it
Margaret (PS0PP) [2206] but they had
Raymond (PS0PN) [2207] by the look of it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2208] The one that the one that nobody [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2209] [laughing] What you mean somebody would take it [...] []
Margaret (PS0PP) [2210] Well
Carrie (PS0RB) [2211] to sell the pups like!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2212] Well, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2213] No, but it makes you wonder doesn't it?
[2214] If
Carrie (PS0RB) [2215] Pedi breeding.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2216] cos if
Carrie (PS0RB) [2217] they're gonna have a cross you wouldn't think would you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2218] I wouldn't
Margaret (PS0PP) [2219] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2220] of thought so.
[2221] ... Said that the erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [2222] There's a lovely name for it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2223] They'd been feeding it down at the ... where they give the horses
Carrie (PS0RB) [2224] Stables
Raymond (PS0PN) [2225] the stables ... show them the stables.
[2226] ... But, I mean, she's been down there and ... must be gone now something has, but I said surely she would have heard ... from the police if it'd been
Carrie (PS0RB) [2227] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2228] run over.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2229] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2230] She'd rang the police and ... they hadn't heard of any.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2231] Mind you, I mean ... they had ... the dog they had before ... [...] , got run over.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2232] He'd never been out on the roads and got killed.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2233] [...] but they had one ... about twelve months ago ... also from the animal rescue, it was a lovely little dog!
[2234] ... And we saw it a few times didn't we?
[2235] ... It's very friendly ... And it followed us into the lane ... several times and then we'd chase it back
Raymond (PS0PN) [2236] Ooh it was always on the road!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2237] and the inevitable happened it it got hit ... and the next time we saw it it was ... it was galloping across the field with it's ... one of his front paws
Raymond (PS0PN) [2238] Broken leg!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2239] in plaster!
Carrie (PS0RB) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2240] And it bloody saunting you know with a little [...] down in front
Raymond (PS0PN) [2241] [laugh] Ah ah ha ha!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2242] with this plaster on ... and er
Raymond (PS0PN) [2243] The next thing it was killed on the main the road!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2244] he was [...] about he'd got out again
Raymond (PS0PN) [2245] Yeah!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2246] Ah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2247] she wouldn't chain it up, and it got ... hit and killed on the erm ... road just outside the Post Office wasn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2248] But she said that Lucy hadn't gone out.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2249] No, you didn't ... you didn't suggest they
Raymond (PS0PN) [2250] When, when she fo
Margaret (PS0PP) [2251] tried to wander [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2252] when she was a pup ... or younger ... she used to come with us down ... you know to the, near enough to the ma
Margaret (PS0PP) [2253] Mm yeah, the gate.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2254] red line.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2255] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2256] But then er ... in recent times she ... stay in the farm so
Margaret (PS0PP) [2257] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2258] Lord knows!
[2259] ... I mean, they steal dogs now don't they, these people?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2260] Mhm mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2261] Don't know do you.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2262] Steal you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2263] You'd go like a shot mate!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2264] Mhm mm!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2265] Oh ... I've been called!
Carrie (PS0RB) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2266] Well once you start
Carrie (PS0RB) [2267] What are they doing [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2268] Well you, weren't having any of that because er, he's on nights tonight isn't he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2269] Ah ho!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2270] So he won't have it.
[2271] ... Said, oh you weren't in last year when I came were you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2272] What, they come on a regular
Margaret (PS0PP) [2273] Yeah it's ... we pay a service
Raymond (PS0PN) [2274] Six months isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2275] charge you see.
[2276] ... No yearly.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2277] Six months?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2278] Yearly.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2279] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2280] I thought it was [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2281] Yearly.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2282] Why weren't you in then?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2283] And erm ... he said your neighbour let me in, and I said, oh yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [2284] Oh yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2285] he so , seemed to remember.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2286] What the [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2287] Can you see that little bit the , no can you see how that ... top of that ... and ... [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2288] Yeah I know ... I told them about that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2289] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2290] I know, I tried to
Margaret (PS0PP) [2291] Have you got
Carrie (PS0RB) [2292] close it with the tweezers but it, it was too stiff.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2293] Haven't you got anything
Carrie (PS0RB) [2294] I haven't got any pliers, no.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2295] Oh!
[2296] ... We haven't got any pliers in the boot?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2297] I said that
Margaret (PS0PP) [2298] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2299] to you tomorrow.
[2300] ... You said it's a [...] growing up!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2301] I mean I suppose they've got , I've tried biting it as well, but it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [2302] Well you
Carrie (PS0RB) [2303] narf
Margaret (PS0PP) [2304] Did you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2305] hard!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2306] Don't mess with it
Margaret (PS0PP) [2307] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2308] you'll ruin it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2309] He has ... bent that up
Carrie (PS0RB) [2310] [...] bananas [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2311] that's why she can't get the screw right down so ... and I doubt whether the woman in the shop ... will be able to do it, needs a bloke.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2312] Well, did I not tell you
Raymond (PS0PN) [2313] Need to push it in.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2314] we had Ron in?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2315] No.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2316] Ooh he looked really ... dislocated in it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2317] When he was young [...] ... Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2318] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2319] When he wasn't young.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2320] Well ... it was quite a while ago, erm ... Christopher Plumber was in it and he looked really young in it, so
Raymond (PS0PN) [2321] Oh it's erm ... he ... the Australian attache.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2322] He's the Australian attache or something isn't he?
[2323] He's at Australia
Margaret (PS0PP) [2324] Attache.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2325] House and he [...] arrest him.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2326] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2327] Ooh, he still looked nice even though he'd ... he had a birth mark round his ... nose [...] like, you know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2328] Ha!
[2329] ... We
Carrie (PS0RB) [2330] Still as attractive!
[2331] ... Well [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2332] Do you want me to hold it while you shoot back in cos we can't [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [2333] No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2334] Emily and I will
Carrie (PS0RB) [2335] It's er, they ought to have, they'll ha , have to ... it wants ... now I've taken the screw out of the sinks ... that has gotta be ... put back.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2336] Changed back.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2337] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2338] Because it's
Carrie (PS0RB) [2339] I wonder how he's done it is it
Margaret (PS0PP) [2340] It's forcing the screw at an angle which is why it won't come through.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2341] When he put one on he sort of and pulls them down, erm ... to his ears so that
Margaret (PS0PP) [2342] His ears go down his head then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2343] It's twisted it's
Carrie (PS0RB) [2344] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2345] [...] ... must do it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2346] Mm.
[2347] ... As long as they don't charge anything I don't mind.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2348] They don't charge anything for this, no.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2349] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2350] Well, I'm saying that ... I wo , I don't ... suppose with a woman he'd
Raymond (PS0PN) [2351] Charge fifty P.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2352] You know if a lens comes off like, one of the mums has said, oh they don't charge anything to put it back in, but I might see if I can erm ... charge them.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2353] Well the thing is the erm ... the metal frames, the lenses come out eas , a lot easier, you know ... than a plastic.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2354] But I've
Raymond (PS0PN) [2355] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2356] this is all ... one thing is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2357] Yeah, it's it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [2358] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2359] well the plastics a lot thicker aren't they?
[2360] Stronger seals
Margaret (PS0PP) [2361] Something to grip.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2362] metal is er ... I
Margaret (PS0PP) [2363] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [2364] have a [...] with mine
Margaret (PS0PP) [2365] I see what you mean about this
Raymond (PS0PN) [2366] wasn't I?
[2367] ... Mine used to just shoot out!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2368] Well, he's only done it once and that was when it was in a coat pocket and he pulled it out and it sort of must
Raymond (PS0PN) [2369] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2370] hooked around the ... perhaps it's not gonna making things like, they haven't ... well it's the only [...] and that was a while ago, so ... what you have to do mum is [laughing] I'll tell you what I did last night [] ... I normally have to hold the arms ... while I use
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2371] tweezers to put it back and then I had to
Margaret (PS0PP) [2372] To put it in.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2373] hold it with the tweezers while I screwed it back in.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2374] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [2375] Maybe I should have mentioned that before
Margaret (PS0PP) [2376] Well don't watch me doing and then you won't
Carrie (PS0RB) [2377] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2378] [laughing] frustrated [] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [2379] I'll do this er, next year anyway.
[2380] ... [singing] When I met you []
Margaret (PS0PP) [2381] We wat , did you see that film up, that was on a few ... nights ago, some time last week I think?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2382] At night?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2383] With er, Dennis Weaver ... [...] blocking it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2384] Yes, I do remember now, I didn't ... erm ... I saw the previews and I thought it was OTT like!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2385] It was quite good actually!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2386] Was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2387] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2388] When he's in the phone box sliding down [...] ... help me!
[2389] Help me!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2390] Yeah, well that was, yeah but if you'd seen the film you would of
Carrie (PS0RB) [2391] That was [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2392] you would of appreciated it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2393] But no
Margaret (PS0PP) [2394] It wasn't OTT really.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2395] It wasn't?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2396] Well I didn't think so, but there you are!
Emily (PS0RA) [...] ... [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2397] Well we've done that other one.
Emily (PS0RA) [2398] Yeah, but [...] me.
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [2399] Time.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2400] At home you mean?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [2401] No!
Scott (PS0R9) [2402] Dane.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2403] It's [...] the tape.
Scott (PS0R9) [2404] It's Terminator two.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2405] Are we allowed to watch the film?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2406] Terminator?
[2407] ... Ooh my God!
[2408] Is it [...] ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2409] And most of the Terminator
Raymond (PS0PN) [2410] A game?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2411] films are
Margaret (PS0PP) [2412] Can you see Paul's?
Scott (PS0R9) [2413] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2414] On his video.
Scott (PS0R9) [2415] Put it in
Raymond (PS0PN) [2416] No
Scott (PS0R9) [2417] and soon [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [2418] And you have to turn the [...] to play it!
Scott (PS0R9) [2419] You have to turn this [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2420] Have you ha
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2421] are you able to do your ... Scott can you work it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2422] Scott [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [2423] You have to play it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2424] this afternoon.
Laura (PS0R8) [2425] Where's my glasses anyway?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2426] I'm trying to fix this stuff.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2427] Oh nanny's fixing them, [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2428] I'm trying to put the screw back in.
Laura (PS0R8) [2429] Oh yes.
[2430] ... You might have to take care of these things ... or just [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [2431] We haven't yet, [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [2432] Where did you get the Terminator from Em?
Emily (PS0RA) [2433] Erm, Kelly's.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2434] Borrowed it off someone.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2435] Oh I see, Kelly!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2436] Lend it to [...] .
Emily (PS0RA) [2437] Hey there's an [...] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [2438] We haven't had the computer on for ages have we?
Emily (PS0RA) [2439] No.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2440] And it's been er ... lovely!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Emily (PS0RA) [2441] Except my games are
Margaret (PS0PP) [2442] Peaceful!
Emily (PS0RA) [2443] my games are just [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2444] Oh it's peaceful anyway [laughing] cos you can't have the sound up [] !
Emily (PS0RA) [2445] My games are [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [2446] So dad had a go on it did he?
Emily (PS0RA) [2447] Yeah, dad had a go on it, it was funny it was!
[2448] ... He nearly
Raymond (PS0PN) [2449] Do you know how to do it Laura?
[2450] D'you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [2451] Was he any good Em?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2452] work it?
Emily (PS0RA) [2453] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [2454] Oh!
Emily (PS0RA) [2455] he he went [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2456] What is your favourite one of all these?
Emily (PS0RA) [2457] he was twenty
Laura (PS0R8) [2458] Er.
Emily (PS0RA) [2459] and erm ... he hit the
Margaret (PS0PP) [2460] Did you take your games did you?
Emily (PS0RA) [2461] He hit the target.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2462] Oh he's ... oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [2463] Did he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2464] course!
Emily (PS0RA) [2465] You must play it!
Scott (PS0R9) [2466] Your turn to get out.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2467] All these blooming experts!
Emily (PS0RA) [2468] Oh!
Laura (PS0R8) [2469] Daddy's got to
Margaret (PS0PP) [2470] Oh got him!
Laura (PS0R8) [2471] have a try.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2472] Want me to do it?
Emily (PS0RA) [2473] Don't know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2474] Erm
Scott (PS0R9) [2475] Is this the one? [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2476] Well
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2477] trying it this way
Scott (PS0R9) [2478] [...] I'll find now
Margaret (PS0PP) [2479] now.
Emily (PS0RA) [2480] Yeah, I know but it's there.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2481] Yeah, it's just keeps dropping out when you try and turn it!
Scott (PS0R9) [2482] Mum, can I have i after one go and then you can go?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2483] You hold it up
Laura (PS0R8) [2484] No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2485] [...] cos it's so, so tiny
Raymond (PS0PN) [2486] Ah let him have a go!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2487] isn't it?
Laura (PS0R8) [2488] Well I want to put
Carrie (PS0RB) [2489] I know!
Laura (PS0R8) [2490] him up the tree!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2491] That's why I was messing about with the [...] .
Laura (PS0R8) [2492] It's only a computer anyway!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2493] Taking it out.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2494] Taking it out.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2495] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2496] [laughing] I sa [] .
Scott (PS0R9) [2497] Mummy, can I have a go first?
Laura (PS0R8) [2498] I wanna go first!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2499] Ah don't be so
Laura (PS0R8) [2500] I'm going first!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2501] tight!
[2502] ... Poor old Scott hasn't had a go yet!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2503] Do you need the joystick?
Scott (PS0R9) [2504] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2505] Now switch the computer on.
Scott (PS0R9) [2506] Why's this coming down?
Laura (PS0R8) [2507] Can you use them?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2508] No, without the joystick in I mean?
[2509] ... Right
Scott (PS0R9) [2510] Thank you.
Emily (PS0RA) [2511] Can I go
Carrie (PS0RB) [2512] No let Emily do it first cos she knows and you also haven't
Laura (PS0R8) [2513] Yes but I'll find out!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2514] You haven't got your glasses on love, you won't be able to see the words.
Laura (PS0R8) [2515] What have you gotta
Emily (PS0RA) [2516] Right
Laura (PS0R8) [2517] do, write
Emily (PS0RA) [2518] te
Laura (PS0R8) [2519] your name?
Emily (PS0RA) [2520] Yes, [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [2521] Then is it me?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2522] Let Em ... suss it out first.
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2523] What game's this one Em?
Emily (PS0RA) [2524] Terminator two.
Scott (PS0R9) [2525] That's [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [2526] What is it?
Emily (PS0RA) [2527] Terminator two.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2528] Terminator two.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2529] Terminator number two.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2530] You know the bottoms that I got with some [...]
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2531] this ... [...] story
Emily (PS0RA) [2532] I'm going to make it turn.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2533] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2534] to the
Margaret (PS0PP) [2535] Rumpole.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2536] Rumpole.
[2537] ... But not that I like
Raymond (PS0PN) [2538] Any good?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2539] I don't like Rumpole of the Bailey!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2540] No I don't.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2541] Only read a bit of it!
[2542] ... Born in Australia was he?

16 (Tape 029907)

Raymond (PS0PN) [2543] Why should they be this fierce? [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [2544] Let me have a little ... please?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2545] Possibly cos ... too many of us ... or ... that we [...] ... ah yes!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2546] There isn't any more, but where's your [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2547] You learn to live to [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2548] Now ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2549] Or perhaps I'll [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2550] [shouting] Will you come and sort them out before children [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [2551] Things don't really matter!
[2552] ... Most women who are attracted to men will verify this ... there are many others ... the thought of ... [...] often make up their mind and some would cringe!
[2553] ... It's true isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2554] Mm.
Laura (PS0R8) [2555] Oh what is this?
Scott (PS0R9) [2556] It's a game.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2557] Cautious cameramen, there's a sea of faces watching you.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2558] So what are gonna have?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2559] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2560] And all your thoughts
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2561] they're gone!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2562] Sorry?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2563] And your voice alters
Carrie (PS0RB) [2564] I never!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2565] and it sounds like
Margaret (PS0PP) [2566] If you can get a
Raymond (PS0PN) [2567] a ha
Margaret (PS0PP) [2568] voice out ... at all!
[2569] I mean you hear
Raymond (PS0PN) [2570] ay?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2571] it is a stage fright isn't it?
[2572] Must be!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2573] Oh [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [2574] But erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [2575] Can't decide
Scott (PS0R9) [2576] Nanny!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2577] but obviously people learn how to ... cope with that don't they.
[2578] ... Do you want to clip that thing on your ... er
Raymond (PS0PN) [2579] Yeah.
[2580] ... What
Margaret (PS0PP) [2581] clothes?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2582] do you want darling?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2583] In fact, you've already got ... got a new book from er ... what's that, Pickwick?
Scott (PS0R9) [2584] I want half again.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2585] I got you two easy ones from library ... didn't I?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2586] Oh well she's
Scott (PS0R9) [2587] I want one of theirs?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2588] Well they erm
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2589] Ooh!
[2590] ... Let's have a look.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2591] Is that a school book isn't it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2592] That's Emily's ... Grayon Crest
Emily (PS0RA) [2593] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2594] That is a
Raymond (PS0PN) [2595] Pick that up!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2596] this is a school one, yeah, they have to write them in this little
Scott (PS0R9) [2597] Mum
Laura (PS0R8) [2598] Erm
Scott (PS0R9) [2599] what's
Carrie (PS0RB) [2600] saying comments on how he's reading.
Scott (PS0R9) [2601] I know.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2602] Teacher comments isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2603] How much are they supposed to do at home?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2604] Very appalling!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2605] How much?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2606] Well they're only supposed to read ... one erm ... they get one on a ... Monday ... they take this back on Monday, they have to read it for teacher then they get another one Monday night
Laura (PS0R8) [2607] He's supposed to be
Margaret (PS0PP) [2608] Mm.
Laura (PS0R8) [2609] in goal!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2610] and they get that one back in Thursday and they read it to teacher, so it's two a week and ... up till
Margaret (PS0PP) [2611] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2612] [...] if we forget them ... and then
Margaret (PS0PP) [2613] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2614] they get a library book as well once a week.
Emily (PS0RA) [2615] Oh I know this one, you have
Margaret (PS0PP) [2616] So do you have
Carrie (PS0RB) [2617] You only hit the dalek!
Emily (PS0RA) [2618] [...] dalek, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2619] [...] ... this one that's granny is the dalek!
[2620] Mm, that was a bit harder than ... oh this dead funny [...] ... Doctor Zagel's book of Erpounds ... A poundless
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2621] Oh it doesn't say on this ... oh Meg's Car, that was easy!
[2622] ... He can read that one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2623] Is that a school one as well?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2624] No, this a library
Margaret (PS0PP) [2625] Oh I see.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2626] Keeps them separately.
[2627] ... Watch out for the wires!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2628] Oh, it's different!
Scott (PS0R9) [2629] Can I play with my [...] ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2630] Yeah you can.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2631] But you've gotta have it on for half an hour haven't we Scott?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2632] You've got quarter of an hour left.
[2633] ... And then you put your ... your score there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2634] Oh I see ... mm!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2635] And your ... telephone then ... and then you go to ... this is gotta to go for the page
Margaret (PS0PP) [2636] This is got to confirm that they've , they've actually done the reading ... at home, yeah?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2637] Oh right, what you ... what you write in the [...] , yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2638] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2639] I thought I had [...] other books?
[2640] ... Mm ... put everything up if some things get lost.
[2641] ... Everything's all lab
Margaret (PS0PP) [2642] Wonderful filing system you've got here!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2643] or labour!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2644] All erm ... library books and school books have to go on top here if there's no ... space to put them.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2645] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2646] And er
Margaret (PS0PP) [2647] What's happened about that book you
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2648] lost, did it ever turn up?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2649] Yes ... it was ... sandwiched in the back of one of these.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2650] Oh good heavens!
[2651] ... Cos you searched
Carrie (PS0RB) [2652] Laura found it
Margaret (PS0PP) [2653] high and low didn't you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2654] One we have them on a ... [...] teacher ... that's the
Margaret (PS0PP) [2655] Oh I see!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2656] and then she
Margaret (PS0PP) [2657] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2658] comments.
[2659] ... Her comments there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2660] Ye so presumably she tests them again after they've
Carrie (PS0RB) [2661] Yeah, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2662] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2663] Well that's why I did the other week, when I went into school I was [...] children
Laura (PS0R8) [2664] Can you help me find Maid Marian book?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2665] Maid Marian.
[2666] ... Er, here's the ... that's got sixth of the third ... those are sixth of the third is that yours Scott?
Laura (PS0R8) [2667] Scott's
Carrie (PS0RB) [2668] Well he can read that one if he wants.
Scott (PS0R9) [2669] No!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2670] Gonna read that one.
Scott (PS0R9) [2671] No!
Laura (PS0R8) [2672] Yeah, let me see, it's Maid Marion.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2673] Is that one of your favourites is it?
Scott (PS0R9) [2674] Can I take that plaster off that one?
Laura (PS0R8) [2675] Yeah.
Scott (PS0R9) [2676] Can you look in the
Margaret (PS0PP) [2677] Mm.
Scott (PS0R9) [2678] cloth?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2679] No!
[2680] You can't take your plaster off!
[2681] [shouting] Didn't you hear what I said [] ?
Scott (PS0R9) [2682] Can I just look at that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2683] Another fifteen minutes and then you can take it off.
Scott (PS0R9) [2684] I wanna see it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2685] Anyway ... it's certainly helping with what your mummy said.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2686] Come on and [...] boy, get stuck in!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2687] There is a oh I ... I take it he's gotta go for another assessment then has he ... for
Carrie (PS0RB) [2688] Yeah, they go every ... he's gotta go in
Margaret (PS0PP) [2689] So
Carrie (PS0RB) [2690] in June.
[2691] When did he
Margaret (PS0PP) [2692] A
Carrie (PS0RB) [2693] go for the last, before Christmas that was six months.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2694] How long has he had er
Scott (PS0R9) [2695] Mum, I can't see!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2696] that ... the plaster now?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2697] Now?
[2698] Till ten past four.
Scott (PS0R9) [2699] Mum, I can't see!
Emily (PS0RA) [2700] Well stop doing that Scott!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2701] No, I mean, you know, from when you first ... when they, they told you he had
Carrie (PS0RB) [2702] Oh how long has he's
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2703] been wearing for?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2704] Mm.
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2705] It was at er ... February was it?
[2706] ... Or the end of Ja , then end of January, it's only about [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [2707] Can I watch, [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2708] to wear, it's six
Margaret (PS0PP) [2709] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2710] months nearly.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2711] And what do they do, give him another eye test
Emily (PS0RA) [2712] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2713] [...] ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2714] That's what , yeah.
[2715] ... She jus ... she does this and
Margaret (PS0PP) [2716] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2717] Well I don't have [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [2718] Right, show how to [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2719] go this [...] .
Emily (PS0RA) [2720] You have to get past the box.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2721] Mm.
Emily (PS0RA) [2722] Ah, which nearly
Margaret (PS0PP) [2723] And er, but shines the light in his eyes and he has to look up [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [2724] You have to stop [...] my chair!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2725] That's okay!
Scott (PS0R9) [2726] Paper!
Emily (PS0RA) [2727] I'll try it again [...] .
Scott (PS0R9) [2728] You don't have to over the rocks!
[2729] Why the cliffs
Laura (PS0R8) [2730] I want
Scott (PS0R9) [2731] It's [...] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2732] This looks like the same tape as ... Uncle Pauls ... erm ... is it?
Emily (PS0RA) [2733] [...] go like this.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2734] Yes, it is, I remember this.
Emily (PS0RA) [2735] I'll never get onto level two.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2736] It's awfully quiet this!
[2737] Did they turn the volume off?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2738] Mm, yes.
[2739] ... Oh the reading you mean?
Laura (PS0R8) [2740] Have you got any peoples?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2741] Yeah.
Emily (PS0RA) [2742] Yeah.
Scott (PS0R9) [2743] But my face is
Laura (PS0R8) [2744] What?
Scott (PS0R9) [2745] [...] !
[2746] It's okay.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2747] No, go wash your face!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2748] And granddad's reading.
Scott (PS0R9) [2749] No I wanted you to get
Carrie (PS0RB) [2750] Go on [...] .
Scott (PS0R9) [2751] something like drawing!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2752] No!
[2753] ... No!
Scott (PS0R9) [2754] Cos I want to draw a picture.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2755] Right ... put it down!
[2756] ... Come on you've only got ten minutes to go!
[2757] ... Right!

17 (Tape 029908)

Margaret (PS0PP) [2758] He is Australian isn't he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2759] Oh, it's stuck to my knee!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2760] Mm.
[2761] ... That one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2762] Erm ... the old man
Carrie (PS0RB) [2763] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2764] died as, whatever ... and they went to his eldest brother ... he said he had to burn all because he only lived in a small flat, he and his wife and two children and they'd got no room for them to ... so he had to burn them.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2765] Good God!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2766] Turn it on that [...] .
Laura (PS0R8) [2767] I've gotta [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [2768] [...] ... Emily!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2769] Game of the hard and friendly!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2770] If you're not gonna sit straight then hold on to the computer!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2771] Yes, you can't imagine it really!
[2772] Ca how old is he?
Scott (PS0R9) [2773] Can I do it mummy?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2774] About seventy now I should think.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2775] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2776] He came here in forty six.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2777] Mm, as did many others I suppose.
[2778] ... After the war.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2779] Weee!
[2780] Clang!
[2781] ... Ha!
Scott (PS0R9) [2782] Weee!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2783] To his dad, they went back to ... Berlin in nineteen seventy for a visit cos his mum was in a home which [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2784] Oh I know when to stop, [...] I've got er
Raymond (PS0PN) [2785] fortunately they'd been able to pay for ... by the [...] .
Emily (PS0RA) [2786] Aha!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2787] And some wore black pants to bed cos they didn't recognise them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2788] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2789] And she died just afterwards.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2790] Well he hadn't seen her for many years?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2791] In a home, but senile
Margaret (PS0PP) [2792] Ah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2793] Stop!
Raymond (PS0PN) [2794] Yeah.
Scott (PS0R9) [2795] But mummy ... can I take this
Margaret (PS0PP) [2796] Mm.
Scott (PS0R9) [2797] off? ... [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2798] Nearly, nearly, nearly!
[2799] ... Couple more minutes.
Emily (PS0RA) [2800] But he wants to do it doesn't he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2801] That's right, yeah.
[2802] ... Once this finished.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2803] I suppose really he's ... he's had success ... late in his life hasn't he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2804] Oh yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2805] Yeah.
[2806] ... You know, I don't remember him years ago.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2807] No, I ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2808] Not a on anything.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2809] Couple of small [...] and film of it er
Margaret (PS0PP) [2810] I er, I suppose he's been more of a stage
Raymond (PS0PN) [2811] He's never been top.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2812] actor really ... in er
Raymond (PS0PN) [2813] Yeah , I think he did ... er, Rumpole was ... put him in the big time really.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2814] The big league.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2815] Good actor though.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2816] Yes he is good actor.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2817] [...] ... [laughing] oh no, not the [...] [] ! ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2818] So do er ... does he say he does a lot of public speaking now or, or not?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2819] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2820] He's just
Raymond (PS0PN) [2821] Fakes it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2822] Oh I see.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [2823] no, you know, he's not er ... trying desperately to be humorous I think
Margaret (PS0PP) [2824] Mm.
[2825] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2826] totally ... fakes it and that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2827] Yeah.
[2828] ... Well it's one thing to t ... to talk amongst your friends I suppose, and another one to be ... you know ... spontaneous when you're in front of a ... huge ... crowd of people.
[2829] ... And especially as you say [...] ... to be humorous.
[2830] ... Some people are naturally like that though aren't they?
[2831] Outgoing and er
Raymond (PS0PN) [2832] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2833] good recollections of erm ... and even events that aren't necessarily ... really funny but ... can be funny ... you know, on the way tha , in the way that they're being told.
[2834] ... As they say, you had to be there.
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2835] Very good!
Scott (PS0R9) [2836] But when's the [...] ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2837] Well I told you, the [...] ... his arms had gone like that.
Scott (PS0R9) [2838] Ooh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2839] If I pull my jumper off like that ... be like that dresses.
[2840] ... Right!
[2841] ... What does she say?
Scott (PS0R9) [2842] Go
Carrie (PS0RB) [2843] Good.
Scott (PS0R9) [2844] Good.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2845] Remember what she says.
Scott (PS0R9) [2846] Go
Laura (PS0R8) [2847] Heavily ... [...] good ... [...] .

18 (Tape 029909)

Carrie (PS0RB) [2848] Really?
Scott (PS0R9) [2849] Move them animals, yeah. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2850] Short cuts on the
Carrie (PS0RB) [2851] Super scrolls ... and he told us where you get them.
[2852] ... Through hours of playing it himself!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2853] [laugh] ... Trial and error!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2854] But , oh I told you that erm ... [...] and I'm putting them faster ... tried his injection [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2855] Well is it broken?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2856] And I'm the one with [...] .
[2857] ... No he's ... arthritis hasn't he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2858] Oh that's right, yes.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2859] Mm.
[2860] ... He don't have to run.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2861] So wha
Carrie (PS0RB) [2862] to the bottom of the
Margaret (PS0PP) [2863] so wha ... are they giving him steroids or something like
Carrie (PS0RB) [2864] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2865] that?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2866] Cortisone injections to se
Margaret (PS0PP) [2867] Cortisone , Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2868] to see what there is [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [2869] I mean, she'll be first!
[2870] ... Did you only play one game?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2871] So ... is he improved or
Carrie (PS0RB) [2872] Last [...] out ... [laughing] that's what I say mum, it's [...] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2873] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2874] get them [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [2875] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2876] There's not many people at the school, and I go to school and they get a load of many off people like, for the catalogue and the [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2877] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2878] and what have you, and people are ... giving me money left, right and centre and kids are coming out, telling me, saying don't forget! ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2879] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2880] half the time!
[2881] ... If there's money to make, Reg!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2882] Well, I mean indirectly I suppose.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2883] Actually, I got sixteen pound commission so far, and I got some more people ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2884] Oh that's quite good!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2885] so ... I might have the three pound first week ... had erm ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2886] This week?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2887] Yeah.
[2888] ... Three pounds I get for ... running it.
Scott (PS0R9) [2889] Mummy!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2890] A small pound though.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2891] I thought you meant you got it at Christmas time an
Carrie (PS0RB) [2892] Oh no, you get a free one ... for introducing people, so this
Margaret (PS0PP) [2893] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2894] this is quite good!
[2895] ... You know, [...] and ... er, there was sachet called Me and the teatime [...] and
Margaret (PS0PP) [2896] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2897] [...] soap.
[2898] ... Oh, I like them in the [...] .
[2899] ... Now the plaster!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2900] [laugh] ... She's anxious to show me this pasty that she's made.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2901] [...] , are they all cooking fun?
[2902] ... Thank you Laura.
[2903] ... Emily's on about doing er ... hostess badge which they have to make [...] cake
Margaret (PS0PP) [2904] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2905] and brownies and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [2906] Mhm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2907] cakes at home ... erm ... what else have you gotta do?
[2908] Oh they gotta do a ... table ... flower arrangements.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2909] Are all the children sort of, working ... at the same level together or
Carrie (PS0RB) [2910] First one is, [laughing] if they want [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [2911] Oh I see.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2912] I think they're gonna do the ramblers one together cos then they'll go for a walk together [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [2913] Cos they we the ... woods I suppose?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2914] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2915] Mm.
Laura (PS0R8) [2916] Mummy?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2917] What love?
Laura (PS0R8) [2918] Can you get the [...] ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2919] [...] ... which one has a ... [shouting] I I
Laura (PS0R8) [2920] Yes.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2921] said that was it didn't I [] ?
Scott (PS0R9) [2922] That
Carrie (PS0RB) [2923] Yeah, and now!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2924] Otherwise we'll blow
Margaret (PS0PP) [2925] Your getting hooked!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2926] the telly up!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2927] Getting hooked on that Scott!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2928] Which are the books , [...] said?
Scott (PS0R9) [2929] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2930] Or Sammy the Dinosaur?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2931] What's that?
Scott (PS0R9) [2932] Mummy!
[2933] ... Mummy!
[2934] ... Can, can
Carrie (PS0RB) [2935] Sammy the Dinosaur?
Scott (PS0R9) [2936] can you get ... can you read
Carrie (PS0RB) [2937] Which, what's it called?
Scott (PS0R9) [2938] I dunno!
Laura (PS0R8) [2939] Mummy!
[2940] Can you read
Carrie (PS0RB) [2941] I dunno, oh well that's a good title!
Laura (PS0R8) [2942] Mummy, can you read a ... nana that ... pound thing?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2943] Oh you can show nana the one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2944] Mm.
Laura (PS0R8) [2945] Why?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2946] Nana can read it can't she?
[2947] ... See
Laura (PS0R8) [2948] That [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [2949] At the back of the
Laura (PS0R8) [2950] A
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2951] Oh yes!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2952] Do I need my glasses on for this book?
Scott (PS0R9) [2953] Mummy
Carrie (PS0RB) [2954] Yep!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2955] Can you read this
Carrie (PS0RB) [2956] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2957] read me this book?
Laura (PS0R8) [2958] I'll show you the pictures in it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [2959] [...] ... out!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2960] Feed time ... about
Margaret (PS0PP) [2961] Right , go on.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2962] quarter to five, something like that.
Laura (PS0R8) [2963] It is funny!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2964] Is it?
Laura (PS0R8) [2965] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2966] Well we lasso granddad around the legs [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [2967] I take it you've read this before then have you?
Laura (PS0R8) [2968] No, my mummy read it to me.
Emily (PS0RA) [2969] Are we going out or something?
Laura (PS0R8) [2970] Right, I'm ready.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2971] Good, can you ... can you read this at the bottom?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2972] I said that was [...] can, yeah.
Laura (PS0R8) [2973] No, I can't read any at the bottom.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2974] Do you wanna take your tape [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [2975] You must know some of these words?
Laura (PS0R8) [2976] Mm.
[2977] ... I don't know some of the word.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2978] What's that word there then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [2979] Ah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2980] Wa
Laura (PS0R8) [2981] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2982] Wa
Carrie (PS0RB) [2983] Cos I'm sick of this business!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2984] We
Laura (PS0R8) [2985] We
Margaret (PS0PP) [2986] We ... [laugh] ... It's good isn't it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [2987] It's so true of some of the no , some of the things they do!
[2988] ... Going in the ... the new horn it says.
Margaret (PS0PP) [2989] To find out which is which, hold a sausage at both ends!
Carrie (PS0RB) [2990] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [2991] That looks like our Muffin doesn't it?
Laura (PS0R8) [2992] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2993] Wally's had his haircut!
Margaret (PS0PP) [2994] He's like that bu ,po Wally's had his haircut now so you can see which
Carrie (PS0RB) [2995] Does he
Margaret (PS0PP) [2996] end is which.
Carrie (PS0RB) [2997] You didn't laugh at him did you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [2998] [laughing] ... I know, he's quite sensitive [] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [2999] [...] ... I know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3000] When he's had a haircut.
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3001] Ah!
[3002] Ha!
[3003] Ha!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3004] What on earth [...] got on his foot?
[3005] Oh no, it's a slipper with two holes, [laughing] a thin and long pink flannel [] !
[3006] ... That's his tongue isn't it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3007] See what they do with a long pink flannel?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3008] Mm.
[3009] ... Oh dear! ... [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3010] They don , they don't know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3011] Yes.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3012] They don't understand! ... [...] on the dog.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3013] [reading children's book] Dogs which I can see and the icicles of ... of Ercalyps we are not looking [] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [3014] [laugh] Ercalyps
Margaret (PS0PP) [3015] [laugh] Ercalyps
Carrie (PS0RB) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3016] [reading] Ercans can stand on four legs ... or three legs, or two legs
Carrie (PS0RB) [3017] No, not in the garden Emily!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3018] they can jump as high as roast pig [] !
Emily (PS0RA) [3019] Why won't [...] ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3020] [...] Kelly.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3021] Have you ever had any of Doctor Zeuss books?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3022] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3023] Ah Jim ... oh they're
Carrie (PS0RB) [3024] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3025] lov ... hilarious!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3026] There's not so, so many about, I used to love those!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3027] Oh, I thought they were great them!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3028] Even when I was older!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3029] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3030] I used to get Doctor Zeuss
Scott (PS0R9) [3031] [shouting] Hey Kelly [] !
Emily (PS0RA) [3032] Can I just go down the shops, Kelly and me are just going get something [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3033] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3034] Okay yes.
Emily (PS0RA) [3035] Could of got the caravan.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3036] Ena [...] , they're good pictures aren't they?
[3037] ... Look at the cat singing
Scott (PS0R9) [3038] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3039] with the [...] soldier!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3040] Go and get some [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [3041] Yeah, and look at that snow
Carrie (PS0RB) [3042] for Jackie.
Emily (PS0RA) [3043] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3044] Jackie who?
[3045] Oh Jackie!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3046] You know Jackie, yeah, she wasn't gonna write again was she?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3047] Oh she [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3048] At last, I I got a letter!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3049] Ah!
[3050] ... How's she getting on?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3051] She's not living in Plymouth ... as, she was gonna be ... but at the last minute they found a flat for her ... and
Margaret (PS0PP) [3052] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3053] in Hamilford where her mum and dad are ... so she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [3054] Oh s
Carrie (PS0RB) [3055] in this ... er ... first floor flat which she says is quite nice.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3056] Oh good!
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3057] It's all decorated!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3058] So is she sort of settling down there now is she?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3059] Yes, so she says ... [...] think that
Scott (PS0R9) [3060] [...] it now.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3061] we should go
Scott (PS0R9) [3062] No.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3063] move down there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3064] That's silly isn't it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3065] Mum!
Scott (PS0R9) [3066] Look at that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3067] Oh sh , oh you've had an invite have you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3068] Well no, to live!
[3069] She said the people
Margaret (PS0PP) [3070] To live?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3071] in [...] come and live down here [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3072] Oh!
Scott (PS0R9) [3073] Look at that!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3074] she'd gone back there
Margaret (PS0PP) [3075] Look at that!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3076] to be near her parents and she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [3077] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3078] gonna meet them here.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3079] Yes, you'd be moving away from yours then wouldn't you?
Scott (PS0R9) [3080] Look at that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3081] But we would miss you, you know!
Scott (PS0R9) [3082] Look at that, he has to catch [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3083] Let's find it though, [...] has to fetch it.
Emily (PS0RA) [3084] Do you want me to post the
Margaret (PS0PP) [3085] Mm.
Emily (PS0RA) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3086] Have you seen this book granddad?
Scott (PS0R9) [3087] Look at that!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3088] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3089] It's quite funny!
[3090] ... Funny pictures!
Emily (PS0RA) [3091] Can I watch a tape!
Scott (PS0R9) [3092] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3093] Sorry?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3094] Wanna watch
Raymond (PS0PN) [3095] What kind?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3096] a tape?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3097] I dunno!
[3098] Haven't got a clue!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3099] What he's got?
Emily (PS0RA) [3100] You look in that.
Scott (PS0R9) [3101] Ooh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3102] Probably don't wanna, [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3103] He's back isn't he?
[3104] In the past!
Scott (PS0R9) [3105] Yeah.
[3106] ... There is not a [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [3107] Jason and Argonauts
Scott (PS0R9) [3108] It's a ... it's erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [3109] Oh no!
[3110] Oh no, new cow pats!
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3111] Oh dear oh dear!
Scott (PS0R9) [3112] He
Carrie (PS0RB) [3113] [...] watch that
Raymond (PS0PN) [3114] Good God!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3115] one it's a
Margaret (PS0PP) [3116] That's, that's true that, that's what they do, they like rolling in all the mess in the
Carrie (PS0RB) [3117] Moo Holes
Margaret (PS0PP) [3118] fields.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3119] it says [laughing] there [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3120] Superman.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3121] Ah no!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3122] Mel Gibson in the [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3123] And getting in the bag as well!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3124] Mutiny on the ... t Bounty.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3125] No, I'm not desperate to watch the tapes, really Carrie.
Scott (PS0R9) [3126] Look, [...] !
Laura (PS0R8) [3127] [shouting] I want to [] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [3128] You want to?
Laura (PS0R8) [3129] Take one of those.
Scott (PS0R9) [3130] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3131] Yeah, oh well put one on
Scott (PS0R9) [3132] One of those.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3133] for
Scott (PS0R9) [3134] I wanna watch ... at [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3135] Fantasia.
Scott (PS0R9) [3136] Look, look!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3137] [...] watching these, I'm not taking that one [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [3138] Have you seen that?
[3139] Have you watched that Fantasia?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3140] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3141] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3142] Are you gonna do it?
[3143] ... Some bits are
Scott (PS0R9) [3144] Look
Raymond (PS0PN) [3145] good but ... [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3146] and when he's got quite clean!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3147] It's [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3148] He's goes and does it again!
[3149] I know, that's ... absolutely true that!
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3150] Urgh yucky!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3151] That's just what doggies do!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3152] This one again!
Scott (PS0R9) [3153] Look!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [...] [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3154] Little baby one!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3155] each other.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3156] [laughing] Oh [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [3157] Gee!
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3158] God alive!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3159] No, I'm going to take care of this thing.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3160] It's all the bloody ... stories as
Carrie (PS0RB) [3161] It'll be alright on the night!
Scott (PS0R9) [3162] And they get out!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3163] Mm.
[3164] ... That is the end of today's lesson.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3165] Nearly eleven.
[3166] ... As it happens [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3167] Look, they've all gone
Carrie (PS0RB) [3168] which I'm [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3169] You are all good and kind and when you visit
Raymond (PS0PN) [3170] Ooh, I tell you what I've missed erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [3171] Planet Earth to play with a real Hanglet
Raymond (PS0PN) [3172] Erm ... ninety P
Carrie (PS0RB) [3173] I watch
Raymond (PS0PN) [3174] no, not the magic [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3175] That's a
Carrie (PS0RB) [3176] Yeah I
Margaret (PS0PP) [3177] funny one isn't it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3178] watched it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3179] Barber of Seville.
Scott (PS0R9) [3180] They're all getting their [...] .
Carrie (PS0RB) [3181] So you see I watched that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3182] Oh good!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3183] I've taped over it now.
[3184] ... Sorry!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3185] Tito Gobbin
Margaret (PS0PP) [3186] Tito Gobbin is on tomorrow afternoon.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3187] I don't know, the
Scott (PS0R9) [3188] Look!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3189] feller who was ... Figaro was
Margaret (PS0PP) [3190] Ooh that looks like an elephant
Carrie (PS0RB) [3191] Tito Gobbin
Margaret (PS0PP) [3192] doesn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3193] But I tried [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3194] Yeah look at
Raymond (PS0PN) [3195] over the rigs ... cheap ... yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3196] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3197] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3198] But it, it would make you feel [...] , I should think that you, yeah, the lips were
Margaret (PS0PP) [3199] [reading book] Those of you who want to bring your pets along, please sit in the back of the space ship ... [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3200] He was good and then er
Margaret (PS0PP) [3201] And that's his cat is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3202] Yeah, he's got a lovely voice, Tito Gobbin
Scott (PS0R9) [3203] Yeah, mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3204] Gracious me!
Scott (PS0R9) [3205] And that er
Raymond (PS0PN) [3206] I was the one [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3207] Well the feller feller [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3208] Looks like a pterodactyl that doesn't it?
Scott (PS0R9) [3209] Yeah, it's got a tail.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3210] And there's the [...] there look
Carrie (PS0RB) [3211] Yeah, well I've got [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3212] A tenor.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3213] wasn't it?
Scott (PS0R9) [3214] Yeah and it
Raymond (PS0PN) [3215] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3216] except it's got a tail.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3217] on the terms.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3218] [laugh] ... pterodactyl with a tail!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3219] What was the girl?
[3220] What's her name?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3221] They might of had tails you don't know!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3222] He's got a very high ... high notes
Raymond (PS0PN) [3223] Don er ... Alvio is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3224] Sorry?
[3225] ... What was that?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3226] What was Alvio
Carrie (PS0RB) [3227] The one she's in love with.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3228] Don Alvar
Carrie (PS0RB) [3229] A
Raymond (PS0PN) [3230] Alvario
Carrie (PS0RB) [3231] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3232] Yeah.
Scott (PS0R9) [3233] But we'll leave that one
Raymond (PS0PN) [3234] Rosita.
Scott (PS0R9) [3235] out.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3236] Mm.
[3237] ... Is that a
Carrie (PS0RB) [3238] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3239] school book or
Raymond (PS0PN) [3240] Doctor
Margaret (PS0PP) [3241] a library book?
Scott (PS0R9) [3242] A library book.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3243] A library book, oh.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3244] Yeah, the feller with [...] hat.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3245] Giovanno.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3246] The Bar sol
Scott (PS0R9) [3247] But this is belong to school.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3248] Mm, yes.
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3249] You be careful with it!
Scott (PS0R9) [3250] It is funny!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3251] Ooh, you know one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3252] Yes, it's a very funny one that yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3253] There's many years, I saw that
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3254] film about nineteen fifty two
Scott (PS0R9) [3255] We, we used to have one at our school.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3256] or something like that!
Scott (PS0R9) [3257] Erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [3258] Yeah, I know.
Scott (PS0R9) [3259] about humans.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3260] Tito Gobbin
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3261] And
Raymond (PS0PN) [3262] Of course
Carrie (PS0RB) [3263] But the bit when he's finished that ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3264] Vargo
Carrie (PS0RB) [3265] we were singing that in the bathroom the other day [singing] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3266] Vargo passotho
Carrie (PS0RB) [3267] [...] ... yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3268] da da da da da
Raymond (PS0PN) [3269] Mmmm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3270] da da [] .
Scott (PS0R9) [3271] Can I do this to you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3272] And he's singing it and he's going like this
Margaret (PS0PP) [3273] No you don't have to ... keep moving it about.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3274] [singing] dee dee dee dee dee [] .
[3275] ... Figaro come here ... Figaro, no there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3276] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3277] [yawn] Figaro here, Figaro up, Figaro down ... joo soo
Carrie (PS0RB) [3278] But they didn't with the
Scott (PS0R9) [3279] What's your favourite video game?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3280] the barbers weren't just barbers then were they?
[3281] They used to do er
Raymond (PS0PN) [3282] I don't like video games Scott!
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3283] I hate them!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3284] I believe you when I
Scott (PS0R9) [3285] Erm er ... what's
Carrie (PS0RB) [3286] erm ... he doesn't just
Scott (PS0R9) [3287] What's
Carrie (PS0RB) [3288] cut hair does he, and shave people he ... there's a [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3289] Oh it is
Carrie (PS0RB) [3290] don't they?
[3291] And they're like doctors
Margaret (PS0PP) [3292] Well they're, yeah.
[3293] ... They're like surgeons.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3294] Well he's
Margaret (PS0PP) [3295] the barber
Raymond (PS0PN) [3296] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3297] was a surgeon in those days.
Scott (PS0R9) [3298] What's your favourite cartoon?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3299] I'm just gonna go down and get some eggs cos I forgotten them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3300] I don't like cartoons.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3301] And granddad
Scott (PS0R9) [3302] Erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [3303] doesn't like computers ... and he doesn't like
Raymond (PS0PN) [3304] I used to like Tom and Jerry.
Scott (PS0R9) [3305] And what's your favourite
Carrie (PS0RB) [3306] [...] will you have an egg?
Scott (PS0R9) [3307] old film?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3308] Oh er ... favourite film, what's my favourite film then?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3309] What's your fa , oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3310] Oh I know, Twelve Angry Men.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3311] [laughing] Yeah he he []
Scott (PS0R9) [3312] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3313] that's a good [...] one!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3314] That's a smasher that is!
[3315] ... With Henry Fonda.
Scott (PS0R9) [3316] Mm, er ... What's your favourite
Raymond (PS0PN) [3317] What's your favourite film?
Scott (PS0R9) [3318] one out of Hans Christian And
Margaret (PS0PP) [3319] Anderson.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3320] Oh erm ... [singing] The king is in the altogether, and altogether and a [] , that's all I know the words.
[3321] ... Nana's better at the words than I am ... I forget them!
Scott (PS0R9) [3322] mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3323] Favourite song in it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3324] Favourite song.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3325] Mm.
[3326] ... Oh, that's granddad, you know that one don't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3327] Or a
Scott (PS0R9) [3328] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3329] Copenhagen is it?
[3330] ... Wonderful wonderful Copenhagen or [...] .
Scott (PS0R9) [3331] What d'you like doing in the middle of the day?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3332] Oh, heavens!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3333] I think he's asleep now!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3334] Well I like reading.
Scott (PS0R9) [3335] We've got that on tape when you said oh heavens!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3336] Oh erm ... and
Scott (PS0R9) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3337] quite often I'm doing my ... furniture work which I like doing, making furniture ... or repairing furniture.
[3338] ... I like that!
Scott (PS0R9) [3339] What d'you do in the middle of the day?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3340] Just had that!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3341] You've just asked me that, and I've told you!
[3342] ... Middle of the day!
Scott (PS0R9) [3343] Well what d'you do in the morning then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3344] Sometimes I do some gardening, I take the dogs for walk ... which I like doing ... and then help nana all the time ... cos she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3345] she has never got much energy in the morning as you know!
Scott (PS0R9) [3346] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3347] Not very communicative in the morning really.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3348] She doesn't like ta , I like to listen
Margaret (PS0PP) [3349] Well I don't fall asleep
Raymond (PS0PN) [3350] Scott!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3351] at eight o'clock at night for two hours and then go
Raymond (PS0PN) [3352] No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3353] to bed to and sleep the rest of the night!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3354] Three o'clock.
[3355] ... The afternoon ... er ... I like to get up in the morning ... I like to talk and sing ... be happy!
Scott (PS0R9) [3356] Ee
Raymond (PS0PN) [3357] And sometimes ... listen to the birds ... you know, the birds start early don't they?
[3358] Especially in Spring.

19 (Tape 029910)

Margaret (PS0PP) [3359] Well it doesn't belong to us.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3360] [...] ... but lately ... we can't [...]
Laura (PS0R8) [3361] You now.
[3362] ... What is your
Margaret (PS0PP) [3363] See them?
Laura (PS0R8) [3364] favourite video game?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3365] He would cackle like mad that I eat roll I mean I'm not
Emily (PS0RA) [3366] My favourite [...] ?
[3367] ... My favourite video game is [...] Quest.
Laura (PS0R8) [3368] And ... what
Carrie (PS0RB) [3369] [...] Quest?
Laura (PS0R8) [3370] what d'you
Emily (PS0RA) [3371] Yeah.
Laura (PS0R8) [3372] usually do in the middle of the day?
Emily (PS0RA) [3373] I dunno!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Emily (PS0RA) [3374] Well ... just lie down and ... [laughing] have a little snore [] ! ... [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3375] Listen, you could have gone up to Wedford Park today you know, they had erm ... they had all the children up there and they were doing an ... a barbecue ... in the woods.
Emily (PS0RA) [3376] What?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3377] Well it's not a very nice day for it is it?
[3378] ... But er
Emily (PS0RA) [3379] Pool?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3380] It was in the paper yesterday, it said
Laura (PS0R8) [3381] Usually go up there [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3382] all the children are invited ... you had to take your own food there
Emily (PS0RA) [3383] Why?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3384] of course.
[3385] ... Well you supposed to take your own food.
[3386] ... Be nice to go up there in the summer time won't it?
Emily (PS0RA) [3387] [...] !
Scott (PS0R9) [3388] Yeah, they used to have festivals.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3389] Mm.
Laura (PS0R8) [3390] You say yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3391] What?
Laura (PS0R8) [3392] Go on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3393] What d'you want me to say Scott?
Scott (PS0R9) [3394] Go on!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3395] Balmoral you can't say!
Laura (PS0R8) [laugh]
Scott (PS0R9) [3396] [laughing] Oh look ... you've shut your [...] [] !
Laura (PS0R8) [3397] [laugh] ... Yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3398] Oh you're ever so noisy Scott!
Laura (PS0R8) [3399] He was telling you to
Raymond (PS0PN) [3400] You're ever so noisy!
Laura (PS0R8) [3401] He was telling me to say bum!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3402] Ah! ha ha!
Scott (PS0R9) [laugh]
Laura (PS0R8) [laugh]
Scott (PS0R9) [3403] Yes.
[3404] ... If we could get Laura saying ... nasty words to me on this tape!
[3405] ... Go on, say a nasty word to me! ... [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3406] I don't think it's meant
Laura (PS0R8) [3407] [laughing] You're fa []
Margaret (PS0PP) [3408] for that Scott!
[3409] ... I'm sure it isn't!
Laura (PS0R8) [3410] Sometimes when
Emily (PS0RA) [3411] Stop it Scott!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3412] Ay!
[3413] Laura, I was gonna ask you, what about m

20 (Tape 029911)

Laura (PS0R8) [3414] It's Emily's
Raymond (PS0PN) [3415] Oh!
[3416] ... Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [3417] Emily's
Raymond (PS0PN) [3418] ah!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3419] Gone in the pub, could've have asked him.
Emily (PS0RA) [3420] When did you go the shop?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3421] Haven't seen him coming out of the car.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3422] What's happened to the rabbit tent?
Emily (PS0RA) [3423] Have you been down
Raymond (PS0PN) [3424] You know the
Emily (PS0RA) [3425] to the shop?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3426] the schools.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3427] The one you minded during the summer hols.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3428] [...] at last!
Scott (PS0R9) [3429] Yeah ... that rabbit
Margaret (PS0PP) [3430] Oh!
Scott (PS0R9) [3431] from Emily's school!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3432] We know it
Margaret (PS0PP) [3433] Have you recovered from your
Raymond (PS0PN) [3434] Probably made rabbit pie or something did you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3435] Oh yes, yeah.
[3436] Hey, you know what we were ... we were doing wrong?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3437] What?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3438] Was [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3439] Yes, yes, yeah, yes, yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3440] Not feeding it!
Scott (PS0R9) [3441] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3442] No, you're not supposed to give them loads of veg!
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3443] Just supposed to have

21 (Tape 029912)

Carrie (PS0RB) [3444] That's why it had the runs!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3445] [...] on the tape.
Emily (PS0RA) [3446] I hear you do it to me!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3447] Being silly!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3448] He told me to say ... end.
Laura (PS0R8) [3449] [laughing] He told me []
Raymond (PS0PN) [3450] Coerce means the same [...] .
Laura (PS0R8) [3451] [laugh] [shouting] He told me to say bum!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3452] That's ladies gonna give me the cane when she hears that!
[3453] She'll say
Carrie (PS0RB) [3454] Calm down!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3455] come here big man what did you say on the
Carrie (PS0RB) [3456] Hey, Scott have you negotiated a percentage?
Scott (PS0R9) [3457] Why?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3458] Argh!
[3459] ... It's alright, listen.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3460] For your appearance on there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3461] Yes.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3462] What did he say?
[3463] Something like, he's got the Ghostbuster bag?
[3464] ... And when the girl was er
Emily (PS0RA) [3465] Take your thumbs off the telly!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3466] had this lady coming round to see the [...] , do you think somebody will buy my Ghostbuster bag?
[3467] Cos I'd cleaned it up the other day cos it had mildew on the bottom of it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3468] Oh [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [3469] Could you move your
Carrie (PS0RB) [3470] So I goes what?
[3471] I said, you think [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3472] The lady only wants conversation.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3473] I said you go to somebody's house
Scott (PS0R9) [3474] [shouting] Who is it [] ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3475] you know, we'd told
Margaret (PS0PP) [3476] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [3477] Please buy it somebody!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3478] Pinning, pinning his hopes on a sale!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3479] Oh sorry Carrie, I hope we're not ... putting you to too much trouble are we here?
[3480] I mean
Carrie (PS0RB) [3481] No, no!
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3482] Bit of a damned cheek isn't it, ay?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3483] You know ... nice
Margaret (PS0PP) [3484] What?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3485] quiet house!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3486] It wasn't pre-arranged was it?
Scott (PS0R9) [3487] Mummy there's a cat coming in our house!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3488] Oh don't bring a cat in love!
[3489] ... She's [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3490] Come on!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3491] anyway!
Scott (PS0R9) [3492] [shouting] [...] [] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [3493] Scratching hell out of Emma!
Scott (PS0R9) [3494] Come on!
[3495] Come on!
[3496] Nanny's in!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3497] No, no I don't like that one anyway!
Scott (PS0R9) [3498] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3499] What's happened to the dog that was across the road, that
Carrie (PS0RB) [3500] Oh, Luka?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3501] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3502] I think they must of sold it, she's had another baby the, that girl. ... [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [3503] She's had a baby and sold the dog!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3504] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Scott (PS0R9) [3505] Sam [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3506] He was a lovely do ... who's Sam?
Scott (PS0R9) [3507] Granddad look!
[3508] Sam the little
Carrie (PS0RB) [3509] Sam, if you don't
Scott (PS0R9) [3510] dog!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3511] Wey!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3512] [...] dog you know the one with the [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3513] The ones at the end of the road?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3514] Mm.
[3515] ... That little [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [3516] The one that kept that getting out when the wall got knocked down or something?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3517] Oh no, not the ... her, not Phoebe no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3518] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3519] Erm ... the feller with the ... big teeth and the three wheeler car down there.
[3520] He used to have like,le ... it was a bit Luka
Scott (PS0R9) [3521] You sit in
Margaret (PS0PP) [3522] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3523] but smaller.
Scott (PS0R9) [3524] your couch.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3525] Lovely dog!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3526] Well what happened?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3527] Well it's been er
Raymond (PS0PN) [3528] That's right, yeah, but I've gotta
Carrie (PS0RB) [3529] put down cos it was old!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3530] Could I take it home with me?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3531] Oh it was old was it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3532] And they got ... a little
Scott (PS0R9) [3533] You've already had it once!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3534] Jack Russell they've got now I think.
[3535] ... It is a Jack Russell.
Scott (PS0R9) [3536] You can have our couch though.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3537] Mm
Laura (PS0R8) [3538] Yeah [...] !
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3539] I used to like that old dog cos he ... he u ... he, often used to come
Carrie (PS0RB) [3540] Although he frightened a few old ladies though!
[3541] ... And he'd run up to you and bark, you know and er ... he was playing but she didn't realise.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3542] Oh, he never barked at me!
Laura (PS0R8) [3543] Mummy!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3544] No!
Scott (PS0R9) [3545] I don't remember any dog!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3546] Actually I thinks
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3547] I think I sort of, won a friend because I'm sure ... that day that we got the groceries and I bought bones for the dogs didn't I?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3548] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3549] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3550] And ... they disappeared, and I'm almost certain I dropped them outside here ... and
Carrie (PS0RB) [3551] Oh I re I don't remember this.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3552] Yes.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3553] While we were shopping.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3554] And er ... if that was the case then ... then
Carrie (PS0RB) [3555] Sheila wo ... Sheila used to give him a bone so maybe he thought
Margaret (PS0PP) [3556] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3557] She used to throw [...] down.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3558] Probably thought it was Christmas when he found those!
Laura (PS0R8) [3559] [...] ... in a minute!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3560] Right, have you got anything to show mummy [...] , any work that you've done lately or ... any [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3561] Any nice pictures?
Scott (PS0R9) [3562] No!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3563] Warts or
Laura (PS0R8) [3564] Yeah!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3565] anything?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3566] Warts!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3567] Oh yeah!
Emily (PS0RA) [3568] [...] Laura!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3569] I thought
Laura (PS0R8) [3570] I haven't
Carrie (PS0RB) [3571] you'd done
Margaret (PS0PP) [3572] What's that?
Laura (PS0R8) [3573] I haven't written in it, I've only written a little
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3574] The ... the what?
[3575] The
Laura (PS0R8) [3576] Ponies.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3577] The Ponies pony.
Laura (PS0R8) [3578] The Ponies Parties!
Scott (PS0R9) [3579] The Ponies Parties!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3580] Oh it's parties?
[3581] I haven't got my glasses on have I?
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3582] Yeah.
Scott (PS0R9) [3583] This is
Carrie (PS0RB) [3584] The Pony [...] pony.
Scott (PS0R9) [3585] a book for Maisy by S ... Me ... a book for Maisy for Scott.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3586] No, I just [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [3587] Oh I see, you've just started this one have you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [...] [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3588] No, if you
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3589] it's from school!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3590] Oh I see.
[3591] ... So
Scott (PS0R9) [3592] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3593] is it finished?
[3594] Have you done something on every page?
Scott (PS0R9) [3595] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3596] Mm mm.
Scott (PS0R9) [3597] It's finished.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3598] What the devil's this?
Scott (PS0R9) [3599] It's slimer.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3600] Oh dear!
[3601] Yes.
[3602] ... A slimer!
Scott (PS0R9) [3603] Yeah, and that's a ghost.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3604] Aha.
[3605] ... Anything else?
Scott (PS0R9) [3606] I haven't much one on the
Margaret (PS0PP) [3607] Oh that's i ... you haven't done that have you?
Scott (PS0R9) [3608] Yeah, I did.
[3609] ... I'm, I'm not
Margaret (PS0PP) [3610] That's good that!
Scott (PS0R9) [3611] showing you the last one!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3612] Why?
[3613] Is it
Scott (PS0R9) [3614] It's horrible!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3615] It's a horrible one is it?
Scott (PS0R9) [3616] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3617] Would I be frightened?
Scott (PS0R9) [3618] Well, it is quite, it's a horrible looking in the Beetlejuice!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3619] Really?
[3620] ... Worse than that?
Scott (PS0R9) [3621] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3622] Oh!
[3623] I we , well I don't wanna be frightened so I'd better not have a look at it!
Scott (PS0R9) [3624] I'll show granddad.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3625] You got your bags?
Scott (PS0R9) [3626] But don't peep then!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3627] Mm ... well you better warn him first!
Laura (PS0R8) [3628] Granddad, the [...] made a red one.
Scott (PS0R9) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3629] Oh great!
[3630] I can't wait for that!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3631] What was the use of this word marry in all the
Scott (PS0R9) [3632] It's the ghost!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3633] [...] ?
Scott (PS0R9) [3634] I didn't want ... nana
Raymond (PS0PN) [3635] However
Scott (PS0R9) [3636] nan to see it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3637] And in Shakespeare's
Raymond (PS0PN) [3638] However
Margaret (PS0PP) [3639] Erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [3640] So marry in [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [3641] No, no, they say
Raymond (PS0PN) [3642] Marry is
Margaret (PS0PP) [3643] marry will you ... erm, I don't know!
[3644] How wo
Raymond (PS0PN) [3645] It's just
Carrie (PS0RB) [3646] [laughing] I kept thinking somebody was getting married [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [3647] No, no!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3648] Marry [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3649] [...] then I realised it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3650] Asked me three bloody times!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3651] Well go on!..
[3652] You're interpretation.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3653] It's just erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [3654] How would you translate that?
Scott (PS0R9) [3655] You can see it ... nanny can see it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3656] What do we say then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3657] However!
[3658] ... Say, it just
Scott (PS0R9) [3659] See it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3660] says.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3661] Ooh yes, that's horrible that isn't it!
[3662] ... Urgh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3663] I thought it was a verb that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3664] [...] denied ... oh put it away!
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3665] No, it's not
Margaret (PS0PP) [3666] mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3667] a verb is it?
Scott (PS0R9) [3668] Here are
Margaret (PS0PP) [3669] Put that in the horror section!
Scott (PS0R9) [3670] you can take it ... take it home [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [3671] It's not a verb it's just the
Margaret (PS0PP) [3672] Yes, I don't know erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [3673] And insertive one which means, you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [3674] in what context you'd use that.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3675] No passion in it is erm ... I mean ... the words that they use is ... a words that I use
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3676] are nothing like the ones that he using!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3677] No, no, [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [3678] No,wha , what
Carrie (PS0RB) [3679] They say what they feel like.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3680] What I find if you you ... when they get to erm ... not necessarily a speech ... but a pertinent part ... you've got to read it two or three times
Carrie (PS0RB) [3681] Analyse.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3682] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3683] and there's the parts that's ... [...] or obvious or ... they're not so important, you know, between
Carrie (PS0RB) [3684] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3685] tha that's how I ... anyway
Carrie (PS0RB) [3686] See it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3687] I can sort of get through it and erm ... understanding it's [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3688] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3689] is the most important thing.
[3690] ... And it does start to sink through after a while.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3691] I was gonna say it can be quite ... laboured when you first read some of it
Carrie (PS0RB) [3692] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3693] because erm ... and you do have to
Carrie (PS0RB) [3694] Especially if you haven't, sort of, read anything like it before, you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [3695] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3696] I mean ... I remember reading a few bits in English but, you know, [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3697] You'll have to buy , have you seen, did you see King Lear when it was on ... on the television?
[3698] Cos I taped that as well.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3699] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3700] You'll have to have a look at that, that's quite good. ... [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3701] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3702] Laurence Olivier.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3703] It's amazing once you reach thirty that ... some sort of [laughing] inside you go [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [3704] Yes, I think they make, I can
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3705] remember going to see ... Hamlet with er ... Laurence Olivier at er ... while I was still at school ... and er ... we thought it
Carrie (PS0RB) [3706] What real?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3707] was great!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3708] Live?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3709] Laurence i ... no, no, the film!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3710] Oh the film!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3711] Mm, you know the black and white one?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3712] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3713] And erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [3714] I tell you what [...] , did you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [3715] must of be , be about nineteen
Carrie (PS0RB) [3716] criticism of him?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3717] fifty one, fifty two ... and we thought it was great going to the pictures, you know, when you were still at school, actually ... you know, in, on a school day sort of thing!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3718] Oh yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3719] And I can
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3720] remember going in and seeing this film ... and, it just ... it didn't ... it was so ... to my mind, and you know thinking back now, my memory of it was of a sort of very ... dark and dreary
Carrie (PS0RB) [3721] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3722] film a , the language meant nothing to me at all!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3723] Mm. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3724] I, I no I couldn't understand it!
[3725] ... And it's only sort of, as you say, when you get older and you
Carrie (PS0RB) [3726] That you learn it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3727] sort of
Carrie (PS0RB) [3728] well that's right, I mean, that's why I wasn't really into it
Margaret (PS0PP) [3729] Becomes more apparent.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3730] cos when I did English at school I just ... you know, you had to learn the poetry and that and
Margaret (PS0PP) [3731] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3732] just say, you can take a poem home and learn it and then recite at the next lesson and then used it just
Margaret (PS0PP) [3733] That's right.
[3734] Cos really
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3735] a lot of it is just parrot-fashion, unless you're a very ... unusual person I think
Carrie (PS0RB) [3736] That's it yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3737] it doesn't really
Carrie (PS0RB) [3738] Brain child!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3739] sort of, have any significance until you get a bit older.
[3740] I don't know whether it's
Carrie (PS0RB) [3741] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3742] sort of, life's experience ... make it mean more to
Carrie (PS0RB) [3743] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3744] to you.
[3745] ... And
Carrie (PS0RB) [3746] Erm ... possibly understand ... through
Margaret (PS0PP) [3747] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3748] you know ex ex experience as you get older.
[3749] ... The the ... that er criticism on er, of the
Margaret (PS0PP) [3750] The tape's on, did you know?
[3751] ... Is it?
[3752] ... Or is that just ... is that on all the time?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3753] No, it's just the light.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3754] Oh, I thought it was running ... okay.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3755] Erm ... of Laurence Olivier, [...] emphasized wro ... wrongly ... you know, when he was speaking ... certain parts into the ... if he thought the audience was flagging then he'd ... speak a bit louder to ... you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [3756] Mm.
[3757] ... [laughing] Wake them up [] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [3758] Then draw them in , yeah, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh] ... [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3759] I should think he's ... totally overrated!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3760] [...] ... Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3761] [...] ... the way he spoke, maybe that his part and not ... he was that, think he's a ... took over the part if you know what I mean?
[3762] Instead of
Margaret (PS0PP) [3763] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3764] just letting people see the part and ... experiencing it
Margaret (PS0PP) [3765] The role.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3766] and, yes, the role of Montesago
Margaret (PS0PP) [3767] Mm and he he became
Carrie (PS0RB) [3768] It was always Laurence Olivier and
Margaret (PS0PP) [3769] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3770] such as, you know the way he plays it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3771] I mean, I can remember seeing an interview with er, John Geilgud and he'd ... he'd done Hamlet many years ago ... and er but ... he said he'd ... it was ... in a totally different way ... you know, different
Carrie (PS0RB) [3772] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3773] interpretation that he put on his ... er
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3774] a much er ... more lyrical, perhaps ... you know, less ... erm ... intense and er
Carrie (PS0RB) [3775] Passionate.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3776] yeah,i ... more ath
Carrie (PS0RB) [3777] So everybody went to sleep?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3778] lot more athletic version if you like, that, than er ... Laurence Olivier, than ... John
Carrie (PS0RB) [3779] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3780] Geilgud did.
[3781] ... And he
Carrie (PS0RB) [3782] I don't think he did anything in his later years did he?
[3783] ... Laurence Olivier to, sort of, equal what ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3784] No.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3785] Any of the films I've seen is all erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [3786] Well erm ... there's ... Richard the Third of course, and er
Carrie (PS0RB) [3787] No I mean, when he was like you know [...] Boys from Brazil, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [3788] Oh yes!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3789] That's cottoned
Margaret (PS0PP) [3790] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3791] on a bit.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3792] Well I can't ... I mean erm ... I think ... he was the kind of person he wanted to ... be as diverse as possible later on, I mean, perhaps he felt ... constrained
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3793] by the
Carrie (PS0RB) [3794] today
Margaret (PS0PP) [3795] fifty eight roles he'd done earlier on in his career and he wanted to sort of you know, have a go at everything [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3796] [reading book] Marrying, marrying on
Margaret (PS0PP) [3797] didn't he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3798] so rank as may dishonour him [] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [3799] Marry ... the, and an apostrophe is it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3800] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3801] Married.
[3802] ... Well then, there's none so er
Carrie (PS0RB) [3803] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3804] you know ... that's the [...] it is.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3805] I wonder why it was ... a [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3806] Well it's just a word like
Margaret (PS0PP) [3807] Well that's, where did they get it from?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3808] An expression.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3809] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3810] [reading] Shall I [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3811] Ooh Thames!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3812] therefore []
Raymond (PS0PN) [3813] You
Margaret (PS0PP) [3814] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [3815] can hardly see why [...] ... [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3816] then
Raymond (PS0PN) [3817] the more you wish
Carrie (PS0RB) [3818] [...] yeah [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [3819] [...] ... Well [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3820] Oh well!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3821] Very ... well said!
[3822] Very well sa ... well read!
[3823] ... That's it ... well done!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3824] Well done!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3825] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3826] Or however ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3827] Or whatever, [...] .
[3828] ... Yes, and it's funny how languages change isn't it, over the ... over the years?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3829] Only when you ... can see words that we've got now that adapted from ... words ... then.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3830] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3831] Some of them ... some of them, you know, slight change.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3832] Yes, some of it's very recognisable.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3833] But some of the words have all gone just now and
Margaret (PS0PP) [3834] Erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [3835] and eventually [...] some speech
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3836] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3837] and the dreams.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3838] Ahh.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3839] And there's some that are er ... non-famous ... it's got a load of [...] in Hamlet.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3840] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3841] So then, I thought oh no, it's just gone over my head this!
[3842] ... So, when I finished reading that ... explanation of it, maybe I'll ... have a stab at it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3843] But it makes you wonder, really, when you ... when you ... look at something like that ... how ... erm ... how well represented that was ... or representative of the kind of language that wa , that was used by er, ordinary people.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3844] At the time, yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3845] I mean ... or is it just the author's view ... of how
Carrie (PS0RB) [3846] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3847] erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [3848] Well it took him
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3849] What?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3850] What about Maisy?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3851] Some people say it was him that wrote it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3852] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3853] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3854] What's [...] ... is that Emily again?
[3855] I'm gonna have
Scott (PS0R9) [3856] Yes!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3857] [shouting] What do you want [] ?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3858] Is this ... our old book? ... [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [3859] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3860] I thought so.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3861] Yeah. [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Scott (PS0R9) [3862] [shouting] Alright, you're [...] [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [3863] Fifteen [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3864] It's updated now isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [3865] Oh aye!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3866] They only wanted to ask me their ... the name of the place beginning with E and a girl's name as well!
[3867] ... Playing this game.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3868] Mm.
[3869] ... What are you making now by the way?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3870] I'm doing pineapple and pear upside down cake ... for yous!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3871] How long is that going to take?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3872] Only half an hour [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3873] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3874] Do it when the fan goes out.
[3875] ... I just lost a bit, oh there it is!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3876] Oh, eggshell?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3877] No ... a bit of ... a bit of not worth mentioning!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3878] Yeah, phoned Jeannette the other day to see what she'd done about college now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3879] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3880] She's so impatient Jeannette!
[3881] ... God, she wants to know everything!
[3882] She's always ... down my ear, saying well what exactly did you do and ... and what did you do next?
[3883] I remember when I ... we I was working when I first met her and I've ... you know, just before I had Scott ... and she said, well how did you get a job?
[3884] What did you do there?
[3885] ... So I was saying, well what about the grant, you know, what do you have to do?
[3886] She said, well just ring Town Hall, you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3887] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [3888] She keen to give you any
Carrie (PS0RB) [3889] Well, yes I know that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3890] information then?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3891] No, not er
Margaret (PS0PP) [3892] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3893] And of course, if her husbands off like, it's ooh don't bother me now, there's a few girls like you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3894] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3895] Cath's gone like that now!
[3896] ... She's sort of, all over you ... all week ... and yet, when her husband is there, not her husband, her boyfriend ... she
Margaret (PS0PP) [3897] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3898] doesn't wanna know, you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3899] Well ... I suppose you can understand in a way.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3900] Well I ... yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3901] [laughing] I do [] !
[3902] ... Sort of!
[3903] ... So ... this [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3904] Oh so
Carrie (PS0RB) [3905] got the three bedrooms ... er ... semi-detached, I'll bring it in, but by erm ... Harden School ... Penalithe ... not Penalithe what's it called?
[3906] Pen ... is it Penalithe ... Pena something anyway.
Raymond (PS0PN) [3907] Penalithe ... yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3908] That [...] , that's
Carrie (PS0RB) [3909] At the Harden
Raymond (PS0PN) [3910] Harden
Carrie (PS0RB) [3911] school.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3912] Is that , oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3913] Or something!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3914] Is it erm ... Consaquay still or is erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [3915] No , you know Harden like
Raymond (PS0PN) [3916] No, Harden
Carrie (PS0RB) [3917] up by the school.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3918] So I'm just wondering
Carrie (PS0RB) [3919] near the
Margaret (PS0PP) [3920] whether they'll be in Harden Newlow or, or Consaquay ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3921] No, erm ... Consaquay's down there isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3922] Mm, but I mean the area you know, it's ... is it
Carrie (PS0RB) [3923] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [3924] a private house or
Carrie (PS0RB) [3925] No, it's a council house.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3926] That's why I say, I wonder whether it's
Carrie (PS0RB) [3927] Still fancy then? ... [...] have to buy that
Margaret (PS0PP) [3928] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3929] right ... but then I knew I told you where
Margaret (PS0PP) [3930] Does that come under Conasquay
Carrie (PS0RB) [3931] where Pauline's hou ... Conasquay's over there! [...] is he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3932] Is he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [3933] It's really not Conasquay
Margaret (PS0PP) [3934] So that would come
Raymond (PS0PN) [3935] You know that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3936] under Harden then?
[3937] I'm just wondering which council it comes under that's all!
Raymond (PS0PN) [3938] Well it's Teebridge
Carrie (PS0RB) [3939] What, well you
Raymond (PS0PN) [3940] With Allan and Dee of course!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3941] you will get the
Raymond (PS0PN) [3942] I mean Allan and Deeside
Carrie (PS0RB) [3943] er [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3944] Or Allan and Deeside then, yes!
[3945] ... Is it all the way along Deeside then?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3946] [...] goes into this house in Buckley, cos she's had to go up to Buckley!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3947] That's right, that's why I'm asking
Carrie (PS0RB) [3948] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3949] you where ... which
Carrie (PS0RB) [3950] I thought you meant ... I don't know what I thought you meant!
[3951] ... [laughing] Which county [] !
[3952] ... Yeah, so she didn't wanna be rushed ... down here ... and ... near where he's gonna be when he comes out.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3953] Comes out?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3954] Comes out of hospital for [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [3955] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3956] Got beaten up didn't he?
[3957] ... So ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3958] This isn't ... which, this isn't the one that was er
Carrie (PS0RB) [3959] Attacked ... yeah.
[3960] ... Not that, not that feller, no!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3961] Oh and, oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3962] Not with the head injuries, no, it was a group of the ... and he was coming out of the ... just coming out ... some pub down in Conasquay ... and he was ... these lads were all singing, apparently this is what happened anyway, they were all singing and ... you know ... making merry and he said, what are you all so ... cheerful about or something? ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [3963] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3964] Went on and on at this young lad who'd spoken who thumped him he'd ... apparently just one punch, I don't know but ... but anyway all the charges have been dropped against this lad now so
Margaret (PS0PP) [3965] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3966] he was frightened to death that ... all Brian's mates, that they were gonna get him!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3967] Oh dear!
Carrie (PS0RB) [3968] All the drunk friends [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [3969] Good heavens!
[3970] ... So
Carrie (PS0RB) [3971] So er ... he's having physio and he's ... he can move his legs now so that's
Margaret (PS0PP) [3972] So
Carrie (PS0RB) [3973] something ... just trauma!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3974] Oh ah!
[3975] ... Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3976] For the, you know the reason he couldn't move.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3977] He was sort of well he ... was paralysed wasn't he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [3978] Traumatised.
[3979] ... Yeah ... from the neck down.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3980] This is the one who's ... was living with another ... woman ... and his
Carrie (PS0RB) [3981] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [3982] wife
Carrie (PS0RB) [3983] Young girl ... she
Margaret (PS0PP) [3984] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3985] worked at the erm ... at The Clwyd ... and he me , you know, he used to be in there all the time!
[3986] Dinner time, night time, you know, as soon as he finished work he was down there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3987] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3988] So ... I mean, now it's apparent why he was there all the time isn't it, you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [3989] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3990] For her.
[3991] ... I didn't know that did I?
[3992] I was [...] ... similar circs ... But
Margaret (PS0PP) [3993] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3994] but erm ... he's been trying to get her back now, you know, but he didn't wanna give up this other girl!
[3995] I mean you can't, he said ... you know, have your cake and eat it sort of thing
Margaret (PS0PP) [3996] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3997] he wanted her to come back to him, but he wanted to ... keep this girl on the go!
Margaret (PS0PP) [3998] Relationship going.
Carrie (PS0RB) [3999] I don't know
Margaret (PS0PP) [4000] Strange!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4001] but, and she's so quiet, Pauline is, if it was me I'd ... be climbing the walls!
[4002] I'd be saying that ... fucking it! ... [...] , she doesn't say that she's ... sort of been ... he's still
Margaret (PS0PP) [4003] Great!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4004] got this other girl, you know and I say
Margaret (PS0PP) [4005] Mm.
[4006] Being matter of fact
Carrie (PS0RB) [4007] [...] Pauline
Margaret (PS0PP) [4008] about it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4009] Yeah.
[4010] ... Suppose
Margaret (PS0PP) [4011] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4012] she can't get too worked up with the asthma in case she er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4013] In case she has an attack.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4014] has an attack!
[4015] Oh that's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4016] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4017] another thing ... Jonathan, Jackie's er, lad, the one that's gone onto Cornwall, he's ... been in hospital he's had another
Margaret (PS0PP) [4018] Again?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4019] attack.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4020] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4021] Yeah, they hadn't been in hospital for a few years, they haven't, I've never known to go in.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4022] Is that the eldest one is it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4023] The eldest one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4024] Yeah, cos they, they've all had
Carrie (PS0RB) [4025] They think it was the stress, I mean moving down to Cornwall!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4026] Well,th oh the ... the three boys and her have all
Carrie (PS0RB) [4027] No, no two boys ... Andrew ... they think have got it, he's just the little ... chubby one I don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [4028] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4029] know if you remember?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4030] Smallest one?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4031] The one that always used to go ... er er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4032] That's right, yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4033] in the cupboards!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4034] Go to the fridge and eat all my bananas and that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4035] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4036] But er Scott [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4037] Couldn't say the language but he could ... polish
Carrie (PS0RB) [4038] He ... that's right, well he's seeing a speech therapist now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4039] Is he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4040] Jonathan has to [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4041] So he did have a problem then?
[4042] ... Obviously.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4043] Yeah , well Jackie she had see a speech therapist and she did have trouble pronouncing ... can't remember
Margaret (PS0PP) [4044] Words.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4045] what sh , words, but now and again she'd start to say something and then she'd ... sort of, find an easier an [laughing] way to say it [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [4046] Yes.
[4047] ... Yeah, an alternative.
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4048] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4049] So er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4050] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4051] Okay, we'll stay till the kids are here.
Carrie (PS0RB) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4052] Anyway, so ... he's out of hospital now is he ... the other
Carrie (PS0RB) [4053] Who?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4054] one?
[4055] ... The
Carrie (PS0RB) [4056] Brian?
[4057] ... I don't know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4058] No, no, the la ... no, Jackie's little boy.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4059] Oh, yeah!
[4060] Just one night she said.
[4061] ... Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4062] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4063] One night in hospital, but she thinks, she said after that, and he is improving and he's doing P E now so
Margaret (PS0PP) [4064] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4065] he must be improving [...] , perhaps the air down is different from here.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4066] Yes, I was gonna say it's gotta be better
Carrie (PS0RB) [4067] Not like here.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4068] than here because it's erm ... so damp down here isn't it, near the river?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4069] And plus, you know, she's in flat now where she's got heating and ... it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4070] Yeah.
[4071] ... Good God, yeah, she was frozen in that house wasn't she?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4072] Oh God!
[4073] ... Terrible in there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4074] Like the North Pole up there.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4075] It was, yeah.
[4076] ... But she's sworn me to secrecy.
[4077] Mind you, I wasn't gonna tell anybody she was writing to me anyway!
[4078] ... Just in case he's gets a whiff of it, you know.
[4079] ... I don't know how she's gonna [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4080] Well what difference would that make, with, I mean
Carrie (PS0RB) [4081] Well because he's very ... he's been very awkward with her hasn't he?
[4082] And [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4083] And he's not gonna be all, going all the way down to Devon
Carrie (PS0RB) [4084] Oh no!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4085] though is he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4086] No , er, he has got relatives down there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4087] Really?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4088] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4089] Oh good heavens!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4090] That's how she met him ... at relatives party.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4091] Oh!
[4092] ... Well what about the
Carrie (PS0RB) [4093] Distant rel ... relatives like.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4094] well it's more ... likely that she's gonna see ... one of the relatives than him, isn't it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4095] Mm.
[4096] ... That's true, yeah!
[4097] ... His aunty, I think it was.
[4098] But whether she'll be ... very sympathetic to Jackie ... none o ... none of Jackie's family came to the wedding, like you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4099] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4100] Anyway, she's got the hots for this feller down there that she used to go out with ... he's about ... forty eight or something like that but ... She pref , preferred
Margaret (PS0PP) [4101] Jackie, this is?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4102] them older.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4103] Jackie?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4104] No, this feller that she likes, she's ... she's younger than me, Jackie!
[4105] ... Wouldn't know it would you to
Margaret (PS0PP) [4106] No.
[4107] ... And she's found somebody already?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4108] Well, this feller Colin ... i , she used to go out with him ... before ... she met ... Steve ... she used to, she went on a nanny's course, she went to college to be a nanny
Margaret (PS0PP) [4109] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4110] and she was going out with him like and ... seeing pictures of her when she was younger and she's just the sa , big ... but
Margaret (PS0PP) [4111] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4112] a young face, you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4113] [...] ... and erm ... how am I gonna do this?
[4114] Oh my God!
[4115] ... Where's the milk?
[4116] ... Anyway ... he came up to London, she went to London to be a nanny to this woman with three kids like, you know, two babies and a ... an older one ... and she said he came up at a time, he said, sorry, you know, gotta finish ... he's got this girl ... pregnant!
[4117] ... So he married her ... this girl ... anyway, they're divorced now, like you know, I thought
Margaret (PS0PP) [4118] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4119] I mean, Jackie hoping there might be some sort of ... spark ... left.
[4120] ... She lo , I mean she's a lovely girl though!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4121] Ni , a nice natured girl
Carrie (PS0RB) [4122] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4123] yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4124] Very, oh very ... loves children
Margaret (PS0PP) [4125] Easy going.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4126] yeah.
[4127] ... Easy going nature and ... you know ... just
Margaret (PS0PP) [4128] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4129] a bit sort of I don't know, easily ... strayed i
Margaret (PS0PP) [4130] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4131] So ... mind you, if you ... your confidence is knocked for so long yo ... you only
Margaret (PS0PP) [4132] Well I
Carrie (PS0RB) [4133] believe in what everyone
Margaret (PS0PP) [4134] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4135] says in the end!
[4136] I mean, her dad wasn't the best of dads to her so
Margaret (PS0PP) [4137] So i ... well, presumably she's near ... her family, her parents
Carrie (PS0RB) [4138] Yeah ... and her [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4139] Erm ... she must be getting ... some kind of
Carrie (PS0RB) [4140] Yes, yeah, and her life's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4141] support?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4142] sort of built up, her mum and dad come you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4143] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4144] [...] and down there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4145] Mm.
[4146] ... Are you gonna read that ... all that book?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4147] Me
Carrie (PS0RB) [4148] Mmm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4149] yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4150] [laughing] Why, do you want to read it [] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4151] [laughing] No [] !
Carrie (PS0RB) [4152] You'd rather converse [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [4153] No, I'll just read some of it.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4154] Put these in the little house, they like them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4155] Oh!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4156] [...] [...] things, peanuts ... and er
Raymond (PS0PN) [4157] Peanuts?
[4158] ... Where?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4159] You're not having peanuts!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4160] We're gonna get those out to have with tea dad.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4161] Ah
Carrie (PS0RB) [4162] [singing] Peanuts [] !
[4163] ... Oh Scott's mad for peanuts!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4164] Is he [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4165] No.
[4166] ... The girls would be mad if they could get near it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4167] If they could get to them before Scott
Carrie (PS0RB) [4168] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4169] you mean?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4170] Now they keep saying, mummy you always give him more than you give us!
[4171] You're always give him the last sweet to him!
[4172] ... You always let him get away things!
[4173] [laugh] ... You know, [laughing] [...] , yeah I do you know [] !
[4174] ... But then I have to say, remind myself to be a bit more ... stern with him!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4175] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4176] But er ... I was saying to Mrs the other day, asked about Scott ... what the heck!
[4177] Oh I was on about sewing cos I said I'd let them, you know, they were all doing a bit of sewing the other weekend, they all had a go like ... erm ... ooh, you know, I was saying he ... that Scott can cook and that, you know, we've had a note [...] ... he's having one on, supposed to be all ... all of them to be independent, you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4178] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4179] But I always seem to end up lecturing when I'm [laughing] talking to him, you know instead of just [] ... saying, I was saying ... I want them all to be independent, you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4180] She must think I'm really mad!
[4181] ... You know, this divorced woman, you know!
[4182] ... She's very nice Ann, she's okay.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4183] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4184] We've got to do er, we were doing these Mother's Day cards and she said, oh we've got to ta , the curriculum has changed now
Margaret (PS0PP) [4185] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4186] the teachers aren't allowed to dictate ... the children, if they want ... erm ... to do something or make something they have to make up a plan of what they're gonna do first
Margaret (PS0PP) [4187] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4188] and they have to think of it all by themselves, the teachers can't say ooh ... ooh well put flowers on there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4189] They can't suggest anything.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4190] That's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4191] Yeah.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4192] it, yeah, and she said a ... cos he's like it, she said it is very hard she said, I'm used to ... saying
Margaret (PS0PP) [4193] Showing them.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4194] Yeah, do this
Margaret (PS0PP) [4195] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4196] and they I said, yeah, so I got ... oh and they came up with some really good a ... ideas, you know!
[4197] ... Cut out
Margaret (PS0PP) [4198] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4199] cards and that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4200] Yeah ... quite spontaneous.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4201] Two of these halves on a turtle design ... erm [laughing] er [] the door had two halves but they managed to put one part like that, cut
Margaret (PS0PP) [4202] Make them look like turtles!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4203] it out and [laughing] put legs on [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4204] And she said, oh yes, she [laughing] di []
Margaret (PS0PP) [4205] Fine children!
Carrie (PS0RB) [4206] [laugh] So I hope they [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4207] It just shows you how they're in ... influenced though doesn't it, by
Carrie (PS0RB) [4208] Yeah.
[4209] ... But the
Margaret (PS0PP) [4210] you know?
Carrie (PS0RB) [4211] rest of them, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [4212] films and television
Carrie (PS0RB) [4213] Ooh they looked terrible!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4214] and
Carrie (PS0RB) [4215] Yeah.
[4216] ... Oh, there were ones that didn't look like Mother's day cards but still!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4217] But er ... Mr sort of ... the student teacher there, he's a bit of alright, like!
[4218] He's a bit young for me!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4219] And er ... he was hovering behind me in the classroom, like [laughing] you know [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [4220] I mean, [laughing] he was getting something out of the cupboard,ha nothing to do with me [] !
[4221] ... But er, Laura likes him like, you know, she says ... Jamie ... pinched my crisps before, you know ... just imagine all these little girls [...] giggling!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4222] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4223] And ... all the classroom.
[4224] ... And erm ... when we were doing these cards ... Mrs , that's Scott's old teacher, she's very nice, very modern
Margaret (PS0PP) [4225] Mm.
Carrie (PS0RB) [4226] was telling this story about this princess, this very erm ... independent princess didn't wanna know about the [laughing] prince, like er, it was quite a funny story [] !
[4227] ... But er ... gosh, you [...] , you made me jump you!
[4228] You know, [...] so they must of been talking about it

22 (Tape 030001)

Raymond (PS0PN) [4229] Twenty four hour television, now then.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4230] Thanks.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4231] Yeah, we have the technology.
Ken (PS0RC) [4232] Forty eight hours , forty eight hours!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4233] Forty eight hours?
[4234] ... Oh a new telly to go with it, look at this!
[4235] ... New telly.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4236] Ooh ooh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4237] My word!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4238] Hey [...] we got [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4239] What's all this on Thames?
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4240] It's ... it's [...] is it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4241] He'll be wanted satellite now!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4242] Ooh that's nice!
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4243] What's this, an Amstrad is it?
[4244] It's the fo
Margaret (PS0PP) [4245] I is it the four screen one we've been watching?
Ken (PS0RC) [4246] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4247] Is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4248] Oh that's very clear then.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4249] So it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4250] But it is [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [4251] [...] screen!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4252] That's
Ken (PS0RC) [4253] Not the same.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4254] Oh! [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4255] What's that er ... that
Margaret (PS0PP) [4256] Where d'you go?
[4257] ... Where did go, Roberts's?
Ken (PS0RC) [4258] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4259] Mhm.
[4260] ... We said you would.
[4261] ... Looked in there didn't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4262] I thank you sir!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4263] Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [4264] They put up the telly [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4265] Why d'you keep telling me?
Ken (PS0RC) [4266] [...] the back.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4267] That could well be
Margaret (PS0PP) [4268] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [4269] something else.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4270] I think they've gotta [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [4271] Signals.
Ken (PS0RC) [4272] Now that's something I won't [...] with a bit sloping down.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4273] Oh now it's on the back of the house?
Ken (PS0RC) [4274] That's right
Margaret (PS0PP) [4275] and then
Ken (PS0RC) [4276] so the house may need
Margaret (PS0PP) [4277] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4278] a place [...] would it, wouldn't have been
Margaret (PS0PP) [4279] Oh, in the right spot?
Ken (PS0RC) [4280] It doesn't, it's not too bad there like, especially when we went to, you know it's not ... there's no [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [4281] Yeah.
[4282] ... Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4283] But er ... they said I couldn't have it there
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4284] the wind would get
Margaret (PS0PP) [4285] Ye
Ken (PS0RC) [4286] it too much.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4287] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4288] Oh funny thing I was ... having a look at one of Carrie's, she's got the Radio Times which we don't get, only at Christmas time.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4289] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4290] And have ... having a look a the er ... the films you know ... Sky and er, what's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4291] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4292] the other one?
Ken (PS0RC) [4293] Sky one and two it is.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4294] Oh is that ha , is that [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4295] But there's an ano , there was some other name wasn't there?
[4296] No?
Ken (PS0RC) [4297] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4298] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4299] What both ... from the same ... same dish?
Ken (PS0RC) [4300] Yeah.
[4301] ... Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4302] And all o
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4303] all the different erm films that are on, you know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4304] [...] pay monthly for that now or
Ken (PS0RC) [4305] No, I borrowed that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4306] No, but I mean don't you have to pay for those
Ken (PS0RC) [4307] Oh for the films, I haven't got, I haven't got that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4308] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4309] What's that?
[4310] How does that work then?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4311] I don't understand at all.
Ken (PS0RC) [4312] Well you have to have, you have to have a ... the only the trouble with it is, I've got [...] , I'll either have to put them up here ... or I'll have to ... scrape ... scrape some of the wall out ... I can't close the door!
[4313] ... I measured everything bar there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4314] Is it the way [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4315] Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4316] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4317] I thought you meant the shelf was up [...] wrong!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4318] Oh that's ... too deep!
Ken (PS0RC) [4319] You see ... I've
Margaret (PS0PP) [4320] Oh.
Ken (PS0RC) [4321] it's not to deep, it fits in.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4322] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4323] But what I've got
Raymond (PS0PN) [4324] It don't
Ken (PS0RC) [4325] you've got have the aerial at the back ... and that connects
Raymond (PS0PN) [4326] And that's protruding you see.
Ken (PS0RC) [4327] You see.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4328] I see.
Ken (PS0RC) [4329] And like, so I can't close the door.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4330] I didn't think you had to ha ... have the aerial coming from the ... [...] for the hole in the wall.
Ken (PS0RC) [4331] [laughing] Yeah [] !
[4332] You [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4333] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4334] I'll just have them on there you see, that's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4335] Mm.
[4336] ... Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4337] So as I can [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4338] Oh, that's a shame!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4339] Couldn't you have that hinge mounted ... slightly further forward
Ken (PS0RC) [4340] I've asked for a [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4341] on the ... on the [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4342] that's for so much.
[4343] That's what they want ... that's what they used for it [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [4344] That would hold it dead out then wouldn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4345] I told them I've lost my [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [4346] No, it wouldn't make any
Margaret (PS0PP) [4347] Put it
Raymond (PS0PN) [4348] difference.
Ken (PS0RC) [4349] Save the hassle, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4350] Alright, well i well it would!
[4351] Surely it would!
[4352] ... I mean if you've set that there
Raymond (PS0PN) [4353] Why?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4354] at the moment.
[4355] ... I mean you'd
Raymond (PS0PN) [4356] No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4357] have a gap.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4358] You won't!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4359] I mean hi
Ken (PS0RC) [4360] Well normally you'd see
Raymond (PS0PN) [4361] Well no, [...] you'd have to alter the other one as well wouldn't you, to make it e ... even
Margaret (PS0PP) [4362] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4363] Yes, oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [4364] Mm
Ken (PS0RC) [4365] ay!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4366] Mm
Ken (PS0RC) [4367] But I mean it wouldn't, you wouldn't close that [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4368] The only other thing
Ken (PS0RC) [4369] on that ... it wouldn't close on that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4370] The only other thing you could do
Raymond (PS0PN) [4371] Oh ah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4372] Ken is have those taken off ... and, is this a door here?
Ken (PS0RC) [4373] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4374] And have those mounted on the bottom ... so that it's a drop down shelf.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4375] What would that do?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4376] But there again it still wouldn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [4377] Wouldn't do anything!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4378] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4379] Couldn't use that though could you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4380] Well, no, I'm just thinking you could ... have it sent [...] , but I mean it was just ... be on that one now wouldn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4381] No it still wouldn't , no it still wouldn't close would it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4382] Wouldn't close would it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4383] You could do the same with both of them though wouldn't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4384] Oh absolutely!
[4385] ... Oh!
[4386] So
Ken (PS0RC) [sneeze]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4387] Same thing is to take the ... take screws off and just try and door and see whether how much ... extra ... space you need, I mean, maybe ... you might be able to do it by just [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4388] Well it
Margaret (PS0PP) [4389] Well I'm sure, I'm sure
Raymond (PS0PN) [4390] Yeah but you can tell when you put
Margaret (PS0PP) [4391] you could ... move that forward there!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4392] Well gotta have the hole haven't you?
[4393] Space
Margaret (PS0PP) [4394] I know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4395] between the
Margaret (PS0PP) [4396] Yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4397] two
Margaret (PS0PP) [4398] You're not gonna see it cos there's one on the end, it's right next to the wall isn't it?
[4399] ... Have a gap there but I mean ... whereas at the moment it's like that, not to that.
Ken (PS0RC) [4400] Even though it's on the front
Margaret (PS0PP) [4401] [...] to there
Ken (PS0RC) [4402] of the cabinet aren't you, it's gonna protrude beyond ... close the
Margaret (PS0PP) [4403] But
Ken (PS0RC) [4404] right hand one now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4405] but it does now though doesn't it?
[4406] ... I mean they're sticking out
Ken (PS0RC) [4407] Well I mean, you're gonna be another
Margaret (PS0PP) [4408] like that.
Ken (PS0RC) [4409] It's gonna be another inch isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4410] Yeah, but that's neither here nor there!
[4411] Cos the top's got a good overlap.
[4412] ... I mean you wouldn't notice that would you Ken?
[4413] ... I wouldn't be bothered about that.
[4414] ... Just looking for a solution to the problem that's all!
[4415] ... Got to think about these things you know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4416] Ooh, I know what I was going to do!
[4417] ... [...] ... Going on broadcasting now? ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4418] No it's Sally's, it's Sally's.
Ken (PS0RC) [4419] What is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4420] [...] broadcast.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4421] No, it is, it is the same thing actually.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4422] [sigh] Erm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4423] I, I sort of meant to bring one of those one of those forms home.
Ken (PS0RC) [4424] You've got your earphones have you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4425] No, they're ordinary earphones.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4426] Well there are, [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [4427] You're taping on there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4428] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4429] I'm gonna be a spy!
[4430] Training!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4431] Well you might get some facts right if you did!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4432] [laugh] ... They want
Margaret (PS0PP) [4433] No those
Raymond (PS0PN) [4434] all the funny accents in [laughing] the area [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4435] What for?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4436] This lady came round from er
Raymond (PS0PN) [4437] Here are, I'll turn it off.
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]

23 (Tape 030002)

Raymond (PS0PN) [4438] Oh I don't wanna [...] , what's that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4439] Oh my Godfather! ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4440] Oh is this your er
Ken (PS0RC) [4441] after one [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [4442] Is this these ... what do they call it?
[4443] ... The erm ... oracle is it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4444] This is er ... I don't know!
[4445] ... This is for your telly.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4446] Good
Margaret (PS0PP) [4447] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4448] grief!
Ken (PS0RC) [4449] [...] if you please?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4450] Which these, Ken?
Ken (PS0RC) [4451] Yeah.
[4452] ... And that's for your telly.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4453] I hate i , when did
Ken (PS0RC) [4454] That goes down.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4455] they put it, install it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4456] Yesterday.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4457] So ... they've obviously given you instructions on how to
Ken (PS0RC) [4458] No, they didn't because they didn't finish till half five ... they didn't get here till ... I got soaked yesterday morning!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4459] Ooh, I'm not
Ken (PS0RC) [4460] So I
Margaret (PS0PP) [4461] surprised!
Ken (PS0RC) [4462] So I, I didn't there
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4463] I didn't finish [...] well I ... I
Margaret (PS0PP) [4464] I
Ken (PS0RC) [4465] and I turned round!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4466] I knew you had!
[4467] I thought I bet Ken will go down the road and
Ken (PS0RC) [4468] [...] ... I mean it was all white [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [4469] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4470] Poor old Lucy!
[4471] ... I bet you were soaking!
Ken (PS0RC) [4472] From here I was, I was s ... soaked!
[4473] ... So that's er ... that's your control for your telly.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4474] Mm. [tv on]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4475] Hiya!
[4476] ... Lucy!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4477] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4478] And then you've got your [...] there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4479] Bigger picture isn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4480] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4481] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4482] And you've got i ... you know, it's a bigger screen.
[4483] ... Yes, I know you're there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4484] [laugh] ... Ah ha ha ha ha ha!
Ken (PS0RC) [4485] Then ... then you've got your ... your screen ... er ... your ... ga da what's his name?
[4486] ... It shows your
Margaret (PS0PP) [4487] The volume?
Ken (PS0RC) [4488] it shows you're on your volume you see, and it shows you
Margaret (PS0PP) [4489] Oh you've gotta
Ken (PS0RC) [4490] there what what, how you
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4491] whatever you're ... doing.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4492] Oh!
[4493] And how does go off round to
Ken (PS0RC) [4494] Yeah, that goes there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4495] Put it there.
Ken (PS0RC) [4496] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4497] Oh Lu !
[4498] Oh Lu !
Ken (PS0RC) [4499] It does [...] ... this is er ... this can control your ... your er
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4500] your stations as well.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4501] Is that for ... for trapping it in or tuning it in at all or a different thing?
Ken (PS0RC) [4502] No, this is this is just for changing the stations.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4503] Oh you just pick it and it'll ... Is that Channel Four?
[4504] How do you know which station it is?
Ken (PS0RC) [4505] Well it, it comes on there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4506] Oh, it comes on the screen does it?
[4507] Oh [...] ... Oh yeah, one, one!
Ken (PS0RC) [...] ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4508] But if you wanted you could [...] ?
Ken (PS0RC) [4509] Now there, you can have your what's it's name?
[4510] ... But er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4511] What are the colours at the bottom?
Ken (PS0RC) [4512] Th ... th , those aren't working options either.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4513] Mm mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4514] So that's
Raymond (PS0PN) [4515] no that's er ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [4516] Quietly! ... [...] manufacturers [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [4517] Well this is er ... this is ... see whatever's on B B C one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4518] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4519] Then you've gotta
Margaret (PS0PP) [4520] Oh it's [...] isn't it?
[4521] I wonder if Kelly's taping that?
Ken (PS0RC) [4522] I haven't even looked what's on tonight.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4523] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4524] Cos I've had it I haven't bothered ... I didn't
Margaret (PS0PP) [4525] You haven't bothered to look! [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4526] So er ... that's that ... you've also got
Margaret (PS0PP) [4527] Look!
Ken (PS0RC) [...] ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4528] Obviously the end of the film and he's come back!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4529] I've seen that one you know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4530] Yes it's been on.
[4531] It has been on before.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4532] Well what about ... Sky and that, Ken?
Ken (PS0RC) [4533] Yes I have, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4534] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4535] Yeah just [...] .
[4536] ... V C R.
Ken (PS0RC) [4537] Excuse me a minute!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4538] Do you have to point it at the telly?
[4539] It's a good idea I suppose.
Ken (PS0RC) [4540] Put it ... you have to ... Channel Ten, you want it on Channel Ten for your bedroom.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4541] For the ah
Ken (PS0RC) [4542] Er, for your ... for Sky.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4543] For Sky.
Ken (PS0RC) [4544] And that's er
Raymond (PS0PN) [4545] [yawn] Well I thought you had to pay for that Ken?
[4546] ... Which is the one you have to pay for?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4547] What one of the stations that you receive?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4548] Every month.
Ken (PS0RC) [4549] Er ... your film channels.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4550] Oh that isn't Sky?
[4551] ... Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [4552] Yeah ... it's Sky
Raymond (PS0PN) [4553] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [4554] but that's, that's Channel that's ... that's your first channel on your what's his name?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4555] Well!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4556] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4557] That's Channel Two.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4558] Is er, is it ... continental tv or
Ken (PS0RC) [4559] Continental and British tele
Margaret (PS0PP) [4560] I see!
Ken (PS0RC) [4561] British.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4562] So you could watch French television or German television?
Ken (PS0RC) [4563] Well you can watch German mostly.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4564] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4565] Er ... you know you got all the different channels.
Raymond (PS0PN) [yawn]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4566] So how many are, are there there?
Ken (PS0RC) [4567] Ooh there's well this this will hold fifty channels.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4568] Agh!
Ken (PS0RC) [4569] But there's not fifty channels put on.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4570] No, oh no not all [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4571] Not yet.
Ken (PS0RC) [4572] There's not er ... so whatever channels there are, well you know that ... there's a lot of them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4573] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4574] So which one have you got to pay for?
Ken (PS0RC) [4575] Wait a minute!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4576] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [sigh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4577] Well I'm [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4578] See that's one
Margaret (PS0PP) [4579] Oh I see!
Ken (PS0RC) [4580] there you've got to have a card.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4581] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4582] But the [...] is the [...] for that, I mean?
Ken (PS0RC) [4583] This is the card for
Margaret (PS0PP) [4584] Lots of things.
Ken (PS0RC) [4585] the, excuse me!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4586] So you've gotta buy the cards
Ken (PS0RC) [4587] No, you have to ... buy the card
Raymond (PS0PN) [4588] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4589] Where do you get those from then?
Ken (PS0RC) [4590] Well you ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4591] Television shop is it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4592] Er, yeah.
[4593] ... They're like that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4594] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4595] How much?
[4596] ... Depending on
Ken (PS0RC) [4597] Er, well it depends er ... one or the two, you can either one or two.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4598] All the same price?
Ken (PS0RC) [4599] No ... one
Raymond (PS0PN) [4600] Ah, oh I see ... one's one.
Ken (PS0RC) [4601] One is for , one is, one is about er ... it's about nine pounds I think, for one ... for twelve
Margaret (PS0PP) [4602] For the card?
Ken (PS0RC) [4603] for twelve months.
[4604] ... Er, no nine pounds a month isn't it?
[4605] ... Er, the other one is er ... about seventeen pounds for the two.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4606] So you can watch
Ken (PS0RC) [4607] So ... so you're saving [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4608] watch as many as you can.
Ken (PS0RC) [4609] And you just ... Bob, Bob gave me
Raymond (PS0PN) [4610] Er, er if you like [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [4611] thi , Bob gave me this but er ... unfortunately you see ... but er yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [4612] It won't go in.
Ken (PS0RC) [4613] It will go in
Raymond (PS0PN) [4614] Nothing happens!
Ken (PS0RC) [4615] You're card is invalid.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4616] Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [4617] It's, it's, it's run out!
[4618] ... It tells you the date.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4619] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4620] Oh!
[4621] ... Mm!
Ken (PS0RC) [4622] See?
[4623] ... So that you can't
Margaret (PS0PP) [4624] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4625] so you can't use it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4626] Well what did he give you that for? [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4627] Well no, he thought it was
Raymond (PS0PN) [4628] It's, oh yeah!
Ken (PS0RC) [4629] it was er ... in
Margaret (PS0PP) [4630] He thought he had some more left.
Ken (PS0RC) [4631] It's still er
Raymond (PS0PN) [4632] A good one!
[4633] Yes ... valid.
Ken (PS0RC) [4634] Get off!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4635] So what are they for, for?
[4636] Are they just for a month are they ... the cards?
Ken (PS0RC) [4637] No, you get them, you can get them
Margaret (PS0PP) [4638] Or twelve months.
Ken (PS0RC) [4639] for twelve months.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4640] If you can ... oh, but you gonna pay
Ken (PS0RC) [4641] That's right you have to you have to
Raymond (PS0PN) [4642] obviously and
Ken (PS0RC) [4643] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4644] seventy quid or something?
Ken (PS0RC) [4645] Well the first time you have to get it for at least six months.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4646] Do you really?
Ken (PS0RC) [4647] Then you can get it monthly after that if you want.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4648] So it's quite expensive really when you think
Raymond (PS0PN) [4649] It's not cheap!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4650] about it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4651] Depends what you want, if you wanna watch ... a lot of films.
Ken (PS0RC) [4652] Well, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [4653] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4654] that is er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4655] Yeah.
[4656] ... Well, I must say
Raymond (PS0PN) [4657] You know, you might have three or four lads that's going to work in the family all, like, watching films
Margaret (PS0PP) [4658] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4659] an , and then it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [4660] Well it's not that, it's the
Raymond (PS0PN) [4661] If there's only you [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4662] the fact you get the films or ... recent films
Raymond (PS0PN) [4663] Not all of them they're not!
Ken (PS0RC) [4664] Not all of them
Margaret (PS0PP) [4665] No?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4666] Some
Ken (PS0RC) [4667] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4668] are old, they got one er erm
Ken (PS0RC) [4669] Oh, no some of them are really old ones!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4670] Yeah, nineteen fifty seven
Margaret (PS0PP) [4671] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4672] one I notice.
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4673] Ooh yeah, oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4674] [...] aren't
Raymond (PS0PN) [4675] Ah
Margaret (PS0PP) [4676] you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4677] I don't know why
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4678] erm
Ken (PS0RC) [4679] You get er
Raymond (PS0PN) [4680] Whether they're hard to get or whether they haven't got them on the ... normal channels I don't know!
[4681] ... [yawn] But that's another thing ... sport ... you get a lot of sport on here [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4682] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4683] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4684] And, [...] so you can't
Raymond (PS0PN) [4685] Especially winter sports, you see er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4686] think of that i i i if you ... have a particular interest ... what are the other things that
Raymond (PS0PN) [4687] Games.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4688] specialities that you can get?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4689] Quiz games from
Margaret (PS0PP) [4690] Quiz games.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4691] a around
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4692] you can get can't you Ken?
Ken (PS0RC) [4693] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4694] From America and er
Ken (PS0RC) [4695] But, but yeah, you know er
Raymond (PS0PN) [4696] and Europe
Ken (PS0RC) [4697] Europe, England er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4698] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4699] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [4700] these things.
[4701] ... They're all er ... you can get
Raymond (PS0PN) [4702] You could get
Ken (PS0RC) [4703] er er you can get stereo sound on it as well you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4704] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4705] You can get ... I mean, it's not connected up but you can have er ... you can have it connected it up to the ra , to the radio and get concerts through the stere
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4706] in stereo.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4707] Mm ... [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [4708] You know, you can get the er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4709] [...] gonna go for the [...] ... commercial presentation, ha!
[4710] [...] ... Could do without my [...] it's grown to nothing since I moved! ... [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4711] Well you get, you get you get programme [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4712] God, it's like a horror!
Ken (PS0RC) [4713] It's, it's the ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4714] Adverts.
Ken (PS0RC) [4715] adverts.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4716] Mm.
[4717] ... Mm!
[4718] ... Mm ... She's got one as well.
[4719] ... And his secretary.
[4720] ... Are they American Ken or ... so , she sounds American. [tv on]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4721] A lot of them.
Ken (PS0RC) [4722] Ooh they've got er ... this ... a cockerel ... with ... well one's, one's a cockerel ... doing commercials [...] ... you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4723] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4724] Oh she's [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [4725] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4726] Wouldn't it save?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4727] It looks good that doesn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4728] Oh!
[4729] Oh that's
Ken (PS0RC) [4730] That's [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4731] Yeah.
[4732] ... Make them worse!
[4733] ... That's true that!
[4734] ... Oh!
[4735] ... Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4736] Oh God!
Ken (PS0RC) [4737] Oh that's only a false nail!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4738] Just a false nail Ray!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4739] I know that, but it's underneath.
Ken (PS0RC) [4740] [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [4741] yes, I believe [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [4742] [...] , yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4743] What if they're bitten to ruddy hell?
[4744] ... Mm, got the [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4745] Mm.
[4746] ... Listen ... well if they're long nails already they're
Raymond (PS0PN) [4747] Right.
[4748] ... Oh that's clever for getting the polish off!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4749] Yeah, just a bit.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4750] Trouble is, the bloody finger falls off as well!
[4751] ... Gosh, is this all it's for this television?
[4752] ... We've had twenty minutes on the same thing!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4753] Oh God!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4754] Yeah, that's the thing ... channel select. ... [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [4755] [...] were on the blink!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4756] Yeah, well I knew you said the erm ... the
Ken (PS0RC) [4757] So
Margaret (PS0PP) [4758] video was going a bit haywire!
Ken (PS0RC) [4759] So I'll get that er ... I'll get it done ... get one, get both of them done ... and then er
Raymond (PS0PN) [4760] So you can't get this now then?
[4761] ... Movie Channel?
Ken (PS0RC) [4762] I can't ... no I can't get the Movie Channel.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4763] Well what can you get then ... withou ... without the card?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4764] Got to find the stations.
Ken (PS0RC) [4765] Well no, I can get er ... I can get ... what er ... well I, well you can go through them on that ... just ... press there ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4766] Style of these guys!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4767] It's incredible channels and look!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4768] Look at him!
[4769] ... Gee!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4770] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4771] That's ... here are you can go, you can go through that now ... just keep ... pressing ... that ... one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine
Raymond (PS0PN) [4772] Ah.
Ken (PS0RC) [4773] and then press that one and it'll go up to
Raymond (PS0PN) [4774] Well where do you go?
Ken (PS0RC) [4775] It's fif , as I say, there's fif , that's one now, you've got it on one.
[4776] ... It's dif , I mean, some of them there's nothing on!
[4777] ... Ah that's ... because you've pressed that ... no, you're pressing too quick!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4778] He's helpless!
Ken (PS0RC) [4779] Just, leave it!
[4780] Let it go!
[4781] ... And just press three ... oh not one again!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4782] He doesn't look at the numbers!
Ken (PS0RC) [4783] You've gotta look at yo , you're doing!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4784] Oh it's Ger , German is it?
[4785] ... Here are!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4786] Now ... let it go!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4787] Oh it's different to the other one isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4788] Erm
Ken (PS0RC) [4789] There's nothing on that one ... on four.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4790] Why delay on the ... cos it's gotta search round this
Ken (PS0RC) [4791] I suppose it's gotta
Raymond (PS0PN) [4792] Oh I see now, yeah!
[4793] ... Indoor fun board.
[4794] ... Gee whizz!
[4795] ... Oh this is the what's a name they do on the surf board, acrobatics!
Ken (PS0RC) [4796] They were doing this , they were doing this lo , yesterday ... this su , windsurfing, they were doing windsurfing indoors.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4797] Go on!
Ken (PS0RC) [4798] They'd got these big fans
Margaret (PS0PP) [...] ...
Ken (PS0RC) [4799] they got and the way they were rac
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4800] racing, and they got these big fans ... and they [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4801] Good God!
Ken (PS0RC) [4802] yeah it was!
[4803] ... It was all [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4804] Cos they're tremendous with the ... swimming pool
Ken (PS0RC) [4805] indoor
Raymond (PS0PN) [4806] or whatever it is.
Ken (PS0RC) [4807] it was!
[4808] ... And they were, the speeds they were getting up to!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4809] Look at this!
[4810] ... Gee whizz!
Ken (PS0RC) [4811] Look at that!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4812] How the devil do they contro !
Margaret (PS0PP) [4813] This is what Carl ... he used to erm
Ken (PS0RC) [4814] Well Bob, Bob does windsurfing!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4815] like go in the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4816] he doesn't do that though!
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4817] Choo!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4818] Wey!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4819] These are the girls these are!
Ken (PS0RC) [4820] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4821] Choo!
[4822] ... They must be strong in the legs!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4823] And the arms.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4824] Wah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4825] Wey!
[4826] ... Looks fantastic
Ken (PS0RC) [4827] Gone off!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4828] doesn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4829] She's gone over!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4830] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4831] She's gone!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4832] Oh look at that, in front of the wave!
[4833] ... Very hard [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [4834] Wow!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4835] Choo!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4836] They sort of hold the sail on the wind, a bit like
Ken (PS0RC) [4837] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4838] a parachute jump, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4839] Yeah, that's right, yeah.
[4840] ... I think the fellers are just that wee bit more ... acrobatic aren't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4841] Well they're stronger as well I think!
[4842] Weee!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4843] Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [whistling]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4844] yes!
Ken (PS0RC) [4845] Ohh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4846] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4847] Gee whizz!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4848] Oh, oh oh!
[4849] And he's [...] as well!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4850] That's marvellous that, isn't it yes?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4851] It's amazing!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4852] Shoo!
[4853] How long does it take to get like that I wonder?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4854] It's probably Australia that.
[4855] ... Could be [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4856] Could be or could be Hawaii perhaps?
Ken (PS0RC) [4857] Hawaii yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4858] that's what the best place
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4859] they reckon don't they, Waikiki
Margaret (PS0PP) [4860] Ah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4861] Come up again, look at that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4862] Yeah, he's coming up!
[4863] He came again.
[4864] ... He wanted a wave
Ken (PS0RC) [4865] One hand!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4866] Did he say he wanted another
Ken (PS0RC) [4867] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4868] wave then?
[4869] So [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4870] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4871] Good grief!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4872] Let the wave carry him up and then ... sort of hurl himself off the top of it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4873] I know when Carl was, was doing it in a modest way and he, he'd seen this on, and he said it's impossible that ... the way they do it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4874] Mm!
Ken (PS0RC) [4875] Can't be impossible?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4876] Well, you know, he was ... I suppose he was saying it
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4877] in an admiring way?
Ken (PS0RC) [4878] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4879] He said there's no way you can get that sort of lift without
Ken (PS0RC) [4880] [...] what I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [4881] whatever they do.
Ken (PS0RC) [4882] you've gotta get the wind and you gotta get the
Margaret (PS0PP) [4883] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [4884] sur , the surf [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [4885] You've gotta have the conditions you see?
Ken (PS0RC) [4886] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4887] Gotta be in the right places you see.
Ken (PS0RC) [4888] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4889] Which I don't suppose you get here.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4890] And the right board and sails.
[4891] ... Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4892] German.
[4893] ... Alright if you're a Gerry!
[4894] ... But we're not.
Ken (PS0RC) [4895] But some of them there
Raymond (PS0PN) [4896] Oh there's nothing on that one Ken, right?
Ken (PS0RC) [4897] What have you done?
[4898] What have you pressed?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4899] Well I've pressed number seven.
[4900] ... Oh it's the
Ken (PS0RC) [4901] Press
Raymond (PS0PN) [4902] same one now!
Ken (PS0RC) [4903] Oh well pre , that's six.
[4904] ... Press seven.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4905] I don't know what's happened there, I mus
Ken (PS0RC) [4906] That's Channel Nine ... now press
Margaret (PS0PP) [4907] Give it to Ken!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4908] Which is the opera one?
Ken (PS0RC) [4909] Haven't got that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4910] You have to have a card for that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4911] Do you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4912] I wonder if you could learn the language just watching the foreign station?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4913] No!
Ken (PS0RC) [4914] You may if you've got a be , if you've got a bit of knowledge of it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4915] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4916] Oh yes!
[4917] It would help.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4918] What was that?
Ken (PS0RC) [4919] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [4920] I munched!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4921] This is the same in any language!
Ken (PS0RC) [4922] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4923] Well Ken, has it been worth it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4924] [hiccup] ... oh excuse me! ... [hiccup] ... and excuse me again!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4925] What are you gonna do, get the cards are you, or what?
Ken (PS0RC) [4926] Well I dunno yet.
[4927] ... See whats
Margaret (PS0PP) [4928] See how you get on with this.
[4929] At least you got a decent television, [...] ... [laughing] have a decent video []
Ken (PS0RC) [4930] See, see a [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [4931] you can have!
Ken (PS0RC) [4932] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4933] I should try that Ken, I should take erm ... [...] is off.
Ken (PS0RC) [4934] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4935] In fact, there's an adjustment on those isn't there that enables you to slide them forward isn't there?
Ken (PS0RC) [4936] I dunno.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4937] Mm, I think so.
[4938] ... Anything like the ones on our wardrobe.
Ken (PS0RC) [4939] I don't know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4940] Looks like Michael Caine!
[4941] ... It is Michael Caine!
Ken (PS0RC) [4942] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4943] There's not a lot of it about!
[4944] ... Oh and er, Sigourney Weaver.
Ken (PS0RC) [4945] I wonder, you know, how they ... how they try and synch them, how the voices go in?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4946] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4947] German, oh was it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4948] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4949] They're dubbed ... yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4950] Yeah, but it seems to sound like the person though doesn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [4951] Oh what, who
Margaret (PS0PP) [4952] No.
Ken (PS0RC) [4953] what, who was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4954] Not from what I see!
[4955] ... The voices are totally di , in fact the ... Clive James showed a few clips of ... dubbed films ... I mean er John Wayne, I mean he's supposed to be so [...] and he sounded so funny in Japanese!
Raymond (PS0PN) [4956] Oh yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [4957] But who was it?
[4958] Was it Gregory Peck ... or one of them walked into this studio in America, oh James Stewart was it?
[4959] ... And er ... this bloke said er ... how are you, how are you, how are you?
[4960] Are you keeping well?
[4961] ... Cos he wanted him to keep making films because he was dub , he do , always dubbed his voice!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4962] And he sa , he said er, he was very interesting!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4963] He'd have been out of a job if he'd
Ken (PS0RC) [4964] He was very, yeah, he was only interested in er ... in his what's a name?
[4965] You know, how he was getting on.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4966] In his health.
Ken (PS0RC) [4967] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4968] And I said I couldn't make it out at first.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4969] B B C one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4970] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4971] Wimpy and Tarzan
Ken (PS0RC) [4972] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4973] [...] ... erm ... well he played Tarzan, it wasn't called Tarzan it was
Ken (PS0RC) [4974] Oh er
Margaret (PS0PP) [4975] called
Ken (PS0RC) [4976] Broad
Raymond (PS0PN) [4977] Grey ... Greystoke.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4978] Greystoke.
[4979] ... It was Greystokes, that bought out that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4980] Greystokes, wasn't it la er
Ken (PS0RC) [4981] Er ... yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4982] Lord of Greystokes Manor or something like that?
[4983] ... This is the Chichido Yin
Ken (PS0RC) [4984] Oh, is that what it is?
Margaret (PS0PP) [4985] Mm.
[4986] ... I think so.
Ken (PS0RC) [4987] It was a good book this!
Margaret (PS0PP) [4988] Yes I know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [4989] They don't ... they don't give the film a very good name.
Margaret (PS0PP) [4990] Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [4991] Because er ... there's no [...] , it was a sa , based on a true
Raymond (PS0PN) [4992] Well it's about the erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [4993] his character
Ken (PS0RC) [4994] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4995] a bandit.
Ken (PS0RC) [4996] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [4997] who was on the side of the ... people.
Ken (PS0RC) [4998] A Robin Hood.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [4999] And I [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5000] There was a good Italian film made of this about twenty five years ago.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5001] Did he from the rich and give to the poor?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5002] Mm.
[5003] ... And gave some to himself.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5004] They all turned against him in the end didn't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5005] Mhm ... oh yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5006] Although one of them tried to get him to America.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5007] Mm.
[5008] ... Oh I know him, he's the
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5009] Oh Josh Ackland's in this isn't he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5010] Is he?
Ken (PS0RC) [5011] Mm ... he's the Godfather.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5012] You've seen the erm ... preview.
Ken (PS0RC) [5013] trailer.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5014] Have you got your heating on full Ken?
Ken (PS0RC) [5015] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5016] Christ it is chilly isn't it?
[5017] [laughing] Must be me [] !
[5018] ... Seemed quite hot when we came in.
Ken (PS0RC) [5019] We went, we went to Jeannette's last night and it was roasting in there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5020] She must of turns her, hers up full cos it did go cold didn't it ... I mean, outside?
Ken (PS0RC) [5021] Ooh it was, it was
Margaret (PS0PP) [5022] Because we had sleet ... didn't we ... last night?
[5023] ... He reminds me of
Raymond (PS0PN) [5024] Jose Perera.
Ken (PS0RC) [5025] Oh yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5026] No, well yes, I suppose.
[5027] ... No, I was thinking of erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [5028] Size of this bloke!
[5029] Good grief!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5030] forgotten his name.
Ken (PS0RC) [5031] Did you see what's his name tonight?
[5032] ... Didn't have my tea till ... while he was on ... er ... what's his name?
[5033] ... Bob calls him the murderer!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5034] With a beard
Raymond (PS0PN) [5035] Not erm
Ken (PS0RC) [5036] what's his name?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5037] Cla erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [5038] What in, Ken?
Ken (PS0RC) [5039] He does this show tha from Crinkly Bottom doesn't he?
[5040] He has the chi , the kids all asking him questions ... about their parents.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5041] No, I don't know him. ... [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5042] Yo you have seen him actually, it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [5043] Oh er Noel
Ken (PS0RC) [5044] Noel Edmonds.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5045] Oh him, ah yeah!
Ken (PS0RC) [5046] He, well he go , he goes into people's houses doesn't he, with this, you know, this hidden camera ... well you should of seen the size of this bloke!
[5047] ... He was six one ... honestly ... he was [...] to his mates, a right con and all this ... [...] ... it was hanging over me [...] ... and he's a lorry driver.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5048] He hadn't got any Yorkie bars by the sound of it!
Ken (PS0RC) [5049] Yeah. [tv on]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5050] That looks like Terence Stamp ... photograph [...] !
Ken (PS0RC) [5051] Terence
Margaret (PS0PP) [5052] No he's watching through a telescope isn't he?
Ken (PS0RC) [5053] Terence what's his name?
[5054] Stamp.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5055] Stamp.
Ken (PS0RC) [5056] Stamp. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5057] You should tape this, I had to tape this, you said when [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5058] Oh no I read about that I've
Ken (PS0RC) [5059] I've forgotten a lot of it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5060] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5061] They will have shotguns and ser
Margaret (PS0PP) [5062] Yeah, it does look like Jose Perera.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5063] What breed is he?
[5064] And he's not English is he?
Ken (PS0RC) [5065] Who?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5066] This actor.
Ken (PS0RC) [5067] I've got no idea!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5068] Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [5069] Italian.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5070] Juliano!
Ken (PS0RC) [5071] [...] or American.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5072] That was him.
Ken (PS0RC) [5073] He's American.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5074] Erm [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [5075] That's pretty near to Italian!
Raymond (PS0PN) [cough]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5076] The only thing [...] interview is being on first.
Ken (PS0RC) [5077] [...] the first, he must rate the [...] his second wife did it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5078] Yes
Ken (PS0RC) [5079] You know but she can't
Margaret (PS0PP) [5080] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [5081] kill herself because er, they can't have children and that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5082] That's right.
Ken (PS0RC) [5083] But er
Margaret (PS0PP) [5084] I don't know what the situation is today, I haven't seen
Ken (PS0RC) [5085] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5086] her for a ... few years.
[5087] ... Erm
Ken (PS0RC) [5088] Is your [...] a sorry state?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5089] Mhm.
[5090] ... Well Lucy, you're well relaxed there!
Ken (PS0RC) [5091] Yeah, she's had a busy day!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5092] I'm trying to keep our dogs out of the lounge cos they've been on the settee that many times
Raymond (PS0PN) [5093] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5094] and I've ... we've taken the ... the old settee down to Carrie's ... and moved the two seater and the armchair down ... this end ... and they flew in tonight straight up on the sofa, I said to [...] ... it's gonna be tough for a week or so but they've gotta get used to staying on the floor, I'm not having them on the furniture all the time cos they just absolutely ruin it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5095] Especially when it's like this, now they go outside and it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [5096] And they come in, I mean he skids in the hall at night I mean it's my fault I threw the rubber ring towards the kitchen ... down the hall ... he sort of skidded before he got there and there was a, and he must of had mud er, you know like ... like he had
Ken (PS0RC) [5097] oh that's
Margaret (PS0PP) [5098] dirt in between his toes
Ken (PS0RC) [5099] there's there's and we just, what he must of had ... and he skidded and there was a blooming long track of mud down the carpet you know!
[5100] ... So
Ken (PS0RC) [5101] Well you just, you just don't think ... you know, I mean, about ... every time you sprinkle [...] dog wipe
Raymond (PS0PN) [5102] Well this is the trouble
Ken (PS0RC) [5103] wiping
Raymond (PS0PN) [5104] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5105] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5106] Or you forget that it's wet, or whatever!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5107] Yeah.
[5108] ... Like
Margaret (PS0PP) [5109] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5110] I say, this time of the year, it's rotten!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5111] That's the thing that even when it's dries out it still clings to the
Ken (PS0RC) [5112] Well it does, yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5113] skin ... and
Ken (PS0RC) [5114] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5115] it just comes off as dust ... on
Ken (PS0RC) [5116] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5117] on the furniture you know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5118] Mm.
[5119] ... I mean they should be in the ruddy kitchen I suppose, but then you get to the stage where it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [5120] Well they should be outside
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5121] in a kennel!
Ken (PS0RC) [5122] That's what I always say!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5123] Is there any good having a ruddy dog, you know, I mean, why do you have one
Margaret (PS0PP) [5124] Well we
Raymond (PS0PN) [5125] to start with?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5126] we like pets
Raymond (PS0PN) [5127] You know, I mean it's
Ken (PS0RC) [5128] Well they're
Margaret (PS0PP) [5129] they're fairly close
Ken (PS0RC) [5130] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5131] to hand but erm
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5132] you know, I don't wanna go to bed with them!
Ken (PS0RC) [5133] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5134] You know, there is a limit!
Ken (PS0RC) [5135] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5136] That, you've gotta say well
Ken (PS0RC) [5137] Yeah well it's a
Margaret (PS0PP) [5138] you can do this but you can't do that ... and and really ... they're, they're like children in a way, they will sort of try it on as much as they can get away with it!
Ken (PS0RC) [5139] Well of course!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5140] So
Raymond (PS0PN) [5141] Ooh there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5142] Oh what they're doing?
[5143] ... That's why I said to you don't feed them titbits at the table because it's so easy to
Ken (PS0RC) [5144] It
Margaret (PS0PP) [5145] get them
Ken (PS0RC) [5146] well it is, is!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5147] and they sit there and he's gorping at you while you're eating you know!
Ken (PS0RC) [5148] And they jus , just just just, yeah I think it's er, it's habit that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5149] Well Luc ... Lucy, Lucy,Luc !
[5150] You're not supposed to be on here!
[5151] We're just talking about that aren't we?
[5152] ... [laugh] ... She's a funny dog!
[5153] ... Aren't you ... ay?
[5154] ... You're a funny old sausage!
[5155] ... Yes you are!
[5156] ... [laugh] ... She's getting on a bit now!
[5157] How old's Lucy now, Ken?
[5158] ... [shouting] Ken [] !
[5159] ... He's gone out in the garden now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5160] Can't hear.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5161] [...] either that or banging his head on the wall!
[5162] ... Mm ... well this is certainly a nice television!
[5163] ... As telly's go!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5164] Mm mm.
[5165] ... [sniff] ... Seem to be a lot of German ... stations on it, aren't there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5166] Well ... ha, perhaps because of the size of the country then there maybe more stations ... than ... in France, or maybe it's just the way the satellite ... is pointing to pick up ... you know, you just happen to pick up more German stations, I don't know!
[5167] ... Well there seem to be quite a few German ... er, German!
[5168] [laugh] ... Quite a few American ... erm ... documentaries, almost aren't they?
[5169] Those [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [sniff]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5170] [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [5171] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5172] Peace programmes and that, I don't know whether they're just being broadcast ... I mean you wo ... you know, Ken, you know those American programmes that were on?
Ken (PS0RC) [5173] Just a minute!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5174] I'm just wondering whether they were
Ken (PS0RC) [5175] Ya.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5176] were they being transmit , they weren't being picked up from the U S A were they?
Ken (PS0RC) [5177] I don't know to
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5178] be honest.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5179] Unless they're being, unless they transmit them from one satellite to another.
Ken (PS0RC) [5180] [...] , but whether they are or whether they're
Margaret (PS0PP) [5181] And then down to us.
Ken (PS0RC) [5182] re pre-recorded or what, I don't know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5183] Oh yes.
[5184] ... I just wondered
Ken (PS0RC) [5185] But the
Margaret (PS0PP) [5186] whether the Germans would be, I mean if it's coming from a German ... T V station but do they ... broadcast American ... you know, English speaking programmes there in Germany
Raymond (PS0PN) [5187] Must do.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5188] for us to pick them up here I mean.
Raymond (PS0PN) [sniff]
Ken (PS0RC) [5189] Well, I I've er ... I don't know how they do it really.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5190] Because they were all in English, well ... American [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [5191] Yeah.
[5192] ... I do , I don't know to be honest.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5193] No.
Ken (PS0RC) [5194] You just er, you just take it for granted don't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5195] You got a book then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5196] Well I mean a film
Margaret (PS0PP) [5197] just read up on it and let us know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5198] it showed you Michael Caine, well that was all dubbed wasn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5199] Oh well no, those are films aren't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5200] Ha, why are you wagging this?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5201] You mean the documentaries?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5202] You scallywag!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5203] Er, oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [5204] The documentaries and that, I mean er
Raymond (PS0PN) [5205] Er oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [5206] I suppose they ... th , well they must what's his name?
[5207] Be, if they dubbed them they must be ... pre-recorded.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5208] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [5209] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5210] but they, I mean, oh ... they weren't dubbed were they?
[5211] I mean, so they couldn't have been for er er Germany.
Ken (PS0RC) [5212] No , I mean the, no they can't be
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5213] for the German audience, they must be for the British.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5214] Yes ... you know.
Ken (PS0RC) [5215] Al , although some of them ... they do them in German
Margaret (PS0PP) [5216] and
Ken (PS0RC) [5217] er ... well there's one there that's a continual ... er ... it is American, well it's an American style programme but I mean they advertise ... all kinds of things from all
Margaret (PS0PP) [5218] Mind you, bearing in mind they've still got
Ken (PS0RC) [5219] but they give the prices at the end.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5220] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5221] They give the prices in all the different countries see?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5222] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5223] I mean the different
Margaret (PS0PP) [5224] Different currencies.
Ken (PS0RC) [5225] currencies.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5226] Er ... I was gonna say
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5227] they've still got ... American bases there haven't they?
[5228] I know they've been pulling a lot out
Ken (PS0RC) [5229] Ooh yeah, ooh yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5230] but there are still American bases [...] .
Ken (PS0RC) [5231] Well they've still got American bases there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5232] So maybe er ... maybe they do transmit there.
[5233] ... For
Ken (PS0RC) [5234] Well they could do.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5235] the English speaking
Ken (PS0RC) [5236] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5237] You know?
Ken (PS0RC) [5238] Well I mean it would [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5239] Troops, forces that are there.
Ken (PS0RC) [5240] With modern technology it wouldn't be any problem would it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5241] We have the the technology!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5242] The technology!
Ken (PS0RC) [5243] They're bound to be [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [5244] Build you up ... and we can knock you down! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5245] Kick your arse!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5246] [laugh] ... What did Ken [...] say ... they think all they gotta do is kick arses!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5247] Who the

24 (Tape 030003)

Margaret (PS0PP) [5248] That one was Tenerife was it?
[5249] ... Cos it said like ... like holiday maker so they get up there for a rest!
[5250] ... And he sent a photograph of you know, people in the boat and ... eating these things, you know?
[5251] ... I said I must watch that on Monday night, I like the wildlife programmes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5252] Yeah, some of them are good!
[5253] ... Trouble is, it's always the disappearing ones isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5254] Yes, usually it's ... you're sort of bombarded from all sides by
Raymond (PS0PN) [5255] The doomed!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5256] the seemingless endless problems that yo ... unable to ... to do very much about!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5257] That was a cracker that Dimbleby did!
[5258] ... Done it with Susie [...] .
[5259] ... The part where they went to the erm ... the ... what do they call it now?
[5260] The flooded forest
Margaret (PS0PP) [5261] Oh the erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [5262] flooded for six months of the year wasn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5263] The rain for , er no, it wasn't the rain forest, but yes.
[5264] ... The flooded rain forest or something was it?
[5265] ... I think it was.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5266] Well I don't think it was a rain forest!
[5267] Was this the river that overflowed in this particular [...] ... created this ... this lu
Margaret (PS0PP) [5268] For six months of the year it was under water!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5269] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5270] The trees and a a all of those [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5271] All these creatures came out of the mud and
Margaret (PS0PP) [5272] Yes, yeah, I, well I taped it didn't I?
[5273] Got it on tape then .
Raymond (PS0PN) [5274] Did you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5275] Mm.
[5276] ... Flooded rain forest, I'm sure that's what it was called.
[5277] ... And then, the other six months of the year when the water ... recedes ... a different sort of species comes and inhabits this area and then
Raymond (PS0PN) [5278] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5279] again, the cycle
Raymond (PS0PN) [5280] Amazing!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5281] it goes on again.
[5282] ... Yeah.
[5283] ... But didn't they have ... didn't they say the ... fresh water's [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5284] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5285] Allsorts!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5286] It isn't gonna be very deep!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5287] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5288] But obviously deep enough for er
Raymond (PS0PN) [5289] Yeah when if ... the rains came and ... it started to er ... pour away, my God it was ... tumultuous!
[5290] ... Going down to the valleys.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5291] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5292] Mm.
[5293] ... I think it must have been the
Margaret (PS0PP) [5294] What's that programme that was on the other day about the erm ... ohhh!
[5295] ... Where was it?
[5296] No Ga , was it Ghana?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5297] About the trees?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5298] About the, yes, this
Raymond (PS0PN) [5299] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5300] exposee about the
Raymond (PS0PN) [5301] Ghana.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5302] er ... well that was corruption from the government!
[5303] Well I suppose most corruption starts at the top doesn't it?
[5304] ... It has to for it to be ... festering at the bottom!
[5305] ... But erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [5306] Good grief man!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5307] Good Lord Ken!
[5308] ... You've gone to town tonight seeing all this!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5309] Ooh hell!
Ken (PS0RC) [5310] No not really
Margaret (PS0PP) [5311] Er
Ken (PS0RC) [5312] just a bit of cheese ... and a bit of ... pate.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5313] You know it seems it awful really that two of those places were ... [...] aren't they? ... [...] all these, all the forest
Raymond (PS0PN) [5314] Oh God!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5315] fern and
Raymond (PS0PN) [5316] Thanks er
Margaret (PS0PP) [5317] I mean if somebody did grow a tree ... I mean, it must be harder in that kind of area but ... but wi ... with the right will for people ... to plant a tree and grow it ... it's just as easy
Raymond (PS0PN) [5318] Ahhh.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5319] as chopping it down!
[5320] ... Well, you know, I mean with
Raymond (PS0PN) [5321] Up.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5322] correct management they should be able to ... profit from the forests ... you know a as well replenish them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5323] And so unfortunately, it's the short term that's all they think about!
Ken (PS0RC) [5324] Ah, [...] it's not.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5325] At the end of the day it's just greed and profit to gain
Ken (PS0RC) [5326] If you want a decent tree to grow
Margaret (PS0PP) [5327] and sod tomorrow!
Ken (PS0RC) [5328] If you want decent trees it takes a long time to grow them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5329] Well the hardwoods, yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5330] Yeah,
Raymond (PS0PN) [5331] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5332] I mean they don't grow overnight do
Ken (PS0RC) [5333] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5334] But even so, I mean ... even that can be managed.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5335] Course it can.
[5336] ... At the moment they just
Margaret (PS0PP) [5337] What is this Ken?
Ken (PS0RC) [5338] That's ... German smoked.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5339] You don't have to light it! [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5340] It's rather nice that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5341] Is it?
[5342] ... We've tried this before when
Ken (PS0RC) [5343] Didn't you try it at ... ah ah, try it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5344] I can't remember now.
[5345] ... No, I don't think so.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5346] I don't think we had any cheese did we?
[5347] ... Can't remember that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5348] Ee ... ah ... trouble is you can't see where your cut is ... when you slice it like that it, oh here we go!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5349] Gosh they're going again with [...] ... Paul and Cathy.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5350] Paul and Cathy are going.
Ken (PS0RC) [5351] Are they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5352] Yep.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5353] Driving again and
Ken (PS0RC) [5354] Oh it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [5355] When are they goi , when?
[5356] ... When have they booked for?
[5357] ... Er
Ken (PS0RC) [5358] [whispering] Ooh I think I'll have a bit of that [] . ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5359] May was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5360] Well, I was going to say is it before Ann has the baby?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5361] It's when Car , yes, no ah
Margaret (PS0PP) [5362] Is it going to be, it's gonna be about
Raymond (PS0PN) [5363] Er ... I'm not sure.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5364] Well the baby's ... due after May so if they're going in May
Raymond (PS0PN) [5365] Oh well it'll be a , that's
Margaret (PS0PP) [5366] It's before
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5367] Oh is that pate?
Ken (PS0RC) [5368] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5369] Oh that's okay.
[5370] ... Many thanks.
Ken (PS0RC) [5371] You can take that with you ... that er, if you don't ... use it up.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5372] You don't like the pate?
Ken (PS0RC) [5373] It's no good to me!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5374] Well Ray likes it.
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5375] Oh these are nice!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5376] I was born to a
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5377] good life to
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5378] Born to a good life.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5379] [laugh] ... Well what are you doing
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5380] here then?
Ken (PS0RC) [5381] Oh yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5382] Well it hasn't happened yet but still!
Ken (PS0RC) [5383] Oh!
[5384] ... So was I, I was convinced!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5385] Oh he's even drooled over me look!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5386] I wish!
Ken (PS0RC) [5387] And I was always convinced that I would
Raymond (PS0PN) [5388] Better things.
Ken (PS0RC) [5389] I was, I was left on ... on the doorstep [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5390] The wrong handbag Ken, you was didn't you?
Ken (PS0RC) [5391] For the rich.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5392] I read that story Ken. [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5393] yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5394] What happened?
Ken (PS0RC) [5395] They kept saying that
Raymond (PS0PN) [5396] We what?
Ken (PS0RC) [5397] they never came back for me.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5398] Saying well here here's an ugly little bugger let's do a swop!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5399] And they left me instead!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5400] They took the ugly one [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5401] So, oh well!
Ken (PS0RC) [5402] What's that Cheshire one?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5403] I haven't tried that.
Ken (PS0RC) [5404] Perhaps er ... I got that
Raymond (PS0PN) [5405] Crumbly, is it?
Ken (PS0RC) [5406] I got it from, I don't know, I got it from Holston's and I haven't had any from there before.
[5407] ... I went into that Roberses the delicatessen part
Margaret (PS0PP) [5408] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5409] and er ... they were queuing up there so I couldn't be bothered ... standing in the queue, so I didn't.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5410] Didn't get it from there?
Ken (PS0RC) [5411] I didn't stay there for that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5412] Mm, that's distinctive isn't it ... the smoked one!
Ken (PS0RC) [5413] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5414] Very nice!
Ken (PS0RC) [5415] I haven't had ... this ... particular one before but we used to get ... a little used to be able to get it in little ... about
Raymond (PS0PN) [5416] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5417] tha , that big ... and er ... no, I expect the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5418] It's on ... [cough] ... don't, they reckon they can make Cheshire anywhere now can't they?
[5419] ... No, it's not what it used to be.
Ken (PS0RC) [5420] There must be somebody who can get it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5421] Get what?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5422] Cheshire cheese is not ... necessarily ... indigenous to Cheshire now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5423] Oh ... what,wha
Raymond (PS0PN) [5424] They make it in lots of places.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5425] you mean it's been made in Devon
Ken (PS0RC) [5426] No [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5427] and called Cheshire cheese?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5428] Well I don't know about Devon, I'm not sure.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5429] No, I I do , I think it's erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [5430] Only made in Cheshire?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5431] I would have thought so.
[5432] ... You mean they're using the recipe somewhere else?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5433] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5434] Oh.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5435] Making and you
Margaret (PS0PP) [5436] I don't think so.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5437] over the over the road into
Ken (PS0RC) [5438] Whatever!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5439] whatever.
Ken (PS0RC) [5440] In North Wales.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5441] I don't know, I would have thought that ... to call it Cheshire cheeses ... it must be
Raymond (PS0PN) [5442] Ain't got any ruddy North Wales cheese or Clwyd, so what [...] ?
Ken (PS0RC) [5443] Perhaps in the
Margaret (PS0PP) [5444] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5445] used,ya , you used to be able to get it and it would crumble ... it was rea , you know real
Raymond (PS0PN) [5446] Oh yeah that was distinctive part of it.
Ken (PS0RC) [5447] That cor ... It was er
Margaret (PS0PP) [5448] Not like that now.
Ken (PS0RC) [5449] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5450] I always remember going to, somewhere with Ken ... this girl gave us a lump of cheese, it must of been Cheshire.
Ken (PS0RC) [5451] Ooh I ... I loved that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5452] They got this bloody knife ... and cut half the bloody cheese, I thought ... I mean, I'm not a polite person when it comes to food am I?
[5453] ... Must of had about two ounces on the bloody plate!
Ken (PS0RC) [5454] Haven't got the thing on now have you, while you ... feeding yourself
Raymond (PS0PN) [5455] No.
Ken (PS0RC) [5456] up?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5457] [laugh] Munching [] !
[5458] ... He's one of the little munchkins!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5459] And then, when he was eating the
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5460] putting the marmalade on his toast in the hotel ... the knife
Ken (PS0RC) [5461] And licked the knife!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5462] Ooh, oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5463] [laugh] ... You scallywag!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5464] I mean you do that sort of thing at home don't you, but
Margaret (PS0PP) [5465] You scallywag!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5466] [laughing] Oh Christ [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [5467] Yeah!
[5468] ... Yes you are!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5469] [laugh] ... It's just how he was brought up I suppose an
Ken (PS0RC) [5470] I remember reading this book ... it was ... partly, it was about the German Navy
Margaret (PS0PP) [5471] Mm?
Ken (PS0RC) [5472] and er ... sh , you know ... the test before they could become officers ... they set captain ... set [...] the table, you see the ... and ... they have this ... food that they know how, how to use the cutlery, this was one of the tests of being an officer.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5473] Oh yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5474] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5475] You know, to er ... they didn't know how to use the cutlery, and, they were, they we , yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [5476] Which piece to use for which course.
Ken (PS0RC) [5477] they weren't, they weren't gentlemen so they couldn't be er ... they couldn't be officers.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5478] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5479] Oh there's a lot of that well done wasn't there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5480] It's called the class structure.
Ken (PS0RC) [5481] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5482] Or system.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5483] Well, ironically his creed was supposed to be without that wasn't it ... Hitler?
[5484] ... You know, this supreme race but all ... more or less equal.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5485] Well no, that wasn't the case!
[5486] ... He wanted to create ... a supreme race didn't he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5487] No, but the er ... the Germans ... they were the supreme body weren't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5488] [...] he's he's [...] ... and er ... he wanted to create a super race.
Ken (PS0RC) [5489] But the army was run on the old style wasn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5490] Of course.
Ken (PS0RC) [5491] You know, they were the ... they were the er ... the masters of the army.
[5492] ... Oh well, this was the main course Ray!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5493] And then of course the Air Force, they'd be one up again I suppose.
Ken (PS0RC) [5494] Ah well ... then maybe
Margaret (PS0PP) [5495] You mean the Luftwaffe?
Ken (PS0RC) [5496] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5497] Mm mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5498] The [...] ... [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [5499] Well this is
Margaret (PS0PP) [5500] Luftwaffe.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5501] Betty.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5502] Mm.
[5503] ... Unfortunately there seems to be a resurgence of ... of this now doesn't there ... in Europe?
Ken (PS0RC) [5504] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5505] This right wing element which is
Raymond (PS0PN) [5506] Terrible!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5507] It's frightening really because you think well ... you know, I mean ... you said the years well that couldn't happen
Ken (PS0RC) [5508] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5509] again but ... but how long does it take before it does happen again?
[5510] I mean, do the other ... do these things happen in cycles and tha ... you know, is it possible that it'll happen again on a greater scale?
[5511] ... A grand
Ken (PS0RC) [5512] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5513] scale, if you like?
Ken (PS0RC) [5514] it er ... I mean, it's ... having grounds now because of the recession!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5515] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [5516] That is, that
Margaret (PS0PP) [5517] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [5518] is what brought it about er in
Margaret (PS0PP) [5519] Setting the stage for
Ken (PS0RC) [5520] in one way, in in
Margaret (PS0PP) [5521] Although it hasn't ... it hasn't come to that in Germany, I mean we'll probably be the poor man of Europe at the moment aren't we?
[5522] ... In this country?
Ken (PS0RC) [5523] Ah but, I mean it's biting in Germany now because they've got all East Germans!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5524] That's ... yes, yes, that's true.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5525] Biting before that weren't it?
[5526] Where
Margaret (PS0PP) [5527] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [5528] they've had to close down the spi , [...] and that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5529] and of course, when, when they ... when
Raymond (PS0PN) [5530] This of course is exacerbated.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5531] but ... the going gets tough it's ... it's easy to blame minority groups and this is what happened before wasn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5532] Like on the ruddy ... that's all they're doing now, bringing all these Turks and God knows what!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5533] Ha!
[5534] ... I mean, even in France, and I mean, in fact, in fact
Raymond (PS0PN) [5535] East Germany, poor devils they
Margaret (PS0PP) [5536] in France it's more ... it's worse ... in in ... some respects because er ... it seems to be more powerful the erm ... the rate of ... you know, the feeling of [...] .
[5537] ... I mean what can you, what can we do?
[5538] ... If, it's happening, I mean ... what was the Soviet Union I mean it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [5539] Well I said to Margaret, I wonder
Margaret (PS0PP) [5540] [...] news on it ... it's death and destruction there isn't it?
[5541] ... All these minority
Raymond (PS0PN) [5542] I wonder
Margaret (PS0PP) [5543] groups.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5544] with the Western Groups ... after the euphoria of saying oh there, well we've cracked it now!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5545] We've destroyed communism.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5546] Are they now regretting it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5547] And, I don't
Raymond (PS0PN) [5548] To some degree.
Ken (PS0RC) [5549] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5550] No, no I think they've
Raymond (PS0PN) [5551] And, and the fact that they don't know what's gonna happen, how to contain all this
Margaret (PS0PP) [5552] Well I think in some respects
Raymond (PS0PN) [5553] stress.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5554] they, they wanted the downfall of communism
Ken (PS0RC) [5555] Oh they did want it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5556] but ... nevertheless it's better the devil you know!
Ken (PS0RC) [5557] But, having said that ... you know, that ... I should imagine that the military ... are ... regretting it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5558] Well I mean, the military will definitely
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5559] regretting it, in in ... [...] the west
Raymond (PS0PN) [5560] Didn't actually want it to go this far.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5561] because it means ... a reduction in forces in in ... all these
Ken (PS0RC) [5562] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5563] countries ... erm, and as you say, I mean ha ... you know, whether they're American generals or or ... the Soviet ... generals, whatever ... er they're all, they're all feeling the pinch now because er
Raymond (PS0PN) [5564] Oh I didn't mean that, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [5565] At the same time it, I mean the countries wo , have been crippled by the ... the burden of er ... defence if you like ... and we'll call it defence.
Ken (PS0RC) [5566] And they have!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5567] Erm, but in fact it's probably for some of the state that we're in now!
[5568] ... But er
Ken (PS0RC) [5569] I would I wouldn't sa , I wouldn't of said
Margaret (PS0PP) [5570] There's a price to pay for everything.
Ken (PS0RC) [5571] that you see ... they have created the jobs!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5572] Yes ... yeah ... but I don't know, it seems crazy to me when they've
Raymond (PS0PN) [5573] Well that's false economy that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5574] There's such ... you know ... sort of appalling need
Ken (PS0RC) [5575] Yes, but that was the get,
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5576] that was your get out!
[5577] ... Or the ... or the er ... boost in the, in the economy ... you know but erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [5578] Yeah, but I don't think
Ken (PS0RC) [5579] but I mean they were mo ... they were making [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5580] Might work in our economy, but not in theirs I don't think!
[5581] Well it hasn't!
[5582] ... But instead
Ken (PS0RC) [5583] Oh no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5584] of getting on with the ... five years plans they've put too much effort into producing ... war machines!
Ken (PS0RC) [5585] Well and this is it ... I mean, where we could afford it they couldn't!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5586] Well can we?
[5587] ... Look at America!
Ken (PS0RC) [5588] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [5589] They've got greater means, I know
Ken (PS0RC) [5590] No, they, they could of they could of ... afforded better than the
Raymond (PS0PN) [5591] Oh yeah!
Ken (PS0RC) [5592] you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5593] Yeah.
[5594] ... Only just.
[5595] ... So, and unfortunately erm ... well
Ken (PS0RC) [5596] I mean they, they were exploiting ... or they had ... they had the potential exploit more countries ... than Russia did.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5597] Oh course!
Ken (PS0RC) [5598] That is er
Raymond (PS0PN) [5599] Oh yeah, they colonised all these places but ... it makes you wonder, you know, you see all this unemployment ... and of course this John Major's in his ... answer now is ooh well it's the same everywhe , it's not, not here, it's everywhere!
[5600] ... They don't say why?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5601] Well it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5602] Yeah, but why?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5603] But
Ken (PS0RC) [5604] Oh but I mean ... that is not
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5605] the concern, and that is not the question,i the question is what are you going to do about it in our country?
[5606] ... What are
Raymond (PS0PN) [5607] Exactly!
Ken (PS0RC) [5608] you
Margaret (PS0PP) [5609] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5610] Exactly!
[5611] ... But I mean the [...] have an excuse don't they?
Ken (PS0RC) [5612] Well that's ... that's it ... you know that er ... it's an excuse.
[5613] ... I mean, it's a convenient excuse, that is
Raymond (PS0PN) [5614] Course it is!
Ken (PS0RC) [5615] that [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [5616] I mean ... I was reading in the paper the other day ... it was on about recycling
Ken (PS0RC) [5617] Yes, just a [...] please.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5618] And the different counties
Raymond (PS0PN) [5619] Say stop!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5620] and the way they've approached it and some
Raymond (PS0PN) [5621] Yep.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5622] of the more progressive ones, you know they've er ... addressed the problem of ... rubbish and ... recycling wo erm ... one spokesperson for ... somewhere like Milton Keynes, I think it was ... said there's ... you know, there's no money to made out of ri , recycling
Ken (PS0RC) [5623] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5624] and yet he said
Ken (PS0RC) [5625] Not at the moment.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5626] that they would save ... erm ... on the erm actual tipping of rubbish
Ken (PS0RC) [5627] How isn't there any money
Margaret (PS0PP) [5628] because
Ken (PS0RC) [5629] to be made out of recycling
Margaret (PS0PP) [5630] Well ... well this is what
Raymond (PS0PN) [5631] Well at the moment it's so dear
Margaret (PS0PP) [5632] well what he meant was
Raymond (PS0PN) [5633] to
Margaret (PS0PP) [5634] th , I mean he said they [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5635] process it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5636] we are not
Ken (PS0RC) [5637] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5638] we are not dealing with anything that we cannot
Raymond (PS0PN) [5639] In the short term.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5640] sell.
[5641] ... In
Raymond (PS0PN) [5642] Ah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5643] other words they were selling glass, and they were selling ... metal ... back to ... whatever ... and manufacturers ... to re-use ... but ... in terms of collecting and the cost of collecting it all and and
Raymond (PS0PN) [5644] That's expensive!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5645] handling all this it's, yeah.
[5646] ... The cost that they were ... having to bear were greater than what they were actually getting back on the sale of this stuff.
[5647] But, at the same time ... the ... normal sort of refuse if you like, disposable ... was being reduced ... because
Raymond (PS0PN) [5648] That's right!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5649] these other items weren't in the normal refuse collection and therefore they were going to sort of reduce them from a weekly collection to a
Ken (PS0RC) [5650] Well that's if
Margaret (PS0PP) [5651] fortnightly collection, so they would be saving in that [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5652] Well that ... er
Raymond (PS0PN) [5653] But not saving to these
Ken (PS0RC) [5654] that's if
Raymond (PS0PN) [5655] particular firms
Ken (PS0RC) [5656] that
Raymond (PS0PN) [5657] that they want.
Ken (PS0RC) [5658] that's if
Margaret (PS0PP) [5659] No.
[5660] ... Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5661] That is ... their own fault ... because according to, there was a programme on there and it was saying ... they, they must be selling it to these firms that recy , that use it
Margaret (PS0PP) [5662] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5663] they must be selling it
Margaret (PS0PP) [5664] Well they will do.
Ken (PS0RC) [5665] them very cheap ... because it was sa , this programme was on about recycling
Margaret (PS0PP) [5666] No thanks.
Ken (PS0RC) [5667] and it said ... about tin cans and aluminium and that ... and it was costing them less ... excuse me ... to use recycled ... you know er ... used aluminium
Margaret (PS0PP) [5668] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5669] and used steel cans and that ... it was costing them ... less to use that ... than it was to use
Margaret (PS0PP) [5670] Brand new stuff.
Ken (PS0RC) [5671] yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5672] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5673] So, I mean ... to me, I don't know whether I'm right, but ... that my first thought is that they must be buying it very
Margaret (PS0PP) [5674] It's gotta be profitable
Ken (PS0RC) [5675] they must be buying it very cheap then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5676] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5677] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5678] So, so the people that are not making any money out of it by doing it ... are selling it to them very cheap ... so it is their own fault!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5679] I think initially er [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5680] It's only it's been cheaper to
Margaret (PS0PP) [5681] [...] now has got a cost more ... in the initial
Ken (PS0RC) [5682] Well it does
Margaret (PS0PP) [5683] stages ... until it's sort of, set up, until ... everyone is sort of you know ... geared into doing this ... kind of ... you know, like all the glass goes here, all the metal goes here, all the [...] goes there
Raymond (PS0PN) [5684] Well yes, because they're not
Margaret (PS0PP) [5685] and all the companies that are responsible for ... for re-using it ... and all the ... distribution network is set up for collecting an an ... sending it from here to there ... you know, once that network is going then surely
Raymond (PS0PN) [5686] Oh yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5687] it's gotta be ... useful because ... instead of going ... you know ... from one sort at one end and going out the other and never being ... ever seen again ... it's going
Raymond (PS0PN) [5688] That's right!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5689] in a circle and, and ... surely that's gotta be cheaper once a network is set up?
[5690] ... And it's a, it's an ongoing thing [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5691] Yeah!
Ken (PS0RC) [5692] You know I mean, oh oh di ... you know I mean ... it's to theorise, I suppose but I mean all it takes really is to have ... three bins.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5693] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5694] You have your paper ... you have your ... bottles
Margaret (PS0PP) [...] [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5695] you know alright ... initially as you say ... it take, it costs ... but
Margaret (PS0PP) [5696] To set it up
Ken (PS0RC) [5697] it does , to set it up,yo you have ... you have, you'll have to have three, three what's his names?
[5698] Three, three bin men ... to come and collect it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5699] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5700] Or no, you have to have three containers.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5701] But they do it in Canada!
Ken (PS0RC) [5702] Well this is what I'm saying!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5703] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5704] But I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [5705] Even even got one
Ken (PS0RC) [5706] you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [5707] for plastic!
Ken (PS0RC) [5708] but, but there ... well yo , you could have four, you could have as many as you like
Raymond (PS0PN) [5709] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5710] but I mean ... surely, in the long term
Raymond (PS0PN) [5711] Course!
Ken (PS0RC) [5712] but that co
Margaret (PS0PP) [5713] [...] idea he doesn't drink beer, so you can have his for
Ken (PS0RC) [5714] Well no, [...] but I mean like
Raymond (PS0PN) [5715] But that's the key word is the long term Ken!
Ken (PS0RC) [5716] like you sell, you sell that back ... to them ... that that pays ... the man's wages that is doing it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5717] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5718] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5719] But it's the short term isn't it, with them?
[5720] ... They just thinking well we haven't got the machinery to cope with this!
[5721] ... It's easier for us
Margaret (PS0PP) [5722] No the
Raymond (PS0PN) [5723] to buy the new raw material and process it
Margaret (PS0PP) [5724] Yeah I said
Raymond (PS0PN) [5725] and it ... ah
Ken (PS0RC) [5726] Ah but [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5727] but yeah, I know but the
Ken (PS0RC) [5728] well this is the
Raymond (PS0PN) [5729] This is the way the government's gotta act now!
Ken (PS0RC) [5730] Ah well, well this is it
Margaret (PS0PP) [5731] Well this is it it, it has to be done!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5732] They won't!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5733] Generated the
Ken (PS0RC) [5734] This is the trouble
Raymond (PS0PN) [5735] It's a joke!
Ken (PS0RC) [5736] this is the trouble with this country ... because it's has has ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5737] I mean look at Germany!
Ken (PS0RC) [5738] Yeah, but I mean they will make progress, I mean this colony
Margaret (PS0PP) [5739] And [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5740] is ... would never
Raymond (PS0PN) [5741] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5742] advance!
[5743] ... I mean that's why we lost our moto ... er ... motorcycle industry
Raymond (PS0PN) [5744] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5745] it's why we've lost most of our industry ... because they won't, they won't invest in new machinery or mo , new methods!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5746] Modernisation.
Ken (PS0RC) [5747] I mean they've
Raymond (PS0PN) [5748] Just won't look ahead!
Ken (PS0RC) [5749] You see it's the same as they said on there ... we've had all these inventions
Margaret (PS0PP) [5750] and they get [...] by our country.
Ken (PS0RC) [5751] and they get, they get [...] in this country ... and then they go and exploit them in another country!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5752] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5753] So where's the
Raymond (PS0PN) [5754] Computer's the ... finest example of that ... produced
Margaret (PS0PP) [5755] But
Raymond (PS0PN) [5756] in Manchester!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5757] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5758] This government says ooh we can't afford that, no, it's a ... it's a gimmick!
[5759] ... The Yank says we will!
[5760] ... Bingo!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5761] And look, this used to be
Raymond (PS0PN) [5762] We could of held them to ransom!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5763] one of the best education systems in the world!
[5764] ... And I mean [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5765] I know, it isn't now!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5766] won't be here now ... well you could ... sliding right
Ken (PS0RC) [5767] I know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5768] down the scale!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5769] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5770] We're terrible!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5771] We're way behind
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5772] Germany, France
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5773] [...] ... you can only cut back
Raymond (PS0PN) [5774] Russia
Margaret (PS0PP) [5775] and prune back so much in the name of efficiency before ... sooner
Ken (PS0RC) [5776] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5777] or later things su suffer!
Ken (PS0RC) [5778] There was, there was a programme on Channel Four there to ... I was watching ... before I picked my book up ... and ... they had Conservative ... Labour bloke and the independent er ... Liberals ... and these were supposedly ... they have on on er Channel Four a a programme called Week in Politics ... anyway ... this night, this, tonight they were doing a ... a fu , they had a floating audience, supposedly a floating audience ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [5779] You mean, they were under water?
Ken (PS0RC) [5780] flo ,fa floating vo er voters
Margaret (PS0PP) [5781] Oh!
Ken (PS0RC) [5782] er ... until, until the end ... and they had a poll of er ... who ... who has been persuaded to vote ... for ... the three la , you know, what had they done to ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5783] Oh they had to ... to say who they supported and
Ken (PS0RC) [5784] vote for the three, that's right ... and there was one ... one put their hand up for ... he persuaded them that Ne , Neil Kinnock would be a good leader, that was it ... er ... so one put their hand up for him ... one put their hand up for Major ... and she had the cheek to say
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5785] that that is only because I'm a Conservative!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5786] [laughing] And it was supposed to be [...] , if the audience was supposed to be voting []
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5787] and I mean ... but the ... quite ... the majority of them ... er ... put their hands up for ... Paddy Ashdown.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5788] Yeah ... he's a very persuasive ... [...] character
Ken (PS0RC) [5789] Well when [...] and he wasn't on ... he wasn't on, but he he at the ... towards the end ... they gave the three of them ... thirty seconds to describe the go , you know, the qualities of ... of the
Margaret (PS0PP) [5790] Of a good leader.
Ken (PS0RC) [5791] of of of er ... their leader
Margaret (PS0PP) [5792] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5793] and ... the one ... one for the Libs ... he only used twenty seconds, twenty two seconds!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5794] And he finished?
Ken (PS0RC) [5795] And, you know ... he said ... I'm sure Paddy Ashdown would think that you could of found something else [laughing] to use the other
Margaret (PS0PP) [5796] To say.
Ken (PS0RC) [5797] eight seconds up [] !
[5798] ... But er ... but ... he ended up, you know ... as sure as they've asked er the
Margaret (PS0PP) [5799] [...] something to say
Ken (PS0RC) [5800] the show of hands, like he was er ... he was the one that the floating voters were
Margaret (PS0PP) [5801] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5802] But
Margaret (PS0PP) [5803] I mean
Ken (PS0RC) [5804] But only
Margaret (PS0PP) [5805] He, he looks a very persuasive kind of character doesn't he erm ... I mean he's, he's quite sort of erm ... well a nice person ... well he
Ken (PS0RC) [5806] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5807] seems to be!
Ken (PS0RC) [5808] But er
Margaret (PS0PP) [5809] But ... you know
Ken (PS0RC) [5810] Well see ... wha wha down ... there was a couple there in their leather jackets ... look, looked a cli ... couple ... you know, the boy and girl ... couple of yobbos!
[5811] ... Looked a right couple of yobbos ... And ... er ... well what day is it like?
[5812] ... Well he says er ... how could you vote for Kinnock he says ... because the press attacks him and he doesn't defend himself!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5813] [laugh] ... But your dukes up Neil!
Ken (PS0RC) [5814] You know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5815] Yeah, well
Ken (PS0RC) [5816] And this is the mentality of them!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5817] Childish!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5818] I mean ... ha ... when it comes down to it, at the end of the day ... today ... we we live in ... er a media orientated world don't we?
[5819] We turn on the box
Ken (PS0RC) [5820] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5821] and we ... we see what ... is fed to us there, we pick up [...] , you pick up the ... you know, the comic strip papers ... you know,yo you see headlines there, most of it is is ... you know ... Tory ... sort of dominated.
Ken (PS0RC) [5822] Orientated.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5823] But er ... that ... so it depends whether you, whether you actually think about what you're seeing and what you're reading and
Ken (PS0RC) [5824] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5825] what you're hearing doesn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [5826] Well I mean, I I take the Express
Margaret (PS0PP) [5827] Mmmm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5828] and
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5829] they say that ad , it pays to advertise ... I mean, to me advertising has never done ... anything for me ... well I don't think it has anyway ... but if ... it pays to advertise and look at ... the number of people that read the Express
Margaret (PS0PP) [5830] What do you want Lucy?
Ken (PS0RC) [5831] you know, the ... that ... would
Margaret (PS0PP) [5832] What?
Ken (PS0RC) [5833] convert a lot of people if they [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5834] Oh yes!
Ken (PS0RC) [5835] definitely because it it is
Margaret (PS0PP) [5836] No!
Ken (PS0RC) [5837] you know, I I I don't, I don't look at the first four pages in the Express ... cos that's
Raymond (PS0PN) [5838] No.
Ken (PS0RC) [5839] all it is!
[5840] It's running Labour down
Margaret (PS0PP) [5841] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5842] Same old stuff!
Ken (PS0RC) [5843] And ... yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5844] Well in a
Ken (PS0RC) [5845] and
Margaret (PS0PP) [5846] way
Ken (PS0RC) [5847] how good John Major is and how good
Raymond (PS0PN) [5848] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5849] and the Tory, you know ... they're giving them victory because they they ... supposedly we're we're up to the, up to as many er ... we're level with the ... with the Labour party now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5850] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5851] And they are, you know, this is a victory!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5852] Yeah ... it's pathetic!
[5853] ... I I I think really they er ... they forget that that there's a ... quite a large number of the population, they do think about what's going on, and they're not all children and they're not ... and aren't all that easy ... easily persuaded.
[5854] ... But, having said that [laughing] there is ... but there are, but there as well!
Ken (PS0RC) [5855] No but I mean,the there's but there's a lot of people, you see ... when you say they're not easily persuaded ... that ... are working class ... that are voting Tory ... and they're not easily persuaded they cha
Margaret (PS0PP) [5856] Well they did, I
Ken (PS0RC) [5857] just changed their mind!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5858] Mm.
[5859] ... Well ... having ... seen a little bit ... erm ... was on the other day and I I mean I ... I must admit I touch ... shut up you!
[5860] Nothing to do with you!
[5861] ... A lot of what's erm ... you know, going on now, I mean, is just gonna go off as far I'm concerned cos I mean I've already made up my mind.
Ken (PS0RC) [5862] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5863] I'm a loyal supporter!
Ken (PS0RC) [5864] Well that's it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5865] And that's it!
[5866] ... But erm ... you know o , I mean it's, there's so much analysis and what not, I mean I I think most, most people must do the same ... a lot of them have made their minds up and the ones who haven't ... either don't really care
Ken (PS0RC) [5867] No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5868] or ... they're so serious about it that they'll probably be watching everything, you know, just to sort of make sure that they know everything about
Ken (PS0RC) [5869] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5870] every party!
Ken (PS0RC) [5871] Yeah.
[5872] ... And making sure I get the right one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5873] But I think the majority of them just won't bother anyway, to watch
Ken (PS0RC) [5874] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5875] they've already made their minds up ... and a ... and definitely a lot of people vote on on ... on basically the choice
Ken (PS0RC) [5876] On the spur of the mom ... on the spur
Margaret (PS0PP) [5877] Well
Ken (PS0RC) [5878] of the moment, on the day
Margaret (PS0PP) [5879] think well they've had long enough now we'll ... we'll have a switch you know
Ken (PS0RC) [5880] Or or the ... they like the look of the bloke, they like his photograph
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [5881] and they'll go and vote for him!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5882] That's right.
[5883] ... And I mean there's that been that much ... publicity about Neil Kinnock ... you know, or anti ... Neil
Ken (PS0RC) [5884] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5885] Kinnock publicity.
[5886] ... But er, I mean a lot of people say ooh, you know, I wouldn't trust him with it!
[5887] ... And they didn't really know anything about the blooming bloke you know!
[5888] Well he's never been
Ken (PS0RC) [5889] Of course not!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5890] in power before well
Ken (PS0RC) [5891] It's only what they've read in the newspaper!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5892] Neither has ... blooming John Major you know!
[5893] Neither has ... blooming Maggie Thatcher before she came in, you know!
[5894] I mean it's
Ken (PS0RC) [5895] Well I mean you've only got lo
Margaret (PS0PP) [5896] They'll be a first time [laughing] for everything [] !
Ken (PS0RC) [5897] You've got to take the way her
Margaret (PS0PP) [5898] Wack
Ken (PS0RC) [5899] her image changed
Margaret (PS0PP) [5900] Wack a wack a wack!
Ken (PS0RC) [5901] over the years
Margaret (PS0PP) [5902] Mm, yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5903] the voice ... the
Margaret (PS0PP) [5904] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5905] shape of ... the shape of her face and hair. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5906] In fact I think that Spitting Image dummy was more like her than she was!
Ken (PS0RC) [5907] You you loo , you look
Margaret (PS0PP) [5908] Mhm.
Ken (PS0RC) [5909] at the years ... how she changed, practically every year!
[5910] ... Her image changed.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5911] Well ... it started to become like er
Ken (PS0RC) [5912] A a little what do they call them?
[5913] These dolls.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5914] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5915] What do they call them?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5916] Barbie doll.
Ken (PS0RC) [5917] Barbie doll ... and that's what she was.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5918] Well no, not as attractive as a Barbie doll!
Ken (PS0RC) [5919] Well ... no, but
Margaret (PS0PP) [5920] But
Ken (PS0RC) [5921] I'm ... but the style was there ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5922] She,i it was ... it was becoming like a dictatorship!
[5923] ... It was her at the helm
Ken (PS0RC) [5924] Ooh well this is what it beca , it did
Margaret (PS0PP) [5925] And
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [5926] and th the so called democratic, you know, choice of all these poli , all these MP's and what not which would comprise ... parliament and government and head of the Tory party at the time ... you know i ... it really ... their voices on the, on the ... the cabinet ... you know, they were, they were just destroyed!
Ken (PS0RC) [5927] Well, you said ... you know you, we were on about Germany and, and becoming you know ... could it happen again?
[5928] ... If ... if she'd of had her way ... she would of been the dictator of this
Margaret (PS0PP) [5929] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [5930] country, and she would of been in power forever!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5931] Oh I know!
Ken (PS0RC) [5932] You know that's, she would of been wanting to ma , make her life president or whatever it was!
[5933] ... I think she would of done with the Que , er done away with the Queen to get
Margaret (PS0PP) [5934] [laugh] ... Yes, I think there was a bit of competition on there wasn't
Ken (PS0RC) [5935] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5936] there?
Ken (PS0RC) [5937] I'm convinced
Margaret (PS0PP) [5938] But
Ken (PS0RC) [5939] she wouldould!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5940] Yeah, I mean
Ken (PS0RC) [5941] If it meant her staying in power that, I mean she
Margaret (PS0PP) [5942] Well
Ken (PS0RC) [5943] would of done it she would of got rid of them to make sure she ... she stayed there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5944] Yes it came to er
Ken (PS0RC) [5945] Are you tired?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5946] A fine state of affairs didn't it
Raymond (PS0PN) [5947] No, I'm alright Ken, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5948] with her ... even her own party ... giving
Ken (PS0RC) [5949] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [5950] her the heave-ho!
Ken (PS0RC) [5951] Well this is it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5952] You know, I mean tha
Ken (PS0RC) [5953] She was ... they I mean she was go
Margaret (PS0PP) [5954] That's how it must be.
Ken (PS0RC) [5955] she was going too far for them
Margaret (PS0PP) [5956] Well
Ken (PS0RC) [5957] she must of been.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5958] well this is it ... I think she was beginning to endanger her chances of re-election and I think
Ken (PS0RC) [5959] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5960] they let her go on too long and it
Ken (PS0RC) [5961] Well to be but er
Margaret (PS0PP) [5962] And er
Ken (PS0RC) [5963] but they did let her go on too long!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5964] I mean it's turned into a bit of a joke now really
Ken (PS0RC) [5965] Yes it has.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5966] hasn't it?
[5967] You know, our policies are working, I mean after thirteen years
Ken (PS0RC) [5968] Well they've had long enough to do it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5969] And this recession that we've been coming out of for so many years now it's ... I mean it's just turned into a bit of a joke! ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5970] They're all making money for themselves aren't they?
[5971] ... That's why I'm suspicious
Ken (PS0RC) [5972] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [5973] of the Labour party!
Margaret (PS0PP) [5974] Well
Ken (PS0RC) [5975] The Labour party?
Margaret (PS0PP) [5976] No, I don't
Raymond (PS0PN) [5977] The big shots you know!
[5978] ... Money in the bank
Margaret (PS0PP) [5979] No I don't ... [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [5980] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [5981] Whe whe when they're small they're Ken
Margaret (PS0PP) [5982] I, I [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [5983] but once they get a
Ken (PS0RC) [5984] Well ah now ... what have I said to you ... [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [5985] Para ... power corrupts I know.
Ken (PS0RC) [5986] Mm Mm, yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5987] And that's the way power corrupts.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5988] But, well it's what I've just said!
Ken (PS0RC) [5989] Yeah but I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [5990] That's true.
Ken (PS0RC) [5991] you'd never agree with before!
Raymond (PS0PN) [5992] No you we , you was ... relating it to ... to ... power in this country to any country and saying
Margaret (PS0PP) [5993] Any country.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5994] it was exact, identical.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5995] Well it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5996] And that's what I ... disagreed with.
Margaret (PS0PP) [5997] It is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [5998] I I said
Margaret (PS0PP) [5999] It is [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6000] you can't compare the ca , the power like just say ... in a place like Turkey ... which is absolutely rotten!
[6001] They got no law at all, or very little ... with, with the
Ken (PS0RC) [6002] Well it's corruption!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6003] Ooh yeah!
[6004] I mean, if a little kid in the in the
Ken (PS0RC) [6005] And that is, that is what [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6006] in the in the playground er
Ken (PS0RC) [6007] Well that's what it amounts to!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6008] You know
Ken (PS0RC) [6009] It's corruption!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6010] coerces some kid into selling him his marbles, that's corruption isn't it?
[6011] ... But there are levels aren't there?
[6012] One ... one is more
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6013] extreme than the other.
[6014] ... So we've got corruption in us probably ... so it depends upon the degree
Ken (PS0RC) [6015] Well, yes we have.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6016] but you don't expect to get out of the ruddy
Margaret (PS0PP) [6017] Aha.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6018] Socialist Party!
[6019] ... Because
Ken (PS0RC) [6020] Why not?
[6021] ... Because I said to yo , I said to you that it was the same in Russia!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6022] And how much corruption have you discovered in the Socialist Party?
[6023] ... The Labour Party?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6024] Have I discovered?
[6025] You mean have I seen
Margaret (PS0PP) [6026] Well how much [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6027] on the television
Margaret (PS0PP) [6028] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6029] these people that
Ken (PS0RC) [6030] Well what do you
Raymond (PS0PN) [6031] talk with two tongues and say
Ken (PS0RC) [6032] Well what do you know about them that you say they've
Margaret (PS0PP) [6033] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [6034] they've got er
Margaret (PS0PP) [6035] What do you base your i , your [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6036] What happens when they retire?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6037] Well what happens when they retire?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6038] Do they end up ... working the way we've got to bloody work ... here ... on this tiny pension ... or the pension that they've earned as an MP
Margaret (PS0PP) [6039] Well [...] have retired from the Labour
Raymond (PS0PN) [6040] Well alright
Margaret (PS0PP) [6041] Party.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6042] Harold Wilson, prime example
Ken (PS0RC) [6043] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6044] rich man!
[6045] ... Lord Wilson
Ken (PS0RC) [6046] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6047] socialist, I mean
Ken (PS0RC) [6048] Well how da , how do you know what [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6049] They're supposed to be against all that aren't they?
Ken (PS0RC) [6050] Wait a minute!
[6051] ... How do you know he's a rich man ... and what do you class ... what do yo , what do you base in rich [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6052] Well a man that's got more than one home for a start!
Ken (PS0RC) [6053] Yeah.
[6054] ... Well er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6055] Because that's erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6056] You must have been rich then ... a couple of years ago?
[6057] ... When you brought a second home!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6058] Now don't talk ru , you know what I'm on about!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6059] No, I don't, no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6060] I don't mean a bloody home like that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6061] No, [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [6062] Er, wait a minute Ray!
[6063] ... He's he's, he's lead a public life
Raymond (PS0PN) [6064] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [6065] so he can write ... he can write a few books, he can go out there and talk
Margaret (PS0PP) [6066] Mhm.
Ken (PS0RC) [6067] So he earns money, is that a, is that a corruption of his job?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6068] No, well ... talking to earn money, no!
Ken (PS0RC) [6069] Do you agree?
[6070] ... Yo , I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [6071] If he er, if he gets paid by
Ken (PS0RC) [6072] It's the same
Raymond (PS0PN) [6073] the hour.
Ken (PS0RC) [6074] It is the sa , it is the sa , it is the same as Maggie Thatcher going to America now
Raymond (PS0PN) [6075] Course it is!
Ken (PS0RC) [6076] And she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [6077] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [6078] pa , and she's paid half a
Raymond (PS0PN) [6079] Well i
Ken (PS0RC) [6080] million pounds for her [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6081] Well tha that that is
Margaret (PS0PP) [6082] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6083] worse isn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [6084] So I mean, er I dunno
Raymond (PS0PN) [6085] But it's it's the degree
Margaret (PS0PP) [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6086] How can that how can that man as a socialist ... justify earning ... well I don't know what he gets, but we'll say he doesn't
Ken (PS0RC) [6087] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [6088] get as much as Thatcher, say he gets ... forty thousand
Margaret (PS0PP) [6089] Well no, I didn't know [...] no you don't [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [6090] Oh, now wait a, wait a minute!
[6091] Now I, I have said to, I have said to you
Raymond (PS0PN) [6092] He's a rich man
Ken (PS0RC) [6093] that everybody
Raymond (PS0PN) [6094] and he shouldn't be!
Ken (PS0RC) [6095] everybody should earn the same.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6096] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [6097] But you all said ... that it depends on his skill or his what's his name
Raymond (PS0PN) [6098] Or how many kids he's got.
[6099] ... If I've got twenty five kids and you've only got one yo , I need more than you!
[6100] ... So how can you possibly all earn the same?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6101] Why not?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6102] Well you wouldn't have enough would you, to su ... sustain all those
Ken (PS0RC) [6103] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6104] kids?
[6105] ... Why?
Ken (PS0RC) [6106] You'd have to get enough to live on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6107] I can't see that!
Ken (PS0RC) [6108] I mean er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6109] No, I can't see the argument!
Ken (PS0RC) [6110] Well, to me you shouldn't have twenty five kids anyway!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6111] Well that's dictatorship
Ken (PS0RC) [6112] Because because it, I would have a dictatorship on that!
[6113] I mean that's, I would have
Raymond (PS0PN) [6114] Well that's, alright well ... well that's
Ken (PS0RC) [6115] control of the world population, I se
Margaret (PS0PP) [6116] I would limit to two children.
Ken (PS0RC) [6117] I would er, have control of the
Raymond (PS0PN) [6118] That's another argument!
Ken (PS0RC) [6119] world population.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6120] Well fair enough!
[6121] But
Margaret (PS0PP) [6122] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6123] that is another argument!
[6124] It is, we're on the road .
Ken (PS0RC) [6125] That is er, that would mu , that would be my first priority.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6126] Oh [...] !
[6127] I thought your first one was everyone getting
Ken (PS0RC) [6128] I'm not go
Raymond (PS0PN) [6129] the same pay!
Ken (PS0RC) [6130] Yes, so everybody
Raymond (PS0PN) [6131] So
Ken (PS0RC) [6132] would need the same pay.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6133] But no matter what you'd, you know at the end of the week or the year or whatever
Ken (PS0RC) [6134] No, but I mean ... I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [6135] there's all those people who have the same pay, that at the end of the year they would end up with different amounts ... because people would manage money differently
Ken (PS0RC) [6136] Differently
Margaret (PS0PP) [6137] some would spend it
Ken (PS0RC) [6138] Of course they would!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6139] as soon as they get it
Raymond (PS0PN) [6140] Oh yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6141] some would go into hock ... and spend it before they get it
Ken (PS0RC) [6142] before they got it yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6143] some would save it, and be frugal!
Ken (PS0RC) [6144] Alright, alright then [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6145] Which is what the Tories want you see [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [6146] What I want
Raymond (PS0PN) [6147] I think the trouble is
Ken (PS0RC) [6148] I want
Margaret (PS0PP) [6149] no, you're defending them!
Ken (PS0RC) [6150] I won't give anybody any money ... you can go to the shop and buy what you basically need.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6151] You see yo
Ken (PS0RC) [6152] No but we're devia
Raymond (PS0PN) [6153] your
Ken (PS0RC) [6154] we're deviating on the subject
Raymond (PS0PN) [6155] well you did ... because your, straight away you go onto money ... which is our God isn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [6156] Well, no but you said it was corruption
Raymond (PS0PN) [6157] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [6158] and I've only yo mentioned, well you mentioned money because you mentioned Harold Wilson
Margaret (PS0PP) [6159] Mm.
Ken (PS0RC) [6160] with two homes ... and you said the money they get!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6161] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [6162] So you brought the subject of the money up!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6163] No, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [6164] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6165] but you're on about something else, you said the first thing I'd do, that's got nothing to do with Harold Wilson ... the first thing I if I were in power
Ken (PS0RC) [6166] But there would
Raymond (PS0PN) [6167] which
Ken (PS0RC) [6168] be like I
Margaret (PS0PP) [6169] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [6170] say, we're deviating on the
Raymond (PS0PN) [6171] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [6172] subject!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6173] no no no but I'm pa if
Ken (PS0RC) [6174] So go on yo
Raymond (PS0PN) [6175] I were in power there wouldn't be any money ... no need for it!
[6176] ... Then you
Ken (PS0RC) [6177] Well I
Raymond (PS0PN) [6178] wouldn't have all
Ken (PS0RC) [6179] I
Raymond (PS0PN) [6180] the arguments!
Ken (PS0RC) [6181] I know that!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6182] So you wouldn't
Ken (PS0RC) [6183] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6184] say that at all!
Ken (PS0RC) [6185] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6186] Yeah.
[6187] ... And what would you do
Raymond (PS0PN) [6188] But in the case of these people that ... start off
Ken (PS0RC) [6189] So why why should
Raymond (PS0PN) [6190] Fair do's they start off in University, clever blokes ... and a lot of them worked in the mines, Shinwells ... what's his name?
[6191] Beven ... miners
Margaret (PS0PP) [6192] Just for money!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6193] Well I won't say ... Beven ... because it's a bloody shame what happened to him!
[6194] But never the less ... a lot of them started off like that didn't they?
[6195] ... Another one is Foot.
Ken (PS0RC) [6196] Ah but er he
Raymond (PS0PN) [6197] And ... as they get into, as you say, power and I quite agree ... somebody has a talk with them so look here
Ken (PS0RC) [6198] We know
Raymond (PS0PN) [6199] we know you're a socialist
Ken (PS0RC) [6200] But you still earned a few bob to get on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6201] But er, you you we're gonna make you a nice one and join the bloody club ... so you'll be ... an armchair socialist ... and we look after you ... and that's what they are!
[6202] ... Callaghan is another example ... two or three homes ... big Jim with all his bloody money what does he care about working people?
[6203] ... And this feller Kinnock's the same, you can see the style of them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6204] I think he must be [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6205] Bloody big cuffs! ... [...] cufflinks!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6206] I think you [...] I think you've been saying [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [6207] Ah well, no not [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6208] Saville Row shirts!
Ken (PS0RC) [6209] No, you're making him it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [6210] I think if you
Ken (PS0RC) [6211] mistake, you're making a mistake there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6212] as the leader of the Labour Party or the Liberal Party
Ken (PS0RC) [6213] You have got to keep up with you've gotta keep up with
Margaret (PS0PP) [6214] to go
Ken (PS0RC) [6215] image ... and how to be
Margaret (PS0PP) [6216] Yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [6217] a leader in this country!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6218] No, you haven't!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6219] You can't expect, yes you have!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6220] Foot never did!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6221] You have!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6222] Michael Foot?
Ken (PS0RC) [6223] What did he, what where did it get him?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6224] Well you just said you just go you just said you've gotta give them a
Ken (PS0RC) [6225] How long did it last?
[6226] How long did it how long did it last?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6227] Are you, are telling ... are you telling me that you'd vote for somebody in rags on the television who promised you a better future?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6228] I did!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6229] What do you mean you did?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6230] Voted for Foot.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6231] Who did you sa , oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6232] You sod!
[6233] ... You did not!
[6234] ... And he was never in power anyway!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6235] He was, he was the Prime Minister!
Ken (PS0RC) [6236] Oh he was
Margaret (PS0PP) [6237] Well!
Ken (PS0RC) [6238] not!
[6239] ... He was never the Prime
Margaret (PS0PP) [6240] He wasn't, Michael Foot?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6241] Oh I know he put [...] in there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6242] Oh no he
Raymond (PS0PN) [6243] He should of been.
Ken (PS0RC) [6244] He's never been president of [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6245] He was very outspoken he was a very outspoken
Raymond (PS0PN) [6246] He should of been!
Ken (PS0RC) [6247] He was leader of the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6248] But the first
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6249] bloody ... only the ... the way they should dress!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6250] Ah, yes well ah, that's got nothing to do with it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6251] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6252] But now it has!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6253] I mean he's probably got more money than they've bloody got!
[6254] The [...] it's all a blind anyway those rags he goes round in!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6255] Duffel coat, he got he got censored
Ken (PS0RC) [6256] There's
Margaret (PS0PP) [6257] because he wore a duffel coat instead [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6258] Well it's like
Ken (PS0RC) [6259] That man underneath a duffel coat [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6260] What did Ken say about this chap from Vauxhalls?
[6261] ... Convena did all his work ... and they asked him to go to London ... you know, there's some was on years ago ... so he goes to the headquarters and he said he just couldn't believe it, he turned on him and said ... you're a shallow bloody hypocrite he said!
[6262] Those lads down there they're fighting ... living on their ruddy ... strike pay ... and look at you lot!
[6263] ... He said they were there the whisky was flowing ... you know hypocrites!
[6264] ... And he said, oh come on you're here have a bloody good
Margaret (PS0PP) [6265] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [6266] time you know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6267] on your argument then ... anybody who ... who works their way up through the ranks and gets to the top ... has gotta become corrupted!
[6268] ... That's what you're saying, no ma
Raymond (PS0PN) [6269] Well if there i if there in a
Margaret (PS0PP) [6270] no matter who, no matter what !
Raymond (PS0PN) [6271] If they're in a corrupt society ... and when they get to that position they ... they don't do anything about it and accept
Ken (PS0RC) [6272] Well they
Raymond (PS0PN) [6273] it and take
Ken (PS0RC) [6274] they don't
Raymond (PS0PN) [6275] the bribes, well yes I agree this is the
Margaret (PS0PP) [6276] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6277] the
Margaret (PS0PP) [6278] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6279] basis of the mafia isn't it?
Ken (PS0RC) [6280] Ah, you see if ... if you don't, I mean ... it's not, it doesn't happen in, in every walk of life ... but in big business and in politics ... if you don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [6281] You have to modify your [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6282] I'll tell you , I'll tell you how
Ken (PS0RC) [6283] No, no if you don't tow the line
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6284] Exactly!
Ken (PS0RC) [6285] If you just don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [6286] if you'd be elected
Raymond (PS0PN) [6287] Yes ... and you don't modify you ... what happens?
Ken (PS0RC) [6288] You don't get anywhere!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6289] You don't get elected which is what happened
Raymond (PS0PN) [6290] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [6291] to the Labour government
Raymond (PS0PN) [6292] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [6293] last time!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6294] oh well, oh well apart apart from being
Margaret (PS0PP) [6295] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6296] elected
Margaret (PS0PP) [6297] fifty percent of the population
Raymond (PS0PN) [6298] apart from that
Margaret (PS0PP) [6299] wanted control on nuclear weapons, or wanted to abolish nuclear weapons but they the the ... Labour government didn't get in ... on that basis ... so they had to modify their ... and I mean as [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6300] Well you can use that for any argument then
Ken (PS0RC) [6301] But I mean but what what
Raymond (PS0PN) [6302] can't you?
Ken (PS0RC) [6303] what I want
Raymond (PS0PN) [6304] Do everything the tories do because we're not gonna get in!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6305] Well
Ken (PS0RC) [6306] Well well no I mean it's not
Raymond (PS0PN) [6307] Well that's what they've bloody done near enough!
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6308] Well yeah!
Ken (PS0RC) [6309] And another thing that I [...] fifty thousand
Margaret (PS0PP) [6310] The, they [...] ... it's a [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6311] Mean time all the vil , all the ... mines are closing are they gonna say well yes well
Ken (PS0RC) [6312] Well well we've gotta do that because ... be be being practical.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6313] Well I think it's a very being short sighted thing to do to erm
Ken (PS0RC) [6314] Well I I think I think you'll find that well if Labour [...] gets in
Raymond (PS0PN) [6315] I mean it's [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [6316] they will, they will scra , they would find that most of the
Margaret (PS0PP) [6317] I hope they'll rescind that.
Ken (PS0RC) [6318] mos , they wo , they wouldn't rescind it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6319] What the mines?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6320] Yes.
Ken (PS0RC) [6321] They wouldn't close them.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6322] The closure of the mines.
Ken (PS0RC) [6323] No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6324] I think
Raymond (PS0PN) [6325] Well they can't close the ones that's already
Margaret (PS0PP) [6326] Don't you think so?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6327] gone in eight
Ken (PS0RC) [6328] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6329] nineteen eighty one can they?
[6330] They've
Ken (PS0RC) [6331] Oh I know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6332] gone!
[6333] Closed!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6334] Well
Ken (PS0RC) [6335] Yeah but I'm, I I know I don't [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6336] Well some of them certainly
Raymond (PS0PN) [6337] And they closed one the other week that's flooded now
Margaret (PS0PP) [6338] will definitely [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6339] so that's
Ken (PS0RC) [6340] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6341] I don't think that this
Ken (PS0RC) [6342] They, they won't they they wouldn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [6343] can't rescind that!
Ken (PS0RC) [6344] they wouldn't bring
Margaret (PS0PP) [6345] But I
Ken (PS0RC) [6346] money on the mining [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6347] And that goes for a lot of businesses!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6348] I mean, there's enough coal ... in the United Kingdom to last for another two hundred years!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6349] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6350] And that could possibly be the only, and ah ... I mean it's it's a
Ken (PS0RC) [6351] Ah but
Margaret (PS0PP) [6352] it's a dirty fuel to use at the moment but they're all, there are means being developed even now on [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6353] Well I've no doubt in twenty
Margaret (PS0PP) [6354] I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [6355] years time the tories will re-open them
Margaret (PS0PP) [6356] much [...] it's it's far
Raymond (PS0PN) [6357] at at great cost to us!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6358] Ah but you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [6359] Nothing to stop them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [6360] that ... it's
Ken (PS0RC) [6361] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [6362] very short sighted to get rid of that now!
[6363] I mean, we're buying coal which is subsidised abroad ... so therefore it's cheaper for us to buy it ... and bring it in, but what happens when all, all our home supplies have dried up
Raymond (PS0PN) [6364] I know [...] I know
Margaret (PS0PP) [6365] [...] and we can't them any more?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6366] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [6367] You know we , very well what'll
Raymond (PS0PN) [6368] but what happen
Margaret (PS0PP) [6369] happen!
[6370] ... When, when that market's been pruned
Raymond (PS0PN) [6371] alright
Margaret (PS0PP) [6372] down and the only
Raymond (PS0PN) [6373] what happen
Margaret (PS0PP) [6374] place you can get it but the price is [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [6375] What happened in nineteen eighty one?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6376] They're so short sighted!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6377] What did Bob say about the miners?
[6378] ... When, you know when that strike was on ... but it's ... like a lot of people
Margaret (PS0PP) [6379] What did he say about the
Raymond (PS0PN) [6380] Ooh that
Margaret (PS0PP) [6381] teachers?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6382] bloody lot of, bloody
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6383] lot of clowns!
[6384] Arthur Scargill ... bloody clown!
[6385] ... Now
Margaret (PS0PP) [6386] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6387] those fellers fought to keep those mines open ... and they got one of lot miners divided and said oh bugger them!
[6388] ... The fellers in the Midlands was it?
Ken (PS0RC) [6389] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6390] Yo er ... Notin
Ken (PS0RC) [6391] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6392] Nottingham round there?
Ken (PS0RC) [6393] St. Helens
Raymond (PS0PN) [6394] Ooh bloody no
Ken (PS0RC) [6395] Wa wa wa wa wa wa wa
Raymond (PS0PN) [6396] and they ploughed twenty five million into their mines and said your jobs are guaranteed now fore , forget it you know, you're alright for thirty years what [...] .
[6397] ... Now they're closing the bloody things!
[6398] ... Now, you know we sho ... something should of happened then ... they should of prolonged that strike ... to destroy these buggers and said no you're not gonna close them!
[6399] ... But the peop ... lot of people agreed with it!
Ken (PS0RC) [6400] Well of course!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6401] They said they weren't being
Ken (PS0RC) [6402] But
Raymond (PS0PN) [6403] realistic!
Ken (PS0RC) [6404] what do they do, they divide and conquer Ray!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6405] Yeah but why should bloody intelligent people go along with it Ken?
[6406] That's what gets my plate!
Ken (PS0RC) [6407] Because they , because the intelligent people weren't involved!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6408] No I mean, I'm talking about the people ... who are not actually ... er, you know
Ken (PS0RC) [6409] I i if
Raymond (PS0PN) [6410] concerned directly but give
Ken (PS0RC) [6411] But
Raymond (PS0PN) [6412] their approval ... for these
Ken (PS0RC) [6413] But they're
Raymond (PS0PN) [6414] people.
Ken (PS0RC) [6415] they're not involved, the people ... the people that give their approval are the people that want it!
[6416] ... And I mean er, and
Raymond (PS0PN) [6417] Yeah but I mean
Ken (PS0RC) [6418] and also ... they, they get the masses on their side by the media!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6419] I know!
Ken (PS0RC) [6420] The same as they're
Raymond (PS0PN) [6421] Exactly!
Ken (PS0RC) [6422] doing now with the ... I mean ... what paper have you got?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6423] I know, well there you are!
Ken (PS0RC) [6424] A Labour paper!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6425] This is what terrifies me!
Ken (PS0RC) [6426] And what's, what's er ... what's your chance?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6427] The Mirror.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6428] Where's that ball gone?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6429] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6430] Bring that ball here!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6431] You got no bloody chance!
[6432] ... But as I say, people believe everything, it's gospel!
[6433] ... And you never hear the Labour party criticising.
[6434] ... You know, but they should be ... criticised out of hand what's going on in this country but they bloody don't!
Ken (PS0RC) [6435] Well when when ... if if the Labour party criticised ... and they do criticise
Raymond (PS0PN) [6436] Oh they criticise Ken, yeah.
Ken (PS0RC) [6437] The only time that you will hear about it is whe , if you have the television on ... and you see it happening on the parliament ... and on your papers.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6438] Well you read your paper don't you?
[6439] ... And we get a middle of the road one which is the Observer
Ken (PS0RC) [6440] We we'll watch
Raymond (PS0PN) [6441] which is, they get some ... they do some pretty good
Ken (PS0RC) [6442] But how often do the ... I mean, they ... they don't give you ... they don't give you every detail that's gone on all week!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6443] Oh no they're [...] or there's certain ar
Ken (PS0RC) [6444] [...] they only pick
Raymond (PS0PN) [6445] a certain subject or
Ken (PS0RC) [6446] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6447] whatever that's been thrashed.
Ken (PS0RC) [6448] As you say , we'll see.
[6449] ... Well ... he's gone on ... seven days of the week ... complaining about so and so ... we'll just narrow that down to one article about his ... his complaint that they may just make a little note ... he's complained seven times about this!
[6450] ... So you see a little article
Raymond (PS0PN) [6451] That's right.
Ken (PS0RC) [6452] he's not complaining!
Raymond (PS0PN) [6453] Yeah, but I mean basic things Ken, we'll take for example
Ken (PS0RC) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6454] the low wages
Ken (PS0RC) [6455] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6456] we, we haven't got one now, they got one in Germany, they got one in France ... I in
Ken (PS0RC) [6457] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6458] Italy.
Ken (PS0RC) [6459] Well yes.

25 (Tape 030101)

Margaret (PS0PP) [6460] Oh there we go, that was mistake number one ... George dear have you read the er holiday page at all?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6461] No not yet, er only about France, and I told you about
Margaret (PS0PP) [6462] Oh I'm not sure
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6463] the
Margaret (PS0PP) [6464] Oh dear
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6465] places you can go to
Margaret (PS0PP) [6466] Mm
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6467] which is a fallacy
Margaret (PS0PP) [6468] I thought it was Barry there, he looked a bit like him.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6469] No he's trying to get up, get down naughty boy.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6470] E T get down, down.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6471] Down there, there's a good boy
Margaret (PS0PP) [6472] If you tell him sternly, he does understand the tone of your voice ... if he goes off and sulks for a while, well so be it ... you'll have to sulk till you get used to it, there you are.
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6473] ... in the U K ... mm, yeah, all looks very nice, camping
Raymond (PS0PN) [6474] Joking aren't you camping?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6475] Well that's just what it looks like here ... you just eating al fresco and going back up to the chateau at a night
Raymond (PS0PN) [6476] Oh we're back in France again are we?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6477] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6478] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [6479] well
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6480] Oh I see, yeah, yes it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [6481] Mm ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6482] It's not a cheap holiday by the time we get, get down there your petrol
Margaret (PS0PP) [6483] Well for us I mean it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [6484] and then the ferry across
Margaret (PS0PP) [6485] it's not so bad for somebody living on the south coast
Raymond (PS0PN) [6486] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [6487] but er, as you say erm, really it's such a long journey that you need a breather before you need to start to cross the channel
Raymond (PS0PN) [6488] Oh yes I think so ... a good thing you're inviting Ken didn't I to come with us?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6489] Yes I did mentioned it erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6490] Did you to Ken?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6491] Well you were there weren't you too?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6492] I just mentioned it in passing and let the conversation carried on about something else so I, I don't know whether
Raymond (PS0PN) [6493] We didn't come into it
Margaret (PS0PP) [6494] Well, I mean we just said well that's, you know, an expensive place for a holiday by the sound of it, but erm we hadn't got into any details.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6495] Well this was erm Bulgaria
Margaret (PS0PP) [6496] Yes, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [6497] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6498] but er so I, I don't know if he'd be interested in.
[6499] I certainly wouldn't coach it ... so ... I think you would be creased by the time you got there in two days.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6500] Yeah but of course if you were being serious you'd have to ask him directly wouldn't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6501] Oh yes, yeah, well I, I, I think we'd have to ... to begin with to er get something a bit more concrete, you know, about time, time
Raymond (PS0PN) [6502] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6503] cost and what not, and then you know when we've decided I mean ... I'm not particularly bothered whether
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6504] comes along or not, but I just thought it might be nice to to give him a break away from home and he won't go on his
Raymond (PS0PN) [6505] Well I mean you're only doing it for him really aren't you, that's the idea was to help him
Margaret (PS0PP) [6506] Well this is it, he won't go on his own will he? ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6507] But the only other thing perhaps he'll go with one of the kids, that's a possibility
Margaret (PS0PP) [6508] Yeah possibly but I don't think they, do, they don't, I mean they, they lived in Germany for a while haven't they, so, I don't think, oh no, didn't they go to Cyprus one year Pete and Colin or am I dreaming?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6509] Italy
Margaret (PS0PP) [6510] Did they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6511] Yes Florentine
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6512] or near Venice
Margaret (PS0PP) [6513] That was when he was posted in Germany wasn't it they went from there
Raymond (PS0PN) [6514] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [6515] that's right, yeah, but whether they I suppose to be in a position to
Raymond (PS0PN) [6516] What they got
Margaret (PS0PP) [6517] afford a holiday now, I mean now they've taken on a mortgage
Raymond (PS0PN) [6518] Yes that's a point
Margaret (PS0PP) [6519] so, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [6520] that's a point, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6521] so unless erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6522] even if we
Margaret (PS0PP) [6523] tell us we
Raymond (PS0PN) [6524] went away for the weekend we could ask him along couldn't we?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6525] Well that's true, yes, yes, I mean that's the lakes, it's lovely up there isn't it?
[6526] And it's only an hour or so away, so ... perhaps you should say that
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6527] get a weekend in ...
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6528] I wonder where there is a cheap place to
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6529] where you can old furniture.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6530] Somewhere where you, where you can go, where you can offer to do the washing up for that afternoon if you get bored
Raymond (PS0PN) [6531] No I don't mean that I mean, I, we can find old shops that, are not fully conversant with the modern day prices of furniture
Margaret (PS0PP) [6532] [laugh] Oh no
Raymond (PS0PN) [6533] all furniture
Margaret (PS0PP) [6534] you've got no chance
Raymond (PS0PN) [6535] mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6536] No I mean, what is he, different
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6537] in there, operating in, especially in the what were the eastern country, erm standard of living is
Raymond (PS0PN) [6538] Oh there yes, no I meant in this country
Margaret (PS0PP) [6539] Not on par with ours is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6540] I don't think, I don't think there's anywhere left now, there might be somewhere but it'll be hard to find.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6541] Have you noticed all these holidays in Italy all Tuscany, you never see any
Raymond (PS0PN) [6542] A lot, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6543] from southern Italy at all do you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6544] Oh you see a lot of them from erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6545] Oh I mean I know you can get the brochures, but in the papers there's
Raymond (PS0PN) [6546] paediatric coast don't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6547] farmhouse in Tuscany, rows and rows of them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6548] You see them for Rome don't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6549] Not very often, not in here
Raymond (PS0PN) [6550] Is it tours?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6551] Not very often, not really
Raymond (PS0PN) [6552] Oh I mean the, the favoured place for the holiday makers is on er on the coast that was er Gisebelle and erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6553] [...] mm, what's the other one?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6554] Catonica
Margaret (PS0PP) [6555] Is it Rimini?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6556] Rimini, Catonica all on the
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6557] coast, which is er the Black Polish isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6558] [laugh] yeah
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6559] mm ... there's a photograph that was in erm Karen's Radio Times, those two girls erm going on a diet.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6560] Oh yes the
Margaret (PS0PP) [6561] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6562] the very big lady ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6563] er, yes, yes, forty minutes on er B B C, have her stomach stapled
Raymond (PS0PN) [6564] Gosh
Margaret (PS0PP) [6565] Sounds drastic doesn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6566] does it literally staple the stomach on the outside or does it
Margaret (PS0PP) [6567] Well it, according to what I read before, they say they staple the stomach down to the size of er, of a tea spoon, so presumably she, her stomach must only receive, she must of been eating twenty four hours a day, you know, to keep they, she didn't lose any weight, the other girl did, but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6568] But I still like
Margaret (PS0PP) [6569] either that or, or the capacity re for your stomach expanding is, is er incredible because er, she still, you know she still doesn't lose weight ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6570] I still like to know how they staple it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6571] Yeah [laugh] yes, I don't think you er you can measure I don't know, I mean if they staple it they close it off, er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6572] It must be an operation or
Margaret (PS0PP) [6573] Oh eh, just to staple have a another operation lost twelve stone, god it's like having, losing another person isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6574] Oh I see so it is a case of open you up and putting, inserting these staples ... must be
Margaret (PS0PP) [6575] Mm she was, what, what are you doing?
[6576] Stop it
Raymond (PS0PN) [6577] sounds a bit drastic
Margaret (PS0PP) [6578] Said she, she's going in for her fourth operation ... presumably to have this stapling done again, she says I believe that she'd be far more counsellor, I, I would of thought she, she would of had counselling anyway before they go to ... stage of operating, surely, I mean, er don't they look in into sort of psychological aspects of it, it's usually a
Raymond (PS0PN) [6579] On the concept yep
Margaret (PS0PP) [6580] more than just physical reason I, I mean a lot of people are grossly overweight they, you know, people usually say oh it's the
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6581] but now apparently in most cases it's very rare with that so it's gotta be too much eating and why do people over eat
Raymond (PS0PN) [6582] That's right it's usually too much eating or lack of exercise
Margaret (PS0PP) [6583] you know, I mean, there must be compensation for something mustn't there? ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6584] Yes it's er ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6585] I must record that Wildlife on One on er, tomorrow night, so I'm in Wales ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6586] Oh yes ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6587] Have you read any of your letters about the poems in last week's Observer?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6588] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [6589] They're not very flattering ... they didn't er, you weren't rated very highly I'm afraid ... I think er ... you tried to get away from the traditional type of
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6590] Oh I see these one that they send in
Margaret (PS0PP) [6591] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6592] Yes I er
Margaret (PS0PP) [6593] by the thousands
Raymond (PS0PN) [6594] I don't go a lot on them myself
Margaret (PS0PP) [6595] Oh poetry ... [sigh] some of those poems that Bon had in her Touchstones book, especially the ones, the war, about the war, I read some of those and it made me cry, it was so sad.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6596] Oh the, the er the ones by erm what's name
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6597] about the gas and that
Margaret (PS0PP) [6598] Oh to be honest I can't remember the
Raymond (PS0PN) [6599] Mm, very poignant
Margaret (PS0PP) [6600] Mm, but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6601] anti war
Margaret (PS0PP) [6602] what was the one about the erm ... oh ... it was about the assembling of the gun
Raymond (PS0PN) [6603] Oh yes, oh
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6604] do you remember that?
[6605] And it's all about the parts naming oh naming the parts
Raymond (PS0PN) [6606] That's right yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [6607] and er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6608] Oh yes that one's come back to me that one now
Margaret (PS0PP) [6609] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6610] horrible.
[6611] There's a chap going on about the, the fake and the furniture of these two chairs
Margaret (PS0PP) [6612] Mm ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6613] which are supposed to be erm ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6614] Come here
Raymond (PS0PN) [6615] seventeenth century
Margaret (PS0PP) [6616] come here scallywag
Raymond (PS0PN) [6617] They said to this, the er, the shape of the stretchers going from side to side where you, where you can put your feet usually
Margaret (PS0PP) [6618] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6619] you've got all this wear on them you see and the bow of these stretchers said that no one would a able to get their feet on
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6620] and the guy that's faked it has done all this
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6621] as he thought, authenticate it
Margaret (PS0PP) [6622] What, what they call it, stressing it don't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6623] Stressing it, yeah stressing it
Margaret (PS0PP) [6624] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6625] and er it would of been impossible to rest your feet on the rail them performing the most uncomfortable
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6626] contortionist, it says here
Margaret (PS0PP) [6627] [laugh] oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6628] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6629] but did it look authentic with the thing, I mean not to the extent of
Raymond (PS0PN) [6630] Well I mean to the untrained eye with a , this guy was suspicious when he saw all this cracked varnish
Margaret (PS0PP) [6631] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6632] which it turned out to be wax
Margaret (PS0PP) [6633] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6634] to simulate old varnish you see?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6635] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6636] So then he started looking
Margaret (PS0PP) [6637] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6638] They've got a way of measuring wear on er stretchers
Margaret (PS0PP) [6639] Yeah ... I mean it's, it's so clever really isn't it how, how they do sort of er fake furniture like that.
[6640] I mean to my mind you might just as well spend your money on, what are you doing idiot, on a well made piece of furniture today like some of those we've seen in, in
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6641] beautifully made erm, I mean they're brand new but they will be antiques I suppose in the future ... you know for your, for your grandchildren sort of thing, but er I mean you can't possibly think what's
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6642] things that are in there, it's astronomical.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6643] Mm, quite expensive as you say ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6644] Mm, you silly dog, what are you doing, what are you doing, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, right, right, then, yeah, yeah, yeah, get him, right [laugh] oh he said that heaven
Raymond (PS0PN) [6645] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6646] yeah, you do [laugh] huh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, [laugh] ... Where's Muffin, behind the settee?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6647] Yes ... mm ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6648] Did you read this erm review about Ruby Wax?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6649] No I haven't read that yet
Margaret (PS0PP) [6650] She's is a, quite a
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6651] character actually, mind you she does er, it looks like one of those programmes you know er, when you don't want to be sitting in the front row, if she's going to
Raymond (PS0PN) [6652] Mm pick on you
Margaret (PS0PP) [6653] single, single you out for attention ... she say erm, [reading] Miss Wax who likes to think of herself now principally as a writer, [sigh] ... [laugh] ... [laugh] the comic talents of this calendar who needs laxative.

26 (Tape 030201)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6654] Come on E T, come on babe, come on, do you want to go out?
[6655] Go out?
[6656] Wait a sec, let me get my ... yeah wait a sec, let me get my coat ... ah, down ... stay down, good boy ... come on, OK, OK, you're going now, yes ... .
[6657] Taking for walkies Margaret.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6658] Mm, mm, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [6659] Are you coming? ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6660] Well if I take him you can do the veg if you like ... get down
Raymond (PS0PN) [6661] I see, I'd just thought you'd might like to go.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6662] Well I will but I doubt this, oh god I've got heap of things to do ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6663] Right lassie
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27 (Tape 030202)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6664] You wanna go to the shops now or what?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6665] You're going are you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6666] Yes ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6667] What's that?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6668] Do you need to come or
Margaret (PS0PP) [6669] Well, I think all I need is bread really isn't it?
[6670] So I
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6671] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6672] I'll keep an eye, spend your money.

28 (Tape 030203)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6673] E T won't hurt you.
[6674] Hello there, this guy is that nervous honestly, he loves other dogs, but er, they seem to frightened him, you know, he's a, till he gE Ts to know them then his OK, you know?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6675] E T, come on, he's only young your chap isn't he?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6676] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6677] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6678] I've got two of them, the other one's er cut himself on a bottle this morning, he's been in the vE T all day, he's just had
Raymond (PS0PN) [6679] Oh no
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6680] his leg stitched up.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6681] Fixed him up alright?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6682] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6683] Mm, how'd he manage that?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6684] I don't know he just somebody must of
Raymond (PS0PN) [6685] They just
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6686] left a broken bottle
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Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6687] clean cut right down the bone
Raymond (PS0PN) [6688] Oh god
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6689] so, he's out of commission for a couple of weeks.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6690] Yes, it's er infection really isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6691] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [6692] And if he's anything like this guy he's all go [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6693] Oh yes he's just like him
Raymond (PS0PN) [6694] E T will you give over, come on
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6695] You don't lE T them do you?
[6696] It's a bit
Raymond (PS0PN) [6697] He was ill treated you know, and he was
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6698] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6699] we got him from the rescue, animal rescue you know
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6700] Oh yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6701] so he's a pa , he's a bag of nerves really, but er, most of the time he's great, but, [laughing] I think your, your one's a bit too boisterous for him []
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6702] Well enough.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6703] Take care anyway, [whistling] come on E T [whistling]

29 (Tape 030204)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6704] That's right, yeah, yeah.
[6705] Oh he said er
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Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6706] Oh that's not so bad you see I've been on holiday all last week
Raymond (PS0PN) [6707] Oh, where you been?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6708] I haven't been away, but I've been off work like
Raymond (PS0PN) [6709] Oh just, oh I see
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6710] so er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6711] holiday at home?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6712] Yeah called me in two days so they gave me today and tomorrow off as well, so it's sort of gone longer than I expected you know?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6713] Mm, mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6714] I'm off tomorrow as well.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6715] Well it's always nice to be at home isn't it?
[6716] Please yourself
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6717] Get down, get down oh yeah, yeah.
[6718] I got through quite a few bits and pieces that was
Margaret (PS0PP) [6719] Have you?
[6720] All the jobs you've been meaning to do
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [6721] Yeah, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6722] Yes I know
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]

30 (Tape 030205)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6723] Hello there
Norman (PS0RD) [6724] Good afternoon
Raymond (PS0PN) [6725] how's the family?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6726] Abnormal
Raymond (PS0PN) [6727] Yeah [laugh] ... At one time we couldn't get Jessy to talk, he'd got a little girl with er and
Margaret (PS0PP) [6728] I noticed the little girl with her, yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6729] She waved as she came towards me and she said oh can't stop today
Margaret (PS0PP) [6730] Huh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6731] said I've got to get this one back for her mum or whatever ... said I'm in a hurry ... then I met some guy on the field, talking to him and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [6732] Who you don't know from Adam

31 (Tape 030206)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6733] A spaniel [sniff] which was off the lead, covered in mud a young one and of course these, this fellow went straight up to it E T
Margaret (PS0PP) [6734] Off the lead like?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6735] Off the lead and it was er, so boisterous up and down like this, well he didn't like it straight away he got the old aggro blade up his back about two inches wide
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6736] then he was watching him like this then he ran
Margaret (PS0PP) [6737] Away from it or
Raymond (PS0PN) [6738] ran away from it you see and then when he came back he came to us and he growled a few times at it, so, but erm, backed off you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6739] I said he ... he doesn't mean any harm I said but he's a bit nervous, hoping to god he didn't bite the, bite the other one
Margaret (PS0PP) [6740] Spaniel , yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6741] he said in all that, we got two he said the other one cut itself badly this morning [sniff] on er a piece of glass obvious he said managed to come back to me you know being on a lead all his leg was cut so he sort of been down to the vet and had two stitches
Margaret (PS0PP) [6742] Stitches
Raymond (PS0PN) [6743] so he said I've had to, they'd have to keep him in for ten days or more you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [6744] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6745] stop him getting dirt
Margaret (PS0PP) [6746] keep going
Raymond (PS0PN) [6747] in it or whatever
Margaret (PS0PP) [6748] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6749] Yeah , erm, it's worth waiting to
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32 (Tape 030207)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6750] I saw Mr Bentley
Margaret (PS0PP) [6751] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6752] and er he hasn't got any stuff there of course
Margaret (PS0PP) [6753] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6754] but er, he said oh try the guy
Margaret (PS0PP) [6755] Try?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6756] the chap in Mold, whatever his name is
Margaret (PS0PP) [6757] Robert .
Raymond (PS0PN) [6758] I he said, he's an old type chemist he said just mention my name he said he perhaps fix you up with small quantities or try this other place in Wrexham he said they, chemist he said but they do wholesale work as well
Margaret (PS0PP) [6759] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6760] so, and then he was going on about the work he's doing on the
Margaret (PS0PP) [6761] Yes I thought he probably would.
[6762] You were nearly at the end of the tape as well weren't you?
[6763] I thought afterwards I bet that tape would run out when you're talking to and won't be able to turn it over.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6764] Mm, I don't think so ... but er he's had an awful struggle with that because he said Buckley's one of the worse places and no interest at all
Margaret (PS0PP) [6765] Nobody's interested no, it's a shame
Raymond (PS0PN) [6766] said er , they said Wrexham they've got two or three you know mu museums for, and that different halls he said er
Margaret (PS0PP) [6767] Well, there was talk about er getting the old hall down in the old street community centre, not the, the
Raymond (PS0PN) [6768] Yes
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6769] What is it?
[6770] What do they call it that hall?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6771] Hawkesbury hall
Margaret (PS0PP) [6772] Hawkesbury hall, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [6773] by the school, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6774] but I mean it's, it's still a sound building, I mean it could be
Raymond (PS0PN) [6775] Well it's been no, no, it's, it's condemned at the moment it's not safe.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6776] Is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6777] Oh yeah, you're not allowed to go in it
Margaret (PS0PP) [6778] Oh oh they've just locked
Raymond (PS0PN) [6779] but er
Margaret (PS0PP) [6780] locked it up because er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6781] he said they've er

33 (Tape 030208)

Margaret (PS0PP) [6782] So did she say she could get some?
[6783] Or
Raymond (PS0PN) [6784] Said she'll ask, said she knows she's got
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6785] giving an errand to take out to the place you know because er if
Margaret (PS0PP) [6786] Well it's dangerous stuff to handle I suppose
Raymond (PS0PN) [6787] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6788] but as you say wanted a tiny amount anyway so
Raymond (PS0PN) [6789] it's a joke isn't it?
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6790] you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [6791] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6792] several of us at college ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6793] oh well she'll know by tomorrow night, you could her a call
Raymond (PS0PN) [6794] you would think
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6795] tell me that much
Margaret (PS0PP) [6796] Which pub?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6797] at the college?
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6798] well yes it's only a small amount for you, but er how many students are there?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6799] Well that's the thing yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6800] [laugh] You multiple that by
Raymond (PS0PN) [6801] getting in a little bit
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6802] however many there are
Raymond (PS0PN) [6803] There's about six I think
Margaret (PS0PP) [6804] Mm, even so I mean he, he's still got to buy it ain't he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6805] Even so, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6806] So er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6807] Oh they've probably got this much you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [6808] mm, I mean has he recommended that you use that
Raymond (PS0PN) [6809] he, he got
Margaret (PS0PP) [6810] or are you
Raymond (PS0PN) [6811] Oh I
Margaret (PS0PP) [6812] just taken it in out of the book?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6813] No that's what you've gotta, you, he showed us
Margaret (PS0PP) [6814] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6815] said the stuff you're using is
Margaret (PS0PP) [6816] Rubbish
Raymond (PS0PN) [6817] old fashioned he says, it's got linseed oil in it he said, how'd you get it off?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6818] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6819] You know
Margaret (PS0PP) [6820] that was the trouble you had with that table top, do you remember doing that polishing?
[6821] And that, and this, you kept getting this er
Raymond (PS0PN) [6822] Oh no you, you can use this, but you
Margaret (PS0PP) [6823] oil through
Raymond (PS0PN) [6824] don't use that for polish you use a special oil, but he says don't even use that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6825] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6826] His brief seems to be, put as little french polish on as you can
Margaret (PS0PP) [6827] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6828] put, and then wax you see, now this is what we haven't seen yet
Margaret (PS0PP) [6829] So just use wax to build up the polish
Raymond (PS0PN) [6830] waxing to, well not necessary to build it up, cos you, you've got this sealer on first you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [6831] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6832] but you can
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6833] that's what he does, but, if he want, I don't know, he have to
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6834] Yeah sort of thing, so I have heard you say only three is that the number of posts they put in?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6835] That's already done innit?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6836] Well, cos with him being on night, I don't suppose he got up till about
Raymond (PS0PN) [6837] He started just after me, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [6838] one o'clock, yeah, there, and there were huge holes in the
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6839] I mean you, you ask him if he'd erm arranged for a cement mixer and he said oh no he didn't want to bother, but I thought afterwards ... that'll be each one of those holes, he
Raymond (PS0PN) [6840] He says oh a ton what are we going to do with the
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6841] yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [6842] or
Margaret (PS0PP) [6843] well that's right, in fact he might even need more sand
Raymond (PS0PN) [6844] he will
Margaret (PS0PP) [6845] but I bet one of those holes will take a whole wheelbarrow full of that
Raymond (PS0PN) [6846] Oh easily
Margaret (PS0PP) [6847] concrete and that's got to be one mix each time isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6848] Because what I used to do is throw the bricks in and concrete and water
Margaret (PS0PP) [6849] And water
Raymond (PS0PN) [6850] erm, no I mean apart from the concrete it helps to fill the hole
Margaret (PS0PP) [6851] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [6852] so if you just put the
Margaret (PS0PP) [6853] well
Raymond (PS0PN) [6854] the sand and gravel and the concrete as you say a barrow load goes nowhere
Margaret (PS0PP) [6855] Yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6856] I mean, huh, they never get blown over, but er, it's a lot of work isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6857] Where's little tiddly gone?
[6858] Where is he by the way? [whistling]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6859] Erm I said to you he's on the settee
Raymond (PS0PN) [6860] Hello, hello, hello
Margaret (PS0PP) [6861] if he's on there just shout at him will you because
Raymond (PS0PN) [6862] oh he's in here
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6863] he's by the radiator aren't you beaut?
[6864] He's a beauty babe, oh, rascal aren't you?

34 (Tape 030209)

Raymond (PS0PN) [6865] Would give you that continuous conversation, erm where is, is life is ... it's surprising how much time you do have to put into it.
[6866] I mean it surprised me I thought oh yes
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6867] one and a half tapes a day, yeah, it's, it's a doddle, but erm, not, not only have you got to know how it functions, but you've got to know, know you've got to fill in your, your document
Margaret (PS0PP) [6868] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6869] to I mean ideally, ideally it'll be better to fill it in as you go along
Margaret (PS0PP) [6870] Personally I would of

35 (Tape 030210)

Margaret (PS0PP) [6871] Well of course that's what vitamin C is isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6872] Well acetic acid is you know the chemical
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6873] you know, it's got to be three third, er thirty three percent you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [6874] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6875] which the vinegar's only about two percent probably that
Margaret (PS0PP) [6876] oh my god, well that's the stripper then really isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6877] You're only, you only
Margaret (PS0PP) [6878] Well you only put
Raymond (PS0PN) [6879] putting that much in
Margaret (PS0PP) [6880] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [6881] in this, in like a pint
Margaret (PS0PP) [6882] Mm, so you only want a small amount then really don't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6883] That's the trouble, I don't need a ruddy gallon
Margaret (PS0PP) [6884] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6885] and the other of course is the eight eighty ammonia which is only half of five mil, two and a half mil teaspoon.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6886] Which chemist did you go to?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6887] Bob's
Margaret (PS0PP) [6888] Oh, and neither of them, no E T will you stop it you two, you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [6889] Aye
Margaret (PS0PP) [6890] get in your basket this minute
Raymond (PS0PN) [6891] I thought, I thought the other one had got it
Margaret (PS0PP) [6892] go on , go on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6893] When you think of it, these chemists to date, no wonder their wives are on a low wage and the moaning all the time because they're not bloody chemists, they're just getting pills out of a box
Margaret (PS0PP) [6894] Yeah, that's right , yes, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6895] you don't see erm doing this [...] but, well after that, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [6896] and er, well years ago they had all these bottle of potions on the back shelf I suppose
Raymond (PS0PN) [6897] they were mixing up all the time, it's all antibiotics now and isn't it tablets or
Margaret (PS0PP) [6898] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6899] bottles of
Margaret (PS0PP) [6900] already, ready mix
Raymond (PS0PN) [6901] There's a jar already done, you just pour it in
Margaret (PS0PP) [6902] Yeah, I suppose and mostly to erm, medicines are, are in tablet form aren't they?
[6903] You know you don't get that many liquids it's usually for children isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6904] Ninety percent probably
Margaret (PS0PP) [6905] The erm you get
Raymond (PS0PN) [6906] The only liquid you get are probably cough medicines and stuff like that and
Margaret (PS0PP) [6907] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [6908] which are all, er what they called?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6909] I bet they don't dispense much of that now because most people buy it over the counter don't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6910] Oh their own, yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [6911] I mean you're not going to spend three pound forty on a prescription if you can get a bottle for about one pound fifty ... so
Raymond (PS0PN) [6912] where you do it
Margaret (PS0PP) [6913] so well where you gonna go for that?
[6914] Where else can you try?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6915] Er well I was gonna ask for
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6916] when he comes, gonna ask or ask
Margaret (PS0PP) [6917] At the college do you mean?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6918] They seem to know about it, the ones who live in that area ... and
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6919] the chemist
Margaret (PS0PP) [6920] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6921] he's an old fashioned type
Margaret (PS0PP) [6922] Well why don't you try Mr Bentley I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [6923] He's bloody finished now
Margaret (PS0PP) [6924] Well the shop's closed, but erm, he might be able to tell you somewhere nearer than
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [6925] to get it, I mean he's very obliging.
[6926] He lives over the shop still doesn't he?
[6927] Or at the back of the shop.
[6928] He's a proper character isn't he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6929] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6930] But erm he might be able to er oblige you, he was certainly one of the last of the old breed of chemists I think
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6931] a tissue in machine, bits dropping in and out
Raymond (PS0PN) [6932] Look in the pockets you great pi , oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [6933] I think there's probably one inside a pillow case knowing you
Raymond (PS0PN) [6934] Oh jesus, Maggots ... I caught a few
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6935] there might be a fiver in one of them
Margaret (PS0PP) [6936] [laugh] You've got no chance of that
Raymond (PS0PN) [6937] Hey did you know this
Margaret (PS0PP) [6938] Yes ... oh god ... Muffin you're not going out again you're covered in mud.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6939] I suppose they get fed up stuck in all the time, don't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6940] Yeah, and they're only out for a few minutes and they're fed up out there as well, and backwards and forwards like a fiddlers elbow ... go on ... I want to put those lupins in
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6941] today, somewhere ... never mind, no, you're not having any more biscuits you ... Right I erm, I see it's ten past eleven, I want to get this ball washed, so, er, let them go in the wash
Raymond (PS0PN) [6942] Right I'm going to work in the workshop

36 (Tape 030211)

Margaret (PS0PP) [6943] I'll tell you what, I get the erm, I get the battery of the, the other one, you can try it.
[6944] You want to try it don't you if you're going to have it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6945] Well this is it, it might be knackered now those two ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6946] Has he been in the, in the loft in the workshop?
[6947] Or
Raymond (PS0PN) [6948] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6949] Well you, it's not corroded or anything is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6950] Let's turn that down
Margaret (PS0PP) [6951] Can't turn it out.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6952] Power isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6953] Yes, but you won't get the same connections will you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6954] I don't know
Margaret (PS0PP) [6955] Use your
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6956] Fantastic that
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6957] pause ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6958] [humming] [singing] I'm looking for something somewhere [] ... Yes, well it appears to be working, but whether it's working correctly I don't know oh ... Ray, there is provision here for the headphones, you, you said are you supposed to use headphones with it, mind you ... it sounds pretty audible anyway, I don't think you need headphones, I mean I'm not sure there's a
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6959] No
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6960] See how she goes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [6961] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6962] Thing is I've got to try by turning those volts down on some of them
Margaret (PS0PP) [6963] Yeah it's just that find out if there's any nails in the, in the wood.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6964] Possibly have
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6965] stones
Margaret (PS0PP) [6966] You're not likely to get stones em embedded in the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [6967] Oh ... I mean whether, whether that one is, is good enough for
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Raymond (PS0PN) [6968] enough
Margaret (PS0PP) [6969] Mm, and it
Raymond (PS0PN) [6970] the nails in the wood that's all
Margaret (PS0PP) [6971] Oh yes it's, it's, how long ago was it when Robin bought that?
[6972] Eleven or twelve wasn't he?
[6973] Near that ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [6974] Say this er I think
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6975] mm
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Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh] ...

37 (Tape 030212)

Margaret (PS0PP) [6976] Have you actually got a plan drawn up with measurements, devised to the top and the base as well or are you going to do that when you
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [6977] I got the height of the base, you've seen that
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6978] yes, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [6979] Use that for the base obviously
Margaret (PS0PP) [6980] Muffin be quiet, what the devil's wrong with him?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6981] it's that much bigger so, you know just see how the top one goes and then I can copy that to the bottom
Margaret (PS0PP) [6982] Yeah, well you're going to do the base of it bigger aren't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [6983] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [6984] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [6985] er the only, I'm not quite sure yet how the sides are going to
Margaret (PS0PP) [6986] and the door , the glass door he wanted it erm like the lead glass, oh similar to these
Raymond (PS0PN) [6987] Yes I know he wants it erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [6988] you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [6989] glazing bars
Margaret (PS0PP) [6990] Mm
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6991] there's no way we could use it either of those, panels that were the glass panels that we've got in the garage, no, separate them, I mean it,
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Margaret (PS0PP) [6992] they're not, they're not solid glass, they're two panes, which could be separated whether of ingenuity and
Raymond (PS0PN) [6993] What re-cut you mean?
Margaret (PS0PP) [6994] Well no not, not, well we could get them, I never thought of that
Raymond (PS0PN) [6995] Cut them they wouldn't be the exact size
Margaret (PS0PP) [6996] yes, ah that's a point now, I could take them down to erm, what's his name down the road and ask him, he's very obliging, ask him to cut them
Raymond (PS0PN) [6997] I don't know it depends er
Margaret (PS0PP) [6998] I was just thinking rather than having plain which you'd have to pay for anyway a plain piece of glass and, and er putting lead on it yourself ... I think that's a brilliant idea that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [6999] Well the idea is, is it's not so much the lead
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7000] it suppose to be the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7001] bars, I don't know what they look like without
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7002] old, old er
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7003] it's a diamond , it's a diamond pattern isn't it for
Raymond (PS0PN) [7004] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7005] as opposed to the, but, but some cupboard doors are diamond pattern, Muffin will you be quiet ... have we any more bones cooked for them or have they had them all?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7006] No there's some there
Margaret (PS0PP) [7007] Cooked?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7008] oh that's what I mean, erm, well listen we'd better try and just, practice somehow and see erm
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7009] what do you
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7010] erm ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [7011] Are you gonna left that battery on
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7012] well, well only temporarily, I only want this
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7013] it's alright it's just this unit thing, when connected to
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7014] right erm, just erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7015] It just drops in there doesn't it, hanging
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7016] oh I would of thought there was a rest for it surely, no?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7017] Do you think so?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7018] Just down the bottom
Raymond (PS0PN) [7019] Just down the bottom ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [7020] Right ... what you're going to have to do is erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7021] Get a piece of wood with a nail in it
Margaret (PS0PP) [7022] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7023] I tell you what get a hold of that and put something underneath it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7024] I don't know, it don't seem to react to that, that's a bit, mind you there again there's only going to be that there isn't it?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7025] Er, well, put it on the floor
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7026] [dog barking] Go in your basket go on

38 (Tape 030213)

Norman (PS0RD) [7027] Yes, I cannot give it much more
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7028] re-allocated, I might be able to get the two sides on, but I'll need more, obvious have some more wide bolts for the er top and the bottom
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7029] So er, what you actually got to have it cut now, what have you?
Norman (PS0RD) [7030] Those four
Margaret (PS0PP) [7031] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [7032] to that section of the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7033] oh these are about two inch are they or some, didn't say
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7034] it wouldn't split in half went for it and
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7035] Twelve inches across are they?
[7036] That way
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7037] They seemed quite wide to me when they were leaning against the wall.
[7038] Wouldn't Sue do them?
Norman (PS0RD) [7039] She hasn't got a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7040] hasn't she?
[7041] I bet she had, I bet she had er
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7042] no I know she's got a
Norman (PS0RD) [7043] You really want one with a three
Margaret (PS0PP) [7044] I thought she had a band saw no
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7045] I was gonna say you wobbling all over the place aren't you?
[7046] And what about Duckman Peters wouldn't they do it for you?
Norman (PS0RD) [7047] Er, mm, the other time I took stuff down there
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7048] huge, to that their costs mm
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Norman (PS0RD) [7049] I'll have to pay
Margaret (PS0PP) [7050] mm you've got to pay for the teeth and the saw
Norman (PS0RD) [7051] thirty pound a tooth
Margaret (PS0PP) [7052] Yeah, god worse than
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7053] erm
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7054] mm, how many have you got to now cut?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7055] and you mean to tell me with all that equipment the machine that they've got at the college, you couldn't get it done there?
Norman (PS0RD) [7056] I haven't got anything that deep, the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7057] only goes to about five inches
Margaret (PS0PP) [7058] What can you do, can you do half at a time, can you
Norman (PS0RD) [7059] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [7060] Why?
Norman (PS0RD) [7061] at one time you could of done, but now, you've got to take the guards off
Margaret (PS0PP) [7062] To reverse them
Norman (PS0RD) [7063] and turn it over
Margaret (PS0PP) [7064] Well I don't see how, all you've got to do is turn it upside down, you could still run it through the same way
Norman (PS0RD) [7065] To make your first cut
Margaret (PS0PP) [7066] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [7067] you have to take the guard off and the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7068] knife at the back of the saw, they, it is a bit dangerous, erm ... where's the guard goes at the top
Margaret (PS0PP) [7069] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [7070] just wouldn't go in would it, unless it's being stood right down
Margaret (PS0PP) [7071] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [7072] cut turn half way, the first cut, then turn it over with, you've got to have all the, just got a bit of the bare blade on the bench you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [7073] Yeah without a guard on it
Norman (PS0RD) [7074] without a guard and they won't
Margaret (PS0PP) [7075] mm, mm
Norman (PS0RD) [7076] allow that on this stand
Margaret (PS0PP) [7077] No I can understand that I suppose
Norman (PS0RD) [7078] but there again it's only hand feed, you've, you got to have a, a machine that can feed on to take this tubing
Margaret (PS0PP) [7079] Something to grip it, mm
Norman (PS0RD) [7080] We would have to like pull the wood through you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [7081] what about that erm, what about that other place that er timber place on the way to Kilkern erm we went there, you, oh you went in to ask about some walnut, do you remember when er
Norman (PS0RD) [7082] Well er that's the same, that would be worth thinking this you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [7083] don't think you'd be very happy you know
Norman (PS0RD) [7084] I mean you wouldn't wanna pay ... no be only worth a fiver to cut it, to them it's not worth
Margaret (PS0PP) [7085] Damaging them, saw, mm
Norman (PS0RD) [7086] Well at least we've had a look at the whether we
Margaret (PS0PP) [7087] right OK, so we've eliminated all that have we?
Norman (PS0RD) [7088] Well I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [7089] What are you gonna do?
Norman (PS0RD) [7090] I don't know
Margaret (PS0PP) [7091] It's impossible to do by hand ...
Norman (PS0RD) [7092] No not impossible
Margaret (PS0PP) [7093] with a good saw
Norman (PS0RD) [7094] Yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7095] and about ten irish navvies
Norman (PS0RD) [7096] One down below and one above huh
Margaret (PS0PP) [7097] mm ...

39 (Tape 030214)

Raymond (PS0PN) [7098] Try to get some er old door casings rip down from me you know, now, I was thinking of going to North Wales but I know what they'd say cos it, the ones that I got from our Rob's you know the ... they're quite clean but of course they've had nails in the, you know, the head like ... I made the cab some cabinets you know.
Norman (PS0RD) [7099] I want them split down that road
Raymond (PS0PN) [7100] Which way?
Norman (PS0RD) [7101] On the deep
Raymond (PS0PN) [7102] Oh on the deep
Norman (PS0RD) [7103] two or three gorges
Raymond (PS0PN) [7104] Oh you want to fetch it down to a board technic
Norman (PS0RD) [7105] That's so I can get two out of the one you know for the sides, erm, sides and
Raymond (PS0PN) [7106] Oh you want them to deep, deep, deep [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7107] I don't think I'm gonna get that much joy myself, cos their reluctant aren't they to do anything that's not new.
[7108] I thought there might be somewhere where they'd have an old circular saw you know, probably got a bit more chance with help, but they do a bit of rough cutting do you know what I mean?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7109] Yeah, but you won't get two out of it will you?
[7110] But
Norman (PS0RD) [7111] Well they're only for sides, you know, I'm, I'm doing them like er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7112] I
Norman (PS0RD) [7113] the sides are coming out er like this you see
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7114] those, those are already you know like that their fortunate with those
Raymond (PS0PN) [7115] I, I like them
Norman (PS0RD) [7116] but, but I haven't got enough you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [7117] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [7118] but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7119] you won't get two that size will you?
Norman (PS0RD) [7120] You reckon not, not with the cut, it's, well not that I know it's, it's got two
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Norman (PS0RD) [7121] it is a good er about one and five eighths
Raymond (PS0PN) [7122] Oh I say, yeah, you, well, you'll get one, you'll get a second one there, full one there
Norman (PS0RD) [7123] Get a full one, get it doesn't matter really and I get one that width out of
Raymond (PS0PN) [7124] Yeah, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [7125] here you see and it'll all be joined up.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7126] It's, it's a band saw really that you want to put down
Norman (PS0RD) [7127] Mm, they're not really safe
Raymond (PS0PN) [7128] Yeah,
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7129] a band saw are you now are you?
Norman (PS0RD) [7130] I got the old metal detected on, but, of course it could always be a bit of grit in it couldn't it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7131] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [7132] or something like that.
[7133] I know they don't like it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7134] No, er, no especially with a band saw, cos
Margaret (PS0PP) [7135] Oh hello
Norman (PS0RD) [7136] Hello Margaret, well
Raymond (PS0PN) [7137] twenty years ago and, and, and they really had to
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7138] and the whole band saw gotta to be resharpened he said and they go to a place in
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7139] Most of them don't do their own now do they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7140] No
Norman (PS0RD) [7141] We used to have a shop you know, a saw doctor shop
Raymond (PS0PN) [7142] I
Norman (PS0RD) [7143] when I had the time, did them all tension and set, you know, but erm, as you say now, they probably cost you about fifty pound a go every time they go away
Raymond (PS0PN) [7144] Yeah it's a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7145] I don't fancy doing by hand
Norman (PS0RD) [7146] Well, even that little one of mine
Raymond (PS0PN) [7147] No I mean even with a hand saw, you know, I've done it before
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7148] You had to wait, wait about twenty eight before you went on top I believe I don't know
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7149] Yes, yes, oh yes
Norman (PS0RD) [7150] and er all his brothers ev , every one of them went, they served their time and
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7151] and er, it was er, the others were by having the lads and getting the trees down, er the extra wood that they got out of the er, out of the tree
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7152] they lost so many with, with the thickness of the blade
Raymond (PS0PN) [7153] Oh I see, yes, yes, yeah, yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7154] that's right, yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7155] I think
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7156] bloody hell, that must of been hard work that, they must of been at it all day
Norman (PS0RD) [7157] Yeah, yeah
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7158] How did they keep, how did they stop the flaming thing from snaking them all, you know?
Norman (PS0RD) [7159] I don't know
Raymond (PS0PN) [7160] It must of had a good iron in it.
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7161] Must of had terrific arms on them, oh dear me
Norman (PS0RD) [7162] Yeah and I used to see them many a times in
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7163] and what they'd leave them to what, then to, to dry wouldn't they at least?
Norman (PS0RD) [7164] Oh I, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7165] They'd take a long time to dry wouldn't they, then, on the sticks and that
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7166] stacks of it
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7167] and my father was in the woods before the war and they, he, he looked after the woods and cut the trees down and everything and then they were sent to
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7168] Oh no, slowly, dried slowly you see
Norman (PS0RD) [7169] Slowly to dry it was always as, as he went up to about a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7170] for pupation, yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7171] I'd like to seen how they did the, the ribbon book out of the heart
Norman (PS0RD) [7172] Oh yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [7173] used to do a lot of drawer bottoms out of it
Norman (PS0RD) [7174] yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [7175] must of had a knife or something to it, sliced wasn't it?
[7176] ... Mind you I'm going, I've got a pub
Norman (PS0RD) [7177] Nice to see there, there was a certain way of cutting the tree
Raymond (PS0PN) [7178] this is going back
Norman (PS0RD) [7179] to get the figure into it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7180] I, a cut
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7181] on the diagonal
Norman (PS0RD) [7182] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [7183] you see, a diagonal, the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7184] raise so you've got a lovely figure in the, on the oak,
Norman (PS0RD) [7185] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7186] but expensive that was
Norman (PS0RD) [7187] yeah that's right
Raymond (PS0PN) [7188] cutting waste with it, as I say the ribbon stuff it must it, the georgian furniture you usually see that in
Norman (PS0RD) [7189] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7190] this wide drawer bottoms you know, beautiful oak that's been sliced
Norman (PS0RD) [7191] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7192] because that, presumably the heart was easier to cut, I don't know, very hard
Norman (PS0RD) [7193] I wouldn't of thought so, it was
Raymond (PS0PN) [7194] I wouldn't of thought so
Norman (PS0RD) [7195] the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7196] I'll have to find out of this
Norman (PS0RD) [7197] where, where I found more so were
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7198] that's the oldest part isn't it?
Norman (PS0RD) [7199] That's the oldest part
Raymond (PS0PN) [7200] That's right on the knife
Norman (PS0RD) [7201] and the er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7202] whether the grain was straighter, maybe that was the answer
Norman (PS0RD) [7203] and the awkward thing was to hack a wood in the centre
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7204] Yeah that's right, yeah, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [7205] An American oak is not too bad
Raymond (PS0PN) [7206] But the English you can end up doing a lot of scrapping for your finish
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7207] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [7208] and it's just only because of the climate, there's er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7209] Cold weather, the, oh, is that what it was?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7210] That's right, yeah, he's, he's
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7211] Mm, mm, funny there was a lad here
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7212] this chap was here last week he bought this pine table up, got his key, and he'd been working for three years in Norway
Norman (PS0RD) [7213] Oh yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7214] as a joiner
Norman (PS0RD) [7215] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7216] and he was saying, told me some of the different names, you know, other than pine, I suppose their name for whatever these pines were, the timber there was beautiful
Norman (PS0RD) [7217] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7218] the er
Norman (PS0RD) [7219] all the
Raymond (PS0PN) [7220] knots, very few knots, just lovely yellow pine and er and they make all their furniture out of these pieces, so, he said that's what set me off on making furniture he said
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7221] say that the cost of living there tremendous, tremendous
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7222] ten years ago now they took out these tremendous mortgages because their wages had trebled, it, it about a ten year period, you know when the boom was on
Norman (PS0RD) [7223] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7224] a few years ago, and he said er there was a lot of repossessions there.
Norman (PS0RD) [7225] It's happening everywhere you see.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7226] You could buy a house very cheaply then, but er
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7227] we, we didn't know what was going to happen
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7228] that's not all you can do now is blame the Labour Party, it's incredible now.
[7229] One of them said er
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7230] when they start bringing the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7231] yes, yes that's right, lower
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7232] lowering the taxes
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7233] Everybody come here, this is the place to run a big business
Norman (PS0RD) [7234] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7235] cheap labour
Norman (PS0RD) [7236] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7237] you can fiddle all you want, get away with it, er
Norman (PS0RD) [7238] I
Raymond (PS0PN) [7239] Well Nor you can't help me on this me old son
Norman (PS0RD) [7240] Er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7241] it's a shame really, no he bought about erm
Norman (PS0RD) [7242] I'm not even gonna volunteer to do
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7243] about erm ten of these and then the head

40 (Tape 030301)

Raymond (PS0PN) [7244] So apart from those three we said what else is there Ma
Molly (PS0RE) [7245] No, well he's got a catalogue and we can send
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7246] No, that, that catalogue he had I rang them and he
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7247] sent me one
Raymond (PS0PN) [7248] Beeswax was it?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7249] Pure beeswax, what else?
[7250] I bet that was a
Molly (PS0RE) [7251] It was pure restoration materials
Margaret (PS0PP) [7252] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [7253] I've forgotten now
Margaret (PS0PP) [7254] I'm sure that's where he said he got it from the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7255] wax
Molly (PS0RE) [7256] He said he got his waxes fifteen years ago and he's still using them
Margaret (PS0PP) [7257] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [7258] I think he gets all his stuff from that guy at, he got the brochure didn't he from somewhere up North?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7259] Yes, well Molly's just said she's rung them
Molly (PS0RE) [7260] Well yeah, well I've got the brochure
Raymond (PS0PN) [7261] Oh
Norman (PS0RD) [7262] I rang them up, it's, it's Bolton, but they don't do
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [7263] wax, they do all the other waxes
Margaret (PS0PP) [7264] Bury isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7265] Well I'd try Time and
Margaret (PS0PP) [7266] Bury the one?
Norman (PS0RD) [7267] They caught , I don't, yeah actually
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7268] the address I had
Norman (PS0RD) [7269] Yes.
[7270] Oh well I'll, I'll look, I'll ring I didn't actually ring
Raymond (PS0PN) [7271] I'll find out anyway
Norman (PS0RD) [7272] them up and ask them
Raymond (PS0PN) [7273] and actually you know this Time Chemicals, they, they deliver you know, they come here with the stuff.
Norman (PS0RD) [7274] Do they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7275] Just ring them up, oh yeah, they go anywhere.
Norman (PS0RD) [7276] What is the recipe I
Margaret (PS0PP) [7277] Bury ,, Bury
Norman (PS0RD) [7278] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7279] That's a good one isn't it, dear me, that's er
Norman (PS0RD) [7280] Oh no, but, they, they will post it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7281] Post it, but then they're gonna charge aren't they?
Norman (PS0RD) [7282] Oh yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7283] VAT and for a small amount it's not worth it really

41 (Tape 030302)

Molly (PS0RE) [7284] One of the dogs gone down there?
[7285] I am sick and tired of picking up the mud
Raymond (PS0PN) [7286] Hello Ken
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Molly (PS0RE) [7287] Oh, we're trying to see if any pick up the nails in the wall, you know
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7288] those boards trying to get them split down you see to make some, you know, shelves and that
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Molly (PS0RE) [7289] No, not really
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7290] Does it work?
Molly (PS0RE) [7291] It's got the battery in it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7292] Well I'm not sure really it didn't seem to go to good on the cast iron nails you know the long ones
Ken (PS0RC) [7293] Yeah
Molly (PS0RE) [7294] It's alright on the on the erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7295] Well I don't know until the, when it comes to college you've got a hand one
John (PS0RF) [7296] That's what I was gonna say
Molly (PS0RE) [7297] Yeah it's a, it must be a sensitive one you see
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7298] but er
Ken (PS0RC) [7299] Yeah
Molly (PS0RE) [7300] But erm, not reliable enough on that anyway
Raymond (PS0PN) [7301] So anyway Norm mentioned about going to this one at erm Old Tammy, that one on the Old Road
John (PS0RF) [7302] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7303] he said try there, they've got some old wood he said, well perhaps they're used to cutting all stuff
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7304] Oh
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7305] oh dear then you will be
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7306] whether you'll get that rate
Raymond (PS0PN) [7307] You're not very choosy
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7308] money for them sort of things
Ken (PS0RC) [7309] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7310] that's the way I look at it.
[7311] There's no other way
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7312] No, no, no, he does so many days Ken
Ken (PS0RC) [7313] Is he full time or what?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Molly (PS0RE) [7314] What?
[7315] Is who full time?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Molly (PS0RE) [7316] He can't be full time otherwise he wouldn't have enough to do would he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7317] I don't know perhaps he does, I don't actually know Ken, I thought the way he was talking though that this chap
Molly (PS0RE) [7318] No, it's, it's so many days that they work innit?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7319] had actually taken him on that he used to know years ago and had finished the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7320] Oh he's finished the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7321] I know it's a couple of years ago before he came here
Ken (PS0RC) [7322] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [7323] but this chap he's known for years
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7324] mention the name
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7325] he gave him a job, er
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7326] erm, but I mean I, I was given to believe he was full time he never said oh it's so many days
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7327] cost I think that

42 (Tape 030303)

Raymond (PS0PN) [7328] Let's have a look
Ken (PS0RC) [7329] Now there's this place up, remember that
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7330] French polish
Ken (PS0RC) [7331] it's got a big order
Raymond (PS0PN) [7332] right, erm , where's this beeswax?
[7333] ... They're all in one together
Ken (PS0RC) [7334] er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7335] It's the same one, is it, are the, is that an update?
Ken (PS0RC) [7336] That's the different prices
Raymond (PS0PN) [7337] Oh these are, I see, yes, yes, yes
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [7338] Brunches, no, ah it'd be a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7339] That's three seventy eight for five hundred grammes, and five hundred grammes is just over a pound.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7340] Five oh, oh that's not bad.
Ken (PS0RC) [7341] It is low, it's a pound and a tenth
Raymond (PS0PN) [7342] It can't be right fourteen pound a pound can it?
[7343] That's wrong
Ken (PS0RC) [7344] A kilo's five fifty
Raymond (PS0PN) [7345] Perhaps he meant five hundred pounds you think or whatever
Ken (PS0RC) [7346] Don't know
Raymond (PS0PN) [7347] erm
Ken (PS0RC) [7348] a mahogany cost so much more
Raymond (PS0PN) [7349] a mahogany, oh gee whiz
Ken (PS0RC) [7350] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7351] but she said that they were the same price
Ken (PS0RC) [7352] Oh no
Raymond (PS0PN) [7353] but erm,
Ken (PS0RC) [7354] she's got mixed up
Raymond (PS0PN) [7355] good grief what is that I wonder?
Ken (PS0RC) [7356] I don't know, fifty pence
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7357] gee, grief, that's six times as much , you'd have to have something for brown stains wouldn't you, you couldn't just use them er hand like, but, but is brown mind you but erm ...
Ken (PS0RC) [7358] Pittance
Raymond (PS0PN) [7359] What about the erm,be you know beeswax, beeswax have you got that?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7360] yeah it's in here
Raymond (PS0PN) [7361] There you are, oh that's a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7362] one that's made up
Ken (PS0RC) [7363] Here we are
Raymond (PS0PN) [7364] Oh yes
Ken (PS0RC) [7365] I said the grey colour is alright
Raymond (PS0PN) [7366] That's the one we want is it?
Ken (PS0RC) [7367] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7368] That's half a kilo, six eighty
Ken (PS0RC) [7369] but we found that the yellow was purified, you know, it's, it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [7370] What about the oth the erm , what is it the pure
Ken (PS0RC) [7371] beeswax
Raymond (PS0PN) [7372] He just says beeswax doesn't he in his
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7373] yeah yellow beeswax
Raymond (PS0PN) [7374] Yellow is it?
[7375] I see, yes, yes
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7376] er and, and what about the paraffin?
Ken (PS0RC) [7377] And the paraffin ones , little colour
Raymond (PS0PN) [7378] That's cheap
Ken (PS0RC) [7379] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7380] Oh well ... oh well I think that er would be a good proportion to er Morell's, but then we got to, anyway, excuse me I must go somewhere.

43 (Tape 030304)

Margaret (PS0PP) [7381] Hello you Lucy-woosy, hello there Lucy-woosy, yeah, ooh, you're a lovely girl you ... oop
Raymond (PS0PN) [7382] Right I want all that lot cut up for
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7383] Right so all you need is a good saw and a ha , ten Irish navvies.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7384] Ah I done this
Margaret (PS0PP) [7385] I said
Raymond (PS0PN) [7386] I said to Norm I cut some walnut not, not that long of course from the deep ...
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Ken (PS0RC) [7387] Did he do it?
[7388] He didn't do it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7389] No, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [7390] He, he had a lot of machinery actually years ago he, before he moved here he sold
Raymond (PS0PN) [7391] Oh Norm yes at his old place, he had er
Margaret (PS0PP) [7392] He sold er most of it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7393] three machines a great big saw and
Margaret (PS0PP) [7394] because he didn't have the room for it here
Raymond (PS0PN) [7395] and all this but er
Margaret (PS0PP) [7396] he had a
Raymond (PS0PN) [7397] business
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Ken (PS0RC) [7398] Well when he had it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7399] He's got a lot to do now you see
Ken (PS0RC) [7400] when you've done it all, I suppose you could get a bit further with his
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7401] yeah but he's got to the stage now as if yeah he's not gonna do a lot, whatever he did before at home I'm not sure but er he's done all his windows and stuff like that but I think then again he can do a lot at work you see.
Ken (PS0RC) [7402] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7403] Cutting and all this
Ken (PS0RC) [7404] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7405] there's the machine, he done it, bring it home and assemble it so, not too much on the heavy side.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7406] Yeah, but I mean he's done all his windows hasn't he, he's adapted all his windows from that er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7407] Yeah, oh yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7408] from that frame he's bought, so he's done quite well really
Raymond (PS0PN) [7409] Yeah ... eh we could have a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7410] ah?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7411] with you underneath
Ken (PS0RC) [7412] I'll hold the saw, I wouldn't push it
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7413] oh one of those pits yeah [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7414] There's no need for the pits, we can have a series of trestle
Ken (PS0RC) [7415] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7416] out in the fresh air and have to
Ken (PS0RC) [7417] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7418] had to blow the dust off you
Ken (PS0RC) [7419] I
Raymond (PS0PN) [7420] well, and Margaret could even go [blowing]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7421] Yes, I'm good at that
Raymond (PS0PN) [7422] every time I done the down stroke
Ken (PS0RC) [7423] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [7424] Sounds a bit
Raymond (PS0PN) [7425] like that idea?
Ken (PS0RC) [7426] Eh?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7427] Do you like that?
Ken (PS0RC) [7428] I like that idea of that, but er get somebody else underneath [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7429] Get another volunteer
Ken (PS0RC) [7430] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7431] Dogs
Ken (PS0RC) [7432] get the dogs
Raymond (PS0PN) [7433] there's a system there with a, a bone, every time you move that you'd move a bone and they'd go down
Ken (PS0RC) [7434] They'd have to go down to the
Raymond (PS0PN) [7435] the one on the top
Ken (PS0RC) [7436] they keep pulling back up, you wouldn't have to strained any energy going back up ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [7437] Have you got your grandchildren Easter eggs yet chaps?
Ken (PS0RC) [7438] Er, I sent some money down for Bethan and Kaylie
Margaret (PS0PP) [7439] Yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7440] er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7441] I just wondered if you'd remember, you know
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Ken (PS0RC) [7442] when I sent Bethan her birthday card down there, I sent some money for her
Margaret (PS0PP) [7443] Yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7444] and I sent some money for, but I mentioned it to Peter
Margaret (PS0PP) [7445] Yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7446] before they went back, and er, I can't remember whether I told them to get one or whether they should be up for Easter.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7447] Well they could, they're moving up here aren't they
Ken (PS0RC) [7448] Yeah, so
Margaret (PS0PP) [7449] time, so ...
Ken (PS0RC) [7450] I tell you what I can't do, I can't find, I can't find Charles' birthday on me calendar
Margaret (PS0PP) [7451] Oh, well I said
Raymond (PS0PN) [7452] This is the other thing you've got to start remembering innit Marg?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7453] when we were at Carrie's at the weekend I said you must tell me all the birthdays again, because I can't find them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7454] I don't even remember to look at the calendar
Ken (PS0RC) [7455] Oh well, I, I, I mean I, my mind, my memory is going I know, but I, but I look at that and I turn it over each month and I have a look at I have an idea what's
Margaret (PS0PP) [7456] What's coming up that month.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7457] Once you've got to do it, then you do it
Margaret (PS0PP) [7458] Good idea actually
Raymond (PS0PN) [7459] but if you leave it to somebody else well you never done.
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7460] Well I'm, I'm the same, I was talking to Rob the other day and er, I forget how I mentioned it, but I said something about, oh I think it's because I was saying why don't you come up like this week because he's off this week, and er, he was making some excuse or other, oh I've got three weeks off in the summer, oh I'd sooner come up when I've got this longest spell off, you know, and I want to get this chimney done and blah, blah
Ken (PS0RC) [7461] Hope he's not coming for three weeks
Margaret (PS0PP) [7462] so I said something about last week, you see, and I could of, it was my birthday last week and, but er, and I carried on, he said oh go , oh I'm sorry mum, I'm sorry about that and I said don't matter, doesn't matter [laugh] , well I thought, right I'll let him know [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7463] Fancy telling him that
Margaret (PS0PP) [7464] Yeah, he's got, he's got all the birthdays on his calendar
Ken (PS0RC) [7465] He should remember , he should
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7466] I mean , he does sort of ask about the er
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7467] he's got them all written down
Raymond (PS0PN) [7468] How many lads at that age remember?
Ken (PS0RC) [7469] yeah , you
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7470] I never used to, you used to?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7471] I did, I always remembered my mum's cos it's St Patrick's day
Raymond (PS0PN) [7472] Mm, you
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7473] anyway, when your mum was alive
Ken (PS0RC) [7474] How did?
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7475] Who did?
Ken (PS0RC) [7476] No, I always remembered me mother's birthday.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7477] I've forgotten what day it was now, what was my mum's birthday?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7478] I've no idea
Ken (PS0RC) [7479] Eleventh of January
Raymond (PS0PN) [7480] Was it?
[7481] Oh your mum's
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7482] I was gonna say, how does he know that?
Ken (PS0RC) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7483] No Ken didn't know your mother's birthday Raymond
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7484] What are you like?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7485] You wouldn't of known that
Ken (PS0RC) [7486] My father did have a bike actually
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7487] it was before your time I reckon
Margaret (PS0PP) [7488] Oh dear
Ken (PS0RC) [7489] Yes it was a bit before my time
Raymond (PS0PN) [7490] Paul's in December, Fonz is er August
Margaret (PS0PP) [7491] no
Raymond (PS0PN) [7492] Rob's is August
Margaret (PS0PP) [7493] Rob's is August, yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [laugh]
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7494] Sixth of August is Robin, it's only a week after yours, it should be easy to remember
Raymond (PS0PN) [7495] Yeah, oh I don't know
Ken (PS0RC) [7496] Well you've changed yours so many times
Margaret (PS0PP) [7497] Well it, I can't, I'm always getting mixed up you know, whether it's the twenty ninth or the thirty
Ken (PS0RC) [7498] Well he reckons it's the thirty first now
Raymond (PS0PN) [7499] Oh well he's moved on a day then
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Ken (PS0RC) [7500] I wished you'd make up your mind
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Ken (PS0RC) [7501] I've altered it on our calendar that many times
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7502] What for?
Ken (PS0RC) [7503] What for, you cheeky swine
Margaret (PS0PP) [7504] You always get a card
Ken (PS0RC) [7505] If I didn't remind, remember your birthday nobody will.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7506] I'd let it go by and
Ken (PS0RC) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7507] No chance of doing that
Ken (PS0RC) [7508] That was when you couldn't speak, was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7509] Yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7510] Ah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7511] Wouldn't say
Ken (PS0RC) [7512] no you wouldn't say a word
Margaret (PS0PP) [7513] All I've got
Ken (PS0RC) [7514] you'd, you'd, you wouldn't say a word on your birthday you'd let everybody know well in advance
Margaret (PS0PP) [7515] The week before yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7516] and keep mentioning it, so as they couldn't forget.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7517] Loads of presents
Ken (PS0RC) [7518] That's one birthday you never forget
Margaret (PS0PP) [7519] Small but an expensive present please
Raymond (PS0PN) [7520] Oh big and expensive if you want
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Ken (PS0RC) [7521] no as long as it's expensive
Raymond (PS0PN) [7522] Quantity and quality that's what I
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7523] What do you have Bertie eh?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7524] Oh it's nice
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Ken (PS0RC) [7525] But you've just said one big one
Margaret (PS0PP) [7526] Yours a
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7527] yes, yes, go on
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7528] Yeah you can tell he's not eating now
Margaret (PS0PP) [7529] Why?
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7530] Oh shut up.
Ken (PS0RC) [7531] I've had nothing to eat today
Raymond (PS0PN) [7532] Why not?
Ken (PS0RC) [7533] a couple of biscuits, that's all I've had
Raymond (PS0PN) [7534] er,
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7535] Why, have you had an upset tummy?
Ken (PS0RC) [7536] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [7537] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [7538] you've forgot
Ken (PS0RC) [7539] no I just didn't want anything, I don't, I don't bother I, I mean I only used to have one meal a day before.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7540] You're like a blooming dog, one meal a day.
Ken (PS0RC) [7541] On me days, on me days off that's all I ever had.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7542] I like a bit of a snack, we don't have much at lunch time
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7543] oh a few crackers or something
Ken (PS0RC) [7544] Eh what can, what, what will Superglue stick er cast iron?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7545] It all depends Ken it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [7546] Did you
Raymond (PS0PN) [7547] I've never found it very successful with big things, very
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Ken (PS0RC) [7548] not big, it's not a big, it's that piece of hand handle of the gutter.
[7549] I was cleaning it up, I mean it dropped off there and it didn't break ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [7550] So have you still got it have you?
Ken (PS0RC) [7551] I was cleaning, cleaning it up ... and of course I was tapping it with a hammer wasn't I to try and get all the putty you know, try and break the putty and most of it came away and I just tapped this one little
Margaret (PS0PP) [7552] One last fatal tap
Ken (PS0RC) [7553] one little piece came ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [7554] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7555] I wonder what erm ... stuff for the cars do Ken?
Ken (PS0RC) [7556] As it happens
Raymond (PS0PN) [7557] Yes
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7558] What
Raymond (PS0PN) [7559] Great
Margaret (PS0PP) [7560] to fill it up to fill
Raymond (PS0PN) [7561] put a lamp on either side you know and put some in a crack, a lump either side
Margaret (PS0PP) [7562] You can buy all kinds of filler now it should do anything, indoors or outdoors
Ken (PS0RC) [7563] I was surprised
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7564] can't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7565] I mean
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Ken (PS0RC) [7566] Oh well this is for different kinds of metal you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [7567] They do?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7568] I know down at Evans I've noticed quite a few things in there, there are different
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7569] mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [7570] you know for, for different jobs
Raymond (PS0PN) [7571] For who?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7572] For you, it's
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7573] easy for you who to say
Raymond (PS0PN) [7574] Yeah, but er, this is usually you've got to work on top of course you've gotta
Ken (PS0RC) [7575] Eh, no I mean I've gotta dark that
Raymond (PS0PN) [7576] Oh you've got it off
Ken (PS0RC) [7577] Oh it fell off didn't it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7578] Oh I see.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7579] So it's been in the garage for years?
Ken (PS0RC) [7580] No it's only, it only came off
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Ken (PS0RC) [7581] doing that, putting that wire round for the aerial.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7582] You should ruddy well call them back to get it ... they caused the damage or failing that, claim on the insurance ... mind you they'd probably say well you must get in touch with the company that did the job.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7583] Well the trouble is you can probably get
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7584] I mean if somebody
Raymond (PS0PN) [7585] replace a whole
Margaret (PS0PP) [7586] puts an aerial on your roof and they knock a hole in your roof then presumably they're liable for the damage
Raymond (PS0PN) [7587] Oh yes ... yes, third party isn't it?
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7588] having said that it's getting them, getting them back isn't it to do it ... what was I gonna say before I started saying something did you
Raymond (PS0PN) [7589] What's that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7590] oh did you see that film?
[7591] That was it, did you see that film Blocking It with erm Dennis Weaver
Ken (PS0RC) [7592] McCloud
Margaret (PS0PP) [7593] Weaver
Ken (PS0RC) [7594] Weaver, he played McCloud
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7595] about the chap that couldn't read
Ken (PS0RC) [7596] I thought it was Dennis Weaver not Dennis, I thought it, what's his name McCloud.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7597] No we, he played McCloud
Ken (PS0RC) [7598] Oh it is the same one yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7599] Yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7600] No, I, I, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [7601] Do you want to borrow, well it's on two tapes, well I've still got it on the tapes if you want it, it's quite a good quite a good film
Ken (PS0RC) [7602] yeah, you, you, oh you taped it when I was here
Margaret (PS0PP) [7603] it's quite a good film
Ken (PS0RC) [7604] Is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7605] Yeah, so I mean you'll have to find a spot on the film where it
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7606] It's a good castrating because it used to be a bit of a
Margaret (PS0PP) [7607] this is a film
Ken (PS0RC) [7608] You, have you ever had what's is name back, did I give you what's is name back?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7609] Yes, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [7610] What's that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7611] the erm Dances With Wolves
Ken (PS0RC) [7612] Wolves, we did enjoy it
Margaret (PS0PP) [7613] erm
Ken (PS0RC) [7614] Bob thoroughly enjoyed it
Margaret (PS0PP) [7615] I think that's the first part and I think it's ready to go on there, erm
Ken (PS0RC) [7616] So that's er the one with the photograph on
Margaret (PS0PP) [7617] yes
Ken (PS0RC) [7618] That's right
Margaret (PS0PP) [7619] and the other, the rest of it is on the end of that, but I've wound it almost back to the beginning, that's Fantasia at the beginning of the tape
Ken (PS0RC) [7620] Oh I don't want to see that
Margaret (PS0PP) [7621] which is about two hours long so
Ken (PS0RC) [7622] I don't want
Margaret (PS0PP) [7623] so you'll have to fast forward it and suffer the last hour
Raymond (PS0PN) [7624] Well it was once , once, I couldn't see it again, but the music was beautiful of course, but then
Margaret (PS0PP) [7625] Fantasia?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7626] whether you want to listen to
Ken (PS0RC) [7627] I mean as you say the music, yes, but the, all the props in it, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [7628] You scalpel
Raymond (PS0PN) [7629] It was great, but it was I mean, I, I have to watch it because I'd never seen it before
Margaret (PS0PP) [7630] ain't you?
[7631] Eh, mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7632] and I thought I'd watch it now
Ken (PS0RC) [7633] I saw it as a kid
Raymond (PS0PN) [7634] Did you?
[7635] I, I don't ever remember
Ken (PS0RC) [7636] cos I couldn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [7637] Yeah, it might be, yeah, it could of been a bit overpowering I think.
[7638] Did Kelly's kids watch it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7639] Yes they have seen it, yeah, I said to Carrie have you watched it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7640] What do they say?
[7641] What did they say?
Ken (PS0RC) [7642] Did they pay
Raymond (PS0PN) [7643] Cos I
Ken (PS0RC) [7644] much attention to it or did they, distract
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7645] er well I didn't go into details
Raymond (PS0PN) [7646] see it's not their scene
Margaret (PS0PP) [7647] but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7648] I mean they wouldn't want to listen to the music I don't think
Margaret (PS0PP) [7649] I think er she said some of it was a bit you know slow and dragging for them
Ken (PS0RC) [7650] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7651] I mean er there was some of the music which wasn't our
Ken (PS0RC) [7652] Oh some of the music is a bit heavy too.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7653] yeah, and
Ken (PS0RC) [7654] You know
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Ken (PS0RC) [7655] out of your seats especially
Raymond (PS0PN) [7656] I mean ob , obviously the er, the lights of spring and the er dances of
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7657] very nice
Ken (PS0RC) [7658] oh there's some lovely music in it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7659] We all know this but
Margaret (PS0PP) [7660] but er ... the sorcerer is
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7661] some of it is very clever some of it, the effects and when you think back to nineteen forty one whichever
Ken (PS0RC) [7662] Oh yeah, oh it was marvellous, but I mean it's
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7663] You'd never get away with it today
Margaret (PS0PP) [7664] It was popular in the cinema's wasn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7665] you couldn't make it today and get away with it
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7666] oh, it just wouldn't
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7667] at all
Ken (PS0RC) [7668] well I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [7669] and of course you'd, you watch it over sort of sentimental or what have you, but I, I couldn't watch it again I don't think.
[7670] I can listen to the music
Margaret (PS0PP) [7671] Well that's why, that's why I said well we would
Ken (PS0RC) [7672] I was gonna say I mean, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7673] keep it on tape because
Raymond (PS0PN) [7674] I haven't got some of the music but
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7675] [laugh] yeah that's true we've got them on record , but erm, no it's erm
Ken (PS0RC) [7676] It's not
Raymond (PS0PN) [7677] And of course it was Stokowski was the conductor you see
Ken (PS0RC) [7678] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7679] he was a big name at the time, Laepol Stokowski
Ken (PS0RC) [7680] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7681] but erm, I imagine what's his name wouldn't do it, Walt Disney
Margaret (PS0PP) [7682] Oh good heavens no, I mean Walt Disney
Raymond (PS0PN) [7683] the M B C
Margaret (PS0PP) [7684] Mind that plant behind you.
Raymond (PS0PN) [7685] Oh it was very good.
Ken (PS0RC) [7686] What's this one about erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7687] Well I, I hadn't heard of it on the telly, I
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7688] with you yesterday, Jessica Tandy, erm Green Tomatoes
Margaret (PS0PP) [7689] Oh yes, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [7690] Cafe or something
Margaret (PS0PP) [7691] yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [7692] Look at this, it ain't very good
Margaret (PS0PP) [7693] a peculiar title
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7694] Oh she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [7695] How, how old is she, she's about eighty isn't she?
Ken (PS0RC) [7696] Private, she's eighty odd
Raymond (PS0PN) [7697] She's ninety two she is now, ninety two
Ken (PS0RC) [7698] Is she ninety two?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7699] It's incredible I heard her on the radio, she sounded very allusive
Ken (PS0RC) [7700] She was
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Ken (PS0RC) [7701] before the war
Raymond (PS0PN) [7702] Yeah she was in the
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7703] The Birds, wasn't she that film called The Birds
Margaret (PS0PP) [7704] That's right, yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7705] only a small role in that but she sort of had a late arrival
Ken (PS0RC) [7706] But she's the what's it, what, said like she was the toast of America for years
Margaret (PS0PP) [7707] Mm
Ken (PS0RC) [7708] in the, in the, on the stage
Raymond (PS0PN) [7709] Oh on the stage, yeah, but in films she came in later and only had small parts and never made
Ken (PS0RC) [7710] yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7711] much impact until this, one about the chauffeur did she
Ken (PS0RC) [7712] Yeah Driving Miss Daisy
Margaret (PS0PP) [7713] Yeah Driving Miss Daisy yeah, have you seen that?
Ken (PS0RC) [7714] I have
Raymond (PS0PN) [7715] Have you seen it?
Ken (PS0RC) [7716] I enjoyed that, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7717] Did you see it at the cinema or on video?
Ken (PS0RC) [7718] No on video, I, I saw that
Raymond (PS0PN) [7719] Oh
Ken (PS0RC) [7720] it's er, I, well I enjoyed it
Margaret (PS0PP) [7721] I was gonna say it has to vary to
Ken (PS0RC) [7722] It's, you know I mean it's a bit predictable and all that really, but
Margaret (PS0PP) [7723] Entertaining, mm
Ken (PS0RC) [7724] it was er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7725] She's in that
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7726] wasn't she er Kelly Maguinness about the Macarthy business that
Ken (PS0RC) [7727] She said the play is
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7728] erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7729] The House on Carol Street was it?
[7730] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7731] Oh er, The House on yes I think it was Carol Street wasn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7732] she was the old lady that sort of let to read to her
Margaret (PS0PP) [7733] That's right she goes to read to you, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7734] mm, then again she didn't have much of a part in that
Ken (PS0RC) [7735] She didn't, she's
Raymond (PS0PN) [7736] no
Ken (PS0RC) [7737] in a play isn't she?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7738] A play
Margaret (PS0PP) [7739] What in London now er, a
Ken (PS0RC) [7740] It's on er one, either this one or somebody else, being interviewed
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Ken (PS0RC) [7741] no she was sit in this
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7742] what play is that
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Ken (PS0RC) [7743] I'm sure she said she was in a play
Margaret (PS0PP) [7744] Well I, I know she said while she was over here, she's just
Ken (PS0RC) [7745] Oh she was er, in a, in a
Margaret (PS0PP) [7746] promoting a film perhaps, I don't think she's in a
Ken (PS0RC) [7747] no she didn't, it was promoting, I don't know whether she was in the television one, but I'm sure she said she's work, she was working, you know she was over here to work
Margaret (PS0PP) [7748] Mm, I know it, she was with her husband because erm whoever it was
Ken (PS0RC) [7749] Yes, it was
Margaret (PS0PP) [7750] who interviewed her
Raymond (PS0PN) [7751] How old is he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7752] I can't remember who it was now, but they said have you been, have you seen this, have you done that, which she said no she hasn't, I think she'd only just arrived some, some time last week didn't she?
Ken (PS0RC) [7753] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7754] But er, mm
Ken (PS0RC) [7755] but er
Margaret (PS0PP) [7756] I wouldn't of thought she
Raymond (PS0PN) [7757] She's got very severe though hasn't she, you, never comes over erm a sympathetic character, she's always playing the
Margaret (PS0PP) [7758] The more austere types
Raymond (PS0PN) [7759] Like that one in Carol Street that was a type she played that one
Margaret (PS0PP) [7760] Yes that's her role in
Raymond (PS0PN) [7761] always thought of rebuking the girl, so
Margaret (PS0PP) [7762] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7763] the slightest thing and
Margaret (PS0PP) [7764] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7765] very little humour
Ken (PS0RC) [7766] But then that was the role she played obviously
Raymond (PS0PN) [7767] Well that's it
Margaret (PS0PP) [7768] Well she's a bit like that in Driving Miss Daisy I think isn't she?
Ken (PS0RC) [7769] I've no idea.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7770] Mm, well I'm only going by cuts I've seen, but ... same type of role I suppose.
[7771] So what have you decided to do about these damn boards?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7772] I thought I would go and take one of the head ones and journey along down to that place and so, you know, is there any chance you slipping me down a good four long ones and if he says no, think again?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7773] Mm, see how many
Ken (PS0RC) [7774] Well how much is the detector?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7775] One of the hand held ones
Raymond (PS0PN) [7776] About fifteen quid I think for a small one this chap said, it's very cheap
Margaret (PS0PP) [7777] Oh, cheap, oh I thought it would of been about fifty pounds
Raymond (PS0PN) [7778] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [7779] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [7780] they're only a plastic job I would of imagined
Margaret (PS0PP) [7781] Oh I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [7782] it's only that long
Margaret (PS0PP) [7783] What if the same situation would apply with iron nails presumably then
Raymond (PS0PN) [7784] Well I've no idea, you know, I mean he all he does is all timber so I imagine he's dealing with a quite a lot of old hand made nails and
Margaret (PS0PP) [7785] Mm hand made nails mm , you'll have to ask him about it, it might be an investment and begin a usually
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Ken (PS0RC) [7786] Oh I was gonna say what kind has he got?
[7787] How much was his?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7788] Oh I, I think he said they only fifteen pounds, those tiny ones.
Ken (PS0RC) [7789] Is that what he's got at this
Raymond (PS0PN) [7790] That's what he uses, cos I mean he wouldn't be doing stuff like this anyway mind.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7791] So does he take his to a timber yard to be split?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7792] I wouldn't of thought so.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7793] Well why does he use it then, why does he need a metal detect?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7794] Well if he gets an old piece of
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Ken (PS0RC) [7795] Wants to plane it
Raymond (PS0PN) [7796] or he wants to plane it or
Margaret (PS0PP) [7797] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7798] whatever he wants to make sure that he's
Ken (PS0RC) [7799] He's not going to ruin his tools you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [7800] Yes, mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7801] cos well even the chisel he could knock, knock a lump of chisel couldn't you with a
Ken (PS0RC) [7802] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7803] chopping away there's a, there's a nail in it
Margaret (PS0PP) [7804] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7805] not this sort of thing you wouldn't as I say
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7806] he wouldn't of been touching it with this.
[7807] So
Ken (PS0RC) [7808] Well how thick this stuff is then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7809] About an inch and
Ken (PS0RC) [7810] Oh it could, should do that
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Ken (PS0RC) [7811] I was wondering what technique he'd be very good at
Margaret (PS0PP) [7812] It's a three quarters
Raymond (PS0PN) [7813] It's er three quarters isn't it
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7814] and five eighths whatever, I'm hoping to get two
Margaret (PS0PP) [7815] Two boards
Raymond (PS0PN) [7816] two shelves out of it you see
Ken (PS0RC) [7817] I reckon you can cut it yourself
Raymond (PS0PN) [7818] Well that's what I'm trying to get these
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7819] to do you see, that's it, it's about that, that wide, and doing that by hand
Margaret (PS0PP) [7820] And keeping it straight, you'd have to have a jig or something to keep it in
Raymond (PS0PN) [7821] No I did those others just to
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7822] I got one side and then you turn it over, you keep to the line all the time you know, so the two cuts meet
Margaret (PS0PP) [7823] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7824] most times they do, sometimes they
Ken (PS0RC) [7825] It does not [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7826] the Channel Tunnel
Ken (PS0RC) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [7827] We'd have two tunnels
Ken (PS0RC) [7828] Three, right I'll be going to Chester again tomorrow [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7829] That's how they used to do it Ken
Ken (PS0RC) [7830] I know we did right, but I that's something I'd never
Raymond (PS0PN) [7831] this chap with his book he says watch out of it George it burns you, look in the corner and get your torch, you know, maybe you're going to an antique place
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7832] get inside, sometimes
Margaret (PS0PP) [7833] Get inside you're going
Raymond (PS0PN) [7834] where it hasn't , the plane hasn't, he said he can see and he tells you how to
Margaret (PS0PP) [7835] See the saw marks, mm
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7836] mm, that's right, because there were like lines across where they
Raymond (PS0PN) [7837] And you've got different sort of saw marks some of er them
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7838] saw, which er, is obvious a machine, they even had band saws apparently at the end of the last century, cabinet makers band saws ... oh I've never seen, all I've ever seen is the big ones for mills you know the logs, these ones for er, obviously for timber erm
Ken (PS0RC) [7839] They must
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Ken (PS0RC) [7840] need to cut them
Raymond (PS0PN) [7841] and then of course there's
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7842] you can see the mark on it, that one's a curl isn't it?
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7843] But er, pre, I thought you were talking about George the first something like that ... then you've got er hand sawn timber, you know you can see the marks on the board ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [7844] Er, you've been fiddling about at the back where it breaks yeah, did you tell Ken?
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7845] some of this has gone on
Ken (PS0RC) [7846] on the back there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7847] Yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7848] Ah you want, you know what is surprising you know, he said about putting the what's its name in the, in the base
Raymond (PS0PN) [7849] No
Ken (PS0RC) [7850] Well you know how the, those gutters one sits on the other at the joint don't they, and they used to fill it with er putty didn't they and
Raymond (PS0PN) [7851] That's right, yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7852] and they used to have a little screw to ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [7853] No
Ken (PS0RC) [7854] well there was a screw in
Margaret (PS0PP) [7855] Oh
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Ken (PS0RC) [7856] oh there was a screw, we had like a screw with er some
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Ken (PS0RC) [7857] screw with er, with er like a nut on the end didn't they,
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Ken (PS0RC) [7858] and I thought now this is
Raymond (PS0PN) [7859] no way is this gonna come out
Ken (PS0RC) [7860] come out
Margaret (PS0PP) [7861] Ooh
Ken (PS0RC) [7862] put it in the vice, I mean put it in the vice ... whether, whether it just pull the head off I don't know but it came out
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Ken (PS0RC) [7863] got a screw in there
Raymond (PS0PN) [7864] Mm well you think all those years
Ken (PS0RC) [7865] the knot, the knot in the what's its name
Raymond (PS0PN) [7866] Yes
Ken (PS0RC) [7867] but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7868] this chap said in his book about
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7869] and his screws, touch it with a soldering iron something hot, you know, the head in it, it'll get warm and sort of sometimes cracks the, separates the rust from the
Ken (PS0RC) [7870] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7871] outside of the screw
Ken (PS0RC) [7872] Of course you'll get a bit of heat, get a bit of heat from it, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7873] you to start otherwise your head snaps off doesn't it?
[7874] You wouldn't of thought of putting a soldering iron on there would you?
[7875] ... He does have some good tips this chap.
Ken (PS0RC) [7876] What book's that?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7877] The one by this chap teaching
Margaret (PS0PP) [7878] At college
Raymond (PS0PN) [7879] you know he's written the book Michael Bennett
Margaret (PS0PP) [7880] bought the book
Ken (PS0RC) [7881] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7882] Have you seen the film, now buy the book, huh
Ken (PS0RC) [7883] So you've bought the book?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7884] I've bought it yeah
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7885] at a discount
Ken (PS0RC) [7886] You weren't going to buy it were you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7887] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [7888] Well I thought I'd borrow one or
Margaret (PS0PP) [7889] you bought, well you did borrow one
Raymond (PS0PN) [7890] bloke that came to er, theatre closing on a Sunday, a once a monthly
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Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [7891] fifteen quid's not bad
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Ken (PS0RC) [7892] Oh, oh that's superb
Raymond (PS0PN) [7893] they're for sale in America, Australia, Canada
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7894] [laugh] well
Ken (PS0RC) [7895] well I mean they I, I shouldn't imagine, I should imagine there must be potential or they wouldn't of sent him there
Margaret (PS0PP) [7896] Oh of course of course
Ken (PS0RC) [7897] you know er, they're not that daft
Raymond (PS0PN) [7898] Oh no, I hope that
Ken (PS0RC) [7899] that they waste money, er
Raymond (PS0PN) [7900] oh no, I don't think they would be
Margaret (PS0PP) [7901] I mean the thing is it's a limited market isn't it?
[7902] But the, but it, well like it's there
Raymond (PS0PN) [7903] A lot of people interested now you see amateurs
Margaret (PS0PP) [7904] Yes
Ken (PS0RC) [7905] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [7906] you know you see them on the telly, don't you, housewife with er
Ken (PS0RC) [7907] Ah well I mean there's of course well I mean that what's it you know, it's surprising how much, that Antiques Roadshow's
Margaret (PS0PP) [7908] Oh well
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7909] oh absolutely oh yeah
Ken (PS0RC) [7910] you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [7911] he must get a huge audience every Sunday night, I know we would
Raymond (PS0PN) [7912] But then again a lot of people wouldn't dream of doing anything, they go and buy some but er there are
Ken (PS0RC) [7913] But they would read , some would read about it and things like that
Margaret (PS0PP) [7914] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7915] Oh I'd have a go at that
Margaret (PS0PP) [7916] Mm
Ken (PS0RC) [7917] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7918] Oh yes ... I wonder if this fellow sort of does take the erm mystique out of
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7919] a great extent, they said we'd try to get some chemicals this morning from him.
Margaret (PS0PP) [7920] Oh yes, well, you said you were gonna
Raymond (PS0PN) [7921] You said ring old Bentley up didn't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [7922] Yeah, well er, yeah well go down there I mean he still lives at the back of the shops still just ask him
Raymond (PS0PN) [7923] Yeah ...
Ken (PS0RC) [7924] Well you could ask him right, I mean, I, I mean I don't, I don't think he sh , he didn't sell the shop did he?
[7925] And I don't suppose
Margaret (PS0PP) [7926] Oh no he told
Ken (PS0RC) [7927] he sold off all his stock
Margaret (PS0PP) [7928] they did a feature on him didn't they the other
Ken (PS0RC) [7929] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [7930] week and they
Ken (PS0RC) [7931] I don't suppose you know, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [7932] he's erm a bit of an eccentric now isn't he?
Ken (PS0RC) [7933] Cor not half, but he's always been a bit of
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7934] oh well yes I suppose so
Raymond (PS0PN) [7935] He was as
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7936] didn't he years ago and the big kids sort of, well not torment him, but he's for the fun you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [7937] Did he, was he in, was he in the polo team or did he used to er
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7938] no wasn't interested I can remember seeing him about of cubs or
Raymond (PS0PN) [7939] Always used to go on a Sunday messing about
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7940] a big str , a bit strong fellow to he had good legs on him, he did a lot of cycling you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [7941] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7942] but the big kids used to jump on and all, he used to laugh like
Margaret (PS0PP) [7943] [laughing] Oh yeah []
Raymond (PS0PN) [7944] oh as you say a bit of a character
Margaret (PS0PP) [7945] Yeah ... right so go down and see him, and then go over to that place near Red Row and see if they'll cut that wood for you ... we can see it's just gone half past two now, I want a ball game on the fence post
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7946] post today
Raymond (PS0PN) [7947] I offered to help he said he's got a mate to help
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7948] I don't know whether he thinks I'm gonna
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7949] mm, oh unless Kathy did she say he thought
Margaret (PS0PP) [7950] No, what
Raymond (PS0PN) [7951] I was work , going to school
Margaret (PS0PP) [7952] Yes he thought you were at college today because I said no, I said erm it's Tuesday he goes cos Kathy said oh your dad could of come on Monday, oh what's this lad's name who was helping me today?
Raymond (PS0PN) [7953] One of the police fellows, you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [7954] One of fellows he did his training with
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Margaret (PS0PP) [7955] you know and he said

44 (Tape 030305)

Shirley (PS0PS) [7956] I, I slept very badly on Sunday night but I slept much better last night and I woke up early, if I go to sleep early,wer , a, I wake up early
Raymond (PS0PN) [7957] Oh with still aches and pains
Shirley (PS0PS) [7958] Sunday's I'm absol yeah, I'm absolutely knackered and I just can't get out of bed even though I'm awake, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [7959] Great, good god
Shirley (PS0PS) [7960] and then other, like this morning I woke up about quarter to seven, well I'd been awake a while but I thought I'd came to at quarter to seven I went down and make some tea and having breakfast
Raymond (PS0PN) [7961] Bouncing with energy
Shirley (PS0PS) [7962] and then, no I wouldn't say that
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Shirley (PS0PS) [7963] but er, no my arms have been really painful this last week
Raymond (PS0PN) [7964] Mm, mm, Margaret it's her feet, huh
Shirley (PS0PS) [7965] I don't know why
Raymond (PS0PN) [7966] she gets out of bed and she's like this
Shirley (PS0PS) [7967] Oh well I'm like that al always, I walk to the bathroom you know
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7968] yeah, that's right, yeah to lean
Shirley (PS0PS) [7969] But that's, that's something I've had for years, but my arms and shoulders
Raymond (PS0PN) [7970] Shoulder mm
Shirley (PS0PS) [7971] and you know my elbows
Raymond (PS0PN) [7972] Mm
Shirley (PS0PS) [7973] my, my shoulders
Raymond (PS0PN) [7974] It must be awful thing and of course you tend if, if you haven't got it to tend to think for god sake, you know it's a, it's a nice day
Shirley (PS0PS) [7975] You know some days I'm really like an old
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7976] mm
Shirley (PS0PS) [7977] when I get
Raymond (PS0PN) [7978] Yes , yes, yeah
Shirley (PS0PS) [7979] up in the morning once I've had a bath and I'm moving, you know, I'm fine
Raymond (PS0PN) [7980] That's right
Shirley (PS0PS) [7981] so I, it's just
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Raymond (PS0PN) [7982] yet you never seem to show it here, do you, once, once you're going
Shirley (PS0PS) [7983] m, well as I say , once I'm going [laughing] it's just getting going []
Raymond (PS0PN) [7984] You know some people I mean er, er they're really bad
Shirley (PS0PS) [7985] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7986] they're, they're, they have to sit down
Shirley (PS0PS) [7987] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7988] for a, days don't they?
Shirley (PS0PS) [7989] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [7990] But they say exercise is a bad thing if er the joints are infected, but the joint
Shirley (PS0PS) [7991] Well, I'm trying to sort of monitor my diet really erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [7992] Yes, you must
Shirley (PS0PS) [7993] erm, avoiding citrus fruits, I drink too much coffee
Raymond (PS0PN) [7994] Coffee
Shirley (PS0PS) [7995] I know I drink too much coffee
Raymond (PS0PN) [7996] well we do, yes , that's bad for you
Shirley (PS0PS) [7997] I've started drinking camomile tea on occasion
Raymond (PS0PN) [7998] Yeah vile though isn't it?
Shirley (PS0PS) [7999] No, I don't mind it
Raymond (PS0PN) [8000] Oh
Shirley (PS0PS) [8001] but I can't drink it all the time
Raymond (PS0PN) [8002] No, no it's an acquired taste
Shirley (PS0PS) [8003] I've gone on to decaffeinated coffee I do drink decaffeinated
Raymond (PS0PN) [8004] Oh yeah, that's better , erm
Shirley (PS0PS) [8005] erm, but erm you know it's just one of those
Raymond (PS0PN) [8006] but of course it's
Shirley (PS0PS) [8007] unfortunate things I think, so
Raymond (PS0PN) [8008] some of the young people have got it, my, I mean my son is only twenty nine and he's got it you know in the shoulders this er
Shirley (PS0PS) [8009] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [8010] er, now he doesn't like to talk about it you see, and I said to him one day look Paul for god sake, oh, he'll tell his mum, but he doesn't like to talk about it to me
Shirley (PS0PS) [8011] No, well mind you I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [8012] which is bad really isn't it?
Shirley (PS0PS) [8013] well Nick, Nick, I've always been the buffer, it's funny, I mean Bruce is, is very like you in a lot of ways, he's very easy going, you know and, but if the kids ever wanted anything
Raymond (PS0PN) [8014] Mum
Shirley (PS0PS) [8015] or wanted to
Raymond (PS0PN) [8016] that's right
Shirley (PS0PS) [8017] real to say something to Bruce they'll come to me and I'll have
Raymond (PS0PN) [8018] Yes
Shirley (PS0PS) [8019] and I'll have [laughing] to tell Bruce []
Raymond (PS0PN) [8020] that's right, funny isn't it?
[8021] Yeah
Shirley (PS0PS) [8022] it's really strange isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8023] yeah, it is, yeah
Shirley (PS0PS) [8024] And yet, you know, he's, he's marv , he's super and they think the world of him
Raymond (PS0PN) [8025] Just that mum
Shirley (PS0PS) [8026] It's a lot more when they were
Raymond (PS0PN) [8027] but it's, it's all cos you know younger perhaps
Shirley (PS0PS) [8028] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8029] it's still all there, isn't it?
Shirley (PS0PS) [8030] Yes, yes, it is strange that they have this
Raymond (PS0PN) [8031] Yeah, even on the phone our Rob rings up and er, he'll speak to me for a few minutes and he speaks
Shirley (PS0PS) [8032] Yeah is mum there?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8033] yeah is mum there, or, you know, oh
Shirley (PS0PS) [8034] Yeah [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8035] or she'll have two talks to him, when I've finished , but mum on again
Shirley (PS0PS) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8036] what have I done?
Shirley (PS0PS) [8037] I don't think it's anything really
Raymond (PS0PN) [8038] No, no, it's just
Shirley (PS0PS) [8039] at all, it's just er
Raymond (PS0PN) [8040] it's how they are

45 (Tape 030401)

George (PS0RG) [8041] You can make them up you me or or
John (PS0RF) [8042] No
George (PS0RG) [8043] no, oh ...
Brian (PS0PR) [8044] You know, you know this casting
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John (PS0RF) [8045] It would cost you more to build it up and buy the parts
George (PS0RG) [8046] Oh yeah probably would, yeah, new
John (PS0RF) [8047] that's, that's your problem
George (PS0RG) [8048] if they're new parts anyway
John (PS0RF) [8049] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8050] yeah, yeah, unless they're old, old ones yeah ... and they'd all have to fit wouldn't they?
[8051] I suppose they're not all the, you get a record, they, was a stanley
Brian (PS0PR) [8052] Yeah ...
George (PS0RG) [8053] the other one's a re , I mustn't get one of these oh a long one it's eh
Brian (PS0PR) [8054] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8055] for shooting and er doing the long stuff
Brian (PS0PR) [8056] Is it this lot they call jointing plane is it?
George (PS0RG) [8057] Yeah
Brian (PS0PR) [8058] Or is that the very, very long one?
George (PS0RG) [8059] that's the smoothing one the little one, isn't it?
Brian (PS0PR) [8060] They're bound to have dozens of them in there
George (PS0RG) [8061] Oh and the old jack plane, remember the
Brian (PS0PR) [8062] oh, we have done that
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George (PS0RG) [8063] yeah, they're not worth buying second hand I don't think now because there's so much wear on them isn't there?
[8064] You know the wood on them over the years it's
Brian (PS0PR) [8065] Well it's not, oh, this is the metal one
George (PS0RG) [8066] Oh I see yeah, yeah, I'm thinking back to the wooden ones, yeah at school, you know the er, we use to have a shooting board
Brian (PS0PR) [8067] Mind you the shape
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George (PS0RG) [8068] I suppose yeah but you, you, sometimes you get the hole wears doesn't it were the er blade is and all this business so you get a great wadge of wood jamming in there ... but er, I could do spending a few hundred quid on tools, but ... what can you do?
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George (PS0RG) [8069] right, yeah, very, very useful
John (PS0RF) [8070] Oh
George (PS0RG) [8071] but I don't know, we
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George (PS0RG) [8072] of those John are very, very
John (PS0RF) [8073] Pardon?
George (PS0RG) [8074] dangerous you know, with the fastest moving
John (PS0RF) [8075] Oh
George (PS0RG) [8076] wood machine, they're doing about thirty odd thousand revs you know, so I mean
John (PS0RF) [8077] No there's twenty to
George (PS0RG) [8078] Twenty is it?
[8079] Yeah
John (PS0RF) [8080] over twenty two thousand
George (PS0RG) [8081] that's a lot of revs
John (PS0RF) [8082] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8083] one mistake ... you know forget something ... and you'll be going round like this five pints [laugh] ... I use, I use to see quite a lot of things missing you know in a certain time
John (PS0RF) [8084] Oh the erm
George (PS0RG) [8085] I saw three bad accidents you know, with people on, mainly on spindles
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8086] they wouldn't put the guards, they never used to have the guard on you see you
John (PS0RF) [8087] No
George (PS0RG) [8088] you were like this ...
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8089] yeah
George (PS0RG) [8090] I've seen that happen twice
John (PS0RF) [8091] yeah
George (PS0RG) [8092] and then a, a guy that I served the time on, he, he was he was
John (PS0RF) [8093] And also
George (PS0RG) [8094] nearly seventy and he's put his hand under to get the
John (PS0RF) [8095] the spindle guard is
George (PS0RG) [8096] er, shavings out
John (PS0RF) [8097] you have a block on which the cutters are bolted aren't they?
George (PS0RG) [8098] English block yes that's right, yeah
John (PS0RF) [8099] Yeah and sometimes it wears loose, you know?
George (PS0RG) [8100] Oh yeah, oh you must watch that
John (PS0RF) [8101] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8102] but they're not allowed to use them now George said
John (PS0RF) [8103] Pardon?
George (PS0RG) [8104] here anyway, they're not allowed to use an English block or the French head, which is the one, you know, the spindle
John (PS0RF) [8105] And
George (PS0RG) [8106] the slot in it, so I mean really that one up there is a, a bit of an ornament, never used, I suppose you can see why because er
John (PS0RF) [8107] That's right
George (PS0RG) [8108] they started letting, letting students use that well er [laugh]
John (PS0RF) [8109] of course, er
George (PS0RG) [8110] they'll be paying compensation
John (PS0RF) [8111] they do a lot of rebating with that dado head on the
George (PS0RG) [8112] Do they?
[8113] Here?
John (PS0RF) [8114] and the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8115] remember when you went up on it, the housing for the bookcase on that
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8116] yes, yes, yes
John (PS0RF) [8117] Do you remember it, pulling the machine across and there was your housing
George (PS0RG) [8118] Oh yes on the cross cut thing, yeah, er, er
John (PS0RF) [8119] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8120] you can use it for a saw or put a head
John (PS0RF) [8121] and you can set it
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8122] that's right, yeah, that's right , now that was very useful that was
John (PS0RF) [8123] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8124] the French out yeah, yeah, yes they allow it, well they allow them to use it don't they, I suppose, now that's very dangerous mate
John (PS0RF) [8125] I've seen a lot of those in there
George (PS0RG) [8126] saves a lot of work
John (PS0RF) [8127] semi , semi domestic use
George (PS0RG) [8128] I mean there's so much more, well I did these on the mortise er, up the top last week you know
John (PS0RF) [8129] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8130] did it on the mortise
John (PS0RF) [8131] Mm
George (PS0RG) [8132] and er, so all I had to do was the tenons really and, and at least you know that they're symmetrical
John (PS0RF) [8133] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8134] you know, there's no, whereas when you do it with a chisel it's a bit of a, inverted commas
John (PS0RF) [8135] Oh yeah
George (PS0RG) [8136] [laugh] ... right box on a bit

46 (Tape 030402)

Brian (PS0PR) [8137] The only way we can actually go about it ... is that if we use these cramps and if you remember me telling you, or I do hint every now and then, make sure you keep the cramps straight parallel to the rails, and that's the reason why because it'll fall straight, now if something's in twist and we want to bring it back again, what you do is if it's in twist that way, you put the cramp as I've done these slightly up
George (PS0RG) [8138] Up
Brian (PS0PR) [8139] now that cramp
George (PS0RG) [8140] oh well, oh
Brian (PS0PR) [8141] as you turn it up, it's gonna pull straight, that bit still didn't do it so we went to the other side, put the cramp the other way and having put that one down and that one up, now if you sight that now through there
Shirley (PS0PS) [8142] Yeah it's alright now
George (PS0RG) [8143] This is wobbling isn't it?
John (PS0RF) [8144] One, one leg's shorter than the other for starters isn't it?
George (PS0RG) [8145] Jolly good
John (PS0RF) [8146] This one
Brian (PS0PR) [8147] it will, but what is the most important, do we get the
John (PS0RF) [8148] I want the shorter one in that one is it?
Shirley (PS0PS) [8149] Yeah, yeah
John (PS0RF) [8150] George
Brian (PS0PR) [8151] Now what's happened in the past someone has cut these
John (PS0RF) [8152] that's right
Brian (PS0PR) [8153] wrongly
George (PS0RG) [8154] Oh aye, it's going down there
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Shirley (PS0PS) [8155] try and make it er
George (PS0RG) [8156] You clever Brian, no, ah?
Brian (PS0PR) [8157] What we've got to do is one or two things, do we get this right?
[8158] ... Or do we get that right?
[8159] And that's the original chair er when that was level, now to get that right
George (PS0RG) [8160] You have to take some off that one there
Brian (PS0PR) [8161] Or
George (PS0RG) [8162] afterwards
Brian (PS0PR) [8163] put something on there
Shirley (PS0PS) [8164] Mm
Brian (PS0PR) [8165] and it's leaning forward and it's
George (PS0RG) [8166] and, and these two as well
Brian (PS0PR) [8167] supposed to have casters
Shirley (PS0PS) [8168] No you should have casters on there that's why
Brian (PS0PR) [8169] and it about up to there
George (PS0RG) [8170] Should you really?
Shirley (PS0PS) [8171] Yes
Brian (PS0PR) [8172] so that's what's missing
George (PS0RG) [8173] Shucks
Shirley (PS0PS) [8174] so would of
Brian (PS0PR) [8175] It would of had either
George (PS0RG) [8176] Surely not, it would of made too high with casters
Shirley (PS0PS) [8177] No, no
George (PS0RG) [8178] Oh
Shirley (PS0PS) [8179] And if a chair's sloping like that you could of [...]
George (PS0RG) [8180] Yeah I know, but, but
Shirley (PS0PS) [8181] casters on
George (PS0RG) [8182] I imagine it would be a greater
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8183] So that's how it should be
George (PS0RG) [8184] slope than that wouldn't it?
John (PS0RF) [8185] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8186] And not only that
Shirley (PS0PS) [8187] No
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8188] There's something missing off there
Shirley (PS0PS) [8189] no
George (PS0RG) [8190] a bit fine to get casters on the end of that
Shirley (PS0PS) [8191] no
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8192] no inch, inch and a half
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8193] they do them seven eighths
Shirley (PS0PS) [8194] erm, now you've got to make your mind up on this
George (PS0RG) [8195] Once again I stand corrected [laugh]
Shirley (PS0PS) [8196] What's more important ... getting that level and putting that right or getting the bottom level which to me would be more important
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8197] I think just
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Shirley (PS0PS) [8198] So do we stand the cramping?
George (PS0RG) [8199] Yeah, this business of pulling it down there to ...
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Shirley (PS0PS) [8200] OK, so we can use the cramps to your advantage to pull things back into
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Shirley (PS0PS) [8201] again, by just offsetting them.
George (PS0RG) [8202] I was mentioning to Chris before you know she had a hell of a job to get these joints out here cos they've got three dowels in each one
Brian (PS0PR) [8203] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8204] now using Mike's method, you know, putting the water in
Brian (PS0PR) [8205] Well that's what we did to get this far
George (PS0RG) [8206] Yeah, but she didn't, she didn't inject it, did she?
Brian (PS0PR) [8207] No we just grabbed the dowel
George (PS0RG) [8208] But the, the trouble was the water wasn't going into the dowels
Brian (PS0PR) [8209] Well it won't even if you inject it because, how
George (PS0RG) [8210] I just wondered is there another way?
Brian (PS0PR) [8211] No
George (PS0RG) [8212] Oh
Brian (PS0PR) [8213] all it will do is slowly soften and go in, I can assure you, you don't need to inject it
George (PS0RG) [8214] No, so there, they've got to be forced, forced out
Brian (PS0PR) [8215] warm water in , warm water
George (PS0RG) [8216] Yeah
Brian (PS0PR) [8217] and don't forget water will go in with capillary attraction
George (PS0RG) [8218] I see
Brian (PS0PR) [8219] so the tighter the joint, the water will penetrate
George (PS0RG) [8220] because the obviously danger's that it's snapping the dowels and it's which, it what happened on, on the case of the two dowels innit?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8221] That's because we were porting it
George (PS0RG) [8222] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8223] what we should do when you're doing these and we took one apart but we didn't break them
Shirley (PS0PS) [8224] Mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8225] and what your supposed to do is
George (PS0RG) [8226] Clamps
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8227] sudden shock
George (PS0RG) [8228] Oh
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8229] if you find that it's not moving
George (PS0RG) [8230] I see
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8231] with a sudden shock, that's when the dowels are gonna break, so what you try and do is you actually
George (PS0RG) [8232] Lever it so that
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8233] fix one, but don't lever it too much in this stuff, just to move them
George (PS0RG) [8234] No cos it's gonna snap
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8235] and then once you've started moving them
Shirley (PS0PS) [8236] Bring the chair over
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8237] in the water, so you start making the crack, you put more water in
George (PS0RG) [8238] Mm, yes
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8239] and that softens the joint, and it's surprising the warm water going in
George (PS0RG) [8240] Good i yes
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8241] it will soften the joint anyway
George (PS0RG) [8242] with the animal glue
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8243] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8244] Yeah
John (PS0RF) [8245] It's best to use a rag or something round it
Shirley (PS0PS) [8246] Yes it is, yes ...
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8247] because the rag is only going to stay damp on the outside
Shirley (PS0PS) [8248] That's a good idea
George (PS0RG) [8249] Well what about using the clampers we did before, turned inside out or whatever, you know with the, force the joints
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8250] These wouldn't, you know, you'd have to turn these round, you can use these clips to clamp a part, but
George (PS0RG) [8251] Mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8252] most of the time, you can, if you soften it, it came apart reasonably easy
George (PS0RG) [8253] is isn't
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8254] so if the joint is loose
George (PS0RG) [8255] hand me swinging on it for ten minutes
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8256] [laugh] they were tight, they were very tight one's
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8257] Well if you just run, once you've got the, got the crack
Shirley (PS0PS) [8258] Yes
George (PS0RG) [8259] Mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8260] the joint open a little bit run water
George (PS0RG) [8261] Water, yeah [sniff]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8262] don't even in inject, you know pour a cup of water in, into a, through and then it'll come off fast
George (PS0RG) [8263] Don't you have to wait until that dries before you put the new glue on the, the joint?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8264] No because with the glue
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8265] Oh doesn't matter, oh of course it's water
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8266] soak it in water
George (PS0RG) [8267] Yes, I that's right yeah, oh there you are learnt something else
Shirley (PS0PS) [8268] I'll point it out to the girl and if she wanted to, it, it's not a chair, but I think it's more decorative than anything else
George (PS0RG) [8269] It's a nice brown colour that too, isn't it ah?
Shirley (PS0PS) [8270] and it, it didn't look odd at all really
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Shirley (PS0PS) [8271] yeah
George (PS0RG) [8272] Ah that's right, have the, have the upholstery slanting [laugh]
Shirley (PS0PS) [8273] What sort of wood is it?
George (PS0RG) [8274] Mahogany
Brian (PS0PR) [8275] It's
Shirley (PS0PS) [8276] Why's it so pale?
Brian (PS0PR) [8277] it's
George (PS0RG) [8278] Pale mahogany
Brian (PS0PR) [8279] yeah, now what's
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8280] It looks like yew
Brian (PS0PR) [8281] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8282] Oh is it?
John (PS0RF) [8283] You reckon
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8284] It looks like, no.

47 (Tape 030403)

George (PS0RG) [8285] You haven't been here for ... last week did you?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8286] Last week
Shirley (PS0PS) [8287] Right yes, yes
George (PS0RG) [8288] Oh what a sham
Shirley (PS0PS) [8289] yes I missed you after
George (PS0RG) [8290] we all missed you didn't we?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8291] something missing wasn't there, that, that little spark
Nanette (PS0RH) [8292] Ah, you're so good
George (PS0RG) [laugh]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8293] No I had a friend er from Holland who stayed
George (PS0RG) [8294] Oh lovely, yeah
Nanette (PS0RH) [8295] and well I've, I've had a sort of split feeling I wanted to be here
George (PS0RG) [8296] Oh well you've got a visitor you can't can you?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8297] I know
George (PS0RG) [8298] How long have you got now, er before you go back?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8299] Stopped dancing
John (PS0RF) [8300] Pardon?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8301] I stopped dancing when I came to
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8302] What, oh I didn't see that
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8303] no, no and it'll need in America to dance
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8304] Pardon?
George (PS0RG) [8305] you can't dance with clogs on [laugh]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8306] You can
John (PS0RF) [8307] Oh yes
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8308] People do
George (PS0RG) [8309] I know clog
Nanette (PS0RH) [8310] I don't know how, but
George (PS0RG) [laugh]
John (PS0RF) [8311] Ah, just eh Nanette ...
George (PS0RG) [8312] I thought it was Fred Astaire
Shirley (PS0PS) [8313] Don't believe them for one minute
George (PS0RG) [8314] Take no notice ... did you ever see a programme about erm, I forget his name now but he used to dance with Sammy Davis ... er man in he's nearly seventy now I suppose but him and his brother go to this place in New York and it showed him outside in the street
John (PS0RF) [8315] Cotton Club
George (PS0RG) [8316] The Cotton Club
John (PS0RF) [8317] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8318] and this chappie had a double hip replacement operation, it's been on the television here and er, he said they started off dancing with Sammy Davis, you know, er what's it called, Tip Tap Toe or something like that, they, they act Sammy Davis and his, and his parents and then these two chaps I, I mean they hadn't made it big time
John (PS0RF) [8319] Well he was quite a good dancer himself
George (PS0RG) [8320] Oh yes, oh gosh, yes, well these two are fantastic for their ages, god the way the could move, you know
John (PS0RF) [8321] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8322] and they get two
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8323] this guy got ... absolutely marvellous but they were full of it and they said we just learned it we didn't, we didn't go to school or anything like that, we
Nanette (PS0RH) [8324] They learned it on the corner
George (PS0RG) [8325] [...] they danced on the, on the corner
Nanette (PS0RH) [8326] they, they sort of compete with each other for different steps
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8327] Oh yes, oh it was all like in
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8328] you say, but it doesn't a character
Nanette (PS0RH) [8329] Did you see that kid from Lancashire? [laugh]
John (PS0RF) [8330] Honestly they, they were
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8331] you're thinking about
John (PS0RF) [8332] clog dancing
Nanette (PS0RH) [8333] clog dancing and
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8334] and the clogs have the steel run
George (PS0RG) [8335] oh yeah but it's not the same
John (PS0RF) [8336] but I mean it's amazing how fast
George (PS0RG) [8337] Yeah
John (PS0RF) [8338] and they, they beat out the rhythm in much the same way
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8339] don't it?
George (PS0RG) [8340] I mean that's, that's about as entertaining as morris dancing
Nanette (PS0RH) [8341] Morris dancing, I find that very interesting
George (PS0RG) [8342] I can't stand it me, do you like it
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8343] I mean somebody's again there's morris dancing and there's morris dancing
Nanette (PS0RH) [8344] I feel that if there's, there's awful lot of history this cos there's a very ancient history behind it
John (PS0RF) [8345] Erm, yeah
George (PS0RG) [8346] Oh yes, I imagine, oh yeah
Nanette (PS0RH) [8347] I find very interesting
George (PS0RG) [8348] Oh there must be, yeah, as an entertainment I don't know.
John (PS0RF) [8349] There, there was a wonderful display in Chester about five years ago
Nanette (PS0RH) [8350] They're good
John (PS0RF) [8351] er quite a
George (PS0RG) [8352] Mhm
John (PS0RF) [8353] large number of morris dancers
Nanette (PS0RH) [8354] They're still there, they were there last week
John (PS0RF) [8355] but some from Leeds
George (PS0RG) [8356] Oh aye there, oh there's hundreds of clubs
John (PS0RF) [8357] The sword dancers you know were they use the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8358] and some of it
George (PS0RG) [8359] I don't fancy that
John (PS0RF) [8360] is absolutely tremendous
Nanette (PS0RH) [8361] Mm, mm
John (PS0RF) [8362] the way they involve these complicated patterns
Nanette (PS0RH) [8363] but I think they were either last week or the week before they were there
George (PS0RG) [8364] Mm, what about the Scotch dancing, with the, over the swords?
John (PS0RF) [8365] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8366] You have to have a lot of plasters for your toes I believe
Nanette (PS0RH) [laugh]
John (PS0RF) [laugh]
George (PS0RG) [laugh]
John (PS0RF) [8367] No the Irish have the version of that too don't they?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8368] That's right the jug isn't it?
George (PS0RG) [8369] Jimmy Cagney
John (PS0RF) [8370] Pardon?
George (PS0RG) [8371] I'm a yankee doodle [laugh]
Nanette (PS0RH) [laugh]
George (PS0RG) [8372] Did you ever see that film?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8373] Yes four times
George (PS0RG) [8374] Oh he's
Nanette (PS0RH) [laugh]
George (PS0RG) [8375] sticks his bottom out
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8376] it's amazing how he changed isn't it from a
Nanette (PS0RH) [8377] There's a terrible article about him in the papers just last week about Mickey Rooney, he wrote some
George (PS0RG) [8378] Oh I like Mickey Rooney
Nanette (PS0RH) [8379] some, I, he wrote a biography the second part of this
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8380] biography and got a real
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8381] in L A
George (PS0RG) [8382] Yeah
John (PS0RF) [8383] What Mickey Rooney?
George (PS0RG) [8384] Mickey Rooney oh, oh
John (PS0RF) [8385] Well Cagney
George (PS0RG) [8386] biography, autobiography
John (PS0RF) [8387] was a great song and dance man, that was him, then he became
George (PS0RG) [8388] biography or autobiography?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8389] auto autobiography
George (PS0RG) [8390] Ooh I'd like to read that
John (PS0RF) [8391] then he went into the
George (PS0RG) [8392] I'd love to
John (PS0RF) [8393] dance
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8394] yeah
George (PS0RG) [8395] Oh Cagney oh that's how he started off public enemy
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8396] That's right
John (PS0RF) [8397] Oh he's in the song and dance before
George (PS0RG) [8398] Oh yes
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
John (PS0RF) [8399] before the gangster on the stage
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8400] and in films
John (PS0RF) [8401] but Edward G was a marvellous actor, he was a stage actor he was
George (PS0RG) [8402] Yeah
John (PS0RF) [8403] I like, I like him
Nanette (PS0RH) [8404] Yes very good I thought
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8405] I don't, there's no characters
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Nanette (PS0RH) [8406] have any more, there's very few anyway
George (PS0RG) [8407] It's like what's his name Sammy Davis, when he was alive he was on the telly doing all these and he said how can you do this fellows now he said?
John (PS0RF) [8408] They just train themselves, don't they?
George (PS0RG) [8409] Steve McQueen and er
Nanette (PS0RH) [8410] They have no personality themselves do they?
George (PS0RG) [8411] all, they're all, they're all , there's very little
Nanette (PS0RH) [8412] Mm
George (PS0RG) [8413] They're either shouting or ... but I mean they're getting millions now you get this
Nanette (PS0RH) [8414] Was it Michael Cain in that movie he was in over the weekend, er
George (PS0RG) [8415] I don't like
John (PS0RF) [8416] Oh Educating Rita
Nanette (PS0RH) [8417] Yes that's right
George (PS0RG) [8418] Yeah
Nanette (PS0RH) [8419] and one of the few movies where he's not going around shouting ... he was drinking, but he wasn't shouting
George (PS0RG) [8420] Yeah, quite good actually I like Julie Walters
Nanette (PS0RH) [8421] he was exactly acting in general
George (PS0RG) [8422] she's er
John (PS0RF) [8423] er actually a lot of his film is fairly quietly, he wasn't doing shouting in Zulu
George (PS0RG) [8424] He tends he tends to be
Nanette (PS0RH) [8425] No
George (PS0RG) [8426] stereotyped doesn't he, I
John (PS0RF) [8427] er mm, the Italian Affair
George (PS0RG) [8428] the only one I like him in, the one I like him in was the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
George (PS0RG) [8429] Sleuth, did you ever see that one?
John (PS0RF) [8430] Erm
George (PS0RG) [8431] Forget who wrote it, erm
John (PS0RF) [8432] no with Olivier
George (PS0RG) [8433] Olivia Hall, now that was brilliant that was
John (PS0RF) [8434] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8435] Have you seen it?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8436] Yeah
George (PS0RG) [8437] Oh
John (PS0RF) [8438] Mm
George (PS0RG) [8439] Of course Olivier, but he was good in that one, because he was playing his part, you know the [laugh] the jumped up hairdresser sort of thing [laugh]
Nanette (PS0RH) [laugh]
George (PS0RG) [8440] Yes, it was very good that
Nanette (PS0RH) [8441] Yes ... ah
George (PS0RG) [8442] but erm she'd been trying to get hold of George I think for about two hours.

48 (Tape 030404)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8443] No, in Weymouth where my son lives
John (PS0RF) [8444] Weymouth?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8445] Yeah, sells half tubs and erm fittings for the old houses, floor boards, doors, bit of furniture
John (PS0RF) [8446] All architectural salvage places
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8447] they're very cheap, they don't seem to know their value that, I got those two Ercols there
John (PS0RF) [8448] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8449] got the rocking chair, a wardrobe
John (PS0RF) [8450] the Ercols you say pay forty was it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8451] Forty pounds for those, they cost me about a hundred pounds those you know, the materials
John (PS0RF) [8452] Pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8453] They cost me about a hundred pounds altogether with the materials
John (PS0RF) [8454] What for the pair?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8455] Yeah, yeah ... dining chairs, six dining chairs they cost me seventy, I spent over thirty already on materials for the top material the foam ... you know it's, everything's so dear now isn't it?
John (PS0RF) [8456] Yes
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8457] what can you do?
John (PS0RF) [8458] Down there if somebody wanted to buy a chair like that
Raymond (PS0PN) [8459] Well
John (PS0RF) [8460] er a solid oak chair now is a hundred and fifty, two hundred quid a time
Raymond (PS0PN) [8461] yeah, I know, yeah that's right yeah, you can't skimp, you've just got to pay it
John (PS0RF) [8462] Pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8463] You can't skimp
John (PS0RF) [8464] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [8465] if you want to do the job correctly, er it's no good buying very cheap material if it's gonna ruin the chair is it?
John (PS0RF) [8466] That's right
Raymond (PS0PN) [8467] So you might as well splash out and
John (PS0RF) [8468] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8469] hope you get the money
John (PS0RF) [8470] Mind you those er Ercol, we, say your wife wants to keep them
Raymond (PS0PN) [8471] She kept them, yeah, yeah
John (PS0RF) [8472] but they're erm, they'd be about five hundred quid to buy for the two
Raymond (PS0PN) [8473] I you were saying, yeah , yeah oh I know the the good stuff
John (PS0RF) [8474] Did you write off for a catalogue?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8475] No I never got round to it John, I should of done, yeah, I'll, I'll have to do that
John (PS0RF) [8476] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8477] I shall have to do that because er ... er on your knees again er
Nanette (PS0RH) [8478] Yeah on me knees again for you
Raymond (PS0PN) [8479] are you gonna say a prayer?
[8480] ... Can't you get on the bench here er Nanette?
Nanette (PS0RH) [8481] Sorry
Raymond (PS0PN) [8482] Get on the bench
Nanette (PS0RH) [8483] well it was all, no it's OK, it's OK, I need some exercise so
Raymond (PS0PN) [8484] Oh I see you
John (PS0RF) [8485] Shall I do it for you while you're doing something else?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8486] Oh well

49 (Tape 030405)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8487] You could always say, oh well er they didn't stop me and you claim about half a million ... hey that's not bad drop something on your foot and say
Victoria (PS0RJ) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8488] I'm, I'm crippled now
Victoria (PS0RJ) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8489] I think we
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8490] [laughing] he's walking round like a lost soul []
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8491] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8492] It's a pain then isn't it when you're waiting for, why you waiting for machining is it?
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8493] Drill that out and drill some holes in here, oh
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8494] oh I see you want the advice from him
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8495] Eh?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8496] You want advice old George
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8497] I want, I want to know where the drill is so that I can use
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8498] drill's up in the, John's cupboard
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8499] Ah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8500] the electric drill
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8501] well I don't really want an electric one, I can see missing a hole on here and
Raymond (PS0PN) [8502] Oh, well the other one's in here
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8503] Ah alright
Raymond (PS0PN) [8504] the bits are in that grey box at that top there, er Victoria

50 (Tape 030406)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8505] Secretarial work, you know that sort of thing, is run up on computers
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8506] Oh aye, she's er, she's done a, she's done a course and ... hearing aid ... she's done a course and a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8507] How were they on batteries?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8508] Great, they last me a long time
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8509] Yeah, I did think here getting one, a tape, I often end up erm cutting the grass or something er ... get the Sunday extended news
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8510] I fancy er, you know because I've got a power mower
Raymond (PS0PN) [8511] Or your doing something and you don't want the others to hear because it's
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8512] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8513] it's gonna disturb them, yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8514] I must get one for my er garage er, er a tape recorder, I've got the wireless in there but oh you know er, most of the time it's the noise isn't it, you know what I mean, get the odd programme you want to listen to, but a lot of the time it's erm pop music and that which I can't, I can't abide and then your Jimmy Young and
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8515] I tell you what also, don't get Jimmy Young very often, I like him when he's interviewing
Raymond (PS0PN) [8516] Oh yeah he gets some
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8517] because he gets them to talk, he doesn't impose his views on other people
Raymond (PS0PN) [8518] No, no, no, no
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8519] he draws them out, which is what you want anyway
Raymond (PS0PN) [8520] and then you get some good er like a doctor goes on there and
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8521] So many of these er Brian they're trying to impose their
Raymond (PS0PN) [8522] Yes, views yeah
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8523] views
Raymond (PS0PN) [8524] mm, mm, which you don't want to hear do you?
Victoria (PS0RJ) [8525] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [8526] You say it should be

51 (Tape 030407)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8527] It's my son, I'm sort of playing it by ear, I'm not quite sure what I'm doing ... oh dear me ... not quite sure at all

52 (Tape 030501)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8528] I usually end up working harder.
Arthur (PS0RK) [8529] Well if we hadn't of had that shower I'd be working on me hedge now, but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [8530] Yeah I got some work and me boys got on some post putting up, he said, but mind you, it might er dry up I don't know, it looks a bit er, thick doesn't it?
[8531] You on today, all day?
Arthur (PS0RK) [8532] Pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8533] You on this afternoon, work?
Arthur (PS0RK) [8534] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8535] Oh dear
Arthur (PS0RK) [8536] But they've er put me forward an hour which is quite handy
Raymond (PS0PN) [8537] Yeah
Arthur (PS0RK) [8538] so I'm going in for twelve and finish for eight
Raymond (PS0PN) [8539] Mm, this is in Chester isn't it?
Arthur (PS0RK) [8540] No, no, Sandy Way
Raymond (PS0PN) [8541] Oh
Arthur (PS0RK) [8542] Sandy, Sandy Croft, Sandy Way
Raymond (PS0PN) [8543] By the time you get back it's nine o'clock I suppose
Arthur (PS0RK) [8544] Yeah, well, I mean nine o'clock and you, you used to be back sort of twenty past
Raymond (PS0PN) [8545] Yeah, oh well
Arthur (PS0RK) [8546] now I'm back at twenty past eight instead
Raymond (PS0PN) [8547] won't be long
Arthur (PS0RK) [8548] so that's a
Raymond (PS0PN) [8549] [laugh] , come on cheeky chops, anyway see you, bye
Arthur (PS0RK) [8550] See you.

53 (Tape 030502)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8551] Morning, how do you do?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8552] Hi ...
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Arthur (PS0RK) [8553] I know a lot
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Glyn (PS0RL) [8554] Yeah I know
Arthur (PS0RK) [8555] Yeah I was sure that's what our team wrote down cos that's what I wrote on the sheet
Glyn (PS0RL) [8556] Yeah, yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Glyn (PS0RL) [8557] yeah
Arthur (PS0RK) [8558] Oh well, do you want to have a word with
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Arthur (PS0RK) [8559] or
Glyn (PS0RL) [8560] Yeah I'm going to
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8561] Yeah, you should of said that
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Arthur (PS0RK) [laugh]
Glyn (PS0RL) [8562] Hello, I've got Mr here from Mold market
Arthur (PS0RK) [8563] Sshh
Glyn (PS0RL) [8564] he said he's been up there and there's nothing but boxing, there should be something from shouldn't there? ...
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Glyn (PS0RL) [8565] you didn't give her name or something
Arthur (PS0RK) [8566] Yes I did, I said
Glyn (PS0RL) [8567] You know what a mouth a bugger these stall markets are
Arthur (PS0RK) [8568] Oh shit
Glyn (PS0RL) [8569] now, yeah ... I know it's a daft thing, but what about erm
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8570] Yeah, well I'd asked er
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8571] she's not on for a while
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8572] I could bleep her if you want ... oh I'll have to have a word with them see what's happened ...
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8573] well it'll be on board
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8574] go and see
Arthur (PS0RK) [8575] Yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8576] Yes I'll do that, OK, ta.
[8577] No she's looked under the M's and the fax but, I'll have to have a word with Anthony when he comes back and see what the hell he's playing at .
Glyn (PS0RL) [8578] He might have
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8579] I know it's, I know it's
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Glyn (PS0RL) [8580] yeah, yeah, yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Glyn (PS0RL) [8581] OK
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8582] Alright?
Glyn (PS0RL) [8583] smashing
Raymond (PS0PN) [8584] Oh I
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8585] is there anything down for number two, nine, five please, barley twist table
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8586] Two, nine, five, nothing, but we've got fifteen
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8587] fifteen
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8588] number fifteen ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [8589] that'll be worth forty ain't it, done up?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8590] Should think so
Raymond (PS0PN) [8591] Anything down er for these here computers?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8592] Oh the wise one you're talking about five hundred, because that's worth about thirty two K
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8593] Mm, if you know what that is
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8594] Yeah erm they're out of offices I presume are they?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8595] Yeah mm, business
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8596] But erm, that one you'll be looking for about five hundred for the ways
Raymond (PS0PN) [8597] Ah, five hundred pounds mm, the
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8598] and the other one on the left hand side about two, seven, five
Raymond (PS0PN) [8599] mm yeah, well forget that Why don't these bloody things undo?
[8600] There we are
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8601] Somebody had a go yesterday on that waves, you know, but as the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8602] yeah
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8603] so er
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8604] so these are the sophisticated ones it
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8605] Oh, would be for that sort of money yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8606] they're probably, are they, er they're not a home one
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8607] Oh heck, well I don't know to be honest with you, something you'll be able to play games on
Raymond (PS0PN) [8608] Oh no, no, I didn't, I wasn't thinking of that, but er
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8609] a bit of a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8610] something about it, it's something in between that and
Raymond (PS0PN) [8611] about a fiver wouldn't you?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8612] [laugh] oh shut up you
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8613] Ah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8614] OK then.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8615] Concentration
Raymond (PS0PN) [8616] Oh I believe you've got to
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8617] in fact erm we only managed to get away with it by having the one
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8618] cost a lot er, thirty three percent very heavy
Raymond (PS0PN) [8619] Mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8620] erm, secondly the a citric acid, is it citric or not?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8621] Acetic acid or ammonia
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8622] No it's ammonia
Raymond (PS0PN) [8623] Well this is very heavy you mean, the ammonia is it?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8624] Don't know about that, that
Raymond (PS0PN) [8625] Oh
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8626] to concentration on H H O.
[8627] We only have household ammonia, if we have that and that is erm quite, quite low on concentration.
Raymond (PS0PN) [8628] Mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8629] I think myself on that the best thing to do is to get in touch with the local chemist
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8630] we often do that, that's what I suggest to people so they get chemicals that I don't have in
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8631] public relations get in touch with them and others
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8632] I see
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8633] yes public relations exercise I said
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8634] I see
Raymond (PS0PN) [8635] Oh
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8636] erm, you got, it can produce
Raymond (PS0PN) [8637] you've got to go to Merseyside though for that
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8638] No, no
Raymond (PS0PN) [8639] Oh
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8640] no you've not, I mean, yellow pages, local chemical firm, anything
Raymond (PS0PN) [8641] Oh I see
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8642] I mean the amount of it branch round here
Raymond (PS0PN) [8643] oh I see
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8644] mm, they don't
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8645] well then, then you could really, would be, I'll always start on, you could go down the police station and have a word with them, see what they think, and they'll probably put you in touch with somebody, cos they know everything they know what
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8646] Probably
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8647] region burns
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8648] and so on
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8649] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8650] Oh well, that's worth a try, well thank you very much, much obliged
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8651] Thank you
Raymond (PS0PN) [8652] bye

54 (Tape 030503)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8653] Counting your money?
Glyn (PS0RL) [8654] How much have you lost? [laugh] ...
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8655] Eight seventy two change, thanks
Glyn (PS0RL) [8656] Thank you
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8657] Do you want
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Glyn (PS0RL) [8658] No it's alright
Raymond (PS0PN) [8659] Bye

55 (Tape 030504)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8660] Hello sir,m , Mr Bentley said you'd might be able to help me
Hughes (PS0RM) [8661] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8662] I'm after the chemist in B , I'm after a couple of er, chemicals to do a reviver, a french polisher
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8663] these two here, get everything but this and, and this one here, as you can see it's only a tiny amount I require
Hughes (PS0RM) [8664] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8665] erm, I've tried the two chemists in Buckley, but er
Hughes (PS0RM) [8666] What's , what's this in there?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8667] Ammonia point eight eight O
Hughes (PS0RM) [8668] Oh eight eight ammonia, I don't think I've got any, anyway I'll have a look in it and acetic acid is the problem is it?
[8669] Is that, is that the one?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8670] That's acetic acid but it's got to be this
Hughes (PS0RM) [8671] Thirty three percent, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [8672] I can get all the other things ...
Hughes (PS0RM) [8673] Have we got any acetic acid in here
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8674] er
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Hughes (PS0RM) [8675] more, then I can give it to somebody else and whatever you know and ...

56 (Tape 030505)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8676] How are you, love?
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Hayley (PS0RN) [8677] No, yes we have
Raymond (PS0PN) [8678] Don't let us down Hayley
Hayley (PS0RN) [laugh]
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [8679] Ah it's all there, how's mum and dad?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8680] Oh they're fine
Raymond (PS0PN) [8681] Oh good, how's er Jane?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8682] Oh she's alright
Raymond (PS0PN) [8683] Karen's gone back now overseas?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8684] Yeah Karen's still in Canada
Raymond (PS0PN) [8685] Came over for their wedding didn't she, was it?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8686] Yeah she was also over at Christmas
Raymond (PS0PN) [8687] Oh I see, oh made a life there hasn't she?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8688] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8689] Ah?
[8690] Yeah, I don't blame her, not much left here is there?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8691] No not really [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8692] How's you mum anyway?
[8693] She's still baby minding?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8694] No, no, she's, Mark's at school now
Raymond (PS0PN) [8695] I used to see her
Hayley (PS0RN) [8696] so
Raymond (PS0PN) [8697] going round er by
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8698] the little one
Hayley (PS0RN) [8699] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [8700] Ooh good grief, oh gee whiz
Hayley (PS0RN) [8701] I know he's five months and Jane's got two little ones now
Raymond (PS0PN) [8702] God, where does she live now?
[8703] She was in
Hayley (PS0RN) [8704] She lives in
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8705] That's right, yeah I think she does at
Hayley (PS0RN) [8706] Yeah
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [8707] Lose track we do
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Hayley (PS0RN) [8708] I haven't seen them for a while
Raymond (PS0PN) [8709] Well I saw them at the, er round the corner at Mount Man Road, on that estate
Hayley (PS0RN) [8710] Oh yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [8711] with your hubby, you know when you were there one day?
Hayley (PS0RN) [8712] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [8713] But er, he was that busy he didn't see me [laugh] yeah
Hayley (PS0RN) [8714] Oh yeah, he was trying to get the bungalow finished so we can sell that down there
Raymond (PS0PN) [8715] Oh, oh.
[8716] Well time marches on
Hayley (PS0RN) [8717] It does yeah.
[8718] Yeah well anyway I'll see you again, bye
Raymond (PS0PN) [8719] Well anyway remember us to them won't you?
[8720] Bye love, bye

57 (Tape 030506)

Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8721] How many K did he say?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8722] I've no idea
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8723] A thousand?
[8724] I've forgotten what he said now, something like ten K or something was it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8725] Yes
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8726] Can I have this please? ... thank you ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [humming]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8727] Lovely, right
Raymond (PS0PN) [8728] OK thank you

58 (Tape 030507)

Margaret (PS0PP) [8729] Can I have a couple of er chicken fillets please?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8730] Yeah ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [8731] That's gonna be over a pound ...
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8732] Three eighty four
Margaret (PS0PP) [8733] Yes that'll do fine thanks, have you got any bones or bits for the dogs please? ...
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8734] There you are
Margaret (PS0PP) [8735] That's lovely, thanks very much
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8736] Ta love
Margaret (PS0PP) [8737] I haven't got any smaller I'm afraid
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8738] Alright love ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [8739] Fixed up ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [8740] It's that, nothing on there that makes the noise
Raymond (PS0PN) [8741] Mm I'm sure that holding it out like this one can do
Margaret (PS0PP) [8742] Yes, yes I know ...
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8743] Five love, fifteen for twenty
Margaret (PS0PP) [8744] Thanks very much
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8745] OK thanks ta ra

59 (Tape 030508)

Margaret (PS0PP) [8746] Been flat out this morning
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8747] Yeah ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [8748] Friday night's your worse I suppose and Saturday on Saturday
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8749] Well no I don't work on the nights anyway, you know we're full time so full time just don't work nights
Margaret (PS0PP) [8750] Just take time out
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8751] just the days, mm, well Thursday and Friday are terrible
Margaret (PS0PP) [8752] mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [8753] Yes I imagine
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8754] never stop all day Thursday and Friday ... we have a lull about lunch time on a Wednesday and Thursday and Friday but that's it, you know it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [8755] mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8756] non stop all day.
Raymond (PS0PN) [8757] mm
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8758] Seventeen seventy two please
Margaret (PS0PP) [8759] Oh forgive me love I didn't even look to see what it was
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8760] Yes twenty, thank you ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [8761] Good job you've got marvellous men at home, is it true ladies?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8762] [laugh] Mine's a
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Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8763] I couldn't live without him, he does my washing, my ironing
Raymond (PS0PN) [8764] Are you listening to this?
Margaret (PS0PP) [8765] Well trained
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8766] and working as well
Margaret (PS0PP) [8767] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [8768] Oh yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [8769] very good
Raymond (PS0PN) [8770] hang on to him, hang on to him
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [8771] I will, yeah.

60 (Tape 030509)

Raymond (PS0PN) [8772] Alright Norm, I've got fixed up
Norman (PS0RD) [8773] Hello
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Raymond (PS0PN) [8774] I thought I'd let you know, he's a handy chap that, the wood
Norman (PS0RD) [8775] Ooh er, down the
Raymond (PS0PN) [8776] Yeah
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Norman (PS0RD) [8777] bank, I
Raymond (PS0PN) [8778] I thought he was gonna say no this guy but er, erm, what's his name?
[8779] Steven
Norman (PS0RD) [8780] That's right Steven, that's Yobbie's lad
Raymond (PS0PN) [8781] he said er is it your own, what is our wood he said, what I said no, he said er
Norman (PS0RD) [8782] Sit down a minute ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [8783] he said you know what is it and I showed him a piece like, he said oh I he said yes, I said I've taken the nails out that I didn't see, he said oh I've got a metal detector here
Norman (PS0RD) [8784] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8785] a proper one, hi Holly, alright love, so I went, left it and then I went called back last night after college and he said oh I haven't done it yet come on he said we'll whiz it on the band saw, put it on the band saw and he'd taken two nails out that you couldn't see you know the, the old stamped cast iron ones, the ends had snapped off
Norman (PS0RD) [8786] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8787] there inside the wood and he dug those out.
Norman (PS0RD) [8788] He found them before putting them through the saw?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8789] Oh I yeah, he got this, this er must of been a good metal detector you know
Norman (PS0RD) [8790] Ooh, I say
Raymond (PS0PN) [8791] Three pounds that was for doing four of those long lengths you know and, and a short one
Norman (PS0RD) [8792] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8793] which I hope might
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Norman (PS0RD) [8794] just think, think of what it would of cost to get them boards and you wouldn't of got them as easy as that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [8795] No, well actually, he got a load, what was I gonna say, he got a load of old pine there you see
Norman (PS0RD) [8796] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8797] yellow pine, but they're all sizes, I said oh I said you've got some nice old pine, he said oh there's two guys come use it for furniture
Norman (PS0RD) [8798] Yeah, mm, mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [8799] two big firms, that's all he
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Norman (PS0RD) [8800] ah well, we, we did er, that house we did in, in er Kingsley, well the other side of Kingsley by Northwich for er, he's the managing director of Tarmac for the North West Division and there he bought this house at Kingsley and er we added on to it on the kitchen was a complete wing that we built, a single storey and the roof spars had to show we had to put imitation
Raymond (PS0PN) [8801] Ah
Norman (PS0RD) [8802] pitch pine spars straight up to the purlin and the purlin had to be axed
Raymond (PS0PN) [8803] Exposed
Norman (PS0RD) [8804] just as he wanted them, there was real oldy-worldy and the kitchen furniture was made down at Buckfastely in Devon and that was all re-claim pine
Raymond (PS0PN) [8805] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [8806] yellow pine and all that
Raymond (PS0PN) [8807] it's beautiful too
Norman (PS0RD) [8808] and there was even the worm holes in some of the wood
Raymond (PS0PN) [8809] Ha, ha
Norman (PS0RD) [8810] and that had to be there
Raymond (PS0PN) [8811] Oh yeah treat them you see, treat them worm holes
Norman (PS0RD) [8812] and he was never on his own doing it
Hilary (PS0RP) [8813] Well you know our old house was built with that wasn't it?
Norman (PS0RD) [8814] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [8815] Peach pine, and when we took the porch down which had been up nearly a hundred years
Norman (PS0RD) [8816] Yeah, mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [8817] there was no rot
Raymond (PS0PN) [8818] No
Hilary (PS0RP) [8819] there was no rot in the windows, the old windows were a hundred years old
Raymond (PS0PN) [8820] well it's full of erm ... full of resin you see and
Norman (PS0RD) [8821] the windows were perfect
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Raymond (PS0PN) [8822] the woodworm don't seem to be too keen on it does he?
Norman (PS0RD) [8823] Oh there was a little tiny
Raymond (PS0PN) [8824] They're, the woodworm don't seem to be
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Raymond (PS0PN) [8825] don't like the taste you see
Hilary (PS0RP) [8826] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [8827] oh it's too, they like sweet wood
Hilary (PS0RP) [8828] well those yeah, those bark you took out didn't you, out of the porch
Raymond (PS0PN) [8829] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [8830] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [8831] square box like, there wasn't a bit of
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Hilary (PS0RP) [8832] it was a pity to take it down, but
Norman (PS0RD) [8833] six inch square
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Norman (PS0RD) [8834] oh like the Jacobean style er ... the er ...
Hilary (PS0RP) [8835] The black and white thing
Raymond (PS0PN) [8836] The frame work
Norman (PS0RD) [8837] yeah all the frame work was sixty six, all morticed and tenoned and dowelled and there were
Raymond (PS0PN) [8838] Marvellous ah
Norman (PS0RD) [8839] brick inset was all the brick and then plastered over and that gave the black and white effect, but that was the original and the, the proper way to do it
Raymond (PS0PN) [8840] all those years
Norman (PS0RD) [8841] I mean today they do, they plaster a wall and they
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Hilary (PS0RP) [8842] Even the cellars got them
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Raymond (PS0PN) [8843] oh yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [8844] weren't they?
Norman (PS0RD) [8845] That's, that's and that's how it's done today
Raymond (PS0PN) [8846] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [8847] Even the trellis were dry
Raymond (PS0PN) [8848] but that's there's
Norman (PS0RD) [8849] over the
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Norman (PS0RD) [8850] they put pellets and even the pellets sticking out thinking that people
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Norman (PS0RD) [8851] but there's all sorts of ways of
Raymond (PS0PN) [8852] Oh I
Hilary (PS0RP) [8853] It was er well built that
Raymond (PS0PN) [8854] well this chap says there's er, oh he says how much is, he said oh he says, nine by one pound, pound a foot, I said good grief pound a foot, so I mean start talking about six by threes
Margaret (PS0PP) [8855] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [8856] remember he, he used to go with the
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Norman (PS0RD) [8857] Steven's sister still keeps the pub in the village in
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Hilary (PS0RP) [8858] yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [8859] Oh yes
Norman (PS0RD) [8860] oh aye they keep a pub and
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Norman (PS0RD) [8861] erm our Steve, I remember Steven, Steven's
Hilary (PS0RP) [8862] about
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Norman (PS0RD) [8863] aye that's right
Hilary (PS0RP) [8864] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [8865] I always remember working on the, on the pub I, I, I did a lot of work on there for them and er he got some panelling
Hilary (PS0RP) [8866] To all hours of the morning .
Norman (PS0RD) [8867] he got panelling from er a big hall outside St. Helen's and er, he built this big room onto the pub oh this is going back nineteen sixty one
Hilary (PS0RP) [8868] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [8869] isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8870] Yeah, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [8871] Is it sixty one?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8872] Yeah
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Norman (PS0RD) [8873] it's thirty, thirty one years ago
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Norman (PS0RD) [8874] he built this on and the country pub was just coming into the, you know, people were getting out in their cars and that, there was no breathalyser or anything and the
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Norman (PS0RD) [8875] could see the future in it, and he built this big room didn't he?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8876] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [8877] And I
Raymond (PS0PN) [8878] Oh
Norman (PS0RD) [8879] panelled it all with er, with a
Raymond (PS0PN) [8880] a little bit of foresight wasn't it for those days?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8881] Mind you it's, it's a free house and that
Norman (PS0RD) [8882] Oh it's a free house
Raymond (PS0PN) [8883] Yes that's right
Norman (PS0RD) [8884] and wasn't worried then.
Hilary (PS0RP) [8885] What did he pay that for and the old post office he got them, it was cheap
Norman (PS0RD) [8886] He got the old post office and the two cottages and the pub for two thousand, eight hundred I think
Raymond (PS0PN) [8887] Oh god, mind you it is all relative isn't it?
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Norman (PS0RD) [8888] Mind you that was in nineteen sixty
Raymond (PS0PN) [8889] Yeah, that's right I mean he
Norman (PS0RD) [8890] fifty nine, sixty isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8891] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [8892] Was it?
[8893] Oh aye, but fifty eight, fifty nine
Raymond (PS0PN) [8894] It's still cheap really isn't it when you
Hilary (PS0RP) [8895] Oh that was cheap then
Norman (PS0RD) [8896] and how I could, we'd see him passing and he used to keep, he used to live in a li , like it was a farm place further on, Sand Mill Cafe, I don't know whether you've seen it along that road
Raymond (PS0PN) [8897] Oh I don't know
Norman (PS0RD) [8898] but anyhow it, well they, they were there and he bought the pub didn't he and they were moving on the Saturday and he came on the Saturday morning and he cried take the furniture to pieces, some of the furniture, the wardrobes and there was a dining room table that they couldn't get into the pub, could I dismantle them and re-assemble them again and that was the first time I'd ever met him weren't I?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8899] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [8900] And do you know what it ... every spare minute I had after, he was after me wasn't he?
[8901] Can you do this for us, can you do that for us
Margaret (PS0PP) [8902] Can you come away from it?
Norman (PS0RD) [8903] and then he kept, he was on, will you come and work for me will you come, I was working for Holmes at the time
Hilary (PS0RP) [8904] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [8905] wasn't I?
[8906] And he had, he had me with making sheds, you know where the leader er printing place is now?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8907] In Mold?
Norman (PS0RD) [8908] Over Axton Road
Raymond (PS0PN) [8909] Oh yes
Norman (PS0RD) [8910] when you come out of Mold
Raymond (PS0PN) [8911] oh near the new what's
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Norman (PS0RD) [8912] that's right, I, well
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Norman (PS0RD) [8913] had a yard there and an old building, that's where he had, that's where he operated from and he used to get all this second hand timber demolition timber from Liverpool and Berkenhead and all that and he reckoned then that for every hundred pound he spent on demolition he had a thousand pound back
Raymond (PS0PN) [8914] Cor ten times
Norman (PS0RD) [8915] taking it to the options
Raymond (PS0PN) [8916] that is
Norman (PS0RD) [8917] and that's how he made his money
Raymond (PS0PN) [8918] But have they always been able to machine it Norm I mean to my mind it's always been sort of, you know, you buy, whatever they are like for afters and that and that's how you use them to make your garden shed or whatever
Norman (PS0RD) [8919] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8920] whereas it looks as though, you know this chap, they found a way to make sure there's no metal in it and now the machine it
Norman (PS0RD) [8921] all that, that they went through though over the years I mean, all, all he did
Raymond (PS0PN) [8922] yeah must of done
Norman (PS0RD) [8923] was to get the second hand timber and, and he had a couple of lads off the dole in Mold there, knocking the nails well all he had to do
Raymond (PS0PN) [8924] De-nailing
Norman (PS0RD) [8925] was break the nails
Raymond (PS0PN) [8926] that's right, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [8927] there were still nails left in but the farmers
Raymond (PS0PN) [8928] tab them all
Norman (PS0RD) [8929] went mad on it for
Raymond (PS0PN) [8930] yes
Norman (PS0RD) [8931] posts and
Raymond (PS0PN) [8932] that's right
Norman (PS0RD) [8933] er
Raymond (PS0PN) [8934] yeah, but that, that was the main usage
Norman (PS0RD) [8935] they had to share
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Raymond (PS0PN) [8936] wasn't it?
Norman (PS0RD) [8937] yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8938] But you see now, the shortage of good timber
Norman (PS0RD) [8939] and then
Raymond (PS0PN) [8940] now they use them for furniture
Norman (PS0RD) [8941] now the best of the timber he had Gottonam Peters, the builders that were, I mean they were building a lot then and I'm going back now to the fifties and the sixties Gottonam Peters they'd done a lot of building in Upton in Chester and erm, developments er expect building sort of thing and er, they used to buy in all the three by twos and four by threes that he could get, the good ones second hand
Hilary (PS0RP) [8942] [whispering] Do you want a coffee [] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8943] No, I'd better get back Hilda
Hilary (PS0RP) [8944] Are you sure, you're welcome
Raymond (PS0PN) [8945] she's erm
Norman (PS0RD) [8946] they er
Raymond (PS0PN) [8947] put the kettle on there, I'll be in trouble
Norman (PS0RD) [8948] and they used to buy it all off him for studding
Raymond (PS0PN) [8949] Yes
Norman (PS0RD) [8950] because it was dry
Raymond (PS0PN) [8951] perfect
Norman (PS0RD) [8952] It was perfect
Raymond (PS0PN) [8953] it was perfect for that
Norman (PS0RD) [8954] they had no movement in the ceilings or the walls or any of the plasterboard
Raymond (PS0PN) [8955] Yes, yes
Norman (PS0RD) [8956] and all of, all of the good clean three be twos that he could find them that were season, they had, they, they took it all
Raymond (PS0PN) [8957] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [8958] as much as you could have
Hilary (PS0RP) [8959] That panelling though that you took out of that hall was beautiful .
Norman (PS0RD) [8960] but that panelling , that hall panelling was beautiful, I
Raymond (PS0PN) [8961] Oh
Hilary (PS0RP) [8962] Pity those places came down wasn't it?
Norman (PS0RD) [8963] and it's a, to, to go up there now
Raymond (PS0PN) [8964] Shame
Norman (PS0RD) [8965] it's still there, I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [8966] mm.
Norman (PS0RD) [8967] that room has still got the panelling in
Hilary (PS0RP) [8968] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8969] Well did you ever go, what did you say
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Hilary (PS0RP) [8970] yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [8971] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8972] It's a terrible name for me, where did we go last week?
Hilary (PS0RP) [8973] Nantwich did you say?
Raymond (PS0PN) [8974] Nan , Nantwich
Norman (PS0RD) [8975] Oh
Hilary (PS0RP) [8976] In
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Norman (PS0RD) [8977] oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [8978] Ah and the antique shops there
Norman (PS0RD) [8979] Oh, it's full of antiques, there's a lovely little town Nantwich
Raymond (PS0PN) [8980] there's one chap there erm ... no he didn't say it is, er Adams, I said to him you got, you haven't got a place in Chester, that's another Adams, no, no he said there's no Chester, the stuff he had in one, he had a, an oak settle, sixteen something, now there's wood worm in that
Norman (PS0RD) [8981] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8982] but the shine on it
Norman (PS0RD) [8983] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [8984] and it was just being polished by hand, you know, christ.
[8985] Oh dear I'm in trouble now
Margaret (PS0PP) [8986] No I didn't
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Raymond (PS0PN) [8987] I'm in trouble now
Hilary (PS0RP) [8988] Come in Margaret
Raymond (PS0PN) [8989] I'm very sorry
Norman (PS0RD) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [8990] come in, don't knock the door
Margaret (PS0PP) [8991] I knew it
Norman (PS0RD) [8992] Come in
Hilary (PS0RP) [8993] [laugh] come in
Margaret (PS0PP) [8994] I was just saying get a move on cos we've got to go to Paul's
Raymond (PS0PN) [8995] Have you spoken to him?
Margaret (PS0PP) [8996] I haven't yet no, but I think he's outside mixing cement, we said we'd go and give him a hand to put his posts in
Hilary (PS0RP) [8997] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [8998] so, I come in quickly hoping that you've done
Raymond (PS0PN) [8999] We hope, hope
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [9000] I, I'm in a
Raymond (PS0PN) [9001] Hoping that you say it was raining and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [9002] Ooh, who's been painting?
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9003] oh this look's nice doesn't it?

61 (Tape 030510)

Margaret (PS0PP) [9004] I'm just trying to remember
Raymond (PS0PN) [9005] Have you done a, is this different Norm or
Hilary (PS0RP) [9006] I tell you, it's this wall
Margaret (PS0PP) [9007] that's right
Norman (PS0RD) [9008] This wall I put in, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9009] Norman is this furniture
Margaret (PS0PP) [9010] Yes
Norman (PS0RD) [9011] That was there
Raymond (PS0PN) [9012] Is this furniture different is it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9013] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [9014] No, I
Hilary (PS0RP) [9015] No, that was
Norman (PS0RD) [9016] That was over there
Raymond (PS0PN) [9017] Oh you took
Norman (PS0RD) [9018] that was over there on that wall
Raymond (PS0PN) [9019] You go into and lounge and it's just moved every couple of days isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [9020] He's lucky, he says what have you done now?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9021] Me mother was like that, me dad said I don't know whether I'm coming home to the right house [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9022] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [9023] He says I'm gonna fall over the blooming stuff if you keep mov it's nice so isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9024] We never get it right , oh it'll be nice when it's all done
Margaret (PS0PP) [9025] So, yours was like ours was really, that, you went straight through there into the kitchen didn't you?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9026] There was a little porch here , well you could never
Norman (PS0RD) [9027] That's
Hilary (PS0RP) [9028] do anything because I keep moving the chair
Norman (PS0RD) [9029] there was a hole there where that arch is, there was a little hole that
Raymond (PS0PN) [9030] That's right yeah a little entrance hall
Hilary (PS0RP) [9031] And the door was down there
Norman (PS0RD) [9032] there was a wall there wasn't it, coming down?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9033] That's right, yes, yes, going into the, going in the hall
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9034] which is a terrible idea I think
Hilary (PS0RP) [9035] It's silly really isn't it?
[9036] At least all the way through you know
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9037] I couldn't believe it when I first saw it
Hilary (PS0RP) [9038] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [9039] I thought it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9040] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9041] Had a doorway with it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9042] Yeah, it's in its
Hilary (PS0RP) [9043] We'll get straight some time
Margaret (PS0PP) [9044] It's much better
Norman (PS0RD) [9045] I've always wanted
Raymond (PS0PN) [9046] It's hard to imagine ...
Hilary (PS0RP) [9047] It's been a hard couple of weeks with this bathroom, Norm's worked a couple of days, you know and in between of course they, put just a shower and a proper shower
Norman (PS0RD) [9048] Perhaps, when we were looking at bungalows, other than the descriptions of them and the pamphlets and they say ooh
Raymond (PS0PN) [9049] Oh what have they, what's he done in there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9050] They say and in a hall which
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Norman (PS0RD) [9051] and we came to look at this one and it had got an inner hall and in the position was
Hilary (PS0RP) [9052] so he's had to move all the, the pipework and everything
Raymond (PS0PN) [9053] Yes, oh yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9054] which is a big job
Raymond (PS0PN) [9055] Yes, that is
Hilary (PS0RP) [9056] We're on the fiddly bits now, finish nearly grouting and
Margaret (PS0PP) [9057] Yes, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9058] Now did you say you've got the same trouble as us with the conden ,condensa
Hilary (PS0RP) [9059] Still got condensation
Margaret (PS0PP) [9060] That's right yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9061] even with the new system
Raymond (PS0PN) [9062] Have to try and get , to get one of these trays I think and try that
Margaret (PS0PP) [9063] Yes, yeah, well we do I mean well we had to take our chimney down
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9064] oh
Norman (PS0RD) [9065] and then you see we only want one bad
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Norman (PS0RD) [9066] and then eventually that'll be like a little sitting room
Margaret (PS0PP) [9067] oh so you
Raymond (PS0PN) [9068] no ours is a, no ours is a, we had, ours only three years old, so er, yours actually
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9069] It sits pretty well
Raymond (PS0PN) [9070] Oh no, we've got a space under ours
Margaret (PS0PP) [9071] And then it gets the sun at the back, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [9072] it's not a modern one yeah, yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9073] It means there's only those two little bits at the side
Margaret (PS0PP) [9074] What have you got on
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9075] oh that's better
Hilary (PS0RP) [9076] of the system
Raymond (PS0PN) [9077] Yes that's right
Hilary (PS0RP) [9078] that's strip it now, so erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9079] Oh I see, yes, oh that's better than really
Hilary (PS0RP) [9080] it is better
Raymond (PS0PN) [9081] we've got the hall underneath of ours
Hilary (PS0RP) [9082] Will you stop it
Raymond (PS0PN) [9083] I have asked a couple of guys at the college you know and one fellow said the tray, oh he said, you can buy this tray from a builders, oh he said you can make a, a cover and I said oh god, make it the same colour as the mat and the er
Hilary (PS0RP) [9084] This is it, this is it , I suppose if we could surround it in wood or
Raymond (PS0PN) [9085] the damage
Hilary (PS0RP) [9086] polystyrene or something, but then it looks ugly doesn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9087] Oh I would of thought so
Hilary (PS0RP) [9088] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9089] bloody awful
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9090] put a shower we have, gone
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9091] ours, you can smell ours in here, I mean you can smell
Hilary (PS0RP) [9092] It's rotten isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9093] sometimes you know damp
Hilary (PS0RP) [9094] Mm, mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9095] and that's all it is
Hilary (PS0RP) [9096] Well ours was loose, pipe was loose
Raymond (PS0PN) [9097] Ah what's going on here?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9098] alright, oh we've gotta change the door
Norman (PS0RD) [9099] Yeah the door's gonna open this way
Hilary (PS0RP) [9100] gonna open the other way round then go into the airing cupboard
Raymond (PS0PN) [9101] Oh you see, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [9102] Oh I see yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9103] see their toilet
Margaret (PS0PP) [9104] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9105] it's co , it sits on there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9106] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9107] but you still
Margaret (PS0PP) [9108] yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9109] get it other sides
Raymond (PS0PN) [9110] ours doesn't , ours, you can get your hand right underneath ours
Margaret (PS0PP) [9111] with got the pipe, that's right, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9112] not an old fashioned one
Margaret (PS0PP) [9113] I wonder if that's why
Raymond (PS0PN) [9114] but the diff , there are two different types aren't they Norm?
Norman (PS0RD) [9115] Are they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9116] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9117] Oh yeah he said
Margaret (PS0PP) [9118] you still get the condensation
Raymond (PS0PN) [9119] you'd have to see
Norman (PS0RD) [9120] Oh we still get the condensation
Margaret (PS0PP) [9121] and the floor at the back is er
Norman (PS0RD) [9122] Yeah still there
Raymond (PS0PN) [9123] Oh yours is a, I, but, how's the, of course we've got skirting board in ours
Margaret (PS0PP) [9124] Mind you don't forget it depends how many times you flush as soon as you put
Raymond (PS0PN) [9125] and it's, it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [9126] cold water rushes in again
Norman (PS0RD) [9127] I, I, I
Raymond (PS0PN) [9128] Oh that's nice
Hilary (PS0RP) [9129] Right
Margaret (PS0PP) [9130] once the room, once the water's got to the temperature of the room if you're not using the loo
Hilary (PS0RP) [9131] That's right
Raymond (PS0PN) [9132] Oh so you've got no bath now
Norman (PS0RD) [9133] No, no bath
Raymond (PS0PN) [9134] you'll have to have one in the sink
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9135] that's, that's nice though isn't it?
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9136] we couldn't lift our leg to get in the bath [laugh]
Norman (PS0RD) [9137] [laugh] But they're, but they're had a toilet too close to the house you see, so
Hilary (PS0RP) [9138] Ah that's a point now it might pull
Margaret (PS0PP) [9139] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9140] so
Hilary (PS0RP) [9141] especially what he says
Margaret (PS0PP) [9142] yeah, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9143] that's the thing
Margaret (PS0PP) [9144] that's a good idea
Raymond (PS0PN) [9145] It looks nice there Norm we had one similar to this didn't we?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9146] Well in the other house we had, we had like an airing cupboard here and we took that out and had a shower where the airing cupboard was and we would of had
Raymond (PS0PN) [9147] But we had
Hilary (PS0RP) [9148] well we would of put a bath and a shower, but there isn't room
Raymond (PS0PN) [9149] we had enough room didn't we for them both
Hilary (PS0RP) [9150] We tossed, we ummed and ahhed, but anyway that's what we
Margaret (PS0PP) [9151] Yes, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9152] ended up with
Margaret (PS0PP) [9153] it's better to have this hall accessed though isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9154] Oh yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9155] To all the rooms
Norman (PS0RD) [9156] Ah definitely
Margaret (PS0PP) [9157] I mean ours is only very, very narrow but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [9158] Terrible idea actually
Hilary (PS0RP) [9159] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [9160] but at least you can get
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Norman (PS0RD) [9161] never liked it, never liked it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9162] cos somebody's in the lounge and you want to take, somebody comes to the kitchen you can
Hilary (PS0RP) [9163] And that back door is where we get all the cold
Margaret (PS0PP) [9164] That's right blows this way doesn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9165] but we get away with that sometimes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9166] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9167] cos we've got access at
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9168] yes that's right
Norman (PS0RD) [9169] of course the wind is
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Norman (PS0RD) [9170] a bit isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9171] It's much better that though isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9172] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9173] It's a much better idea, I mean ours
Norman (PS0RD) [9174] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9175] the
Hilary (PS0RP) [9176] Every meal for instance
Margaret (PS0PP) [9177] Well if we've been on a drive like you are
Norman (PS0RD) [9178] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9179] opposite
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9180] I, I think we would have
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9181] it's a better idea though isn't it
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9182] because you feel as though you
Norman (PS0RD) [9183] Oh yeah, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9184] you're exposed up to there always don't you?
Norman (PS0RD) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9185] You're forever closing the blind or the curtains
Margaret (PS0PP) [9186] Yeah, yeah, I know that's it
Hilary (PS0RP) [9187] Well all they can see is the top of my head so I'm alright
Margaret (PS0PP) [9188] that's all you need though isn't it?
Norman (PS0RD) [9189] And then, and then, me workshop's up here
Margaret (PS0PP) [9190] Oh gosh, I mean, well you can, you can stand up and use the
Raymond (PS0PN) [9191] can't you?
Norman (PS0RD) [9192] Well you see, the thing is when , with that there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9193] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9194] and that wall there I can put all the weight I want down the middle
Margaret (PS0PP) [9195] That's right, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9196] I, that's an i , oh there's the two walls you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [9197] cos there's the two walls, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9198] yeah that's right
Norman (PS0RD) [9199] cos they're, they're, they're taking the weight
Raymond (PS0PN) [9200] cos normally the, normal the joist aren't strong enough are they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9201] did you do a brick wall here or
Norman (PS0RD) [9202] This is brick but that's stud wall
Margaret (PS0PP) [9203] That's stud wall, yeah ours is a stud wall at the bottom
Norman (PS0RD) [9204] but they're just as strong you see, the, the
Raymond (PS0PN) [9205] well it doesn't, see it makes any difference yeah you've gotta
Norman (PS0RD) [9206] Yeah, no, no difference
Margaret (PS0PP) [9207] Oh I
Hilary (PS0RP) [9208] Smaller if anything
Margaret (PS0PP) [9209] just
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9210] you've got a window there
Hilary (PS0RP) [9211] we did have a light yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9212] Yes that's a good idea
Raymond (PS0PN) [9213] Let the light in, that's an idea yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9214] Yeah good idea that Norm yes, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9215] It does help and he twisted it so that you can put your ornaments there and there you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [9216] Yes, oh he's
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9217] inventor and all
Raymond (PS0PN) [9218] oh it's easier innit, to get to the room?
Norman (PS0RD) [9219] Pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9220] It's so much easier
Norman (PS0RD) [9221] Oh I like, I like it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9222] Well that's right , I mean you get it to
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9223] I'm surprised Geoff hasn't told you this over the years
Norman (PS0RD) [9224] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9225] it's er, there you are I suppose
Margaret (PS0PP) [9226] Oh yes , do you ever look in that chap down opposite the er, the Downs, well it'll be the Downs
Raymond (PS0PN) [9227] see some guys would have to get somebody in to do the lot wouldn't they?
Norman (PS0RD) [9228] That's right
Hilary (PS0RP) [9229] Oh yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9230] Not everyone can knock a wall out or turn their hand to it
Norman (PS0RD) [9231] No, no.
Raymond (PS0PN) [9232] I'll have a go, it doesn't, I don't say I do it right, but I'll have a go
Norman (PS0RD) [9233] Well as you say
Margaret (PS0PP) [9234] so
Hilary (PS0RP) [9235] I remember that as a girl
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9236] that's handy that isn't Norm, yeah, have this for a den
Norman (PS0RD) [9237] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9238] and know it
Norman (PS0RD) [9239] once when they come up here I had to fetch the telly out the bedroom you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [9240] Oh I that's nice, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9241] and er, we had to set it up here and we sit here watching the telly and they'd sit here for hours
Raymond (PS0PN) [9242] Ooh I'd love that kids
Norman (PS0RD) [9243] and er when it's time to go home I say let's get going, there's nobody here, [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Norman (PS0RD) [9244] they'd stop all night I think if they could, so
Hilary (PS0RP) [9245] Mm, that's right
Raymond (PS0PN) [9246] It's like the little one said last, she said, can we come and stay here for the weekend you know, and stay up in Aunty Bonnie's room, they call upstairs, and Margaret's face she said, well er, my god she's got some good stuff up there you know, furniture
Norman (PS0RD) [9247] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9248] but er, they wouldn't do any harm like
Norman (PS0RD) [9249] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [9250] I suppose
Norman (PS0RD) [9251] No, I think our two, they'll, they'll stop eventually once they get a bit, a bit older.
[9252] Michael's still a little bit small, well he's coming up to four now in May, so, but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [9253] But the first thing they do is put the video on, they know how to work it and everything
Norman (PS0RD) [9254] Oh they do, yeah, when we go down er, er down to Alan's they, David he's got it all
Raymond (PS0PN) [9255] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9256] and Michael is coming, he's, he's watching what David's doing and he's following suit now and he's only four.
Raymond (PS0PN) [9257] Got this video game now, they know how to work all these
Norman (PS0RD) [9258] Yeah, oh I
Raymond (PS0PN) [9259] and I can't stand the noise me, I hear it going beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep
Norman (PS0RD) [9260] Yeah, yeah, oh I
Raymond (PS0PN) [9261] Yeah, you've got to have the interest ain't you Norman?
Norman (PS0RD) [9262] Of course you see they're growing up with them sort of things, we
Raymond (PS0PN) [9263] That's all they know
Norman (PS0RD) [9264] we, we er, we had to make it up
Raymond (PS0PN) [9265] me , I, I got, I took me old three put out the other day and ... so they said got your
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9266] got the college ones you know
Norman (PS0RD) [9267] I
Raymond (PS0PN) [9268] about ten now and they're all in this white ones are metric, she said what the hell's this she said, I mean I've had it thirty four, five years something like that, forty years
Norman (PS0RD) [9269] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9270] what the bloody hell's this she said?
[9271] I said they're
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9272] feet and inches, what do you want, oh, oh he said er [laugh] , he's a fellow, he's a fellow of about thirty you know
Norman (PS0RD) [9273] The one I've got is er, is like, they call it a bilingual it's, it's metric and
Raymond (PS0PN) [9274] Yeah you can, yeah, but I think me in inches I know it's a
Norman (PS0RD) [9275] Oh I do, I do and my mates is on er, of course they've been brought up with the metric system you see and he's
Raymond (PS0PN) [9276] Yeah, I'm not interested in it , it's stupid really, cos it's easy
Norman (PS0RD) [9277] say er seven sixty and I er, I er have to think now
Raymond (PS0PN) [9278] Oh , it seems as
Norman (PS0RD) [9279] come again in my landing
Raymond (PS0PN) [9280] it seems a hell of a lot long way to me
Norman (PS0RD) [9281] Yeah, and of course they say it's easier, but if you've been brought up with it, well yes it's dead easier
Raymond (PS0PN) [9282] What you show for?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9283] Your photograph
Hilary (PS0RP) [9284] He lives on the common
Raymond (PS0PN) [9285] Oh I've seen this one, this is er, this is er Ame's is here
Margaret (PS0PP) [9286] Ame's is about there
Hilary (PS0RP) [9287] yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9288] yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9289] and there
Raymond (PS0PN) [9290] post office there's a cosy cafe somewhere
Hilary (PS0RP) [9291] that's cosy cafe
Margaret (PS0PP) [9292] that's it, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9293] and doctor Colliers was here
Raymond (PS0PN) [9294] this is the post office
Hilary (PS0RP) [9295] the house, that's the hedge
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9296] all this has gone now
Hilary (PS0RP) [9297] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9298] That's where the Midland Bank is there isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9299] and on the corner here is this road, where you go park road there, they used to have a place where they killed pigs and made black puddings in the middle of main street
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9300] you can imagine and the, there was the moth , was the
Margaret (PS0PP) [9301] I was too quite in those days
Hilary (PS0RP) [9302] mother and she only had the one daughter and the daughter got married and oh she had about oh ten or eleven children and they're all running round in this back yard
Margaret (PS0PP) [9303] Oh
Hilary (PS0RP) [9304] I can remember about
Margaret (PS0PP) [9305] [laugh] like chickens
Raymond (PS0PN) [9306] Well can
Hilary (PS0RP) [9307] imagine fancying the black pudding
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9308] oh my god
Raymond (PS0PN) [9309] they had a shop here one time
Hilary (PS0RP) [9310] There
Raymond (PS0PN) [9311] Ken's uncle
Norman (PS0RD) [9312] Who's that?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9313] was it, had a shop
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9314] on the end
Margaret (PS0PP) [9315] yes, I wasn't going to say anything, who he is
Hilary (PS0RP) [9316] I wasn't sure whether it was that one, was it Griffiths their name or
Raymond (PS0PN) [9317] Oh dear
Margaret (PS0PP) [9318] What was his step dad's name?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9319] and then you, you know Colin that was the mayor
Margaret (PS0PP) [9320] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9321] well, there was, after this there was a row of houses with a little shop on the end and her mother kept that shop, Colin
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9322] his wife, Romana is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9323] Romana
Raymond (PS0PN) [9324] Romana
Hilary (PS0RP) [9325] I her mother had the shop
Raymond (PS0PN) [9326] misery
Hilary (PS0RP) [9327] oh cheerful, well his, his father was a step brother to my dad and do you know, how on earth we're related I'll never know
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9328] cos she's the biggest toryism
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9329] Oh aye Colin's the same
Margaret (PS0PP) [9330] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9331] but his dad wasn't old John wasn't
Norman (PS0RD) [9332] Wasn't he really?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9333] Oh no
Norman (PS0RD) [9334] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [9335] Isn't it funny?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9336] He was a miner in Staunch
Raymond (PS0PN) [9337] Bloody hell
Hilary (PS0RP) [9338] and he had all the boys pretty well turned out like that, cos that's another brother who used to come with the mail with the wooden hand
Raymond (PS0PN) [9339] Oh yes Jo er
Margaret (PS0PP) [9340] Oh I know
Hilary (PS0RP) [9341] that's Colin's brother
Raymond (PS0PN) [9342] postman
Margaret (PS0PP) [9343] that's right, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9344] postman isn't he?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9345] That's right, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9346] Erm
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9347] he used to have a hook didn't he?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9348] Yes the father was a very queer
Raymond (PS0PN) [9349] Victoria Avenue
Hilary (PS0RP) [9350] old, oh is, liked his drink, always drunk, you know, when I remembered him, didn't see that much of him, but erm, how Colin never turned like that I never know
Margaret (PS0PP) [9351] Mm, mm no accounting for
Raymond (PS0PN) [9352] Mind you
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9353] he's a bit of a capitalist now
Hilary (PS0RP) [9354] Oh I know
Raymond (PS0PN) [9355] sold, sold that land and er well I don't say
Hilary (PS0RP) [9356] it was, it was Romana's mum and dad, I think they owned that row of houses and the shop
Margaret (PS0PP) [9357] Oh yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9358] Oh, ah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9359] and they sold that and they bought that house between them Romana's mum and dad
Margaret (PS0PP) [9360] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9361] So
Hilary (PS0RP) [9362] and Romana's the only child
Margaret (PS0PP) [9363] Oh I see
Hilary (PS0RP) [9364] so Colin and Romana went in with them
Margaret (PS0PP) [9365] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9366] so they were left all that
Margaret (PS0PP) [9367] They inherited it
Raymond (PS0PN) [9368] With the money
Hilary (PS0RP) [9369] oh yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9370] and then again on the Council
Hilary (PS0RP) [9371] Oh they think they're it don't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9372] Mind you that shouldn't make
Hilary (PS0RP) [9373] I've never liked him
Norman (PS0RD) [9374] They were handy for the Conservative club there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9375] Well that's right, yes
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9376] just down the road isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9377] Peter, Peter's another Peter
Norman (PS0RD) [9378] What fifty yards, they'd have to walk
Raymond (PS0PN) [9379] is another one isn't he?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9380] Who's that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9381] Peter
Raymond (PS0PN) [9382] He's, he's a big name
Hilary (PS0RP) [9383] Oh yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9384] isn't he?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9385] yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9386] But he's moaning to me the other week about you know, er and I bloody near said to him, well er, things have come back on you know, but I should of
Hilary (PS0RP) [9387] Is he the one who's dad had the electrical shop?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9388] That's right, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9389] Oh
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9390] Robert's it is now isn't it?
[9391] He's taken over
Raymond (PS0PN) [9392] But er saying about the system, the pressure and that you know I don't believe a bloody thing
Hilary (PS0RP) [9393] Doesn't he drink a lot?
[9394] Is he the one who drinks or is it his brother?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9395] Oh I don't know about this
Hilary (PS0RP) [9396] There's one that's practically alcoholic
Raymond (PS0PN) [9397] Is he, oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [9398] Well I don't think it would be
Raymond (PS0PN) [9399] I don't know
Norman (PS0RD) [9400] That's what we must
Raymond (PS0PN) [9401] I think that
Norman (PS0RD) [9402] I think they put that that er
Raymond (PS0PN) [9403] why Dennis, Dennis is the one isn't he?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9404] Dennis is the one isn't it that drinks a lot?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9405] Cos he's the one that split up with his wife whom I believe
Hilary (PS0RP) [9406] Yes, he's the one , Peter's the young one isn't he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9407] That's right, yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9408] He used to come after me for music lesson every week, I can always
Margaret (PS0PP) [9409] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9410] remember as I was coming out, he was going in
Margaret (PS0PP) [9411] Well his son Charlie was a great mate of our Rob's
Raymond (PS0PN) [9412] Of our Rob's
Hilary (PS0RP) [9413] Oh yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9414] as well
Raymond (PS0PN) [9415] yeah who was a bit of a tearaway
Hilary (PS0RP) [9416] well Mrs used to teach his music, she lived on the common at one time in one of those houses by Colin
Margaret (PS0PP) [9417] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9418] er, er, her son was a teacher up at the school Ivor
Margaret (PS0PP) [9419] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [9420] Oh yes yes, yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9421] and his brother got in trouble through embezzlement didn't he?
[9422] He embezzled the bank
Margaret (PS0PP) [9423] That's right, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9424] Me dad always said he
Raymond (PS0PN) [9425] Pat used to tell us about it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9426] yes I remember, that was years ago
Hilary (PS0RP) [9427] Well his dad always said he got off
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9428] he was a pianist wasn't he was, he was, he used to play in the what's a name
Margaret (PS0PP) [9429] The masonic
Raymond (PS0PN) [9430] No the school
Hilary (PS0RP) [9431] His old , Ivor's older brother
Raymond (PS0PN) [9432] When we first went to the concerts
Hilary (PS0RP) [9433] That's right
Raymond (PS0PN) [9434] it was always him
Margaret (PS0PP) [9435] Was that him was it?
Norman (PS0RD) [9436] Rosy cheeks
Hilary (PS0RP) [9437] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9438] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [9439] Dark, well he hasn't got dark hair now
Margaret (PS0PP) [9440] obviously I can remember that now
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9441] I had dark hair then
Margaret (PS0PP) [9442] Yes, we all had dark hair then [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9443] Now look at it [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9444] Was that a traction engine there?
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9445] Norman
Hilary (PS0RP) [9446] It is
Norman (PS0RD) [9447] That'll be one of the old
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9448] no I think it's, it's one of old Jenkinson's bosses
Raymond (PS0PN) [9449] A steam roller
Margaret (PS0PP) [9450] Is it?
[9451] I was gonna say it looks like a bus
Hilary (PS0RP) [9452] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9453] Is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9454] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9455] Yes, you know Jenkinson's up at the cross
Margaret (PS0PP) [9456] I haven't got my proper glasses on
Raymond (PS0PN) [9457] Steam bus?
Norman (PS0RD) [9458] Oh yeah, I and
Hilary (PS0RP) [9459] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9460] Bloody hell
Hilary (PS0RP) [9461] you're not
Margaret (PS0PP) [9462] [laugh] Oh yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9463] You know Jenkinson's up at the cross?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9464] Mm
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9465] Well his father used to have the, the garage as you turn into Patrons Road
Raymond (PS0PN) [9466] No I think it's about nineteen hundred that one
Margaret (PS0PP) [9467] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9468] there's a little garage by the, by the chapel there
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Norman (PS0RD) [9469] is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9470] Mm, that's right yeah, on the left
Norman (PS0RD) [9471] Yes that's right, it could be because those steamers they, I
Hilary (PS0RP) [9472] well his father owned that fo , for years and it Phil had the shop, and then
Raymond (PS0PN) [9473] Don't know that they did any, Victorian
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9474] they ran the buses from Mold to Buckley
Margaret (PS0PP) [9475] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9476] and down to the station, used to come from the, from the station
Margaret (PS0PP) [9477] Mm Buckley station
Hilary (PS0RP) [9478] right up through Buckley
Margaret (PS0PP) [9479] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9480] and it was er a penny each way from across to Mold and when he sold out to Crosswell, old Jenkins stipulated that for so many years they had to keep penny each way
Margaret (PS0PP) [9481] Keep the penny safe
Hilary (PS0RP) [9482] and we had the cheapest fares for many years because of that
Margaret (PS0PP) [9483] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9484] Oh he was a funny old chap, he was erm, very religious family they were, quite a, a couple of them went to be ministers, they were a big family
Margaret (PS0PP) [9485] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9486] but erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9487] Look at these lads here
Margaret (PS0PP) [9488] So they
Hilary (PS0RP) [9489] you know with the cams
Margaret (PS0PP) [9490] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9491] Working down the ruddy mines
Raymond (PS0PN) [9492] Oh I
Hilary (PS0RP) [9493] the tea cam, yeah all the
Raymond (PS0PN) [9494] ooh
Hilary (PS0RP) [9495] brick yards
Margaret (PS0PP) [9496] all the brick, yeah, well er, it was er mostly brick yard round then wasn't it?
Norman (PS0RD) [9497] You see there on the common there, there was a colliery wasn't there?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9498] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9499] That's right, yeah
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9500] yes, in fact when we were moving up here from er, from Warwickshire, they er
Raymond (PS0PN) [9501] Many years ago oh it was cosy
Norman (PS0RD) [9502] Oh yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9503] they, they er, the building society which was the insurance company wasn't it that we had the mortgage through?
[9504] And they, they asked us about mines in the area and we said mines
Raymond (PS0PN) [9505] Oh about mines in the, yeah, oh yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9506] didn't know there'd be mining up here, you know
Hilary (PS0RP) [9507] No, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [9508] and er, anyway we checked with the er solicitor
Raymond (PS0PN) [9509] It must of been a
Margaret (PS0PP) [9510] and he said oh you know about that, all was in
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9511] I think
Norman (PS0RD) [9512] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9513] This is it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9514] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9515] Well we used to play on what we call the Bonks, down erm ... bet, you know Becketts Lane?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9516] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9517] Well from Becketts Lane you go down there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9518] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9519] go, er along a lane and then what we, what we called the Bonks were there, they were the old er workings
Margaret (PS0PP) [9520] Where they'd tipped the waste was it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9521] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9522] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9523] which had grown over with grass
Margaret (PS0PP) [9524] Ah, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9525] and there were about three of them and I know they had shafts and me mother used to say keep away from those shafts
Margaret (PS0PP) [9526] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9527] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9528] because they weren't even fenced properly
Raymond (PS0PN) [9529] Oh no
Margaret (PS0PP) [9530] Mm and there's still
Hilary (PS0RP) [9531] and I'd still be there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9532] there's still one down at the plantation, you know er
Hilary (PS0RP) [9533] Yes down Drury
Margaret (PS0PP) [9534] Yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9535] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [9536] which, well it was
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9537] haven't been there for many years
Hilary (PS0RP) [9538] down the Gooedy
Margaret (PS0PP) [9539] The what?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9540] Why the Gooedy, that path down there was always known as the Gooedy
Raymond (PS0PN) [9541] The Gooedy, that's
Hilary (PS0RP) [9542] Funny people there are
Margaret (PS0PP) [9543] And the Scotsman said that [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9544] I don't know
Raymond (PS0PN) [9545] That's er Buckley is it, Buckley talk that is, yeah, yeah, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9546] Well, but you know, they have nicknames, the Buckley people always erm, you know there was one live by us called Dirty Joe and another Mucky Robin and you know, we just cheek me, and I said to me mum one day why was that?
[9547] Well she said they used to pass each other on the way to, going to work and er, one would say it's dirty this morning Joe aye it, it mucky Robin
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9548] and that's how we got it, the names you know
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9549] and there was another one now, where
Raymond (PS0PN) [9550] That's a cracker
Hilary (PS0RP) [9551] erm Sam Sodding, and it used to, but I used to say to mother why did they call him Sam Sodding?
[9552] Oh I can't tell you that I wouldn't never discuss things like that, until I got about twenty five, you know neighbours or not, and I said why did they call him?
[9553] Well she said they got married and the baby came that night and he went about town now by god he came sodding [laugh]
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9554] Oh, aye, that's a cracker that one, I like that.
Hilary (PS0RP) [9555] how you get a name, isn't it, you know, really laugh about it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [9556] A miracle baby
Hilary (PS0RP) [9557] [laugh] Yes, that's right oh dear
Margaret (PS0PP) [9558] Oh dear well you've certainly made a nice job of it here anyway.
Hilary (PS0RP) [9559] Well it'll come Margaret
Margaret (PS0PP) [9560] You, I think you've got over the erm, the dusty bit of it now.
Hilary (PS0RP) [9561] Well this is it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9562] You're sort of getting it a bit more
Hilary (PS0RP) [9563] this is it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9564] liveable
Norman (PS0RD) [9565] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9566] The last couple of weeks has been dust everywhere
Margaret (PS0PP) [9567] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9568] but it's coming on
Margaret (PS0PP) [9569] once, well you know, once you're knocking walls out, it's, it's mucky
Hilary (PS0RP) [9570] Oh the
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Norman (PS0RD) [9571] oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [9572] all over the house, you can't keep it
Hilary (PS0RP) [9573] Well I said to him if we have any more
Margaret (PS0PP) [9574] in one spot
Hilary (PS0RP) [9575] walls, he was knocking to do them pipes, I said if we have any more holes in that wall, I said we'd be completely with
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Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Norman (PS0RD) [9576] I was, what I was afraid of, we'd end up with a house on, on, on a tilt
Margaret (PS0PP) [9577] On a tilt
Norman (PS0RD) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9578] He was knocking holes here, he was knocking holes there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9579] Oh dear
Hilary (PS0RP) [9580] and it's not his favourite job is holes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9581] Er, I'll tell you what it's had a right old hammering since you've been here, no?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9582] Oh yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9583] Oh ours was like that, you know, I used to feel quite a shame
Raymond (PS0PN) [9584] Oh, ours was worse
Margaret (PS0PP) [9585] because for eighteen months I mean there was this sledgehammer and all you could hear was boom, boom
Norman (PS0RD) [9586] I like, I like
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9587] and he was knocking walls out
Raymond (PS0PN) [9588] Do you wanna finish her off, bring a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [9589] Don't be horrible you
Hilary (PS0RP) [9590] She'd eat it, wouldn't she you know?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9591] She must
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9592] I often thought what the neighbours that and, you know, and Mrs who used to lived here then
Hilary (PS0RP) [9593] Yes, yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9594] I mean, I bet she
Raymond (PS0PN) [9595] That's what we said
Margaret (PS0PP) [9596] was chomping away trying to listen to it
Hilary (PS0RP) [9597] Well as soon as you came to put the shed up
Raymond (PS0PN) [9598] the dust
Hilary (PS0RP) [9599] that was the first time we had an inkling there was anything, and that was the Sunday before we moved and he said do you mind if I come and bring the shed up and then I can stop in there and I go and have, a, anyway, he came with Alan and she made you a cup of coffee didn't she?
Norman (PS0RD) [9600] Aye, Alan met me here
Hilary (PS0RP) [9601] That's right, made a cup of coffee and that and then, he was, just came back and she said you haven't finished, he said yes, she said I didn't hear you knocking, oh no he said, well I built it all, you know, it's all ready made and I built it ready for the bolts and, oh I thought you would of been knocking, I've got some knocking here you know
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [9602] I told you didn't I
Hilary (PS0RP) [9603] That was the first inkling we'd ever had
Raymond (PS0PN) [9604] Did she have her cloth in her hand, did she?
Norman (PS0RD) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9605] Always like this, ready to wipe something
Margaret (PS0PP) [9606] Oh dear
Hilary (PS0RP) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [9607] I was apologising for the noise wasn't I?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9608] Blokes stand still or she'll have you
Margaret (PS0PP) [9609] Oh god, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9610] with a broom, broom in her hand
Margaret (PS0PP) [9611] yes, she was
Raymond (PS0PN) [9612] you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [9613] yeah well I'm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9614] That'll be all
Margaret (PS0PP) [9615] I said you haven't polished that grot iron fence out there have you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9616] No, no, she flipped
Hilary (PS0RP) [9617] No, no she's painted it instead so
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9618] I painted wash colour, so when the was comes through you can't see it
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9619] you won't be able to tell the difference [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9620] If we'd known we would of said a few things
Margaret (PS0PP) [9621] A method in your madness isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9622] It is, yes I got a surprise
Raymond (PS0PN) [9623] I tell you what though , I must say there's less water here since, she's, she's left in the garden because it used to lay here didn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9624] Yeah, it seemed to be very wet over this side
Raymond (PS0PN) [9625] ooh terrible
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9626] all the time bailing out
Margaret (PS0PP) [9627] Well listen, get, go, go what's the name of that place?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9628] Well he knows
Hilary (PS0RP) [9629] Cuckoo's nest
Norman (PS0RD) [9630] Oh cuckoo's nest
Raymond (PS0PN) [9631] Cuckoo's nest, yeah that's the place
Hilary (PS0RP) [9632] We'll have a look around
Margaret (PS0PP) [9633] We bought some after we had laid out for most of ours
Raymond (PS0PN) [9634] Cheaper than anywhere Norm
Margaret (PS0PP) [9635] we find, we found out about that place and it was, it was a third cheaper you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [9636] We spent, it cost us double and we, then it was the same thing, same place, they were getting
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9637] selling it to us weren't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9638] Selling to us
Hilary (PS0RP) [9639] If we get this front here partly here done
Margaret (PS0PP) [9640] for another fifty pence per slab
Hilary (PS0RP) [9641] it'll be a lot easier
Margaret (PS0PP) [9642] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9643] and just do a bed in the corner I thought
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Norman (PS0RD) [9644] Well I thought if I can pave this front here
Margaret (PS0PP) [9645] Mm
Norman (PS0RD) [9646] I can go into the second hand car business then, I can go all the way down
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9647] Caravans Norm
Norman (PS0RD) [9648] with the tickets on
Raymond (PS0PN) [9649] caravans or something
Hilary (PS0RP) [9650] Caravans
Margaret (PS0PP) [9651] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9652] Yeah get a couple of
Norman (PS0RD) [9653] No they're too high they
Raymond (PS0PN) [9654] a couple of gearboxes on the lawn you know and the go that's what you want
Norman (PS0RD) [9655] That's all I always wanted to do in the lodge with a, with a little field at the side and all, I wanted to get a load of cars and dismantle them
Margaret (PS0PP) [9656] Have your own little yard
Norman (PS0RD) [9657] but er, I'd of had
Raymond (PS0PN) [9658] That was terrible that Norm, there was one, there was one in North Street
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9659] when I was doing that bit of collecting you know, and the people next, either side they'd bought these council houses, you know, it's a shame really
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [9660] and these
Margaret (PS0PP) [9661] I, I, went, erm I tried to phone Paul
Raymond (PS0PN) [9662] Got to get back to Paul
Margaret (PS0PP) [9663] I tried to phone Paul, so I've got to go and ring him
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9664] an old car there in bits and then an engine in one corner
Hilary (PS0RP) [9665] it is
Raymond (PS0PN) [9666] gearbox, bolts
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9667] he wants to clean them up, he's got a bit of
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9668] acid, I'll clean them up
Margaret (PS0PP) [9669] Yeah, and you had the old bricks
Hilary (PS0RP) [9670] We had the old bricks from our chimney
Norman (PS0RD) [9671] They came out where I'd put the old door on the, you see where I've put the door here
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9672] One thing about it is you get plenty of fresh air here don't you?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9673] Lovely, lovely
Raymond (PS0PN) [9674] I mean it's nice now
Hilary (PS0RP) [9675] Oh aye
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9676] yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9677] I don't like still weather me
Raymond (PS0PN) [9678] No
Hilary (PS0RP) [9679] I don't like it too windy, I don't like wind and rain together
Raymond (PS0PN) [9680] No, but
Hilary (PS0RP) [9681] but a nice gentle wind I love
Raymond (PS0PN) [9682] I always say if you're well you can face anything
Hilary (PS0RP) [9683] Oh of course you can
Raymond (PS0PN) [9684] if you feel rotten
Hilary (PS0RP) [9685] my mother always , I used to say to her was I born in a gale, cos she could never get me in if the wind was blowing
Raymond (PS0PN) [9686] Aye, yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9687] and I do like wind, I don't like still weather
Raymond (PS0PN) [9688] I don't like wind, windy and wet if you're out, cos you can get really cold
Hilary (PS0RP) [9689] No, two together like last week
Raymond (PS0PN) [9690] chilled, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9691] terrible, I couldn't open the door even to ask Geoff how Mary was [laugh] cos
Raymond (PS0PN) [9692] No
Hilary (PS0RP) [9693] it was blowing straight in here with the other one
Raymond (PS0PN) [9694] I used to hate that when I was collecting
Hilary (PS0RP) [9695] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9696] you know and you'd stand on the doors then, ooh, you'd be really chilled and some of them opened the door an inch
Hilary (PS0RP) [9697] I know, and once you get wet isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9698] Oh yes, you can't get warm then
Hilary (PS0RP) [9699] Oh you can't
Raymond (PS0PN) [9700] Kelly keeps you jangling, is it Jessie, no, Arthur's wife?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9701] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [9702] Oh is it Jessie?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9703] terrible isn't she?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9704] Is it Jessie?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9705] I don't know her name you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [9706] She's from Liverpool
Hilary (PS0RP) [9707] Yes she keep, goes on and do you know three times a day that poor dog walks
Raymond (PS0PN) [9708] I know
Hilary (PS0RP) [9709] every day
Raymond (PS0PN) [9710] Well she waits me sometimes go over the field and
Hilary (PS0RP) [9711] I said to ... try it
Raymond (PS0PN) [9712] town
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9713] we're only just off the main road
Raymond (PS0PN) [9714] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9715] and er it was handy for the school, like it was only five, ten minutes at the most
Raymond (PS0PN) [9716] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9717] to walk to the school
Raymond (PS0PN) [9718] That's right
Hilary (PS0RP) [9719] so it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [9720] Well think about it for a long time
Raymond (PS0PN) [9721] Then you gotta er, think about getting to the post office
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Hilary (PS0RP) [9722] It's a heck of a place isn't it Margaret?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9723] It can be done on the cheap Norm definitely
Norman (PS0RD) [9724] Ah?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9725] have to be done on the cheap
Margaret (PS0PP) [9726] Have to get some cheap timber and er
Hilary (PS0RP) [9727] It will
Norman (PS0RD) [9728] Mine will have to be a lot cheaper than that
Margaret (PS0PP) [9729] Huh, ours will have to be even
Norman (PS0RD) [9730] I shut, I shut a limit at three hundred and fifty
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9731] Or get plastic one, plastic sheeting
Norman (PS0RD) [9732] That'll have to be for the sheets
Margaret (PS0PP) [9733] Yeah, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9734] I've got everything else now
Raymond (PS0PN) [9735] Of course
Margaret (PS0PP) [9736] Have you?
[9737] Oh well you're
Raymond (PS0PN) [9738] that roofing's quite expensive isn't it?
Norman (PS0RD) [9739] That is eighty pound a sheet
Margaret (PS0PP) [9740] Yeah, yeah well Robin's cost him about four hundred pounds
Hilary (PS0RP) [9741] Our old neigh , our old neighbour has these
Norman (PS0RD) [9742] yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9743] patio doors, what were they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9744] Oh they like the louvre?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9745] No patio doors
Hilary (PS0RP) [9746] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [9747] Oh
Hilary (PS0RP) [9748] big
Norman (PS0RD) [9749] Oh aluminium doors they are
Hilary (PS0RP) [9750] Yes and he, he said to Norman do you want these, he bought them for somewhere for the house
Norman (PS0RD) [9751] No he hadn't, he, they took a house down and demolished the house
Hilary (PS0RP) [9752] That was it
Norman (PS0RD) [9753] inside of Liverpool
Raymond (PS0PN) [9754] Oh they took those out, yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9755] and his mate had one and he had the other one and he said I'll never be able to use them he said and they're in the way, can you do anything with them?
[9756] So
Hilary (PS0RP) [9757] So they'll do alright won't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9758] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9759] For a conservatory
Margaret (PS0PP) [9760] Mm
Hilary (PS0RP) [9761] you know?
Norman (PS0RD) [9762] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9763] So what are you gonna do when you run out of jobs Norman?
Norman (PS0RD) [9764] Er, then I'm gonna, them I'm
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Norman (PS0RD) [9765] gonna buy me caravanette
Margaret (PS0PP) [9766] Your caravan and do the tours
Raymond (PS0PN) [9767] Go touring then
Margaret (PS0PP) [9768] round the country
Norman (PS0RD) [9769] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9770] Yes
Norman (PS0RD) [9771] always
Hilary (PS0RP) [9772] Would you like that?
Norman (PS0RD) [9773] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9774] It's a good idea that.
[9775] There's so many places to see in this country and if the country
Hilary (PS0RP) [9776] If you've got enough money left after finish all this
Margaret (PS0PP) [9777] Well yes , yes, that's a small consideration
Hilary (PS0RP) [9778] He goes for the plastic
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Norman (PS0RD) [9779] Well I keep trying the pools every week, they might just
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9780] Oh, ah, it's our turn
Norman (PS0RD) [9781] Just click at the right time
Raymond (PS0PN) [9782] it's our turn to win now
Norman (PS0RD) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9783] Never won an argument
Norman (PS0RD) [9784] I've been waiting for forty years for it
Margaret (PS0PP) [9785] Yeah
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9786] yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9787] You ran it for so long and then
Hilary (PS0RP) [9788] He's had it two years, but
Raymond (PS0PN) [9789] Oh two years oh yeah, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9790] what's happening
Raymond (PS0PN) [9791] Oh yes, yes
Hilary (PS0RP) [9792] in er
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9793] oh yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [9794] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9795] problems and they're upping them all so he thought well I'll get out while the going's good
Margaret (PS0PP) [9796] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9797] so I put it in the paper and luckily somebody came along
Margaret (PS0PP) [9798] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [9799] Got a good price, good
Margaret (PS0PP) [9800] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9801] Anyway he, he has to keep changing for his work because they get a, a mileage allowance with the council
Raymond (PS0PN) [9802] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9803] and they've got to keep them up to scratch
Raymond (PS0PN) [9804] It doesn't pay to keep them er, for a long time
Hilary (PS0RP) [9805] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [9806] but he's still doing the raffles?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9807] Oh try anything
Raymond (PS0PN) [9808] Get another one?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9809] try anything I will
Norman (PS0RD) [9810] [laugh] Yeah, oh aye, yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9811] yeah, but he was here the other Sunday and he, he, they were, he, he was reading my paper and he come back and he the following Sunday he said you haven't got last Sunday's paper mum, I said I don't know I might, oh I think I threw it out, anyway just happened to find it, it was something he read of some woman that were meddling on the pools and the, the, what she'd used, you know and the
Margaret (PS0PP) [9812] Method
Hilary (PS0RP) [9813] way she
Margaret (PS0PP) [9814] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9815] done it, she said I was reading it here and I meant to ask you for the, she said, anyway when he come back I said have you found them out, alright, he said I've had a go he said
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9816] it's just your luck though isn't it?
Hilary (PS0RP) [9817] you get so many more lines on this or something, it's just your luck
Raymond (PS0PN) [9818] There's thousands of people do it every week
Hilary (PS0RP) [9819] I've used the same numbers for years
Margaret (PS0PP) [9820] I just put the numbers I like down and I don't know anything about football
Norman (PS0RD) [9821] We've done the same numbers every week
Hilary (PS0RP) [9822] It's either the one above or the one below
Raymond (PS0PN) [9823] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9824] Yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [9825] The er
Margaret (PS0PP) [9826] Yeah
Hilary (PS0RP) [9827] He does all the fives and I do
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9828] well if we hear, if we hear a terrible scream one weekend, we'll know it's happened
Hilary (PS0RP) [9829] You will yeah
Norman (PS0RD) [laugh]
Hilary (PS0RP) [9830] we'll be off
Margaret (PS0PP) [9831] We'll come round with the
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9832] for you
Raymond (PS0PN) [9833] Well we'll see you folks, cheerio
Margaret (PS0PP) [9834] Cheerio
Hilary (PS0RP) [9835] Bye

62 (Tape 030512)

Raymond (PS0PN) [9836] So have you got enough stuff have you Paul enough sand?
Paul (PS0R4) [9837] Just about, yeah, just, just about
Raymond (PS0PN) [9838] Oh
Paul (PS0R4) [9839] got three more holes to fill so
Raymond (PS0PN) [9840] Oh alright
Paul (PS0R4) [9841] just about got enough there, now
Raymond (PS0PN) [9842] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9843] Is that, oh you've got some more cement
Paul (PS0R4) [9844] Yeah, it should just about
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Paul (PS0R4) [9845] so what we done yesterday most of us
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Paul (PS0R4) [9846] mix it in the barrel you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [9847] Yeah
Paul (PS0R4) [9848] so it's pretty hard work
Margaret (PS0PP) [9849] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9850] Oh it is, very, very heavy
Paul (PS0R4) [9851] turning over
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9852] they've been done for many years
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Paul (PS0R4) [9853] so we've done about up to about a foot cos this concrete, now
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9854] yeah
Paul (PS0R4) [9855] it's a lot easier material
Raymond (PS0PN) [9856] say the holes are big enough anyway, so they should be, there shouldn't be any movement there I wouldn't of thought
Paul (PS0R4) [9857] Made a bit of a mistake on the holes we
Margaret (PS0PP) [9858] What size?
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Paul (PS0R4) [9859] we had further over than what we thought
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Paul (PS0R4) [9860] we've had to dig a little bit out
Raymond (PS0PN) [9861] oh no
Margaret (PS0PP) [9862] have you?
[9863] Oh
Paul (PS0R4) [9864] but it's been alright cos the sands quite
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9865] Aye, yeah, well it's not quite the same where we are
Paul (PS0R4) [9866] Right well we're going now, cheerio then
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Paul (PS0R4) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh] ...
Paul (PS0R4) [9867] I came here sweating thinking that I might have to do some work
Margaret (PS0PP) [9868] [laugh] I phoned you about three times
Raymond (PS0PN) [9869] Thank god Joe's here ...
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Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [9870] Yeah Kathy didn't mention about the chemicals
Paul (PS0R4) [9871] She said she was gonna get hold of them but she said she's gotta
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [9872] Just wondered if she could you know
Paul (PS0R4) [9873] I think she's still trying
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [9874] Yeah
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9875] Brill that
Paul (PS0R4) [9876] It's alright ain't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9877] Yeah
Paul (PS0R4) [9878] They're a bit
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9879] snaky, and I noticed, yeah
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9880] tell you I've got to see Carrie and we drop this
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9881] OK Paul
Margaret (PS0PP) [9882] Alright love
Raymond (PS0PN) [9883] see you later anyway, cheerio Paul

63 (Tape 030513)

Raymond (PS0PN) [9884] How's it going love?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9885] Alright
Raymond (PS0PN) [9886] We got out of a job then, nicely
Margaret (PS0PP) [9887] Oh I, he's done it alright has he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9888] Well it, no his friend Joe, one of the other policemen and, they done most of it, I mean we had to get the shopping didn't we?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9889] We helped them with three posts ... yeah aye, on your plate
Raymond (PS0PN) [9890] Everything OK.
[9891] Bought that New Zealander first dictionary
Margaret (PS0PP) [9892] Oh great
Raymond (PS0PN) [9893] long time ago
Margaret (PS0PP) [9894] Oh he could do with that cos Emily's always asking me
Raymond (PS0PN) [9895] I get some
Margaret (PS0PP) [9896] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9897] I thought it was another book on Mediterranean cooking there somewhere
Carrie (PS0RB) [9898] A big one what I
Margaret (PS0PP) [9899] I'm sure I've seen one on Mediterranean cooking I don't know
Raymond (PS0PN) [9900] No it's only a small one, but it's an old
Carrie (PS0RB) [9901] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [9902] that was a New Zealand
Margaret (PS0PP) [9903] unless mum's taking that, I know she's reading
Raymond (PS0PN) [9904] oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [9905] through them all a few times so
Carrie (PS0RB) [9906] Ital , was it Italian or Mediterranean?
Raymond (PS0PN) [9907] Mediterranean
Margaret (PS0PP) [9908] Mediterranean, I'm sure it's
Carrie (PS0RB) [9909] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [9910] Mediterranean
Raymond (PS0PN) [9911] Spanish, French, Italian, you know, erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [9912] What are these books?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9913] Do you want a ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [9914] yeah we're gonna put these castors in shall we?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9915] Yeah do you need a hammer for those?
Carrie (PS0RB) [9916] There's a hammer in there
Raymond (PS0PN) [9917] No, no, just, they just drop in ...
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9918] oh yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [9919] I don't know whether it's still open or not, perhaps I'll have to go there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9920] Yes that's what I mentioned
Raymond (PS0PN) [9921] Erm, ah, over the
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Carrie (PS0RB) [9922] er I have this, because I wouldn't of understand any of that [laugh] if I had that and this really explains a lot of it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [9923] Is that a new one or the same?
Carrie (PS0RB) [9924] No that's the library book I'm reading
Raymond (PS0PN) [9925] The one that, yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [9926] to explain
Raymond (PS0PN) [9927] yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [9928] what's happened, but it does say in it that at the beginning that you assume that he is a youth because he's got, come from university, but when he's in the graveyard the fellow, it, it comes out that he's thirty isn't he?
[9929] You know when he's suggest that I thirty three years ago
Raymond (PS0PN) [9930] Well I didn't think, well yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9931] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [9932] he's saying that perhaps Shakespeare
Raymond (PS0PN) [9933] yes, I
Carrie (PS0RB) [9934] felt that he had to justify this long
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9935] length of time, mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9936] oh I see, yes , yes, yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [9937] in a way he was thinking mentally, he was older than twenty
Margaret (PS0PP) [9938] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9939] Yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [9940] and yet at the beginning he said the king said we don't want you to go back to school, it sounds funny
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Carrie (PS0RB) [9941] going back to school
Margaret (PS0PP) [9942] Well, well
Raymond (PS0PN) [9943] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [9944] There's a few sort of erm ... bits about it that he's obviously changed or
Margaret (PS0PP) [9945] Adapted
Carrie (PS0RB) [9946] Yeah, or somebody's changed and cos they say to be or not to be doesn't fit in as well where it is and it should of been
Raymond (PS0PN) [9947] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [9948] somewhere else
Margaret (PS0PP) [9949] Mm
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9950] Oh god I, I, I mean I , the books just been written on that
Margaret (PS0PP) [9951] Is it?
[9952] Well I was gonna say what's that?
Carrie (PS0RB) [9953] Rosemary Conley
Margaret (PS0PP) [9954] Oh, is it any ... oh is it very strenuous sort of thing?
Carrie (PS0RB) [9955] Oh no, no, blimey, oh, not much, no jumping about otherwise there'll be an earthquake in here
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [9956] but I've lost a few pounds since last week.
[9957] I got a sponsored form as well
Margaret (PS0PP) [9958] Oh I need to take that back for Friday because
Carrie (PS0RB) [9959] Kelly and Julia , cos she got on it
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Carrie (PS0RB) [9960] she was seven, under seven stone
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Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [9961] she was eleven stone something
Margaret (PS0PP) [9962] [laugh] Didn't ring the bell did it, when you got off?
Carrie (PS0RB) [9963] No, ping, ding, ding, ding, did you see those two women that had the operations?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9964] No, I erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9965] No we saw the photographs of er one
Margaret (PS0PP) [9966] no I read about it
Carrie (PS0RB) [9967] Yeah, it was on last night
Raymond (PS0PN) [9968] One was like this
Margaret (PS0PP) [9969] Did you watch it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [9970] God ooh, the operation I was nearly heaving I was
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Margaret (PS0PP) [9971] oh how awful
Raymond (PS0PN) [9972] got
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Raymond (PS0PN) [9973] to sew them up
Margaret (PS0PP) [9974] Staple the stomach, yeah.
[9975] Do they, they must do it
Raymond (PS0PN) [9976] Good grief
Margaret (PS0PP) [9977] inside obviously
Carrie (PS0RB) [9978] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [9979] Yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [9980] they cut them open like and it's a big scar right the way down there
Margaret (PS0PP) [9981] Your stomach go down there
Raymond (PS0PN) [9982] What
Carrie (PS0RB) [9983] and then they dig it, they don't seem to care do they when they're operating on somebody?
Margaret (PS0PP) [9984] there er, oh right
Raymond (PS0PN) [9985] They're just bits of flesh , gee whiz
Carrie (PS0RB) [9986] And then they got this
Margaret (PS0PP) [9987] haven't got the
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Carrie (PS0RB) [9988] big like gun in like a staple thing it was, but it was a la , it was an extended one, fitted inside this rubber hose and then, clamp it and they only have a little bit of stomach left so they can't eat proper meals
Margaret (PS0PP) [9989] To the eleventh of June they've got
Carrie (PS0RB) [9990] after that
Margaret (PS0PP) [9991] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [9992] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [9993] and there were two women that had it done, that big one had, had it done four times
Margaret (PS0PP) [9994] That's right yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [9995] Good
Carrie (PS0RB) [9996] the third time it burst
Margaret (PS0PP) [9997] it burst because she kept, she kept on eating didn't she?
Carrie (PS0RB) [9998] Kept stopping
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Carrie (PS0RB) [9999] and then the second time she had it done
Raymond (PS0PN) [10000] And they've got to open her up every time
Carrie (PS0RB) [10001] Yep
Raymond (PS0PN) [10002] obviously
Carrie (PS0RB) [10003] the second time she had it done and then, they had to remove it because she went down to seven stone
Margaret (PS0PP) [10004] That's right yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [10005] from twenty
Margaret (PS0PP) [10006] I read that, so, did she
Carrie (PS0RB) [10007] She could of died like you know, so they had to
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10008] She became anorexic then did she?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10009] Mm, they had to take it off and she went the other way then
Margaret (PS0PP) [10010] Well it said she's a nice, in the paper last
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10011] an evening leading review, it said er she is now a ni , a trimmed erm ten stone, oh a size twelve
Carrie (PS0RB) [10012] Yeah she had it, she was just going into theatre at the end of the programme, she was having it done for the fourth time
Margaret (PS0PP) [10013] Good heav , well it said they only
Raymond (PS0PN) [10014] So
Margaret (PS0PP) [10015] do this operation if, if erm there
Carrie (PS0RB) [10016] About thirteen stone aye
Margaret (PS0PP) [10017] are health reasons for it as well as being grossly overweight
Carrie (PS0RB) [10018] twenty stone like, you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10019] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [sigh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10020] She was only thirteen stone when they took her in that last time, she was massive, she must of only been about five foot
Margaret (PS0PP) [10021] Yeah, well this is it, she's only short
Raymond (PS0PN) [10022] Ah, a big woman ah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10023] do you know aye
Margaret (PS0PP) [10024] yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10025] and the other one was erm a mother of two and she said that even when she was younger she was always overweight and she could never sort of go out with anybody nice and she just settled for anybody sort of thing, I felt sorry for her [laugh] husband, mind you saying this like, cos he looked a bit thick and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10026] anyway she went and had it done and erm she was upset after she had it done like it must of hurt you know she was crying
Margaret (PS0PP) [10027] Oh dear
Carrie (PS0RB) [10028] and all that, and she could only eat liquid food for six weeks
Margaret (PS0PP) [10029] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10030] cos your stomach, I don't know whether your stomach wouldn't tolerate the
Raymond (PS0PN) [10031] Solids
Carrie (PS0RB) [10032] yeah, and er, well anyway she down, she was like a model at the end
Margaret (PS0PP) [10033] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10034] really slim
Margaret (PS0PP) [10035] So and she was
Carrie (PS0RB) [10036] She changed completely, she was going out then, she was going keep fit now
Margaret (PS0PP) [10037] Personality change
Carrie (PS0RB) [10038] keep fit four times a week and he, he
Raymond (PS0PN) [10039] And er
Carrie (PS0RB) [10040] didn't like it the husband
Raymond (PS0PN) [10041] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10042] Well is this one who and he said she ditch, she ditched her husband and got she's got a new man or something
Carrie (PS0RB) [10043] I don't know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10044] This was, this is what it said last night, one of them that lost the weight said, she said it must of been her, yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10045] Oh maybe that's what happened in the end, that must be her, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10046] said she was with a new husband
Carrie (PS0RB) [10047] the other one was divorced wasn't she?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10048] Oh I don't, I didn't see it you see, I knew it, it was only what I read
Carrie (PS0RB) [10049] Well the other one that had it done four times said oh, I'm on my own now with the little boy, so she was
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10050] before the programme was made
Margaret (PS0PP) [10051] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10052] but the other one, they did this vi video diary that they each spoke on and he was getting more upset, the more weight she lost he was more discontent in saying that
Margaret (PS0PP) [10053] Oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10054] she's not there for me any more and she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [10055] Oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10056] only obsessed with herself and
Margaret (PS0PP) [10057] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10058] I suppose she was used to her filling an armchair every night and just sitting there all night and not doing anything
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10059] content with that
Margaret (PS0PP) [10060] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10061] No life that though is it for a younger person?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10062] Well she said I wasn't living I was just
Margaret (PS0PP) [10063] How old was she?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10064] I don't know, she didn't half change, she had her hair permed, after she lost a lot of weight
Margaret (PS0PP) [10065] Looked like a different person I suppose
Carrie (PS0RB) [10066] she had contact lenses she looked really nice actually
Margaret (PS0PP) [10067] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10068] Smartened herself up
Margaret (PS0PP) [10069] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10070] That's what you ought to do
Carrie (PS0RB) [10071] Oh god
Margaret (PS0PP) [10072] You cheeky devil ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [10073] get that stapler, got one in the garage
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10074] ah, you want to see some of the twenty five year olds going to town down here
Margaret (PS0PP) [10075] I'm only ten and a half stone
Carrie (PS0RB) [10076] with dyed blonde hair
Raymond (PS0PN) [10077] I know, yeah, tremendous aren't they?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10078] big arms
Margaret (PS0PP) [10079] I tell you what, do you ever remember Olive's, oh I don't think you ever saw her, Olive's niece she used to work at
Raymond (PS0PN) [10080] No, not unless I saw that wedding that time I don't know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [10081] She was enormous, what the devil was her name?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10082] Bigger than Olive?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10083] Her mum was Ann , that was Olive's sister Ann and what was, what was the do at the
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10084] not Olive from work?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10085] Er yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10086] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10087] remember big
Carrie (PS0RB) [10088] Olive that used to go to my school?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10089] Yes, that's right
Carrie (PS0RB) [10090] Short hair like a bit of a moron?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10091] Yeah, yeah, er, oh no I think you're thinking of a different Olive
Raymond (PS0PN) [10092] No
Carrie (PS0RB) [10093] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10094] No, Olive that used to work when I worked for Laura Ashley's
Carrie (PS0RB) [10095] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10096] erm ... she was hefty though and her sister Ann used to be enormous years ago this is, and erm she went on a, a diet, I don't know what, how, how she lost the weight but she did and I, I hadn't seen her for some years and I remember her coming to the factory this day, and she came in and she, she used to do er her flower shop, she used to do flower arrangements and the girls at work would order them you know?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10097] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10098] And she came in this day with these flowers and spoke to me and I didn't know who she was
Carrie (PS0RB) [10099] Didn't even recognise her
Raymond (PS0PN) [10100] Mm, mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10101] I felt so ashamed because I didn't recognise her and she was sort of talking away to me as though, you know, and I thought oh very friendly person, you know?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10102] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10103] And I didn't realise it was her
Carrie (PS0RB) [10104] no one didn't recognise her
Margaret (PS0PP) [10105] Well, she'd lost that much weight, now she's very conscious from then on, you know, she's sort of kept her weight down, but her daughter also had a job at our place and she was gross, I mean, Olive and Ann had both been huge women, but, but this daughter, and she was only about five feet tall and er, I don't know what her weight was but it was one of those
Raymond (PS0PN) [10106] What is it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10107] Got your tape recorder going?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10108] sort of
Raymond (PS0PN) [10109] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10110] one of those size people you'll turn your head
Carrie (PS0RB) [10111] Oh yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10112] she coul , I mean she just looked like a Michelin man, as though somebody pumped her up with a
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10113] yeah it was, oh it was terrible and I thought what a strain that must be on her heart, you know, carrying all that weight
Carrie (PS0RB) [10114] This is it medical , no wonder the doctors want you to lose weight
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10115] well
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10116] well I mean the heart's the most obvious organ, but I mean it must put a strain on everything else ...
Carrie (PS0RB) [10117] I haven't noticed I've lost any weight only that me clothes have gone a bit loose, it must be only a couple of pounds literally but on Mrs scales I'm half a stone lighter, but I don't think so by tomorrow night I'll be about eleven, ten
Margaret (PS0PP) [10118] So is it tomorrow night Brownies?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10119] The weigh in [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10120] The weigh in
Carrie (PS0RB) [10121] I was talking to somebody in bread shop and she's doing it as well
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10122] Does anyone ever ring the bell Carrie?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10123] All the Brownies' mums are gonna be wasting away
Carrie (PS0RB) [10124] All the mums
Raymond (PS0PN) [10125] Does anyone, when they stand on the scales
Carrie (PS0RB) [10126] It was funny though, when I went to get on the scales everybody went phew
Margaret (PS0PP) [10127] [laugh] All the heads crowding round to see
Carrie (PS0RB) [10128] I know, I was like that, oh dear
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10129] and those that are smaller their faces light up
Carrie (PS0RB) [10130] Yeah, I'm OK
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10131] A lady was only ten stone
Margaret (PS0PP) [10132] I bet there weren't
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10133] but she was only about four foot eleven
Margaret (PS0PP) [10134] Oh, so she was still overweight then?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10135] but she was the lightest I think, er, oh no, Brown Owl Brown Owl need to lose
Raymond (PS0PN) [10136] I suppose she was saying oh I can't get rid of it, all the other
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10137] Brown Owl needs to lose a few feathers for the summer
Carrie (PS0RB) [10138] She doesn't no, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [10139] Oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10140] she's got a lovely figure, she wears these culottes right, she's got these skinny legs
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10141] like the kids
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10142] she doesn't need to bother, but er, she's
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10143] I don't realise what I look like sometimes until I was exercising, looking in the mirror, god I wish I could remove me chest like, you know, I'd love to have a, a small chest like
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10144] you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10145] must be like Nana
Margaret (PS0PP) [10146] Mm, yeah, I think you take after your grandma
Carrie (PS0RB) [10147] Well I had me hair cut as well layered
Margaret (PS0PP) [10148] I was gonna say to you when we came in
Raymond (PS0PN) [10149] Oh it's nice it looks better
Margaret (PS0PP) [10150] have you had it trimmed?
[10151] It looks nice, yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10152] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10153] I've had mine highlighted
Carrie (PS0RB) [10154] Highlighted with grey [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10155] Ironed
Carrie (PS0RB) [10156] Yeah, lowlights
Raymond (PS0PN) [10157] I'm gonna get style
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10158] it's a good job you
Raymond (PS0PN) [10159] gonna see
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10160] haven't had those clippers I use on Scott, there'll be nothing left [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10161] just a few little whiskers
Raymond (PS0PN) [10162] That one in erm, is it Lower Bridge Street, that Brian goes to?
[10163] He said it's nice, you get a cup of coffee oh it's great
Carrie (PS0RB) [10164] Er Chester , charge you a fortune though
Margaret (PS0PP) [10165] I was gonna say he pays the earth
Raymond (PS0PN) [10166] but they don't do anything
Margaret (PS0PP) [10167] for a hair cut
Carrie (PS0RB) [10168] Just give you a cup of coffee
Raymond (PS0PN) [10169] I mean see
Carrie (PS0RB) [10170] do that and me hair
Margaret (PS0PP) [10171] Who knows
Raymond (PS0PN) [10172] so what have they done, oh they put these, I don't know what they do, they set it, or
Margaret (PS0PP) [10173] Yeah, he has
Carrie (PS0RB) [10174] They put
Margaret (PS0PP) [10175] a wash and a blow dry he has it
Carrie (PS0RB) [10176] He has a blow dry
Raymond (PS0PN) [10177] Are they bad those things?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10178] Do they have a
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10179] I mean we
Raymond (PS0PN) [10180] no he just has a curls, seemed to be curls here
Margaret (PS0PP) [10181] We saw him one week and he looked like blooming Julian Caesar
Carrie (PS0RB) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10182] the way they'd [laugh] cut it [laughing] and I couldn't help it, I just, immediately []
Raymond (PS0PN) [10183] He's so gullible, honestly Brian is
Margaret (PS0PP) [10184] said, what have you done to your hair?
[10185] You know and
Carrie (PS0RB) [10186] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10187] and I oh my god I shouldn't
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10188] of said that you know, he's paid a fortune to have this freebie
Raymond (PS0PN) [10189] That's what I say to you and you don't like it
Carrie (PS0RB) [10190] Well he, what he has it permed does he then?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10191] No, no
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10192] don't style
Carrie (PS0RB) [10193] They dry it I suppose
Margaret (PS0PP) [10194] He has got curly hair
Raymond (PS0PN) [10195] they style it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10196] it's just the way they cut it and it's sort of all these little curls
Carrie (PS0RB) [10197] Round the front
Margaret (PS0PP) [10198] at, at the front, yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10199] I expected to see the laurel leaf in the back you know
Carrie (PS0RB) [10200] He must of gone in on the granny department and
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Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10201] Oh dear
Raymond (PS0PN) [10202] In my day, you got a short back and sides, everyone got
Margaret (PS0PP) [10203] Whether you wanted it or not
Raymond (PS0PN) [10204] everyone got the same
Margaret (PS0PP) [10205] everybody had the same
Carrie (PS0RB) [10206] I don't like the cer
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10207] I mean at the moment they've got it short, but they have it long here and long at the back and then everywhere else short, short back and sides
Raymond (PS0PN) [10208] It's horrible that is
Carrie (PS0RB) [10209] It looks terrible it does, I'd have it one way or the other
Margaret (PS0PP) [10210] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10211] either long or short, but not
Raymond (PS0PN) [10212] He's a
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10213] Scott doesn't he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10214] Scott's yeah, his is
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10215] made at the moment, but I was erm Gemma came for tea last night and she wears glasses she's long sighted in one eye and er, anyway I noticed she's not wearing them as much now, so I said to her mum what's happening?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10216] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10217] So she said oh she hasn't got to wear them as much now she said her eyes have improved, you know,
Margaret (PS0PP) [10218] oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10219] she looks really weird without them on and I saw her like this
Margaret (PS0PP) [10220] Funny you get used to
Raymond (PS0PN) [10221] Naked
Carrie (PS0RB) [10222] Yes, yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [10223] yes, yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10224] Is she alright now without them or does she have to wear them part of the time?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10225] Yeah she said she has to wear them for the television
Margaret (PS0PP) [10226] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10227] and the writing and reading, but I mean before they were on all the time
Margaret (PS0PP) [10228] All the time
Carrie (PS0RB) [10229] like Scott so
Margaret (PS0PP) [10230] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10231] I said oh my god
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10232] Scott you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10233] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10234] I mean I don't want him to wear them all the time
Margaret (PS0PP) [10235] Well I mean he doesn't wear them all the time does he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10236] Yes he does
Margaret (PS0PP) [10237] Does he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10238] He has to wear them all the time, but he doesn't wear them all the time
Raymond (PS0PN) [10239] Mm, well he sh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10240] when he's leaping about he'll take them off
Carrie (PS0RB) [10241] When he's fighting and all
Raymond (PS0PN) [10242] It's corrective you see now this is the idea of it
Carrie (PS0RB) [10243] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10244] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10245] that's what I thought
Raymond (PS0PN) [10246] as the, as his eyes are developing
Carrie (PS0RB) [10247] Yeah, maybe they will be that later on
Raymond (PS0PN) [10248] Oh yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [10249] but his are a lot thicker than Gemma's though
Raymond (PS0PN) [10250] Oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10251] cos I looked through Gemma's I could
Margaret (PS0PP) [10252] [laugh] You could see the other side of the room
Carrie (PS0RB) [10253] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10254] Coca Cola's
Carrie (PS0RB) [10255] but er, he was in trouble yesterday at school for being naughty
Margaret (PS0PP) [10256] Really?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10257] he got called out in front of the school
Margaret (PS0PP) [10258] What er
Raymond (PS0PN) [10259] What on earth did he do?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10260] did you get the whole story
Carrie (PS0RB) [10261] Talking
Margaret (PS0PP) [10262] the whole story
Raymond (PS0PN) [10263] He's talking
Carrie (PS0RB) [10264] Well he whispered to me last night, you know, then of course Laura told me everything [laugh] cos she was there
Margaret (PS0PP) [10265] [laugh] Yeah she blabbed
Carrie (PS0RB) [10266] Yeah but he's
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10267] it's handy to have a squealer in the family innit?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10268] [laugh] I really can't wait for Sally to
Raymond (PS0PN) [10269] What happened then?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10270] but when I went in the other week, they all sit in a circle like that, then there's a space and the teacher stands there and she was telling a story about the independent princess who doesn't fall in love with the prince in the end, it was a quite funny story
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10271] but she just suddenly went, you and she grabbed hold of this lad, and dragged, she didn't hit him or anything, you know, but I just, oh I thought oh god, you know, I felt so sorry for this kid like, dragged him out to the back, [shouting] you were talking weren't you? []
[10272] You know, she made him sit down in the middle in front of everybody you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [10273] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10274] I mean, that was the embarrassing bit, so that's what
Raymond (PS0PN) [10275] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10276] must of happened to Scott you see?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10277] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10278] So, I have told him before because he has been told off before for talking you know at the back
Margaret (PS0PP) [10279] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10280] he said mum Shane keeps saying to me Scott, Scott, Scott
Margaret (PS0PP) [10281] Yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [10282] I said well you just have to give him the deaf ear I said otherwise you'll become, I said and he'll get caught out eventually
Raymond (PS0PN) [10283] Mm they'll see him
Margaret (PS0PP) [10284] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10285] and, they will eventually
Carrie (PS0RB) [10286] Mm, some of them don't care you see
Margaret (PS0PP) [10287] I mean it's, it's the sort of thing we have
Carrie (PS0RB) [10288] and Scott's a bit more sensitive like, you know, because he was crying last time, Laura said he was nearly crying over it
Raymond (PS0PN) [10289] Nearly
Carrie (PS0RB) [10290] I said look son, I said if you're gonna be naughty
Margaret (PS0PP) [10291] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10292] I said well it's up to the teachers, I said, you can't expect me, I mean if there was if he was picked on I would go down there but I mean if he's being naughty then it's up to the teachers to sort him out
Margaret (PS0PP) [10293] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10294] But they soon forget it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10295] I mean the thing is they've got to
Carrie (PS0RB) [10296] they've got to break them up now while they're young
Raymond (PS0PN) [10297] They don't give the cane do they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10298] Yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10299] No they don't give the cane
Margaret (PS0PP) [10300] I mean they've got to understand that when the teacher tells them to do something that
Carrie (PS0RB) [10301] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10302] that's what they're supposed to do, I mean and if they do break the rules they've, they've got to accept the consequences and it's as simple as that
Carrie (PS0RB) [10303] As that, yeah that's what I said, I said, they have to go in a yellow book if they're really naughty [laugh] which he hasn't done yet and then they have to go to Mrs so I said well you'll be going to Mrs if you don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [10304] Mrs
Carrie (PS0RB) [10305] Yeah, you'll be going to her.
Margaret (PS0PP) [10306] I bet they dawdle to go to Mrs
Carrie (PS0RB) [10307] You can imagine these lads can't you all giggling together at the back
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10308] Yeah, I mean they're only little aren't they?
[10309] But er
Carrie (PS0RB) [10310] Naughtier than the girls though, can't let the girls
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10311] I mean it's all part really, of, of learning respect for the teachers and
Carrie (PS0RB) [10312] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10313] and adults isn't it?
[10314] You know if they think they can do just as they like at that age, well I mean er the, the
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10315] some of them er when they're fifteen or sixteen
Carrie (PS0RB) [10316] This is it yeah, when they get bigger than you
Margaret (PS0PP) [10317] they're uncontrollable
Carrie (PS0RB) [10318] Yeah, exactly, you know, but er he just reminds me of Robin like, you know, and he's got this brilliant way of ducking
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10319] you know when he goes to swipe him, he can duck like that you know, before I've even thought I was gonna even hit him [laugh] he's gone like that hit the pavement
Margaret (PS0PP) [10320] He's got that sort of , he's got that sonar device, [laughing] tells you what's coming []
Carrie (PS0RB) [10321] and even when I yell at him times he's gone, you know, I don't know
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10322] I could never connect when I was trying to wallop Paul and Rob [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10323] but Emily doesn't do that or Laura
Margaret (PS0PP) [10324] We used to break all kind of speed limits getting out of the door
Raymond (PS0PN) [10325] My mum used to connect and hurt herself
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10326] [laugh] Well maybe it's a good job I don't
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10327] because I've got a thick head ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [10328] Some hand
Carrie (PS0RB) [10329] but he doesn't tend to show me up as much now thank goodness, but late one night he really went naughty, you know when they look at you like that sideways and they know that you can't wallop them because those
Margaret (PS0PP) [10330] Yes, yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [10331] in front of them, so I waited until I got home and took me slipper off and whacked his bum, I said the next time I said that's what's gonna happen, I said you can do what you like when we go out I said but just remember what you'll get when we come back [laugh]
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Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10332] Ooh, there's cruel
Carrie (PS0RB) [10333] Yeah, he was saying all the way back, please mummy don't hit me [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10334] Yes erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10335] Cruel mother
Carrie (PS0RB) [10336] I really laugh sometimes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10337] beating us up
Raymond (PS0PN) [10338] anticipation
Carrie (PS0RB) [10339] cos I nearly give him
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10340] but there's nobody else about the
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10341] it's so frustrating isn't it when you're in the middle of a crowded shop you know
Carrie (PS0RB) [10342] Ooh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10343] and they look at you as you just said as, you know, you're powerless, you can't do anything now
Carrie (PS0RB) [10344] That's it, yeah, they know you can't
Raymond (PS0PN) [10345] Well no you could wallop them there and then I suppose
Carrie (PS0RB) [10346] Ooh what and get all the
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10347] of all the grand mothers there
Margaret (PS0PP) [10348] Oh I know it's terrible , it's terrible now
Carrie (PS0RB) [10349] oh you shouldn't let them, er, and the, the thing is somebody else argues on their behalf then they think they can get away with it more
Raymond (PS0PN) [10350] Well they soon feel undermined, yes or, or the kid, the kid
Carrie (PS0RB) [10351] I just say to them now
Raymond (PS0PN) [10352] goes to the police [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10353] they were watching this thing about erm, what do you call it child thing
Margaret (PS0PP) [10354] Child watch
Carrie (PS0RB) [10355] on the telly the other night and they were showing this fellow scragging the kids in the kitchen, god and I thought oh, because they were all watching it, you know, oh they might ring them
Margaret (PS0PP) [10356] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [10357] I think it's I mean I heard, you hear these tales
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10358] but I think it's as you bring them up isn't it?
[10359] If you keep at them and
Carrie (PS0RB) [10360] Yeah, because I mean we laugh about it you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [10361] Yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [10362] I don't smack them or
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10363] I just threaten them, but er he is the one that
Raymond (PS0PN) [10364] You've got to be firm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10365] Yeah, well he is the one that needs keeping an eye on
Margaret (PS0PP) [10366] Yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10367] but Julia said to me before she came round with Hayden she said er, cos her mum and dad are still there, not her mum and dad, her mum and step dad are still there, they're only giving them forty pounds for nine weeks, forty pounds towards the mortgage like you know, been there since after Christmas and erm, anyway she said ooh she said, Steve said er, that's her husband, said to me ooh isn't Emily well mannered she said, she doesn't walk in the house, she waits in the doorstep you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10368] their Layla charges in like you know, straight in
Margaret (PS0PP) [10369] Go away you where's the biscuits?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10370] unlike Kelly and David when they come round, they just walk in, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [10371] Yes she's very quite and sensitive isn't she?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10372] it doesn't matter
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10373] you should say, takes after her mum
Carrie (PS0RB) [10374] Yeah
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10375] mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10376] it isn't
Carrie (PS0RB) [10377] some ways, yeah but what about when they're naughty they don't take after me
Raymond (PS0PN) [10378] Oh well
Carrie (PS0RB) [10379] can't say that
Margaret (PS0PP) [10380] No I mean, they're not, they're, they're quite well behaved really, but that's, that's only the way you you teach them to
Raymond (PS0PN) [10381] You do get some kids though no matter where they are, who's house they go into that you know, strangers and they, they behave in a sort of a, a wild fashion don't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10382] Yeah maybe they're too
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10383] when they're at home
Raymond (PS0PN) [10384] Whereas most kids, I don't know I think it's just the way they give them too much lead er, I mean our kids were always quiet weren't they when we went out?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10385] [laugh] Used to drag them in that's why
Raymond (PS0PN) [10386] When they were at home
Margaret (PS0PP) [10387] you don't behave when we go out
Raymond (PS0PN) [10388] or somebody said do you want so and so, no thanks
Carrie (PS0RB) [10389] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10390] dying to have it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10391] When they mean yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [10392] When they want to yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10393] I used to
Raymond (PS0PN) [10394] You have to persuade them you know, go on
Carrie (PS0RB) [10395] You're right
Raymond (PS0PN) [10396] which is good really
Carrie (PS0RB) [10397] When
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10398] said to me about Pauline's kids her three lads, not the baby like the two lads she said, oh she said er they came to play one night, or they came for tea or something and she goes to work at night you know, she said Paul was looking after them and she said, he said you could hear all this banging up and down the stairs, he said, bloody hell he said they were going mad, and I thought that's what Tom and Hannah do when they come here, I said your two bang up and down like bloody anything I said that's normal, you know for kids.
Margaret (PS0PP) [10399] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10400] She said, oh she said he doesn't want them to come again, well I said he should of just shouted I said don't bang them down stairs, you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10401] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10402] Moan, moan, moan, moan, moan, moan [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10403] Well this is it, they want to run up and down when they're little, I mean, they gotta expand that energy
Carrie (PS0RB) [10404] when they get
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10405] especially if they get in a bigger house [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10406] [laugh] Yes, more space, more rooms to run in [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10407] Let's see what we can do with this one
Margaret (PS0PP) [10408] Yeah, mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10409] My Hayley's a bit like that, jumping all over me this morning can't
Margaret (PS0PP) [10410] So I take it Laura's got her sinus problem sorted out did she?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10411] Yeah

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Carrie (PS0RB) [10412] Not through your mouth, through your nose, anyway it must of righted itself, she's still full of cold but you know, when you get that achy feeling cos she said it aches
Margaret (PS0PP) [10413] It grabs you
Raymond (PS0PN) [10414] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10415] Oh and she got, swallowed a tooth yesterday at school
Margaret (PS0PP) [10416] That one's that been
Carrie (PS0RB) [10417] No, hang on
Raymond (PS0PN) [10418] Oh no
Carrie (PS0RB) [10419] not that one, that's still there
Margaret (PS0PP) [10420] The one at the bottom, that's unbelievable that
Carrie (PS0RB) [10421] I didn't think it was very wobbly, but she said she swallowed it and there's a load of blood at the ramp at school so, so I said that must of been nice for the teachers, mind, but the other one I found
Margaret (PS0PP) [10422] Is this a bottom tooth now she's ... ?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10423] The bottom one yeah, at the side
Margaret (PS0PP) [10424] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10425] I baffled her last night the front one again, I was swinging Emily around and banged her in the mouth, if it hadn't of been there it wouldn't of cut her gum and went into her lip and her gum
Margaret (PS0PP) [10426] Oh good lord
Carrie (PS0RB) [10427] Oh it was in a right mess, but it still didn't come out
Raymond (PS0PN) [10428] It's hanging on by a thread
Carrie (PS0RB) [10429] all of that, I can't psyche myself up to yank it out, so
Margaret (PS0PP) [10430] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10431] it'll probably twang back in again
Margaret (PS0PP) [10432] You could al you could always take her to the dent , is the other tooth in front of it or behind it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10433] Behind it, yeah the other
Margaret (PS0PP) [10434] Behind
Carrie (PS0RB) [10435] dentist said no, they don't want, they don't like taking them out
Margaret (PS0PP) [10436] They don't like to do it what even in under those, I mean the other tooth's nearly the same size, this is what happened with that tooth of mine there, I was
Carrie (PS0RB) [10437] It was growing behind
Margaret (PS0PP) [10438] it, the other one wouldn't come out and eventually the to , this tooth that's here now
Carrie (PS0RB) [10439] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10440] was the same length as the one in front so
Carrie (PS0RB) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10441] its, honestly it was and eventually of course it did come out and there's always been a gap because the one behind
Carrie (PS0RB) [10442] Behind, you know everybody you
Margaret (PS0PP) [10443] couldn't straighten out
Carrie (PS0RB) [10444] talk to the dentist's say kids have got to wear braces, so just about everybody has been told
Raymond (PS0PN) [10445] Oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10446] gotta wear braces so
Margaret (PS0PP) [10447] I always thought it was only Canada that do it with
Carrie (PS0RB) [10448] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10449] The Americans do that a lot
Carrie (PS0RB) [10450] they're very light weight ones now aren't they?
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10451] Oh yes , yes, marvellous
Carrie (PS0RB) [10452] so it's glasses, braces and grom grommets in their ears now
Margaret (PS0PP) [10453] Grommets?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10454] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10455] Who had
Carrie (PS0RB) [10456] grommets is it or grommet?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10457] Yes it is a grommet well
Carrie (PS0RB) [10458] Nearly every nearly everybody you speak to, if they've got erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10459] What on earth for?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10460] I think it's because the passages are so small they get bunged up, I know Anna across the road's got it done once but er Michelle said they've come out, but er, they're supposed to drain them so she said
Raymond (PS0PN) [10461] What?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10462] Every morning they're supposed to have a load of gunk on the pillow where it's drained out
Margaret (PS0PP) [10463] Oh god
Carrie (PS0RB) [10464] but she said er, they didn't do too well with Anna because it didn't drain
Margaret (PS0PP) [10465] and this is an operation to actually to have this inserted?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10466] Yeah, yeah, they just put them in their eardrum part
Margaret (PS0PP) [10467] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10468] and it's supposed to just leak out through
Margaret (PS0PP) [10469] to drain it
Carrie (PS0RB) [10470] instead of, cos she was nearly deaf you see, and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [10471] God
Carrie (PS0RB) [10472] there's a few people have now said that their
Margaret (PS0PP) [10473] Oh I've never heard of that it must be
Carrie (PS0RB) [10474] a lot of them if it isn't sorted out have them the no , what do you call them the adenoids
Margaret (PS0PP) [10475] Sinuses
Carrie (PS0RB) [10476] and the
Margaret (PS0PP) [10477] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10478] and the tonsils and their
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10479] done as well at the same time
Margaret (PS0PP) [10480] Yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10481] and that tends to clear
Margaret (PS0PP) [10482] Well the adenoids must be, I mean must, I always think of Melvyn Bragg you know
Carrie (PS0RB) [10483] Mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10484] he sounds very adenoidal
Carrie (PS0RB) [10485] say he's got a flat nose hasn't he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10486] but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [10487] Problem is
Carrie (PS0RB) [10488] I think Jeanette said Tom had that problem cos he didn't speak until he was about two and a half and they thought he was you know a bit daft
Margaret (PS0PP) [10489] Retarded
Carrie (PS0RB) [10490] and it must of been because of that
Margaret (PS0PP) [10491] Because he couldn't hear properly
Carrie (PS0RB) [10492] because er, they've got both got very small noses and Hannah's always talking like that you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10493] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10494] through her nose, but, so there must of been, she's alright but her nose is blocked up all the time
Margaret (PS0PP) [10495] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10496] Made up for it since though
Margaret (PS0PP) [10497] So, well they're all at school today anyway
Carrie (PS0RB) [10498] Yeah Emily was trying it on again this morning, I think it's just that she gets tired cos she feels slothlike in the morning and then by the end of the day she's over like a rocket
Margaret (PS0PP) [10499] She's wound up
Carrie (PS0RB) [10500] Yeah, so I said well you know because I was thinking oh god if I go to college and she's off bloody sick all the time, but I think it's just that she's tired and you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10501] Mm what time do you, do they go to bed?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10502] Go to bed at half seven, she doesn't go to sleep until about quarter past ten some nights reading
Margaret (PS0PP) [10503] I know they read yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10504] gonna get that
Raymond (PS0PN) [10505] Oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10506] It usually means Scott has fallen asleep
Margaret (PS0PP) [10507] I mean if, if they are in bed, I mean if they are there they are resting to some extent, even if they're sort of awake but
Carrie (PS0RB) [10508] She's just not, oh I don't know, thinks she's gonna miss something I suppose
Margaret (PS0PP) [10509] Yeah, she's a late bird, but er
Carrie (PS0RB) [10510] Don't like getting up, but she'll be alright
Margaret (PS0PP) [10511] does she, you, you said she was having vitamins for a while didn't you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10512] Not having now, god she, I mean she doesn't eat a lot, but she eats so many different things, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [10513] Mm having a good variety
Carrie (PS0RB) [10514] she's on the organic crisps at school and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [10515] well
Carrie (PS0RB) [10516] fruit and she eats a lot of salad cos she loves salad you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10517] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10518] if I had a salad I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [10519] it's unusual that for children really cos they don't usually go for salad
Carrie (PS0RB) [10520] Yeah, well even Laura like she eats salad at school like you know, but erm, she's got erm, what did we have the other night cos we'd been eating semi [laugh] semi Mediterranean food this week [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10521] cos I made these stuffed tomatoes with rice in
Raymond (PS0PN) [10522] Oh those are nice I like those
Carrie (PS0RB) [10523] last night and we had cheese and onion pasties with them [laugh] so
Margaret (PS0PP) [10524] Bang goes the diet
Raymond (PS0PN) [10525] Oh no
Carrie (PS0RB) [10526] Well Laura and Gemma wanted to make these pasties and she'd asked me at the weekend and I didn't have the time because I think Irene came down cos I asked Irene whether she'd looked after, you know I'm at college until three, and she said yeah I'll pick them up and er I couldn't get her out at then so I promised she could make them so, I said alright you and Gemma make them, anyway they did very well they made them in about fifteen minutes because we had to go and get Emily at four from school, I said hurry up, hurry up put the water in Emily quick stick them together [laugh] shove them now and put them in the oven
Margaret (PS0PP) [10527] What were they cheese and onion?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10528] Cheese and onion little pasties they made and Laura didn't want to eat any for tea they did their nut with her
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10529] God
Carrie (PS0RB) [10530] so she just had the rice and an egg with it and Gemma had about three pasties and I had stuffed tomatoes with rice and erm, what did I do with, I done rata , ratatouille and
Raymond (PS0PN) [10531] That's nice yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10532] ratatouille which is easy to make, I didn't know I was making ratatouille
Raymond (PS0PN) [10533] That's a nice one
Carrie (PS0RB) [10534] anyway before I read the
Margaret (PS0PP) [10535] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10536] recipe of it
Raymond (PS0PN) [10537] That's a nice one that erm, pomme de terre [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10538] Yes, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10539] but of course it's got eggs in it and it, it's no good is it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10540] Erm that's not the shaped spiral shaped?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10541] Layers of
Carrie (PS0RB) [10542] Oh layers of potatoes
Raymond (PS0PN) [10543] layers of potatoes and erm cheese
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10544] and then you pour the egg mixture over it and cook it
Carrie (PS0RB) [10545] Oh what's the egg mixture then?
[10546] Not custard?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10547] Ah er no, er just eg , egg
Margaret (PS0PP) [10548] Ah egg
Raymond (PS0PN) [10549] a couple of eggs
Margaret (PS0PP) [10550] A beaten egg isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10551] with milk I think that's what it is
Carrie (PS0RB) [10552] Oh like a flan mix then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10553] but erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [10554] mm or a quiche
Raymond (PS0PN) [10555] Yeah I suppose that's right yeah in, in a casserole dish
Carrie (PS0RB) [10556] Like a flan with potatoes and cheese in , mind you you're supposed to cut down on the cheese
Raymond (PS0PN) [10557] Well this is it, it's dairy
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10558] I suppose isn't it?
[10559] But the spuds taste lovely ooh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10560] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10561] but you've got to par cook them because they don't
Carrie (PS0RB) [10562] Yes quite a lot when they're
Raymond (PS0PN) [10563] cook quickly enough
Carrie (PS0RB) [10564] yeah what did I do with
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10565] we had er
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10566] salty potatoes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10567] This is like true confessions this
Carrie (PS0RB) [10568] forget that
Raymond (PS0PN) [10569] Ah you'll have to do what Ken does
Margaret (PS0PP) [10570] All the things that you shouldn't have
Raymond (PS0PN) [10571] Made me laugh last night, he said erm ... I, I, I always do a load of spuds he said even if it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [10572] Yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10573] Ah he knows
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10574] only him and then he said you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10575] He said I do a lot
Raymond (PS0PN) [10576] and then, and then I fry them then
Margaret (PS0PP) [10577] and then keep them and perhaps have a bit of a fry up
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Raymond (PS0PN) [10578] oh god
Margaret (PS0PP) [10579] Ah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10580] eats, I'm sure he eats all the wrong stuff you know?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10581] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10582] Well, well I mean we called in the other day
Carrie (PS0RB) [10583] he doesn't seem to put on any weight mind
Raymond (PS0PN) [10584] He won't eat any no, no, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [10585] in the afternoon and er
Carrie (PS0RB) [10586] he don't eat a lot
Margaret (PS0PP) [10587] he had a biscuit with a cup of tea and he said that's the first thing I've had to eat
Raymond (PS0PN) [10588] He doesn't eat much
Margaret (PS0PP) [10589] today and I said well why?
[10590] You know, he said oh I, I usually only have one meal a day
Raymond (PS0PN) [10591] You see he won't eat veggies
Carrie (PS0RB) [10592] Perhaps he's used to having one meal he wasn't there in the day time
Margaret (PS0PP) [10593] Well that's right
Raymond (PS0PN) [10594] Won't eat any veggies you know, none
Carrie (PS0RB) [10595] Well how
Margaret (PS0PP) [10596] I don't
Carrie (PS0RB) [10597] can he go to the toilet
Margaret (PS0PP) [10598] think he used to bother
Carrie (PS0RB) [10599] flipping heck, unless he eats fruit
Margaret (PS0PP) [10600] Oh er, I don't think he does, he likes
Raymond (PS0PN) [10601] He doesn't
Margaret (PS0PP) [10602] and, he erm raw vegetables
Raymond (PS0PN) [10603] An apple now and again but it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10604] he'll eat raw carrot and things like that but otherwise the only vegetables he'll eat are potatoes he eats
Raymond (PS0PN) [10605] peas about, yeah but he doesn't, he doesn't eat them much does he?
[10606] If had a plate of raw carrots
Carrie (PS0RB) [10607] Now I would always peel a carrot
Margaret (PS0PP) [10608] It's a bit boring isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10609] Well I was gonna say he doesn't
Margaret (PS0PP) [10610] Not very often
Raymond (PS0PN) [10611] if he ever ever comes to our house and you're doing stuff then he'll pick one won't he'll make a celery
Margaret (PS0PP) [10612] Yes if we catch him he eats a couple of carrots in his hand
Carrie (PS0RB) [10613] Does he eat salad then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10614] He doesn't , well he'll have salad minus oh he does oh I think he will have a salad but he doesn't like tomatoes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10615] I think, I think they're quite big meat eaters really and erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10616] They were
Raymond (PS0PN) [10617] They like a lot of meat
Carrie (PS0RB) [10618] saying at this mediterranean diet that the more fruit and veg you eat the less chance you've got of heart disease and cancer
Raymond (PS0PN) [10619] Oh yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10620] Oh yes that's right, yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10621] er you know if you think you're not gonna get cancer you would eat more vegetables really
Raymond (PS0PN) [10622] I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [10623] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10624] they, they've always been known for marvellous skin haven't they, the erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10625] Oh they all look skinny
Margaret (PS0PP) [10626] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10627] continent because of olive oil, plenty of erm vegetables
Carrie (PS0RB) [10628] I've got some olive oil but I've noticed if you look on the olive oil that some of the, some of it isn't mono unsaturates is it, you know, on a lot of it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10629] Olive is olive oil
Carrie (PS0RB) [10630] olive oil
Raymond (PS0PN) [10631] Gotta be pure olive oil
Margaret (PS0PP) [10632] pure olive oil
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10633] yeah, but it's got saturates in
Margaret (PS0PP) [10634] Has it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10635] How can it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10636] I must have a look on my bottle I've
Carrie (PS0RB) [10637] on this one I've got, yeah because this was one of them
Margaret (PS0PP) [10638] I didn't study the label
Raymond (PS0PN) [10639] No I didn't, I thought it was all good
Margaret (PS0PP) [10640] I just I just saw it was pure virgin olive oil and I thought oh that'll do
Carrie (PS0RB) [10641] Yeah but even if it says virgin it can still
Margaret (PS0PP) [10642] That's what the can says
Raymond (PS0PN) [10643] Oh thought it came straight out of an olive it can't do any harm can it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10644] Mm, but unless it's added additives
Carrie (PS0RB) [10645] Saturates fifteen grammes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10646] Oh you haven't got your glasses on
Carrie (PS0RB) [10647] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [10648] That's not much is it?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10649] Yeah, but I'm saying, don't tip it up cos the tops broken
Raymond (PS0PN) [10650] Yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10651] there, I didn't think there was any saturates in it, olive oil
Margaret (PS0PP) [10652] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [10653] Got a small
Carrie (PS0RB) [10654] and that is one of the, the lowest that one and it was one of the cheapest ones as well
Margaret (PS0PP) [10655] Mm, that's probably why though
Raymond (PS0PN) [10656] I, this is it you've got to get the er
Margaret (PS0PP) [10657] if you get the virginal I don't think
Raymond (PS0PN) [10658] Have you?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10659] No I looked on the virginal and it had more saturates in than this
Margaret (PS0PP) [10660] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [10661] No wonder then
Carrie (PS0RB) [10662] So if you look, and they, and they say the more mono unsaturates it's got is better for you isn't it, rather than polyunsaturates cos it's broken down either further isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10663] That's right, yes, yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10664] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10665] And there's seventy thousand
Raymond (PS0PN) [10666] Well the article I read in it, it said erm, you know you can drink gallons of it, I mean I don't know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10667] You've got to be a blooming chemist now to de ,de , decipher all these labels.
Carrie (PS0RB) [10668] Well I suppose like
Margaret (PS0PP) [10669] Yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10670] if you were born in the Mediterranean you would of been eating that stuff anyway and you'd never have, think about it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10671] Yeah, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10672] You see the South of
Carrie (PS0RB) [10673] We eat all
Raymond (PS0PN) [10674] the South of France they said in the paper they eat a lot of butter or cook a lot
Carrie (PS0RB) [10675] Oh do they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10676] Do they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10677] the North it's all, nearly oil they use
Margaret (PS0PP) [10678] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10679] that's the most civilized country as well
Margaret (PS0PP) [10680] I don't cook in, in I cook with oil, if I use oil
Raymond (PS0PN) [10681] They cook everything in butter don't they?
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10682] but I very rarely fry any thing anyway
Carrie (PS0RB) [10683] Oh when I was at college
Raymond (PS0PN) [10684] Yeah and makes
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10685] you know in a, in erm restaurant, in a hotel or whatever, but I, mind you, you don't go to a hotel that often
Margaret (PS0PP) [10686] When I go shopping I
Raymond (PS0PN) [10687] I mean I, I
Margaret (PS0PP) [10688] I want it simplified, I want it in big letters this is good for you, this is not so good, or this is bad
Raymond (PS0PN) [10689] No just good, bad
Margaret (PS0PP) [10690] or this is very bad
Carrie (PS0RB) [10691] That's what they say on Food and Drink in
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10692] you know and then it's up to you but
Raymond (PS0PN) [10693] Yeah but there's a lot of ambiguity about it isn't it, they you know they say this is
Margaret (PS0PP) [10694] Oh very ambiguity
Raymond (PS0PN) [10695] the wholemeal or whatever
Carrie (PS0RB) [10696] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10697] and as you say you've only gotta read the small print you find that spent percentage of this and that.
Carrie (PS0RB) [10698] Mm, you see, I always get that erm
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10699] that you can see how many
Raymond (PS0PN) [10700] Yes
Carrie (PS0RB) [10701] but then you've Tesco's own brand
Raymond (PS0PN) [10702] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10703] which is brown and white bread
Margaret (PS0PP) [10704] A mixture of it
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Carrie (PS0RB) [10705] with only, with only
Raymond (PS0PN) [10706] this is the trouble
Carrie (PS0RB) [10707] with only a few little bits in it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10708] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10709] There's nothing in it, yeah, we, we had a loaf once, sliced, brown bread and there was a line across it there, it was white
Margaret (PS0PP) [10710] A streak of white yeah where the dough, streak of white dough hadn't been mixed in properly
Raymond (PS0PN) [10711] We said god look at this , you know it looked as though it had been painted
Margaret (PS0PP) [10712] Mm, a marble, a marble loaf , there you are
Raymond (PS0PN) [10713] so it makes you wonder you know as you say
Carrie (PS0RB) [10714] Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10715] is good isn't it?
[10716] Because
Margaret (PS0PP) [10717] Their granary bread is beautiful
Raymond (PS0PN) [10718] oh
Carrie (PS0RB) [10719] Is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10720] It's a lovely taste I mean I don't
Raymond (PS0PN) [10721] Straight
Margaret (PS0PP) [10722] no it doesn't look particularly dark
Carrie (PS0RB) [10723] Where it comes from
Margaret (PS0PP) [10724] but it does, oh it's great
Raymond (PS0PN) [10725] It's got all those little bits in you know?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10726] Yeah, well Scott I mean he just eats loads of bread
Margaret (PS0PP) [10727] Malted loaf
Carrie (PS0RB) [10728] so I mean I don't mind you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [10729] That's good he's, he's off the white bread now isn't he?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10730] No we don't eat any white bread now
Raymond (PS0PN) [10731] It's abso , I can't eat it now
Margaret (PS0PP) [10732] They, well there's no taste to it, I mean it's what you put on white bread
Carrie (PS0RB) [10733] I think brown fills you up more
Raymond (PS0PN) [10734] Of course it does
Carrie (PS0RB) [10735] so there aren't as many slices though
Margaret (PS0PP) [10736] It's just as nutritious though, isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10737] Yeah there's something in that you see, the white
Margaret (PS0PP) [10738] I mean they have to by law, when it's, I mean
Carrie (PS0RB) [10739] When there's no fibre in it that's the different
Raymond (PS0PN) [10740] That's right,
Margaret (PS0PP) [10741] Yeah that's right, I mean it's so refined
Raymond (PS0PN) [10742] the [...] the ger the
Margaret (PS0PP) [10743] they took all the goodness out of it and then by law they have to put it back again don't they, to er
Carrie (PS0RB) [10744] Yes, yeah, yeah it's like er breakfast cereals are good for you in a way that they've got all the vitamins in for kids ain't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10745] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10746] We get these Weetaflakes, you know, which are like
Raymond (PS0PN) [10747] Yes those are good
Carrie (PS0RB) [10748] but every now and then we get something with a special offer on which we're getting the Kelloggs cornflake bowls at the moment.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10749] Cocoapops
Carrie (PS0RB) [10750] No we don't buy them
Margaret (PS0PP) [10751] Haven't had Cocoapops for ages
Raymond (PS0PN) [10752] Oh what's the other thing snap, crackle and pop
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Margaret (PS0PP) [10753] Oh there's so many of them, so many things I don't know
Raymond (PS0PN) [10754] Oh yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10755] What
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10756] well I'm gonna try and do my brakes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10757] Yes his car brakes, listen erm, this erm, this sponsor thing does it say
Carrie (PS0RB) [10758] You can either do it per pound or you can do a total amount in the end
Raymond (PS0PN) [10759] Eh?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10760] Oh I see, I was gonna say because Joyce said oh I'll, I'll
Raymond (PS0PN) [10761] Nothing for a penny?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10762] Cos if I lose twenty eight pound then you, then you sponsor me for
Raymond (PS0PN) [10763] Penny a pound?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10764] A pound
Carrie (PS0RB) [10765] No
Margaret (PS0PP) [10766] divided by twenty eight pence, I mean, divided by twenty eight
Carrie (PS0RB) [10767] That'll be two pounds, two pounds eighty if it was ten pence a pound
Margaret (PS0PP) [10768] Mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10769] so you know if you just say a pound for the whole lot
Margaret (PS0PP) [10770] Yeah, it's till June this yeah?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10771] Yes, it's till June
Margaret (PS0PP) [10772] You haven't written any letters off yet, no?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10773] I have yeah so
Margaret (PS0PP) [10774] Any
Carrie (PS0RB) [10775] and I've got three phone numbers to ring but I thought I'd wait till the end of the week until I'm [laughing] about eleven and a half []
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10776] Julia said oh you don't look eleven and a half, but er I'd still like to look about, I don't know about ten, I suppose [laugh] oh you do have to do
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10777] go on then get up there and unlock the door
Raymond (PS0PN) [10778] I don't know
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10779] So how often are you going to be going to the dance now that the weather's better you mean
Carrie (PS0RB) [10780] I took him out last Saturday
Raymond (PS0PN) [10781] Water comes up like this [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10782] Displacement, eureka, I have it
Carrie (PS0RB) [10783] People say she's a good swimmer but she's big [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10784] Unsinkable, like the Titanic
Margaret (PS0PP) [10785] Ah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10786] Oh it was terrible when Jackie went in, god her, her leg it was like two of my legs
Raymond (PS0PN) [10787] Ah, mm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10788] when I persuaded her to go in, I said you're alright Jackie just run in
Raymond (PS0PN) [10789] She fell in, it'll be
Margaret (PS0PP) [10790] quickly
Raymond (PS0PN) [10791] a big wave
Carrie (PS0RB) [10792] God, yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10793] Everybody hurried then out of the way I suppose
Raymond (PS0PN) [10794] in the shallow end
Carrie (PS0RB) [10795] and Andrew he didn't want her to hold him in the water, he wanted to walk
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10796] thought he could of in the water he didn't realise it would go over his head
Margaret (PS0PP) [10797] There's a
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10798] can do as well
Carrie (PS0RB) [10799] Aye all me things for
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10800] oh is that what it is? [laugh]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10801] I know, I'm gonna staple it back up
Raymond (PS0PN) [10802] Oh my grief
Carrie (PS0RB) [10803] Did you get all that bumph off er Barry ?
[10804] Looking for er people who cand , not candidates looking for people to, you know, vote for him?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10805] No
Carrie (PS0RB) [10806] We got a letter about animals and their policies you know and
Margaret (PS0PP) [10807] funny thing there was a letter in the paper though er in the Legal last night and it was some woman who'd written to say that erm, this little girl had collected two, over two hundred signatures for erm the er anti hunting
Carrie (PS0RB) [10808] Oh yes yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10809] lobby you know, erm and presented or sent them
Carrie (PS0RB) [10810] that's a lot isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10811] to Barry along with other, numerous other people
Carrie (PS0RB) [10812] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10813] and obviously you and I and a few others, but erm
Carrie (PS0RB) [10814] they will know who we are
Margaret (PS0PP) [10815] he said it's a pity that erm Barry didn't see fit to vote for it, so
Carrie (PS0RB) [10816] You mean he didn't?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10817] Well no, if, if that letter's to be believed he must know
Raymond (PS0PN) [10818] Abstained or something did he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10819] must of well he must of done
Carrie (PS0RB) [10820] Oh that's bad
Margaret (PS0PP) [10821] see, there are a lot of farms up where Barry lives
Raymond (PS0PN) [10822] Got to be realistic, is that what you always say?
Carrie (PS0RB) [10823] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10824] Well I don't mean that I'm not gonna vote for them but I am disappointed
Carrie (PS0RB) [10825] He's been waiting up and down town asking us to vote for him, flipping heck
Raymond (PS0PN) [10826] Next time I get hold of him
Carrie (PS0RB) [10827] No, you gonna ask him that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10828] What are you gonna do?
[10829] No you
Carrie (PS0RB) [10830] next time he waves to me and I'm going up town I'll be [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10831] no, you, must vote really, must vote, vote for the Labour Party
Carrie (PS0RB) [10832] here we are Barry
Raymond (PS0PN) [10833] He's always
Carrie (PS0RB) [10834] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10835] You try and er
Carrie (PS0RB) [10836] I remember him waving to me one day, I thought who the bloody hell's that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10837] work on them, when they're in power
Carrie (PS0RB) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10838] Oh he does the
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10839] he's alright
Carrie (PS0RB) [10840] He just goes
Margaret (PS0PP) [10841] You I mean you, you criticize him but I mean I know a few people who, who he
Raymond (PS0PN) [10842] He's got no clout has he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10843] has helped
Raymond (PS0PN) [10844] Oh yes he's got a lot of local level
Margaret (PS0PP) [10845] I mean they can't , they can't possibly do everything for everybody at the right time I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [10846] local level they do er
Carrie (PS0RB) [10847] No, no
Raymond (PS0PN) [10848] they do their best
Carrie (PS0RB) [10849] they're still on that issue I would of thought
Margaret (PS0PP) [10850] He's not Jesus Christ is he after all's said and done, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [10851] He looks like it
Margaret (PS0PP) [10852] you can't work miracles [laugh] get out of it, get on with that car
Carrie (PS0RB) [10853] That looks like
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Carrie (PS0RB) [10854] [laugh] ta ra
Margaret (PS0PP) [10855] Bye then
Carrie (PS0RB) [10856] See you
Raymond (PS0PN) [10857] No wonder you study the dictionary the other day
Margaret (PS0PP) [10858] Study the dictionary, yeah
Carrie (PS0RB) [10859] Start off with a
Margaret (PS0PP) [10860] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10861] [laugh] get all
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]

65 (Tape 030515)

Raymond (PS0PN) [10862] Did Kelly said anything about this job?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10863] No she doesn't know anything yet
Raymond (PS0PN) [10864] Oh she's, oh so it's just in the er pipeline at the moment is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10865] Yeah she's just gonna, she's just got to pass
Raymond (PS0PN) [10866] I see, I, I
Margaret (PS0PP) [10867] you know I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [10868] I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [10869] I, I mean I dare say
Raymond (PS0PN) [10870] is that what she does the weekend
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10871] no she only works at nights and she was asking about nights for Carrie you see, cos I
Raymond (PS0PN) [10872] No way
Margaret (PS0PP) [10873] can baby sit
Raymond (PS0PN) [10874] Ah?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10875] for a couple of nights, when she was on, she asked me if I thought Ken would baby sit a couple of nights, if he could you know perhaps ask different people to baby sit you see, so I said well I didn't like the idea of that anyway
Raymond (PS0PN) [10876] He wouldn't mind
Margaret (PS0PP) [10877] so I said well, I said I thought of baby sitting you know if you want.
[10878] I mean she doesn't she didn't know how many nights it would be
Raymond (PS0PN) [10879] It couldn't be nights though could it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10880] Well no evenings you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [10881] Not if it's ten till oh evenings
Margaret (PS0PP) [10882] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [10883] oh I thought you said nights
Margaret (PS0PP) [10884] like six till ten something like that you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [10885] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [10886] that sort of evening shift erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [10887] so it's four hours
Margaret (PS0PP) [10888] and anyway she said that whoever the girl is, she works at the school in the day and she works at the erm
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10889] in the evening you see, anyway she said the evening shifts are all full
Raymond (PS0PN) [10890] Sshh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10891] but they have got Saturdays and Sundays, or she thinks there's Saturday and Sunday, she's gonna ask about it
Raymond (PS0PN) [10892] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [10893] so it's time and a half as well or something she said on Saturdays
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...] ...
Margaret (PS0PP) [10894] oh I don't know ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [10895] I don't know
Margaret (PS0PP) [10896] I mean I should imagine there are so many people now looking for jobs
Raymond (PS0PN) [10897] That's right
Margaret (PS0PP) [10898] and if they can get somebody who hasn't got any ties then they do that
Raymond (PS0PN) [10899] especially part time work
Margaret (PS0PP) [10900] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10901] they, they're sort of at a premium aren't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10902] Well they're trying, I mean they don't, they don't owe anybody anything, they don't have to pay them holiday pay
Raymond (PS0PN) [10903] No, nothing
Margaret (PS0PP) [10904] or
Raymond (PS0PN) [10905] give you the sack just like that
Margaret (PS0PP) [10906] Isn't that pretty over there all daffs?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10907] Yes that is, yes, could do with a few more mind you, but still, that looks nice there
Margaret (PS0PP) [10908] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [10909] look on the left
Margaret (PS0PP) [10910] Yes they are there's a couple of
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10911] in there it's lovely
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10912] wow, thousands ...

66 (Tape 030601)

Margaret (PS0PP) [10913] Good evening!
[10914] ... What's this
Raymond (PS0PN) [10915] Evening!
Margaret (PS0PP) [10916] evening then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10917] How are you Bri?
Brian (PS0S0) [10918] Well it's ... we nearly met on the lounge
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [10919] as well.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10920] Did we?
Brian (PS0S0) [10921] [laughing] No [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10922] Where's Bill?
Brian (PS0S0) [10923] Sussex.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10924] We're short!
Brian (PS0S0) [10925] Oh you were
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10926] They're going do , they're coming down here.
Brian (PS0S0) [10927] But of course, but he goes
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10928] But he [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [10929] There wasn't!
[10930] ... Ta , thank
Brian (PS0S0) [10931] And
Margaret (PS0PP) [10932] you.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10933] Yes, it was, yes
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10934] Cos you called, yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10935] Hello Louise, how are you love?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10936] That's right,yo cos I rang you to say we weren't coming.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10937] We thought yo , we thought we'd got
Brian (PS0S0) [10938] Erm
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10939] mixed up or something.
Brian (PS0S0) [10940] Would you like to come in I could shut the door.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10941] [...] right now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10942] Do you know that address Bri?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10943] Are you coming in?
Brian (PS0S0) [10944] Gotta pen?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10945] [...] you shut door.
Margaret (PS0PP) [10946] Yes, keep the heat in.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10947] Before I forget.
Brian (PS0S0) [10948] Oh aye the stuff.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10949] Well, Stockport, Brian's bound to know that.
Brian (PS0S0) [10950] What do they do?
Raymond (PS0PN) [10951] Well it's chemical ... polishing and stuff like that, you know.
Brian (PS0S0) [10952] Not Stockport, I don't know [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10953] No?
[10954] ... I just thought you might have happened to pass the
Brian (PS0S0) [10955] Nah
Raymond (PS0PN) [10956] way.
Brian (PS0S0) [10957] I'm sorry!
Margaret (PS0PP) [10958] Perhaps you might be able
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10959] What you got a microphone for?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10960] check at the er ...
Raymond (PS0PN) [10961] Oh yes, mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [10962] I want to know what the microphone is?
[10963] Come on!
Raymond (PS0PN) [10964] You've got eyes like a
Brian (PS0S0) [10965] I know.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10966] What the hell's going
Margaret (PS0PP) [10967] And how
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10968] on out there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10969] It'll be very casually.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10970] I thank you
Raymond (PS0PN) [10971] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10972] twice.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10973] Alright Phyl, how are you love?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [10974] [...] and
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10975] Hi!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [10976] something new.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10977] And who's this little girl?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10978] It's our mum!
Raymond (PS0PN) [10979] Hiya love!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10980] Oh it's not that long!
Margaret (PS0PP) [10981] Isn't it?
[10982] ... Well it seems like it.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10983] Last year probably!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10984] It's lucky [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10985] Hey you well kid!
[10986] Oh you look
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [10987] very well!
Louise (PS0RS) [10988] Thank you.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10989] How's things
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10990] Ho
Raymond (PS0PN) [10991] anyway?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [10992] Fine!
Margaret (PS0PP) [10993] Are you just, is this a flying is it, or
Louise (PS0RS) [10994] Yes it is, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10995] Is this your er, Orion is it [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [10996] When [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [10997] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [10998] Ooh nice!
Louise (PS0RS) [10999] Yeah, he's at the match so I thought I'd come down and
Raymond (PS0PN) [11000] That's my Volvo out there next to it.
[11001] ... The old
Margaret (PS0PP) [11002] Behind it.
Louise (PS0RS) [11003] See you see you later on.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11004] I ca , I ca I came home the other day ... and I couldn't get into [...] !
Louise (PS0RS) [11005] That's a [...] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11006] I know this car!
[11007] I thought, must be [...] nobody would go ... I turned round and no plastic on it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11008] No!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11009] When was this?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11010] there wasn't ... it wasn't ours.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11011] Near the [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11012] You know what we said?
Louise (PS0RS) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11013] Oh alright.
Louise (PS0RS) [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11014] Ooh yes!
[11015] Oh I see ye yeah.
Louise (PS0RS) [11016] So I thought I'd come down and see you.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11017] Oh that's nice!
Louise (PS0RS) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11018] On Sunday?
[11019] Yes
Louise (PS0RS) [11020] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11021] Can I just have a [...] cup of tea?
[11022] Do you want
Margaret (PS0PP) [11023] Your dad's [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [11024] do you want [...] ?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11025] No, you go and get a a drink!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11026] Have you only just come in Bri?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11027] No, go and get drink!
Brian (PS0S0) [11028] No!
[11029] I've been in ages.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11030] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11031] Go have your cup of tea! [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11032] Who's driving?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11033] I'm driving.
Brian (PS0S0) [11034] Good!
[11035] I can get pissed!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11036] I actually get a chance to ... have a drink!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11037] You ... you cheeky
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11038] devil!
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11039] First time this year!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11040] Do you take it in turns?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laughing] [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [11041] Is it your birthday?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11042] yeah [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [11043] I just say, is it my turn, you say no!
[11044] ... No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11045] Mm mm mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11046] Never mind!
Brian (PS0S0) [11047] Mm!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11048] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11049] Good game!
Brian (PS0S0) [11050] You didn't wanna watch the football.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11051] No, I thought Louise was watching it, of course!
Louise (PS0RS) [11052] Yeah , yeah, that's where he went [...] Road.
Brian (PS0S0) [11053] There's a no on the
Margaret (PS0PP) [11054] Is that whe , oh [...] where is it Liverpool?
Louise (PS0RS) [11055] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11056] Is it?
Louise (PS0RS) [11057] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11058] Liverpool and who?
Louise (PS0RS) [11059] Genoa ... in Italy.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11060] I don't know anyway!
Louise (PS0RS) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11061] Genoa!
Louise (PS0RS) [11062] Pardon?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11063] Genoa.
Louise (PS0RS) [11064] Genoa.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11065] Genoa.
Brian (PS0S0) [11066] Genoa.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11067] Italy.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11068] Is this a hoax or something?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11069] No, no, it's ... it's
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11070] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11071] real!
Brian (PS0S0) [11072] It's live.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11073] It's live!
Louise (PS0RS) [11074] Oh is this about Fergie?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11075] Yes, what a surprise!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11076] I think it's a shame I do.
Louise (PS0RS) [11077] Have you mum?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11078] Surprise, surprise, yes?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11079] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11080] She's been under too much stress I think.
Louise (PS0RS) [11081] Stress!
[11082] ... I'd love her job and her
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11083] God!
Louise (PS0RS) [11084] money!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11085] I'm not surprised I haven't left Brian in this mess [...] !
[11086] ... If she's been under stress.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11087] She's got two kids there to look after ... she's devoted [laughing] to them [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11088] [laughing] Day and night [] !
[11089] She doesn't even know them!
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11090] I think she'll trigger it off now, Charles and Di will be next.
Brian (PS0S0) [11091] Excuse me [...] will you drink your tea.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11092] Well there have been rumours before.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11093] Ah, I'll just
Margaret (PS0PP) [11094] I think
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11095] finish my tea then
Margaret (PS0PP) [11096] that erm
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11097] I'll have a drink after.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11098] Just a minute, have we come too early have we?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11099] [...] ... Beautiful isn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11100] Yeah.
[11101] ... No I ju , we finished I'd
Raymond (PS0PN) [11102] Phyl hasn't had a wash!
[11103] ... She's drinking tea!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11104] I've had a shower!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11105] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11106] I said, shall I erm ... shall I make a cup of tea?
[11107] ... Cos we would ... we [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11108] You carry on.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11109] let him out ... Louise came and interrupted us.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11110] Have you been at that gym tonight?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11111] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11112] Thought so! [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11113] Oh heather was thinking
Margaret (PS0PP) [11114] Mm mm mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11115] of starting [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [11116] I've had a shower and that, all the time you know besides [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [11117] I didn't mean that!
[11118] [laughing] I didn't mean tha [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [11119] [laugh] ... That's Louise's feet!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Louise (PS0RS) [11120] Oh who's that?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11121] It should be very
Margaret (PS0PP) [cough]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11122] funny.
[11123] ... Do you have a
Margaret (PS0PP) [11124] No, no!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11125] tape recorder hidden away in your
Raymond (PS0PN) [11126] Oh no!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11127] No I don't think they have.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11128] No!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11129] No?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11130] He has, yeah!
[11131] ... And he munching peanuts, I said it'll
Raymond (PS0PN) [11132] I'll let you have go at
Margaret (PS0PP) [11133] like that, I tell you what I'll have that then.
[11134] ... It's just that you're munching peanuts ... and [...] all
Raymond (PS0PN) [11135] Will you behave!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11136] So what've you been doing?
Louise (PS0RS) [11137] I've been going to the gym.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11138] Erm ... went [...] ... Sa , on Sunday.
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11139] Which one?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11140] Car boot [...] .
[11141] ... [whispering] He goes [...] [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [11142] It's nothing that I hear, say not another car
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11143] boot sale?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11144] Yeah.
[11145] ... No, we didn't come to the, oh yes we did, sorry, yes!
Brian (PS0S0) [11146] Excuse me this, this, is it on [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [11147] That's ... fine!
[11148] ... Absolutely.
Brian (PS0S0) [11149] It's all we've got.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11150] And she's going see [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11151] about going.
Brian (PS0S0) [11152] She's frustrated!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11153] Erm ... well you know we had Brian's mum
Raymond (PS0PN) [11154] Well you just squeeze it [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11155] in the afternoon so ... we went out in the morning to an antique fair
Margaret (PS0PP) [11156] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11157] and ... had lunch out and ... picked Brian's mum up ... mum up in the afternoon, then thought about
Raymond (PS0PN) [11158] Which one?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11159] having some tea.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11160] Where's your mum
Raymond (PS0PN) [11161] Which antique fair
Margaret (PS0PP) [11162] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11163] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [11164] was it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11165] Fradgem
Raymond (PS0PN) [11166] Oh, that one again, yeah!
[11167] You said it wasn't much cop
Brian (PS0S0) [11168] No!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11169] last time didn't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11170] Where's Fradgem
Brian (PS0S0) [11171] Wait a minute.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11172] On the hill is it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11173] No, that was er ... Merseyview when it was crap!
[11174] Rubbish! [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11175] Erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [11176] No, you were right the first time boy!
Brian (PS0S0) [11177] That was crap wasn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11178] Let's be fair!
[11179] ... Yeah, it was like [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11180] Really Brian!
Brian (PS0S0) [11181] community ... of
Raymond (PS0PN) [11182] Language!
Louise (PS0RS) [11183] I think I better come in [...] , it wasn't at all like that when I was there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11184] Ah, well the, it shows you, I told you it was a long time ago.
Louise (PS0RS) [11185] Yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11186] They've deteriorated since!
Louise (PS0RS) [11187] [laugh] ... I got him printing this.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11188] I get
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11189] It's just research isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11190] Yeah, it's a market research things, erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [11191] I get twenty five pound for it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11192] erm ... we're getting
Louise (PS0RS) [11193] Oh, are you doing it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11194] All the very best!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11195] It's a voucher.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11196] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11197] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11198] You're taping it ... they show it to you after recording yourself then?
Brian (PS0S0) [11199] Yes
Margaret (PS0PP) [11200] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11201] he has.
Louise (PS0RS) [11202] Have you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11203] So watch your language!
Louise (PS0RS) [11204] [laugh] ... You haven't?
Brian (PS0S0) [11205] Look at the microphone.
Louise (PS0RS) [11206] Turn that ... thing off!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11207] Yeah, it is
Louise (PS0RS) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [11208] crap [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11209] But we didn't, we didn't buy anything from [...] so
Brian (PS0S0) [11210] There was nothing ... to buy!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11211] No ... was it ... poor
Brian (PS0S0) [11212] It was
Margaret (PS0PP) [11213] was it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11214] It was ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11215] [...] rubbish that was!
[11216] Rubbish!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11217] We went down to see the
Margaret (PS0PP) [11218] Raymond
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11219] cottage.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11220] you're crunching those
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11221] he went to a real
Margaret (PS0PP) [11222] [...] [...] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11223] we took [...] too
Brian (PS0S0) [11224] yes!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11225] and went there.
Brian (PS0S0) [11226] Those are yours aren't they Marge? [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11227] Are they?
[11228] Oh!
[11229] Oh sorry!
Brian (PS0S0) [11230] Did you see that?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11231] You, listen you're [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11232] They were back a bit.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11233] at the weekend I'm terribly sorry!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11234] Sorry!
[11235] Sorry [...] !
Louise (PS0RS) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11236] [laugh] ... Brian's
Brian (PS0S0) [11237] [laughing] Look [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [11238] mum
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11239] Ju
Raymond (PS0PN) [11240] came
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11241] She was absolutely great this weekend!
[11242] ... Last weekend ... well for a couple of weeks she's been on a downer.
Brian (PS0S0) [11243] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11244] Ohhh
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11245] I've had ... I've had to send ... [...] over ... if we see her.
Brian (PS0S0) [11246] When she's really low
Margaret (PS0PP) [11247] Cos she don't wanna
Raymond (PS0PN) [11248] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11249] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11250] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11251] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11252] So anyway, I said to her the week before last when he went up on the Sunday, I said ... go up there and say to her
Brian (PS0S0) [11253] Tearful.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11254] erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [11255] All the best [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11256] sh you know she's feeling low and she's been
Raymond (PS0PN) [11257] Oh yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11258] not taking her tablets ... when you're feeling better we'll come up and pick you up ... and take you out.
[11259] ... Course, he went on Saturday, didn't ... and she was as right as rain!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11260] Mm mm mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11261] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11262] So whether it ... whether she's realised this
Margaret (PS0PP) [11263] But that she thought
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11264] well if I act like this I'm no , nobody's gonna come up and
Margaret (PS0PP) [11265] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11266] take me out.
Brian (PS0S0) [...] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11267] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11268] I think it's
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11269] And
Brian (PS0S0) [11270] tablets though.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11271] Her tablets have worked have worked a lot.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11272] I was going to say, she must of decided
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11273] Well she ta
Margaret (PS0PP) [11274] to take [laughing] the medication now [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11275] Mm.
[11276] ... But you're, you're getting a cup of tea to be ... we went up through ... took her for a walk
Margaret (PS0PP) [11277] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11278] Stopped and had a cup of tea.
[11279] Only a
Brian (PS0S0) [11280] Then when i
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11281] short walk, it can't do any harm that
Margaret (PS0PP) [11282] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11283] and erm ... he, she sort of gets hold of your coat, how she does ... and then I've got scarf on you bought me.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11284] [laughing] Ahhh [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11285] Yeah.
[11286] ... She said, and the jumper ... and I've got the beads [laugh] she said!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11287] Oh! ... [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11288] I didn't tell you ... but whether i ... she put them on
Margaret (PS0PP) [11289] Specially.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11290] specially, I don't know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11291] She must of done.
Louise (PS0RS) [11292] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11293] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11294] And I
Margaret (PS0PP) [11295] She must of [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11296] I don't remember buying her the jumper!
Brian (PS0S0) [11297] Mhm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11298] When did we
Brian (PS0S0) [11299] Yes.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11300] buy that jumper?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11301] Well she's obviously remembered.
Brian (PS0S0) [11302] Last year.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11303] Must of been last Christmas cos
Louise (PS0RS) [11304] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11305] we bought her beads this Christmas.
Brian (PS0S0) [11306] Yeah ... it was.
Louise (PS0RS) [11307] Yeah , I know you were buying a jumper one Christmas.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11308] And we'd had some pearls [...] ... I said, I said I don't remember buying you that, she said oh yes, she said you
Brian (PS0S0) [11309] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11310] you bought it me.
Brian (PS0S0) [11311] We always buy her that tha , well I mean we we bought her bag wi
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11312] And we bought her beads this time.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11313] Does she get er ... confused with her memory and that does she or
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11314] Oh yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11315] Oh no!
[11316] ... Oh no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11317] maybe she's
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11318] Not norma , not usually ... no, she's not senile or anything.
Brian (PS0S0) [11319] If if if, if I went down there
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11320] You can tell when
Brian (PS0S0) [11321] she lets me know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11322] Just gets
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11323] depressed?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11324] Yeah
Brian (PS0S0) [11325] Just gets depressed and
Raymond (PS0PN) [11326] That's
Brian (PS0S0) [11327] [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [11328] Well don't forget, I mean ... your not long ... lost your dad ... and erm
Brian (PS0S0) [11329] Mhm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11330] she must ... think about that a lot.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11331] Oh it's
Brian (PS0S0) [11332] Ah yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11333] and ... and depressed and
Brian (PS0S0) [11334] Well she does ... and ... the hardest part, I think there ... is when she comes down in the morning ... and for five years he was there
Margaret (PS0PP) [11335] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11336] All of sudden he's no longer there and she still has to stay like
Raymond (PS0PN) [11337] It isn't.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11338] Well she's been, yeah
Brian (PS0S0) [11339] But I mean she's in that room.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11340] In the same er ... environment.
Brian (PS0S0) [11341] Same so ... and he's not there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11342] That's right.
Brian (PS0S0) [11343] And she was brilliant!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11344] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11345] I mean she handled the funeral great ... she handled Christmas, New Year ... and ... she's entitled to have downer.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11346] Ooh
Margaret (PS0PP) [11347] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11348] she is!
Brian (PS0S0) [11349] Although it's ... annoying at the time
Margaret (PS0PP) [11350] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11351] and ... and you just sort of resent ... one ... might resent going up there
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11352] But it's not, she's not having a downer because of your dad
Brian (PS0S0) [11353] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11354] it's just a normal thing that happens
Margaret (PS0PP) [11355] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11356] with her.
Brian (PS0S0) [11357] That's right.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11358] It's just grief isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11359] But it
Margaret (PS0PP) [11360] I mean it erm
Brian (PS0S0) [11361] was taken on that she had one ... immediately sh , we lost dad
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11362] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11363] and over the
Louise (PS0RS) [11364] People [...] accept
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [11365] People won't be able to accept it more
Brian (PS0S0) [11366] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11367] because it was after
Margaret (PS0PP) [11368] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11369] people take it
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [11370] that [...] ... you know.
Brian (PS0S0) [11371] Well
Margaret (PS0PP) [11372] [...] , it's different
Raymond (PS0PN) [11373] [laughing] Oh [] , take these ruddy things away for God's sake!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11374] with different people
Brian (PS0S0) [11375] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11376] and presumably different ages as well and erm ... you know, there's no set rule to ... to getting over ... you know, the
Brian (PS0S0) [11377] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11378] loss of someone very close to you.
[11379] ... And, you've got your working day to keep you busy and all the other things that keep you
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11380] occupied ... and as you say, she's ... she's ... she's in the, the nursing home ... and I mean, it's same environment all the time ... so, she's bound to dwell it on longer isn't she?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11381] She ... oh well she, I mean she she always had
Brian (PS0S0) [11382] And they stopped her doing things.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11383] Yeah, which
Brian (PS0S0) [11384] and
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11385] she
Margaret (PS0PP) [11386] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11387] always has!
[11388] I mean she's had [...] ... sort of ... had this depression
Louise (PS0RS) [11389] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11390] and ... the thing is, she sits a ... she sits down too long and thinks about it.
[11391] ... I mean, she did it before ... even
Margaret (PS0PP) [11392] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11393] when dad was ... alive.
[11394] I mean, she doesn't read books
Margaret (PS0PP) [11395] Mm mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11396] she doesn't do a ... a great deal.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11397] Well I don't suppose she can do a great deal now, I mean she can't
Raymond (PS0PN) [11398] This is the one thing with these
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11399] No, but she can!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11400] homes isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11401] No but she ca , I mean she's not that
Raymond (PS0PN) [11402] O , as good as they are [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [11403] active now, I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11404] in
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11405] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [11406] In a way, it's not a normal life is it, because
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11407] No when you get ... she doesn't really really talk
Raymond (PS0PN) [11408] You're in that place ... surrounded
Margaret (PS0PP) [11409] [...] talk.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11410] people.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11411] No other
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11412] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11413] sort of
Raymond (PS0PN) [11414] I mean when she is, is on her own I presume she'd go to her room if she wants?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11415] health reasons why [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [11416] Oh yeah!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11417] But then
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11418] well she's got nothing to do has
Margaret (PS0PP) [11419] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11420] she, but the by what Phyl says, she, she doesn't read so
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11421] she said I'd like to do embroidery
Margaret (PS0PP) [11422] Embroidery or crochet or something like that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11423] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11424] She likes a, she gets a paper ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11425] Oh I see!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11426] Oh well, at least she yeah it's something you know, isn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11427] and er, she helps with a la ... er ... er ... lady next door
Brian (PS0S0) [11428] And she reads through it [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11429] do the
Raymond (PS0PN) [11430] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11431] crossword [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [11432] And there's other papers there
Margaret (PS0PP) [11433] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11434] So they swap their papers.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11435] But er
Margaret (PS0PP) [11436] But there's still twenty four hours to fill isn't there?
Brian (PS0S0) [11437] As far as that's concerned
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11438] And you can't [...] she's there.
Brian (PS0S0) [11439] But she's up and down!
[11440] She's helping
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11441] And the next.
Brian (PS0S0) [11442] everybody Ray.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11443] In the house [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11444] Well there you are she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [11445] Well that's what she ... likes to do isn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [11446] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11447] it?
[11448] I mean, perhaps she's fills her day I don't know.
Brian (PS0S0) [11449] And there's a ... there's three of them in this one room ... in, in the bedroom ... and they won't separate them cos ... and she, they're good for each other.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11450] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11451] Erm
Louise (PS0RS) [11452] Well like, one ... one night the er ... one of the sisters took one of the women upstairs ... and she said, I can't have my slippers there!
[11453] She said, they have to be there, Gwen puts them there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Louise (PS0RS) [11454] She has to have it ... and my nan always puts them in the same
Margaret (PS0PP) [11455] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11456] place.
Brian (PS0S0) [11457] I we ... when I
Louise (PS0RS) [11458] Same place.
Brian (PS0S0) [11459] I was there ... Saturday night ... er, and Saturday evening ... and erm ... what's her name?
[11460] Dot, not Dot ... who's the one ... in the room?
Louise (PS0RS) [11461] Dot .
Brian (PS0S0) [11462] No ... the other one, what's the name er
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11463] Oh Gladys.
Louise (PS0RS) [11464] Gladys.
Brian (PS0S0) [11465] No.
[11466] ... She's what's her names, Charlies grandmother.
Louise (PS0RS) [11467] Oh!
Brian (PS0S0) [11468] Winnie [...] ... erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [11469] What's wrong with you?
Louise (PS0RS) [11470] That's right, yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11471] She was going to bed ... she had a paper under her arm and her ... and her bag and she's off ... and ... she got up out of, so my mum said right ... I'm going now ... sort of , goodnight!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11472] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11473] And she was going upstairs to turn the bed down ... she'd done it for
Margaret (PS0PP) [11474] For everybody.
Brian (PS0S0) [11475] well for the thre , for their room
Margaret (PS0PP) [11476] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11477] and ... this woman, she's ninety odd ... and she doesn't like being in the room on her own ... so when she goes to bed ... mum goes with her.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11478] She's gotta accompany her.
Brian (PS0S0) [11479] Well she hasn't got to
Margaret (PS0PP) [11480] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11481] but she does, she's
Margaret (PS0PP) [11482] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11483] turns the beds down and that's i ... But she enjoys doing it, so ... that's a little bit for her to do.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11484] Well I suppose it gives her ... er er, it gives her some meaning.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11485] Looking after the old girl.
Brian (PS0S0) [11486] She went in
Louise (PS0RS) [11487] Well but when she's
Brian (PS0S0) [11488] and she was upstairs cleaning the other
Louise (PS0RS) [11489] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11490] day wasn't she, she when you were there?
Louise (PS0RS) [11491] And when she's go , when she's having ... having a good time ... she ta , she's like one of the nurses you know, she helps them out ... but when she's on her downer she'll sit there and she won't do anything
Raymond (PS0PN) [11492] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11493] Just as .
Louise (PS0RS) [11494] and she'll just think about it, and the more she thinks about being depressed the more she'll get depressed in thinking
Raymond (PS0PN) [11495] Worse.
Louise (PS0RS) [11496] how much she's
Raymond (PS0PN) [11497] Yes.
Louise (PS0RS) [11498] worrying everybody.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11499] Well it's extra burden isn't it?
Louise (PS0RS) [11500] So she just, yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11501] And she's giving ... the other patients their pill.
Louise (PS0RS) [11502] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11503] Oh dear!
Louise (PS0RS) [11504] Did you ever sa , you didn't say anything to her did you, about it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11505] No.
Louise (PS0RS) [11506] Cos she said to me don't tell your dad.
Brian (PS0S0) [11507] I wouldn't.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11508] What do you mean?
Louise (PS0RS) [11509] I know you wouldn't
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11510] [...] the tray.
Louise (PS0RS) [11511] Yeah pu ... putting her on the other ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11512] And are they taking them are they?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11513] They're only ... erm
Brian (PS0S0) [11514] They'll take anything!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11515] anti-depressants tablets.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Louise (PS0RS) [11516] Well ... well ... before they actually went out
Raymond (PS0PN) [11517] Jelly beans.
Louise (PS0RS) [11518] the ... you know, the nurses and that were
Raymond (PS0PN) [cough]
Louise (PS0RS) [11519] noticing that they weren't ... they get, I suppose you get to know who has what and that they thought
Brian (PS0S0) [11520] Aha.
Louise (PS0RS) [11521] well they don't have them and ... then they drew them
Raymond (PS0PN) [11522] Christ!
Louise (PS0RS) [11523] out so ... to keep an eye on them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11524] That could be nasty that though
Margaret (PS0PP) [11525] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11526] couldn't it?
[11527] ... Mind you, if they're not strong.
Brian (PS0S0) [11528] Could of been nice as well though!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11529] Powerful these, you know!
[11530] ... Cloud cuckoo land!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [laugh]
Louise (PS0RS) [11531] They phoned her up ... [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [11532] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11533] And we haven't got more really, like ... like Brian's doesn't have the time
Raymond (PS0PN) [11534] Yes.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11535] to go up [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [11536] Well I mean you're both working full time aren't you?
Brian (PS0S0) [11537] Not when it's dark nights cos by the time I get home
Louise (PS0RS) [11538] The dark nights make you feel tired as well.
Brian (PS0S0) [11539] And then she was going to bed
Raymond (PS0PN) [11540] yes, it's going on isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11541] say half past eight, nine o'clock.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11542] All this entertaining you do.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11543] Doesn't give you a lot of time for
Brian (PS0S0) [11544] You know
Margaret (PS0PP) [11545] by the time you get home.
Brian (PS0S0) [11546] when the light nights are here and we can stop up a bit later.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11547] Can't you take that off there because you're gonna [...] it.
[11548] oi do you know what?
[11549] ... He was taking this bloody little
Raymond (PS0PN) [11550] One more!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11551] thing ... early in the week ... out with him ... and ... he didn't know how to operate it, so half ... the tapes, I mean ... we checked them because he's ... he's gotta write down who is speaking on on those tapes
Louise (PS0RS) [11552] You said they were anonymous didn't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11553] and ... yeah, well just the first names, so that they
Louise (PS0RS) [11554] Oh I see!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11555] can identify
Raymond (PS0PN) [11556] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11557] who is ... saying what.
Louise (PS0RS) [11558] Ah right.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11559] They, he [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11560] So it's gonna be Louise, don't worry!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11561] I didn't say anything.
Louise (PS0RS) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11562] Are there millions of the ... Louises.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11563] But erm ... he's, he's pressed the ... play button instead of the ... record button!
Raymond (PS0PN) [whispering] [...] []
Margaret (PS0PP) [11564] And er ... so they've
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11565] [laughing] Just tell them that [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [11566] You know there's ... twenty minutes ... you know ... and there's half an hour of ... of tape when he thought he was ... taping when it was just running.
Louise (PS0RS) [11567] It's like when you were fixing the car then dad , to put it back together again. [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11568] Can I talk about my tyres Ray?
[11569] Can I see if my
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11570] I'll have a
Brian (PS0S0) [11571] tyres are there?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11572] a small sherry please Brian.
Louise (PS0RS) [11573] Okay, we'll have to make a move, I don't wanna leave it
Brian (PS0S0) [11574] Alright then.
Louise (PS0RS) [11575] too late before we go back.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11576] Have you gotta go and collect
Brian (PS0S0) [11577] No.
Louise (PS0RS) [11578] Oh no
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [11579] no, he's at football ... they're getting a mini , minibus back.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11580] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11581] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11582] Go on let's get rid of you now!
[11583] Go on!
Louise (PS0RS) [11584] Hang on!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Louise (PS0RS) [11585] I'm scratching my leg!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11586] You're gonna get thrown out you know?
Louise (PS0RS) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11587] How's your little yo little house coming?
Louise (PS0RS) [11588] Pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11589] How's your house coming on?
Louise (PS0RS) [11590] It's alright, we're not in there ... at the moment.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11591] No, no but mum was saying
Louise (PS0RS) [11592] His dad's still in there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11593] that ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11594] Doing some work now for ... Oh no
Louise (PS0RS) [11595] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11596] you're getting all the ... [...] ready.
Louise (PS0RS) [11597] Yeah, and he bought ... bought bits and that, and I got my little book, you know, my pictures in haven't I?
[11598] Of what I want and that.
[11599] ... [laughing] I gotta have [...] now cos we'd have stick it in my little book [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [11600] Items I will ... require.
Louise (PS0RS) [11601] Mm.
[11602] ... We bought er ... a solid door ... for the front.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11603] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11604] Er
Raymond (PS0PN) [11605] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11606] And somebody's gonna do the windows aren't they?
Louise (PS0RS) [11607] Yeah.
[11608] ... But ... like,wi with the door ... Dave's mum's sister ... was ... rubbing it in to try and say to his nan that we were kicking her out ... and ... so she got a bit funny over it!
[11609] So we sort of like ... trying to hang on for the time being about the door.
[11610] ... She's coming round,sh you know, she understands it's for her benefit as well because the doors on the council houses they're ... like that, just ... [...] rotten!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11611] Yes, they're all the same
Margaret (PS0PP) [11612] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11613] aren't they?
Louise (PS0RS) [11614] So, we thought we, no, we're not gonna do the windows or anything till we're in it, we don't want her to think er ... well it's the same place
Brian (PS0S0) [11615] Well yeah.
[11616] ... Yeah.
Louise (PS0RS) [11617] I mean she's lived there fo , since the ... there was ... how many?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11618] She doesn't use the upstairs at all does she?
Louise (PS0RS) [11619] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11620] She can't.
Louise (PS0RS) [11621] She just uses like, the kitchen ... and the
Margaret (PS0PP) [11622] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11623] the front room, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11624] Just a few rooms, like this.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11625] Like that's hard work for Maureen cos she has to go down and help her.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11626] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11627] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11628] You know, sort her meals out and then come back home ... that's why she wants them to move in ... with her, cos they got like a little ... self contained flat there
Louise (PS0RS) [11629] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11630] I dunno but ... she could ... she could have with a special facility for
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11631] Great!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11632] showers and ... things
Margaret (PS0PP) [11633] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11634] like that, where she could cope on her own.
Louise (PS0RS) [11635] Yeah, I mean she's got e ... you know, it's like her own little place it must be ... the bedroom must be
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11636] It's quite spacious.
Brian (PS0S0) [11637] About this long is it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11638] Yeah, I'd say from about here
Brian (PS0S0) [11639] Round to reach that room.
Louise (PS0RS) [11640] Oh, longer!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11641] [...] ... [...] room.
Louise (PS0RS) [11642] No, it'll be longer because you've got the shower unit and everything
Brian (PS0S0) [11643] Yeah.
Louise (PS0RS) [11644] there, like the bathroom.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11645] Yeah, own private shower unit, with a special seat ... so she could sit and have a shower.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11646] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11647] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11648] I mean Maureen
Margaret (PS0PP) [11649] As one of the safety features for the
Louise (PS0RS) [11650] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11651] flat.
Louise (PS0RS) [11652] Maureen hasn't worked for the last few years ... and she's ill herself, she's got hepatitis B.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11653] Good grief!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11654] Ooh well!
Louise (PS0RS) [11655] Which she caught through erm ... one of
Margaret (PS0PP) [11656] Blood?
Louise (PS0RS) [11657] the patients ... the blood on one of the patients!
[11658] ... So she
Raymond (PS0PN) [11659] It's a terrible thing really!
Louise (PS0RS) [11660] you know she hasn't worked so ... she thinks that, you know, save her having to get up early in the morning, go and do the fire
Margaret (PS0PP) [11661] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11662] get it all sorted out.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11663] I see if the coal [...] , other than, she does normally goes down and makes
Raymond (PS0PN) [11664] Ohhh right!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11665] it up
Louise (PS0RS) [11666] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11667] and
Margaret (PS0PP) [11668] Mm ... a lot
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11669] and i
Margaret (PS0PP) [11670] of work isn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11671] it's bad enough in your house, they have to physically go out and do it for somebody else.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11672] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11673] I said to Bonny you know be careful and wear rubber gloves all the time, but she said well you can't always.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11674] Oh for the hepatitis?
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [11675] Can't get it can you?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11676] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11677] You know I mean, if you're a nurse oh it's erm
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11678] They are very careful now though.
[11679] ... I mean, when you go to give blood ... they use a, a pair of gloves every time.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11680] Time.
Louise (PS0RS) [11681] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11682] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11683] And ... everything they use again
Raymond (PS0PN) [11684] Same needle.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11685] it's a ... no it's a ... no, it's in a sealed sterile pack
Margaret (PS0PP) [11686] Very funny!
Brian (PS0S0) [11687] No, you can always tell the
Margaret (PS0PP) [11688] Very droll!
Brian (PS0S0) [11689] ones who are making black puddings!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11690] [laughing] Oh!
[11691] Oh [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [11692] It's up to here, isn't it?
[11693] You know they
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Louise (PS0RS) [11694] Hey, come on!
[11695] ... The er ... I re , I better leave your magazine.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11696] I'll see you later.
Brian (PS0S0) [11697] Go on get your shoes on and hurry up!
Louise (PS0RS) [11698] Alright!
[11699] I'm coming!
Brian (PS0S0) [11700] Come on [...] !
[11701] ... Come on!
Louise (PS0RS) [11702] I must read the magazine I've just bought.
Brian (PS0S0) [11703] This is our night!
[11704] ... Where's my nights [...] ? ... [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [11705] I thought cos I thought what a load of
Brian (PS0S0) [11706] Sorry microphone!
Louise (PS0RS) [11707] cobblers!
[11708] You know these ... you know, oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11709] What?
[11710] Go on, take no notice of him!
Louise (PS0RS) [11711] You know these ... magazines that the Jehovah's ... Jehovah's Witnesses
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11712] It's
Raymond (PS0PN) [11713] Mhm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11714] gonna be your next Jehovah's Witnesses talk!
Louise (PS0RS) [11715] Erm ... the, give these magazines out don't they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11716] Awake.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11717] Oh
Margaret (PS0PP) [11718] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11719] yeah!
[11720] The Wa , this is
Louise (PS0RS) [11721] Have you ever seen one?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11722] the Watchtower isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11723] We get them frequently!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11724] The Watchtower?
Louise (PS0RS) [11725] This one ... it was saying about blood transfusions
Margaret (PS0PP) [11726] A million.
Brian (PS0S0) [11727] What's it about?
Louise (PS0RS) [11728] it really does!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11729] Well that's what they believe in.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11730] Oh yeah ,the they've said
Margaret (PS0PP) [11731] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11732] that for years!
Louise (PS0RS) [11733] It said
Raymond (PS0PN) [11734] Yeah.
Louise (PS0RS) [11735] that at last two thousand people
Margaret (PS0PP) [11736] One of their main
Louise (PS0RS) [11737] die each year!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11738] Fidos isn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11739] Yeah.
Louise (PS0RS) [11740] And I think well ... just think how many people would die if they didn't have the transfusions!
[11741] But they don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [11742] Mm.
Louise (PS0RS) [11743] put the figures for that do they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11744] Oh they're nutters they are!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11745] Yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11746] I won't argue with her now.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11747] Now do you see?
Louise (PS0RS) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11748] I'll just say I'm sorry!
Brian (PS0S0) [11749] Sorry!
Louise (PS0RS) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11750] Go!
Brian (PS0S0) [11751] It's not worth
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [11752] arguing with them is it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11753] Well is that it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11754] Oh it's
Louise (PS0RS) [11755] Yeah.
[11756] ... Right, I'll see you ... at the weekend.
[11757] See you again Margaret!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11758] Bye love!
[11759] Take care.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11760] See you love!
[11761] Take care ... erm, Louise.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [11762] No, I won't!
Brian (PS0S0) [11763] Take care.
Louise (PS0RS) [11764] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11765] You might as well take that off cos it's going to sound awful, you munching in your mouth!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11766] I'll [...] [...] , that's all.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11767] I hope the [...] .
Louise (PS0RS) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11768] Goodbye.
[11769] ... Say hello to Dave won't you?
Louise (PS0RS) [11770] Yeah, I will, yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Louise (PS0RS) [11771] I am, yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11772] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11773] Can't you take [...] .
Louise (PS0RS) [11774] [...] [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [11775] Did you ... sponge those trousers down ... Matthew's dog jumped all over you.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11776] No , they look alright now.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11777] Oh it's washed off has it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11778] Must of been clean ... mud, I dunno!
Louise (PS0RS) [11779] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11780] [...] will be there.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11781] That's why we want company.
Louise (PS0RS) [11782] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [11783] Alright love ... take care won't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11784] It's clean Margaret!
Louise (PS0RS) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11785] Bye!
Brian (PS0S0) [11786] Bye love!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11787] Bye!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11788] Mm.
[11789] ... That was unexpected wasn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11790] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11791] Totally!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11792] Totally what?
Brian (PS0S0) [11793] Unexpected.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11794] Unexpected.
[11795] ... Seeing Louise
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11796] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11797] tonight?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11798] Said she'd be back at the weekend.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11799] It must be a month since you've seen her?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11800] Mm, she's, she pops down when she can.
[11801] ... Dave doesn't.
Brian (PS0S0) [11802] Nice.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11803] Never comes with Dave very often.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11804] It's a good run isn't it?
[11805] You know, if er ... I mean, if you work.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11806] Well that's only half an hour isn't it?
[11807] ... From Wrexham.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11808] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11809] [...] [...] you know.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11810] About twenty minutes where they are.
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11811] Maybe about five minutes.
Brian (PS0S0) [11812] She's alright.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11813] And how's Mark?
Brian (PS0S0) [11814] I've
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11815] Fine.
Brian (PS0S0) [11816] I'm finished with [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11817] He's out cleaning.
Brian (PS0S0) [11818] I will one of these days.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11819] He's got exams coming up ... in April.
[11820] ... Debbie's ... doing half her training at the moment, she's erm ... training ... to be a financial advisor.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11821] You said she was going [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [11822] Oh yes, she was saying, very good!
[11823] Yeah she
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11824] So she has to go on a ... a Monday night, and she's had a few day courses as well.
[11825] She's
Margaret (PS0PP) [11826] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11827] had to go in the day.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11828] When's she taking the exam?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11829] I don't know, but she's been doing it for a while.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11830] Do they get a wage, you know for when they become a ... like you know
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11831] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11832] a financial advisor say with ... a building society?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11833] Oh yes, she'll get a
Margaret (PS0PP) [11834] But do they give it to her?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11835] No is it a ... is it a wage or
Margaret (PS0PP) [11836] [...] in the sense or
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11837] She gets a wage.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11838] So, they're working
Raymond (PS0PN) [11839] Full stop?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11840] for a company?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11841] But I imagine they got
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11842] Not if they don't work or something, do they?
[11843] They're independent.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11844] Well the one that saw us worked for Halifax.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11845] Yes, they work ... th ... if I [...] pay was salary but there it's ... and the
Margaret (PS0PP) [11846] And they
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11847] they're not usually allowed to ... recommend just the Halifax.
[11848] ... They offer to recommend
Margaret (PS0PP) [11849] That's right.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11850] what's best for you.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11851] Yes.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11852] That's why they're independent.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11853] That's right, and she didn't ... ta erm ... we didn't do this erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [11854] Oh well!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11855] er ... annuity with
Brian (PS0S0) [11856] Where's my [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11857] at the Halifax.
[11858] But whereas agency could verify these.
[11859] Erm
Brian (PS0S0) [11860] Not [...] what's its?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11861] it was another company you know?
[11862] And she said
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11863] I know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11864] well it's up to you
Raymond (PS0PN) [11865] And we [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11866] we, you know, we don't ... this is the best one.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11867] Just there to say what's the best.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11868] Cos I [...] for what they want.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11869] You know?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11870] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11871] And do.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11872] And they will go by what you want from it ... for the o , over the next ... few years you know?
Brian (PS0S0) [11873] Honestly they [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [11874] But erm ... so er ... I mean, but I I often wondered whether she got ... commission from that ... or, or not if they're supposed
Brian (PS0S0) [11875] You got the headphones for it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11876] to be independent?
[11877] Presumably they don't.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11878] Yes.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11879] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11880] And she was very nice!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11881] I think they don't.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11882] And er ... er, talk about being nice, but she really But we've [...] in
Margaret (PS0PP) [11883] knew
Raymond (PS0PN) [11884] the machine you know?
Brian (PS0S0) [11885] Mhm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11886] you know, everything
Raymond (PS0PN) [11887] and
Margaret (PS0PP) [11888] that
Raymond (PS0PN) [11889] filling in the ... thing every day.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11890] their best one
Brian (PS0S0) [11891] Oh I see it [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11892] you know, and it was there at their fingertips.
[11893] ... Very good!
[11894] Very efficient!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11895] Twenty tapes to
Brian (PS0S0) [11896] That's fair enough.
[11897] Can you keep
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11898] [...] them.
Brian (PS0S0) [11899] this after?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11900] Down there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11901] No, not that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11902] Chewing now Margaret!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11903] No, I'm not!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11904] You are, I saw you!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11905] You are!
[11906] ... He had a cup of tea at Carrie's today ... [laughing] [...] [] ... just ... you know, checking the tape and making sure that ... people's names are on it ... in the correct order [laughing] and what did you do [] ?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11907] Go on!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [11908] You don't take it to bed with that do you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11909] Wouldn't make any difference anyway Brian!
Brian (PS0S0) [11910] But tha
Margaret (PS0PP) [11911] You'd only get snoring on it!
Brian (PS0S0) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11912] Hey, you could tape him in the night so he can believe you next time, that he snores!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11913] I might do that actually , yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [11914] He doesn't snore do you mate?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11915] What about you waking up and sno ... talking!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11916] That's because of the snoring an
Brian (PS0S0) [11917] Well that's alright.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11918] Woke up one night and I heard this voice er ... can't remember what you said now no ... hey!
Brian (PS0S0) [11919] Get off!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11920] I almost went yo totally deaf then for about two hours an
Margaret (PS0PP) [11921] Good!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11922] you'd gone to sleep!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11923] Well you know what it's like now to be woken up in the night!
Raymond (PS0PN) [11924] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11925] We were woken up by
Margaret (PS0PP) [11926] It's terrible!
Brian (PS0S0) [11927] some noisy ... rowdy neighbours or ... i no, I don't think they were neighbours were they?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11928] Oh, Saturday night, yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11929] You don't know who it was?
Brian (PS0S0) [11930] We had an early night, I mean we were literally shattered!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11931] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11932] Erm ... so ... by about nine o'clock we absolutely knackered so ... we went to bed.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11933] About half past nine wasn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11934] Mm.
[11935] ... I mean, we'd just gone ... straight away well in fact, we fell asleep down here that's why we went.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11936] You did!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11937] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11938] Alright, I did!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11939] [laugh] ... You went first!
Brian (PS0S0) [11940] I know!
[11941] ... So that's why we went to bed and erm ... two o'clock in morning we heard this ... football being kicked ... o on the main road at the side there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11942] Well that's not neighbours is it?
Brian (PS0S0) [11943] Well ... no.
[11944] ... And then I heard some shouting and I, I looked out of the window, I mean it woke us up!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11945] Then he got dressed, then he went and shut the gates, then he came
Brian (PS0S0) [11946] Well I'd le
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11947] back in!
Brian (PS0S0) [11948] I left the gates open.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11949] What time was it, two o'clock?
Brian (PS0S0) [11950] Two o'clock in the morning.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11951] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11952] And I'd left the gates open an ... oh it was Friday!
[11953] ... Not Saturday.
[11954] ... Friday night.
[11955] ... Wasn't Friday night, it was Saturday, course it was!
[11956] ... Anyway ... er ... I went out and ... I shut the gates and just let them know that ... you know, they'd sort of I wa I was checking
Margaret (PS0PP) [11957] Wait a minute!
[11958] Now there was something in the paper tonight about the ... ruckus ... you said I'll have to ask Brian about that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11959] It was at the mechanics wasn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11960] What ... what night
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11961] was that?
[11962] ... Was that Saturday?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11963] There was seventy people fighting outside a mechanics!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11964] That's right!
[11965] And you said [...] about that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11966] Ooh I didn't hear that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11967] You did
Raymond (PS0PN) [11968] Last night.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11969] It was ... oh was it las
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11970] Last night?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11971] Last night?
[11972] Are you sure?
[11973] ... Oh!
[11974] ... Well perhaps it wasn't.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11975] Yes, well they're not that bad in the news are they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [11976] Well I ... [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [11977] I know they're slow ... but
Margaret (PS0PP) [11978] [laughing] it's not an ... it's not instant reporting [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [11979] No the war's over!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11980] Like I said they we erm ... th ... th ... didn't say whether they were connected with pub.
[11981] There's some suggestion that they weren't.
Margaret (PS0PP) [11982] Well the men from mechanics weren't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [11983] The gang was from erm ... where did it say now?
[11984] ... I dunno! ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [11985] I haven't, I didn't read it actually you sa what you told me.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11986] Outside the mechanics.
Brian (PS0S0) [11987] Oh it's raining!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11988] But you didn't hear anything last night?
Brian (PS0S0) [11989] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11990] So they've arrested ... there
Phyllis (PS0RR) [11991] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [11992] were three ... three in court anyway, I hope they've [...] all this lot.
[11993] ... It's stupid!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11994] Well, so, no it wasn't Saturday night then.
[11995] So what happened when you got out [...] ?
Brian (PS0S0) [11996] Well I went outside and I shut my gates and ... they saw ... I mean, er I was looking at them as I was shutting the gate, there's only ... three of them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [11997] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [11998] And a couple of girls ... so they got the message and then the ... they moved off down ... towar ... down the bottom.
[11999] ... And then there's a bit more shouting ... and they ran through the entry.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12000] Were they ... drunk?
Brian (PS0S0) [12001] Oh, they were drunk!
[12002] ... Anyway, er ... got back to bed
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12003] They weren't doing any harm were they?
Brian (PS0S0) [12004] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12005] Just noisy.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12006] Just noisy.
Brian (PS0S0) [12007] They were just noisy and I thought well ... this, I've left my gates open
Raymond (PS0PN) [12008] Well, it's breaking the law isn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12009] Oh yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12010] Oh yeah, but by the time you ring the police Ray ... and the
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12011] They've gone.
Brian (PS0S0) [12012] come
Margaret (PS0PP) [12013] By the time they respond you mean!
Brian (PS0S0) [12014] That's right!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12015] Well, don't [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [12016] Then it's all quiet and we've [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12017] Wouldn't be very hard to find them on the streets would it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12018] Oh no.
Brian (PS0S0) [12019] And when the police car comes round Ray ... and they can't do anything until they actually ca ... hear them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12020] They
Margaret (PS0PP) [12021] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12022] hide I suppose when they see the
Brian (PS0S0) [12023] Oh,ye , even if they're just quiet
Margaret (PS0PP) [12024] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12025] all the police can do is tell them ... you know?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12026] They shouldn't be on the
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12027] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12028] streets at two o'clock!
Brian (PS0S0) [12029] Oh!
[12030] ... Why not?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12031] Why not?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12032] Yes ... why not?
Brian (PS0S0) [12033] They could be walking home from anywhere!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12034] Don't walk home!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [12035] It's no ... no they have to be hearing something ... they
Margaret (PS0PP) [12036] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12037] have to making a nuisance of themselves otherwise the police
Raymond (PS0PN) [12038] I don't know
Brian (PS0S0) [12039] can't
Margaret (PS0PP) [12040] You have to be able to [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12041] I [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12042] the police can't stop you.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12043] What are you
Brian (PS0S0) [12044] Oh.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12045] doing?
Brian (PS0S0) [12046] Yeah!
[12047] ... They can ask that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12048] The problem is
Margaret (PS0PP) [12049] As long as you're going somewhere
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12050] we'd gone to bed early ... and we'd had our deepest sleep ... and of course we were
Brian (PS0S0) [12051] I told you that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12052] our slee , sleep was getting lighter at two o'clock.
[12053] ... Maybe we'd
Margaret (PS0PP) [12054] That's right!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12055] gone to bed ... at half past
Margaret (PS0PP) [12056] At midnight.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12057] eleven
Raymond (PS0PN) [12058] I wouldn't of heard it.
Brian (PS0S0) [12059] I would!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12060] I doubt if we'd heard it.
Brian (PS0S0) [12061] I wouldn't sleep
Margaret (PS0PP) [12062] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12063] through that though!
[12064] ... No way!
[12065] ... Well, they moved off and then ... just getting back to sleep ... must of been half an hour ... after we'd ... and heard this voice shout ... what you doing?
[12066] ... as if erm ... no, what's up with you now he said?
[12067] That's what it was.
[12068] ... And I looked out the window, I couldn't see anybody ... next thing a car moved off ... so ... whether it was same crowd I don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [12069] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12070] know.
[12071] ... But that was all ... I mean ... after that ... there was no ... vandalism.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12072] Trouble is when it's so ... deadly quiet in the middle of the night as it is
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12073] here
Raymond (PS0PN) [12074] And you don't expect it do you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12075] okay, so it does disturb you.
Brian (PS0S0) [12076] But, and this is like a ... er ... a wind tunnel ... cos down between the house here
Margaret (PS0PP) [12077] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12078] sometimes, and if anybody's over there
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12079] You think they're in the back don't you?
Brian (PS0S0) [12080] it sounds as if they're in the back garden or something!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12081] [...] you see.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12082] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12083] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12084] And it's because of the ... channel between the two houses, and it really does
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12085] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12086] literally ... come down
Margaret (PS0PP) [12087] Funnel the sound.
[12088] ... Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12089] Mm.
[12090] ... And i i it magnifies the sound as it's coming through ... so you're lying there and you think, there's somebody in the back!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12091] Plus we've got a leak in one of the erm ... er ... gutters ... I mean, so when it rains it goes drip, drip, drip and it pours down
Raymond (PS0PN) [12092] Oh yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12093] when it's that bad.
Brian (PS0S0) [12094] They're only clip , and I mean, I've gotta get up there and
Margaret (PS0PP) [12095] Scrape them out.
Brian (PS0S0) [12096] They're only clipped together, oh no there is a plastic, the the ... new ones.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12097] Oh they're [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12098] Oh, so it's
Brian (PS0S0) [12099] It's only clipped together
Margaret (PS0PP) [12100] come a come apart has it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12101] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12102] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12103] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12104] So I shall
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12105] We moaned about Jeffs, and ours is just as bad!
[12106] Ours is flooded!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12107] Get Phyl on your shoulders!
Brian (PS0S0) [12108] I got the ladder.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12109] Well it's alright as your er, okay with heights ... and I mean
Brian (PS0S0) [12110] I'm not
Margaret (PS0PP) [12111] no, I'm no good ... one
Raymond (PS0PN) [12112] She's bloody hopeless this one!
Brian (PS0S0) [12113] And especially when it's on the cor
Raymond (PS0PN) [12114] Oh, I'm terrified!
Brian (PS0S0) [12115] and it's on the corner so it's a difficult ... I mean it's right down [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [12116] Oh yeah, it's at angle yeah!
Brian (PS0S0) [12117] So it's ... I mean you
Margaret (PS0PP) [12118] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12119] put the ladder on the ang ... right on the cor
Raymond (PS0PN) [12120] That's a long way up isn't it Bri?
Brian (PS0S0) [12121] It's a long way down Ray!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12122] Shall I ask the window cleaner to do it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12123] Do what, sorry?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12124] Fix it when he's up there.
Brian (PS0S0) [12125] What's he gonna do?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12126] Confessions of a window cleaner.
Brian (PS0S0) [12127] Can't [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12128] through there Ray.
[12129] ... Cos I need a wall there to give me so
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12130] But ... that's our little story for
Raymond (PS0PN) [12131] Oh yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12132] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12133] the evening.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12134] Well, how eventful ... week!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12135] We went to erm ... go on, you tell her, you're gonna jump in aren't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12136] No, no.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12137] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12138] Only when you say, what did we do?
[12139] ... Or ... is, what happened
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12140] Oh we went bowling.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12141] next?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12142] We went bowling after the shopping on Saturday.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12143] Well that was exciting!
Brian (PS0S0) [12144] Ten pin bowling.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12145] Just the two of you?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12146] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12147] Er do you mind?
[12148] ... We ne but er
Brian (PS0S0) [12149] Excuse me!
[12150] ... Yo you tell your story!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12151] No, we went out on Sat , er Sunday to erm ... where did we go?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12152] Isn't he right twit [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [12153] We went to [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12154] I wanted some foam an and ... material for these chairs and divan
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12155] We
Raymond (PS0PN) [12156] chairs.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12157] I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't pass you cos we went, we came back that way.
Brian (PS0S0) [12158] Excuse me!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12159] Probably did.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12160] Did you go to look
Brian (PS0S0) [12161] Shut up!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12162] at that [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12163] We went on the top road.
Brian (PS0S0) [12164] Yes.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12165] Yes.
[12166] ... I said to [...] ... and we stopped at the market on the way back.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12167] Abugally
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12168] Er ... no the Ship market.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12169] Oh no.
[12170] ... We went
Brian (PS0S0) [12171] The what?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12172] to Abugally ... It's near the Town Hall, it's a ... the market was there so
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12173] It's really good that market!
Brian (PS0S0) [12174] She sa , she sa market ... they were [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12175] Ah but what was the weather like?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12176] We went to the market
Margaret (PS0PP) [12177] On Sunday
Brian (PS0S0) [12178] I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12179] there is a load of [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [12180] Go in erm, Abugally market we hadn't got any ... we got there, we didn't have a pound coin for the ... what's a name?
[12181] ... Machine.
Brian (PS0S0) [12182] For parking , yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12183] And Ray ... went to this little cubby hole where these ... two fellers were ... one of them looked like a policeman didn't he?
[12184] ... Said, have you got any change for the machine?
[12185] Said, oh no mate!
[12186] So, Ray said ... well what are you gonna do?
[12187] ... [laughing] And they sort of said, well ... we'll have you!
[12188] ... You know have you arrested sort of thing [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [12189] Well I says are you gonna clamp me or ... he said well we'll tow you away he said!
Brian (PS0S0) [12190] I bet they [...] Ray!
[12191] ... They go
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12192] So anyway I said, oh well ... get some change ... and I was on the point of sa ... I said to Margaret shall we ... jump in the ruddy car and we'll get back.
Brian (PS0S0) [12193] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12194] And then [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12195] We should of just got in the car and left there and then, parked
Raymond (PS0PN) [12196] I'm
Margaret (PS0PP) [12197] round the corner!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12198] I'm too soft like that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12199] Stick to the
Raymond (PS0PN) [12200] Anyway
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12201] [...] , it's only a pound.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12202] A pound! ... well we were only
Raymond (PS0PN) [12203] got the foam
Margaret (PS0PP) [12204] there for five minutes!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12205] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12206] got the foam so ... that's what we went there for, this ... this horrible night!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12207] The foam?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12208] Somebody's chairs
Raymond (PS0PN) [12209] and you fo fo fo foam!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12210] Oh foam!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12211] Ah this [...] .
[12212] ... Any rate ... we thought it mi , d ew, ereht togrday
Margaret (PS0PP) [12213] Kinsale Hall.
Brian (PS0S0) [12214] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12215] It obviously wasn't.
Brian (PS0S0) [12216] No, that wasn't shut.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12217] I was gonna ... we [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12218] Cos we went up past there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12219] Was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12220] To get ... well he en , insisted on driving all the way up the drive, I said if it were on ... there would be a
Raymond (PS0PN) [12221] I didn't!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12222] sign at the gate!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12223] You said go there!
Brian (PS0S0) [12224] Did you come back down to the
Raymond (PS0PN) [12225] No
Brian (PS0S0) [12226] main road, and it choc-a-block then!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12227] No we were alright.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12228] Oh yeah, it were!
Brian (PS0S0) [12229] Cos I went up then past
Raymond (PS0PN) [12230] Well I didn't
Brian (PS0S0) [12231] Kinsale Hall and up
Margaret (PS0PP) [12232] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12233] through ... and carried on up through
Margaret (PS0PP) [12234] What time was that when you [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12235] Well we missed any traffic.
Brian (PS0S0) [12236] It was about four o'clock wasn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12237] Oh no, we were in the mi ... well late morning.
Brian (PS0S0) [12238] Oh no!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12239] Half eleven.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12240] But anyway
Brian (PS0S0) [12241] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12242] we went to Conway
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12243] I said the mike was on, he said
Margaret (PS0PP) [12244] [laughing] Unintentionally left it on while []
Raymond (PS0PN) [12245] what's her name that opened the er ... antique
Margaret (PS0PP) [12246] but
Raymond (PS0PN) [12247] place.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12248] we were heading for Llandudno junction.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12249] Llandudno junction.
[12250] ... They weren't open.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12251] Like you say, I'm sure it's only us that does
Raymond (PS0PN) [12252] Collingdale
Margaret (PS0PP) [12253] Oh it's here!
[12254] Go, go this way!
[12255] ... And I checked we were on the causeway.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12256] Well Margaret guided us to ruddy Conway in er, anyway, we got there and we had a bit of a ... bar snack didn't we?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12257] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12258] Did you have a look at the new ... Conway ... telephone
Margaret (PS0PP) [12259] No.
Brian (PS0S0) [12260] centre?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12261] It's over the road to it
Margaret (PS0PP) [12262] [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [12263] you know, but I mean ... short of ... actually going through it, which we'd no need to, we thought
Brian (PS0S0) [12264] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12265] I liked it!
[12266] ... I must be nineteen fifty three the last time I went to ... Conway
Brian (PS0S0) [12267] It's all changed now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12268] The cinema's still there but it's now, what is it, Bingo hall now?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12269] Well I do , I mean I didn't know it anyway.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12270] [...] saw the ... Eye of the monkey there.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12271] But they [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12272] It's built the back from the main road now Ray.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12273] Mm.
[12274] ... Is it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12275] Because of the new road.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12276] Like I say, it's a long time.
Brian (PS0S0) [12277] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12278] And I said to Margaret, ooh I sa the smallest house in Britain, is is in Conway
Margaret (PS0PP) [12279] Mm.
[12280] ... [...] estuary.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12281] Cos we just went onto the front
Brian (PS0S0) [12282] And there it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12283] Mm. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12284] [laugh] ... And this great big long board.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12285] It took you from to there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12286] Brawith House ... [laughing] [...] pointing ... and the roof's only about three feet long [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [12287] You don't open one window it's it sort of thing ... [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12288] A ruddy doll's house is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12289] Mm.
[12290] ... Well, no
Raymond (PS0PN) [12291] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12292] no!
[12293] ... It's er
Raymond (PS0PN) [12294] It is an actual house, you know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12295] It it's sort of we ... almost like an end of terrace, if you like and the roads
Raymond (PS0PN) [12296] Free to go in and look round, I don't think it's open [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12297] But it's only the width of the front door and a window.
Brian (PS0S0) [12298] Yeah, well you said the roof's only ... [...] well
Margaret (PS0PP) [12299] [...] it's it is it's a, it's the
Raymond (PS0PN) [12300] Oh it's
Margaret (PS0PP) [12301] width of a door.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12302] No it isn't, it's ... it's a le
Margaret (PS0PP) [12303] That's all it is!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12304] Well the door was ... wa wasn't as wide as the walls was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12305] Wasn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [12306] It's
Margaret (PS0PP) [12307] much ... there was [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12308] Three foot [...] first, [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [12309] [laugh] ... There were only a few inches
Raymond (PS0PN) [12310] No it'll be from here
Margaret (PS0PP) [12311] either side of the door weren't there?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12312] Yo , about the width of your ... settee, I would imagine, the house.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12313] Well I didn't think it was that wide.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12314] It's ridiculous!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12315] And how high? ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12316] Normal height
Raymond (PS0PN) [12317] It was almost [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12318] As I say it was tapped on to a row.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12319] so
Margaret (PS0PP) [12320] So there they had to be
Brian (PS0S0) [12321] How do you sleep?
[12322] Standing up?
[12323] ... Sounds like a [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [12324] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [12325] On the end of the wardrobe!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12326] I suppose it was deep.
[12327] ... Probably went back a few
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12328] It was the dwarfs.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12329] feet you know,ha
Raymond (PS0PN) [12330] Skinny people!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12331] just a ... a novelty.
Brian (PS0S0) [12332] So you enjoyed your run up?
[12333] ... I tell you what ... where
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12334] what we've found
Margaret (PS0PP) [12335] Well we were gonna have a look at the antique places but none of them were open.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12336] Where, where
Brian (PS0S0) [12337] You know
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12338] did we go when we went up
Brian (PS0S0) [12339] you know the Tudor Rose?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12340] Yes, we do know that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12341] Oh yes, we found
Brian (PS0S0) [12342] Well
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12343] a nice place, a meal didn't we?
Brian (PS0S0) [12344] We found a lovely place up, but for a Sunday lunch.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12345] Oh, Ken was asking us about that.
Brian (PS0S0) [12346] Three ninety five.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12347] Oh I must tell him then!
[12348] ... Where was it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12349] And it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [12350] Tudor Rose.
Brian (PS0S0) [12351] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12352] It's
Brian (PS0S0) [12353] You know as yo ... yup yup yup shut!
[12354] ... I if you're coming up from ... Deeside now towards the
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12355] Queen's Ferry sort of ... Tudor Rose, you come to the traffic lights, then you go
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12356] Instead of turning left
Raymond (PS0PN) [12357] Lost!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12358] turn right.
Brian (PS0S0) [12359] Instead of turning left, turn right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12360] Hold on, your mother's lost!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12361] Wait a minute, I'm lost!
[12362] Coming up ... say
Brian (PS0S0) [12363] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12364] that again.
Brian (PS0S0) [12365] Coming up from
Raymond (PS0PN) [12366] Queen's Ferry
Brian (PS0S0) [12367] Queen's Ferry
Raymond (PS0PN) [12368] Two Mills
Brian (PS0S0) [12369] You know the Two
Raymond (PS0PN) [12370] Turn right.
Brian (PS0S0) [12371] Mills
Margaret (PS0PP) [12372] Oh yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12373] Yeah, you have
Margaret (PS0PP) [12374] Mhm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12375] a Little Chef on your right
Raymond (PS0PN) [12376] Little Chef.
Brian (PS0S0) [12377] turn right there ... and go about half ... half a mile, three quarters of a mile down, you got The Yacht ... pub
Margaret (PS0PP) [12378] Yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [12379] it's been there years!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12380] Is that on the right or the left?
Brian (PS0S0) [12381] On the right, just set back a bit.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12382] Oh we've seen it, yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12383] But it's a Miller's Kitchen now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12384] This is between there and then the ... Monty's of Leicester
Brian (PS0S0) [12385] Monty's of Leicester ... Yep!
[12386] ... And it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [12387] Right.
Brian (PS0S0) [12388] absolutely ... it's three ninety five
Raymond (PS0PN) [12389] That's good, yeah!
Brian (PS0S0) [12390] and
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12391] That must be about
Brian (PS0S0) [12392] it's for your roast.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12393] only if you like roast.
Brian (PS0S0) [12394] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12395] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12396] Oh well that's
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12397] no good to us is it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12398] No, it's three ninety five
Margaret (PS0PP) [12399] No, I meant for Ken he's
Brian (PS0S0) [12400] is your roast
Margaret (PS0PP) [12401] Ken asked us for
Brian (PS0S0) [12402] But you can
Margaret (PS0PP) [12403] a good place for Sunday Lunch.
Brian (PS0S0) [12404] there's a choice of two vegetarian meals ... which are four twenty five aren't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12405] Oh they do, I see that yeah, yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12406] But ... what they do, because of the volume
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12407] If you want the traditional lunch ... you have to have
Brian (PS0S0) [12408] The roast or
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12409] beef
Brian (PS0S0) [12410] whatever or
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12411] which is rib beef, Yorkshire
Margaret (PS0PP) [12412] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12413] pudding ... and it is
Brian (PS0S0) [12414] Absolutely nice!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12415] it is nice cos when Brian ordered I said I'll have chicken ... and he
Raymond (PS0PN) [12416] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12417] came back and said well you can't have chicken cos [laughing] [whispering] they only [whispering] ... they don't do chicken [] ... and er
Brian (PS0S0) [12418] I would preferred the chi
Margaret (PS0PP) [12419] So you're supposed to have ... what
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12420] So I had it, and honestly I did enjoy it, and it wasn't tough and it wasn't ... you didn't have to chew it!
Brian (PS0S0) [12421] It was nice and [...] , I mean you got ... ooh quite a lot of beef, and it was nice beef!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12422] Mhm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12423] And you had ... roast potatoes ... new potatoes
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12424] Yorkshire pudding.
Brian (PS0S0) [12425] Yorkshi , big Yorkshire pud ... two veg
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12426] Well carrots and green beans.
Brian (PS0S0) [12427] and they were fresh weren't they?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12428] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12429] So it was a nice meal.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12430] That's good!
Brian (PS0S0) [12431] But it
Raymond (PS0PN) [12432] That's very cheap!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12433] and the deserts
Brian (PS0S0) [12434] got
Margaret (PS0PP) [12435] no?
Brian (PS0S0) [12436] No, that was just fo , oh well I mean it's ... [...] , but for three ninety five it was just your roast that's it.
[12437] ... But i it was well worth
Raymond (PS0PN) [12438] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12439] that.
[12440] ... I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [12441] Well
Brian (PS0S0) [12442] it was absolutely choc-a-block!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12443] Well we we're going round Conways we sa , we'd gone into a pub for erm ... we had sort of granary baps didn't we?
[12444] And salad.
[12445] ... And we sort of walked round the town and back to where we'd parked the car ... and there were ... there were places ... you know, pubs and cafes which are
Raymond (PS0PN) [12446] Lot of eating places there and yet is was empty!
Brian (PS0S0) [12447] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12448] Well we weren't ... anyway there was very few pe , I mean at this time of the year I suppose but ... there was one place and it said Sunday lunch, there was a sort of black board outside, Sunday lunch ... erm ... four pound ... was it four fifty ... it was four fifty wasn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12449] Think so.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12450] And it was a starter, it was soup for a starter, and it was
Raymond (PS0PN) [12451] There was a sweet board as well.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12452] roast beef ... or pork
Brian (PS0S0) [12453] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12454] and ... a choice of two deserts, which was ... treacle pudding or some, whatever else it was!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12455] That's good!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12456] Cos I did look i , I said to Ray, good God!
[12457] And we'd paid two ninety five
Brian (PS0S0) [12458] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12459] for our baps and a bit a salad, you know!
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12460] And I said really, it's cheaper to have er ... a full ... you know, I mean you wouldn't want an evening meal obviously
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12461] if you had that cos if
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12462] Well it all depends ... if it's value for money ... because we ... er, we fe ... we felt that it's only one day.
[12463] ... We stopped at this place
Margaret (PS0PP) [12464] You got bulk pra ... quantity rather than quality in there!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12465] And it was ... oh!
[12466] ... Erm ... tinned
Brian (PS0S0) [12467] two ninety
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12468] meat
Brian (PS0S0) [12469] two ninety five wasn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12470] and vegetables!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12471] Oh!
Brian (PS0S0) [12472] Three course for Sunday lunch.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12473] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12474] And it was a three co , it was a three course ... Sunday lunch.
Brian (PS0S0) [12475] It was sliced roast beef that comes out of er
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12476] Sliced roast beef
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12477] It looked as if it
Brian (PS0S0) [12478] a foil!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12479] it was
Margaret (PS0PP) [12480] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12481] like the stuff you get from
Margaret (PS0PP) [12482] Microwave.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12483] the shop.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12484] Wouldn't eat it!
Brian (PS0S0) [12485] The Bird's Eye stuff you know?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12486] Already cooked.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12487] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12488] Erm ... and really, you only got what you paid for.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12489] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12490] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12491] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12492] And we thought we er, we ... we should of realised
Raymond (PS0PN) [12493] That one was cheap.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12494] it was cheap.
[12495] Yeah, two, something, like
Brian (PS0S0) [12496] Well this [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12497] two something, two sixty five or something!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12498] Mm.
[12499] ... Which is near impossible!
Brian (PS0S0) [12500] But [...] said that they went on ... Tuesday evening ... they had some people over ... and they were looking ... we were gonna go for a meal in Chorley ... er ... they'd come over from Grantham, and they were going ... over on the night ... on the night ferry, on night boat ... from Hollyhead.
[12501] They were going to Ireland.
[12502] ... Rather than, sort of , go from Manchester by plane ... what, they decided they'd drive down ... and take the car over ... so ... we were supposed to be going for a meal ... and ... they said, where shall we go for a meal?
[12503] ... Well I said ... you're going towards ... Hollyhead ... I'm going towards ... North Wales ... why not en-route ... let's find somewhere and stop and have a meal there, rather than have a meal in Chorley and have to drive all the way down.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12504] Yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [12505] And that way, it was sort of an hours drive ... from Chorley ... to ... The Two Mills ... for
Margaret (PS0PP) [12506] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12507] them.
[12508] ... So they only had two hours further on to go from The Two Mills then ... to Hollyhead basically.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12509] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12510] So ... we were gonna go to The Two Mills ... but I've heard about the Miller's Kitchen ... so I thought, we'll try it.
[12511] ... Anyway ... erm ... my meal, mine ... my two course, I had erm ... home-made soup, and you get this erm ... massive great wedge
Raymond (PS0PN) [cough]
Brian (PS0S0) [12512] massive wedge of
Raymond (PS0PN) [cough]
Brian (PS0S0) [12513] granary bread ... and ... and you get your fro ,yo yo your soup ... and then I had ... er ... the home-made steak and kidney pie, you know
Margaret (PS0PP) [12514] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12515] I mean, I like that ... and I had a couple of cups of coffee, I think mine came to about five thirty five.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12516] That's very good though isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12517] But ... I mean, wasn't paying for it, they were paying for it
Margaret (PS0PP) [12518] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12519] but ... by doing it that way, I mean I ... Phyl was ... er ... bowling Tuesday night ... and I said I was ... probably having a meal out anyway
Margaret (PS0PP) [12520] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12521] so there was nothing ... going to waste ... and it was nice for me because once we'd said goodbye ... I just had ten minutes, quarter of hour drive home
Margaret (PS0PP) [12522] And you were home.
Brian (PS0S0) [12523] and I was home.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12524] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12525] But they had a meal ... erm ... rather than
Margaret (PS0PP) [12526] And a break ... from the journey.
Brian (PS0S0) [12527] And a break, yeah.
[12528] ... That's right!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12529] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12530] So all they had to do then was go on to Hollyhead and they were refreshed ... they'd had a meal so they wouldn't be ... dying of hunger.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12531] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12532] So, it worked ideal, and that's when I first found this place ... or heard about it well I heard [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12533] No, somebody told us about it didn't they?
Brian (PS0S0) [12534] Oh yeah!
[12535] Jack and Pauline had been er ... but we've never ... er ... ventured to it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12536] Right.
Brian (PS0S0) [12537] But on a Sunday ... erm ... the restaurant is open from ... twelve o'clock ... so what you've got to ... I mean ... if you want a table ... for say, four or six of you
Raymond (PS0PN) [12538] Mm, you've gotta be there or
Brian (PS0S0) [12539] you've gotta be there bang on twelve o'clock.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12540] Oh!
Brian (PS0S0) [12541] I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [12542] Otherwise it's gone.
Brian (PS0S0) [12543] we can have a drink
Margaret (PS0PP) [12544] Because they won't reserve a table I suppose
Brian (PS0S0) [12545] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12546] will they, no?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12547] But we had ours in er ... in erm
Brian (PS0S0) [12548] In the bar,we the lounge.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12549] In the bar.
Brian (PS0S0) [12550] Well the la
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12551] The lounge you mean.
Brian (PS0S0) [12552] The lounge side of the bar.
[12553] ... It was very nice!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12554] It was very nice where we were wasn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12555] And it's all been modernised the place has ... and there's a ... a nice ... if you've got a ... a family, a young family
Margaret (PS0PP) [12556] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12557] or ... there's six or seven of you together
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12558] Yeah, there's a family room I think ... or something
Brian (PS0S0) [12559] you'd got
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12560] in there.
Brian (PS0S0) [12561] four or five tables which overlook the garden.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12562] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12563] They got the french windows and i , it looks ... it i , really is nice!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12564] Nice setting then.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12565] [...] ... Yeah!
Brian (PS0S0) [12566] Er ... but then they got an upstairs as well.
[12567] ... It really is ... nice!
[12568] ... And er ... it's certainly value for money.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12569] Mm.
[12570] ... Well it's funny because erm, when we saw Ken the other day he was saying that erm ... his niece rang him up ... and erm ... she's er ... she's gonna be in Crewe this ... weekend ... for a friend's wedding ... and, I think she must be coming up with some, some other girl as well, because the two of them, he said, I'm taking two young ladies out on Sunday for lunch ... where's a good place for a Sunday lunch you see?
[12571] So we were sort of wondering, you know, where
Brian (PS0S0) [12572] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12573] to recommend ... so, I mean, I said well I don't know about that ... you know, the Toby Inn, I mean ... I know it's a
Brian (PS0S0) [12574] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12575] [...] ... all a chain aren't they?
[12576] But er ... in North of Hull, cos he said I don't wanna go too far
Raymond (PS0PN) [12577] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12578] erm ... and somewhere sort of reasonable.
[12579] I mean ee ... it's awkward for him now because I mean ... he's ... he's not a dab hand like some men, like they, he likes messing about with menus and ... you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [...] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12580] In the kitchen he
Brian (PS0S0) [12581] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12582] I mean he ... only likes a very simple diet himself, so ... he doesn't
Brian (PS0S0) [12583] He would eat
Margaret (PS0PP) [12584] experiment with food at all.
Brian (PS0S0) [12585] He would eat the roast wouldn't he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12586] So he couldn't do anything ... oh,ye well yeah!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12587] He probably just wouldn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [12588] But
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12589] eat the vegetables!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12590] Yeah, but
Raymond (PS0PN) [12591] wo
Margaret (PS0PP) [12592] yes he'd just have to ... I mean, peas and potatoes that'll be the limit!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12593] These girls you see, they might ... they might [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12594] In the vegetables.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12595] and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [12596] Well I said to him, [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12597] Well he can have ... he can have lasagne and chips couldn't he?
Brian (PS0S0) [12598] They cou , they could have all the
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12599] They do a
Margaret (PS0PP) [12600] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12601] vegetarian meal.
[12602] There's two
Raymond (PS0PN) [12603] Oh I'm sorry!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12604] really nice vegetarian meals on the
Raymond (PS0PN) [12605] I thought you meant
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12606] menu.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12607] Ken [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12608] Well, no darling I was gonna say ... Ken he sort of suggested
Raymond (PS0PN) [12609] He can't er
Margaret (PS0PP) [12610] he said, I I'm wondering whether to do a meal myself at home.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12611] He can't that!
[12612] He couldn't [...] .
[12613] Even if it's somebody else you know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12614] Erm ... well I said it's a bit awkward really
Raymond (PS0PN) [12615] [...] so er
Margaret (PS0PP) [12616] because I mean
Brian (PS0S0) [12617] Shame really!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12618] Yeah it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12619] It is a shame!
[12620] Like
Margaret (PS0PP) [12621] You know sometimes
Raymond (PS0PN) [12622] I mean I'd
Margaret (PS0PP) [12623] especially today!
[12624] They're perhaps vegetarian or something
Raymond (PS0PN) [12625] I'd teach him if wanted but er
Margaret (PS0PP) [12626] unless you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [12627] I think this is all ... maybe go for a while [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12628] he might have done a roast dinner [laughing] and that they []
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12629] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12630] you know, they don't want meat!
[12631] ... And you're stuck then
Raymond (PS0PN) [12632] That's right.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12633] I said, and i , if you do take them out it's
Brian (PS0S0) [12634] [...] the plaice.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12635] you can have a choice
Raymond (PS0PN) [12636] Oh yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12637] of course.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12638] Well Margaret won't.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12639] So
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12640] They'll make you salad
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12641] a light salad if you like.
Brian (PS0S0) [12642] and he wanted
Margaret (PS0PP) [12643] That's right yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12644] I mean if he a a steak ... and they had something
Raymond (PS0PN) [12645] Well yes
Brian (PS0S0) [12646] else.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12647] that's what he's having.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12648] Yes, well this is it.
Brian (PS0S0) [12649] But they haven't got any money.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12650] If you're eat
Brian (PS0S0) [12651] I mean you
Margaret (PS0PP) [12652] well, that's it, it's good value isn't it really?
[12653] ... Oh I'll have to tell him about that.
[12654] So it's the Miller's
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12655] kitchen?
Brian (PS0S0) [12656] The Miller's Kitchen.
[12657] It's it's the old Yacht.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12658] Near the pub.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12659] Ye , I should
Brian (PS0S0) [12660] There.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12661] think so, yeah.
[12662] You've gotta
Brian (PS0S0) [12663] Well turn right
Margaret (PS0PP) [12664] turn right at the Two Mills
Brian (PS0S0) [12665] Two Mills ... and it's
Raymond (PS0PN) [12666] depends when he wants to go.
Brian (PS0S0) [12667] it's that pub.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12668] What day is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12669] Sunday, isn't it?
[12670] They're coming in
Raymond (PS0PN) [12671] Oh it's the Su
Margaret (PS0PP) [12672] the wedding's on Saturday and they're coming up
Raymond (PS0PN) [12673] Oh I se , oh alright.
Brian (PS0S0) [12674] That's why I thought
Margaret (PS0PP) [12675] On Sunday
Brian (PS0S0) [12676] might as well have it
Raymond (PS0PN) [12677] Well that might do then mightn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [12678] By the other two.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12679] That's what he said ... where's a good place for Sunday lunch you see?
[12680] So they'll
Raymond (PS0PN) [12681] Nice setting.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12682] be there in the morning and
Brian (PS0S0) [12683] It is a nice setting ... erm ... and ... three of them together
Raymond (PS0PN) [12684] Give him a ring now.
Brian (PS0S0) [12685] Yeah ... Well it's a
Margaret (PS0PP) [12686] What for?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12687] Well in case you don't see him, you know, in time.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12688] Well I probably will see him!
[12689] I'm not gonna ring him tomorrow, it's Wednesday!
Brian (PS0S0) [12690] But if you fa
Raymond (PS0PN) [12691] Well I just thought sorry!
Brian (PS0S0) [12692] and if you fancy it one Sunday
Margaret (PS0PP) [12693] You're gonna get
Brian (PS0S0) [12694] Give us , give us a shout.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12695] a smack round the back the of head in a minute!
Brian (PS0S0) [12696] and we'll plan it.
[12697] ... No, it was good value wasn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12698] It was, yeah.
[12699] ... But I think I would pay the extra and that ... and have a choice next time.
Brian (PS0S0) [12700] Ah, well you can do!
[12701] It was just I wanted to see what that was
Margaret (PS0PP) [12702] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12703] like
Raymond (PS0PN) [12704] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12705] well you can pay the extra.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12706] I mean we we just
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12707] we just don't like beef now.
[12708] ... I'd eat
Margaret (PS0PP) [12709] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12710] a couple of slices.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12711] I don't mind now and again.
Brian (PS0S0) [12712] And these are nice thinly sliced ... and it was nice beef!
[12713] It was nice roast dinner!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12714] Very [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12715] You're having ro roast beef.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12716] And you didn't have to chew it.
Brian (PS0S0) [12717] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12718] I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [12719] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12720] I hate it when you get ... mm ... chewing it.
Brian (PS0S0) [12721] But that oh it wasn't bad
Margaret (PS0PP) [12722] It just tastes of Indian rubber!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12723] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [12724] It was nice!
[12725] It was good value.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12726] I'd sooner have cold meat than [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [12727] But there's so many choices ... I mean you could have what you wanted.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12728] I'd sooner not have any beef at all!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12729] Well, I, no, I mean ... I used to love lamb!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12730] Mm ... lamb's tasty though
Raymond (PS0PN) [12731] Brought up on ruddy
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12732] isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12733] lamb for the weekend!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12734] I dunno it's [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [12735] We always had a lamb [...] leg of lamb.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12736] Cos we had to have lamb for years!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12737] Famous Welsh lamb.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12738] And we had some of
Raymond (PS0PN) [12739] And then cold lamb after
Margaret (PS0PP) [12740] Pat's son invited us round for dinner, I never thought so say you know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12741] That was tradition in them days.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12742] Don't do anything [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12743] That's what they did.
[12744] ... That's what people did.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12745] particular for us
Raymond (PS0PN) [12746] You know ... we used to have some a while ago.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12747] won't do chicken or fish.
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12748] But erm ... she did this roast lamb
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12749] and ahhh The pair of us were
Raymond (PS0PN) [12750] It's too fatty!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12751] rolling around!
[12752] And I said, gives him indigestion dunnit?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12753] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12754] Just couldn't eat it, I sa it was all
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12755] fatty! ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12756] [...] , it's probably our diet, it's what we get used to.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12757] You know, it took ages to digest!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12758] I mean we eat that much veg ... vegetables
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12759] It is fatty!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12760] And I thought it was just me, but Ray was the
Raymond (PS0PN) [12761] and chicken
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12762] same.
Brian (PS0S0) [12763] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12764] fish.
[12765] ... We probably get used to that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12766] Well that's it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12767] Well that's it and i i i
Brian (PS0S0) [12768] And you don't really want the rest.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12769] It's an easily digestible
Raymond (PS0PN) [12770] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12771] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12772] And then they have steak [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [12773] Erm ... food.
Brian (PS0S0) [12774] I had a black pudding this morning.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12775] Good
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12776] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12777] grief!
Brian (PS0S0) [12778] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12779] All that cholesterol Brian!
Brian (PS0S0) [12780] [laughing] I could eat hundreds [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [12781] Ah, but think of iron.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12782] That's what the doctor told me to eat ... didn't he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12783] What, black pudding?
Brian (PS0S0) [12784] Black pudding.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12785] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12786] Ooh, I tell you what you want though.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12787] For the iron?
Brian (PS0S0) [12788] Got a
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12789] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12790] couple of things for you.
[12791] ... You want water from, where was it I said to you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12792] From er
Margaret (PS0PP) [12793] [laugh] Lourdes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12794] No, no!
[12795] From nor , somewhere in Snowdonia ... they send this water all over the country ... and it's so full of iron ... Germany, they buy it ... [...] .
[12796] ... But er, it's a good ... I don't know about cure, but whatever!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12797] Dunno, something you read
Raymond (PS0PN) [12798] The rheuma
Margaret (PS0PP) [12799] in the paper yesterday.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12800] I told you on Su on Sunday!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12801] Mm, I've forgotten now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12802] Er, rheumatism, what else was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12803] I dunno, I didn't read it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12804] Something else like that, you know, but the iron in it is marvellous!
[12805] ... Because it's rich the
Brian (PS0S0) [12806] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12807] the earths it comes out of so they're selling it by the bottle in Germany.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12808] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12809] The other thing you got ... vitamin G was it?
[12810] ... D!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12811] Gonna say, I've never heard of G, what's that?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12812] Vitamin B one.
[12813] ... Very good for you!
[12814] ... Good for the liver.
Brian (PS0S0) [12815] Is that what's in this water?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12816] Oh no this is
Margaret (PS0PP) [12817] No!
[12818] No!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12819] this is iron!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12820] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12821] But they're doing a
Margaret (PS0PP) [12822] You might as well just buy
Raymond (PS0PN) [12823] a series up in the er
Margaret (PS0PP) [12824] iron and multi-vitamin or ... jus just iron tablets!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12825] in the Observer you see, and they're telling you
Brian (PS0S0) [12826] You've got [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12827] all these, the good
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12828] I dunno whether they [...] whether you have to absorb these
Raymond (PS0PN) [12829] How to live till you're a hundred you know, live a good life.
[12830] ... And this ... all the these things
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12831] thickenings really.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12832] course the emphasis is on don't smoke!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12833] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [12834] drink [...] and all that
Margaret (PS0PP) [12835] I know they do say if you eat a balanced diet you shouldn't need supplements.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12836] plenty of er, you know pulses and cereals.
Brian (PS0S0) [12837] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12838] But I think when you get a certain age
Brian (PS0S0) [12839] Which is plain most of things
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12840] cos you do need supplements
Brian (PS0S0) [12841] that's what you're eating mainly anyway!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12842] er
Raymond (PS0PN) [12843] That's right!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12844] Yeah.
[12845] ... But I mean, do you actually absorb them do you?
Brian (PS0S0) [12846] I think occasionally we do.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12847] I mean, they say you're supposed
Raymond (PS0PN) [12848] Is it fortified?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12849] the best way to have these vitamins in with
Brian (PS0S0) [12850] Be nice though wouldn't it?
[12851] To be
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12852] with your diet ... cos it, then he gives all
Brian (PS0S0) [12853] be able to
Margaret (PS0PP) [12854] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12855] not have to
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12856] worry about any of it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12857] So instead of swallowing vitamin C tablets just
Brian (PS0S0) [12858] Eat what you want
Margaret (PS0PP) [12859] use a main ... juice all ti
Brian (PS0S0) [12860] the way we used to.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12861] or eat more oranges.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12862] No, I mean if er ...
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12863] [...] vegetarian pulses ... vegetables
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12864] you can eat erm ... other things can't you?
Brian (PS0S0) [12865] There's so many things
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12866] Like if they
Brian (PS0S0) [12867] you can do with them.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12868] With erm
Brian (PS0S0) [12869] But ... but when you're working
Margaret (PS0PP) [...] [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12870] with us working, we don't have
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12871] Like
Brian (PS0S0) [12872] the time
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12873] green cabbage and
Brian (PS0S0) [12874] to prepare it all
Margaret (PS0PP) [12875] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12876] butter beans.
Brian (PS0S0) [12877] And, if it's left for too long
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12878] I was reading the
Brian (PS0S0) [12879] they
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12880] erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [12881] Oh [...] , yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12882] the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12883] Yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [12884] So
Raymond (PS0PN) [12885] That's right, yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [12886] but Phyl doesn't
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12887] I
Brian (PS0S0) [12888] know what time I'm gonna be in anyway.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12889] and er ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12890] I bought some last weekend.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12891] Oh yes!
[12892] Yes.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12893] But [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [12894] Except when she's got the cars out
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12895] it's the
Brian (PS0S0) [12896] and I'll sort of ring to say
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12897] Erm
Brian (PS0S0) [12898] well first of all I had it
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12899] in one sachet you get
Brian (PS0S0) [12900] er
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12901] your
Brian (PS0S0) [12902] but now I haven't got it ... it would be handy cos in
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12903] what do they call it?
[12904] Your
Brian (PS0S0) [12905] evening, just coming home
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12906] your daily dosage or whatever!
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12907] of erm
Brian (PS0S0) [12908] [...] ring to say
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12909] calcium
Brian (PS0S0) [12910] I'll be home [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12911] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12912] in just
Margaret (PS0PP) [12913] Good!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12914] one sachet.
Brian (PS0S0) [12915] I mean, I ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12916] I bought it in a jar and it was it was funny at the poppy actually and they said
Raymond (PS0PN) [12917] I mean ah, garlic to me is an unknown quantity.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12918] He was nosing along the shelves and I said oh!
[12919] ... What about
Raymond (PS0PN) [12920] And of course
Margaret (PS0PP) [12921] Horlicks?
[12922] He said I haven't those for years!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12923] I do no, butter wasn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12924] [...] making the water.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12925] On the, on the ration then it was.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12926] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [12927] firstly

67 (Tape 030602)

Margaret (PS0PP) [12928] Mind you, I mean there's no point they'll be looking up the first word of each of these
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12929] No, but it could have several cheeks, quite often ... yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12930] You think so?
[12931] ... As one word you mean?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12932] Is it two words ... or one?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12933] Well it's hyphenated.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12934] Well it'd be hyphenated wouldn't it?
[12935] I thought.
Brian (PS0S0) [12936] What's those things?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12937] Oh, of course!
[12938] You want one of these, is this ... any good this thing?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12939] See i well
Margaret (PS0PP) [12940] What is it?
[12941] ... What have you got Brian?
Raymond (PS0PN) [12942] It's a mini computer.
Brian (PS0S0) [12943] I was reading it, I just can't remember what it said saddle.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12944] Oh it won't be in there!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12945] Haven't you got a good dictionary?
Brian (PS0S0) [12946] Yeah, I've found one.
[12947] ... Hang on!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12948] With explanations in.
Brian (PS0S0) [12949] No.
[12950] ... Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12951] What?
Brian (PS0S0) [12952] I'll find one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12953] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12954] We've only got a small Oxford one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12955] Has it got
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [12956] derivations in it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12957] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12958] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12959] Oh well then, that'll be in there!
Brian (PS0S0) [12960] Erm ... Rogers ... got Rogers!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12961] Hammerstein?
Brian (PS0S0) [12962] A [...] book.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12963] Mm.
[12964] ... He's got an itch did he say?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12965] I'm in an invalid's chair.
Brian (PS0S0) [12966] It's got
Margaret (PS0PP) [12967] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12968] I'd be inclined
Margaret (PS0PP) [12969] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12970] to
Margaret (PS0PP) [12971] Ooh! ... [...] glass off!
Raymond (PS0PN) [12972] to guess anyway ... because the ... i it'll keep them
Margaret (PS0PP) [12973] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12974] nice and warm that would you see wouldn't it?
[12975] ... The [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12976] And it's got the drawer underneath it, it clipped underneath ... for a thingy
Raymond (PS0PN) [12977] What do you think
Margaret (PS0PP) [12978] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12979] it's under?
[12980] What [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12981] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12982] Put your crutch under there couldn't you?
[12983] ... Only one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [12984] Could be anywhere.
[12985] ... Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12986] [laughing] Telescope crutch [] goes under there Brian!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12987] A telescopic crutch.
Brian (PS0S0) [12988] But yo you want [...] , nothing on?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12989] We need some drinks Brian.
Brian (PS0S0) [12990] Yes, well I'm gonna
Phyllis (PS0RR) [12991] Erm
Brian (PS0S0) [12992] learn it, hasn't he?
Margaret (PS0PP) [12993] I, I don't want another
Raymond (PS0PN) [12994] oi
Margaret (PS0PP) [12995] drink Brian.
Raymond (PS0PN) [12996] That's ... I've just given this to our Carrie.
Brian (PS0S0) [12997] No, you haven't it's ours that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [12998] Oh!
[12999] ... It looks like the same i , is it the same as our one?
Brian (PS0S0) [13000] It is the same one!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13001] The Pocket Oxford?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13002] [...] , it's the one we had for many many years!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13003] The one we bought [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13004] Honest Phyl!
Brian (PS0S0) [13005] Saddle chair
Raymond (PS0PN) [13006] Saddle cheek was it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13007] saddle cheek.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13008] Saddle cheek [...] , yes.
[13009] ... It's very ela
Brian (PS0S0) [13010] It's not in here.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13011] it's too elaborate for a hall porter's chairs isn't
Brian (PS0S0) [13012] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13013] it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13014] Definite!
Margaret (PS0PP) [...] [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [13015] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13016] It's ... yeah ... definitely too ... fancy for that.
Brian (PS0S0) [13017] That's it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13018] Well maybe it's a Masonic throne then!
Brian (PS0S0) [13019] It is!
[13020] ... I've seen one before.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13021] Have you?
Brian (PS0S0) [13022] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13023] You can tell me, you're in the Masons [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13024] The best saddle, saddle, saddle
Brian (PS0S0) [13025] Have you seen the
Raymond (PS0PN) [13026] saddle
Brian (PS0S0) [13027] handshake and the ... the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13028] No, they haven't got it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13029] Did he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13030] It's not in here.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13031] No?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13032] Got saddle bag, saddle shape
Margaret (PS0PP) [13033] saddle horse saddle
Raymond (PS0PN) [13034] saddle
Margaret (PS0PP) [13035] saddle bags
Raymond (PS0PN) [13036] got saddle bag.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13037] C will come before ... H.
Brian (PS0S0) [13038] Saddle horse ... saddle bridge.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13039] Want lunch?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13040] No.
Brian (PS0S0) [13041] Seducing power.
[13042] ... Saddle.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13043] I mean,ye , because it's
Brian (PS0S0) [13044] Saddle seat!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13045] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13046] because it's leather ... erm
Brian (PS0S0) [13047] Eh.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13048] bound, leather covered
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13049] He did say it is
Margaret (PS0PP) [13050] it may
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13051] very comfortable!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13052] Yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [13053] It's a Masonic
Margaret (PS0PP) [13054] It makes you ... think of saddle doesn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13055] You ought to buy a Masonic one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13056] But erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [13057] What er ... persuades you to say that I wonder?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13058] Pretty stupid!
Brian (PS0S0) [13059] A most obvious reason!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13060] Is it [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13061] Yeah, but there's gotta be a reason?
Brian (PS0S0) [13062] Don't be silly!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13063] Anyway, dad says he's got it.
Brian (PS0S0) [13064] Cheek ... let's have in the book.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13065] [laughing] [...] [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [13066] Go and put it back!
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [13067] I'll have that [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [13068] Don't speak to anybody.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13069] How do you spell cheetah?
[13070] I've
Margaret (PS0PP) [13071] Peas in a pod.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13072] bloody forgotten now!
Brian (PS0S0) [13073] C H ... double E
Raymond (PS0PN) [13074] Oh that's right, yeah!
[13075] ... Chee ... the side wall has gone.
[13076] ... Cheetah.
[13077] ... By jove!
[13078] ... Didn't think I could make it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13079] Well what's that saddle?
[13080] ... Did you see anything under the saddle?
[13081] ... Have you looked?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13082] Well ... well obviously [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [13083] Well, I haven't been watching what you were doing!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13084] You were just asking me, what about saddle?
[13085] I said, yeah
Brian (PS0S0) [13086] seven er
Raymond (PS0PN) [13087] saddle's [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [13088] eight.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13089] [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13090] Seven or eight.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13091] Now, well how can you get erm ... three ... and you have to have a book ... on er ... chairs I would imagine. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13092] Well if it was that easy, I don't suppose they'd put it in ... in here would they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13093] Well they're giving you all the alternatives so ... a
Margaret (PS0PP) [13094] Yeah, so if it were in the dictionary, I mean ... I know you able to turn to the
Raymond (PS0PN) [13095] Smacks of er, Cilla Black straight away.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13096] Cilla Black?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13097] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13098] Where's the connection there?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13099] Programme or whatever it is ... a lorra lorra idiots!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13100] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13101] Yeah, I think it's the invalid!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13102] No, I don't think it is, I think it's too daft for Columbo but
Raymond (PS0PN) [13103] That's right!
[13104] A rich invalid, I mean you wouldn't be good ... but what they forget ... oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13105] Well why not?
Brian (PS0S0) [13106] Well I had in our our our
Raymond (PS0PN) [13107] [whispering] [...] [] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13108] book here
Margaret (PS0PP) [13109] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13110] and ... what I found ... is ... that one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13111] Which , which ... are you going to miss out?
[13112] Which year?
Brian (PS0S0) [13113] Erm ... this ... the nineteen ninety one edition.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13114] We've got the ninety two one now!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13115] ner ner ner ner ner ner
Margaret (PS0PP) [13116] I'll give you that when you come up.
Brian (PS0S0) [13117] Right!
[13118] ... We'll have a look see.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13119] Yeah, that's a point I must have a look in Martin's fridge.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13120] I've looked dear!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13121] I'll have a look ... Brian, right, or shall I wait
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13122] till tomorrow?
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13123] I'll look tomorrow.
[13124] ... Got it, did you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13125] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13126] Oh I didn't know.
Brian (PS0S0) [13127] Right, what we have here ... in my book ... ooh I'll tell you in moment
Margaret (PS0PP) [13128] [laugh] in your ... nineteen ninety one!
Brian (PS0S0) [13129] my nineteen ninety one edition ... [...] ... right, there are ... er ... wing armchairs ... ah ... No, no, no, it's not that, now let's see, I've something like yours, let me think.
[13130] ... Oh that was a lambing chair it wasn't that one was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13131] Did you look in the other one, the nineteen ninety edition?
[13132] ... No.
[13133] ... No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13134] Didn't seem to hang like that though is it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13135] You know what we missed?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13136] Wouldn't say they were [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13137] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13138] chairs, but
Margaret (PS0PP) [13139] What have we missed?
Brian (PS0S0) [13140] The antique ... show in Chester ... on River Dee.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13141] Oh yes!
[13142] ... In fact, [...] like that
Raymond (PS0PN) [13143] Oh yeah I saw that, yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13144] about month ago didn't they?
Brian (PS0S0) [13145] I missed that!
[13146] ... I got the Chronicle last week ... and there in it
Margaret (PS0PP) [13147] Cos you got the [...] [...] haven't they?
Brian (PS0S0) [13148] there in the Chronicle was this ... thing to say what a good response they had!
[13149] And I went
Margaret (PS0PP) [13150] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13151] Darn and blast!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13152] That's me.
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13153] Oh gee.
[13154] It's [...] frustration all time isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13155] Oh it's nice to look at though Ray.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13156] Oh I know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13157] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13158] I wanna take some home with me.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13159] One of the little [...] will do!
Brian (PS0S0) [13160] The only thing we'll take from there is a bit of dust as we walk
Raymond (PS0PN) [13161] A Georgian Denville that's all I ask!
Brian (PS0S0) [13162] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13163] No, I wanted that!
[13164] You wanted a chaise.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13165] Alright, both!
Brian (PS0S0) [13166] Where the hell is this stupid chair!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13167] Which copy is that Brian?
Brian (PS0S0) [13168] This is the one Mark and Deb bought us, the Antiques Roadshow.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13169] Ah yes!
Brian (PS0S0) [13170] It's very, very good!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13171] Anything you like there?
[13172] Or haven't you been through it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13173] Well this erm ... there's the bottom of your ... cupboard here.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13174] Ha, mm mm mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13175] Oh yes!
Brian (PS0S0) [13176] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13177] What do you mean, you mean?
Brian (PS0S0) [13178] You know wha
Margaret (PS0PP) [13179] The, the erm ... the pine one?
Brian (PS0S0) [13180] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13181] Er ... yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [13182] Similar like that, mhm
Raymond (PS0PN) [13183] That
Brian (PS0S0) [13184] mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13185] that
Margaret (PS0PP) [13186] It
Raymond (PS0PN) [13187] [...] er ... er, perhaps a good one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13188] Is that talbot?
Brian (PS0S0) [13189] Well ... we wait a minute!
[13190] ... So as your pots!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13191] They're similar ... similar design but
Brian (PS0S0) [13192] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13193] but
Raymond (PS0PN) [13194] Any resemblance
Margaret (PS0PP) [13195] much, much better!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13196] is [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13197] What's it worth though?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13198] I ... I think any resemblance is ... purely superficial.
Brian (PS0S0) [13199] Well it doesn't matter!
[13200] ... There was something about a chair.
[13201] ... I saw a chair!
[13202] ... What about ... did you watch the Antiques Roadshow on Sunday?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13203] Yes.
[13204] ... Missed the very beginning
Brian (PS0S0) [13205] Did you see that
Margaret (PS0PP) [13206] of it.
Brian (PS0S0) [13207] erm ... that davenport, that tall davenport?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13208] Mm!
[13209] Yes!
Brian (PS0S0) [13210] Wowee
Margaret (PS0PP) [13211] It was a standing davenport wasn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13212] Mmmm!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13213] Yes, very unusual.
Brian (PS0S0) [13214] Absolutely wonderful!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13215] Wunderbar ... What was the er ... the thing that was interesting in that?
[13216] ... Er
Brian (PS0S0) [13217] I lost this blinking chair!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13218] Can't remember now. ... [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13219] Very, he was supposed to read the whole of it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13220] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13221] Don't know what the hell I've done with that chair Marg !
Margaret (PS0PP) [13222] Yo , are you sure you've seen it or ... the one that was like it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13223] Same one mummy.
Brian (PS0S0) [13224] It's in there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13225] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13226] Must be, did they say the age of it?
[13227] ... Probably
Margaret (PS0PP) [13228] Mm, on the, no no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13229] seventeen something [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13230] Er, ooh well I'm saying no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13231] Er
Brian (PS0S0) [13232] What's say there [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13233] I didn't read ... all the blurb.
[13234] ... Don't know what it said.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13235] Probably seen ... them ... like I said
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13236] On a ship.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13237] in a ... film or a play somewhere.
[13238] ... Television.
Brian (PS0S0) [13239] Yeah, see there's ... there's your sedan chair.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13240] Oh yes, the one that was
Brian (PS0S0) [cough]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13241] like a ... upright type one is
Brian (PS0S0) [13242] Mm mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13243] they were ... carried about in.
Brian (PS0S0) [13244] Where the ... the poles went
Margaret (PS0PP) [13245] No it doesn't you a name.
Brian (PS0S0) [13246] through.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13247] Want this?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13248] Mm mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13249] In the [...] , that [...] till I find the bloody chair!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13250] Oh, some with notes on!
[13251] Four song girls.
Brian (PS0S0) [13252] Oh this is ridiculous!
[13253] ... I thought I'd seen it in here ... let's have a look.
[13254] ... And the chaise is there, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13255] I know, [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13256] Beautiful!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13257] Look here,the there's a programme on about ... er, Rembrandt here ... and it said of the ni , nine hundred and eighty eight Rembrandts ... in nineteen thirteen, only around three hundred are still thought to be genuine ... to a display of art
Raymond (PS0PN) [13258] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13259] galleries worldwide!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13260] God, a lot profit [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [13261] A lot of the , a lot of them were done by his pupils.
[13262] ... But er ... well!
[13263] Well!
[13264] Well!
Brian (PS0S0) [13265] No ... sorry!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13266] Erh I suppose I
Brian (PS0S0) [13267] These blinking davenports in here!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13268] Beautiful!
Brian (PS0S0) [13269] Mm!
[13270] ... One can dream can't we?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13271] Well, this is it Brian.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13272] Yeah.
[13273] ... [laughing] That's []
Brian (PS0S0) [13274] That
Margaret (PS0PP) [13275] [laughing] about all Brian [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [13276] That's quite a nice book that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13277] Ooh yes!
[13278] ... Antique Roadshow.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13279] Yes.
[13280] ... I saw that from a book club.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13281] From the children [...] ... from Mark and
Brian (PS0S0) [13282] Deb.
[13283] ... What about this?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13284] It's a nice ... present that isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13285] This?
[13286] ... Oh [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13287] Margaret, are you going to have same again
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [13288] chuck
Margaret (PS0PP) [13289] Er ... just a half a glass ... erm
Brian (PS0S0) [13290] Okay.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13291] [...] with toni , have you got any tonic water?
Brian (PS0S0) [13292] I certainly have some tonic water.
[13293] ... Gets a bit heavy that orange doesn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13294] Well it's ... just that it's citric and er
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [13295] Well are you gonna have tonic water darling?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13296] No, I'll have a small ... orange juice please.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13297] [laugh] ... Erh
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13298] Don't do a ... a lot of supper for me ... Phyl, will you please?
Brian (PS0S0) [13299] You can have what you're given!
[13300] ... I just put the tonic in the same glass is that alright?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13301] Oh that's grand, yes!
Brian (PS0S0) [13302] [laughing] It's a bit cloudy [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13303] Won't be a minute.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13304] [laugh] ... [...] to eat.
Brian (PS0S0) [13305] You're not getting ... too much to eat anyway!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13306] Oh that's alright.
Brian (PS0S0) [13307] It is Wednesday, the middle of the week and I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [13308] Well, this is it!
Brian (PS0S0) [13309] Monday's a big ba
Margaret (PS0PP) [13310] ca ... [...] governor!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13311] Can't we get what?
Brian (PS0S0) [13312] Can't not get anything.
[13313] ... Not getting much [...] !
[13314] ... Times is hard!
[13315] ... [whispering] I've got [...] [] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [13316] We went along to the auction rooms this morning.
Brian (PS0S0) [13317] Anything good?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13318] Er, well Ray let us in on a ... little ... oak table ... erm ... and forget to ring up ... to find out whether
Brian (PS0S0) [13319] Who was the seller.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13320] yes, got it or not.
[13321] Oh, I'll have to ring them in the morning.
[13322] ... But er, they had quite a few computers there, and I said to Ray find out how much the computers are.
[13323] ... Anyway, he said er ... and there were two or three identical ... you know, in ... monitors
Brian (PS0S0) [13324] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13325] and erm ... the er ... what's his name?
[13326] And they were going
Brian (PS0S0) [13327] [whispering] Take a look up there [] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [13328] er ... oh right.
Brian (PS0S0) [13329] Otherwise it'll make a hell of a noise!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13330] Clatter, yeah.
[13331] ... Erm ... anyway, he said er ... oh he said they were about ... thirty two ... thirty two K those.
Brian (PS0S0) [13332] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13333] So I said, oh no, [laughing] yes!
[13334] ... Looking for a something a little more modest than that [] !
[13335] ... But erm
Brian (PS0S0) [13336] That's not thirty two thousand pound!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13337] well ... well I said to him, I said, well whatever that is ... but er ... he said oh it might be five hu
Brian (PS0S0) [13338] It might be [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13339] no it was five, he said he'll give about five hundred and
Brian (PS0S0) [13340] Well then
Margaret (PS0PP) [13341] fifty, you know?
Brian (PS0S0) [13342] cos that's ... hundred
Margaret (PS0PP) [13343] Ee
Brian (PS0S0) [13344] and twenty five K that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13345] Yeah, I was gonna say it's a ... it's a business model isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13346] Ha.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13347] Erm ... thirty two K.
Brian (PS0S0) [13348] It does do most things.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13349] But I said well ... he said, oh well you can't play games on it!
[13350] I said i ... [laughing] I wasn't thinking of that [] !
[13351] ... I mean, that's what the kids have got, the Commodores.
[13352] ... Something in between
Brian (PS0S0) [13353] I mean, you're talking of sort of, fifteen hundred
Margaret (PS0PP) [13354] the two.
Brian (PS0S0) [13355] two thousand pounds for a computer so
Margaret (PS0PP) [13356] Well, I said these have obviously come out
Brian (PS0S0) [13357] that's still a good deal at that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13358] of offices, or businesses
Brian (PS0S0) [13359] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13360] perhaps, you know ... hit the dust!
[13361] ... But erm ... sort of thought of something in between, but he said ... he said those will probably go for about five hundred and fifty
Brian (PS0S0) [13362] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13363] I think he said.
Brian (PS0S0) [13364] People will be ju
Margaret (PS0PP) [13365] And they had another one
Brian (PS0S0) [13366] jumping at them.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13367] be ab , well this is it, yes!
[13368] Yeah!
Brian (PS0S0) [13369] [...] Excuse me!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13370] Have some more.
Brian (PS0S0) [13371] [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [13372] Oh my ... yeah, [...] .
[13373] ... Got it! [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13374] I heard that Brian!
[13375] I heard that!
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13376] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13377] [...] ... Ahhh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13378] Have you found this chair that he was looking for in that?
[13379] ... I don't think that chair could have been in that book Brian.
Brian (PS0S0) [13380] Mm, I don't think it is Margaret.
[13381] I don't know where I've seen it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13382] Probably seen it in the Radio Times. ... [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [13383] I know where I saw it before!
[13384] I've seen it before ... it was on the television!
[13385] ... On Sunday.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13386] In that ... programme, that's right!
Brian (PS0S0) [13387] What time are you preparing dinner my darling?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13388] Now.
Brian (PS0S0) [13389] Just that like that?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13390] Yeah, that one there.
Brian (PS0S0) [13391] I've been asked to bring this in like this.
[13392] ... It's not my idea!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13393] You were just following instructions.
Brian (PS0S0) [13394] It's way I [...] , I , I just follow the instructions.
Margaret (PS0PP) [cough]
Brian (PS0S0) [13395] Phylli wants a drink of orange.
[13396] ... Yeah?
[13397] ... What about Brian?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13398] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [13399] Champagne or ordinary glass.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13400] Er ... just a small one.
[13401] ... Erm
Brian (PS0S0) [13402] Is that too small Phyl?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13403] No.
Brian (PS0S0) [13404] Is that enough?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13405] Yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13406] Good grief!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13407] There's only one slice bread.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13408] Thank you very much.
[13409] ... Very good of you!
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13410] [laugh] ... You mean a doorstep?
Brian (PS0S0) [13411] Hey!
[13412] Possible!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13413] Yeah, if you finally [...] !
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13414] Do you want mayonnaise Margaret?
[13415] I got
Margaret (PS0PP) [13416] Erm
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13417] another ... pot
Margaret (PS0PP) [13418] Yep.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13419] in there if yo
Margaret (PS0PP) [13420] No, that's fine.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13421] there's some
Brian (PS0S0) [13422] What do you want salad cream?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13423] Oh no!
[13424] ... Horrible stuff!
Brian (PS0S0) [13425] Mayonnaise isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13426] No, it's not quite the same Bri !
Brian (PS0S0) [13427] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13428] And you've been eating it all this time!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13429] Oh!
[13430] ... Thank you [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13431] And there's me thought it was all the same!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13432] Oh shut up!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13433] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13434] Let him ramble!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13435] What are you drinking?
[13436] ... Is that ... just
Margaret (PS0PP) [13437] Tonic water.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13438] tonic?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13439] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13440] There's er ... there's ... plenty of orange Margaret [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13441] No, I don't want any more ... orange juice, there's too much acidity in it!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13442] Oh right!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13443] So ... upset the old joints!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13444] Didn't get any bitter lemon this week ... ee ... just clean forgot!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13445] No, I prefer tonic water actually.
Brian (PS0S0) [13446] Which one is mine?
[13447] ... Oh right!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13448] Erm ... the one without the cling film over.
Brian (PS0S0) [13449] Thank you.
[13450] ... I haven't put this in there yet.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13451] The one with the cholesterol.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13452] [laughing] Especially for you Bri [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [13453] Plenty of it!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13454] Yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [13455] Better be loads of it!
[13456] ... I don't want to see that er
Margaret (PS0PP) [13457] It's really saturated!
Brian (PS0S0) [13458] [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [13459] How's it going at work anyway?
[13460] You still working overtime or
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13461] Er ... right
Margaret (PS0PP) [13462] has it calmed down?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13463] up to now I haven't.
[13464] Oh I say that, when did I work overtime?
[13465] Monday, cos I couldn't go to the gym.
[13466] ... It was late when erm ... I finished.
[13467] ... [shouting] Brian, do you want mayonnaise?
[13468] ... If you do bring the other one in [] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13469] Beg your pardon?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13470] [shouting] Do you want mayonnaise [] ?
Brian (PS0S0) [13471] No, thank you.
[13472] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13473] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13474] Mm!
[13475] ... I think I'll try some of Paul Newman's dressing.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13476] [laughing] Oh yeah [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13477] And it's ... all new systems ... all new packages!
[13478] ... Our own computer's going.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13479] This is with this new company now?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13480] Yeah.
[13481] So we're gonna be on-line ... to a ... a mainframe in ... Ripon would you believe it!
[13482] ... Erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [13483] Yorkshire!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13484] Yeah.
[13485] ... I'll be glad when ours goes!
[13486] ... They got nobody to look after us!
[13487] I spend half my time down in town there sorting out the problems!
[13488] ... Plus, you have to do all your own tape back-ups!
[13489] ... So, I'll be glad to see it go!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13490] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13491] Cos we did have a young man ... I say young man, he was in his ... early twenties, he used to do all that, and he left and they never replaced him!
[13492] ... Well, he used to do other jobs as well!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13493] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13494] And you really mi ... don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [13495] Miss
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13496] realise cos he
Margaret (PS0PP) [13497] some help.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13498] although he di ... he wasn't fully occupied ... you realised when they're gone.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13499] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13500] You know ... how much you
Margaret (PS0PP) [13501] Well that's why he went probably!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13502] [...] ... probably because he wasn't fully occupied and the money was useless!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13503] Oh, he left of his own accord?
[13504] He wasn't pushed?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13505] Yeah, he lo , left
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13506] of his own accord.
Brian (PS0S0) [13507] You're welcome.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13508] I've heard you selling the guy that showed you these two manifestos ... one by the Tories and one by the Labour ... and the one that stuck in my mind ... it's that the Labour Party will have a minimum wage ... to comply with the rest of Europe.
[13509] ... Tories saying, if they have a minimum wage it will tear a lot of people out of work.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13510] And cause unemployment.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13511] What a bloody disgrace when you're in a democracy and they want ... minimum
Brian (PS0S0) [13512] Pathetic!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13513] wage!
[13514] ... So you can employ someone for
Brian (PS0S0) [13515] Peanuts!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13516] ten pounds! ... [...] ... no law against ... [...] ... the swines!
[13517] ... God help them!
Brian (PS0S0) [13518] Shows you that ... [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [13519] Oh this is disgusting!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13520] Yes, [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [13521] [...] ... mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13522] Mm, mm mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13523] Mm.
[13524] ... Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13525] Don't ... do that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13526] That's when accidents happen Brian!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13527] That's what [...] ... oh that's alright for you!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13528] Hit my bloody shoe that will!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13529] I like to know ... about this polyunsaturated ... thing?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13530] What do you want to know about it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13531] Well this ... Carrie was on today about it.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13532] I didn't put spread on your bread cos you said you weren't ... takers.
Brian (PS0S0) [13533] I got that out.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13534] Are you sti , are you taking it?
[13535] ... Still have spread on your bed ... bread?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13536] No.
[13537] ... Well not ... not if I have salad on it, anyway.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13538] You didn't [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13539] No, I didn't put any on.
[13540] ... It's only Brian's.
Brian (PS0S0) [13541] It's for me who put it on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13542] Do you see, do you see what was written on the olive oil bottle and it says it's got ... polyunsaturates.
[13543] ... Cos I thought it pure, you know [...] ?
Brian (PS0S0) [13544] It's supposed to be.
[13545] ... Natural.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13546] Oh!
Brian (PS0S0) [13547] Natural!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13548] They don't put animal fat in it, surely do they?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13549] Mm.
[13550] ... They
Brian (PS0S0) [13551] Ay
Margaret (PS0PP) [13552] do!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13553] Some vegetable fat
Margaret (PS0PP) [13554] They add a
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13555] is very er
Margaret (PS0PP) [13556] loaded.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13557] er, yeah!
[13558] ... Very bad for you!
[13559] ... And when
Margaret (PS0PP) [13560] Mhm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13561] Brian had ... his cholesterol test on er ... little bit of paper they ... give you ... with all the information ... it tells you ... the only oils you should use are erm ... olive oil and ... saffro ... saffrall
Margaret (PS0PP) [13562] Saffron.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13563] oil.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13564] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13565] What about rapeseed oil?
[13566] Isn't that very
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13567] No, didn't say that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13568] Mm.
[13569] ... Rapeseed that
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13570] Well they had a
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13571] list of what to eat, and a list of ... list of what not to eat.
Brian (PS0S0) [13572] And I'm eating all the stuff I shouldn't be eating!
[13573] ... Not tonight.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13574] Josephine!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13575] So I ... I only saffra , saffrall oil now ... or olive oil.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13576] Mhm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13577] I didn't realise that
Raymond (PS0PN) [13578] What about sunflower oil?
Brian (PS0S0) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13579] No ... not sunflower oil.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13580] No good?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13581] It's better than er ... animal fat.
[13582] ... All the vegetable fats are better than the animal
Margaret (PS0PP) [13583] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13584] fat.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13585] Yes, of course!
Brian (PS0S0) [13586] Be, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [13587] Oh well we shouldn't have any rust.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13588] No.
Brian (PS0S0) [13589] You think you're doing the right thing by eating ... olive oil ... pure oils but
Margaret (PS0PP) [13590] Another twenty years, there'll be another turnabout
Brian (PS0S0) [13591] Ah yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13592] [laughing] won't there [] ?
[13593] ... Saying, you should be eating butter!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13594] Should be
Brian (PS0S0) [13595] Well it said
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13596] drinking ... whole milk!
Brian (PS0S0) [13597] it said in the paper this week ... that ... erm ... broccoli ... is the finest ... vegetable you can eat.
[13598] ... The finest green you can eat.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13599] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13600] And it helps ... stave off cancer, didn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13601] Well it helps fight
Brian (PS0S0) [13602] It did kind of like ... whatever!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13603] it helps fight ... the cancer cells it
Brian (PS0S0) [13604] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13605] said.
[13606] ... Where fats ... encourage it.
[13607] ... Er greens.
Brian (PS0S0) [13608] But it specifically said
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13609] Broccoli.
Brian (PS0S0) [13610] Broccoli.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13611] But ... when tha , when the doctor was on in the morning, the doctor said it's the same as the carotene in carrot
Brian (PS0S0) [13612] Yeah, and not actually
Margaret (PS0PP) [13613] I was just going to say they said carrots
Brian (PS0S0) [13614] not actually [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13615] a while ago didn't they?
[13616] Was the
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13617] Said it's the
Brian (PS0S0) [13618] Not [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13619] same ... it's the same sort of thing.
[13620] ... And really the doctors have known that for years because ... a lot of cancer patients they put on ... er
Margaret (PS0PP) [13621] Diets.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13622] vegetable ... diets.
[13623] ... They can't have chocolate ... they can have this erm ... what's it called?
[13624] ... Not cova , is it coba or something?
[13625] ... This natural chocolate.
[13626] They can't have cakes ... they can't have anything ... that's got fats in it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13627] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13628] One minute they say you can't eat [...] , and then they say that you can eat it!
Brian (PS0S0) [13629] Yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13630] I think you've gotta try and strike a balance haven't you?
[13631] ... You'll get paranoid if you
Margaret (PS0PP) [13632] Well ... I think we all are to a certain extent!
Brian (PS0S0) [13633] It's not knowing isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13634] Everything in moderation
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13635] is my answer [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [13636] It's just some people that eat everything they live till they're ruddy ... seventy or it's ... makes you wonder!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13637] Yeah, but I suppose they have to go by ... the general rule
Raymond (PS0PN) [13638] Oh yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13639] but I mean, you'll always find exceptions won't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13640] I'll go along with that.
Brian (PS0S0) [13641] Well I'm not gonna last too much longer!
[13642] Much longer!
[13643] ... If I eat another thing that's bad for me!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13644] You don't Brian!
[13645] You
Brian (PS0S0) [13646] No, I do , I eat, I eat plenty of fruit ... and ... occasionally I'll have ... a bag of chips.
[13647] ... Very, very occasionally!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13648] We have ... we have erm ... fresh vegetables every day.
Brian (PS0S0) [13649] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13650] And black pudding!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13651] You're pretty active though aren't you?
Brian (PS0S0) [13652] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13653] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13654] You're not very active?
Brian (PS0S0) [13655] Well I am
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13656] But not me.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13657] And you're
Brian (PS0S0) [13658] I'm up ... up and down stairs
Margaret (PS0PP) [13659] you're still fit.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13660] I will up ... I will up your insurance!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13661] Yeah.
[13662] ... Get the policy
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13663] and get him to sign before he does anything else!
[13664] ... And stress!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13665] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13666] Stress is probably ... a greater factor than has been allowed for up to now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13667] Yes , but don't ... women ... [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [13668] You won't actually get
Raymond (PS0PN) [13669] give a lot of stress to men?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13670] Pressure!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13671] I'm, I'm just asking the question!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13672] Brian's not here enough to take any sp pressure from me!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13673] I mean, they probably don't! [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13674] He's not here long enough!
[13675] ... He works one and half shifts, or two double shifts ... [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [13676] You stick with me!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13677] Well, better than being [...] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [13678] That'll keep you in black pudding for a while, Brian!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13679] Carol's friends ... he doesn't though!
[13680] ... He doesn't get paid overtime.
[13681] ... It's erm ... these friends of ours, Judith and Peter, they've retired.
[13682] ... They
Margaret (PS0PP) [13683] Early retirement.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13684] Oh the one ... from Manchester?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13685] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13686] Oh well.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13687] They retired the sixth of March.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13688] Had they sold ... the boarding house?
[13689] Or have they
Brian (PS0S0) [13690] No they've got a hotel.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13691] Have they?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13692] Hotel, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13693] I thought you were gonna say the children are having it.
Brian (PS0S0) [13694] No, they sold it and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [13695] So what, what are they gonna do?
Brian (PS0S0) [13696] Nothing.
[13697] ... They've got enough money not to ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13698] Worry.
[13699] ... Mind you, they've worked hard for
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13700] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13701] quite a few years, haven't they, to build that place up?
Raymond (PS0PN) [13702] Sold herself to death that girl won't she?
Brian (PS0S0) [13703] [laughing] Quite possible [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13704] Well she's
Brian (PS0S0) [13705] But
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13706] only ... she's only about forty eight ... and Peter's about
Raymond (PS0PN) [13707] This yours?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13708] fifty five or fifty
Brian (PS0S0) [13709] He's fifty five.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13710] six.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13711] She was a heavy smoker wasn't she?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13712] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13713] But they've got the mobile home
Margaret (PS0PP) [13714] She is a heavy smoker , is she still?
Brian (PS0S0) [13715] in there.
[13716] ... In the lakes ... so, they're gonna spend as much time as they can ... round the
Margaret (PS0PP) [13717] Up there.
Brian (PS0S0) [13718] the lakes walking, which they love anyway.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13719] Mind you, I think the last few years they ... they'd sort of erm ... relaxed a bit more
Brian (PS0S0) [13720] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13721] hadn't they?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13722] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13723] Yeah.
[13724] ... But Peter used to rush home on a ... on a Sunday ... for the hotel for ... for the guests that were coming in Sunday [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [13725] Monday morning you see, yes.
Brian (PS0S0) [13726] Or Sunday afternoon [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13727] Oh I see yeah.
[13728] Start er, work on a Monday wouldn't they, yeah?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13729] Well it's ... one of those occupations or businesses ... that he had to be there more or less
Brian (PS0S0) [...] [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13730] well while he was building it up.
Brian (PS0S0) [13731] Sure.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13732] Round the clock wasn't it?
[13733] It was ... no holidays ... for a
Brian (PS0S0) [13734] But they
Margaret (PS0PP) [13735] few years.
Brian (PS0S0) [13736] they sold it ... for quite a bit of money ... and
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13737] Well when he was thinking of selling it before he was talking about three hundred thousand.
Brian (PS0S0) [13738] Yeah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13739] So I bet he's come away with a quarter of a million!
Brian (PS0S0) [13740] Oh yeah, the guy that ... he hasn't reduced it at all!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13741] He hasn't?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13742] Oh well he's asked them ... what he was asking for it then?
Brian (PS0S0) [13743] Mm.
[13744] ... This guy wanted it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13745] Did it take him very long to sell it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13746] A chap saw it in ... November, no!
[13747] Sorry, September ... and really they weren't ... bothered about selling at that time ... although they always said if the right offer comes along
Margaret (PS0PP) [13748] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13749] anyway, they went away and ... this chap saw it ... and er ... he made an offer and Peter ... flatly refused it!
[13750] ... They went away on their ... silver wedding ... was it their silver?
[13751] ... In October ... Novem
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13752] They went on a cruise round the Caribbean didn't they for
Brian (PS0S0) [13753] It was November wasn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13754] for three weeks or something?
Brian (PS0S0) [13755] Yeah, well that was their silver wedding anniversary wasn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13756] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13757] And they came back and ... didn't hear anything.
[13758] Anyway, just after Christmas this guy says er ... I still want ... the hotel ... so Peter said well you better put something down, you ge , better get something ... so he ... he went and put fifty thousand ... as a deposit on it ... and ... then said ... his legal ... advisers would be in touch ... and they had a month went by and they never heard anything, so Peter rang up, he was telling me the other day, er, he rang up ... yeah, go, he doesn't want it you know?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13759] Did he, did he have a ... the buyer have to ... sell some property?
Brian (PS0S0) [13760] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13761] Oh!
Brian (PS0S0) [13762] No, nothing!
[13763] ... Anyway, erm ... he got a letter, erm ... when was it?
[13764] Gi , he got a letter ... a fortnight ago to say ... he wanted a completion date ... of the sixth of March!
[13765] ... This ... this ... this chap
Margaret (PS0PP) [13766] My birthday!
Brian (PS0S0) [13767] did ... and erm ... everything was through ... the money, everything, went in that fortnight!
[13768] ... Er, they had to be out
Margaret (PS0PP) [13769] So that was quite quick then really
Brian (PS0S0) [13770] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13771] wasn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13772] They, they got straight out.
[13773] Anyway, er ... they we , they moved out last Friday ... so ... this week when he rang me, they'd been round past the hotel ... and er ... there's walls being knocked down!
[13774] There's
Margaret (PS0PP) [13775] Oh God!
Brian (PS0S0) [13776] everything!
[13777] ... So what this ... people are gonna do with it ... bu but it's a prime location.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13778] Perhaps he's getting ready
Brian (PS0S0) [13779] I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [13780] for the er, Manchester Olympics?
Brian (PS0S0) [13781] Mm mm mm.
[13782] ... Well, it's quite possible!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13783] Long way to go for that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [13784] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13785] So
Raymond (PS0PN) [13786] If it ever comes off?
Brian (PS0S0) [13787] But ... Peter and Judith are
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13788] The thing is, with Peter and Judith the , I mean their house is only a modest house isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13789] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13790] Isn't it?
[13791] I mean they don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [13792] They've got a house in Manchester haven't they?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13793] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [13794] Yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [13795] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13796] just a ... half a mile from the
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13797] A semi
Brian (PS0S0) [13798] hotel like.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13799] detached er
Brian (PS0S0) [13800] [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13801] average
Margaret (PS0PP) [13802] Home.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13803] type of house, you know?
Brian (PS0S0) [13804] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13805] And they're quite happy to stop there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13806] Mm.
[13807] ... Well!
Brian (PS0S0) [13808] It's a quite a [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13809] That's it , I mean they can live on
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13810] Well he
Margaret (PS0PP) [13811] their ... investments I suppose.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13812] well they didn't get a ... a good income.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13813] Ooh yeah
Brian (PS0S0) [13814] Oh yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13815] I'll say!
Brian (PS0S0) [13816] I said to her ... Judith, when she rang ... ah, what's the old man gonna do?
[13817] ... And she said ... nothing!
[13818] ... I said, he won't be able to ... she said I think he will.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13819] They're having a year
Margaret (PS0PP) [13820] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13821] off aren't they?
Brian (PS0S0) [13822] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13823] Before they
Margaret (PS0PP) [13824] [laughing] Well []
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13825] decide what they're gonna do.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13826] I was gonna say they're having the rest of their lives off by the sound of it!
Brian (PS0S0) [13827] Mm.
[13828] ... I think he'll do something [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13829] So, they may ... Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13830] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13831] have to.
[13832] ... And be involved in something.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13833] Oh well go back to the
Raymond (PS0PN) [13834] Should be very nice to have the money.
Brian (PS0S0) [13835] Swines!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13836] [laugh] ... I hate them already!
Raymond (PS0PN) [13837] I'm not bitter!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13838] [laugh] ... Grinding the teeth!
Brian (PS0S0) [13839] I mean he ... he spent a lot of money on the last few years on the hotel ... cos he had ... six extra rooms built on didn't he?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13840] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [13841] He had a wing built on.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13842] I know you said he'd,ma , had all the rooms made
Brian (PS0S0) [13843] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13844] en-suite.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13845] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13846] And er
Brian (PS0S0) [13847] And that was quite a lot of money
Margaret (PS0PP) [13848] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13849] there.
[13850] ... The building, then you got the re-fit and you gotta ... re-furbish it and then he had a
Margaret (PS0PP) [13851] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13852] four poster bed
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13853] A sauna and
Brian (PS0S0) [13854] A sauna.
[13855] ... It was quite a good little ear , I mean it was a commercial hotel ... and
Margaret (PS0PP) [13856] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13857] that, that was it, basically, but ... think it was
Margaret (PS0PP) [13858] Well how long have they ... had it?
[13859] ... About seventeen years was it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13860] Yeah, because it's only half
Margaret (PS0PP) [13861] It may be about that.
Brian (PS0S0) [13862] a ... they only bought half of it
Margaret (PS0PP) [13863] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13864] [...] ... it was
Margaret (PS0PP) [13865] Initially.
Brian (PS0S0) [13866] half, it was a big house and the they bought half of it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13867] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13868] It worked out and then they only lived in the other half while they were doing it, wasn't it?
[13869] ... Then they bought the whole lot.
[13870] No!
[13871] ... They had half
Margaret (PS0PP) [13872] They converted all of it then did they?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13873] They lived in the basement.
Brian (PS0S0) [13874] That's right, they lived in the basement.
[13875] They bought half ... excuse me ... half of it ... and they lived in the basement, then the other half came up for sale so Peter bought ... the whole lot then
Margaret (PS0PP) [13876] Building ... mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13877] and then converted it into a ... you know, sort of, a modest ... hotel.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13878] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13879] And er
Margaret (PS0PP) [13880] Well obviously he's built up his clientele over the years
Brian (PS0S0) [13881] Oh yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [13882] and er ... it's paid off.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13883] It's a commercial
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13884] hotel so he had all his weekends off.
Brian (PS0S0) [13885] Yep.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13886] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13887] And Friday afternoon they could get away
Margaret (PS0PP) [13888] Off to the golf course.
Brian (PS0S0) [13889] No!
[13890] To the caravan or
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13891] They do a lot of walking.
Brian (PS0S0) [13892] They
Margaret (PS0PP) [13893] Do ... what?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13894] Walking.
Brian (PS0S0) [13895] Walking.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13896] I mean they're going
Brian (PS0S0) [13897] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13898] to Majorca for a week but ... it won't be to ... laze around ... it's for ... it's for walking.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13899] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13900] Cos this is the ideal time to go.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13901] Yes, that's right.
Brian (PS0S0) [13902] Can't think of going on holiday
Margaret (PS0PP) [13903] Before it gets too hot.
Brian (PS0S0) [13904] abroad and packing your walking boots though can you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13905] No but, I mean
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13906] Well they do, they love it!
Brian (PS0S0) [13907] I mean they ... they've got these soft walking boots, I don't know whether you've seen them?
Margaret (PS0PP) [13908] Well ... Cathy's mum and dad
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13909] They're light
Margaret (PS0PP) [13910] do it, you know.
Brian (PS0S0) [13911] Yeah!
[13912] ... Only at night.
Raymond (PS0PN) [13913] Oh yeah , cos I saw them once!
Brian (PS0S0) [13914] Mm.
[13915] ... I mean, when you think of ours, I mean there's your ... she says you'd
Margaret (PS0PP) [13916] Yeah!
Brian (PS0S0) [13917] your feet are aching
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13918] [...] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13919] No, but if we star , if we did it seriously, we'd have different boots wouldn't we?
[13920] We
Brian (PS0S0) [13921] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13922] but we don't.
Brian (PS0S0) [13923] Oh well, alright!
[13924] Horrible thing!
[13925] ... Wait till the weather's fine we'll be up there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [13926] Well we used
Margaret (PS0PP) [13927] Well no wonder they go up
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [13928] to the lakes a lot, cos I mean, it's beautiful
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13929] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13930] up there, for walking isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [13931] Where they've got their van sited ... it is
Margaret (PS0PP) [13932] Where are they?
[13933] Where is it?
[13934] I mean
Brian (PS0S0) [13935] It's erm ... just by Newby Bridge ... at erm ... Newby Bridge.
[13936] ... We say ... er ... how can I explain?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13937] Past Kendal.
Brian (PS0S0) [13938] Yeah, it's past Kendal
Margaret (PS0PP) [13939] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13940] erm ... heading towards Grange-over-Sands
Margaret (PS0PP) [13941] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13942] and they're about
Margaret (PS0PP) [13943] Is that going ... west is it, or east?
Brian (PS0S0) [13944] West.
[13945] ... Instead of going
Margaret (PS0PP) [13946] Ah!
[13947] ... It's in
Brian (PS0S0) [13948] This is to Kendal
Margaret (PS0PP) [13949] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [13950] and instead of going ... Kendal, and up to Windermere
Margaret (PS0PP) [13951] To the right, yeah
Brian (PS0S0) [13952] yo you go
Margaret (PS0PP) [13953] [laughing] on the map!
[13954] ... On []
Brian (PS0S0) [13955] you go there to the left towards Grange-over- Sands
Margaret (PS0PP) [13956] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [13957] and ... Newby Bridge ... is just around there.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13958] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13959] But it's a lovely ... erm ... location! ... [...] itself I mean I
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13960] Well it is erm ... it is a proper ... mobile home and they've got
Brian (PS0S0) [13961] Oh yeah!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13962] a bit of garden where there's ... you know it's ... got like a little rockery and you've got
Margaret (PS0PP) [13963] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13964] erm ... picnic area ... well ... barbecue area they've
Brian (PS0S0) [13965] Yep.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13966] got.
Brian (PS0S0) [13967] Nice!
[13968] ... Where's the photographs of it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13969] Ooh, I don't know.
Brian (PS0S0) [13970] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [13971] But then it cost them sixteen thousand didn't it?
[13972] ... With a site.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13973] How long ago was that?
Brian (PS0S0) [13974] Two years ago.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13975] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13976] Well about that.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13977] And the they ... they keep saying to us, why don't you use it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13978] You see in the ... lakes ... mm, I mean you pay much more though
Brian (PS0S0) [13979] Oh yeah, you pay for the site.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13980] isn't it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13981] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [13982] This is the thing.
[13983] ... Cos it is a nice site
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13984] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [13985] Got everything piped on there ... so
Margaret (PS0PP) [13986] Mm.
[13987] ... Is it ... erm ... are there are any residents there?
[13988] Is it a residential?
Brian (PS0S0) [13989] No, it's only a te , well I mean you can only stay on it for ten months a year.
Margaret (PS0PP) [13990] Ah yes!
Brian (PS0S0) [13991] A year ... so er ... from the first of March ... to the first of October ... you can use the ... but ... after
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13992] You can go up for the day.
Brian (PS0S0) [13993] Oh yes, but you can't
Margaret (PS0PP) [13994] Not continuously occupy it.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13995] But you're not
Brian (PS0S0) [13996] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13997] sleeping
Margaret (PS0PP) [13998] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [13999] there.
Brian (PS0S0) [14000] And they like the ... erm ... the water, excuse me! ... [yawn] ... they like the water drained out ... the site, you know, they like it sort of all the water switched off on, on each van
Margaret (PS0PP) [14001] Oh yeah!
Brian (PS0S0) [14002] through the winter
Margaret (PS0PP) [14003] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14004] so there's no ... there not gonna be any
Margaret (PS0PP) [14005] Freeze up.
Brian (PS0S0) [14006] any problems at all
Margaret (PS0PP) [14007] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14008] they can drain the whole system on the site so
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14009] I mean you
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14010] can go up there if you were going to stay and make a cup of tea and a ... sandwich or something.
Brian (PS0S0) [14011] So you're taking your water with you.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14012] Well you'd have to take a car ... er
Brian (PS0S0) [14013] Kettle of water.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14014] water.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14015] So is there somebody on the site all the time
Brian (PS0S0) [14016] Oh yeah
Margaret (PS0PP) [14017] then?
Brian (PS0S0) [14018] there's a resident
Margaret (PS0PP) [14019] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14020] erm ... site manager there.
[14021] ... I think he opens the ... no, he can't do it on the site cos it's in er ... what is it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14022] National Trust.
Brian (PS0S0) [14023] National Trust ... land so [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14024] Well where they are you can only see a , one other van can't you?
[14025] Yet there's loads there, it's just the way the ... [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [14026] Oh it's on an elevated spot is it or the
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14027] Well sort, there sort of like little coves aren't they and ... they're ... you can only just see one van from where they are.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14028] Oh that's nice because it's
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14029] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14030] private [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [14031] Oh yeah!
[14032] ... I mean we had er
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14033] It's like being in the woods isn't it?
Brian (PS0S0) [14034] marvellous time didn't we?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14035] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14036] It was so quiet!
[14037] ... Erm, until it rained ... and when it rains
Margaret (PS0PP) [14038] And then it drums on the roof then!
Brian (PS0S0) [14039] Ahhh
Margaret (PS0PP) [14040] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14041] Bloody hell, I mean you
Margaret (PS0PP) [14042] Especially in the night!
Brian (PS0S0) [14043] It's all it's all trees.
[14044] ... But the ... they're fine in the summer.
[14045] ... But they're hellish ... cold in the winter!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14046] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14047] Yes ... yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [14048] Erm ... but they are colder than a caravan!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14049] Well , I mean they're only thin walls aren't
Brian (PS0S0) [14050] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14051] they?
Brian (PS0S0) [14052] But cos
Raymond (PS0PN) [14053] Ooh aye
Brian (PS0S0) [14054] they're so long ... erm ... they always seem colder ... than a caravan ... although it didn't
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14055] We've never been in the winter ... that was whe ... I wouldn't know!
Brian (PS0S0) [14056] No, I mean when we went up it was ... it wasn't ... erm ... winter time ... it was ... late summer wasn't it, when we went up?
[14057] ... It wasn't so warm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14058] I love
Margaret (PS0PP) [14059] Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14060] a bit of cold!
Brian (PS0S0) [14061] And ... i ... it felt damp.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14062] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14063] And if you wake up in the morning ... and all the condensation
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14064] It didn't!
[14065] ... Oh the windows were, but it never felt damp!
Brian (PS0S0) [14066] It did to me the first time we stayed.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14067] Just weren't used to it you see.
[14068] ... Well there wouldn't
Brian (PS0S0) [14069] Oh yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14070] be any heating in the bedrooms, I don't suppose, would there be?
[14071] Just a
Brian (PS0S0) [14072] No, it didn't have a radiator in the bedroom [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [14073] The heaters are erm, in the kitchen or the lounge area I suppose.
Brian (PS0S0) [14074] Well it's ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14075] Nice to spend time in the ... in the warm weather though.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14076] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14077] I think I would have ... bought something a bit more substantial at it, I mean, if you've that amount of money, they must have a fair amount of money
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14078] No, they didn't, though, no.
[14079] ... The money was tied up.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14080] Well er, I know what you mean
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14081] It was all tied up.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14082] and ... I understand that because I, I'd ... probably feel like that, I'd sooner invest in bricks and mortar even if were only a little end-terrace house
Brian (PS0S0) [14083] Yep!
[14084] ... Yep. ... [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14085] than a caravan ... or a mobile home on a site.
Brian (PS0S0) [14086] You see they, they've only got so long on this site with that van
Margaret (PS0PP) [14087] Mm.
Brian (PS0S0) [14088] and then they've either got to replace the van
Margaret (PS0PP) [14089] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14090] [yawning] Pardon me [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14091] But erm, on that ... site, he's pretty good the manager there.
Brian (PS0S0) [14092] They've only got six years.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14093] No!
[14094] ... Tha , as long as you ... keep it
Brian (PS0S0) [14095] Oh yes!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14096] maintained
Brian (PS0S0) [14097] Mhm.
[14098] ... Mm.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14099] they'll let you ... leave it on longer.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14100] But
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14101] They
Margaret (PS0PP) [14102] otherwise is it normally just a six year
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14103] Well I thought it
Brian (PS0S0) [14104] Normally.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14105] was ten?
Brian (PS0S0) [14106] No, no!
[14107] It's normally six years ... then you replace your vans on the sites.
[14108] ... That's the way
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14109] Oh it's not six years!
[14110] You'd tell us anything
Margaret (PS0PP) [14111] It doesn't seem very long does it?
[14112] For six
Brian (PS0S0) [14113] Peter told us it was six
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14114] You couldn't spend sixteen thousand and leave it there for six years!
Brian (PS0S0) [14115] Course you can!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14116] And wha ... you'd have to re
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14117] It was longer than six, six years!
Brian (PS0S0) [14118] It wasn't [...]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14119] I think it was ten years!
[14120] Take no
Raymond (PS0PN) [14121] Ah.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14122] notice of him!
Brian (PS0S0) [14123] It was six years Peter mentioned!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14124] You're not a reliable source
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14125] No he didn't!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14126] of information Brian sorry!
[14127] [laugh] ... Get your facts
Brian (PS0S0) [14128] He mentioned six years to me!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14129] Rubbish!
Brian (PS0S0) [14130] He mentioned six years!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14131] Rubbish!
Brian (PS0S0) [14132] He mentioned six years to me!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14133] Rubbish!
Brian (PS0S0) [14134] I'll tell you!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14135] I'll mention six years to you!
[14136] You won't live another six years to find out!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14137] [laughing] Oh oh oh God [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [14138] Kept up with the insurance policy!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14139] [yawning] Ahhh [] ! [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14140] Cooking down to you boy!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14141] Might I go to the toilet mam
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14142] No!
Brian (PS0S0) [14143] No, no!
Brian (PS0S0) [14144] Take that microphone with you so we can hear what your doing!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14145] Will you stop it?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14146] You haven't still got it on have you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14147] No!
[14148] ... Hopeless ... with that on because ... of course, he's been ... wearing a pullover all the time and ... initially he had it clipped on the right hand side of his belts ... and of course , with that switch ... where is it?
[14149] The red switch ... there ... being ... right on the end ... when you depress that the play switch goes down as well.
[14150] But with him having on this side, because he's so blooming awkward ... he's been pressing the play switch ... and of course, so the tapes been turning round, haven't bothered to che , so ... you know, he was sort of saying well ... well play that tape and I'll ... write their names down of the people as they speak, just the first names, you know ... so there's loads of
Brian (PS0S0) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14151] [laughing] loads of blank spaces on these tapes [] !
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14152] You're best just putting it on a table Margaret.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14153] And the rest of the time ... he's had this, sort of on, on the pullover here and of course it's so sensitive that it ... it picks up every ... rustle!
[14154] ... I mean ... he was talking to Norman ... over the fence the other day and it sounds like gunfire
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14155] [laughing] In ... in the microphone you know [] !
[14156] ... Every now and again the ... voice comes in.
[14157] ... I mean, it was a windy day as well and I don't think that helped because the wind was sort of blowing into the mike ... but er ... and when he took it to college there was this noise all the time, he must have had it clipped under here somewhere!
[14158] ... I said, well you know it's gotta be
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14159] I'll put the kettle on for you Brian.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14160] it's gotta be ... outside [laughing] the clothing [] !
[14161] ... But erm
Brian (PS0S0) [14162] Well it's, it's alright, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [14163] Well ... er, I think probably, I mean i so , this lady came on Friday and she's coming on Friday of this week to collect it ... or collect the tapes
Brian (PS0S0) [14164] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14165] and she said ... you know, use as many as you can which ... which we have done ... [laughing] and a lot of blank spaces on them [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [14166] You haven't got ... er
Margaret (PS0PP) [14167] Er
Brian (PS0S0) [14168] Top of the Pops on one of these?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14169] Mm mm, no no, no.
Brian (PS0S0) [14170] No?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14171] Or Radio Two, [...] tried but er ... but erm ... he's got sort of better.
[14172] I mean, today we've been to ... well we went into Henry and Norman's and they were ... having a chat ... and it's better if you're just sitting down like this with a mike just ... you know
Brian (PS0S0) [14173] Oh yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14174] not attached really because it is very sensitive
Brian (PS0S0) [14175] Ooh ooh yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14176] and I mean, unless yo , and they said don't clip it near your throat because ... it would [laughing] ... I felt like clipping it round his throat [] !
[14177] ... It er ... it would interfere with the erm
Brian (PS0S0) [14178] Are you taping about that [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14179] with the reproduction so
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14180] You've gotta go you have!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14181] You're coming very close Brian!
Brian (PS0S0) [14182] She's trying to get rid of me, I'm sure she is!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [14183] You're not are you chuck
Margaret (PS0PP) [14184] She doesn't mean it really!
Brian (PS0S0) [14185] No, course she doesn't mind!
[14186] ... Anyway, how about a car boot sale on
Margaret (PS0PP) [14187] But
Brian (PS0S0) [14188] Sunday?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14189] Ah ah ah!
[14190] ... Oh no!
[14191] You're not to mention car boot sales!
Brian (PS0S0) [14192] No.
[14193] ... That
Margaret (PS0PP) [14194] Really?
Brian (PS0S0) [14195] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14196] Did yo , have you been to any more since
Brian (PS0S0) [14197] No!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14198] No.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14199] I've done three meals tonight ... now, you can do something!
Brian (PS0S0) [14200] Three?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14201] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [14202] What three?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14203] Tea
Margaret (PS0PP) [14204] Teresa's
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14205] supper ... lunch tomorrow.
Brian (PS0S0) [14206] That's not meals!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14207] That's an i ... one on it's own.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14208] Will you do without them then?
[14209] ... Then you'll soon find out if they're meals!
Brian (PS0S0) [14210] I've got yucky butties tomorrow!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14211] Is this a ... have you been told off?
Brian (PS0S0) [14212] No!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14213] No.
Brian (PS0S0) [14214] No, she's always shouting at me.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14215] Ah!
Brian (PS0S0) [14216] Egg sandwiches tomorrow.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14217] I think it was the ... a very nice
Brian (PS0S0) [14218] Oh that's lo , beautiful!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14219] Sandwich filled ... [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [14220] Could of had an egg one of mine.
[14221] ... Don't you like egg?
[14222] ... I like egg sandwiches
Raymond (PS0PN) [14223] No.
Brian (PS0S0) [14224] when the egg is warm!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14225] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14226] Oh how common!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14227] He doesn't get them when they're warm!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14228] No.
Brian (PS0S0) [14229] Unless I make them!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14230] Cos they smell [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14231] They s ... smell don't they?
Brian (PS0S0) [14232] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14233] Put them straight in and er ... get a bendy sandwich.
Brian (PS0S0) [14234] Yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [14235] And then when you take them out tomorrow
Raymond (PS0PN) [14236] Egg and cress used
Brian (PS0S0) [14237] that
Raymond (PS0PN) [14238] to be thing.
Brian (PS0S0) [14239] they're all
Margaret (PS0PP) [14240] [laughing] [...] [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [14241] stuck to your
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [14242] and you have to press them down anyway ... to make them all stick.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14243] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14244] What about a fried egg sandwich they're the ones!
Brian (PS0S0) [14245] Yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14246] Oh!
[14247] ... Ooh how common!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14248] A runny fried egg sandwich!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14249] [laughing] Oh oh oh [] !
Brian (PS0S0) [14250] Snotty ... fried egg sandwich!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14251] Oh Brian!
Brian (PS0S0) [14252] Oh I, I hate it!
[14253] ... I mean if eggs aren't cooked properly for me
Margaret (PS0PP) [14254] It's alright for sticking
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14255] wallpaper down though! [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [14256] [laugh] ... It is awful isn't it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14257] Oh dear!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14258] Will you stop it!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14259] Do you get the Express?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14260] No, we don't!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14261] Why?
[14262] ... What the paper you mean?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14263] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14264] Good grief love!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14265] Oh well, it's a shame then you can't go! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14266] Hey?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14267] Oh well
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [14268] I want a
Margaret (PS0PP) [14269] We do make exceptions
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [14270] I want to go!
[14271] ... What's wrong with the Express!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14272] Well you're not going!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14273] Well it
Margaret (PS0PP) [14274] No, off the back.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14275] You're not!
[14276] ... No, you could ask!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14277] Listen ... this is a bloody good paper this!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14278] Only if it's got a special offer in it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14279] Just look at the headline!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14280] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Brian (PS0S0) [14281] Andrew and Fergie split!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14282] No wonder
Raymond (PS0PN) [14283] Who cares!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14284] they didn't put ... [...] Andrew has finished
Brian (PS0S0) [14285] [...] whilst they've taken the
Raymond (PS0PN) [14286] Who cares!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14287] Yeah.
Brian (PS0S0) [14288] I do!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14289] Good paper that.
[14290] ... I like the crossword and the target.
Brian (PS0S0) [14291] [singing] Ha ha ha ha ha ha [] .
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14292] I can do them before I go out.
Brian (PS0S0) [14293] Would you like a
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Brian (PS0S0) [14294] Margaret would like a [...] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14295] Er ... no I don't think I'll have one.
Brian (PS0S0) [14296] Well you can't fancy a Cointreau cos erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [14297] No, no it's, it's
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14298] Why?
Margaret (PS0PP) [14299] it's alright [...] .
Brian (PS0S0) [14300] Ooh hang on!
[14301] No, wait wait
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14302] The Cointreau gone?
Brian (PS0S0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14303] Er ... Margaret's driving ... so
Brian (PS0S0) [14304] Oh no, you can have a little tinsy winsy
Margaret (PS0PP) [14305] Oh I'll have a little tinsy winsy then.
Brian (PS0S0) [14306] Can I have one Phyl?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14307] I hope you've got that thing switched off!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14308] It's come to the end of the tape now anyway.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14309] Right
Brian (PS0S0) [14310] Phyllis, would you like a little tinsy winsy one?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14311] Yes , why not!
[14312] I'm ... always having a tinsy winsy one.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14313] I thought you said it was in the Express?
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14314] This is the Express magazine, Sunday magazine.
Margaret (PS0PP) [14315] Oh!
[14316] Oh, beg your pardon!
[14317] ... Go on!
[14318] Carry on ... sorry!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14319] As you were!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14320] [laugh] ... Right
Brian (PS0S0) [14321] You said you liked
Margaret (PS0PP) [14322] There are.
Brian (PS0S0) [14323] Mr ... another tinsy winsy one!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14324] [laughing] Behave yourself [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [14325] Antiques day
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14326] Antiques day at ... a the , this is the all the places it's at this Sunday ... and it's er ... , in Chester.
[14327] ... And you
Margaret (PS0PP) [14328] Oh!
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14329] take something ... along there and they will value it free of charge ... providing you've got a copy of the Express!
Margaret (PS0PP) [14330] Oh!
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [14331] Now I see your reasons!
Brian (PS0S0) [14332] [singing] Ner ner ner ner ner!
[14333] ... We've got one [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [14334] That's yours.
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14335] No, we're going!
Brian (PS0S0) [14336] Oh [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Phyllis (PS0RR) [14337] Have you had

68 (Tape 030701)

Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14338] Ten pounds and ten P ... please.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14339] How's that?
[14340] ... It's there somewhere!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14341] Thank you.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14342] Cards for everything now isn't it, hey?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14343] That's it, yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14344] [laugh] ... Cards and buttons!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14345] Press the wrong button and you've had it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14346] Well that's it, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14347] After all, it used a be a tenner [laugh] for [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14348] I'd be no, I'd be no good!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14349] [laughing] [...] run to town [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [14350] I've no patience me.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14351] [laughing] Okay, love bye [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14352] [...] thank you.

69 (Tape 030702)

Raymond (PS0PN) [14353] Thursday's about the worst day isn't it?
Eric (PS0PU) [14354] It i ... well i , I know you've gotta come
Raymond (PS0PN) [14355] Tomorrow is great.
Eric (PS0PU) [14356] Friday but er
Raymond (PS0PN) [14357] Ooh yes, Friday's not!
Eric (PS0PU) [14358] I was going to come Friday but I don't know what, is it bad compared with the other days then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14359] Ooh I think, yes!
Eric (PS0PU) [14360] Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14361] Absolutely!
[14362] ... Yes.
[14363] ... It seems to be a
Eric (PS0PU) [14364] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14365] heavy day!
[14366] ... Never mind!
[14367] Never mind!
[14368] What are you doing today then er ... Eric?
Eric (PS0PU) [14369] Polish those two.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14370] Ooh they're polishing, yes.
Eric (PS0PU) [14371] I sta , I stained them in a hurry on er ... last Friday night so I, I I hope I haven't missed any.
[14372] ... Cos I wanted them to re ... settle for a week before starting ... on them.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14373] Yes can be a mistake hurrying the job can't it?
Eric (PS0PU) [14374] Yeah yes, that's what erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [14375] We've all done it. ... [laugh]

70 (Tape 030703)

Raymond (PS0PN) [14376] Early?
Mary (PS0S1) [14377] Good Morning Ray?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14378] Morning Mary ... how are you?
Mary (PS0S1) [14379] Yes, alright.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14380] Is that you in the flash car pushing my little one out of the way?
Mary (PS0S1) [laugh]
Mary (PS0S1) [...]
Mary (PS0S1) [14381] [...] car park.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14382] Oh it's awful isn't it, on a Thursday?
[14383] It's terrible!
Mary (PS0S1) [14384] It is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Mary (PS0S1) [14385] Ee, you [...] , actually I left my boot open and there were five cars behind me, so he said well if we get our spaces nicked [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14386] That's right.
Mary (PS0S1) [14387] I still got a free one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Mary (PS0S1) [14388] Isn't there a mail box here in the college?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14389] I don't think so.
Mary (PS0S1) [14390] It's on the way [...]
Mary (PS0S1) [14391] Oh!
[14392] ... Should be one!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14393] Would of thought

71 (Tape 030704)

Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14394] Well, are those your chairs?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14395] Yes, ah, these
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14396] Are they?
[14397] ... Ten minutes to go.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14398] It's too high get it back on the chair!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14399] It'll be too high.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14400] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14401] Oh I see, yes yes yes.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14402] Well it's so many things!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14403] It's higher than the one I ... had because erm ... the base is ... obviously I just had the ... springs going across didn't I?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14404] Yeah I, I sa ... I've erm ... cos I'm gonna ... reduce the
Raymond (PS0PN) [14405] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14406] base, you know the ... spring unit what you were talking about.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14407] That's right.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14408] If you can get them up
Raymond (PS0PN) [14409] Yeah that was
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14410] high, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14411] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14412] So I can ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14413] So you done it with springs, that's right
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14414] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [14415] yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14416] just ... you know
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14417] Is it just cos it's ... you're a lady anyhow, I mean she co
Raymond (PS0PN) [14418] I mean a
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14419] probably not big enough for a man.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14420] I wouldn't say ... I wouldn't say anything Gwyneth, to me i , I'd be quite happy!
[14421] ... But then ... Joan is speaking on ... how it should look.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14422] What she said was ... the head was
Raymond (PS0PN) [14423] Oh I see, too high?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14424] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14425] Well it wouldn't be for you would it?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14426] Well not really.
[14427] ... It depends on [...] doesn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14428] Those Ercoles that we got, those ... wing ... they're too ... they're too low for me.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14429] I think they are [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14430] Surprising, yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14431] inches.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14432] No, they're not made for a tall man er, you know my
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14433] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14434] wife's quite
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14435] and your
Raymond (PS0PN) [14436] happy but ... my head's like this and I I ... bit disappointed really
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14437] Well that's the trouble!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14438] I thought that they were ... the wings were gonna come up ... you know, the, the old type that kept the draught off.
[14439] ... Which
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14440] You wouldn't have draughts, you have double glazing! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14441] Well that's the thing you see but er
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14442] If you have double glazing.
[14443] ... Oh dear!
[14444] ... Now I've [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14445] No, but erm
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14446] Well I
Raymond (PS0PN) [14447] That's what I anticipated, but that, yes that's lovely [...] !
[14448] ... Be quite happy
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14449] She said
Raymond (PS0PN) [14450] with that.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14451] she said we didn't ... but she's on her own.
[14452] ... I'm not [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14453] Yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14454] but she's nice isn't she?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14455] She'll be al , yes, that's right, yeah, yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14456] You see these are one size anyhow, cos
Raymond (PS0PN) [14457] The wings, are they?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14458] When it comes in it's hand made which
Raymond (PS0PN) [14459] Yes, I see
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14460] and he made it, you see ... I mean i it cost over [...] twenty years ago told me ... I think those were too small.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14461] Small, yes, they should of been a bit
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14462] Well, I mean she knows that
Raymond (PS0PN) [14463] deeper really, so that the
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14464] knows that well I'm not [...] ... I mean, why should I?
[14465] ... It's different.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14466] Nice!
[14467] ... Yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14468] Not only that erm ... I mean you could
Raymond (PS0PN) [14469] I think she'll be very happy.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14470] Yeah, I think so.
[14471] ... Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14472] I think, you know in
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14473] certain cases you've gotta say to Joe, well you mean that's what the lady wants now ... you know those Ercoles I did?
[14474] ... Well she convinced me to start off ... with foam, you know ... webbing on the foam and I said well
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14475] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14476] she said it's a lot cheaper ... and easier, so I hadn't got the springs at that time
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14477] No.
[14478] ... You re , you really
Raymond (PS0PN) [14479] but then er ... somebody said ... don't do that ... you've gotta think what the value
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14480] That's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14481] of how it's
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14482] Definitely!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14483] supposed to me.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14484] See, I did it
Raymond (PS0PN) [14485] So
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14486] once
Raymond (PS0PN) [14487] in the end I persevered
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14488] when I first came ... when I first came, that was the one thing that I was ... like ... that ... was the fact that ... that I might be pushed ... that way ... whereas ... I only [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14489] Mm.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14490] really nice ... he's thinking that ... I mean that, he couldn't never lift the seat up.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14491] Oh it's gorgeous!
[14492] ... That's why I love the ... sprung hair and the horse hair ideally, you know I love it!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14493] [...] I mean, do you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [14494] Now that'd be better for me
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14495] better for you
Raymond (PS0PN) [14496] but then I ... as I say, you don't cater for every height on the
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14497] Whe
Raymond (PS0PN) [14498] chair do you?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14499] When I went to Noreen's ... if I make that to be used with a cushion or without
Raymond (PS0PN) [14500] Mm.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14501] she can always put the cushion over the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14502] Yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14503] and then take it off the chair [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14504] Well it , ah well, of course the other thing you'd have to do to do that is put a top
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14505] Oh I'll do that in there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14506] Oh that's what you're doing is it?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14507] I've got enough material.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14508] Oh well!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14509] I've got enough material.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14510] So you're gonna give this a top stuffing?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14511] Yes.
[14512] ... No, I'm gonna give that a top cover for this [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14513] Yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14514] That's what I want.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14515] I see, just one, I see yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14516] That's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14517] So all you want is a bit of erm
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14518] [...] on the side ... you know, piece of wadding
Raymond (PS0PN) [14519] Wadding.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14520] I've got the both types.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14521] Well that's great!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14522] I've got the narrow ... and I've got the thick.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14523] That's great!
[14524] So she can please herself can't
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14525] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14526] she?
[14527] And you can make
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14528] I think the
Raymond (PS0PN) [14529] that ... loose.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14530] Yeah, and then
Raymond (PS0PN) [14531] Good!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14532] she, if she wants a cushion she can put it on, and
Raymond (PS0PN) [14533] You're happy!
[14534] Joan's happy!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14535] That's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14536] Everyone's [...] .
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14537] That's a good idea that!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14538] That's, that's got one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14539] You've got in effect, a dual purpose
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14540] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14541] chair ... haven't you?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14542] I if I set it up there
Raymond (PS0PN) [14543] It's too low is it, for you?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14544] Well
Raymond (PS0PN) [14545] I see yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14546] The height from there
Raymond (PS0PN) [14547] Oh yes, I see, yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14548] isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14549] Mm, yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14550] It's that comfortable it's actually going off to sleep here!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14551] You'd better get some work done you know [...] .
[14552] ... I had to get her out of bed this morning!

72 (Tape 030705)

Raymond (PS0PN) [14553] He was erm ... very lugubrious ... moustache, and he looked
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14554] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14555] oh that was the character
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14556] he played, you see.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14557] [...] ... that's how he [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14558] Yeah, but ... he was ... er, opening this thing, this particular day in Buckley so ... big name, you know ... ma , most of them they watch it all the time you see.
[14559] ... [...] for the rats.
[14560] ... Ooh!
[14561] ... Excuse me, you've ... ha , you've tripped your ... and the ... you know, the [...] ... all lad, he said, no it's not worth it for me, so ... I'll be going before you draw it.
[14562] ... [...] ... That is true!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14563] [...] right, right he had never [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14564] That is true!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14565] You give me your [...] , that I'll shall give you this ring so I went ... is that right?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14566] Well I ... I was so shocked!
[14567] ... My God, all that money!
[14568] ... And he's ... [laugh]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14569] Well he ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14570] No.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14571] Nothing [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14572] No, you know,the
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14573] honestly ... when you
Raymond (PS0PN) [14574] I mean most people here just said
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14575] yeah, yeah ... not having it!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14576] It's [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14577] They go.
[14578] Not interested ... with the ... in the [...] ... you have to give ten percent.
[14579] ... Another chap, he's a big name in a church in Buckley he was a ... an old neighbour of ours ... and I never liked [...] cos he used to ... [...] himself ... [...] with a bowler hat on ... they are only back twenty years, you know, bowler hats!
[14580] ... I got in ... you know, on this guy he's ... oh no, no, he said he he'd got one at home, he said I can't afford blooming two!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14581] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14582] And I'd got ... I'd bought one of his!
[14583] And I thought ... oh!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14584] Well that's [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14585] I pinched [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14586] They are bad!
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14587] I said, well even when you ... [...] you know, I do the finishes
Raymond (PS0PN) [14588] Yes.
[14589] ... Yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14590] he come and collects them then ... [...] ... but, but normally [...] and [...] ... and people [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14591] Mm.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14592] But I
Raymond (PS0PN) [14593] Oh yes!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14594] mean ... well why doesn't he ... I mean I don't like Peruvian [...] ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14595] No no.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14596] I mean, I told [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14597] Well I mean, he probably ate a horse or anything [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14598] stopping this slaughtering ... shipping them over to the ... France or anything any more he's burnt their
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14599] blinking
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14600] Well now ... it's the
Raymond (PS0PN) [14601] It's disgusting.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14602] time of year ... I mean ... he ... you just [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14603] Oh I usually give but ... I do get a bit tired of it sometimes!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14604] But now
Raymond (PS0PN) [14605] When they get hold of me ... [laughing] twice in the one day you say [] ... hang on ... I've just given to you [laughing] [...] the bus [] !
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [14606] That's right, when you want to get your bus home
Raymond (PS0PN) [14607] They say, all alright!

73 (Tape 030706)

Raymond (PS0PN) [14608] Are you having a ... a reverse effect?
Teresa (PS0S2) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14609] It's the lady ... what's your name again?
Teresa (PS0S2) [14610] Teresa.
[14611] ... I've only been here three years now!
[14612] Yes, I'm okay. ... [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14613] No, I don't yo , remember
Teresa (PS0S2) [14614] Ah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14615] this ... with our ... like, first year last year ... erm, er she lives somewhere near Paula.
Teresa (PS0S2) [14616] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14617] But she was a ... funny girl!
[14618] ... But erm ... very, very quiet, you know?
[14619] She was good on this!
[14620] But, she dropped out, but anyway ... I sa ... she'll say ... oh you're whistling aren't you, and singing?
[14621] I said, oh I lo I love it, I lo , I said I know it sounds awful ... thought no more ... [laughing] and then Shirley said to me ... when she'd gone [] ... she said, she came up to me one day she said ... I wish to God he'd stop that bloody noise, [laughing] this time [] !
Teresa (PS0S2) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14622] [laughing] So I told my wife, she said [] ... I told you, she said, you drive me mad!
Teresa (PS0S2) [14623] Did she?
[14624] Do you drive her mad too?
[14625] ... Oh well!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14626] No, I like to hear ... a bit of music to go along.
[14627] ... That's all.
Teresa (PS0S2) [14628] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14629] It doesn't sound like music to anyone else [...] !
Teresa (PS0S2) [14630] No wonder she thinks [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [14631] I'm sorry about that [laughing] she said [] !

74 (Tape 030707)

Raymond (PS0PN) [14632] She's got no chance has she?
[14633] She
Tim (PS0RT) [14634] No, especially [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14635] You were stationary?
Tim (PS0RT) [14636] I wasn't ... [...] ... I didn't see the herfs, dum ... Er, the hoofs [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14637] Not your car?
Tim (PS0RT) [14638] Oh no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14639] Oh I thought somebody
Tim (PS0RT) [14640] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [14641] said it was you!
Tim (PS0RT) [14642] I heard er er der ... at er ... erm ... parked ... in the other car park ... I heard the hoofs go bang!
[14643] ... In the ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14644] But he was sitting in the car was he and ... and she came and back into him?
Tim (PS0RT) [14645] But she said ... he wasn't there when she started to reverse.
[14646] ... And that [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14647] The golden rule is if you're reversing you must look behind you!
Tim (PS0RT) [14648] Yeah, but she said she did ... and he wasn't there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14649] Yeah, but a ... it's too bad ee,yo yo ... I don't know
Tim (PS0RT) [14650] I think the
Raymond (PS0PN) [14651] you when you learnt to drive ... when you came to reversing you're told you must look
Tim (PS0RT) [14652] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14653] out of that rear window all the time ... not using your rear view mirrors ... look once as well.
[14654] ... That's what a lot of people do,the , they look once and then turn forward and bang!
[14655] ... It's fatal!
[14656] ... Cos anyone can whizz in behind you!
[14657] ... And she's got no chance if she told the truth!
[14658] ... Of course, the other thing, if she says oh well I er ... didn't know this feller was moving and er
Tim (PS0RT) [14659] Yeah ... they're never going
Raymond (PS0PN) [14660] to thump him, [...] .
[14661] ... Cheeky devil!
[14662] My God I wouldn't have the gall to argue would you?
[14663] You'd say I'm I'm sorry
Tim (PS0RT) [14664] [...] there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14665] oh!
Tim (PS0RT) [14666] He said ... well ... what have, what am I gonna get him poor feller!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14667] Ted is it?
[14668] ... Told her, Ted
Tim (PS0RT) [14669] Yeah , yeah.
[14670] ... He just said, I stood, get in the car [...] ... then as
Raymond (PS0PN) [14671] Yes.
Tim (PS0RT) [14672] he came to the corner stop ... and she reversed straight into him!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14673] And she's arguing?
Tim (PS0RT) [14674] She's arguing!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14675] Er

75 (Tape 030708)

Raymond (PS0PN) [14676] In the butchering department.
Ted (PS0RU) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14677] So how you going, alright Ted?
Ted (PS0RU) [14678] Oh fine!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14679] Apart from the ... drama?
Ted (PS0RU) [14680] Apart from the drama!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14681] Yeah, Chris is er ... what's his name?
[14682] ... What's the ... forgotten his name now!
[14683] Is it
Ted (PS0RU) [14684] [...] ... er, I don't know what his ... his
Raymond (PS0PN) [14685] It isn't Ted is it?
[14686] No!
Ted (PS0RU) [14687] I don't know his name, this is
Raymond (PS0PN) [14688] It's gone now
Ted (PS0RU) [14689] the dentist, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14690] yes.
[14691] ... But
Ted (PS0RU) [14692] It is a ... it's a [...] name ... but I don't know what his first name is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14693] How are you Fiona, alright?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14694] Okay thanks Ray.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14695] So is it badly smashed this car or is it just the bumper?
Ted (PS0RU) [14696] Well it's not, I want the bonnet sprayed [...] ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14697] She's got no chance!
Ted (PS0RU) [14698] No!
[14699] ... None at all!
[14700] ... A a just
Raymond (PS0PN) [...] [...]
Ted (PS0RU) [14701] [...] I just want it [...] bonnet, I want it to go in, bonnet spray job ... and have a look at her face!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14702] Instead of her saying oh and what have I done, I'm sorry!
Ted (PS0RU) [14703] And er she says,sh she said ... you came round the corner too quick, you weren't there when I looked in the mirror!
[14704] ... So she says right ... what's your name?
[14705] So I said ... Lesley, she says to me ... are you in agreement with her?
[14706] I says ... [...] all the way back.
[14707] ... And he, he
Raymond (PS0PN) [14708] And he was stationary was he?
Ted (PS0RU) [14709] he just said ... he was sitting there ... waiting to ma
Raymond (PS0PN) [14710] Well if he [...] she's got no chance!
Ted (PS0RU) [14711] waiting for her to see what's coming!
[14712] ... He was stopped!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14713] She wasn't looking!
Ted (PS0RU) [14714] She said, but, well you were going up to, around that
Raymond (PS0PN) [14715] Oh yeah!
Ted (PS0RU) [14716] corner too fast!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14717] Bet she never looked!
Ted (PS0RU) [14718] Said no way!
[14719] ... She didn't look!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14720] Should never reverse unless you're looking out that back window!
Ted (PS0RU) [14721] Well she said she did and he wasn't there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14722] Couldn't have done!
Ted (PS0RU) [14723] Oh he was!
[14724] ... But but but he was there!

76 (Tape 030709)

Arthur (PS0R3) [14725] What did you do just carried on?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14726] I put the brake on ... and locked them, I shouldn't of done!
[14727] ... So the bumper's torn off the back
Arthur (PS0R3) [14728] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14729] [...] the front wheel i , she'd gone sort of along it an , and
Arthur (PS0R3) [14730] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14731] hit the head ... and, and my front wheel ... it's always the front bumper!
Arthur (PS0R3) [14732] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14733] And the tyre was going down ... then she said ... I didn't do [laughing] that [] !
Arthur (PS0R3) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14734] I said, what!
Arthur (PS0R3) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14735] I didn't get you!
[14736] Only hit the bumper, I thought well what's happened, I said?
[14737] Look at the mark on the wheel!
[14738] ... Oh I, I didn't think I'd done that!
[14739] ... Now, she went off then, she heard my ... address, and my ... you know er
Arthur (PS0R3) [14740] For insurance and that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14741] Cheerio!
[14742] ... I'm stuck in the road!
[14743] ... I had to
Arthur (PS0R3) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14744] change the tyre, it's, you know I see it's the ... my God, I've heard some good-uns in me ... but people are like that you know!
[14745] ... They can wriggle out of something, they
Arthur (PS0R3) [14746] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [14747] you know, they will!
Arthur (PS0R3) [14748] I did the ... er ... there was a ... an ambulance came down the road ... in front of a bus you see, and a chap which was on the cor , side the road and he ... he went like this ... so I stopped ... and ... the ambulance came round ... and turned into this ... building site ... and I ... and ... while we were sitting there ... bang!
[14749] ... Hey!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14750] Oh no! ...
Arthur (PS0R3) [14751] What happened?
[14752] ... I jumped out the car ... young girl had a car ... that ... erm ... back of my car ... and dented the boot a bit and er ... her car was shambles!
[14753] ... Folded up.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14754] Well was it dark or something?
[14755] ... Didn't she
Arthur (PS0R3) [14756] Mm?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14757] was it dark?
Arthur (PS0R3) [14758] No, it was ... perfectly ... broad daylight and ... lunchtime ... [...] .
[14759] ... And a , as she went back I sa

77 (Tape 030710)

Raymond (PS0PN) [14760] Oh dear!
John (PS0PW) [14761] You know?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14762] Thirsty yes?
John (PS0PW) [14763] Lots, lots, lots of [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
John (PS0PW) [14764] What d'you think, [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14765] Mhm.
[14766] ... Lovely colour, but I like it.
[14767] ... Nice and old fashioned, ha?
John (PS0PW) [14768] Mm.

78 (Tape 030711)

Paula (PS0PX) [14769] [...] , she won't move ... away from
Raymond (PS0PN) [14770] What, she's in a ... an ordinary
Paula (PS0PX) [14771] Ordinary house, yeah.
[14772] ... But it's lovely inside ... cos he had it all done out for her ... but she just won't move!
[14773] ... I can understand it, it's her roots isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14774] Suppose he goes
Paula (PS0PX) [14775] You know?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14776] back all the time to see his mum
Paula (PS0PX) [14777] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [14778] does he?
Paula (PS0PX) [14779] yeah, yeah!
[14780] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [14781] Yeah
Paula (PS0PX) [14782] they er ... and Harry Secombe lived down the road from me ... and he was in Cheam, and he was erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [14783] That's right, he did!
Paula (PS0PX) [14784] he was there years and years, and then suddenly
Raymond (PS0PN) [14785] Surrey, isn't it?
Paula (PS0PX) [14786] about three years ago he uprooted and went to Guildford.
[14787] ... He lived right on the main road ... he was very vulnerable!
[14788] But he had a lovely house!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14789] Ha!
Paula (PS0PX) [14790] Yeah!
[14791] ... And John's ... been in there, he's done work for Harry Secombe in his house.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14792] Has he really?
Paula (PS0PX) [14793] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14794] Oh!
Paula (PS0PX) [14795] Hot Chocolate,Cho erm ... Cliff Richard ... erm ... who's the other one?
[14796] ... There's the King singers.
[14797] ... Done a farm house for one of the King singers ... in er ... Oxford.
[14798] ... Yeah!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [14799] How did he
Raymond (PS0PN) [14800] Harry Secombe , I think is in the ... we get the Sunday ... Observer you know, they have the
Paula (PS0PX) [14801] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14802] magazine, there's a
Paula (PS0PX) [14803] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14804] a room of my own I think it was, it
Paula (PS0PX) [14805] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14806] shows you the houses of, you know
Paula (PS0PX) [14807] That's right, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14808] it's usually writers or, in this case
Paula (PS0PX) [14809] But the one he had at Cheam was a lovely house!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14810] Yeah.
Paula (PS0PX) [14811] It was right on the main road ... and he was there years and years and years
Raymond (PS0PN) [14812] Mm.
Paula (PS0PX) [14813] and years!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14814] But they're [...] and the
Paula (PS0PX) [14815] As long as I can remember.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14816] the theatres and
Paula (PS0PX) [14817] in ... no!
[14818] No, no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14819] Well ... if he lived in
Paula (PS0PX) [14820] It was right in the in the road
Raymond (PS0PN) [14821] Wales , that'd be too far wouldn't it, to travel
Paula (PS0PX) [14822] Oh yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14823] you see?
Paula (PS0PX) [14824] So he
Raymond (PS0PN) [14825] So
Paula (PS0PX) [14826] er, well,Guil erm ... he wanted to er, go to Guildford I presume ... because that's his vicinity for doing all his work you see?
[14827] ... Should be able to commute and
Raymond (PS0PN) [14828] Yes
Paula (PS0PX) [14829] that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14830] that's right.
Paula (PS0PX) [14831] But erm ... lovely house he had
Raymond (PS0PN) [14832] But you're
Paula (PS0PX) [14833] in Cheam!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14834] you're, you're from ... Elephant and Castle ... aren't you?
Paula (PS0PX) [14835] John is from Bermondsey.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14836] Where's [...] ?
Paula (PS0PX) [14837] John is from Bermondsey.
[14838] I was born in ... in er, Stockford , Brixton.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14839] Brixton?
Paula (PS0PX) [14840] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14841] Oh, you're right down the ... road from ... Margaret!
Paula (PS0PX) [14842] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14843] With ... Croydon and erm
Paula (PS0PX) [14844] With John ... and John Major ... John Major.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14845] Oh John Major is there!
Paula (PS0PX) [14846] Erm ... well Maggie, she she
Raymond (PS0PN) [14847] Oh Brixton, we
Paula (PS0PX) [14848] I mean she's only moved to erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [14849] Chelsea now, isn't it
Paula (PS0PX) [14850] Er
Raymond (PS0PN) [14851] she?
Paula (PS0PX) [14852] er,ye , no she was at erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [14853] It's on a new estate
Paula (PS0PX) [14854] Oh dear!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14855] wasn't she?
Paula (PS0PX) [14856] Er, and
Raymond (PS0PN) [14857] er
Paula (PS0PX) [14858] they, they wanted to get rid of her, they didn't want her there!
[14859] ... So she got, they got rid of her!
[14860] ... Oh dear!
[14861] ... I've lived there, Herne Hill it was, near Herne Hill.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14862] Mm.
Paula (PS0PX) [14863] But I erm ... I was born in West Norwood,nes ,wo ... West Norwood ... but where John Major took you to last night on his tour
Raymond (PS0PN) [14864] Well I didn't see it anyway so
Paula (PS0PX) [14865] you see I, I lived in ... er ... er which is a turning off .
Raymond (PS0PN) [14866] Oh!
Paula (PS0PX) [14867] Lived there till ... I was about ... fourteen.
[14868] ... Brixton, it was lovely then!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14869] Yeah.
[14870] ... Ooh it's slum
Paula (PS0PX) [14871] But after the war
Raymond (PS0PN) [14872] now!
Paula (PS0PX) [14873] Oh it's terrible!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14874] Well you know Thornton Heath?
[14875] ... It's where Ma
Paula (PS0PX) [14876] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14877] well Margaret's brother still lives there.
Paula (PS0PX) [14878] Well all around there, Streatham all round there.
[14879] ... Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14880] Yeah , Streatham, Thornton Heath.
Paula (PS0PX) [14881] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14882] Erm ... I mean, it's a nightmare now, the traffic!
Paula (PS0PX) [14883] It's the not the traffic, it's the bloody blacks!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14884] Lot of coloured people
Paula (PS0PX) [14885] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14886] there, yes.
[14887] ... Yeah.
Paula (PS0PX) [14888] It it's just a league of nations there and every ... shop ... is ... black people ... in Brixton, but it were a lov , they used to able to get on a ... a two, three, a fifty nine, or a hundred and fifty three ... to Oxford Circus on the bus ... you was there in twenty minutes!
[14889] ... Cos I used to
Raymond (PS0PN) [14890] Ooh yes!
Paula (PS0PX) [14891] take all the gowns up to er ... Marston's [...] , Selfridges ... all the gowns that I used to make ... that we used to make.
[14892] ... If it hadn't of been for the war I'd have been a model!
[14893] ... I mean, don't look at me now!
[14894] But I would of been a model.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14895] Just about to say you've got the figure.
Paula (PS0PX) [14896] when I was training.
[14897] ... Look, I haven't now love!
[14898] ... No, only for except, ex-directory! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Paula (PS0PX) [14899] Ex
Raymond (PS0PN) [14900] Excel ... not [laugh]
Paula (PS0PX) [14901] [laugh] ... If only the
Raymond (PS0PN) [14902] But ah!
Paula (PS0PX) [14903] war [...] ... when the
Raymond (PS0PN) [14904] Yeah.
Paula (PS0PX) [14905] war started in nineteen thirty nine ... it was declared on my birthday ... third of September.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Paula (PS0PX) [14906] Naturally!
[14907] ... I started it all!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Paula (PS0PX) [14908] And er ... the first bombs that came over Britain they must be erm ... our company got it!
[14909] ... First, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [14910] Mm.
Paula (PS0PX) [14911] just bombed to the ground!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14912] Oh yes!
[14913] ... Ooh!
Paula (PS0PX) [14914] And I just couldn't ... so, and anyway, so I joined up.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14915] Yes.
Paula (PS0PX) [14916] So that was my life, I only had about two years in
Raymond (PS0PN) [14917] Yeah.
Paula (PS0PX) [14918] civvy street!
[14919] ... Went to college ... for dressmaking, but there we are!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14920] Life!

79 (Tape 030712)

Paula (PS0PX) [14921] I used to live in Brixton but then ... it ... was so sentimental last night because John Major ... he took us all round there because that's where he comes from you see
Raymond (PS0PN) [14922] I see.
Paula (PS0PX) [14923] a erm ... that was his erm ... constituency.
[14924] ... And erm ... he lived ... erm, a few doors away from us ... but, well then I didn't know that until
Raymond (PS0PN) [14925] No.
Paula (PS0PX) [14926] last night!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14927] I see.
[14928] ... Ah same
Paula (PS0PX) [14929] I didn't know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14930] street!
Paula (PS0PX) [14931] Only
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Paula (PS0PX) [14932] no, a few do ... a few streets
Raymond (PS0PN) [14933] A few streets away.
Paula (PS0PX) [14934] Sorry!
[14935] A few streets away.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14936] Oh I see, yeah!
[14937] Yeah, yeah.
Paula (PS0PX) [14938] In
Raymond (PS0PN) [14939] Oh!
Paula (PS0PX) [14940] Road, he lived in Road which was ... off [...] Lane ... and erm ... what was the other one?
[14941] ... We lived in .
[14942] ... Erm ... they had a lovely big old ... Mrs Bridges houses ... my grandma
Raymond (PS0PN) [14943] Victorian
Paula (PS0PX) [14944] had the house.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14945] houses , yes.
Paula (PS0PX) [14946] And there was a placement ... first floor, second floor, and where they used to be ... starting to live ... beautiful house!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14947] Mm, oh yes!
Paula (PS0PX) [14948] I mean, I didn't think so at the time but ... when I think of it ... you know, and later when I came back after the war we , oh my God!
[14949] ... She died ... my grandfather died and ... blacks got it just sold up!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14950] Mm.
Paula (PS0PX) [14951] I broke the [...] , orh
Raymond (PS0PN) [14952] Yeah, yes, yeah.
Paula (PS0PX) [14953] It was a lovely house!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14954] Well there you are!
Paula (PS0PX) [14955] But ... [...] ... it was lovely!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14956] Everyone wants to get away now don't they?
[14957] I mean ... Margaret couldn't go back it's er
Paula (PS0PX) [14958] I would [...] ... what?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14959] It's too ... the
Paula (PS0PX) [14960] Hey?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14961] hurly-burly there, it's just a terrible place!
Paula (PS0PX) [14962] Where did your mum li , come from?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14963] Er, ooh yes, that's right
Paula (PS0PX) [14964] Your mum, I take it we're talking about?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14965] Croydon.
Paula (PS0PX) [14966] Croydon.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14967] In East, East Croydon.
Paula (PS0PX) [14968] Murder!
[14969] ... It's not so much that [...] , it's getting through!
[14970] ... Used to take a time just to get home at night!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14971] I know!
Paula (PS0PX) [14972] Wandsworth
Raymond (PS0PN) [14973] Oh!
Paula (PS0PX) [14974] just down from Maulden!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14975] It's murder!
Paula (PS0PX) [14976] We we because you went in
Raymond (PS0PN) [14977] And there's the speed!
Paula (PS0PX) [14978] the morning
Raymond (PS0PN) [14979] Well, where John lives like, I forget the name of the road now, you just pass Thornton Heath you know ... turn
Paula (PS0PX) [14980] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [14981] left there
Paula (PS0PX) [14982] it's Streatham all that way.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14983] and this ... this long road goes er ... must be two miles, more than that!
Paula (PS0PX) [14984] Tooting Beck?
Raymond (PS0PN) [14985] No, no, it's it's ... Thornton Heath, that's his address on the, just
Paula (PS0PX) [14986] Yeah, but well, I see yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [14987] this road ... er, a few shops and then you turn left at John's road ... but er, and he ... there's two
Paula (PS0PX) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [14988] private houses, two bungalows that were built ... twenty
Paula (PS0PX) [14989] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14990] years ago in, in
Paula (PS0PX) [14991] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14992] amongst all these old
Paula (PS0PX) [14993] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14994] ones you see.
Paula (PS0PX) [14995] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [14996] But when you come to turn into his drive ... there's the ca , [laughing] you know ... the cars behind you doing sixty odd [] !
[14997] ... Put the brakes
Paula (PS0PX) [14998] I know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [14999] on to warn them and then
Paula (PS0PX) [15000] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15001] zoom!
Paula (PS0PX) [15002] Oh I know, terrible!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15003] And then when you wanna get out of his drive
Paula (PS0PX) [15004] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15005] you've gotta have someone there to ... to back you
Paula (PS0PX) [15006] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15007] out because
Paula (PS0PX) [15008] Get your nose out otherwise they'll have it straight away!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15009] And he said ... John said, oh yo , you can hear the bumps here all the time and the
Paula (PS0PX) [15010] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15011] the buses and that,the these cars are parked on the pavement
Paula (PS0PX) [15012] Yeah but what
Raymond (PS0PN) [15013] bang!
Paula (PS0PX) [15014] you, I bet you if your John ... if if if he said ... that it's mostly blacks!
[15015] ... They all live there!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15016] Well he he is he, he is quite
Paula (PS0PX) [15017] It's a black community.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15018] prejudice, John and er the the
Paula (PS0PX) [15019] Yeah so am I!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15020] there are a lot of erm
Paula (PS0PX) [15021] So am I!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15022] there's one or two.
[15023] But I always say well
Paula (PS0PX) [15024] I can't stand them!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15025] there's plenty of bad whites!
[15026] ... Aren't there?
Paula (PS0PX) [15027] Oh there is ... there is
Raymond (PS0PN) [15028] You know I ... in fact
Paula (PS0PX) [15029] But
Raymond (PS0PN) [15030] the times I've been done down in my life it's been mainly by the white people!
Paula (PS0PX) [15031] Yeah, well John's been done down by the black people!
[15032] Endless
Raymond (PS0PN) [15033] Oh no, John's
Paula (PS0PX) [15034] pakistanis, he can't bear them!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15035] he's had a ... a couple of bad experiences of
Paula (PS0PX) [15036] Two!
[15037] ... Two!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15038] and so I suppose it puts you off, but there you are.
Paula (PS0PX) [15039] Took all our profit they did, the bastards!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15040] Yes.
Paula (PS0PX) [15041] God forgive me for swearing! [laugh]

80 (Tape 030713)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15042] I like him
Mary (PS0S1) [15043] [...] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15044] he used to be in it was power to the people
Mary (PS0S1) [15045] I he's unbelievable!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15046] Is that
Mary (PS0S1) [15047] Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [15048] the one?
Mary (PS0S1) [15049] that's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15050] And and then
Mary (PS0S1) [15051] The power
Raymond (PS0PN) [15052] then he was
Mary (PS0S1) [15053] and er
Raymond (PS0PN) [15054] in that serial about last year.
Mary (PS0S1) [15055] He done Me and My Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15056] About liverpool.
Mary (PS0S1) [15057] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15058] That's him isn't it?
Mary (PS0S1) [15059] Oh er ... B H ... er, B G H!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15060] That's his play he's in now is it?
Mary (PS0S1) [15061] G B H, grievous bodily harm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15062] Oh yes, yes I I read the, yeah
Mary (PS0S1) [15063] Now he's in Me and My Girl now ... with the
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Mary (PS0S1) [15064] er, with his wife, I was ... I didn't think he was married to her.
[15065] ... She's with ... the girl who's in that series but it's like the American one with ... she's got a male housekeeper ... and she ... it's duri , it's ju it's only a comedy in the afternoon.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15066] Oh, I wouldn't of seen that, I don't know!
Mary (PS0S1) [15067] Or evening, early evening
Raymond (PS0PN) [15068] I don't ... I don't ... English actress is she or
Mary (PS0S1) [15069] Yeah, yeah, blonde.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15070] Oh I don't know her.
Mary (PS0S1) [15071] Lovely she is!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15072] Perhaps I know the face but
Mary (PS0S1) [15073] Oh you will
Raymond (PS0PN) [15074] you know.
Mary (PS0S1) [15075] if you see the series, remember
Raymond (PS0PN) [15076] Yes.
Mary (PS0S1) [15077] the series ... Honor Blackman was in it.
[15078] ... It's only just gone off.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15079] Oh that, oh I know yes!
[15080] And she had
Mary (PS0S1) [15081] It's gone.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15082] this lady ... er, in the house, it's American, is that the one?
[15083] No?
[15084] ... With Honour Blackman.
Mary (PS0S1) [15085] Honour Blackman was the mother ... a grandmother
Raymond (PS0PN) [15086] I saw one one episode
Mary (PS0S1) [15087] I think it was her daughter had a [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15088] Saw one.
Mary (PS0S1) [15089] and then there was erm ... the feller who was the housekeeper.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15090] Yes.
[15091] ... I think I saw a bit of one.
Mary (PS0S1) [15092] And it, well it was her that he was married to but ... i he was ... he couldn't get over it, it was such a shock to him!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15093] Mm.
Mary (PS0S1) [15094] You know, it was really you could see
Raymond (PS0PN) [15095] I like him.
Mary (PS0S1) [15096] he was so surprised!
[15097] ... He'd
Raymond (PS0PN) [15098] Wha
Mary (PS0S1) [15099] come a long way that man!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15100] Oh yeah! yes, he's a
Mary (PS0S1) [15101] Cos it was [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15102] a classical actor isn't he, [...] ?
Mary (PS0S1) [15103] Oh he is!
[15104] ... Well they're busy doing King Lear and they went on stage.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15105] That's right, yes.
[15106] That's right!
[15107] ... We've got the tape of him
Mary (PS0S1) [15108] [laughing] He couldn't believe it [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [15109] in King Lear.
Mary (PS0S1) [15110] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15111] With Laurence Olivier.
Mary (PS0S1) [15112] Couldn't believe it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15113] Mm.
[15114] ... Oh yeah!
Mary (PS0S1) [15115] And this feller who's
Raymond (PS0PN) [15116] Well if they've got that grounding
Mary (PS0S1) [15117] was [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15118] they can diversify.
Mary (PS0S1) [15119] Yeah, he's very
Raymond (PS0PN) [15120] They got that
Mary (PS0S1) [15121] he very versatile that man.
[15122] ... I mean, I saw him when he first started as a schoolboy ... in erm ... oh a series with erm ... the army series ... what's it called?
[15123] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15124] Oh, that's right yes!
[15125] ... Yes, you're right
Mary (PS0S1) [15126] oh dear!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15127] he was in that, yeah!
[15128] ... Yes he was.
Mary (PS0S1) [15129] [...] ... curly, a slight curly headed feller used to be in erm ... a series at the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15130] Tony ... Selby.
Mary (PS0S1) [15131] That's right!
[15132] ... Then he said to
Raymond (PS0PN) [15133] Get ... Get Some In.
Mary (PS0S1) [15134] he said I've, that's right!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15135] Get Some In.
Mary (PS0S1) [15136] Then he said I fink
Raymond (PS0PN) [15137] The RAF.
Mary (PS0S1) [15138] I fink ... so he said
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Mary (PS0S1) [15139] how many F's in fink
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Mary (PS0S1) [15140] So he's ... got his nose to him like that and he says ... two ... so Robert Lindsay says to him ... free! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15141] Did you see the other one that was interviewed on Terry Wogan?
Mary (PS0S1) [15142] No I didn't see
Raymond (PS0PN) [15143] Is it Ni ... is it er, Lyndhurst is it?
Mary (PS0S1) [15144] Oh yeah!
[15145] ... Yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15146] First time I've ever heard him
Mary (PS0S1) [15147] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15148] very ... quiet.
Mary (PS0S1) [15149] Now John ... I said to
Raymond (PS0PN) [15150] Very quiet.
Mary (PS0S1) [15151] John, he was in Prince and Pauper in his young days.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15152] And of course he really sounds so ... well spoken.
Mary (PS0S1) [15153] Yeah.
[15154] ... Oh, he's, he's lovely!
[15155] ... And erm ... he was in Prince and Pauper and John could remember him, he was the
Raymond (PS0PN) [15156] Was he?
Mary (PS0S1) [15157] Prince in Prince and the Pauper, as a schoolboy!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15158] What the film you mean?
Mary (PS0S1) [15159] No, no, on the television!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15160] Ah!
[15161] ... I never saw
Mary (PS0S1) [15162] Yeah he was.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15163] that
Mary (PS0S1) [15164] Prince and the Pauper, oh God donkey's years he wouldn't have
Raymond (PS0PN) [15165] Said he was a child then, did he?
[15166] I do , I can't ever remember it.
Mary (PS0S1) [15167] He, he mus be thir
Raymond (PS0PN) [15168] All I can remember Butterflies.
Mary (PS0S1) [15169] He's over thirty now.
[15170] Oh
Raymond (PS0PN) [15171] Yeah.
Mary (PS0S1) [15172] yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15173] He's in Butterflies.
Mary (PS0S1) [15174] No, it's long before that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15175] And he was like that wasn't he?
Mary (PS0S1) [15176] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...] [...]
Mary (PS0S1) [15177] Yeah.
[15178] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15179] But, he's a sa , he's a lovely person!
Mary (PS0S1) [15180] But he isn't thick he's great! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15181] He likes his family you know, he's a
Mary (PS0S1) [15182] Yeah , I think he's lovely!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15183] won't have anything to do with the ... the press, you know he
Mary (PS0S1) [15184] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15185] seems to keep them
Mary (PS0S1) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15186] well away, yeah house.
Mary (PS0S1) [15187] Yeah, that's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15188] I don't blame him!

81 (Tape 030714)

Mary (PS0S1) [15189] Wonderful trees, there's one that ... that used to be something called
Raymond (PS0PN) [15190] Yeah.
Mary (PS0S1) [15191] a Tobby ... and they do this body camping, they have to do it early in the morning or late at night when it's cool ... and it produces this ... liquid which ... verbella it's already fermenting and at this
Raymond (PS0PN) [15192] Oh yeah.
Mary (PS0S1) [15193] rate you have to add ... at first, you can drink it while it's fermenting, it's quite a refreshing drink a bit tart to my taste ... but when it ferments out ... it becomes er ... a liquor called Arak which is their version of [...] .
Arthur (PS0R3) [15194] Oh I've heard of that.
[15195] ... Where do you say, Sri Lanka?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15196] Oh dear!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15197] I've been there.
Mary (PS0S1) [15198] So have I.
[15199] [laugh] ... Just last week.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15200] This is this
Raymond (PS0PN) [15201] Ah
Arthur (PS0R3) [15202] week were you?
Mary (PS0S1) [15203] Yes.
[15204] ... My
Arthur (PS0R3) [15205] Well
Mary (PS0S1) [15206] daughter lives there.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15207] Oh that's nice!
[15208] ... I used to go through once a month.
Mary (PS0S1) [15209] Did you really?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15210] It's not a laxative is it Pat?
Arthur (PS0R3) [laugh]
Mary (PS0S1) [15211] It's like ... a piece of wood from ... Sri Lanka.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15212] Thank you very much Pat.
Mary (PS0S1) [15213] So it should be [...] .
Arthur (PS0R3) [15214] Actually ... this week ... this week I sent a ... a telegram from the Gall Place Hotel to Gwyneth on our wedding anniversary.
Mary (PS0S1) [15215] What, you were there this week?
Arthur (PS0R3) [15216] No, this week ... many years ago.
Mary (PS0S1) [15217] Oh really?
[15218] ... Yes my daughter went, went to Gall Place Hotel swimming pool a lot.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15219] Yes.
Mary (PS0S1) [15220] We went to erm ... we went [...] .
Arthur (PS0R3) [15221] It's very nice ... sitting on the ver ... veranda looking out to sea.
Mary (PS0S1) [15222] Has it all gone?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15223] Thank you Pat.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15224] Under the palm trees, you know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15225] I know we've been to er ... Colombo, near the ... [...] we went there camping.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15226] Did you?
[15227] ... Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15228] It's a beautiful place!
[15229] ... But ... not everyone ... you know ... wants [...] of the old times.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15230] Yeah.
[15231] ... I used to land at Migombo ... property ... er ... Matmalamo originally ... and then they changed it over and we used to land at ... Migombo ... But it was a funny spread!
[15232] It was er ... cut out of palm trees and it got ... palm trees on ... hundred feet high, [...] ... both sides of the runway.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15233] Good grief!
[15234] ... One mistake and er
Arthur (PS0R3) [15235] Yeah, well that's [...] and you used to get some
Raymond (PS0PN) [15236] Coconuts in the cockpit!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15237] you could get some pretty he hefty winds down there you know, the old monsoon used to blow
Raymond (PS0PN) [15238] Oh yes.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15239] I've had some [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15240] Yes that tropical weather you see.

82 (Tape 030715)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15241] Erm ... he would of made a good singer, yes.
[15242] ... Of course, he used to
Mary (PS0S1) [15243] Well ... it makes a nice change
Raymond (PS0PN) [15244] get in these [...] didn't he?
Mary (PS0S1) [15245] in amongst all that rubbish!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15246] Ooh yes!
[15247] ... Oh gosh, absolutely, yeah!
Mary (PS0S1) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15248] I used to love his films, I did!
[15249] ... But erm ... he wa , he was not an opera singer you know, he couldn't erm
Mary (PS0S1) [15250] No, but if I'd said that
Raymond (PS0PN) [15251] couldn't sustain a role for two or three hours.
Mary (PS0S1) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15252] Oh yes!
[15253] ... Yes.
[15254] ... He was only thirty ... thirty
Mary (PS0S1) [15255] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15256] thirty six when he died you know!
Mary (PS0S1) [15257] Was he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15258] Oh oh yeah.
Mary (PS0S1) [15259] [...] like that [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15260] Oh I was reading about the [...] ... twenty three stone!
[15261] ... Just killed himself with over indulgence you know, in ... drink an an er ... eating.
Mary (PS0S1) [15262] And meals
Raymond (PS0PN) [15263] A shame isn't it?
Mary (PS0S1) [15264] Most probably if he hadn't gone to Hollywood that would never have happened.

83 (Tape 030716)

Arthur (PS0R3) [15265] Well ... it was er ... it was transparent in the water ... you could see the fish in the water and ... and er, you could see the turtles and the
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15266] And the otters.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15267] otters and, and
Raymond (PS0PN) [15268] Beautiful!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15269] everything.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15270] ah dear!
[15271] ... But, she was as nervous as a kitten because we were, we were in a ... one of these Canadian type er
Raymond (PS0PN) [15272] Oh the dugout, sort of canoe, yes, the curved and
Arthur (PS0R3) [15273] type canoe,India , Indian canoe type thing you see ... and the blo ... but he was a ... an old mariner, he was seventy seven and he volunteered to take us on the river.
[15274] ... And
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15275] He said that.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15276] he said, he was, very nice chap!
[15277] ... He was like Bing Crosby ... you know [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15278] Oh blue eyes!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15279] to hear and look at him.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15280] Oh!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15281] And he said ... erm ... now I don't want to alarm you he said but er, have you any been on a canoe before and er ... [laughing] I said no [] !
[15282] ... And er
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15283] I'll cross my fingers!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15284] Yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Arthur (PS0R3) [15285] And he said er ... no, he said er ... I hope you can swim er, he said because they're rather unstable ... and er ... and he said, now erm ... if we er bump into anything like erm a ... he he hesitated in his speech and he said ... like a log or a er er or alligator ... he said ... freeze!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15286] Freeze!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15287] Don't move!
[15288] He said ... I'll make the decisions!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Arthur (PS0R3) [laugh]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15289] And still I've made it through!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15290] And she's sitting there petrified!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15291] And do you know, you've heard it
Raymond (PS0PN) [15292] Don't frighten the alligators!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15293] Yeah
Arthur (PS0R3) [15294] Yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15295] don't fri ... you know when you sit on your bottom ... in a canoe and that, you've not probably been in a canoe [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15296] I have actually been in a
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15297] but you can see all movement
Raymond (PS0PN) [15298] Oh I know it's a funny thing!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15299] and and but, you know like they say you [laughing] [...] []
Arthur (PS0R3) [15300] You know at the slightest wobble
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15301] If, you feel as though it's gonna go sideways or something!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15302] Yeah, yeah.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15303] But he said ... i , don't ... ju freeze because he said, otherwise we'll all be the bath!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Arthur (PS0R3) [laugh]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15304] And the, for the first half
Raymond (PS0PN) [15305] [laughing] With the, with alligators [] !
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15306] for the first half hour I sat ... didn't dare put my
Arthur (PS0R3) [15307] [...] bit difficult
Raymond (PS0PN) [15308] [...] on.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15309] to take photographs, I got my movie cam , my video camera you see and I ... I didn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [15310] Oh yeah.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15311] dare move!
[15312] And I was
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15313] We were like this.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15314] I was just doing like this you see, I didn't dare swing round.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15315] Just a scratch [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15316] What for ... fo for what?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15317] It it's for [...] ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15318] Oh [...]
Arthur (PS0R3) [15319] Sa that's safe way of [...] ... [...] .
[15320] ... That's
Raymond (PS0PN) [15321] So the er wha beyond the John er

84 (Tape 030717)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15322] Oh [laughing] I see [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [15323] He keeps filming us!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15324] You get a surprise.
[15325] ... [laughing] Where's it gone [] ?
Margaret (PS0PP) [15326] It's very good he ... the video's just as safe as if ... children [...] ... that needs character ... what do you think?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15327] Well I don't know whether you can ... sort of, tape in advance ... can you?
[15328] ... We, we can't, no
Margaret (PS0PP) [15329] I don't understand it!
[15330] I don't mess with the thing.
[15331] ... I just let
Raymond (PS0PN) [15332] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15333] them do it. [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15334] Son told us how to do it once, so he got the book out and he said, oh, then he gave up in the end!
[15335] ... Because er ... we tried it and we got the wrong ruddy film!
Margaret (PS0PP) [15336] Ya.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15337] You know yo , it's all these buttons isn't it, you've gotta ... you've really got to be into it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15338] [laughing] You know [] ... you know my three year old grandson ... he knows [laughing] how to do it [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15339] Oh I know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [15340] his nana [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [15341] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15342] Try and [...] look nana, that one ... and that
Raymond (PS0PN) [15343] Experts
Margaret (PS0PP) [15344] one.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15345] aren't they kids, though!
[15346] ... Brought up quick you see.
[15347] ... I don't envy them though, I don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [15348] Oh no I don't.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15349] I'm old fashioned and that's it!
[15350] I don't know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15351] No.
[15352] ... Too old [laughing] to change aren't we [] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15353] But i ... I must say I like ... it is ... a marvellous thing to be able to do that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [15354] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15355] Just sit down and watch a ruddy tape you know and
Margaret (PS0PP) [15356] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15357] pre , put it in and
Margaret (PS0PP) [15358] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15359] I mean to say er ... used to see people years ago and they got these cine cameras and ... and all, we could never have one of those you know and ... a record of the kids when they were young.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15360] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15361] And I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [15362] Well look at me [...] stupid
Raymond (PS0PN) [15363] You only got a few minutes didn't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [15364] this stupid thing is is ... going and taping rugby matches [laughing] all the time [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [15365] Oh yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [15366] But, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15367] Well of course he would!
Margaret (PS0PP) [15368] you kno
Raymond (PS0PN) [15369] That's what he wants to see.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15370] I know.
[15371] ... Yes, but he doesn't stop and think ... you know, what else can we do? ... [...] to get this ... tape in.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15372] That's it.
[15373] ... Kids!
[15374] What can you do? ... [whistling]

85 (Tape 030718)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15375] She has been in the business for about a year ... yeah.
[15376] ... Dressmaking mainly, but ... you know, anything at all, yeah, she's been at it that long!
[15377] ... But, but people when people when they come to your house and want things done they're tight you know!
John (PS0PW) [15378] Oh yeah, they're not [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15379] Terrible!
John (PS0PW) [15380] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15381] They say it won't take you long!
[15382] ... A ... a skirt, how much is a skirt?
[15383] Well ... five pounds an ... well I only ee, you know
John (PS0PW) [15384] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15385] I could do it myself.
John (PS0PW) [15386] Yep. [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15387] And I sa and I said well why ... why don't you?
John (PS0PW) [15388] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15389] She's given up now, she just does it for friends now the you
John (PS0PW) [15390] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15391] know, that, who pay but ... obviously
John (PS0PW) [15392] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15393] they're getting it done cheaply.
[15394] ... But ... some people are grateful.
John (PS0PW) [15395] Well Beryl has a cousin who's er ... tremendous degree of spasticity in the legs ... even worse than
Raymond (PS0PN) [15396] God bless her!
John (PS0PW) [15397] poor er ... Brian ... you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [15398] Yeah.
John (PS0PW) [15399] she can only go round with two sticks ... and she gets er ... while Beryl's here in house ... but erm ... the brave little kid she ... er ... did a degree ... in erm ... art ... and ... [...] costume design, you know, dress design ... with a [...] ... erm ... and she's set up a good business at home.
[15400] ... And ... well sh she's ... built up a goo ... er steady little clientele.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15401] Clientele , yeah.
John (PS0PW) [15402] She does a lot of er ... [...] work ... erm ... but she's doing work ... there's a place in Chester, Harrison [...] ... you know, Godford Lane
Raymond (PS0PN) [15403] Oh yes, I've ... Yes.
[15404] ... Yes.
[15405] I know, yeah, yeah ... oh my wife knows
John (PS0PW) [15406] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15407] it quite well anyway.
John (PS0PW) [15408] Well they ... they get her to do [...] ... or even ... erm ... they got one cutting ... girl who came in ... er ... got a ... photograph from Vogue ... erm ... Michael Caine's daughter
Raymond (PS0PN) [15409] Oh!
John (PS0PW) [15410] and her wedding dress ... and she wanted a dress like that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15411] Oh yes!
John (PS0PW) [15412] Sent ... they ... send it to Elizabeth.
[15413] ... Er ... so as it happened this girl had got the material ... erm ... a wild silk cream ... and er ... Elizabeth made up this dress for her ... of course er ... Michael Caine's daughter i ... is quite a busty girl, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [15414] Oh I see, yeah.
John (PS0PW) [15415] and this bride wasn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
John (PS0PW) [15416] so it didn't qui , look quite the same, you know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15417] Had to make
John (PS0PW) [15418] So
Raymond (PS0PN) [15419] a few drastic alterations!
John (PS0PW) [15420] So when it was made
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
John (PS0PW) [15421] she decided she didn't like it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15422] Ooh!
John (PS0PW) [15423] Erm ... [laughing] so [] ... Elizabeth got on to Aristocrats ... so what, what happened?
[15424] ... Oh do don't worry!
[15425] ... Don't worry at all we've contracted with you to do this dress
Raymond (PS0PN) [15426] Oh, that's right.
John (PS0PW) [15427] we'll just take it into stock.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15428] Yeah.
[15429] ... Yeah.
John (PS0PW) [15430] No problem whatsoever!
[15431] ... Erm ... but she's got er ... [...] girls ... this one is, lady's six foot three!
[15432] ... And she found it terribly difficult to get dresses!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15433] Absolutely!
John (PS0PW) [15434] Erm ... oh her husband
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
John (PS0PW) [15435] now is absolutely delighted with all she does!
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
John (PS0PW) [15436] She's goes along to [...] ... some illustration out of book ... and er
Raymond (PS0PN) [15437] She does ... design or something.
John (PS0PW) [15438] something she's seen in a magazine or
Raymond (PS0PN) [15439] Oh I see, yeah.
[15440] Oh she
John (PS0PW) [15441] She
Raymond (PS0PN) [15442] can design as well?
John (PS0PW) [15443] No.
[15444] ... Choose the design
Raymond (PS0PN) [15445] Ah that's
John (PS0PW) [15446] on a dress.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15447] that is very talented, yes!
John (PS0PW) [15448] And ... and she's got a couple of lady solicitors who come to her!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15449] Yes, I think, and also it depends on the area that you live, do you think John?
John (PS0PW) [15450] I don't know.
[15451] ... Oh she's [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15452] You know perhaps you're in
John (PS0PW) [15453] Erm ... the older part of Whitby ... and ... [...] , just a little ... semi ... erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15454] Mm.
John (PS0PW) [15455] you know, she, she lived in .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15456] I think if she went in to live in the back woods, you know, way beyond
John (PS0PW) [15457] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15458] sort of er
John (PS0PW) [15459] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15460] as I say, you get good people that are ... quite willing to pay, but others who
John (PS0PW) [15461] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15462] are ... they do
John (PS0PW) [15463] Oh I know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15464] they want it done cheaply because you're working at home!
John (PS0PW) [15465] Yeah, they think you're a ... [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15466] The attitude , which is wrong
John (PS0PW) [15467] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15468] really!
[15469] You know I sa , told Margaret, I said look don't er ... I'm very sorry but we can't do it!
John (PS0PW) [15470] I've known people also raise bedding plants at home ... erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15471] Yeah.
John (PS0PW) [15472] but er ... it's just the same, the ... they
Raymond (PS0PN) [15473] Yes.
John (PS0PW) [15474] go to a nursery ... and pay six or seven times as much ... and
Raymond (PS0PN) [15475] They want it for nothing or or
John (PS0PW) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15476] next to nothing!
John (PS0PW) [15477] Yeah, I know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15478] They don't want it half price
John (PS0PW) [15479] They don't realise!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15480] they want it for a
John (PS0PW) [15481] You still got the
Raymond (PS0PN) [15482] fifth!
John (PS0PW) [15483] same ... overheads
Raymond (PS0PN) [15484] Heating.
John (PS0PW) [15485] heating costs and
Raymond (PS0PN) [15486] [...] , yes.
John (PS0PW) [15487] compost and ... all of that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15488] And the work is ... tremendous
John (PS0PW) [15489] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15490] doing that sort of thing, I'd, something I would never take but there you are that's people for you!
John (PS0PW) [15491] What?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15492] Like this game to some extent isn't it?
[15493] The furniture they want it ... somebody'll want it done for no

86 (Tape 030719)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15494] I've broken many the dowel or tenon or something like that!
John (PS0PW) [15495] Oh!
[15496] ... In just
Raymond (PS0PN) [15497] Erm
John (PS0PW) [15498] watering?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15499] Well, I mean, say it's like that where you just ... polishing with a cloth or something
John (PS0PW) [15500] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15501] but he has a ... an actual syringe [...] er, mortaring tenon you know.
John (PS0PW) [15502] Ya.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15503] Say that was a tenon there ... the underneath part of the chair you're not gonna ... see ... drills a hole in there
John (PS0PW) [15504] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15505] and then jegs ... and after a few ... five minutes
John (PS0PW) [15506] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15507] doesn't get ... you know, it breaks down the glue inside.
John (PS0PW) [15508] [...] [...] and that hasn't broke. [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15509] No, no, you've been lucky there but
John (PS0PW) [15510] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15511] it's a good tip that you know, isn't it?
[15512] ... I've never heard of it before.
John (PS0PW) [15513] Michael?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15514] Michael the erm ... the up , the furniture restorer that's erm ... he's coming here.
John (PS0PW) [15515] He's not here.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15516] Three hours every Tuesdays for the ... second years
John (PS0PW) [15517] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15518] and giving us tuition on ... real antique furniture, he doesn't do anything in his shop ... erm ... after eighteen forty ... or it's all more or less Georgian, very Georgian actually.
John (PS0PW) [15519] And whereabouts is he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15520] In er ... Heswell ... I, I've never been there, he's got a workshop ... in Heswell
John (PS0PW) [15521] What and you go on a ... you go on a course there?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15522] No he co , he comes here.
John (PS0PW) [15523] Oh does he?
[15524] When is
Raymond (PS0PN) [15525] He
John (PS0PW) [15526] that?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15527] wants
John (PS0PW) [15528] He comes here on Tuesday?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15529] On on a Tuesday, he wants to go and teach you see, I think he's got arthritis in his ... one leg.
John (PS0PW) [15530] Is he er ... the man with a beard?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15531] Yes.
John (PS0PW) [15532] Mike, he's called?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15533] Michael .
John (PS0PW) [15534] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15535] He's written a book.
[15536] We've all got the book.
John (PS0PW) [15537] Oh yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15538] Yes.
[15539] ... He's a lovely chap
John (PS0PW) [15540] Ahhh
Raymond (PS0PN) [15541] honestly!
[15542] ... Very, very interesting!
John (PS0PW) [15543] Yeah.
[15544] ... And and yo
Raymond (PS0PN) [15545] I
John (PS0PW) [15546] you do it ... his course here on erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15547] Well he he sort of came and asked us, you know ... do you mind
John (PS0PW) [15548] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15549] he he's gotta do this ... thirty hours I think it is ... to
John (PS0PW) [15550] I see!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15551] to get this
John (PS0PW) [15552] Teaching?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15553] other exam.
John (PS0PW) [15554] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15555] As I say, they ... he qualifies you see.
John (PS0PW) [15556] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15557] Er ... so it's mainly erm ... what I've just been telling you about ... cleaning ... all
John (PS0PW) [15558] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15559] screws, how to identify furniture and ... mainly ol ... and his methods are totally different to ... what we've learnt
John (PS0PW) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15560] here, especially with polishing
John (PS0PW) [15561] Mm, mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15562] and that.
John (PS0PW) [15563] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15564] Uses hardly any polish ... it's nearly all waxing though.
John (PS0PW) [15565] Is it?
[15566] ... Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15567] Stripping and everything's a different technique.
John (PS0PW) [15568] Oh very good!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15569] But he
John (PS0PW) [15570] And that's part of your three days is it?
[15571] ... You do three don't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15572] Yeah, ah that's right, yeah.
[15573] ... Well er, the Tuesday is supposed to be ... furniture restoration, that's what it's been
John (PS0PW) [15574] And yo , that's [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15575] but then he started doi you know, a few weeks ago it wa , well it'll be the fourth week I should think!
John (PS0PW) [15576] Mm.
[15577] ... And
Raymond (PS0PN) [15578] Fourth.
John (PS0PW) [15579] who do you do the er ... [...] for?
[15580] ... Furniture restoration.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15581] Well that's the ... the three day, you know, George i he's [...]
John (PS0PW) [15582] George, Bill and
Raymond (PS0PN) [15583] No, Bill doesn't go in!
[15584] No, [...]
John (PS0PW) [15585] He doesn't [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15586] This is just ... woodwork.
John (PS0PW) [15587] Oh I see.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15588] Ah well we do a bit of copying.
John (PS0PW) [15589] Now that's, is is that in this class here?
[15590] In this room?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15591] The first years come in here ... for upholstery.
John (PS0PW) [15592] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15593] We go in there to the ... woodwork
John (PS0PW) [15594] And that's on Tuesday mornings?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15595] Tuesdays.
[15596] Yeah, yeah
John (PS0PW) [15597] Oh I see!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15598] It's a fiver each that is.
[15599] ... Some
John (PS0PW) [15600] I wouldn't mind doing that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15601] Well, I I liked it, you know it's ... it's so interesting and er ... he is very good!
[15602] ... Trouble is, some of them have made the mistake I think, of saying well ... it's not good for us because we don't do really old furniture you know.
[15603] ... Nobody's gonna come to us for the lease of erm ... William the fourth or anything like this!
John (PS0PW) [15604] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15605] Or William and Mary and say er ... can you do, they're gonna go to an expert like him.
John (PS0PW) [15606] But then ... if they got tips
Raymond (PS0PN) [15607] You never know, you might have to do a ... top of an
John (PS0PW) [15608] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15609] old, really old
John (PS0PW) [15610] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15611] table.
[15612] ... And not just go on and strip the [...]
John (PS0PW) [15613] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15614] which
John (PS0PW) [15615] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15616] he's still really ... tha that's a
John (PS0PW) [15617] Yeah, you ca
Raymond (PS0PN) [15618] [...] of him that is.
John (PS0PW) [15619] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15620] Don't, never use that stuff!
[15621] ... Makes his own wax!
John (PS0PW) [15622] Does he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15623] Showing us how to
John (PS0PW) [15624] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15625] we're gonna do some ... between us.
John (PS0PW) [15626] So if he's got to ... he's ga got to re re-buy something then he just clips it down with sandpaper does he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15627] Oh no!
[15628] ... No, just ... cli , and yesterday he'd got this marvellous cleaner he uses.
John (PS0PW) [15629] Just wipes it.
[15630] ... It just cleans.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15631] Cleaner ... and then er ... wire wool at ... at the last
John (PS0PW) [15632] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15633] resort
John (PS0PW) [15634] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15635] but ... oh he he, he does do stripping obviously but the
John (PS0PW) [15636] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15637] the stuff he uses is ve isn't as ... caustic as the stuff we
John (PS0PW) [15638] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15639] use.
John (PS0PW) [15640] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15641] It just takes the surface off.
John (PS0PW) [15642] Yeah.
[15643] ... Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15644] And then th , the object in the, is to build up a pattern
John (PS0PW) [15645] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15646] there you see, so it still looks old.
[15647] ... And he
John (PS0PW) [15648] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15649] does a lot of patching, somebody's got a ... cigarette hole you, you've gotta match that up.
John (PS0PW) [15650] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15651] Very interesting!
John (PS0PW) [15652] Yeah.
[15653] ... But it would
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
John (PS0PW) [15654] pricey ... If I wanted to come you see, I'd have to pay again!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15655] Oh well , yes, yeah, oh well I wouldn't be coming.
John (PS0PW) [15656] I'd have , I'd have to pay for it.
[15657] ... I have to
Raymond (PS0PN) [15658] That's right.
John (PS0PW) [15659] pay for everything I do, you know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15660] It's part of my second year, so ... yeah I know.
John (PS0PW) [15661] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15662] So I'll be in the same boat as you next year.
John (PS0PW) [15663] Will you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15664] Well yeah, I've had a ... come for one day, pay for a day and hope I can ... sneak in on the two day.
[15665] That's what
John (PS0PW) [15666] Ya.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15667] you can do.
John (PS0PW) [15668] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [15669] Yeah well we could
Raymond (PS0PN) [15670] I mean, Joan said well ma , you know make the numbers up, once you're here ... come in on the second.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [15671] Well we can still be away for about four lessons at four thirty so er
Raymond (PS0PN) [15672] Well that makes up
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [15673] and he'd been away for three months so that you know I mean ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15674] Well you see Eric was offered two months.
[15675] ... Little Eric, the one that's always
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [15676] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15677] in there.
[15678] ... So the ... let him come in the day, two days ... he was off two months, Christmas time, [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [15679] How is he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15680] with his bad back.
[15681] ... Tha , well he went to Spain for a month to sort of recuperate.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [15682] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15683] And [...] and come in on the, he came on the Tuesday and he's been three days a couple of weeks so ... [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [15684] Eric will be pleased at that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15685] Between friends I think [...]
John (PS0PW) [15686] I haven't got a bad back, she had me

87 (Tape 030720)

Mary (PS0S1) [15687] Wings on ... you would wouldn't you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15688] Ooh yes!
Mary (PS0S1) [15689] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15690] The wings go on last don't
Mary (PS0S1) [15691] Last
Raymond (PS0PN) [15692] they?
Mary (PS0S1) [15693] yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15694] Yeah, yeah.
Pat (PS0RV) [15695] Ray, can I ask you [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15696] Sorry Pat, what?
Pat (PS0RV) [15697] Have you got glue from the
Raymond (PS0PN) [15698] No.
[15699] ... Yes.
[15700] ... Kept this space
Pat (PS0RV) [15701] There?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15702] specially for you Pat.
Pat (PS0RV) [15703] Oh that's very sweet!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15704] With you in mind.
[15705] ... Well erm ... Mary's
Pat (PS0RV) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15706] here ... so she can budge up a bit.
Mary (PS0S1) [15707] Yes.
Pat (PS0RV) [15708] A gem you are!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15709] There's usually another guy here today so he hasn't showed up, so there you are so ... we got bags of room.

88 (Tape 030721)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15710] From what I've heard she'd got no chance that lady!
Tony (PS0RX) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15711] Well yes.
[15712] ... As long as you're alright.
Tony (PS0RX) [15713] Bit shocked really I suppose.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15714] Yes, well it is!

89 (Tape 030722)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15715] Yo you sort of er ... if you ran into someone you know, you do something silly it's it's it's ... it's automatic to say oh I'm sorry [...] we will ... you know how much
Arthur (PS0R3) [15716] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15717] [...] ?
Arthur (PS0R3) [15718] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15719] But today, especially these youngsters the attitude is I'm
Arthur (PS0R3) [15720] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15721] not saying anything!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15722] Course it is, you say anything
Raymond (PS0PN) [15723] Now it's sticking out a mile, but the time home that make up another ruddy story to give
Arthur (PS0R3) [15724] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15725] to their insurance I mean
Arthur (PS0R3) [15726] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15727] it's awful.
[15728] ... But
Arthur (PS0R3) [15729] Oh she blamed me, she said I was coming round the corner ... at high speed!
[15730] ... And I, we weren't anywhere near the corner!
[15731] ... We were this end ... sorry, we were this end, you know ... [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15732] Yo you were stationery were you?
Arthur (PS0R3) [15733] I was stationery.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15734] She got no chance!
Arthur (PS0R3) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15735] You ran into a [...] , I mean ... if she's reversing
Arthur (PS0R3) [15736] She reversed [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15737] She's not looking, she couldn't of been looking!
[15738] She's she's looked then she's taken her eyes off the back.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15739] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15740] Must of!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15741] Well, she probably didn't look at all!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15742] Could be.
[15743] ... I mean I I
Arthur (PS0R3) [15744] I said, I hooted her as well.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15745] Mm.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15746] And er
Raymond (PS0PN) [15747] That's fatal!
[15748] But I I was always taught, probably like yourself that you must look through that, turn round and look through that rear
Arthur (PS0R3) [15749] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15750] mirror.
Arthur (PS0R3) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15751] Cos if you take your eye off for a second, bang somebody's there!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15752] Oh yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15753] So I don't think she's got much hope now you know.
[15754] ... Have you got
Arthur (PS0R3) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15755] witnesses anyway?
Arthur (PS0R3) [15756] [laughing] Yeah [] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15757] Oh!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15758] I hope sa er ... [...] , see of course it's all question of getting it sorted out as quickly as you can.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15759] There's the insurances and the tale that she tells them but tha , I think they'll have that weighed up you know.
[15760] Ha!
Arthur (PS0R3) [15761] Well I hope so.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15762] Cos I had an awful experience about ... ooh, four years ago, I had this old Moggy ... Morris Minor ... coming along very slowly ... north of Hull it was ... and this chap and his ... about finished work you know, so I ... going past this ... cri , there's a cricket match going on ... and he was looking like, I could see ... and his girlfriend!
[15763] ... And the car just went like this ... into the middle of the road slowly ... towards me ... I swerved ... onto the ... grass
Arthur (PS0R3) [15764] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15765] verge ... and he caught my back bumper an an ripped it off you see!
[15766] ... Got out the car, said good God lad what were you doing?
[15767] And he never said anything and he said ... something like, I'm not saying anything.
[15768] ... I said ... you ran into me, look at the position of the cars!
[15769] ... Ooh no, he said we'll swop insurances that's all he'd say!
[15770] ... It was his dad's car.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15771] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15772] His dad was on holiday.
[15773] ... Anyway, I, I should of got the police there and then and had
Arthur (PS0R3) [15774] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15775] him breathalysed although it wasn't
Arthur (PS0R3) [15776] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15777] drink or anything but
Arthur (PS0R3) [15778] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15779] police said to me afterwards you should of ... we can't fight your claim ... you
Arthur (PS0R3) [15780] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15781] should of had him there and then and measured up the road a bit
Arthur (PS0R3) [15782] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15783] we could see how
Arthur (PS0R3) [15784] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15785] you're too late ... to have ended up knock for knock.
[15786] ... It's as though
Arthur (PS0R3) [15787] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15788] it were partially my blame you know.
[15789] ... They paid half ... of erm
Arthur (PS0R3) [15790] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15791] totally his fault you know!
[15792] ... But these youngsters today they could kill
Arthur (PS0R3) [15793] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15794] someone they wouldn't er
Arthur (PS0R3) [15795] Yep.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15796] they wouldn't be compassionate about it you know.
Arthur (PS0R3) [15797] Well I proved I was stationery this morning there's no way she's right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15798] Oh no, I think you got a pretty good case there.
[15799] ... It's nasty though isn't it?
[15800] It leaves a nasty taste in your mouth.

90 (Tape 030723)

Raymond (PS0PN) [15801] Where are you, North Wales, Chester?
Alice (PS0RY) [15802] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15803] I thought, ooh ... [...] by that
Alice (PS0RY) [15804] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15805] you know.
[15806] ... Anyway, one lady ... came ... came to the house whilst I was here ... and she said oh ... it's not quite what I want.
[15807] ... [...] last week ... getting married.
Alice (PS0RY) [15808] Just a [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15809] Put a deposit down will you, oh can't
Alice (PS0RY) [15810] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15811] pick it up till the weekend.
Alice (PS0RY) [15812] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15813] But I'd come down to er, one two five you see in the local paper.
Alice (PS0RY) [15814] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15815] So ... anyway, it's gone.
[15816] As I say, it didn't cost
Alice (PS0RY) [15817] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15818] me much.
[15819] ... Didn't cost me
Alice (PS0RY) [15820] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15821] anything to ... to buy that one
Alice (PS0RY) [15822] Oh well.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15823] so er ... but it's stuck there for er weeks on end, you know
Alice (PS0RY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15824] we've been finished it
Alice (PS0RY) [15825] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15826] bit of a [...] .
Alice (PS0RY) [15827] And the [...] ?
[15828] Oh yeah,tha , that was Lorraine ... you know Lorraine that was here.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15829] Yeah, but then ... I suppose
Alice (PS0RY) [15830] But then she's [...] you know, otherwise hers [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15831] Where does sh ... where's her shop?
Alice (PS0RY) [15832] [...] in Wallasey
Raymond (PS0PN) [15833] Oh, in Wallasey again?
Alice (PS0RY) [15834] Ah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15835] I see, yeah.
[15836] Oh well I could go there and have a look, anyway one day
Alice (PS0RY) [15837] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15838] because ... is she the only one there is she or
Alice (PS0RY) [15839] She might be interested I don't
Raymond (PS0PN) [15840] Yeah.
Alice (PS0RY) [15841] I don't know whether the other girls go round with her but erm ... what's the other girls name ... that was here?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15842] Wah I didn't know that very well.
[15843] I knew
Alice (PS0RY) [15844] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15845] Lorraine because I, you know
Alice (PS0RY) [15846] She ru ... she, she does her own work she starts being [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15847] Oh yes, there was another girl, yeah.
[15848] ... Yes.
Alice (PS0RY) [15849] A friend of my daughter's went in the other week and bought a little erm ... table off her ... erm ... and, you know, it's quite [...] , I mean it's all, that's it.
[15850] ... Wanted some new furniture.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15851] Trouble is she only wants to buy it off you cheaply you see, for
Alice (PS0RY) [15852] If you can, it's how she does it, she might erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15853] Sometimes they sell things for you don't they?
[15854] And charge you [...] for it.
Alice (PS0RY) [15855] That's what I was gonna say, I she liked that new erm ... [...] in there.
[15856] I know
Raymond (PS0PN) [15857] Yeah.
Alice (PS0RY) [15858] she did do that, what they get for it [...] ... erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15859] Usually they're pushed for space as well, you see, that could
Alice (PS0RY) [15860] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15861] be ... the other thing, you know.
Alice (PS0RY) [15862] It's been there ... er, for sale for a few months and sold it by February at a
Raymond (PS0PN) [15863] That's right.
Alice (PS0RY) [15864] loss.
[15865] ... To save on [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15866] She had the Monday market didn't she? [...] ... like all ... things, you know, though people do tend to go in and look and then say ooh yes, very nice!
Alice (PS0RY) [15867] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15868] We'll think about it and say ooh oh ... you have this don't you?
Alice (PS0RY) [15869] Especially at lunch with the [...] they come up and spend
Raymond (PS0PN) [15870] Ooh yes.
Alice (PS0RY) [15871] little bit on [yawn] , they're still buying.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15872] Ooh yes!
Alice (PS0RY) [15873] Because they're going ... they go by the band road ... down south.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15874] And sell it much dearer there obviously so er ... you know
Alice (PS0RY) [15875] They, they still buy it ... [...] ... no, okay I can charge ... where in this economic situation and we think [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15876] Oh no, no!
Alice (PS0RY) [15877] No I ... no, there is erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15878] We bought , we bought stuff ourselves you know, to people and we've spent on it, so
Alice (PS0RY) [15879] Yeah.

91 (Tape 030724)

Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15880] It's my last weekend ... but it was such a scramble!
[15881] ... I was, wanting to get home ... I, I couldn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [15882] Mm.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15883] be bothered but erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [15884] Yeah.
[15885] ... Well you know the erm ... Handbridge ... [...] ?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15886] Yes.
[15887] ... Yes
Raymond (PS0PN) [15888] Well you
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15889] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15890] but I think there's only one ... shop there, The Pearl Antiques ... just over the bridge on the right hand side
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15891] Over the bri , oh I know yes!
[15892] A
Raymond (PS0PN) [15893] anyway
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15894] that they call Vineholts ... Vineholts is a cake shop right opposite there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15895] Oh yes , that's right yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15896] Well I hadn't been there for ages!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15897] Have you got a a row of shops on your left ... by the pub
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15898] Yes, and then on the right
Raymond (PS0PN) [15899] then er er a park on your right and
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15900] right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15901] then a couple of the shops, and she's about on the corner this
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15902] Oh, well I haven't been that way yet.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15903] Just a couple of ladies erm ... well it's one lady, I think er ... the lady just helps her.
[15904] ... We've been in a couple of times and I said that I wanted a chaise you see ... ooh I got this ... erm ... one for [...] ... Victorian one ... it's very nice, and lovely warm ... you know, the legs ... anyway it was one ... one thousand three hundred you see, so I thought, oh ... I said well ... I didn't wanna
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15905] I beg your pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15906] Well that's what you can spend now for a good one.
[15907] ... But this is ready to take home ... but ... I said oh, can I have it out?
[15908] She said, yes.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15909] That's finished is it then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15910] Oh yes, yes!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15911] Had to be.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15912] Oh, yes, yes, yes!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15913] Only one seat then?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15914] Oh yes yeah.
[15915] ... I said to her have you got one that's in bits?
[15916] ... [laughing] But er ... for three hundred, you know [] ... er ... but ... er er
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15917] But
Raymond (PS0PN) [15918] the back was loose!
[15919] And I said, and she said oh well ... she said you know well it's ... that's how you've gotta take it stripped, for me to take that to get that ... done up by a restorer ... you'd have to take all the upholstery off, or quite a bit off
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15920] Well I was gonna say
Raymond (PS0PN) [15921] and then if it'd go up to about one seven she said, and I couldn't sell it here she said, I'm not Chester prices ... I'm just that bit cheaper.
[15922] ... Which, a lovely lady!
[15923] ... But
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15924] But
Raymond (PS0PN) [15925] I thought, I was surprised to see it was loose, you know.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15926] Well that's it, I mean the joints
Raymond (PS0PN) [15927] You've gotta take it home like that.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15928] the joints have got to be done haven't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15929] The joints have gone and this wanted doing but ... it would of been extortionate she said, you know, to get it done
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15930] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15931] and then try and sell it ... you know, take
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15932] Well that's alright.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15933] all that into account.
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15934] I think it's terrible really!
[15935] ... That's bad!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15936] And I've seen chairs like that, I've seen ... I don't know whether it's there but ... a couple of places, bedroom chairs, gorgeous things, you know!
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15937] And ... [...] the backs!
[15938] You know, you can do this with the back!
[15939] ... I mean, you don't like saying to the people
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15940] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15941] you know, because
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15942] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15943] their faces drop when [laughing] you
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15944] They do. [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15945] you're not supposed to say []
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15946] You'll be marked man when you get in there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15947] You're supposed be glad that it's old and ... [laughing] don't sit in there, you know th [] ... but er ... it's bad, but though isn't it?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15948] It is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15949] Well you know, you turn things out here and you go in ... you might see that little [...]
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15950] Yeah, put it in [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15951] and magnified in your mind aren't they?
Gwyneth (PS0PY) [15952] That's right, like my ... my [...] . [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15953] That's alright.
[15954] ... I like it.
[15955] ... Top of the class Gwyneth!

92 (Tape 030725)

Shirley (PS0PS) [15956] Get the stuff done well ... er ... [...] terrible, and he said yes it, why not!
Raymond (PS0PN) [15957] Mm.
[15958] ... Might go and ask him about that ammonia.
Shirley (PS0PS) [15959] Yes ... you're ammonia is heated downstairs.

93 (Tape 030726)

John (PS0PW) [15960] Right ... erm ... eight eighty ... ammonia.
[15961] How much d'you want?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15962] Well I mean, whatever you say in the ... well no [...]
John (PS0PW) [15963] I think it'll [...] you a hundred CC or ... a a of [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15964] Yeah.
John (PS0PW) [15965] Yonks
Raymond (PS0PN) [15966] Fair enough.
John (PS0PW) [15967] Right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15968] The only thing, other thing is we've been ... you know ... debating about the er ... stuff to make up the wax which we'll have to go to Morrells by all, and get it sent here
John (PS0PW) [15969] Well listen
Raymond (PS0PN) [15970] anybody.
[15971] ... Anyone
John (PS0PW) [15972] that wax that we made up there ... with the antique wax hasn't turned out as well it did with Mansion polish ... so when you make it up ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [15973] Mansion?
John (PS0PW) [15974] Mm ... get some Mansion wax.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15975] Oh!
John (PS0PW) [15976] I think they cut it too.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15977] I wouldn't believe it made that much difference do you?
John (PS0PW) [15978] Gone all solid.
[15979] I never tried it actually [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [15980] Oh I see!
[15981] ... So you want the old fashioned
John (PS0PW) [15982] Mansion polish
Raymond (PS0PN) [15983] Mansion.
John (PS0PW) [15984] with it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15985] There's only a small amount in it anyway.
John (PS0PW) [15986] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15987] Show yo , show you a wax polish you haven't seen before.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15988] Ooh fair enough, [...] .
[15989] ... He's gonna bring some ... er [...] for us.
Margaret (PS0PP) [15990] Oh is he?
Raymond (PS0PN) [15991] So we need ... because you've gotta have the right stuff.
[15992] It's no good messing
Margaret (PS0PP) [15993] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15994] about with the ... the normal household stuff.
John (PS0PW) [15995] Yeah ... so ... [...] said we can get.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15996] Yeah, I wish now I didn't think, I that I'd ask [...] , he was busy ... and
John (PS0PW) [15997] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [15998] had he got a great big bottle?
[15999] It was only forty pence!
John (PS0PW) [16000] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16001] You kno , you know I said it's ... I had the er ... the recipe
John (PS0PW) [16002] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16003] there, so it's two ounces, so it's a [...] .
John (PS0PW) [16004] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16005] But I suppose I should of got a ... couple of quid of
John (PS0PW) [16006] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16007] but not for all these, you know
John (PS0PW) [16008] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16009] but ... I think I'll cheat.
[16010] ... So er
John (PS0PW) [16011] So
Raymond (PS0PN) [16012] Anyway, we'll see you on Tuesday won't we Mike?
Mike (PS0RW) [16013] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16014] All being well.
Mike (PS0RW) [16015] Yes.
[16016] ... And maybe I'll ... start on the chair.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16017] Wha what do we need to ... to be a [...] ?
[16018] ... Egg cups as well?
Mike (PS0RW) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16019] More legs.
[16020] ... Hey, [...] we can have an egg race!
John (PS0PW) [16021] An egg race.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16022] Egg and spoon race!
Mike (PS0RW) [16023] Er no when you erm ... you know that I was telling you keep your bit of used up ... erm ... sandpaper ... fly paper
Margaret (PS0PP) [16024] Yes.
Mike (PS0RW) [16025] you make that into a little cornet ... and mi put it in
Margaret (PS0PP) [16026] Oh!
[16027] Right!
Mike (PS0RW) [16028] Yo it's it's ... a cornet like that.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16029] Oh yes we do that, yeah.
Mike (PS0RW) [16030] You need to, you need to stand it in something.
[16031] ... In the
Margaret (PS0PP) [16032] Yeah.
Mike (PS0RW) [16033] egg box [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16034] Well we've ... oh, it's easy!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16035] What for doing your er ... pigments and that, is it mixing
Margaret (PS0PP) [16036] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16037] those up?
[16038] ... Oh I see
Margaret (PS0PP) [16039] We erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16040] ah yes, yes, I see now yes!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16041] We use a bit of the top of the jar normally and er
Raymond (PS0PN) [16042] Hey one thing I was ... gonna query you on Mike ... the erm ... sanding sealer you know ... you say you must leave that for at least a week?
Mike (PS0RW) [16043] Well, you can bi ... what I tend to is ... is get a coat on ... er, first thing in the morning, another coat in the afternoon and then leave it for a week.
[16044] ... Cos it really does, it still goes on settling into the
Raymond (PS0PN) [16045] Oh yeah!
Mike (PS0RW) [16046] grain [...] , have you got it here?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16047] I don't know, I, I, I took it home
Mike (PS0RW) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16048] with me.
Mike (PS0RW) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16049] No, I took it home, I I was sort of leaving that to you you know, as you say, as you've just mentioned now ... that, but no, I thought when you first ... of you said haven't got the time to put these all the layers of [...] on, you know and
Mike (PS0RW) [16050] That's why!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16051] and you ... you gotta wa
Mike (PS0RW) [16052] Yo
Raymond (PS0PN) [16053] Yes, I suppose
Mike (PS0RW) [16054] You should come in the breaks.
[16055] ... I was purely killing myself!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16056] Initially you you're doing that then saying right, forget that one, get on with something else and that's there for a week or whatever till that ... thoroughly hardens and then [...] .
Mike (PS0RW) [16057] [...] , look at that ... and then and then you can [...] straight onto it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16058] Right, I'll leave that till Tuesday.
[16059] So if I bring it again on Tuesday
Mike (PS0RW) [16060] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16061] in the state that I've ... you know
Mike (PS0RW) [16062] Have you put one coat on ... already?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16063] Yes.
Mike (PS0RW) [16064] Er ... what's it look like?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16065] Seems quite thick you know.
[16066] Don't forget I'm go , we're going on top of polish here.
Mike (PS0RW) [16067] We'll try it.
[16068] ... We'll try it and see what it looks like.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16069] It'll ... you know
Mike (PS0RW) [16070] If you need to, just have to put another one on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16071] Yes.
Mike (PS0RW) [16072] [...] ... [...] ... have you got sute and carbide here?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16073] Well
Mike (PS0RW) [16074] Got [...] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16075] I don't know what you call it here.
Mike (PS0RW) [16076] The grey paper.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16077] Grey, yes, oh yes!
Mike (PS0RW) [16078] B twenty.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16079] That's it, yes!
[16080] ... Yeah.
Mike (PS0RW) [16081] So that's what I'll I'll use on [...] ... right!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16082] Okay, well see you Tuesday anyway.
Mike (PS0RW) [16083] Right.
[16084] ... Cheerio!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16085] Bye!
[16086] ... Bye bye!
John (PS0PW) [16087] You off home?

94 (Tape 030727)

Raymond (PS0PN) [16088] from actually Pat,i ... Romford is it?
[16089] ... What do you say?
Pat (PS0RV) [16090] No! ... [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16091] West London.
Pat (PS0RV) [16092] No!
[16093] ... I was born ... in the City of London ... actually.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16094] Oh that's right yes!
[16095] ... And then
Pat (PS0RV) [16096] Actually ... within the sound of Bow bells, I was!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16097] Were you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16098] I thought so!
Pat (PS0RV) [16099] Yes!
[16100] Yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16101] Every now and again you slips
Pat (PS0RV) [16102] [...] talk like that if I want to.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16103] She says free!
[16104] ... Free o 'clock!
[16105] ... No, she doesn't, no!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16106] But then you lived most of yo
Pat (PS0RV) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16107] Oh yes.
Pat (PS0RV) [16108] In the war we went to [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16109] By the sea?
[16110] ... Good old
Pat (PS0RV) [16111] And started off by the sea ... but that wasn't a good idea really was it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16112] [laughing] No [] !
Pat (PS0RV) [16113] [laughing] [...] [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16114] [laughing] No, that was bad planning that was [] !
Pat (PS0RV) [16115] [...] , no!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Pat (PS0RV) [16116] So we just stayed anywhere [...] and if you hadn't got anywhere to go
Raymond (PS0PN) [16117] That's right.
Pat (PS0RV) [16118] go in anywhere.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16119] Mm, mm.
Pat (PS0RV) [16120] We ended up not by the sea.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16121] And look where you've ended up, this dump!
Pat (PS0RV) [16122] Yeah.

95 (Tape 030728)

Raymond (PS0PN) [16123] Oh I think so.
Shirley (PS0PS) [16124] That'll be alright.
[16125] ... I forgot, don't know the [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16126] yes!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16127] What about Buckley North Wales, now there's a bit of class up there you know, in those hills!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16128] Oh no! [...] yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Shirley (PS0PS) [16129] No, I've er, I used to have a bungalow in Wales.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16130] Not a lot!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16131] Showens in between erm ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16132] Oh it's
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16133] Just get
Shirley (PS0PS) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16134] under water now!
[16135] ... Your bungalow!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16136] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16137] No!
[16138] ... Terrible!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16139] Oh no it's er ... [...] I'm afraid.
[16140] ... And so he decided he could get about three caravans on the ... the price that my bungalow was occupying.
[16141] It was only summer ... timber thing, you know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16142] Yes, that's right. [...] .
Shirley (PS0PS) [16143] It had to go because he could make more money having erm ... the three caravans on the site that this occupying.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16144] The old story!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16145] So ... I enjoyed it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16146] So you haven't got your ... fierre de tie now?
[16147] ... Or you've
Shirley (PS0PS) [16148] The children
Raymond (PS0PN) [16149] got another one?
Shirley (PS0PS) [16150] the children loved it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Shirley (PS0PS) [16151] Used to go [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16152] Happy da

96 (Tape 030729)

Bruce (PS0R0) [16153] I'm a teapot Ray!
[16154] ... It's a, I'm not lying to you, you know!
[16155] ... I put four teabags in there ... fill it up with boiling water ... right?
[16156] ... And then put it on the stove ... and stew it!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16157] Mm mm.
[16158] Oh no!
Bruce (PS0R0) [16159] [...] ... right, and that I do all day is put a little top up in there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16160] I couldn't drink that now!
[16161] No, I, I
Bruce (PS0R0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16162] I have done years ago.
[16163] ... That was the Irish way that.
Bruce (PS0R0) [16164] [...] well that's the way I've
Raymond (PS0PN) [16165] Used to say
Bruce (PS0R0) [16166] I've always
Raymond (PS0PN) [16167] do you want a cup of tea that's been stewing for three days?
Bruce (PS0R0) [16168] Just go and get it when you are ... when you want more of this.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16169] Ah, but it's goes too
Bruce (PS0R0) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16170] dark doesn't
Bruce (PS0R0) [16171] the er
Raymond (PS0PN) [16172] it?
Bruce (PS0R0) [16173] strongest [...] you know, about his [...] all night, you know it really does.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16174] But you must have a go , a fantastic coating on your insides [laughing] don't you [] !
Bruce (PS0R0) [16175] Yeah.
[16176] ... Like the inside of
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Bruce (PS0R0) [16177] a teapot, like.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16178] [laughing] [...] [] !
[16179] ... He hasn't finished yet with his ... are they on [...] or a finger?
Bruce (PS0R0) [16180] I'll just move some
Raymond (PS0PN) [16181] Alright, my old son God bless!
[16182] ... That'll do me now.

97 (Tape 030730)

Raymond (PS0PN) [16183] In er, in that sense I agree
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16184] I I
Margaret (PS0PP) [16185] that waxing's taken half an hour!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16186] Yeah, it's just this waiting for this sanding sealer you see to ... dry.
[16187] But then you're not spending hours
Margaret (PS0PP) [16188] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16189] putting ... you know the ... button on the while you are here.
[16190] ... If you do it the way Bill says.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16191] Everybody [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16192] Will you be wanting it?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16193] [...] already made up [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [16194] Cos I need
Raymond (PS0PN) [16195] It's a
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16196] it's a grey area isn't it? ... [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16197] Well it's been on
Raymond (PS0PN) [16198] No, I mean
Margaret (PS0PP) [16199] for so long, I mean I can't [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16200] I mean yo , you don't get waxing off Bill do you?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16201] No.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16202] Yeah we, he showed me.
[16203] Was it two times ... [...] that's what I do ... and then ... and then ... let it harden off ... and then
Raymond (PS0PN) [16204] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16205] put the wax on.
[16206] That's why [...] .
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16207] I think the ... some of the we've ... turned out isn't so important is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16208] Oh no.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16209] You know, you get something that's only twenty five years old
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16210] it's not so important to get it perfect.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16211] I say, it's like a [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16212] You know, as the stuff he's ... doing because
Margaret (PS0PP) [16213] Oh yeah!
[16214] That's right.
[16215] And he's very good!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16216] Very good top quality you see so ... he's gotta have it right.
[16217] ... That stuff.
[16218] ... It's handy to know the right way to do it innit?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16219] Yes, I suppose it is.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16220] And I mean the way he did that table
Margaret (PS0PP) [16221] I suppose cos he ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16222] It's nice that table anyway!
[16223] ... That old one's gone, you know.
[16224] ... So I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with that.
[16225] ... It's a nice approach I think.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16226] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16227] And he makes it interesting.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16228] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16229] Whereas ... Bill
Margaret (PS0PP) [16230] Bill
Raymond (PS0PN) [16231] tends to be a bit I don't know ... se ... dictorial
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16232] doesn't he?
[16233] This is how it's done ... get on with it I'm going now!
[16234] ... You know, and then if you ask him again he says, I've told you once!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16235] But he does get funny!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16236] He's a funny man!
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16237] What do you want, a chair?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16238] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16239] Er, there's one over here look!
[16240] ... There's one left.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16241] He's got that huge nice house!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16242] Yes, I know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16243] I know what that means.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16244] Do want a pouffe?
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16245] These Coxes are nice!
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16246] One of my
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16247] favourite apples ... is erm ... er, a russet.
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [16248] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16249] We left that [...] really.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16250] But the last, really seem to be tiny now and
Margaret (PS0PP) [16251] Yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16252] I
Margaret (PS0PP) [16253] They're not nice when they're full of [...] that's a horrible colour that one!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16254] Yeah , and just a, as an old ... old taste about them!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16255] I get my favourite apple [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16256] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16257] Some of them are a bit tasteless I find.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16258] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16259] Absolutely no taste at all!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16260] What like a peach? ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16261] Yeah.
[16262] ... You soon get fed up eating it don't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16263] But you'll soon find that it only needs one [...] .
Group of unknown speakers (KDMPSUGP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16264] I am.
[16265] ... Do you want my core Margaret?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16266] It's
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16267] [laughing] Used to say that in Liverpool [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [16268] I thought [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16269] Can I have your core?
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16270] [laughing] Ooh God [] !

98 (Tape 030731)

Raymond (PS0PN) [16271] A And then again have chair, you know,pe , people are ... reticent of it, they're frightened if it goes
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16272] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16273] I'd be hopeless!
[16274] I wouldn't be able to do it, keep up
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16275] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16276] with cos
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16277] Well ... when we had the open day and we had a lot of people round here!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16278] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16279] It's really interesting!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16280] Yeah.
[16281] ... Yeah, I notice Joan tapping at the [...] saying, ooh ooh ooh ooh!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16282] Yeah she's sewing them all up for Friday!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16283] Has she?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16284] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16285] Oh, didn't know.
[16286] ... What do you mean ... vell
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16287] Well no, a whole of vell ... he's going to go get some ... give me some [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16288] For, for September?
[16289] ... Bit early yet isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16290] Well, it could have been
Raymond (PS0PN) [16291] Won't have the roll and foam.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16292] [...] well then [...] put it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16293] Well, I wouldn't of thought
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16294] Won't be
Raymond (PS0PN) [16295] so they wouldn't be allowed to join
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16296] won't be hardly
Raymond (PS0PN) [16297] would they er
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16298] hardly anything left now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16299] No.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16300] And I don't know how many dropped out so
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16301] twenty two.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16302] I'd
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16303] well I suppose they could do couldn't they?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16304] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16305] And it's not gonna cost anything so the
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16306] I mean Pat ... started late with us, you know.
[16307] ... She ... she missed about two months, I think, Pat.
[16308] ... But she soon caught up, you know it ... didn't make any difference to her but
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16309] There's John next door, he di , he just started a couple of weeks ago.
[16310] ... About five
Raymond (PS0PN) [16311] The young chap?
[16312] Short chap?
[16313] ... Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16314] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16315] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16316] And ... he's doing brilliantly!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16317] He's , he's marvellous on the ... upholstery.
Shirley (PS0PS) [16318] On the upholstery, yeah!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16319] Well
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16320] He's only twenty!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16321] [...] to go
Raymond (PS0PN) [16322] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16323] into somewhere
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16324] Erm ... you know ... the the the table that he's doing now he's doing the varnishing the table, you know and he really ... [...] in!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16325] You know [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16326] I always [...] it's terrible!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16327] Some people seem to ... drop in don't
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16328] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16329] they?
[16330] Others have a bit of a tough time especially ... I think with ladies
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16331] Well I found it easy.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16332] they're join , doing joints and that, you know, er I mean,tha tha ... Sheila, she said oh ... I'm not interested at all in doing mortars and tenons or
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16333] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16334] [laughing] you know [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16335] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16336] But then if you want to ... do the restoration yo
Shirley (PS0PS) [16337] I've have a go I'll have a go at them ... they were ... they didn't look very good but, I mean, at least I did them, you know
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16338] Yeah.
Shirley (PS0PS) [16339] I
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16340] Oh, I think they're [...] and maybe you you you you improve with testing them.
Shirley (PS0PS) [16341] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16342] Got to!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16343] Both got [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16344] Oh!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16345] The [...] that
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16346] Yeah.
Shirley (PS0PS) [16347] realise actually [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16348] You get too busy you know, for what you've got to do ... to [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16349] Of course!
Shirley (PS0PS) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16350] Yeah!
Shirley (PS0PS) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16351] I mean, look at
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16352] now
Raymond (PS0PN) [16353] look at me or the guys with the ... sewing machines ... I mean
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16354] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16355] Ya.
[16356] ... The
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16357] The
Raymond (PS0PN) [16358] these hands weren't meant for sewi ... but I mean yo ... you do get better.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16359] Oh yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16360] It's surprising!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16361] Especially when you [...] ... you know, just like a [...] .
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16362] She really has got [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16363] Mind you she looks a bit tired now, asleep isn't she?
[16364] ... But er ... well ... this is no good!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16365] Well I
Raymond (PS0PN) [16366] The whistle's gone.
[16367] ... Come on Shirley, I, you're
Shirley (PS0PS) [16368] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16369] usually first up for that!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16370] [laughing] We're always rushing [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16371] Yeah [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16372] [laugh] ... No you're not.
Shirley (PS0PS) [16373] I'm going [...] Mrs .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16374] Again?
Shirley (PS0PS) [16375] I don't thi ... I don't think Miss
Raymond (PS0PN) [16376] They don't call her part-time Shirley for nothing you know!
[16377] ... Mind you, when she's here it's worth it!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16378] Ah!
[16379] ... I see.
[16380] ... Now,i are we interested in going to the [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16381] Yes.
Shirley (PS0PS) [16382] It's on the sixth of July ... and it'll cost forty pounds.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16383] Forty!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16384] And then
Raymond (PS0PN) [16385] you said twenty five quid!
Shirley (PS0PS) [16386] I've been told that on Tuesday.
[16387] ... It's gonna be forty
Raymond (PS0PN) [16388] Mind you, for that, girl
Shirley (PS0PS) [16389] pounds.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16390] it's worth, it's worth it!
[16391] ... Forty pounds, right I'll get a bit of paper.

99 (Tape 030732)

Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16392] He, He went into hospital ... and they said erm ... that it's the muscles of his heart that were affected ... they couldn't do anything more for him!
[16393] ... Just sa , you know, so he said right well I might as well go home.
[16394] So he went home ... and he out about two weeks ... got fed up, you know, like that man ... you know, doing nothing ... so he had a scooter that needed repairing ... he died as he repaired the scooter!
[16395] ... She went out ... his wife, shopping ... left him ... tinkering with this scooter ... came back, couldn't get in ... then she did get in and he was dead on the floor!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16396] Good grief!
[16397] ... What a terrible for the wife!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16398] Sixty, sixty!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16399] You don't know, I mean he could of gone ... if he'd been lying in a chair wa ... watching the
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16400] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16401] telly you just
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16402] Mm mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16403] don't know!
[16404] I mean at least he was doing something that
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16405] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [16406] he liked.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16407] stretched out on the floor!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16408] But of course, I mean, we know little about it ... they do say if you have had a heart attack ... it's no good ... you know, as soon you get up and you start eating ... going for five mile walks
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16409] Oh no, that'd
Raymond (PS0PN) [16410] it's gotta be a very
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16411] different.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16412] gradual thing.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16413] Yeah.
[16414] ... I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [16415] But yo you must exercise but
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16416] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16417] obviously using ... a bit of sense
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16418] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16419] as well.
[16420] ... Perhaps he's, perhaps ... [...] him something or
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16421] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16422] strained.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16423] Well ... standing or you know ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16424] God I dunno!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16425] He probably was told to go home and take it easy, you know, and
Raymond (PS0PN) [16426] Mm.
[16427] ... He's like me you get ... well like most
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16428] You can't
Raymond (PS0PN) [16429] men they get fed up, that's like
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16430] I know
Raymond (PS0PN) [16431] most women [...] do the same.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16432] oh yeah bu ... you see, er er, you're not supposed to life anything for ... if one of my grandsons falls over, the first thing you do is pick him up ... you know!
[16433] ... And then er
Raymond (PS0PN) [16434] It's so constricting!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16435] Yo yo you, you been used to working hard and if they say don't do this
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16436] Yeah.
[16437] ... You don't do it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16438] I I'd go mad I would, honestly!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16439] Mm mm.
[16440] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16441] But I I er ... remember Margaret, my wife when ... she had the er ... the last one ... which is a a ... gap of about ten years between the third you know, and the fourth child
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16442] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16443] so of course she had to in hospital ... so, have this on my pregnancy, you know
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16444] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16445] and we'd lost one.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16446] Mm mm.
[16447] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16448] Oh ... didn't wanna leave home, but anyway ... she went in and somebody said, oh it'll be about a week you know ... [...] ... my fifth one really.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16449] Mm mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16450] What?
[16451] Anyway, this ... somebody must of given her the idea, I think it was our local doctor ... oh you'll be alright you know, you have to have to have them in forty eight hours you see so
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16452] Mhm mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16453] she was in this hospita , the, the City Hospital in Chester which is not used now for that.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16454] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16455] And er ... I do don't know which day it was but she was sitting there fed up second day I'm thinking ... she said well I, I'm going home tomorrow, so I said ... no ... you're staying in for the week!
[16456] [laughing] We
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16457] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16458] well that was it then, urgh ... [...] [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16459] Yeah
Raymond (PS0PN) [16460] Anyway ... she was that bad, anyone ... sa who she saw ... plus the ... doctor, you know ... oh he said, oh no!
[16461] ... So I think they let her ... out the day after.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16462] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16463] The proviso that she ... [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16464] Took it easy , mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16465] I had to go ... there ... and er ... I could go back with her in the ambulance.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16466] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16467] And then of course, as you say ... strictly
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16468] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16469] no work, well
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16470] No.
[16471] ... Don't take any notice!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16472] You know what women are like, they ha
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16473] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16474] they got kids to look after, the first thing you do ... it's, it is ... silly really you know but I mean
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16475] Oh I know but you're ... especially
Raymond (PS0PN) [16476] For working people, unless you got a maid or something, which ... you know wha
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16477] Especially where there's children involved, I mean
Raymond (PS0PN) [16478] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16479] you just don't think, you've, you've lifted
Raymond (PS0PN) [16480] Kids don't understand.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16481] them before you think about ... you shouldn't be doing that.
[16482] ... You know, if they fall over and their
Raymond (PS0PN) [16483] But then again
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16484] knees are bleeding [laughing] or whatever [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16485] You say
Raymond (PS0PN) [16486] That's right!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16487] you pick them up, if they fall
Raymond (PS0PN) [16488] I was back at work which
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16489] you think er
Raymond (PS0PN) [16490] No they have
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16491] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16492] Ooh my doctor told me er ... [...] these guys aren't they, if their wife has a baby.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16493] Oh yeah!
[16494] ... Mm mm.
[16495] ... That were [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16496] They used to call them in in in on th , when I was collecting her
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16497] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16498] you know, and they'd say ... the wife ha had a baby
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16499] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16500] she'd be doing the work and th
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16501] And he'd be sitting watching the
Raymond (PS0PN) [16502] That the wa , leaving the
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16503] television!
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16504] [laughing] Cos they have the time
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16505] Yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16506] off to look after the
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16507] Yeah, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16508] wife [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16509] [laughing] [...] yeah [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16510] [laughing] Ah, God [] !
[16511] ... Oh [...] me!

100 (Tape 030733)

Raymond (PS0PN) [16512] The er ... the minstrel boy.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16513] Oh yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16514] You don't [...] , you don't wanna hear it!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16515] I've seen it, he's been [...] now.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16516] And I could
Margaret (PS0PP) [16517] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16518] just see the hall and an
Margaret (PS0PP) [16519] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16520] and the lovely voices ... voices ... well I say lovely!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16521] And then we wa
Margaret (PS0PP) [16522] [laugh] ... ha ... Was that in
Raymond (PS0PN) [16523] I'll just ask
Margaret (PS0PP) [16524] Wales?
[16525] ... Well they have got good voices in Wales haven't they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16526] No, no this is in ... Liverpool where I
Margaret (PS0PP) [16527] Oh was it?
[16528] ... Mm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16529] mainly brought up in
Margaret (PS0PP) [16530] mm, no.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16531] you know.
[16532] Yeah but erm ... ooh I can, I can remember that ... some ... good old ones [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16533] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16534] you know, you don't
Margaret (PS0PP) [16535] Which school did you go to?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16536] Oh, and er Lons Road in Weybridgeley ... when the war started we left Weybridgeley and went to er ... [...] ... and then ... erm ... Twig Lane was it?
[16537] ... And then, Highton Modern ... Secondary
Margaret (PS0PP) [16538] You might
Raymond (PS0PN) [16539] School, the Secondary Modern School
Margaret (PS0PP) [16540] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16541] with co , with co-eds
Margaret (PS0PP) [16542] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16543] you know.
[16544] ... And that was it then till I left ... but erm
Margaret (PS0PP) [16545] It was a different ... world though then wasn't it?
[16546] ... You know?
[16547] ... The nineteen sixties.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16548] Tell you what, when the wa , when the war was over we came ... came to erm ... Dissert
Margaret (PS0PP) [16549] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16550] when the bomb was about, in Weybridgeley
Margaret (PS0PP) [16551] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16552] you see ... for, I don't know, so many months.
[16553] ... My mum couldn't stand it in the end she sa ... let's get back to bomb there!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16554] Yeah, [...] [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16555] curtains used to go
Margaret (PS0PP) [16556] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16557] foreigners, yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16558] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16559] But er ... the school, I think it was Rudling I, I've often tried to find it but I I'm not sure which one i , you know, for
Margaret (PS0PP) [16560] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16561] little tots i , that's sa where they were.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16562] Probably some assembly rooms, that's what they put us in.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16563] Think this an actual ... churchy-type school
Margaret (PS0PP) [16564] Oh a school was it?
[16565] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16566] But they had a
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16567] li , I remember this little room now with a fire ... going
Margaret (PS0PP) [16568] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16569] you see.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16570] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16571] And erm ... one day a chap came with a donkey ... in the classroom ... and it was a, an educated donkey they were ... and he was ... what's three and three?
[16572] And he'd go once
Margaret (PS0PP) [16573] Counting, they do like the horses do in
Raymond (PS0PN) [16574] What
Margaret (PS0PP) [16575] the circus!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16576] what are the, what are these doing?
[16577] I said, I don't know I need to think.
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16578] [laughing] Oh God, it was magic it was [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [16579] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16580] And I look back on that and ... you know, nineteen
Margaret (PS0PP) [16581] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16582] forty ... one, or whatever it was, forty, forty one
Margaret (PS0PP) [16583] Yeah, through the evacuation.
[16584] ... Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16585] and it was er ... and then we came to ... er ... near ... er par ... Prenton
Margaret (PS0PP) [16586] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16587] in the caravan
Margaret (PS0PP) [16588] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16589] mum and dad ... came ... to
Margaret (PS0PP) [16590] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16591] stay in this caravan ... and these posh houses were [...] !
[16592] ... We went there one day and my sister and I,mu , mum was in Liverpool and the sign went ... sister was ... elder sister, he was terrified, our John!
[16593] ... And we ran to this house ... I said
Margaret (PS0PP) [16594] Aha!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16595] I said ... lady ... [laughing] can you take
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16596] my sister cos she's frightened of the bombs [] !
[16597] ... Really!
[16598] Where are you from she said?
[16599] In that field down [laughing] there [] !
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16600] God, she must of thought we were gypsies!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16601] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16602] Well, she said you'd better come in.
[16603] ... Always remember the ... be ... at the door where there was beads ... curtain, you know as you went through ... and you've never seen anything like before you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16604] [laughing] No [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16605] Sat there, this cup of tea, terrified!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16606] [laughing] More terrified than the ruddy planes coming over [] !
[16607] ... But my mum had to go
Margaret (PS0PP) [16608] Oh.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16609] over every week for the ... groceries you see, had to stick to your own grocer didn't you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16610] There's your rations.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16611] [...] , your ration
Margaret (PS0PP) [16612] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16613] books, and you couldn't sort of swop the
Margaret (PS0PP) [16614] Oh no!
[16615] No, they had to round.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16616] go over.
[16617] ... And mum always used to say ... that's what gave you that hernia that walking all the way for food!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16618] Yeah!
[16619] ... Dragging it all
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16620] backwards and forwards, yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16621] Oh God!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16622] Well ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16623] But I loved it you know!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16624] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16625] I loved it!
[16626] ... Perversely!
[16627] ... But, to me
Margaret (PS0PP) [16628] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16629] it was er er er exciting [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16630] Terrifying, yeah of course it was!
[16631] It was
Raymond (PS0PN) [16632] And my
Margaret (PS0PP) [16633] different, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16634] my sister didn't, she was frightened
Margaret (PS0PP) [16635] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16636] you know the
Margaret (PS0PP) [16637] Is she a bit older than you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16638] A couple of years older than me
Margaret (PS0PP) [16639] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16640] but she's a nervous type you know.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16641] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16642] They'd go collecting shrapnel in the street, you know and [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16643] Yeah, my brother would go out and do that, yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16644] Sometimes it was warm!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16645] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16646] Oh boy!
[16647] ... If it happened now I'd be ... I'd be terrified for the kids you know!
[16648] ... So you're
Margaret (PS0PP) [16649] It's in ... it's incredible isn't
Raymond (PS0PN) [16650] You
Margaret (PS0PP) [16651] it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16652] Birkenhead ... lady are you?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16653] Yo ah I ... I was born in Liverpool and I [...] ... mother, sort of a very old family ... a but erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16654] In what part of Liverpool?
[16655] ... Do you
Margaret (PS0PP) [16656] Er ... I was born in the ... it's off erm ... I don't suppose it's there any more ... erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16657] What's the road?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16658] what is the road that comes down erm ... joins erm ... you know where the Hippodrome ... er, used to be?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16659] No, not at all.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16660] No, erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16661] It's not West Derby Road, round there is it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16662] Yes!
[16663] It's at ... well i
Raymond (PS0PN) [16664] See when you said the Hippodrome
Margaret (PS0PP) [16665] it ... no, and it, no
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16666] this this road comes ... [...] , well there's the Hippodrome there ... or was, I don't suppose it's there now ... and ... you go, at this road here ... so it's this way ... on the ... West Derby Road comes this way
Raymond (PS0PN) [16667] I seem to remember the pub
Margaret (PS0PP) [16668] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16669] called The Grapes round there, is there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16670] The Breacon Well there was one called the
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16671] Breacon Well on that road
Raymond (PS0PN) [16672] That's right!
[16673] Lo , and this is, you go rou is is ... near to Lodge Lane
Margaret (PS0PP) [16674] and you went up
Raymond (PS0PN) [16675] round that way, it is?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16676] No, no.
[16677] ... Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16678] Edge Lane?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16679] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16680] Prescott Road.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16681] No, Edge Lane is over that way.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16682] Got West Derby Road and Prescott Road.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16683] No, no, you're going the other way!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16684] Oh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16685] Erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16686] When you're coming
Margaret (PS0PP) [16687] You know, going, as if you were going to erm ... do you know where the erm ... the, the funny thing was ... and the Brow , Everton Brow ... [...] , there was a
Raymond (PS0PN) [16688] Well I know Everton, yeah.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16689] cafe place ... erm ... what's that
Raymond (PS0PN) [16690] I use
Margaret (PS0PP) [16691] thing?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16692] Where they used to ma , yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16693] [laughing] ... What wa , what is it [] ?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16694] But they used to make it.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16695] Yes.
[16696] The [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16697] I dunno I
Margaret (PS0PP) [16698] the old ladies we used make the erm ... Everton coffee.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16699] Coffee , yes.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16700] Erm ... there was like a water tower thing in erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16701] I don't know [...]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16702] and a piece of a green railing rai , you know, if it was railed all round.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16703] Oh I see!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16704] Erm ... well this road ... went up to erm ... Breckfield Road
Raymond (PS0PN) [16705] Oh yes, I remember that!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16706] Well Breckfield Road North
Raymond (PS0PN) [16707] Breckfield Road
Margaret (PS0PP) [16708] and then ran
Raymond (PS0PN) [16709] I know the name.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16710] between
Raymond (PS0PN) [16711] Beside the Cabbage Hall was it?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16712] No.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16713] Pictures?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16714] No.
[16715] ... I don't think so.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16716] Yeah it's ... nineteen fifty when I left, you know, it's a long time ago!
[16717] And we wha well what if
Margaret (PS0PP) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16718] that was Highton you know, not Liverpool
Margaret (PS0PP) [16719] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16720] itself, that was a
Margaret (PS0PP) [16721] and then we moved from there ... to er ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16722] Going out to ... Skelmey is it?
[16723] ... Skelmersdale, or has tha that's gone?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16724] No, somewhere round er ... Queen's Drive, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16725] Oh Queen's Drive!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16726] that wo , you know at the end of erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16727] That's nice, [...] .
Margaret (PS0PP) [16728] Yes, it was very nice! mum liked
Raymond (PS0PN) [16729] Ooh!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16730] it, but pop didn't.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16731] Lot of doctors there and
Margaret (PS0PP) [16732] Because he printed the Echo and er ... when he was working late ... he couldn't get out there.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16733] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16734] And he missed his
Raymond (PS0PN) [16735] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16736] erm ... drinking partners I think.
[16737] ... So he
Raymond (PS0PN) [16738] Oh yeah!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16739] decided that we're moving back ... further in ... you know. ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16740] Mm mm
Margaret (PS0PP) [16741] back further in.
[16742] [laugh] ... Which is a pity ... and then of course they started throwing bombs around and we, we were, we were evacuated
Raymond (PS0PN) [16743] I see.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16744] to erm ... a place called Bridgenorth ... [...] ... [...] ... in between Bridgenorth and Kidderminster.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16745] I know I've se ... you know, Bridgenorth I've seen the signs there, I've never been there ... and er
Margaret (PS0PP) [16746] But the first time we went
Raymond (PS0PN) [16747] carpets, isn't that there?
Margaret (PS0PP) [16748] Where did we go first time?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16749] Lot of carpets.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16750] We we , we went twice on tha , we were evacuated twice.
[16751] ... We went to Welsh Hanson first ... erm ... my mum went as a volunteer, er a voluntary helper to eight children ... in charge of eight children.
[16752] ... We used to troop behind her wherever she went.
[16753] ... We went ... [laughing] sort of walk behind her like brown cow, you know [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16754] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16755] And one day we were coming along and these local ladies were coming ... towards us said ... oh we love going down the country roads ... and ... you know, oh look at all these poor refugees!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16756] Mm.
Margaret (PS0PP) [16757] [laughing] Well it's just my mother, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [laugh]
Margaret (PS0PP) [16758] [...] [] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16759] [laugh] Ooh! hor hor
Margaret (PS0PP) [16760] Refugees!
[16761] ... My dear ladies these children are in their own country!
[16762] ... They're not refugees
Raymond (PS0PN) [16763] And well looked after!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16764] they're evacuees! [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16765] What a thing to say!
Margaret (PS0PP) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16766] Probably thought, ooh the poor devils, you know they
Margaret (PS0PP) [16767] Ya.
[16768] Ya.
[16769] ... Well it's no wonder, we used to all troop behind her in ones and twos, you know like [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16770] Like a load of ducklings!
Margaret (PS0PP) [16771] Hang about!

101 (Tape 030734)

Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16772] Doing the erm
Raymond (PS0PN) [16773] Oh erm ... Theresa!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16774] The Bedford chair
Raymond (PS0PN) [16775] The one that's gone home?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16776] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16777] Theresa?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16778] She left me her lemonade.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16779] Oh yes!
[16780] ... I didn't know, she'd done three years she said!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16781] Pardon?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16782] Done three years, er ... here.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16783] Has she?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16784] That's what she said.
[16785] ... I've never seen her before this year!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16786] She probably comes on another day.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16787] Must do!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16788] Well I'm not supposed to be telling you it anyway! ... [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16789] What are you on er
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16790] Already [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16791] May?
[16792] You're on three days are you, or what?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16793] No one day.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16794] Oh just the one day?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16795] Yeah.
[16796] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16797] Today?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16798] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16799] But you can come in tomorrow if you want?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16800] If I wanted to, yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16801] That's fair enough.
[16802] ... That's what Pat and I gonna do next year.
Pat (PS0RV) [16803] Yeah , that's what we're gonna do.
[16804] ... Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16805] Sauce for the goose!
Pat (PS0RV) [16806] Got that fixed.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16807] I've never been in on a Friday afternoon ... because erm
Pat (PS0RV) [16808] Friday
Raymond (PS0PN) [16809] It's good!
Pat (PS0RV) [16810] is wonderful!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16811] Nice and quiet.
Pat (PS0RV) [16812] If I was desperate to finish something then I prefer to come on a Friday.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16813] Oh it's lo , it's lovely on a Friday isn't it Pat?
Pat (PS0RV) [16814] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16815] No aggro.
Pat (PS0RV) [16816] It's the best day!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16817] Well it always was Friday! ... [...]
Pat (PS0RV) [16818] [...] ... sort of erm ... nobody seems to be in a flap and it
Raymond (PS0PN) [16819] Yeah.
Pat (PS0RV) [16820] and you just ge ... [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16821] Do what you want ... come in here, go in the other room and
Pat (PS0RV) [16822] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16823] go and have a sleep!
Pat (PS0RV) [16824] It's the day to get things done isn't it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16825] It is
Pat (PS0RV) [16826] I think
Raymond (PS0PN) [16827] yeah!
[16828] ... It is!
Pat (PS0RV) [16829] And you got a bit more room [...] .
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16830] Yeah.
Pat (PS0RV) [16831] You gotta be careful [...] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16832] We drove up, my grandson go goes to nursery you see ... and I like to give Gwen a hand with the girls, I gotta be up with [...] now well it's ... driving everybody round the bend!
Pat (PS0RV) [16833] Sometimes it loosens up with a
Raymond (PS0PN) [16834] Aha!
Pat (PS0RV) [16835] bit of methylated.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16836] Yeah?
[16837] ... Two and half, and three and a half.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16838] Good old Joan!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16839] Into everything [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16840] Well our daughter said that erm ... she ... keeps ... trying to get a job you know, she's got these three kids, she's ... on her own ... so
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16841] Oh is she? ... well how old's
Raymond (PS0PN) [16842] and er
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16843] the youngest?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16844] er ... five I think
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16845] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16846] and the eldest only
Pat (PS0RV) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16847] five, eight, eight's the eldest.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16848] Five, they've got the girls , they're going to school now aren't
Raymond (PS0PN) [16849] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16850] they?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16851] But, you know it ... but erm ... well, she said the other week
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16852] Bet it's hard you know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16853] the job that could be going is at, this erm ... and they do these tapes or something in Flint
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16854] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16855] Er ... Saturday and Sunday.
[16856] ... Cos well if you could have the kids you know ... [laughing] [...] [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16857] No, not two days running Ray!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16858] Oh oh!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16859] You need one day to recuperate!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16860] What?
[16861] ... You get a bit passed it you know!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16862] Yeah.
[16863] ... No, I, oh I ca , I can manage them, you know, two or three days when they were babies ... when they were younger!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16864] I know, but it's all
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16865] but now they can ... si , run so fast
Raymond (PS0PN) [16866] I know!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16867] you know!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16868] I know!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16869] And she lives right on the [...] , they get out of the gate [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16870] You got no chance of catching you
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16871] Oh Lord, no chance!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16872] [laugh] ... When you think though, it's history isn't it, repeating itself?
[16873] ... Well it is my case.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16874] Oh yes, [...] .
[16875] ... You know I ... took himself off to the Park the other day, the ... the tiny one you know! ... and fortunately I wasn't in charge, his father was in charge of them.
[16876] Gone up to their ... their room to pick up some their toys ... I wouldn't know how to, but the older one can open the [...] gate!
[16877] ... And the [laughing] er [] ... she was running down the hill on [...] ... but ... a lorry [...] found them in Vale Park!
[16878] ... Playing [...] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16879] It's awful today, isn't it?
[16880] They're not safe leaving their ruddy gate are they?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16881] Cos David told me shocked [...] [laughing] be quite funny [] !
[16882] ... But he says to [...] ... he phoned him the other day ... [...] on my down this morning ... [laughing] ha ... so just to say, you know, that was ... crime of the century [] !
[16883] ... Mind you, I er, I didn't know.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16884] Well when you think I was only saying
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16885] this last week to friends,i , we, you used to live ... live on the street and we were just playing you know.
[16886] ... You know, not
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16887] Makes a difference.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16888] very few cars,e even in the city yo ... the side streets [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16889] Right.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16890] so I feel safe to play.
[16891] ... But I mean today
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16892] There's so many weirdos around the, Ray now, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16893] Well this is the other thing
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16894] Especially in in parks and things, yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16895] So without their parents ... lot of kids spend their time watching the telly don't they?
[16896] And videos and er ... and the these kids of our Carrie's they know how to work all these
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16897] Oh yeah!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16898] machines.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16899] Thing there with these fellers going along this thing.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16900] He tells me to how put
Raymond (PS0PN) [16901] But but but
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16902] the video games in now!
[16903] ... There's one now ... you press to ,twe , you press twelve and you ... [laughing] I don't know [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16904] Wish she'd come and tell me how to set ours for a film that's on about
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16905] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [16906] three o 'clock in the morning that I want to see because we're
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16907] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16908] ha ... you know it'd be handy that wouldn't it, if you could ... knew how to
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16909] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16910] set it?
[16911] ... Do you know how to do it Pat, do you?
Pat (PS0RV) [16912] [laughing] No, I don't [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16913] No, [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16914] We tried it once and we got the wrong ruddy film we did!
[16915] So ... I dunno!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16916] We , what make have you got Ray?
[16917] ... What make is it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16918] Er
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16919] Sony?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16920] Yeah, it is, yes, I think it's a Sony, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16921] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16922] But ... I mean, they're all the same aren't they, basically?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16923] I'll ask Brett to draw you a diagram cos she's knows how to do it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16924] But all I want is a knob to say right ... film ... tonight
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16925] Yeah.
[16926] ... Yeah, it's on timer.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16927] three o'clock.
[16928] ... That's all I want.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16929] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16930] Yeah,ye that's not that simple is it?
[16931] You've gotta go through a sequence you see.
[16932] ... Have
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16933] Oh have you?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16934] Oh yes!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16935] Oh I haven't a clue!
[16936] I really
Raymond (PS0PN) [16937] I was
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16938] haven't got a clue!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16939] Sam explained it to us once, in the end he said oh I'm go , I'm going home, he said [...] ... You know, he ... [laughing] he started asking us questions [] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16940] We flunk!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [laugh]
Pat (PS0RV) [16941] Didn't give you a written tape a ho
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16942] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16943] Oh, he said, it's easy look!
[16944] You do it with this bub bub bub bub bub
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16945] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16946] And the light started going.
Pat (PS0RV) [16947] Yes, well that's all very well when they know ho , well it's like those erm ... computer things isn't it?
[16948] You know, they
Raymond (PS0PN) [16949] Well Paul's got one of these at home it does
Pat (PS0RV) [16950] and tha one of my son-in-laws, he said
Raymond (PS0PN) [16951] it does everything!
Pat (PS0RV) [16952] now look, it's easy, you do this, this, this!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16953] I know, yes!
Pat (PS0RV) [16954] [...] first!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16955] I know, yes.
Pat (PS0RV) [16956] But you can't, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [16957] Yeah.
Pat (PS0RV) [16958] you're not taking in what he's doing.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16959] I know.
[16960] ... I got no interest at all me!
Pat (PS0RV) [16961] [...] ... blow down.
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
Pat (PS0RV) [16962] You know, show me a [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [16963] All I want is easy knobs to turn with
Pat (PS0RV) [16964] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16965] big letters on the ... oh dear me!
Pat (PS0RV) [16966] He says, for a start ... get your glasses on first!
Raymond (PS0PN) [16967] [laughing] Yes!
[16968] That's right!
[16969] ... That's a ... foot down a straight away isn't it, yeah [] !
[16970] ... You can't really see.
[16971] ... Oh dear me!
[16972] ... Mind you, they come to us sometimes for advice on jobs and that don't they?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16973] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16974] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16975] Works in both ways. ... [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16976] We may be the wrinklies but we
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16977] grow upwards.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16978] we know a bit!

102 (Tape 030735)

Raymond (PS0PN) [16979] Oh no
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16980] [...] ... it was [...] ... supposed to be here.
[16981] ... Mind you, gotta clean it all out and
Raymond (PS0PN) [16982] Take it out ... you got, I see, because you
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16983] drawing it
Raymond (PS0PN) [16984] can pull it too tight I suppose and then er
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...] [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [16985] it's gonna be right at the front.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16986] But I felt I should of worn it ... out of the material.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16987] Oh I see yes, that's good!
[16988] Good!
[16989] Good!
[16990] Good!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16991] [...] look like.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16992] In keeping with a ... a camber as well, are you, on that?
[16993] ... Is that part of the
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16994] Sorry?
Raymond (PS0PN) [16995] you're taking ... the camber as well on this
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16996] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16997] part are you?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [16998] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [16999] Getting the hold right, yes.
[17000] ... It's a lovely chair though isn't it?
[17001] ... It's worth
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17002] Lovely!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17003] spending a bit of time isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17004] Oh, you've got to!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17005] No, you tend to rush a job like that and then goof you wouldn't be happy.
[17006] ... Mm, it is yours is it, or ... [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17007] No , it's mine!
[17008] Yeah, no, I bought it
Raymond (PS0PN) [17009] Oh it's yours!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17010] I bought in [...] ... think I'd get it
Raymond (PS0PN) [17011] Lovely!
[17012] ... How much?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17013] I paid ... forty five for it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17014] Well done!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17015] And in fact, it's been a [...] ... that's why you needed quite a bit doing to it.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17016] That's old isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17017] Yes it's a twin.
[17018] ... Victorian [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [17019] Oh well, I told you saw one
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [17020] at The Cabe i in pa antiques in Chester ... erm ... well, it's a nursing chair it wa , it was an armchair.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17021] Oh yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17022] I forget whether it had wings on it or not.
[17023] ... Er, I don't even know The Cabe it's quite fancy isn't it, the stuff they've got?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17024] I've, I've never been to The Cabe actually.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17025] It's lo it is worth a look.
[17026] ... But they had this
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17027] Is it near Melody Antiques?
Raymond (PS0PN) [17028] Go no further, I'm going towards ... Sainsburys
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17029] Oh I know!
[17030] Oh yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17031] On the fifty one is it?
[17032] The Cristleton Road.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17033] I know, yes, yes, yes!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17034] And it's right opposite ... or near the ... well, not opposite the Billets ... it was the auction rooms before
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17035] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17036] you get to there.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17037] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17038] But they had one in the corner you see and I could see the back leg was gone ... said to Margaret an ... said I might as well do something of that, you know, to do up ... it's the only one ... that they had there that wanted ... really wanted repairing, so the feller said ooh ... I don't know he said ... hang on, I'll look in the book.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17039] Very, very lucky!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17040] Victorian ... walnut.
[17041] ... A hundred and forty.
[17042] ... The state it was in [...] !
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17043] Oh that's crazy!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17044] I said oh, I said, I'm very sorry but ... I don't kno , don't know what you'd have to charge to justify that ... you know, to buy it and then do it up, I don't know!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17045] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17046] You'd have to get two hundred and fifty at least, wouldn't you?
[17047] ... So I thought that was a bit greedy so, that's not bad at all that!
[17048] ... That would go for a lot more in Mold
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17049] Would it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [17050] Oh yes!
[17051] Oh yeah!
[17052] ... Definitely!
[17053] ... Which one do you get it from?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17054] I got this ... in
Raymond (PS0PN) [17055] Tell me.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17056] is it Philips?
[17057] Philips [...] in Chester.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17058] Oh that's the one you're ... oh!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17059] But what it wanted to
Raymond (PS0PN) [17060] Monday, isn't it?
[17061] The ... go
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17062] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17063] on a Monday?
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17064] But it is a, it wasn't a, it wasn't in ... ordinary auction ... what is was, somebody had died in Nantwich and they were doing ... selling the contents the of her house
Raymond (PS0PN) [17065] Oh I see, clearing.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17066] and ... it ... it was on a, on another ... day, I can't remember what day it was, but there wa
Raymond (PS0PN) [17067] Oh I see!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17068] but she said there weren't many people there actually and I got that [...] ... but the proceeds
Raymond (PS0PN) [17069] He is Welsh.
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17070] were all going to the R S P C A.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17071] Ah!
[17072] ... Special sale!
[17073] Ooh I'll have make a not of that!
[17074] ... I saw erm ... we saw a campaign chair ... near Mold ... week before last ... it was ... I asked the guy how much ... put down on it, you know, he said thirty pounds so I sa , I said I saw it for forty.
[17075] ... Didn't stay!
[17076] ... When you can get choice of them, if they're going for forty over a piece!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17077] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17078] Forty five, fifty, something like that.
[17079] ... And all it was, was a tiny thing, like a ruddy camp stool!
[17080] And the leg ... so he said, well ... half a leg was missing.
[17081] ... So I thought well I'm in with a chance, you know, one's ... wanted a [...] and this leg repairing ... so ... compare it with that ... no
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17082] No
Raymond (PS0PN) [17083] comparison really!
[17084] ... Very, very reasonable!
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17085] Mm.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17086] You got a chair that's worth ... another couple of hundred there so ... well, not yet.
[17087] ... Get this bit right on the back! [laugh] ... [...]
Unknown speaker (KDMPSUNK) [17088] Oh!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17089] God!
[17090] ... Ah!
[17091] ... Don't you get ... [laughing] critical when you've been here a bit?

103 (Tape 030736)

Raymond (PS0PN) [17092] John, I've got to ... get the car on the ramps.
John (PS0PW) [17093] Feel my back breaking!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17094] Is there any way to ... stop those ramps
John (PS0PW) [17095] Yes.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17096] shooting away.
John (PS0PW) [17097] That's why, [...] .
Raymond (PS0PN) [17098] I used to get two ... four by fours from the wall in the house.
John (PS0PW) [17099] Well I mean, that's an idea [...]
Raymond (PS0PN) [17100] No I can't do it [laughing] I haven't got these [...] [] !
[17101] And ... but they seem to shoot away though.
John (PS0PW) [17102] Bit of carpet.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17103] Carpet on ... on what?
John (PS0PW) [17104] On that.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17105] On the ramps?
John (PS0PW) [17106] Well on, no ... o on the floor.
[17107] ... No, you know the actual ramp itself
Raymond (PS0PN) [17108] Yes.
John (PS0PW) [17109] It's in, it's in rungs is it, yes?
Raymond (PS0PN) [17110] Yes.
John (PS0PW) [17111] The bottom rung ... bit of carpet round that line ... and wrap round the bottom rung.
[17112] ... So, but if a tyre runs on that ... you won't end up
Raymond (PS0PN) [17113] Oh I see!
[17114] The car [...] .
John (PS0PW) [17115] It won't fall back.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17116] It's like double.
John (PS0PW) [17117] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17118] Hey!
[17119] Of course, that's right it's cos it's got it on the [...] .
John (PS0PW) [17120] Yeah, so you're alright dad, just go on.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17121] Ah, you don't
John (PS0PW) [17122] You could ... you could ... make loads ... I can make loads of them!
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
John (PS0PW) [17123] Yeah, but ... the good thing, you know
Raymond (PS0PN) [17124] It's a good ramp innit, you see?
John (PS0PW) [17125] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17126] But I, you know, I told you the front brakes they er ... snapped the middle and all this.
John (PS0PW) [17127] [laughing] Yeah [] !
Raymond (PS0PN) [17128] But ... this week, because the handbrake is a, wanted ... tightening up, you know, but I'll do that ... get ... it's M O T in another weeks time.
John (PS0PW) [17129] Yeah.
Raymond (PS0PN) [17130] So er ... took off the shoes one side ... [...] had gone!
John (PS0PW) [17131] Oh oh Christ!
Raymond (PS0PN) [17132] You know ... [...] cylinders!
John (PS0PW) [17133] Cylinders all round, haven't you dad?
Raymond (PS0PN) [...]
John (PS0PW) [17134] Have you got the
Raymond (PS0PN) [17135] No, it's only one side.
John (PS0PW) [17136] Oh right.
[17137] So you get rubbers for it?
Raymond (PS0PN) [17138] No, I'll get a new one, I thought I'd co
Raymond (PS0PN) [17139] Only