BNC Text KE3

150 conversations recorded by `Tony' (PS0V4) between 28 November and 5 December 1991 with 9 interlocutors, totalling 9314 s-units, 62395 words, and 9 hours 36 minutes 58 seconds of recordings.


11 speakers recorded by respondent number 12

PS0V4 Ag3 m (Tony, age 37, civil service, Central South-west England, )
PS0V5 Ag3 f (Jackie, age 35, civil servant (pt), Central South-west England, ) wife
PS0V6 Ag0 f (Christine, age 11, student (state secondary), Central South-west England, ) daughter
PS0V7 Ag5 f (Rene, age 60+, retired, Central South-west England, ) mother-in-law
PS0V8 Ag4 f (Mum, age 59, shop assistant, Central South-west England, ) mother
PS0V9 Ag2 f (Vicky, age 29, sales assistant, Central South-west England, ) friend
PS0VA Ag3 f (Dot, age 40, civil servant, Central South-west England, ) colleague
PS0VB Ag3 m (Martin, age 37, civil servant, Central South-west England, ) colleague
PS0VC Ag4 f (Margaret, age 50, civil servant, Central Northern England, ) colleague
KE3PSUNK (respondent W0000) X u (Unknown speaker, age unknown) other
KE3PSUGP (respondent W000M) X u (Group of unknown speakers, age unknown) other

150 recordings

  1. Tape 010201 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  2. Tape 010202 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  3. Tape 010203 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  4. Tape 010204 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  5. Tape 010205 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  6. Tape 010206 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  7. Tape 010207 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  8. Tape 010208 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  9. Tape 010209 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  10. Tape 010210 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  11. Tape 010211 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  12. Tape 010212 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  13. Tape 010213 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  14. Tape 010214 recorded on 1991-11-28. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  15. Tape 010301 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  16. Tape 010302 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  17. Tape 010303 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  18. Tape 010304 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  19. Tape 010305 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  20. Tape 010306 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  21. Tape 010307 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  22. Tape 010308 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  23. Tape 010309 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  24. Tape 010311 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  25. Tape 010312 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  26. Tape 010313 recorded on 1991-11-29. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  27. Tape 010314 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  28. Tape 010315 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  29. Tape 010316 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  30. Tape 010317 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  31. Tape 010318 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  32. Tape 010401 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  33. Tape 010402 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  34. Tape 010403 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  35. Tape 010404 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  36. Tape 010405 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  37. Tape 010406 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  38. Tape 010407 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  39. Tape 010408 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  40. Tape 010409 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  41. Tape 010410 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  42. Tape 010411 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  43. Tape 010412 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  44. Tape 010413 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  45. Tape 010414 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  46. Tape 010415 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  47. Tape 010416 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  48. Tape 010417 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  49. Tape 010501 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  50. Tape 010502 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  51. Tape 010503 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  52. Tape 010504 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  53. Tape 010505 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  54. Tape 010506 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  55. Tape 010507 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  56. Tape 010508 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  57. Tape 010509 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  58. Tape 010510 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  59. Tape 010511 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  60. Tape 010512 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  61. Tape 010513 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  62. Tape 010514 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  63. Tape 010515 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  64. Tape 010516 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  65. Tape 010517 recorded on 1991-11-30. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  66. Tape 010601 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  67. Tape 010602 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  68. Tape 010603 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  69. Tape 010604 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( car ) Activity: Unspecified
  70. Tape 010605 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Carwash ) Activity: Unspecified
  71. Tape 010606 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Carwash ) Activity: Unspecified
  72. Tape 010607 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  73. Tape 010608 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  74. Tape 010609 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  75. Tape 010610 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  76. Tape 010611 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  77. Tape 010612 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  78. Tape 010613 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  79. Tape 010701 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  80. Tape 010702 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  81. Tape 010703 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Friend's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  82. Tape 010704 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  83. Tape 010705 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Aunt's House ) Activity: Unspecified
  84. Tape 010706 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Aunt's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  85. Tape 010707 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Aunt's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  86. Tape 010708 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Aunt's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  87. Tape 010709 recorded on 1991-12-01. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Aunt's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  88. Tape 010801 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  89. Tape 010802 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  90. Tape 010803 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  91. Tape 010804 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  92. Tape 010805 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  93. Tape 010806 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  94. Tape 010807 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  95. Tape 010808 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: Unspecified
  96. Tape 010809 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  97. Tape 010810 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  98. Tape 010811 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  99. Tape 010812 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  100. Tape 010813 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  101. Tape 010814 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  102. Tape 010815 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  103. Tape 010816 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  104. Tape 010817 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  105. Tape 010818 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  106. Tape 010819 recorded on 1991-12-02. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  107. Tape 010901 recorded on 1991-12-03. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Work ) Activity: training session
  108. Tape 010902 recorded on 1991-12-03. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  109. Tape 010903 recorded on 1991-12-03. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  110. Tape 010904 recorded on 1991-12-03. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  111. Tape 010905 recorded on 1991-12-03. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  112. Tape 011101 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  113. Tape 011102 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  114. Tape 011103 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( home ) Activity: Unspecified
  115. Tape 011104 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  116. Tape 011105 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  117. Tape 011106 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  118. Tape 011107 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  119. Tape 011108 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  120. Tape 011109 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Car ) Activity: Unspecified
  121. Tape 011110 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  122. Tape 011111 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  123. Tape 011112 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  124. Tape 011113 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  125. Tape 011114 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  126. Tape 011115 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  127. Tape 011116 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  128. Tape 011117 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  129. Tape 011118 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Shops ) Activity: shopping
  130. Tape 011201 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  131. Tape 011202 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  132. Tape 011203 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  133. Tape 011204 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  134. Tape 011205 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  135. Tape 011206 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  136. Tape 011207 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  137. Tape 011208 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  138. Tape 011209 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Mother's house ) Activity: Unspecified
  139. Tape 011210 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  140. Tape 011211 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  141. Tape 011212 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  142. Tape 011213 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  143. Tape 011214 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  144. Tape 011215 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  145. Tape 011216 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  146. Tape 011217 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  147. Tape 011218 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  148. Tape 011219 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  149. Tape 011220 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified
  150. Tape 011221 recorded on 1991-12-05. LocationAvon: Bristol ( Home ) Activity: Unspecified

1 (Tape 010201)

Tony (PS0V4) [1] What do you want, a packet of crisps?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [3] I want a packet of crisps.
Tony (PS0V4) [4] Oh. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5] You don't want very much ... the milkman left us two pints of milk this morning ... help me.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6] Put one on the table and the other in the fridge.
Tony (PS0V4) [7] Oh well ... er ... Jack?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8] Yes ... [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [9] [shouting] Yeah ... yeah. []
Jackie (PS0V5) [10] Oh ... no I don't, well yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [11] Aha.
Tony (PS0V4) [12] No, no that is, that's
Christine (PS0V6) [13] I want Twiglets
Tony (PS0V4) [14] that's it ... that's all we've got.
Christine (PS0V6) [15] I want some twiglets I want some twiglets.
Tony (PS0V4) [16] No ... not if you're gonna open, not unless you're gonna open it.
Christine (PS0V6) [17] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [18] Oh go on, let them open, I'll have a few with my tea.
Christine (PS0V6) [19] Yeah. [paper rustling]
Christine (PS0V6) [20] I turn on [...] today.
Jackie (PS0V5) [21] erm ... if you want to.
Tony (PS0V4) [22] Yeah. [paper rustling]
Jackie (PS0V5) [23] I actually called Del out today.
Tony (PS0V4) [24] Sorry?
Jackie (PS0V5) [25] I caught Del out ... twice. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [26] Caught an him out?
Jackie (PS0V5) [27] Yeah ... actually out in the cleaning.
Tony (PS0V4) [28] Oh right ... I see what you mean.
Jackie (PS0V5) [29] He looked at me and he went urgh its her and he ran down.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [30] I think I'll throw these cuttings away.
Tony (PS0V4) [31] Yes ... they're not doing anything are they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [32] Not these.
Tony (PS0V4) [33] Apart from sitting there and dying.
Jackie (PS0V5) [34] Sitting there and dying.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [35] lonely.
Tony (PS0V4) [36] Yeah ... ah ... oh yeah we've got plenty of milk haven't we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [37] Yes.
Christine (PS0V6) [38] Let me do that ... Mum.
Jackie (PS0V5) [39] Let's do that.
Christine (PS0V6) [40] Can I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [41] Yes, if you would please ... Don't eat them all Daddy wants some.
Christine (PS0V6) [42] I won't. [water pouring]
Tony (PS0V4) [43] Not made of glass you know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [44] Move Ben.
Tony (PS0V4) [45] Ben!
[46] ... Pain!
Christine (PS0V6) [47] Mhm.
Tony (PS0V4) [48] What's that?
Christine (PS0V6) [49] [...] it's really good. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [50] [laughing] He's really funny [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [51] [...] I like him.
Tony (PS0V4) [52] Yes ... that's pretty near the truth ... being nasty to you now ... Do you want to have some of those chipsticks then?
Jackie (PS0V5) [53] No ... I'm not ... [...] are not having anything this [...] ... for Christine.
Tony (PS0V4) [54] Ah ... okay ... ah now what was
Jackie (PS0V5) [55] What was that?
Tony (PS0V4) [56] just thinking.
Jackie (PS0V5) [57] What?
Tony (PS0V4) [58] I mean a lot of our conversations go on with the television on in the background.
Jackie (PS0V5) [59] Yeah, well we'll have to try it and see how it works.
Tony (PS0V4) [60] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [61] I mean ... if that ... upsets it ... then we'll
Tony (PS0V4) [62] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [63] ... yeah quite.
Jackie (PS0V5) [64] We'll have to try.
Tony (PS0V4) [65] They get, they get what they get.
Jackie (PS0V5) [66] Yes ... yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [67] Right ... Don't eat all those twiglets will you? [music in background]
Christine (PS0V6) [68] No ... Who moi!.
Tony (PS0V4) [69] Yes you.
Christine (PS0V6) [70] You're not supposed to say that.
Tony (PS0V4) [71] What am I supposed to say then?
Christine (PS0V6) [72] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [73] Shall I put all this in the bag?
Tony (PS0V4) [74] I was just going to grab the book.
Jackie (PS0V5) [75] Which book?
Tony (PS0V4) [76] and start it off.
Jackie (PS0V5) [77] is it a blue book ... that's the white one.
Tony (PS0V4) [78] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [79] The blue one is for yourself.
Tony (PS0V4) [80] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [81] Dad
Tony (PS0V4) [82] that's that for when I've done the first ten tapes.
Christine (PS0V6) [83] Dad
Jackie (PS0V5) [84] Yeah eleven to go.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [85] I want to do it together [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [86] Can you help Daddy, now ... find the erm ...
Tony (PS0V4) [87] Yeah if you just leave it down behind there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [88] [...] will use it as a [laughing] microphone [] ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [89] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [90] [laughing] Dirty look [] ... No ... don't you say a word ... [laughing] ... you ... you're wicked [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [91] [laugh] ... [laughing] I'm not going to []
Jackie (PS0V5) [92] [laugh] ... Do you want a banana?
Tony (PS0V4) [93] Mm, that'll be nice. [door bell] [dog barks]
Jackie (PS0V5) [94] Ben!
Tony (PS0V4) [95] Hello, it's the thing about spoken English.
Jackie (PS0V5) [96] [laughing] Microphone man [] .
Rene (PS0V7) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [97] I'll turn it off if you like.

2 (Tape 010202)

Christine (PS0V6) [98] Dad?
Tony (PS0V4) [99] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [100] Do you think I could have a go [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [101] Sorry?
Christine (PS0V6) [102] Do you think I could wear that for a little while?
Tony (PS0V4) [103] No it has to be me.
Christine (PS0V6) [104] Why?
Jackie (PS0V5) [105] No, it has to be Daddy.
Christine (PS0V6) [106] Why?
Tony (PS0V4) [107] Because I'm the sample.
Jackie (PS0V5) [108] [laughing] You're a sample [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [109] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]

3 (Tape 010203)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [110] That's funny weren't it?
Rene (PS0V7) [111] Can you get some more of those they're nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [112] Are you sure you don't want a cup of tea?
Rene (PS0V7) [113] No thanks.
Jackie (PS0V5) [114] Anybody want some more twiglets?
Tony (PS0V4) [115] Mm
Christine (PS0V6) [116] I'll have some.
Tony (PS0V4) [117] few more.
Christine (PS0V6) [118] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [119] I'll have a few more [paper rustling]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [120] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [121] Can't get them out ... you hold on.
Rene (PS0V7) [122] I had a cup of tea round Heathers the other night, I don't know what it was.
Christine (PS0V6) [123] Are you gonna keep that on my right shopping as well?
Tony (PS0V4) [124] I don't know.
Christine (PS0V6) [125] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [126] I might do ... depends if anybody doesn't like it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [127] Cos we'll have to ask Grandma and we'll have to ask Vicky.
Tony (PS0V4) [128] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [129] That's a good girl.
Jackie (PS0V5) [130] Was it the checkout girl we always go to?
Tony (PS0V4) [131] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [132] Oh and we
Jackie (PS0V5) [133] We already had her last week. [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [134] Grandpa when she [...] ... Grandma? ... [...] . [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [135] [laugh] ... an make mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [136] She missed you last week.
Tony (PS0V4) [137] Did she?
Jackie (PS0V5) [138] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [139] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [140] I love the way they just flow ... it's incredible really ... Don't be stupid [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [141] Do they?
Tony (PS0V4) [142] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [143] When they're ready now [laugh] ... wonder what century they are at now ... thank you Ben ... leave ... there's a good boy ... If a proper lady was here we'd shut you in the kitchen ... [...] claws on the lino and I think what's he doing? ... he wasn't scratching ... and we [...] and he [laughing] chasing a fly round the kitchen [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Rene (PS0V7) [144] [laughing] Didn't you [] ... were chasing a fly Ben ... eh?
[145] ... Is that nice big juicy one ... was it ... mm?
[146] ... Was it a nice big juicy fly?
Christine (PS0V6) [147] Mum ... You know that fifty pee you owe me?
Jackie (PS0V5) [148] Yes I know that fifty pee that I owe you I haven't forgotten about it.
Christine (PS0V6) [149] Doesn't matter.
Jackie (PS0V5) [150] Mm?
Christine (PS0V6) [151] You can [...] if you like ... Oh you're supposed to say no, not okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [152] You're supposed to say no it's alright dear
Jackie (PS0V5) [153] Here Ben
Christine (PS0V6) [154] don't worry dear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [155] That's two boxes [...] ?
Rene (PS0V7) [156] Still come round my house
Jackie (PS0V5) [157] No it's it's, she was a bit over the hill [laughing] for it I'm afraid [] .
Rene (PS0V7) [158] Ooh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [159] nineteen
Tony (PS0V4) [160] Well she was th ... mm ... she was looking for ... she was looking for somebody Re, who was in a particular age group.
Rene (PS0V7) [161] Mm ... thirty five to forty five.
Christine (PS0V6) [162] Oh, [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [163] Yeah, thirty five to forty five, cos they have to take it so many from each age group
Rene (PS0V7) [164] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [165] so they get er spread over the whole th the population
Christine (PS0V6) [166] Dad, Mum?
Tony (PS0V4) [167] and so er I was it. [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [168] Dad there was this alien he had these ginormous hands and silver eyes and he was really ugly
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [169] like ... just a minute, this Philip Schofield guy is popping up everywhere doesn't he?
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [170] He does ... [...] ... Can that hear the T V?
Tony (PS0V4) [171] Probably ... I don't know how successful it'll work but if I don't record conversations
Jackie (PS0V5) [172] Actually the little red light is flickering up and down ... I don't know
Tony (PS0V4) [173] No it's ... Oh yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [174] That's when you talk ... that's what [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [175] Oh so it's picking it up.
Tony (PS0V4) [176] I er it seems to be okay
Jackie (PS0V5) [177] Mm ... yeah, it's when you talk.
Tony (PS0V4) [178] Yeah, it's it's flickering when I talk ... yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [179] Are you going to wear it tonight?
Tony (PS0V4) [180] Erm ... I expect so.
Christine (PS0V6) [181] Mum, do you know Vicky?
Rene (PS0V7) [182] Don't lose it there or you'll have to
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [183] pay for it.
Tony (PS0V4) [184] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [185] Mum, I don't think she [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [186] But if I don't record it ... record when the television is on ... I'm not going to get very much at all.
Jackie (PS0V5) [187] No, you're not.
Rene (PS0V7) [188] So what
Tony (PS0V4) [189] As the television is always on [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [190] Oh no it's not always on.
Tony (PS0V4) [191] No alright.
Jackie (PS0V5) [192] But if the televisions not on, the cd is [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [193] Yeah, music we've normally got some noise going on in the background.
Christine (PS0V6) [194] Dad?
Tony (PS0V4) [195] Yeah?
Christine (PS0V6) [196] Guess what I've got to buy?
Tony (PS0V4) [197] Mm ... what?
Christine (PS0V6) [198] Can you guess?
[199] ... I got erm, no English is [...] ... R S ... Sega, Sciences
Jackie (PS0V5) [200] Mind your tea Chrissie ... dog, mutt.
Christine (PS0V6) [201] and Geography as well go ... go on forever.
Tony (PS0V4) [202] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [203] Who's is that?
Rene (PS0V7) [204] Well they're not yours.
Jackie (PS0V5) [205] I realise just today how
Tony (PS0V4) [206] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [207] small ... the back ... the back problem that she's got is.
Tony (PS0V4) [208] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [209] I saw a little girl in the hospital
Tony (PS0V4) [210] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [211] and she wasn't o , she didn't have a hump on her back, but it looked as though her whole rib cage was at a ...
Tony (PS0V4) [212] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [213] sort of forty degree angle to
Tony (PS0V4) [214] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [215] the body.
Tony (PS0V4) [216] Ah.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [217] Don't know.
Christine (PS0V6) [218] I don't want Grandma [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [219] What time have we gotta go?
[220] ... About ten past?
Jackie (PS0V5) [221] Five ... well what time does it start, five past? ... [...] ... as long as they're down before half past seven.
Rene (PS0V7) [222] Did you phone that hairdressers for me?
Jackie (PS0V5) [223] No I haven't yet
Rene (PS0V7) [224] Why?
Jackie (PS0V5) [225] erm ... I'll phone up tomorrow.
Rene (PS0V7) [226] Only if I'm going I might as well come up with you and get it all done together aren't I?
[227] ... It's not the musical one is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [228] No.
Rene (PS0V7) [229] Its in black and white ... Take after a lot of the Nazis are strange.
Tony (PS0V4) [230] Mm ... Is there anything worth recording ... tonight?
Jackie (PS0V5) [231] Murder most horrid
Tony (PS0V4) [232] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [233] and Canned Carrot
Tony (PS0V4) [234] Ha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [235] and that's about it.
Rene (PS0V7) [236] [laughing] Elliot gave Civil Servants [...] []
Tony (PS0V4) [237] [laugh] .
Rene (PS0V7) [238] [laughing] a good reputation [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [239] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [240] I wonder if Dad's got his other dog yet?
Tony (PS0V4) [241] Yeah ... yes.
Rene (PS0V7) [242] We'll soon know when they come here.
Tony (PS0V4) [243] Well providing he doesn't ... erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [244] I wonder how his foot is actually.
Tony (PS0V4) [245] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [246] I wonder if he's been to the doctors with it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [247] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [248] I don't expect so, no.
Rene (PS0V7) [249] [...] like that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [250] It's about that long ... and it
Rene (PS0V7) [251] and it
Jackie (PS0V5) [252] just came up over night ... till we found out in the morning ... well you can see it can't you ... Oh you ... did you see it? ... the swelling on your dad's foot.
Tony (PS0V4) [253] Yeah ... yeah I did.
Rene (PS0V7) [254] If I had a swelling like that come up on my ankle I'd ... say right go to the doctors.
Jackie (PS0V5) [255] Just one more and I'll do just have a quick look round the outside see if they're here.
Tony (PS0V4) [256] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [257] I really enjoyed my day off today [...] ... [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [258] Lets face it theirs wasn't [...] to pick from ... should say ... really miserable.
Rene (PS0V7) [259] I expect she was worried.
Jackie (PS0V5) [260] No
Christine (PS0V6) [261] No not worried ... she said you walk in, you get changed, and you sit back and that's it, silence.
Tony (PS0V4) [262] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [263] Nobody speaks.
Tony (PS0V4) [264] Mm ... Can I have a few more ... thank you. [paper rustling]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [265] What?
[266] ... Oh okay ... I'll set a little game.
Christine (PS0V6) [267] Will you?
Tony (PS0V4) [268] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [269] I liked it knowing what I want.
Christine (PS0V6) [270] No it's horrible cos you just sit down an ... that's it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [271] It was a good idea taking your own dressing gown though wasn't it?
Christine (PS0V6) [272] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [273] There was one girl there today, she was about fifteen or seventeen ... and she had to put her coat on over the top of the gown because it was
Tony (PS0V4) [274] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [275] all open down the back and you had to walk out through a huge waiting room full of people.
Rene (PS0V7) [276] Well that's bad isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [277] That's awful isn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [278] Yeah ... mm.
Rene (PS0V7) [279] Would they lend you a dressing gown?
Jackie (PS0V5) [280] Well normally they'd given them dressing gowns before but it's the first time they've had gowns isn't it?
[281] ... White gowns.
Christine (PS0V6) [282] Yeah they had gowns before and that's what, remember? ... [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [283] Oh yeah, that's right you had to hold yours up together as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [284] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [285] Don't go in there ... and that could have gone down my whole body as I was walking through everything ... keeps falling off.
Jackie (PS0V5) [286] Just think that's going to pick up all your tummy gurglings [laugh] ... gurgle gurgle [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [287] Do you think we could have a listen to this?
Tony (PS0V4) [288] Well ... the only way you can listen to it
Christine (PS0V6) [289] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [290] Is on the headphones.
Christine (PS0V6) [291] Couldn't you stick them on me?
Rene (PS0V7) [292] How long will one of those tapes last then, Tony?
Tony (PS0V4) [293] Forty five minutes ... well each side is forty five minutes.
Rene (PS0V7) [294] And [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [295] Well ... I don't know but it's still going. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [296] There's a tape counter on it.
Tony (PS0V4) [297] Sorry?
Jackie (PS0V5) [298] There's a tape counter on it.
Tony (PS0V4) [299] Oh it just gives the numbers though.
Rene (PS0V7) [300] Do you just clip that on your trousers?
Tony (PS0V4) [301] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [302] You'll have to watch it don't come off then, when you get in the car.
Tony (PS0V4) [303] Yeah ... yeah I will ... let's see here we ... what are we recording?
Christine (PS0V6) [304] Gran what was it you wanted?
Rene (PS0V7) [305] I'm coming out.

4 (Tape 010204)

Tony (PS0V4) [306] Erm ... oh what was it?
Christine (PS0V6) [307] Mum [...] colour
Tony (PS0V4) [308] That's right.
Christine (PS0V6) [309] I was [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [310] Ah that's a shame
Christine (PS0V6) [311] Mm ... yeah, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [312] Don't like practical
Christine (PS0V6) [313] No, I [...] , I [...] mm mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [314] Why don't you like practical?
Christine (PS0V6) [315] Well I like it but ... got to use booklet an I erm supposed to hand it in you see ... [...] ha ... I'm going to hand it in next week.
Tony (PS0V4) [316] Okay.
Christine (PS0V6) [317] Mm, I can't stop munching these.
Tony (PS0V4) [318] No they're er ... they're good aren't they ... they're nice.
Christine (PS0V6) [319] Mm ... I prefer these things to biscuits.
Tony (PS0V4) [320] Yep ... I think you're probably right.
Christine (PS0V6) [321] Cos they're softer.
Tony (PS0V4) [322] No.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [323] Just trying to find a place that's a bit more comfortable for you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [324] [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [325] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [326] No musical today?
Christine (PS0V6) [327] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [328] I think probably [...] ... Tony, do you want to take one of these letters before we go out?
Tony (PS0V4) [329] Yes please.
Christine (PS0V6) [330] [...] English.
Tony (PS0V4) [331] What is it called Mushroom Treasury?
Jackie (PS0V5) [332] you're you're you're you're a National Treasury in spoken English .
Christine (PS0V6) [333] Dad, mind you don't put your
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [334] jumper over it ... does that little there [...] that flashes and it get really big.
Tony (PS0V4) [335] What little thing?
Christine (PS0V6) [336] The little light on [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [337] Do you want me to do that?
[338] ... No.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [339] Is it there?
Jackie (PS0V5) [340] Yeah ... no it is.
Tony (PS0V4) [341] Alright?
Jackie (PS0V5) [342] There you go.
Tony (PS0V4) [343] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [344] Wired for action.
Tony (PS0V4) [345] [laugh] ... Oh dear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [346] Is it still recording?
Tony (PS0V4) [347] Yeah ... well I don't see any point in starting and stopping really ... Have you got the
Rene (PS0V7) [348] You got it there
Jackie (PS0V5) [349] Twenty tapes to get through we'll need to get going. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [350] Yeah ... I'll take
Rene (PS0V7) [351] When's he coming back to pick it up?
Jackie (PS0V5) [352] Next Friday night.
Rene (PS0V7) [353] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [354] Ooh
Jackie (PS0V5) [355] I've got to pop upstairs a minute.
Rene (PS0V7) [356] Erm
Tony (PS0V4) [357] Okay.
Rene (PS0V7) [358] you got the shopping bags?
Jackie (PS0V5) [359] No I'll get those ... can you ... do me a favour and put those boxes underneath
Tony (PS0V4) [360] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [361] I've got to er
Tony (PS0V4) [362] Well if, okay
Jackie (PS0V5) [363] [...] after lunch.
Rene (PS0V7) [364] [laugh] You're mad then ... Polly's gone upstairs with Jacqueline then.
Christine (PS0V6) [365] Oh hell.
Tony (PS0V4) [366] Okay.
Christine (PS0V6) [367] Right you take these to [...] alright? ... and nappy bags, ooh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [368] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [369] I've got the shopping bags.
Christine (PS0V6) [370] Oh thank you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [371] Here.
Tony (PS0V4) [372] An I put my er ... wallet in your handbag.
Jackie (PS0V5) [373] Yeah ... oops ... You nearly had a head full of [...] didn't you Ben?
Tony (PS0V4) [374] [shouting] Ben! []
[375] ... Come on, in your box ... there's a good boy ... now stay ... good boy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [376] I take [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [377] Yeah ... it's alright I drew the cash.
Jackie (PS0V5) [378] Yeah, but we're gonna see if we can get you a pair of shoes aren't we?
[379] ... Yes, we are gonna see if we can get you a pair of shoes ... Do you want some shoes [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [380] They're alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [381] Do they look alright?
Tony (PS0V4) [382] They just let in water
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [383] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [384] Come here Chrissie ... Your Daddy's got you collared.
Christine (PS0V6) [385] It's alright ... look ... if we ... if its nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [386] Where the hell did you get that one from.
Rene (PS0V7) [387] London?
Christine (PS0V6) [388] No the whole terrace [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [389] You got your collar all
Jackie (PS0V5) [390] it's all colour, you need lots of it ... the age of the hippy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [391] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [392] Mum ... can you sort my collar out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [393] Come here then.
Christine (PS0V6) [394] I don't like that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [395] Turn it round.
Christine (PS0V6) [396] Come on Daddy.
Rene (PS0V7) [397] He's doing his shoes up.
Tony (PS0V4) [398] I'm trying to hurry.
Christine (PS0V6) [399] Come on.
Jackie (PS0V5) [400] Did you do those videos.
Tony (PS0V4) [401] Yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [402] Oh great.
Tony (PS0V4) [403] Erm ...
Christine (PS0V6) [404] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [405] Oh yeah ... [...] notice you didn't know you had them until we clear out the wardrobe.
Christine (PS0V6) [406] No I didn't know I had these things.
Rene (PS0V7) [407] So you're [...] , oh that's your wool hat.
Tony (PS0V4) [408] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [409] Mum I didn't know I had them.
Rene (PS0V7) [410] Your Dad still [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [411] The, yeah ... the leather, the [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [412] Smells terrible.
Christine (PS0V6) [...] [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [413] I haven't got my keys ... I'll go and get them.
Jackie (PS0V5) [414] No, it's alright I've just put mine away.
Tony (PS0V4) [415] No ... erm car keys.
Jackie (PS0V5) [416] Oh ... Tony if I leave my seat in [...] will you lock the door?
Tony (PS0V4) [417] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [418] Or have you got my bag then.
Tony (PS0V4) [419] I've got my house keys.
Jackie (PS0V5) [420] Oh yeah ... shopping bags?
[421] ... Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [422] Here are.
Jackie (PS0V5) [423] Thank you ... I'm hopeless.
Christine (PS0V6) [424] I know ... come on then.
Tony (PS0V4) [425] Oh I'll leave that one up.

5 (Tape 010205)

Christine (PS0V6) [426] Grandma will turn on the radio?
Rene (PS0V7) [427] Wait a minute.
Jackie (PS0V5) [428] No, leave it off Christine.
Rene (PS0V7) [429] Got your lights on.
Jackie (PS0V5) [430] No we're not even away yet.
Rene (PS0V7) [431] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [432] I'm putting my belt on.
Rene (PS0V7) [433] Thanks for taking me down anyway.
Jackie (PS0V5) [434] Oh that's no trouble ... it's practically on the way so
Rene (PS0V7) [435] I'm keeping your seat warm for you Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [436] Okay.
Rene (PS0V7) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [437] If things had turned out differently I'd been driving you down here.
Jackie (PS0V5) [438] Ah ... never mind ... it won't be long.
Tony (PS0V4) [439] No it won't be long ... saying that a year ago. [laugh]
Rene (PS0V7) [440] I think half of its nerves.
Tony (PS0V4) [441] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [442] It's all nerves.
Rene (PS0V7) [443] It's like you the first time weren't it.
Tony (PS0V4) [444] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [445] Oh come on ... don't play me up, we'll have to check this.
Rene (PS0V7) [446] Got a bit cold have you Jack?
Jackie (PS0V5) [447] Yeah ... cold and damp that's the two things that it doesn't like.

6 (Tape 010206)

Jackie (PS0V5) [448] No, it's not I thought it was a bit thin. [laugh]
Rene (PS0V7) [449] Ah mm ... Oh she thinks she's nice and thin ... Thank you very much.
Tony (PS0V4) [450] Your welcome.
Jackie (PS0V5) [451] Okay.
Rene (PS0V7) [452] I'll see you tomorrow night then?
Jackie (PS0V5) [453] Okay then.
Rene (PS0V7) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [454] Yeah ... worst luck.
Rene (PS0V7) [455] Cheerio ... cheerio Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [456] Bye.
Jackie (PS0V5) [457] Bye.
[458] ... Bye.
Rene (PS0V7) [459] Oh cr
Christine (PS0V6) [460] Mum, would you just sit up there with the bike ... like a twist bike.
Tony (PS0V4) [461] Hurry up.
Christine (PS0V6) [462] Put the radio on now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [463] Can I put the radio on?
Tony (PS0V4) [464] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [465] I think a lot of it was to do with the fact that I'd never driven in the dark before.
Jackie (PS0V5) [466] Well yeah, it's bound to throw you, I mean its
Tony (PS0V4) [467] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [468] it's the first time you drove in the dark was on your driving test ... wasn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [469] Yeah ... I must admit I think that a little bit erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [470] It was unfortunate
Tony (PS0V4) [471] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [472] but it was [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [473] I suppose I could have er ... looking at
Jackie (PS0V5) [474] Was it as dark as this? ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [475] By the time I'd finished, yes ... it was pitch dark.
Jackie (PS0V5) [476] Well the only thing you can do is hopefully your next test isn't at the same time ... make it a
Tony (PS0V4) [477] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [478] different time.
Tony (PS0V4) [479] But in any event it would be a good idea if I had some tests ... some lessons in the dark.
Jackie (PS0V5) [480] Might be ... I mean ask Brian, see
Tony (PS0V4) [481] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [482] what he can do because
Tony (PS0V4) [483] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [484] I mean I knew ... the first day I drove in the dark was the first night we had the car and it was most odd experience
Tony (PS0V4) [485] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [486] I mean ... first day
Tony (PS0V4) [487] I found it
Jackie (PS0V5) [488] driving a brand new car and then
Tony (PS0V4) [489] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [490] driving in the dark for the first time, ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [491] Yeah ... I'd find it quite difficult ... well I could see the headlights ... coming up ... and I was thinking ... now how fast is that car coming up ... I don't really know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [492] Yeah ... and the thing is also being ... new to driving you tend to look at the headlights rather than look away from them.
Tony (PS0V4) [493] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [494] And that doesn't help because ... I don't know, it wasn't, I don't think you'd find it was as dark as this.
Tony (PS0V4) [495] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [496] Not at four o' clock, its not quite that dark at
Tony (PS0V4) [cough]
Jackie (PS0V5) [497] half past, yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [498] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [499] but not this dark at four, not yet.
Tony (PS0V4) [500] Well he had to switch on the interior light to be able to fill out the form.
Jackie (PS0V5) [501] Oh yeah, it's pretty dark but not
Tony (PS0V4) [502] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [503] it's not black like this.
Tony (PS0V4) [504] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [505] Are you, what are you doing tomorrow, are you coming in with me?
Tony (PS0V4) [506] Erm ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [507] Friday.
Tony (PS0V4) [508] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [509] Good.
Tony (PS0V4) [510] I'm coming with you ... I've got to do er ... I've gotta do some prep
Jackie (PS0V5) [511] it's nice to have someone to talk to.
Tony (PS0V4) [512] [laugh] ... Yeah, but you may be recorded.
Jackie (PS0V5) [513] [...] I don't care.
Tony (PS0V4) [514] [laugh] ... Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [515] Nice chap.
Tony (PS0V4) [516] Where did he come from?
Jackie (PS0V5) [517] He came out of the Harvester but it would have been nice if he'd waited [laughing] for there to be a gap in the traffic [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [518] [laugh] ... Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [519] If you see what I mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [520] Yeah ... Oh he wasn't gonna wait
Jackie (PS0V5) [521] [...] . [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [522] either. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [523] Oh dear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [524] Ah ... it's gonna be one of those nights tonight [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [525] Yeah I think so ... I must admit from one point of view ... I'm quite glad that I ... haven't ... passed ... cos
Jackie (PS0V5) [526] Why?
Tony (PS0V4) [527] it's a bad ... as you said it's a bad time to start driving now there's an awful lot of
Jackie (PS0V5) [528] Idiots come out.
Tony (PS0V4) [529] idiots on the road ... especially coming
Jackie (PS0V5) [530] last
Tony (PS0V4) [531] up to Christmas
Jackie (PS0V5) [532] Yeah, last Christmas was a real eye opener to me, cos the Christmas before
Tony (PS0V4) [533] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [534] I didn't drive very much cos my Dad was still so bad I only did
Tony (PS0V4) [535] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [536] the essential journeys
Tony (PS0V4) [537] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [538] and I mean I then I'd only just had my operation an ... and to actually ... drive ... for longer than about ... twenty minute journeys was killing ... so
Tony (PS0V4) [539] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [540] I only drove over to to do the shopping and to pick Christine up from School.
Tony (PS0V4) [541] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [542] That was all.
Tony (PS0V4) [543] Yeah you're right I look at the headlights.
Jackie (PS0V5) [544] Yeah you must do you see you've got to
Tony (PS0V4) [545] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [546] look ... if you've got to concentrate on anything, concentrate on the white line or
Tony (PS0V4) [547] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [548] the kerb ... certainly the white line if you can
Tony (PS0V4) [549] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [550] cos if you concentrate on the kerb you tend to drive a bit too close to it
Tony (PS0V4) [551] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [552] and also it's not always there for you to see easily
Tony (PS0V4) [553] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [554] whereas the white line is ... But if you look into the headlights it can be ... not dark ... erm but ... it appears to be dark because
Tony (PS0V4) [555] Well your pupils re erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [556] they react into the headlights.
Tony (PS0V4) [557] react into the headlights, yeah ... so it makes it seem darker.
Jackie (PS0V5) [558] And you've gotta be careful as well at night not to hang on to the tail lights of the thing in from of you
Tony (PS0V4) [559] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [560] cos it's very easy to do it because they're two little red beacons
Tony (PS0V4) [561] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [562] you know you've still got to look ahead
Tony (PS0V4) [563] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [564] and concentrate on what's happening
Tony (PS0V4) [565] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [566] further up the road.
Tony (PS0V4) [567] There was one point during my test when I was driving along and erm ... the I was creeping forward in a stream of traffic and the person in front of me had crossed the solid white line at some traffic lights ... and the lights changed and it would have been very easy to follow his lights and just carry on
Jackie (PS0V5) [568] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [569] but I didn't I stopped [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [570] But you see it every day ... I mean
Tony (PS0V4) [571] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [572] You know I've had it happen the lights have changed just as I've been crossing them so I've gone over and three cars immediately behind me have followed me.
Tony (PS0V4) [573] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [574] We're gonna have to get a tyre gauge I reckon ... they've got a new depth of tread ... one point six millimetres which is bigger than the.

7 (Tape 010207)

Jackie (PS0V5) [575] Now he's gonna be sneaky now [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [576] [laugh] ... No the only thing that consumed me I was looking to see if there was anyway ... that material from the seat could be used to sort of target us for a mailing system or something like that
Jackie (PS0V5) [577] No but it can't
Tony (PS0V4) [578] Not ... not if they stick by th what they've said
Jackie (PS0V5) [579] Yes and it's more than they [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [580] Well yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [581] We even know where it came from.
Tony (PS0V4) [582] Yes ... that's right ... He was travelling wasn't he?
Jackie (PS0V5) [583] Well on the wrong side of the road as well just a bit rather nutty.
Tony (PS0V4) [584] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [585] Are we gonna have another go at Christine's bedroom this weekend?
Tony (PS0V4) [586] Could do, yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [587] Do you want to see if we can finish it Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [588] Yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [589] How about if we went out and bought the desk ... erm
Christine (PS0V6) [590] Yes ... yes Mummy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [591] Now wait ... erm Saturday?
Tony (PS0V4) [592] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [593] Only we I don't, I don't know about you but I don't want to leave it until the last minute
Tony (PS0V4) [594] No ... No
Jackie (PS0V5) [595] I'd rather
Christine (PS0V6) [596] Mum.
Jackie (PS0V5) [597] We're gonna have to take these for Christmas shopping.
Christine (PS0V6) [598] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [599] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [600] Well ... we've got to finish sorting it out Chris cos there's still too much stuff ... for once it's
Christine (PS0V6) [601] Can I
Jackie (PS0V5) [602] when it's completely sorted out Chrissie ... erm ... oh I don't really know what to say, she's having this desk for Christmas
Tony (PS0V4) [603] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [604] once her bedroom is sorted oh well, well we'll have a talk about it later on okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [605] It's whether we put the desk in the room.
Jackie (PS0V5) [606] It's whether we do it now and we let her have it before
Tony (PS0V4) [607] Mhm ... and then she'll feel she's not had anything for Christmas.
Christine (PS0V6) [608] No I won't.
Tony (PS0V4) [609] Well ... this or
Christine (PS0V6) [610] Find a cheaper one.
Tony (PS0V4) [611] We'll have a think through.
Jackie (PS0V5) [612] Well she'll still get her ch her stocking and
Tony (PS0V4) [613] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [614] a voucher for Christmas.
Tony (PS0V4) [615] Yeah ... and she'll have other things to open on Christmas day won't she.
Jackie (PS0V5) [616] Yes, I don't think she's going to be short, do you?
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [617] A bit like with the keyboards isn't it ... two keyboards for a birthday present.
Jackie (PS0V5) [618] The thing the desk you can use ... once we've got your bedroom sorted out
Christine (PS0V6) [619] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [620] but Christine it's gonna be ... arranging that desk is gonna take a whole er oh ... arranging the bedroom is gonna take a whole day ... cos you're wardrobe is too heavy to move on it's own it's got to be taken apart
Christine (PS0V6) [621] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [622] Okay?
Christine (PS0V6) [623] I really want it in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [624] But it's gonna take a long time, it's not gonna be a ... quick half hour job
Christine (PS0V6) [625] Yeah ... It's gonna involve a lot of moving as well
Jackie (PS0V5) [626] Well no not ... the heaviest thing is your wardrobe
Christine (PS0V6) [627] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [628] and that's gotta be taken apart right?
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [629] And the bed will slide to one end.
Christine (PS0V6) [630] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [631] Everything's got to be sorted out I think her pram and ... her other desk is gonna have to go up in the
Christine (PS0V6) [632] Mummy?
Jackie (PS0V5) [633] Yes.
Christine (PS0V6) [634] Mummy, there's one thing I don't like though
Jackie (PS0V5) [635] What's that?
Christine (PS0V6) [636] Gonna have [...] ages
Jackie (PS0V5) [637] Well I think I might be able to sort that out a lot of it will be underneath your
Christine (PS0V6) [638] You know where [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [639] well some of
Tony (PS0V4) [640] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [641] it will covered up in any case.
Christine (PS0V6) [642] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [643] It's alright, I'm just ... going up one [...] up here.
Tony (PS0V4) [644] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [645] That place where your wardrobe is
Christine (PS0V6) [646] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [647] erm ... will be covered up by your bed
Christine (PS0V6) [648] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [649] and the place where two of th
Christine (PS0V6) [650] It's not my wardrobe so much, it's my bed ... my bed
Jackie (PS0V5) [651] Yeah, but
Christine (PS0V6) [652] is at one end
Jackie (PS0V5) [653] Well I've ... heard of a tip ... whether it works or not I don't know ... so we'll try it and see ... that's all
Christine (PS0V6) [654] Alright, what's that
Jackie (PS0V5) [655] we can do ... she put an ice cube on the ... splodge ... let it melt and when it drys out the carpet comes up again but I don't know if it'll work but it can't do any harm, can it?
Christine (PS0V6) [656] No, just might be quite a bit wet.
Jackie (PS0V5) [657] Be a [...] daughter.
Tony (PS0V4) [658] Oh god.
Jackie (PS0V5) [659] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [660] [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [661] What's that?
Jackie (PS0V5) [662] This thing
Tony (PS0V4) [663] The
Jackie (PS0V5) [664] that you we're playing with this morning and you didn't put it in properly.
Christine (PS0V6) [665] Yeah, [...] and rubbing it all down the window with my cardi.
Jackie (PS0V5) [666] Yeah.
[667] ... I've spoken, don't do that any more!
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [668] Squeak.
Jackie (PS0V5) [669] Don't do that any more.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [670] Can't wait to get this bedroom sorted out [...] ... Do think I could have my desk [...] ?
Jackie (PS0V5) [671] I think so there's not much point in ... keeping it in it's box is there
Christine (PS0V6) [672] No, it's gonna put to good use
Tony (PS0V4) [673] What do you think?
[674] ... Tony?
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [675] Yeah, okay but we'll have to do it when we've got time
Jackie (PS0V5) [676] Don't
Tony (PS0V4) [677] and that might be ... shortly before Christmas anyway.
Jackie (PS0V5) [678] Okay?
Christine (PS0V6) [679] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [680] It's only another three, four weeks to Christmas now in any case.
Tony (PS0V4) [681] You might have to wait until we're act
Jackie (PS0V5) [682] She's been a bit sick.
Tony (PS0V4) [683] Oh ... you might have to fit ... you might have to fix ... you might have to wait until we've got ... time off over Christmas before we do it, anyway.
Christine (PS0V6) [684] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [685] Cos we've only got Sundays ... and this Sunday
Christine (PS0V6) [686] I tell you what I'd love now
Jackie (PS0V5) [687] we're gonna be clearing out those, thank you ... the rest
Christine (PS0V6) [688] Dad.
Jackie (PS0V5) [689] of your ... bedroom ... Sunday after probably Grandma will be coming up
Christine (PS0V6) [690] Yeah ... Daddy?
Tony (PS0V4) [691] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [692] What I want to do ... up our steps on the twentieth of December
Tony (PS0V4) [693] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [694] [...] I want to come home I want to go up to my bedroom and get on with [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [695] Well you'll have your bedroom will be totally different, it will be
Christine (PS0V6) [696] I know.
Tony (PS0V4) [697] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [698] Brilliant.
Jackie (PS0V5) [699] much more grown up.
Christine (PS0V6) [700] My desk will be there and my dungarees will be there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [701] I think though, your lamp you're gonna have to wait for your lamp because that's ... but you can have your desk
Christine (PS0V6) [702] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [703] and we'll Grandma about the chair, but I can't see her saying no
Christine (PS0V6) [704] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [705] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [706] cos Grandma buying you you're chair isn't she.
Christine (PS0V6) [707] Yeah, I know but I ... can't really do [...] can I ... I have to get the stool from downstairs.
Jackie (PS0V5) [708] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [709] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [710] I think Grandma will agree.
Christine (PS0V6) [711] No, she won't.
Jackie (PS0V5) [712] Oh I didn't ask your Mum if she wanted any ... sweet and sour ... is he stopping, going?
Tony (PS0V4) [713] Ha, ha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [714] Stopping.
Tony (PS0V4) [715] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [716] I must pump up these tyres [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [717] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [laughing] [...] []
Tony (PS0V4) [718] Well I'll have to do it over the weekend.
Jackie (PS0V5) [719] Yeah and the car needs a wash as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [720] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [721] Look at that man sitting there [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [722] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [723] Sit back.
Tony (PS0V4) [724] There's Dad.
Jackie (PS0V5) [725] Oh there's Grampy.
Tony (PS0V4) [726] Erm I'll stop this a minute.

8 (Tape 010208)

Jackie (PS0V5) [727] Tony's wired for action [laugh] .
Mum (PS0V8) [728] [laughing] Oh yeah []
Tony (PS0V4) [729] It's got a little microphone out there ... you alright you got the bags.
Christine (PS0V6) [730] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [731] Right.
Christine (PS0V6) [732] They're gonna be thinking ... Nanny come on take it down.
Mum (PS0V8) [733] Oh do I do I take our.
Tony (PS0V4) [734] Yeah, Yeah you take
Mum (PS0V8) [735] take our er friend in there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [736] Oh it'll be alright, yeah. [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [737] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [738] We what?
Jackie (PS0V5) [739] Have you got the letter ... the [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [740] Oh ... yeah ah I
Christine (PS0V6) [741] Daddy?
Tony (PS0V4) [742] haven't got the letter it's in the car.
Christine (PS0V6) [743] Daddy ... they're gonna be saying Anneka Rice?
[744] ... Where's her film crew?
[745] [laugh] ... Imagine saying that
Jackie (PS0V5) [746] [laugh] ... I don't think Daddy's got the legs
Tony (PS0V4) [747] I don't think, I don't think I'm quite that shape.
Jackie (PS0V5) [748] [laughing] No [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [749] Erm
Mum (PS0V8) [750] I don't think Daddy's got the energy to ... to to run all round Tesco's either.
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [751] Oh I don't know ... Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [752] Asking them to donate.
Jackie (PS0V5) [753] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [754] On ... I had a half day on Wednesday
Mum (PS0V8) [755] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [756] took my driving test
Mum (PS0V8) [757] Did you?
Tony (PS0V4) [758] And I
Mum (PS0V8) [759] Ah.
Tony (PS0V4) [760] failed. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [761] You know the result.
Mum (PS0V8) [762] Yeah ... ah ... what a shame.
Tony (PS0V4) [763] Otherwise I'd have been driving tonight
Mum (PS0V8) [764] Yeah?
[765] ... Ah ... on much?
Tony (PS0V4) [766] Erm ... but er ... no not a lot, not a lot
Mum (PS0V8) [767] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [768] erm use of erm ... use of clutch of and gears was a bit needed some more work
Mum (PS0V8) [769] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [770] I er ended up ... I I coasted round a corner which is something you shouldn't do
Mum (PS0V8) [771] Aha.
Tony (PS0V4) [772] Erm ... and I sli I yo ... pulled me up to one corner and I know it's really nasty
Mum (PS0V8) [773] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [774] Erm so I slowed right down ... and then was criticized cos I over sl cos I slowed down too much.
Mum (PS0V8) [775] Ah.
Tony (PS0V4) [776] I knew it was a really tight corner and so I slowed right down and was criticized for it, ha.

9 (Tape 010209)

Jackie (PS0V5) [777] I think you might like more what's round the other side.
Tony (PS0V4) [778] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [779] Are you gonna get one with some little tassels on then Dad?
Tony (PS0V4) [780] I don't know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [781] Cos you're best ones are like that aren't they?
Tony (PS0V4) [782] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [783] What a [...] ... ooh.
Tony (PS0V4) [784] Ooh ... ooh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [785] Mummy ... Mum [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [786] Leave ... yes.
Christine (PS0V6) [787] Thank you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [788] Comfy.
Christine (PS0V6) [789] Look.
Tony (PS0V4) [790] Mm ... that's a nine ... feel the inside of that
Jackie (PS0V5) [791] Ooh
Tony (PS0V4) [792] It'll be ideal for work
Jackie (PS0V5) [793] and the sole goes right up over there so you're not
Tony (PS0V4) [794] Mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [795] gonna lose a bit off the front.
Tony (PS0V4) [796] [laugh] ... What is it ... what's it made of?
Jackie (PS0V5) [797] Leather ... I can see that
Tony (PS0V4) [798] Is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [799] Leather upper manmade lining and sole.
Tony (PS0V4) [800] Oh that's okay ... How much are they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [801] Seventeen ninety nine
Tony (PS0V4) [802] Mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [803] Better than the [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [804] That's not bad ... what are those? ... cheaper [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [805] Look it's not the cheap that you're looking for.
Tony (PS0V4) [806] Don't like them
Jackie (PS0V5) [807] No, neither do I.
Tony (PS0V4) [808] to be quite honest.
Jackie (PS0V5) [809] Let's looking you're looking for comfortable shoes aren't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [810] They're smart, they're a bit I don't like those ... they go slippy slidey all over the place with those ... but these are nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [811] It's a shame they don't do the grey ones in black cos they looked comfortable as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [812] Those?
[813] ... Yeah ... they do
Jackie (PS0V5) [814] Sorry?
Tony (PS0V4) [815] Yeah they look ... they do look comfortable but
Jackie (PS0V5) [816] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [817] I mean I don't have to wear black shoes but ... they do suit
Jackie (PS0V5) [818] I think I've put my foot in it don't you?
Mum (PS0V8) [819] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [820] Why's that?
[821] ... Mm?
Jackie (PS0V5) [822] When I said oh gosh [...] personally.
Tony (PS0V4) [823] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [824] I mean he doesn't know the [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [825] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [826] he's only had them
Tony (PS0V4) [827] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [828] for a few months.
Tony (PS0V4) [829] That's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [830] Stupid.
Tony (PS0V4) [831] Yep ... I agree ... erm ... I'd better try them on hadn't I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [832] Try them on, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [833] I hate this [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [834] Erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [835] I'll hold on to you dear. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [836] I do need a new pair of shoes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [837] You desperately need a new pair of shoes.
Tony (PS0V4) [838] Certainly ... oop er ... ooh
Jackie (PS0V5) [839] Do they feel good?
Tony (PS0V4) [840] That's a nine ... have they got
Jackie (PS0V5) [841] A ten?
Tony (PS0V4) [842] a ten
Jackie (PS0V5) [843] I could ask the girl to see for you.
Tony (PS0V4) [844] I'm not ... it's just that my fe ... ah but they're not laced up are they?
[845] ... Ah now that's better ... only it felt as if my
Jackie (PS0V5) [846] and they will give a bit
Tony (PS0V4) [847] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [848] but they're leather.
Tony (PS0V4) [849] Yeah, they're quite soft anyway ... it just felt as if they were sort of my toes were sort of jammed up against the end ... but
Jackie (PS0V5) [850] How do they feel now?
Tony (PS0V4) [851] Ah ... I mean they will soften anyway and they are comfortable ... it's just that the sides are a bit rigid at the moment but then they're bound to be ... and they will give.
Jackie (PS0V5) [852] Yeah ... well tha that's the nice thing about having leather shoes
Tony (PS0V4) [853] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [854] if you sort of go to fit you sl
Tony (PS0V4) [855] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [856] slightly ... I mean if they're uncomfortable don't have them.
Tony (PS0V4) [857] No they're not uncomfortable ... ah ... get the other shoe off ... oop ... mm ... just ... there
Jackie (PS0V5) [858] Do the lace up a little bit more
Tony (PS0V4) [859] they're rather narrow ... just there ... no ... I'm sorry they're too narrow ... they're really st ... tight across there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [860] Well that's no good then is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [861] I my my little toe is
Jackie (PS0V5) [862] [...] are comfortable.
Tony (PS0V4) [863] They are yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [864] Do you like your best shoes? ... but those look wider across the toes.
Tony (PS0V4) [865] No, no those are too narrow ... I'm getting fussy in my old age perhaps but
Jackie (PS0V5) [866] No it's not fussy i i if they're not comfortable you're gonna have problems with your feet
Tony (PS0V4) [867] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [868] and that's silly.
Tony (PS0V4) [869] Oh no those are fine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [870] Those ones?
Tony (PS0V4) [871] Those are really fine ... apart from the fact that it's the wrong foot ... ha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [872] Oh hang on ... no that's two ... they're it's two right foot
Jackie (PS0V5) [873] What size was it again?
Tony (PS0V4) [874] Nine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [875] What are those ... eight? ... nine ... is that the other one.
Tony (PS0V4) [876] Yeah ... yeah those are fine ... those were comfortable
Jackie (PS0V5) [877] Were they slippy when you walked ... have a little walk [...] ... I liked them with laces.
Tony (PS0V4) [878] Mm ... no they're they're fine ... and they they would be nice for sort of best shoes wouldn't they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [879] Well you could have a look at your best ones and decide which ones you want to keep for best.
Tony (PS0V4) [880] Mm ... yeah ... how much are they.?
Jackie (PS0V5) [881] I don't know, it doesn't matter.
Tony (PS0V4) [882] [laugh] ... Yes it does.
Jackie (PS0V5) [883] There's no price on them so it doesn't matter ... there isn't a price on any of them so ... oh we'll [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [884] Seventeen ninety nine ... that's okay then ... if it's alright with you it's alright with me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [885] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [886] I know I'll end up with two pairs of shoes similar but
Jackie (PS0V5) [887] Well it's up to you if you want them to s ... shall I see if I can find a girl ... and you might try a size ten in the other ones ... would you like me
Tony (PS0V4) [888] No ... I'll tell you why ... it's not the fact that they ... they fit but they're too narrow ... if
Jackie (PS0V5) [889] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [890] I went for a size ten ... it would be too big do you see what I mean ... whereas those fit ... okay?
Jackie (PS0V5) [891] Yep.
Tony (PS0V4) [892] Oh well ... it's gonna be another forty five minutes [...] ... I must admit I have sympathy for the people who are going to listen to this.
Jackie (PS0V5) [893] Yeah so have I, it must be boring.
Tony (PS0V4) [894] Must be really boring.
Jackie (PS0V5) [895] To actually go through it a bit at a time ... I mean the majority of it is fine [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [896] Mm ... [...] was quite a hard ... hard part of the sample to find [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [897] Do you know what [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [898] The ... unemployed person within ... between thirty five and forty five
Jackie (PS0V5) [899] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [900] is quite hard to find one around our estate [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [901] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [902] A lot of the people are over employed.
Mum (PS0V8) [903] One cabbage ... give your pet rabbit for the [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [904] His Dad's foot, he's still limping isn't he?
Mum (PS0V8) [905] Yeah, he's not as bad though ... a lot better
Tony (PS0V4) [906] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [907] yeah ... it's a lot better.
Jackie (PS0V5) [908] Cos I noticed when we were there and it just collapsed he couldn't walk a lot.
Mum (PS0V8) [909] No, no it's a lot better ... than what it was ... he went to the doctor and the doctor said [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [910] Really?
Mum (PS0V8) [911] Yes ... She went up [laughing] and I [...] [] ... it's smaller ... it's ... it's soft
Jackie (PS0V5) [912] Oh stupid you've got
Mum (PS0V8) [913] and then
Jackie (PS0V5) [914] no hard skin there
Mum (PS0V8) [915] no ... he thinks doctors have got [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [916] Oh ... wait a minute the doctor shouldn't have seen it then should he?
Mum (PS0V8) [917] [...] ... Gotta a get any damsons today?
[918] ... Gotta get any apples today?
Jackie (PS0V5) [919] No I've ... we've got some at home ... I got some ... erm
Mum (PS0V8) [920] Oh yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [921] I got two big plastic
Mum (PS0V8) [922] Oh ... that's a lot.
Christine (PS0V6) [923] Daddy?
Tony (PS0V4) [924] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [925] So you said she started to grow sesame herbs.
Mum (PS0V8) [926] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [927] What you want to do is [...] and said probably again nine months after
Mum (PS0V8) [928] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [929] then I could start [...] and you don't get any [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [930] Oh great ... how many could he do?
Jackie (PS0V5) [931] Don't start Chris!
Mum (PS0V8) [932] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [933] Don't start!
Mum (PS0V8) [934] [...] ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [935] [...] and send it to [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [936] That's great.
Jackie (PS0V5) [937] so ... with a bit of luck we won't have to go
Tony (PS0V4) [938] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [939] any more.
Tony (PS0V4) [940] Yeah ... Dot was telling me how erm ... they had somebody ... with th erm ... similar problem but more pronounced
Jackie (PS0V5) [941] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [942] and they actually failed ... there erm ... her riding test because they weren't sitting straight on the horse.
Jackie (PS0V5) [943] Yeah ... yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [944] And the reason why they weren't sitting straight is because one shoulder was higher than the other.
Mum (PS0V8) [945] Ah yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [946] One of my shoulders [...] is like higher than the other.
Jackie (PS0V5) [947] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [948] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [949] Your lucky didn't they say yours were very narrow [...] never mind you can go along and enter again.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [950] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [951] Grandma? ... come here ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [952] Ha ha.
Mum (PS0V8) [953] I'll make [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [954] If you wanna ... me to turn it off at anytime ... just say.
Jackie (PS0V5) [955] I just wonder how it's gonna come out ... with all the background noise, I wonder whether
Tony (PS0V4) [956] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [957] it's gonna be ... worth
Tony (PS0V4) [958] Well
Jackie (PS0V5) [959] them having.
Tony (PS0V4) [960] yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [961] That's all.
Tony (PS0V4) [962] it's not my problem I'm afraid.
Jackie (PS0V5) [963] No ... well it's not but ... trying to say
Tony (PS0V4) [964] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [965] Do we need any bin liners?
[966] ... I bought some ... last week didn't I Chris?
[967] ... Have the bin liners ... we got enough black bags ... yes we've got
Tony (PS0V4) [968] We've got enough black bags.
Jackie (PS0V5) [969] yeah cos I over
Tony (PS0V4) [970] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [971] What you doing [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [972] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [973] What do you think?
Christine (PS0V6) [974] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [975] She's being a vandal.
Christine (PS0V6) [976] Cut all this that's going on tape.
Tony (PS0V4) [977] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [978] Oh yes ... [...] a vandal.
Christine (PS0V6) [979] Oh look they've got a teddy bear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [980] She's got all her [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [981] Has she?
Jackie (PS0V5) [982] Yep.
Tony (PS0V4) [983] Yep ... first of December ... Sunday ... start opening those things and eating those sweets.
Mum (PS0V8) [984] You don't eat them tha
Tony (PS0V4) [985] Oh no.
Mum (PS0V8) [986] that's just a pretty one.
Tony (PS0V4) [987] That's right what was I thinking of.
Mum (PS0V8) [988] I mean she doesn't ... she don't get through a lot of chocolates does she?
Tony (PS0V4) [989] No.
Mum (PS0V8) [990] Can you reach me three of those small tins ... at the top ... the processed ones.
Tony (PS0V4) [991] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [992] Thank you very much I won't let you put it in your trolley.
Jackie (PS0V5) [993] Ha ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [994] Do we want any of those for Christine?
Jackie (PS0V5) [995] What?
[996] ... She doesn't likes the processed ones she likes the [...] ones.
Tony (PS0V4) [997] Oh have they got any ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [998] Did you get some sweetcorn? ... right ... We got some brussels sprouts
Tony (PS0V4) [999] Brussels ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1000] I thought it might be nice to put her back on her vitamin tablets actually ... it's just a vitamin C haliborange one.
Christine (PS0V6) [1001] [...] Christmas streamers.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1002] Go alright starting to get fed up you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [1003] [laugh] ... Oh sorry!
[1004] ... You would have been proud of my driving test examiner.
Mum (PS0V8) [1005] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1006] Is it that size?
Mum (PS0V8) [1007] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1008] Shall I see if I can get you some [...] ?
Mum (PS0V8) [1009] Yeah please Jack cos er ... I er that's been enough for me to open for myself ... and the big one's too big.
Tony (PS0V4) [1010] He turned round to me and he said ... erm ... right then ... I'll take you t would you take me to your vehicle ... erm ... and may I call you Anthony?
Mum (PS0V8) [1011] Oh ... very nice.
Tony (PS0V4) [1012] So I said ... yes okay. [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [1013] No, I don't like it.
Tony (PS0V4) [1014] I nearly said no I don't like it call me Tony
Mum (PS0V8) [1015] Call me Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [1016] It's a wonder you didn't.
Tony (PS0V4) [1017] [laugh] ... oh ... it made ... it made a nice change.
Mum (PS0V8) [1018] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1019] No you do it when you're telling me off. [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [1020] Yeah. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1021] Sorry?
Tony (PS0V4) [1022] I say Mum calls me Anthony when she's telling me off.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1023] Who?
Tony (PS0V4) [1024] Mum.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1025] Yeah. [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1026] You think oops I've done something wrong. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [1027] [...] a packet of cereal there.
Christine (PS0V6) [1028] [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [1029] No ... it's bad for you [...] ... won't be half busy to come out the Sunday before Christmas won't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [1030] Mm ... bi
Jackie (PS0V5) [1031] I was just thinking that way as well.
Mum (PS0V8) [1032] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1033] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1034] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [1035] Come on Dad let's go.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1036] [...] ... I like to keep one of those just in case they er ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1037] Round here with the toys.
Christine (PS0V6) [1038] Grandma, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1039] Ha, Ha, Ha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1040] No Vicky I meant.
Tony (PS0V4) [1041] I thought you said where's Christine?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1042] No Vicky.
Tony (PS0V4) [1043] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1044] I can't see her.
Tony (PS0V4) [1045] No ... I can't yet.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1046] She's probably way up the other end.
Tony (PS0V4) [1047] Aha ... leave the poor girl alone to her work.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1048] Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [1049] Yes.

10 (Tape 010210)

Jackie (PS0V5) [1050] Oh little babies.
Tony (PS0V4) [1051] Oh dear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1052] It's good actually cos it's not obvious
Tony (PS0V4) [1053] I haven't g ... I haven't got any other tapes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1054] Oh well wait until that's finished it's that's it then
Tony (PS0V4) [1055] That's it then for today.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1056] till tomorrow.
Tony (PS0V4) [1057] Yeah.

11 (Tape 010211)

Tony (PS0V4) [1058] Mum!
Mum (PS0V8) [1059] Thank you.
Tony (PS0V4) [1060] Well spotted.
Mum (PS0V8) [1061] How much are they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1062] Three nineteen.
Mum (PS0V8) [1063] Right okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1064] Oh yes ... loves them doesn't he.
Mum (PS0V8) [1065] [cough] [...] urgh!
Tony (PS0V4) [1066] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [1067] They might look very attractive

12 (Tape 010212)

Tony (PS0V4) [1068] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1069] Nice gooey cake [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1070] We shouldn't should we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1071] No ... which one do you want then [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1072] No ... okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1073] Those are nice.
Tony (PS0V4) [1074] What, those or those?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1075] This.
Tony (PS0V4) [1076] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1077] They're all nice actually aren't they?
Tony (PS0V4) [1078] Is that alright, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1079] [...] kitchen cupboard let's do it properly. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [1080] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1081] Do you only want sweet [...]

13 (Tape 010213)

Jackie (PS0V5) [1082] That's a new one ... Hovis White.
Tony (PS0V4) [1083] Hovis White ... mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1084] Don't particularly want any more
Tony (PS0V4) [1085] Ah ... sorry ... erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [1086] If I pull that out.
Tony (PS0V4) [1087] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1088] Don't [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1089] Ha?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1090] Get
Tony (PS0V4) [1091] Ooh ... nearly ran Mum over. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1092] Oh remember those Brownies?
Tony (PS0V4) [1093] Oh ... oh they were really sickly rich, weren't they and
Jackie (PS0V5) [1094] Yep.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1095] Nice though but
Tony (PS0V4) [1096] Mhm
Jackie (PS0V5) [1097] too much though.
Tony (PS0V4) [1098] A bit too much really.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1099] We need some more meat for Ben from the pet shop.
Mum (PS0V8) [1100] Oh look!
Jackie (PS0V5) [1101] Yeah they had those in last week.
Mum (PS0V8) [1102] Six.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1103] Six.
Mum (PS0V8) [1104] I think those are one twenty nine
Jackie (PS0V5) [1105] and what are those ten [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [1106] There's two forty four ... no two forty four, twenty four
Tony (PS0V4) [1107] Yeah, two fo
Mum (PS0V8) [1108] two forty it would have been
Tony (PS0V4) [1109] Two forty ... yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [1110] So it's cheaper to buy those ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1111] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1112] It's all different varieties, one, two, three ... six ... different varieties.
Tony (PS0V4) [1113] six ... different varieties yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1114] Oh he'll like that ... it's got his tripe [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [1115] Oh Yuk!
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [1116] He likes it no matter what you pu ... although he didn't like that other stuff we bought did he?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1117] No ... no ... no.
Christine (PS0V6) [1118] And he likes tripe.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1119] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1120] Yeah ... he likes that make but ... Urgh! ... the cat litters spilt.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1121] Urgh!
Tony (PS0V4) [1122] What did you say?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1123] I said shall I get him some more chews?
Tony (PS0V4) [1124] How many has he got do you know?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1125] About half a box ... at home ... [...] ... oh I will [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1126] No he's got ... mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [1127] that er
Tony (PS0V4) [1128] he's got enough to keep him going for now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1129] Yeah ... potatoes including maggots! [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1130] [laughing] really good [] ... sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [1131] Vegetarian potatoes ha ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [1132] Sorry?
Mum (PS0V8) [1133] Vegetarian potatoes.
Tony (PS0V4) [1134] Yeah ... what?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1135] Have you switched off yet?
Tony (PS0V4) [1136] No ... do want me ... okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1137] No I just wondered ... oh it has
Tony (PS0V4) [1138] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1139] Turn round ... where's the little light then?
[1140] ... Oh round there ... just wondered whether you wanted to keep a bit of tape for Vicky.
Tony (PS0V4) [1141] Oh ... Is she here?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1142] I don't know I haven't seen her yet ... probably ... I want to get some minced beef ... got some lamb ... have ... little erm ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1143] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1144] but we're being good.
Tony (PS0V4) [1145] Are we? [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1146] Oh that's just once a week ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1147] Yeah okay ... no.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1148] Some [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [1149] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1150] [laugh] ... In fact I do like these [...] I think I'll get one
Mum (PS0V8) [1151] Yeah. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1152] to put in the fridge ... how are your [...] nearly there?
Mum (PS0V8) [1153] [...] ... it's surprising how that much went by isn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1154] Oh yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1155] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [1156] What?
[1157] ... What was funny it made a loud noise but it hurt my ankle as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [1158] What?
Christine (PS0V6) [1159] That.
Tony (PS0V4) [1160] Oh ... sorry I didn't notice that.
Christine (PS0V6) [1161] It hurt me there ... yeah it hurt me.
Tony (PS0V4) [1162] I was trying to listen to what Grandma was saying.

14 (Tape 010214)

Vicky (PS0V9) [1163] I can't say anything now
Tony (PS0V4) [1164] It's too late you're already recording. [laugh]
Vicky (PS0V9) [1165] That's not fair.
Tony (PS0V4) [1166] [laugh] ... Do you mind?
Vicky (PS0V9) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [1167] [laughing] You just can't think of anything to say now can you [] .
Vicky (PS0V9) [1168] I've gone bright red
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Vicky (PS0V9) [1169] but you can't see that.
Tony (PS0V4) [1170] Right ... good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1171] He put it on and walked round with it for about ten minutes before we had the nerve to [laughing] say anything to him [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1172] Nobody would talk to me.
Vicky (PS0V9) [1173] I can't say I blame them.
Tony (PS0V4) [1174] No.
Vicky (PS0V9) [1175] No ... What's it for anyway, come on.
Tony (PS0V4) [1176] It's it is a nationwide survey on spoken English ... erm there's a somebody approached me today ... and said would I carry a tape around for a week and record people talking.
Vicky (PS0V9) [1177] It's actually for a spoken

15 (Tape 010301)

Tony (PS0V4) [1178] Oh dear, and er ... I got new pair of sheets, because they were erm ... they were the ones I had [...] .
[1179] So I've got that type [...] pair of sheets.
Dot (PS0VA) [1180] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1181] Erm quite like these actually, there slip on's and, and they've got and they got erm studs [...]
Dot (PS0VA) [1182] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1183] down there and [...] decoration and have on [...] .
[1184] I keep those best and where these then, these used to be my best shoes, [laugh] .
Dot (PS0VA) [1185] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1186] Yeah.
Dot (PS0VA) [1187] Is that [...] .
[1188] I thought you might like to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1189] Mm, yeah, thinking.
Dot (PS0VA) [1190] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1191] [laugh] .
Dot (PS0VA) [1192] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1193] [laugh] , yeah it's come in handy to put those things right at the beginning, that's the first thing you look at, you do it on purpose.
Dot (PS0VA) [1194] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1195] Yeah.

16 (Tape 010302)

Tony (PS0V4) [1196] Did erm, have you seen this [...] and it's for when you eh, eh change your week ending [...] .
Dot (PS0VA) [1197] Yeah, I think so.
Tony (PS0V4) [1198] And what you do, is you, say the whole week ending in [car horn] , [laugh] , your week ending day is Tuesday, so you do that, the new week ending day, so the Wednesday's got to be four.

17 (Tape 010303)

Tony (PS0V4) [1199] That's Wales, is it North Wales?
[1200] Yeah.
Dot (PS0VA) [1201] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1202] Yeah, how long did it take you to get up?
Dot (PS0VA) [1203] [...] I went up [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1204] Not that, yeah.
Dot (PS0VA) [1205] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1206] Yeah, yeah, yeah it must be because it's erm, is it two hundred miles or not quite?
Dot (PS0VA) [1207] I don't know [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1208] Ah yeah, yeah, so what are the roads like is it [...] any roads or
Dot (PS0VA) [1209] Some of them are. [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1210] No.
Dot (PS0VA) [1211] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1212] Yeah.
Dot (PS0VA) [1213] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1214] Mm.
[1215] Is it quite hilly er, quite twisty or what [...] .
Dot (PS0VA) [1216] It varies quite a lot.
[1217] With erm [...] in the dark it [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1218] Mm.
Dot (PS0VA) [1219] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1220] [laugh] .
Dot (PS0VA) [1221] And guess what they did [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1222] Yeah.
Dot (PS0VA) [1223] And that [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1224] Mm, mm, yeah, yeah, [...] .
Dot (PS0VA) [1225] But it was such a lovely [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1226] Yeah.
Dot (PS0VA) [1227] [...] .

18 (Tape 010304)

Martin (PS0VB) [1228] The this is better technical jargon that suppose to help
Tony (PS0V4) [1229] Right .
Martin (PS0VB) [1230] [...] , [...] the recovery of that circular four, appendix one of the planning resources handbook so, all of the items for which the E S can recover the VAT and that the invoices payable, the re-coverall VAT for once are part of the resource allocation and any short fall can seriously effect the E S budget.
[1231] It's [...] that in the period April ninety one to September ninety one there has been under recovery of VAT of nearly half a million pounds, will wait until they recover it [...] of which two er twenty six thousand is the true result of the South West Region of twenty six thousand pounds just over twenty one and a half thousand pounds related to job club fees, with all staff responsible for organising rosters even sure they are around the content of appendix one, section four, and that that [...] correctly identified in cages, Margaret Cornwall.
[1232] Write in the Margaret all systems computer [...] so we can all read it.
Tony (PS0V4) [1233] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1234] Well I, I got to get up and walk over and find it .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1235] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1236] Because I do not hold ... the appropriate resource in hand, whatever she's got, very helpful isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [1237] Yeah, yeah, wonderful.
Martin (PS0VB) [1238] That's all of interest in this I [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1239] [laugh] oh, you know it's amazing when you erm ... a reference always refers to something else, you gotta go and get that
Martin (PS0VB) [1240] Yes, I think ... we ought to do something about it Tony, [...] a message.
[1241] Ah look at this, Client Service [...] Handbook, that's in this [...] over Section F.
[1242] It says F is for literacy problems, debts problems and drug alcohol problems as well as.
[1243] Try telling that to my three year old see what [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1244] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1245] It's [...] fire engine.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1246] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1247] I didn't [...] .
[1248] Where am I, here we are, New Employer, you have to get a copy of that ... .
Tony (PS0V4) [1249] Some of these official inspections are awful aren't they?
Martin (PS0VB) [1250] Well, there, there going to [...] understand what they, what they've written about as well as [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1251] [laugh] yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [1252] Oh here, here is a fine example [...] anything with [...] in it has got to be doubtful.
Tony (PS0V4) [1253] [laugh] , yes ... .
Martin (PS0VB) [1254] Goodness gracious me, here we go.
Tony (PS0V4) [1255] Right.
Martin (PS0VB) [1256] Th this is a crunchy, sort off pot putting anyone within the employment service can request change to [...] .
[1257] E G a change to a cost centre or a [...] .
[1258] Changes are to be carefully considered before there [...] because due to the complexity and the importance of those [...] even minor changes, cause unexpected problems.
[1259] That can't mean nothing.
[1260] I suppose, [...] tell me what I shall consider
Tony (PS0V4) [1261] No.
Martin (PS0VB) [1262] How I shall consider it.
[1263] Why I should want to change anything, just nothing. [...] .

19 (Tape 010305)

Martin (PS0VB) [1264] Here gigantic ... gi , we use to have a word of the day when erm Ian was here, use to put word of the day up on the board
Tony (PS0V4) [1265] Mm, mm.
Martin (PS0VB) [1266] What we do is take the, the day of the week and the, the calendar date, it might be the [...] say it was the fourth day of the week Thursday
Tony (PS0V4) [1267] Yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [1268] And it was July, it's got to [...] .
[1269] It was the third day in July, page four, seven, three and then I had to find a word that I'd never heard off before and put it up on the board.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1270] [...] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1271] Like gromwell, [...] . [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1272] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1273] And then people would put up there suggestions of what a gromwell was [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1274] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1275] It was good fun, we won't, I won't re-institute that one.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1276] Yeah that's good.
Martin (PS0VB) [1277] Ginormous, where are we, ginormous, erm, no it's not in here and er G Y or J I or J Y so no it doesn't [...] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1278] No , but eh, another word that was ... I've heard used, and it was, actually it was quite annoying because the chap used it, used it wrongly, but I didn't know that he'd used it wrongly at the time.
Martin (PS0VB) [1279] Mm, mm.
[1280] What [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1281] It was paradigm.
Martin (PS0VB) [1282] Paradigm?
Tony (PS0V4) [1283] Yes.
Martin (PS0VB) [1284] Yeah, paradigm that, that's a bit like a paradox but completely different
Tony (PS0V4) [1285] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1286] What, what is it [...] as a paradigm .
Tony (PS0V4) [1287] You, you, you can't, yeah , you said you can't use er money as a paradigm for energy.
Martin (PS0VB) [1288] Ah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1289] And what he really meant to say was, you can't use money as a er a ... as a sort of parallel to energy, but paradigm doesn't mean parallel, it means something, something different.
Martin (PS0VB) [1290] It does, doesn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [1291] Yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [1292] I mean it's not [...] they way you expect it either, yeah, paradigm means example of pattern of, reflection of noun, hence parasite, big [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1293] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1294] No, I don't think I believe [...] at all.
Tony (PS0V4) [1295] No, but, he was using it as, as a fancy word for parallel and he wasn't using it properly.
[1296] The trouble is I didn't know because I've never heard the word before.
Martin (PS0VB) [1297] So, you could off asked him, what's he mean by the word paradigm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1298] Yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [1299] Because I've never used that word before, he'll say something completely pathetic.
Tony (PS0V4) [1300] [laugh] .
Martin (PS0VB) [1301] At least you'll know what he meant by it.
Tony (PS0V4) [1302] [laugh] .

20 (Tape 010306)

Margaret (PS0VC) [1303] In years to come now they'll life it out and say oh look at it.
[1304] I think it's how they used to speak in the twentieth century.
Tony (PS0V4) [1305] That's right, in the year nineteen ninety one or whatever, no I thought it was quite, quite good.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1306] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1307] Bit of erm ... and it's all anonymous and everything so
Dot (PS0VA) [1308] Oh you've got [...] tape, you've got another one?
[1309] How did you get two?
Margaret (PS0VC) [1310] There's some more at college, I haven't got one yet.
Dot (PS0VA) [1311] Oh alright then.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1312] [...] somebody else's, [...] got mine .
Dot (PS0VA) [1313] As long as you haven't got one yet, that's alright ... I'll be back, I'm just going out to the bank.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1314] Alright.

21 (Tape 010307)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1315] Family relations in Birkwood that would be an eye opener for her.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1316] What?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1317] I'll take it home this weekend and record family relations in Birkwood, that'll be an eye opener because like if I read the handicap for him, he talks absolute gobbledegook, that'll be interesting.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1318] [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1319] [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1320] [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1321] This is the average family, the nuclear family.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1322] [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1323] My dad's never called anybody by their proper names so that's what's confusion as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [1324] What's your nickname love?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1325] Nobby.
Tony (PS0V4) [1326] Nobby.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1327] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1328] What do you get called Nobby for?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1329] Nobby Stiles, the little [...] with no teeth.
Tony (PS0V4) [1330] Oh I know , yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1331] Don't ask me why, because he's, because he's ugly.
Tony (PS0V4) [1332] Huh.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1333] [...] Walter, after Walter because he thinks he looks like Walter
Tony (PS0V4) [1334] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1335] Huh.
Tony (PS0V4) [1336] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1337] I think I'll [...] my desk.
[1338] [noise in background] I [...] walking round the supermarket erm yeah last night
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1339] Did you Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1340] and that's what [...] and I completely [...] the checkout girl because I, I know her quite well, we always have to guess the same one, we have a bit of a laugh and I said do you want to be erm part of a national survey on s this English er on spoken English and she said oh, alright, so I said there you are your on
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1341] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1342] and she said what, pardon, erm, erm what have I got to say [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1343] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1344] [laugh] .
[1345] It's much better if you just switch it on and forget about it.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1346] Yeah, forget about it.
Tony (PS0V4) [1347] Yeah, that's, that's what I did at, at home.
Tony (PS0V4) [1348] The only thing is then you've got to remember if you, if you have a row or something, to go back and wipe, wipe that bit off [laugh] . [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1349] It's obvious with this training thing takes part you know, I've got to move in to the grotty old school room in [...] so [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1350] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1351] It should've been Concorde.
Tony (PS0V4) [1352] [laugh] .
[1353] Concorde?
Margaret (PS0VC) [1354] By [...] rights you know, would you mind moving into Concorde so [...] can have Brunel, I mean I've got I'm, I'd like to say yes I'll do my move into Concorde [...] broom cupboard
Tony (PS0V4) [1355] [laugh] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1356] But, eh, [...] my [...] not suppose to give up [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1357] Yeah ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1358] Are they stickers over there?
Tony (PS0V4) [1359] Erm, no the only stickers I've got, they've got the number written on.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1360] Oh, have they got any sixes on?
Tony (PS0V4) [1361] Erm
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1362] I need some stickers.
Tony (PS0V4) [1363] Oh, now, somebody had a roll of blank ones, ... but erm, wonder where they've gone too.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1364] Ah Jack's back now we can't nick our money out of her handbag.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1365] [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1366] [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1367] Oh let me [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1368] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1369] I think Tony's hogging them all to himself.
Tony (PS0V4) [1370] No, I'm not [laugh] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1371] [...] oh, here they are, here they are.
Tony (PS0V4) [1372] Ah, right.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1373] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1374] [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1375] Erm, [...] ... how did you find the script up here, it was alright was it? [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1376] Yeah, not too bad, yeah.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1377] No, I know some of it needs re-writing again.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1378] Yeah, the first [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1379] Yeah. [...]
Margaret (PS0VC) [1380] So what I need, because what I tell you to do you see, is in case there's somebody who fix it up and doesn't know, it's all there, but, you know,
Tony (PS0V4) [1381] [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1382] too much , yeah, right I'll
Tony (PS0V4) [1383] Did you [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1384] Yeah, what I mean I want some time off to be able to re-write properly.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1385] [...] .
[1386] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1387] Get a smaller strip like that [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1388] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1389] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1390] So [...] could go back to if they wanted too .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1391] Yeah, you need too [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1392] Yeah, that [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1393] That, that makes it easier to work with .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1394] Yeah .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1395] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1396] Yeah, yeah , no that's a good idea.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1397] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1398] Yeah, yeah, ok.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1399] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1400] I've got a few prep days coming up actually.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1401] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1402] [...] known by a number now.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1403] [...] number six for a number one.
Tony (PS0V4) [1404] I don't know if somebody's trying to tell me something, but they've made me number thirteen.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1405] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1406] Stuck to the desk so I can't move it.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1407] I've got to be careful off is use nine because sixty nine tend to go together don't they ?
Margaret (PS0VC) [1408] Oh you are, are you ?
[1409] [...] . Nine [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1410] [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1411] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1412] I know.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1413] I'm going to run a marathon on Wednesday I'm worried about that, two, two days of packing, I've got funny [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1414] Yeah, yeah [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1415] I must admit, I think it had been better if they'd moved it all over the weekend and then just put it straight again on the Monday, that would be [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1416] I'm, I'm going to find a quiet room because I've got to do some [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1417] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1418] I've got first of all [...] start vacancy taking because eh
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1419] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1420] I haven't done that before.
[1421] [noise in background] Well I was thinking there aren't [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1422] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1423] [...] desert a sinking ship.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1424] [laugh] . [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1425] We'd miss you wouldn't we Tony?
Tony (PS0V4) [1426] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1427] We'd miss Jackie.
Tony (PS0V4) [1428] Huh, huh.
[1429] Of course we will. [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1430] Oh right, [...] there isn't any more but apparently it's within walking distance, so what we were doing we was all walk over there together in the lunch time so, that's alright really lunch time [...] but it's erm
Margaret (PS0VC) [1431] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1432] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1433] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1434] Mo Monte Perrie is it? [...] . [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1435] I don't know that posh town at all me. [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1436] Thank you very much, I'll er send that on [...] . [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1437] Sure [...] . [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1438] The one she actually cancelled was the one to her family because I'd already cancelled the group one.
Tony (PS0V4) [1439] Oh dear, dear. [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1440] Yeah, [...] I saw that in John Lewis, the toy department, she said you forgot to cancel Jameson's.
Tony (PS0V4) [1441] Oh no I didn't I said I ... I did I was bit embarrassed about doing it because I've already changed it twice, he said well he rang me again I said oh he must of got his records wrong.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1442] Hang on what date is it for?
Tony (PS0V4) [1443] It's the twenty third, I said that's on Saturday, he said oh we have got these dates wrong now, I said er what you've cancelled is my personal booking but they ask for a work number you see.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1444] Yeah, oh dear.
Tony (PS0V4) [1445] Because [...] holiday he ask me
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1446] [...] book [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1447] yeah, he, he said oh I can just about fit you in, I said oh that's good because otherwise er I said to my friend that will be coming back to her house instead.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1448] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1449] No, poor thing, she [...] she [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1450] [laugh] .
[1451] [...] oh dear.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1452] I'm not going to be around on Monday.
Tony (PS0V4) [1453] Aren't you?
[1454] Why where are you?
Margaret (PS0VC) [1455] I'm going to be a I V P.
Tony (PS0V4) [1456] Oh, that's a good excuse.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1457] Yeah, that's a good one in't it?
[1458] [laugh] . Not much argument of that though.
Tony (PS0V4) [1459] No.
[1460] ... I don't think you'd get many volunteers to join you either to be honest.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1461] No [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1462] [laugh] .
[1463] I think moving's [...] better than a week of I V P.
[1464] ... Well from my point of view it is, it might not be from yours.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1465] [laugh] .
[1466] That's ok, I'm not eh, I'm not too uncomfortable with that one.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1467] Your alright because there blank, because there blank pieces of paper aren't they, they don't know anything.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1468] Mm, yeah, sometimes.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1469] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1470] Sometimes they can
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1471] Bet you get a few [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1472] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1473] [...] . [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1474] Yeah ... Haven't you gone yet?

22 (Tape 010308)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1475] Oh I sort of went home and sort of crashed out in, it's a day of communication on [...] on your own it's quiet tiring, [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1476] Huh, [...] and scratch it.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1477] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1478] Oh it's like that is it?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1479] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1480] Oh Sally had a packet curry each it was very appetizing.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1481] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1482] Do you ever get, oh I never do that do you?
[1483] Yeah.
[1484] What's for tea -get your own.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1485] [laugh] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1486] [...] I was really, really tired, I was dead tired and [...] , but [...] I always make the tea.
Tony (PS0V4) [1487] Yeah [laugh] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1488] Did ya?
Tony (PS0V4) [1489] [...] really, really straight forward.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1490] Yeah, like your [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1491] [...] somebody sit down [...] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1492] Yeah .
Tony (PS0V4) [1493] Don't you?
[1494] Start make the tea [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1495] Yeah .
Tony (PS0V4) [1496] And then I usually have to do the washing up as well.
Margaret (PS0VC) [1497] It's there own fought for not being , for not being a bit more assertive I s'pose, but.
Tony (PS0V4) [1498] Right. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1499] That's what you get in our house.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1500] You do that at breakfast and then you [...] .
Margaret (PS0VC) [1501] Oh that's nice, yeah [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1502] Really, have a good weekend.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1503] Yeah, same too you.
Tony (PS0V4) [1504] Thank you.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1505] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1506] Bye.
Tony (PS0V4) [1507] Bye, bye.
Tony (PS0V4) [1508] Think you can afford these chips then Tony?
Tony (PS0V4) [1509] What?
Tony (PS0V4) [1510] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1511] Oh, don't ask me, we normally get tea together.
Tony (PS0V4) [1512] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1513] I get Christine to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1514] Oh, [...] , [...] , bye.
[1515] [...] can do you now or ... yeah, eh no, yes that's right so
Margaret (PS0VC) [1516] [...] .

23 (Tape 010309)

Jackie (PS0V5) [1517] Alright Tony?
Tony (PS0V4) [1518] Yes thanks Den.
Christine (PS0V6) [1519] [...] and we can take them down to the Christmas school fare.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1520] Why?
Rene (PS0V7) [1521] And Mandy and Amanda?
Christine (PS0V6) [1522] And Amanda, I'll have to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1523] [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [1524] Yes there [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [1525] In here .
Tony (PS0V4) [1526] And [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [1527] [...] , until, until, until nine o'clock possibly I think [...] is going to end.
Christine (PS0V6) [1528] I think that's too late
Rene (PS0V7) [1529] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [1530] nine, nine o'clock.
Rene (PS0V7) [1531] You let me stay last year.
Christine (PS0V6) [1532] Yeah, but you were at the school last year, you had things to do.
Rene (PS0V7) [1533] I'm gonna have things to do to
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1534] Your only going to [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [1535] I'm gonna have two things as well, I'm going [...] and buy stuff and [...] and the pizza.
Christine (PS0V6) [1536] Well alright, I don't, I don't mind, but
Rene (PS0V7) [1537] Nine o'clock right, thank you, bye. [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1538] Alright Den?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1539] Yes, and you?
Tony (PS0V4) [1540] Yes, fine thanks, oh [music] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1541] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1542] What's going on here then?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1543] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1544] Oh. [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1545] Oh what is this [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1546] Yeah.
[1547] ... [music] [person on tv talking] Er Gary, [...] do you mind [...] .
[1548] [music] [tv person talking] alright, alright, quite everybody, quite, right, who want's to go first?
[1549] [...] Me, I will Debbie
Christine (PS0V6) [1550] Ah thanks.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1551] Piece of cake? [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [1552] Mummy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1553] Christine, I'm not coming in till nine o'clock, perhaps half past eight, half past eight, [music] [...] I will pick you up as well.

24 (Tape 010311)

Tony (PS0V4) [1554] What they gonna have at this fair then?
Christine (PS0V6) [1555] Oh well, it's like a stall you get erm [...] but I haven't got a ticket, Becky said you have to pay about ten P to get in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1556] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1557] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1558] But I do [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [1559] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1560] And then they have stalls and things, but you'll need money to spend there won't you?
Christine (PS0V6) [1561] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [1562] Dad
Tony (PS0V4) [1563] You'll have to take some money with you.
Rene (PS0V7) [1564] Dad
Tony (PS0V4) [1565] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [1566] I like your shirt and I like your tie and I like your watch and I like your shoes.
[1567] Can I have some money?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1568] I would like you to let, I would like you to let me go down to the fair.
Christine (PS0V6) [1569] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1570] [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [1571] Can I have some money?
Tony (PS0V4) [1572] Some money ?
Christine (PS0V6) [1573] Please yeah please, please.
Tony (PS0V4) [1574] Cor I don't know.
Christine (PS0V6) [1575] Go on, you don't want me to beg do you?
Tony (PS0V4) [1576] Have you had [...] have you had pocket money yet?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1577] What's this [...] or something [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [1578] Er no.
Tony (PS0V4) [1579] Oh, we can let you have the pocket money.
Christine (PS0V6) [1580] Yeah, two pounds.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1581] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1582] Ah, but you might off ... can't remember whether we ... bought anything yesterday out of your pocket money.
Christine (PS0V6) [1583] Huh?
Tony (PS0V4) [1584] Did we buy that, anything yesterday, yeah, bought some little babies didn't you?
Christine (PS0V6) [1585] Oh, well that the money that I found out my pocket and the payment granny gave me.
Tony (PS0V4) [1586] Oh right.
Christine (PS0V6) [1587] I found one pound ten P in my pocket
Tony (PS0V4) [1588] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [1589] and I'm gonna give you a [...] . ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [1590] Den I told mum about your dad last night with [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1591] Oh yeah . [television] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1592] Christine you'll have to get your feet down me love I want to sit down. [television] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1593] Shall I shuffle along, do you want to sit on the end?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1594] No, I don't mind where I sit as long as I got a seat, ha, ha.
Christine (PS0V6) [1595] Thank you mummy .
Rene (PS0V7) [1596] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1597] Yeah.
[1598] Oh lot's of people going then?
Christine (PS0V6) [1599] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1600] That, we'll pick you up at half past eight, not nine o'clock, that's a bit too late.
[1601] The head [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1602] Will you have enough to do ... down there for that length of time Christine?
Christine (PS0V6) [1603] Pardon.
Tony (PS0V4) [1604] Will you have enough to do for that length of time.
Christine (PS0V6) [1605] They got erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [1606] Did you take your bottle of milk in this morning before you went ?
Christine (PS0V6) [1607] it's stopped raining and [...] it's not raining or anything.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1608] Well there weren't any, didn't have any.
Tony (PS0V4) [1609] No it's not raining.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1610] Well you have it might [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [1611] There be stalls outside if it's not raining , if it rains then they have them indoors.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1612] Did you take our milk in this morning?
Tony (PS0V4) [1613] I can't remember.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1614] Well there's two lots there
Jackie (PS0V5) [1615] Crates there , but no milk.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1616] There's two in, in your, in your, in your, your er a fridge, and I thought it might [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1617] I normally bring that .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1618] So I picked up the thing with an empty bottle and put it in the, on the kitchen.
Tony (PS0V4) [1619] I normally bring the crate in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1620] [tv on] Well it was marked for one and there was no milk, there was no er, there was an empty bottle in the thing, but no milk, as long as he don't charge you for ... [television on] .
[1621] What they telling her off for?
Rene (PS0V7) [1622] Cos they've been worried with the press in the hospital [...] .

25 (Tape 010312)

Jackie (PS0V5) [1623] Dad phoned me up twice from your house this morning and couldn't get no answer here, he said, I was sat here so I can here the phone go, anyway he went around again later on, tried it, and it was alright then.
[1624] Don't what it was.
Rene (PS0V7) [1625] Weren't that funny? [television]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1626] Also in dad's last night said sat up watching the gold fish and he said oh I'll, I'll give you, I'll give you a tank and I'll get some fish on Sunday.
Rene (PS0V7) [1627] So what did she sa did you say?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1628] Well she didn't think he was serious, [tv on] he was, so were gonna have to phone up tonight and say look, no fish.
Rene (PS0V7) [1629] Mm.

26 (Tape 010313)

Tony (PS0V4) [1630] Oh well not, you can't get them to fit?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1631] No I can't, I can get a size eleven.
Tony (PS0V4) [1632] Mm, mm .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1633] But I've got a very high in-step you see. [tv on] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1634] Oh, so they don't fit across the front. [music]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1635] Is that [...] you bought last night?
Tony (PS0V4) [1636] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1637] Similar to that though in it?
Tony (PS0V4) [1638] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1639] Well when I finally chuck out these brown ones what I wear every day.
Rene (PS0V7) [1640] Well you've got another pair of brown ones upstairs you could wear as well, you've got a new pair of brown ones upstairs
Jackie (PS0V5) [1641] I know.
Rene (PS0V7) [1642] and you've got a pair of black shoes ain't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1643] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [1644] Got any others?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1645] No, so I was gonna say, I, I, go ... up to the [...] shop up Kingswood see if they had any cheap up there.

27 (Tape 010314)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [1646] No, it'll take a while
Tony (PS0V4) [1647] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1648] [...] it'll come suddenly.
[1649] What all you need know is a polishing off.
Tony (PS0V4) [1650] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1651] You know, you, it's, that's what it is it's getting the flow [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1652] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1653] and that takes the one off
Tony (PS0V4) [1654] Erm, but, he sorted something out for me, I, I said, cos of course now
Jackie (PS0V5) [1655] Carry on drying your hair can you?
[1656] You've got it all [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1657] Yes of course, you carry on drying your hair.
[1658] [hair dryer on] erm, so what happens now, is that er ... I'm coming off the er, coming off the clutches as [...] before the corner
Jackie (PS0V5) [1659] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1660] and if it's a tight one, and you're going round it in first, really tight one, then what you need to be doing really is slipping the clutch ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [1661] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1662] if it's really tight, slipping the clutch in first ... and what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to control it on the accelerator, you can't do it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1663] You'll be able to, but you can't at the moment.
Tony (PS0V4) [1664] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1665] And that
Tony (PS0V4) [1666] And it's much easier to try and control it on the clutch.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1667] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1668] So he s , I said to him is it alright, says am I in danger of coasting if I've got my foot on the ... if, if I'm taking the corner in first and ... I'm slipping and ... I got the clutch, I'm using the engine but I've, not much
Jackie (PS0V5) [1669] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1670] and he said oh no that's not coasting.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1671] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [1672] It's only if you've got the clutch right in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1673] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1674] But, erm, ... in second my foot should be flat on the floor.
[1675] He took me round that blooming Argyle Road three times.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1676] Oh, the horrible corner.
Tony (PS0V4) [1677] Yeah, cos I told that was one, I said that's, that's the one I, I over slowed on my test.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1678] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1679] And he's told me that it's first gear, right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1680] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1681] So what I was doing I was coming into it, I was coming in too fast for the gear, not too fast for the corner, but too fast for the gear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1682] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1683] Shoving it in, shoving it into first, bring the clutch up quickly and the car goes weer and virtually stops
Jackie (PS0V5) [1684] Yeah , yeah, yeah [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1685] so it wasn't the fact I was trying to lose too much speed, it was that I changed into first and didn't have
Jackie (PS0V5) [1686] Enough revs on the engine to keep it going
Tony (PS0V4) [1687] enough revs on the engine , he'd be going and when I lift, raised the clutch, whereas if I had brought the clutch up part way ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [1688] The car would of slowly slowed down to be at the speed that the engine
Tony (PS0V4) [1689] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1690] was going on, yeah ... yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1691] Well as I actually had to going round the corner, to get myself round the corner, I had to come off the brake and onto the accelerator
Jackie (PS0V5) [1692] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1693] to actually get myself round the corner.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1694] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [1695] Yes, because you see, [hair dryer off] , I don't remember, I, I think I take that one in second you see.
Tony (PS0V4) [1696] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1697] But,
Tony (PS0V4) [1698] I took it, I, he said well try it and we went round it in first and I went and it went rrah [laughing]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1699] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1700] and, and, so erm, we ... er, then I came round and I did it in second, he said there you went too wide there
Jackie (PS0V5) [1701] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1702] you came close to the white line.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1703] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1704] Yes, course there's always a car parked on the corner isn't it?.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1705] There's always a car parked on the corner
Tony (PS0V4) [laughing]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1706] [...] .
[1707] I must admit I'd always cheat at that corner, when I'm coming up to it, I don't do it suddenly
Tony (PS0V4) [1708] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1709] I'm then coming up to it, I move fractionally out into the road
Tony (PS0V4) [1710] [laughing] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1711] [laughing] then you've got more room to get round [] If you sit glued to the pavement it's a hell of a job to get round
Tony (PS0V4) [1712] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1713] whereas if your fractionally out further into the road it's easier to, got slightly different
Tony (PS0V4) [1714] I didn't have that excuse because there's a car parked before the turning
Jackie (PS0V5) [1715] oh, so you've had to get out
Tony (PS0V4) [1716] I had to be out wide and then turn in [hair dryer on]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1717] yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1718] and there's a car on the opposite side of the road as you turn in [...] aha, so you go outside work and then round and ha, ha, oh ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [1719] You'll get it.
Tony (PS0V4) [1720] But, that slipping the clutch is blimey useful.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1721] It is.
Tony (PS0V4) [1722] I beginning to find how useful, cos I can keep the revs going ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [1723] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1724] When, when I'm not sure what's happening, and people are sort of weaving about and things like that, you can use that and you can just tick over and your ready to move if you need to and you can stop quite quickly if you need to as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1725] Yeah, yeah, I see.
Tony (PS0V4) [1726] I mean, we've, I've, there was a [laughing] situation [] these are the roads he's taking me around now, he had me reverse round the corner which was practically blind, couldn't see what was round the corner, so I was edging round, and it was on a hill so I had to do it, every time I stopped I had to put the handbrake on so I didn't roll
Jackie (PS0V5) [1727] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1728] [laughing] And [] edging round the corner, checking all ways, there was a parked car, there's a van parked the opposite side of the road so anything turning in had to come over into my, the path of me
Jackie (PS0V5) [1729] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1730] and a, coming out of that there were some cars parked, some other cars trying to drive through, I was coming out trying to turn right, there was another car waiting to turn left, and he couldn't come in cos I was coming out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1731] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1732] So I had to drive out past him, pull over to the other side of the road as much as possible to let him come through and the other cars come through, then I could [laughing] come [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1733] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1734] And doing that, to have the clutch sort of half way up in first you just sort of, you just
Jackie (PS0V5) [1735] you need help [...] ,
Tony (PS0V4) [1736] sort of kick on [...] and it's quite nice and you've got it all under control and if you get a chance to go you can and if you've got to stop it's no problem.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1737] yeah ...
Tony (PS0V4) [1738] And then I got myself in a knot ... cos there was a car coming up the road
Jackie (PS0V5) [1739] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [1740] between a lot of parked cars and there was a, I was coming down the road and all I needed to do was to actually stop where I was ... cos there was enough room on his side of the road for him to come past the parked car and round me
Jackie (PS0V5) [1741] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1742] I sort off, parked car there and I came up and he had room to do that
Jackie (PS0V5) [1743] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1744] and what I did was, there was a gap here, and I drove into the gap nose first, and I did do a hell of a lot of steering to get myself out
Jackie (PS0V5) [1745] Yeah, but [hair dryer off] that means that they still do occasionally
Tony (PS0V4) [1746] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1747] I mean, that, very, very occasionally you'll do something and you'll think, erm why didn't I do that [laugh] you think that's stupid, you know ,
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1748] and you think oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [1749] yeah .
[1750] There's no need, no need to do that he said.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1751] No, occasionally I'll do something like that mind you .
Tony (PS0V4) [1752] There's plenty of room, yeah there's plenty of room for him to get passed in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1753] Yeah ... I was annoyed, up at Christine's school the other day, I was waiting for Anita, and there's driveways all along that road
Tony (PS0V4) [1754] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1755] so there's stops where you can park on those
Tony (PS0V4) [1756] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [1757] driveways, it was pouring down with rain one day so I was going up to meet her and we, I'd got up there, I've learnt now, I leave home ... at quarter past three if it's raining
Tony (PS0V4) [1758] mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1759] I go up to meet Anita, anyway you can get a parking space up there, so I've turned, drove up there ... they say I haven't left as early, it was while I was learning [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [1760] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1761] when the erm, so it, a car parked across a drive ... and a car, the car behind him which was in a space was going
Tony (PS0V4) [1762] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1763] and it was in quite a big space, I could off got in behind him and then changed if I'd reversed in [music] but when I saw this other chap sat in his car and then he indicated he wanted to pull out, so I let him go
Tony (PS0V4) [1764] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1765] Then I drove into his space ... well then somebody else came and drove in behind me ... and the car in front then was sort of, oh yeah, then somebody else came and reversed in in front of him, so the car in front it was across the drive was boxed in by this time, I didn't box him in I just
Tony (PS0V4) [1766] No .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1767] parked behind, but then somebody else came and parked in front of him, and he was there and sort, you could see him looking you know, he looked at the driveway and he looked, he was looking in his rear view mirror and then he turned round and looked like this, then he looked at the front, and he was thinking my god I can't get out of here, and all of a sudden a little car comes up the road stops, goes beep, beep on the horn, wanna get in the drive, this bloke went ha, ha, ha, ha [laughing] and he couldn't do anything []
Tony (PS0V4) [1768] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1769] So, so, he looked, he looked round at me, he looked at the ... the other group waiting in front and he was, he flashed his lights at them so that, they realised what was going on by then, they moved forward a bit , I moved back a bit and he just had enough room he reversed right up close to me and then got out but he just had enough room to get out, and since then I won't park over the driveway up there, cos you can bet your life the one driveway along that road and you parked in front is the one that somebody wants to get into.
Tony (PS0V4) [1770] Ah .
[1771] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1772] Oh right, I'd better go actually.
[1773] Mother eh be er complaining.
Tony (PS0V4) [1774] Yeah, okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1775] Where have you been, you said half past three.
Tony (PS0V4) [1776] Well it's twenty five to four, what does that [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1777] It'll be twenty to by the time I get round there. [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1778] Better do this washing up hadn't I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1779] I can't
Tony (PS0V4) [1780] I'd put
Jackie (PS0V5) [1781] believe it when he took the [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1782] I put in for the eh, my driving test again.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1783] Oh good.
Tony (PS0V4) [1784] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1785] Good, good.
Tony (PS0V4) [1786] Sometime in the New Year now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1787] What date did you put on the form, not before
Tony (PS0V4) [1788] Well he's put a month from the last ... test.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1789] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1790] Well you won't have it around Christmas, after between Christmas and the New year .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1791] No , no.
Tony (PS0V4) [1792] It'll be erm, January time I suppose .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1793] I, I said to him I, I don't want, I know I can't have a test soon, but I don't really want another one ... that soon.
Tony (PS0V4) [1794] No ... but now all that your doing is polishing your drive better off
Jackie (PS0V5) [1795] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1796] unfortunately that can be a very painful business [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1797] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1798] Depends
Jackie (PS0V5) [1799] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1800] You might find it easy
Jackie (PS0V5) [1801] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1802] easier.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1803] What
Tony (PS0V4) [1804] But.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1805] we doing tomorrow?
Tony (PS0V4) [1806] Tomorrow well, trainee to wash and a hoover [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1807] [...] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1808] This is yet, Tesco's open as well, we've lost our
Jackie (PS0V5) [1809] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1810] little driving spaces now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1811] Yeah, okay.
Tony (PS0V4) [1812] Masterline's open, [...] are open.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1813] Yeah, so I can't
Tony (PS0V4) [1814] You can have a drive round actually, round by the Coca Cola factory there maybe somewhere
Jackie (PS0V5) [1815] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1816] you can go.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1817] I think I, what, what I'm thinking is that this sort of ... are there's er any, any driving would be good
Tony (PS0V4) [1818] Yes it would.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1819] No matter what I do.
Tony (PS0V4) [1820] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1821] But checking this slipping the clutch in first.
Tony (PS0V4) [1822] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1823] Cos, when you try, if you try and control it on the accelerator it's very, it's really jerky
Tony (PS0V4) [1824] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1825] or it's very difficult to keep it smooth
Tony (PS0V4) [1826] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1827] I won't say it's really jerky, but it
Tony (PS0V4) [1828] I can do it, but I've been driving for two and a half years
Jackie (PS0V5) [1829] Yeah, yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [1830] and then it's [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1831] I
Tony (PS0V4) [1832] And I can only just do it
Jackie (PS0V5) [1833] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [1834] It's very, I mean the foot control is very, very [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1835] And it's so much easier to put some reeves on than use the clutch [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1836] It is.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1837] It is .
Tony (PS0V4) [1838] But then again, you've got to feel a bit careful there because it can misconstrued totally
Jackie (PS0V5) [1839] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1840] if, but I mean if your obviously doing it and you [...] more moving the clutch up and down
Jackie (PS0V5) [1841] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1842] then fair enough.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1843] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1844] You know?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1845] He said something and I couldn't make sense of it
Tony (PS0V4) [1846] What did he say?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1847] because he said ... that ... when I came into that corner I pulled in ... I'd slowed too much ... and then had to drive round, drive round the corner with my left foot flat on the floor ... and I thought oh, shouldn't your left foot be flat on the floor when you corner and that's probably what he was getting at, as I could off been slipping the clutch.
Tony (PS0V4) [1848] Yeah [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [1849] But when he said it, I thought ... oh I thought I had to have my left foot flat on the floor when I cornered, cos in second you have too.
Tony (PS0V4) [1850] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1851] In second it's cut and dry
Tony (PS0V4) [1852] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1853] You've got to have your foot flat on the floor before you corner.
Tony (PS0V4) [1854] That corner is an absolute horrible
Jackie (PS0V5) [1855] Yeah I know.
Tony (PS0V4) [1856] it does, on the corner
Jackie (PS0V5) [1857] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [1858] and that one you've got to drive it definitely than most corners
Jackie (PS0V5) [1859] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1860] so you, you can't treat that as an ordinary left handed turn,
Jackie (PS0V5) [1861] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [1862] it is very
Jackie (PS0V5) [1863] But if you can't cope with it.
Tony (PS0V4) [1864] You've got to be able to cope with it .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1865] You've got to be able to cope with it.
Tony (PS0V4) [1866] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1867] But you've got to treat it as a special case
Tony (PS0V4) [1868] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1869] and you've got to
Tony (PS0V4) [1870] No, I , I won't tell you how I was taught to do it because I was taught to do it very differently.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1871] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1872] I was taught to do it in first and use the accelerator.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1873] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [1874] You know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1875] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1876] Mm ... so, cos he said it'll help.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1877] Help with your accelerator control .
Tony (PS0V4) [1878] With your accelerator control , yeah [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1879] So it's diff of course there's [...] courses giving
Tony (PS0V4) [1880] yeah ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [1881] instructors different ways of teaching you.
Tony (PS0V4) [1882] yeah.
[1883] He said
Jackie (PS0V5) [1884] You , you need fine control on the clutch ,
Tony (PS0V4) [1885] Mm ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [1886] but you also need it on the accelerator as well
Tony (PS0V4) [1887] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1888] and he said well, okay, with your reversing and everything else your getting the front control on the clutch
Tony (PS0V4) [1889] So yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [1890] this will help you to do it on your
Tony (PS0V4) [1891] do it on your accelerator ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [1892] ... accelerator.
Tony (PS0V4) [1893] whereas
Jackie (PS0V5) [1894] So,
Tony (PS0V4) [1895] I, I finding the control on the accelerator difficult
Jackie (PS0V5) [1896] yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [1897] in first, erm, and I've got some fine control on the clutch and I can use that to deal with that particular corner.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1898] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1899] Perhaps.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1900] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [1901] That's just what he's saying.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1902] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1903] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1904] Any rate.
Tony (PS0V4) [1905] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1906] See you later then.
Tony (PS0V4) [1907] Yeah. [television] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1908] I see you later than, oh where's the car keys I had them on the ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1909] There we are, I was hiding them with my hand.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1910] Yeah, I know, do you want a cake or is it not too naughty?
[1911] [television] Christine can you turn that volume down a bit, it's up too high.
[1912] [television] . Yes you want to take it [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1913] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1914] [...] do your hair.
Tony (PS0V4) [1915] Bye.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1916] Bye.

28 (Tape 010315)

Tony (PS0V4) [1917] Where is it?
Christine (PS0V6) [1918] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1919] Oh yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [1920] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1921] No, but it's near ...
Christine (PS0V6) [1922] Where about's in [...] where about?
Tony (PS0V4) [1923] I don't know ... it's not far away.
Christine (PS0V6) [1924] I wish I could go there [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1925] It's landed.
Christine (PS0V6) [1926] Has it?
Tony (PS0V4) [1927] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [1928] Do you know, do you know where it is? ...
Tony (PS0V4) [1929] Not really ... , anyway I'm gonna get started, ok.

29 (Tape 010316)

Jackie (PS0V5) [1930] Hello.
Tony (PS0V4) [1931] Hello.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1932] There's a cauliflower and a bag of potatoes left, ok .
Tony (PS0V4) [1933] Ok, I'll go and get them.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1934] It's alright, I'll go and get them.
Tony (PS0V4) [1935] Ok. [television] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1936] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [1937] I read the instruction [...] again about this thing.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1938] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1939] It actually says record all your conversations.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1940] Oh, are you?
Tony (PS0V4) [1941] I don't know how that all worked with work, because erm, they may not want me too.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1942] Well, you can't do it if they, if they don't want you to
Tony (PS0V4) [1943] So er, that's right, I'll check
Jackie (PS0V5) [1944] You can do what you can do
Tony (PS0V4) [1945] I'll check it out with the manager.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1946] Yeah ... see what he means?
Tony (PS0V4) [1947] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1948] I'm gonna take mum out on Monday
Tony (PS0V4) [1949] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1950] And were gonna get some more Christmas stuff on [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [1951] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1952] and a few drinks.
Tony (PS0V4) [1953] Ah, that sounds ok .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1954] And chocolate, you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [1955] Your gonna take the stamps?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1956] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1957] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1958] Sorry I've been a while, I went into mum's to take her shopping in and Uncle Philip was there.
Tony (PS0V4) [1959] That's alright .
[1960] Oh right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1961] And having, seeing as we see him so rarely now
Tony (PS0V4) [1962] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1963] I ah, look, don't say anything to Christine [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1964] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1965] [...] and I bought those, because you know Jane came up?
Tony (PS0V4) [1966] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1967] and she ate two of the vegetable ones
Tony (PS0V4) [1968] Mm, mm .
Jackie (PS0V5) [1969] well there's two left in there and that's not enough for you and I
Tony (PS0V4) [1970] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1971] so I thought we could have two, one of those each and five fingers.
Tony (PS0V4) [1972] Yeah, ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1973] So ... .
Tony (PS0V4) [1974] You know I dug the information out again, I've had a read through of it, and it actually says, were asked just to record all your, all your conversations.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1975] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1976] So it's not for me to sort of sit quietly and listen to, record other people, so it's my conversation they want.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1977] Yeah.
[1978] Well it's other people as well I think, but, I believe you don't have to sit down [laughing] conversation on your on do you? [] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1979] No, not very often.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1980] [laughing] unless there's something seriously wrong []
Tony (PS0V4) [1981] Where, unless somebody's fallen asleep or something has bored somebody to death.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1982] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [1983] Erm, now what am I doing?.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1984] You don't want one of these do you?
Tony (PS0V4) [1985] Yes I do, that's why I put the kettle on.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1986] Right aha.
Tony (PS0V4) [1987] Erm, I better put these in the freezer for now hadn't I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [1988] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [1989] Cos were not going to do Christine's two straight away.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1990] No, [...] hot dogs tonight so do you mind having eh
Tony (PS0V4) [1991] No not at all.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1992] right, I'll light the oven.
Tony (PS0V4) [1993] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1994] Give it a chance to warm up, we needn't put it in for a bit.
Tony (PS0V4) [1995] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1996] Sorry I was a long time I didn't
Tony (PS0V4) [1997] That's alright.
Jackie (PS0V5) [1998] Eh [...] started chatting told him you've got a photograph of [...] for you.
Tony (PS0V4) [1999] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2000] He said when were moving her bedroom around, if he, if we give him a shout he'll come over and help.
Tony (PS0V4) [2001] Oh, that's helpful .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2002] Cos of taking the wardrobe of it and what have you.
Tony (PS0V4) [2003] Right , yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2004] I must admit I would be grateful cos if anything goes wrong
Tony (PS0V4) [2005] You can't get it back together .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2006] can't get it back together
Tony (PS0V4) [2007] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2008] It'll be shameful to ask her
Tony (PS0V4) [2009] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2010] And then were, were, sort of D I Y [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2011] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2012] Ooh, and mum also
Tony (PS0V4) [2013] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2014] [...] this, you know with been thinking of Chris Causeway at the erm place too go.
Tony (PS0V4) [2015] Mm, mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2016] M F I.
Tony (PS0V4) [2017] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2018] And it's, it's the colour she wants, and not only has she got drawers, but she's got shelves down that side as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [2019] Yeah, that looks good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2020] Look at [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2021] Yeah ... I know M F I isn't far from er you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2022] No, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2023] There was a M F I along
Jackie (PS0V5) [2024] There isn't any more it was right opposite me.
Tony (PS0V4) [2025] Oh it's gone ah, right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2026] [...] it's not there any more.
Tony (PS0V4) [2027] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2028] But we can get her, that [...] Christine ... Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [2029] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2030] Come and see, you know originally you wanted a white desk, not a black one.
Christine (PS0V6) [2031] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2032] Do you like the look of that with book shelves down the side there?
Christine (PS0V6) [2033] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2034] Yeah, you've got three doors which is more storage space than the other one, cos the other one only had a cupboard down [...] had no drawers, what's the matter?
Tony (PS0V4) [2035] Doesn't like it, you prefer the other one?
Christine (PS0V6) [2036] Yeah, I do.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2037] It's just that you, your better of space if you have that one and you can books down there or on them whatever you want too ... and if you had that one, you'd be able to have a, erm another cupboard as well probably.
[2038] Is it cheaper?
Tony (PS0V4) [2039] Well .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2040] It's only cheaper because it's in a sale, it's been reduced down from forty pounds, it was forty pounds before.
Tony (PS0V4) [2041] No, if, if she didn't like it then we ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2042] Well you can go and have a look if you like ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2043] A .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2044] If you don't like it it's up to you .
Christine (PS0V6) [2045] No I'm .
Tony (PS0V4) [2046] What's up?
Christine (PS0V6) [2047] Nothing.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2048] What's up? there is, we can tell, what's the matter?
[2049] Tell us.
Christine (PS0V6) [2050] I like that one and now you've put me in a difficult position cos I like that one, have that one, but I like the lockable cupboard on the other one.
Tony (PS0V4) [2051] Lockable cupboard? there isn't a lockable cupboard .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2052] Yes there is .
Christine (PS0V6) [2053] Yes there is .
Tony (PS0V4) [2054] Is there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2055] Yeah .
Christine (PS0V6) [2056] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2057] Yeah, but the other one, remember it was a choice of two wasn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2058] I thought we were getting her the one with the drawers ... one with a lockable cupboard is,
Jackie (PS0V5) [2059] Well , is a bigger one.
Tony (PS0V4) [2060] is a bigger one.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2061] Yeah ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2062] I thought we were getting her the one, but the only thing is the other has got drawers both sides hasn't it? if I remember rightly.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2063] Just one side ... I tell you what, let's take you, don't do that, or you'll break it off, let's take you and you can have a look at this one.
[2064] Why do you want a lockable cupboard? ... we don't [...] well it's very [...] , so why do you need a lockable cupboard?
Christine (PS0V6) [2065] Cos I just need one, I just like it ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2066] Well I don't think that one will fit in your bedroom in any case, having looked at the size of the wardrobes and the site of the gap that you've got.
Tony (PS0V4) [2067] No it was the other one, with the t , with the drawers that, that would er
Jackie (PS0V5) [2068] That we thought was best ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2069] Smaller one ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2070] Well let's have a think, we'll, we'll have a think and then have a look, if we go up there it's a huge furniture place, they won't have just one they'll have more than one ok?
[2071] How about that?
Tony (PS0V4) [2072] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2073] I said, they won't just have one designer desk will they?
Tony (PS0V4) [2074] No, we'll have a look around, and see what they've got.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2075] If they [...] just furniture ok, whereas Argos do a lot of other things as well, so if we take you over there you can have a look see if there's anything you really fancy.
[2076] I know it's awful [...] making you actually have to [laughing] decide for yourself [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2077] I, I .
[2078] I like the one with the lockable cupboard door, but I like that one as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2079] I don't think that one will fit in .
[2080] Yes.
Christine (PS0V6) [2081] If they took out one of these drawers and have a lockable cupboard I'd have it no questions.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2082] Yeah, well let's go and have a look, ok.
Christine (PS0V6) [2083] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2084] Don't make up your mind one way or the other, cos were have to take our tape measure.
Christine (PS0V6) [2085] [...] that bit of icing.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2086] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [2087] What's that?
Christine (PS0V6) [2088] Go on.
Tony (PS0V4) [2089] She's after h , our cake .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2090] Have a gingerbread man.
Christine (PS0V6) [2091] I want some icing.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2092] There's icing on the gingerbread man, your not [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2093] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2094] After our cake is she?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2095] She's asked for the icing of off our cake not our cake and she's not having it.
[2096] Do you want a gingerbread man with your cup of tea?
Christine (PS0V6) [2097] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2098] Oh, told you, got to eat all her dinner, oh, wow, gee
Tony (PS0V4) [2099] Well, she had a chocolate biscuit, she had one of those snack things and an orange chocolate biscuit
Jackie (PS0V5) [2100] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [2101] and I said well if you have that now, you better eat your dinner.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2102] Ah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2103] And that was well erm,ha about an hour ago now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2104] I see, torturing that child again aren't you? [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2105] That's right, I've been exceedingly cruel to her.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2106] Childline, Childline ... Den got us a Hovis loaf it looks [...] than the other one.
Tony (PS0V4) [2107] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2108] Now [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2109] Mm ... [television]
Jackie (PS0V5) [2110] [...] to have a gingerbread man if you want it otherwise let daddy [...] ... [television] Oh what's this Bedknobs and Broomsticks?
Tony (PS0V4) [2111] Yeah, on tape ... [television] You know this [television] ah, it's the, the actual letter says we would like you to do, what we would like you to do is to record all your conversations with other people except telephone conversations over a, over a one week period, erm, but that's, that's not, doesn't quite, [...] just need to record as much as I can.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2112] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2113] Which is fair enough, that's what I'll do [television] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2114] I just wondered why I heard a noise, [...] the gerbils running .
Tony (PS0V4) [2115] Oh, yeah .
[2116] That's right.
[2117] [television] It doesn't say anything about background noise or anything.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2118] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [2119] So, [...] television's on, radio's on or something.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2120] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2121] Yeah.
[2122] [television] . [laugh] I love that cat.
[2123] Mm, wow.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2124] They must off worked on that cat for hours to get into the [...] .

30 (Tape 010317)

Tony (PS0V4) [2125] Got Jaws the Revenge on at quarter too eight.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2126] Mm, mm [tv on] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2127] There's a choice between that and the Royal Variety Performance, no choice at all is there? [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [2128] At all is there .
[2129] [laugh] . [tv on] . It didn't get a very good [...] in the book.
Tony (PS0V4) [2130] Didn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2131] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [2132] What, the erm the film or the
Jackie (PS0V5) [2133] Tape.
Tony (PS0V4) [2134] Mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2135] [...] for children.
Tony (PS0V4) [2136] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2137] [...] might be different.
Tony (PS0V4) [2138] That's right, so we'll have a look at it shall we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2139] Mm ... That was [...] second tape is it that one?
Tony (PS0V4) [2140] Yeah, second tape ... .
[2141] It actually says that it, to only tell people if they ask what your doing.
[2142] Cos if people know there being recorded they tend to
Jackie (PS0V5) [2143] I must admit I wondered.
Tony (PS0V4) [2144] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2145] Because, it gets ridiculous and everyone gets very [...] into what there saying.
Tony (PS0V4) [2146] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2147] You know, and they [...] long conversation with each other were they get used to it.
Tony (PS0V4) [2148] Mm, yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2149] Oh it says in here explain what you are doing when you are recording the conversation you will need to explain to the other people involved what you are doing and why.
Tony (PS0V4) [2150] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2151] Ah, it maybe that [...] after the conversation has finished unless they ask you directly what you are doing.
Tony (PS0V4) [2152] That's what I, that's what I said, yeah ... and they say that if your just walking around, unless your actually on your own ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2153] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2154] Mm, pardon me, it's just, it, it pays just to run it, just to keep it going continuously ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2155] I must admit you'll get through the tapes a lot quicker that way won't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [2156] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2157] I mean, I mean, one word [...] were usually talking same [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2158] Yeah.

31 (Tape 010318)

Tony (PS0V4) [2159] Oh, Big is on. [tv on]
Jackie (PS0V5) [2160] Big.
Tony (PS0V4) [2161] Big.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2162] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2163] Yeah on Wednesday ... [reading] Tom Hanks and Elizabeth Perkins, a twelve year []
Jackie (PS0V5) [2164] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2165] Yeah.
[2166] [reading] A twelve year old makes a wish at a fair ground fortune telling booth that he could be big, and the next morning his astonished to find that he's fully grown []
Jackie (PS0V5) [2167] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2168] Mm.
[2169] [reading] In the adult world he finds success at work and discusses romance, but soon learns that being a grown up is not all that's it cracked up to be [] .
[2170] It's a two hour film on Wednesday night.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2171] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2172] Yeah, eight o'clock.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2173] Oh good.
Christine (PS0V6) [2174] It's got Tom Hanks isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2175] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2176] and [...] he changed places
Tony (PS0V4) [2177] That's right.
Christine (PS0V6) [2178] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2179] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2180] but they [...] .
[2181] [...] the twelve year old [...] [television]
Tony (PS0V4) [2182] Ah, you got the Drowning Pool on again.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2183] Sorry the Drowning
Tony (PS0V4) [2184] The Drowning Pool, that's Paul Newman and, and Janet erm, Joanne Woodward, that's the one where you get trapped in this place and it's filling with water.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2185] I don't remember every seeing it.
Tony (PS0V4) [2186] They get trapped in a place and there, it's filling with water and they, they've gotta get them, they gotta, they gonna drown because it's filling with water and they gotta get out, get out before the room fills with water completely.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2187] I don't remember seeing that.
Tony (PS0V4) [2188] Oh, it's a very good film ... [...] record it.
[2189] [television on] It's on Friday night.

32 (Tape 010401)

Tony (PS0V4) [2190] I haven't done the dusting.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2191] Oh, terrible.
Tony (PS0V4) [2192] But, huh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2193] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2194] But, erm, I have done the hoovering.

33 (Tape 010402)

Christine (PS0V6) [2195] Had a calculator like that mum
Tony (PS0V4) [2196] Ha, ha, ha, ha.
[2197] Oh dear ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2198] Oh, that's wicked [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2199] Oh dear, I think I'm, I think I getting a bit boring.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2200] Boring, why ?
Tony (PS0V4) [2201] Mm , that's a bit [laugh] , a bit [...] up in it? [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [2202] What's he mean?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2203] Don't know why you laugh at it then , [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2204] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [2205] What's he mean mummy ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2206] Oh ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2207] Did you see out the [...] dressed up in, as a strawberry.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2208] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [2209] He said he [...] , a big strawberry [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2210] Oh, they have lots of [...] , yeah ... ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2211] Oh [...] oh, got his nose tucked under his wing.
Tony (PS0V4) [2212] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2213] And it was the [...] family with the amazing flame dog [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2214] [laugh] ... oh dear ... [clock strikes] ... [clock chime] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2215] He's got your jumper on.
Tony (PS0V4) [2216] Oh god.
Christine (PS0V6) [2217] Who has?
Tony (PS0V4) [2218] I'll never wear it again now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2219] [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2220] Who has?
[2221] Who has?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2222] Tony Blackburn is wearing daddy's jumper, you see when he opens the [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2223] What red one?
Tony (PS0V4) [2224] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2225] No, there's grey one with the leather bits under the front. [laugh]

34 (Tape 010403)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2226] Go on, smile.
Christine (PS0V6) [2227] I'm [...] , hope not, I put that back, [...] one, [...] ... now give me a certain country where [...] .
[2228] Just say any [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2229] Er four [...] .
[2230] You've got half of them over there, cos that's a [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2231] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2232] There's some under there, you haven't got them all in there.
Christine (PS0V6) [2233] I know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2234] Well that's cheating.
Christine (PS0V6) [2235] [...] put them there.
Tony (PS0V4) [2236] What .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2237] [...] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2238] In't that rotten, there got a thing, there got people voting, ringing in and voting to see whether they want Willy Thorn or John Virgo to go in the gunge tank.
Christine (PS0V6) [2239] Anyway [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2240] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2241] John Virgo's winning at the moment, if winning's the right word.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2242] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]

35 (Tape 010404)

Tony (PS0V4) [2243] I'm er ... I'm gonna erm, I might see if I can record some conversation on a bus, but I don't know.
[2244] Jack.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2245] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [2246] If I get Jack and somebody on the bus I might pop my hand inside my brief case and press the recorder ... where's that cameraman hid then? oh it's built into the dashboard, yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2247] [...] she's [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2248] She's trying to be very nice and she's really fuming ... Have you er finished with your tea?
[2249] I get you another ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2250] Never mind when you come to [...] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2251] Yeah, look forward to that ... .
[2252] I'm not erm, I'm not going to be in a situation to record all my chat anyway, I don't think, because of the erm, the amount of it, when I'm running a course I do an awful lot of chatting during the day.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2253] Yeah, well I mean even if you recorded as much as you can, if, you've got twenty tapes
Tony (PS0V4) [2254] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2255] so you've got plenty of er
Tony (PS0V4) [2256] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2257] I mean, when if you [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2258] And also I don't , I don't want it to be a barrier either.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2259] No, well the thing is you, to be honest you forget about it don't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [2260] You do, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2261] Just [...] explain and see what people say.
Tony (PS0V4) [2262] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2263] If anybody asks us, you can tell them.
Tony (PS0V4) [2264] Yeah.

36 (Tape 010405)

Tony (PS0V4) [2265] I'll have a quick, I have a word with Pauline on Monday see what she says.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2266] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2267] And the thing is do, information about then if it procedures [...] for fraud, that's the problem.
Christine (PS0V6) [2268] That was brilliant. [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2269] We can record us going to work and coming home and on weekends .
Tony (PS0V4) [2270] And erm conversations erm at
Jackie (PS0V5) [2271] At lunch time .
Tony (PS0V4) [2272] lunch time tea break time, things like that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2273] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2274] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2275] But, you can have ask Pauline see what she says, but
Tony (PS0V4) [2276] Mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2277] But, erm, actually it would be probably be nice for you if you could record it in your training session because you can take [...] in your pocket and sometimes you, you can get a better idea of how it's
Tony (PS0V4) [2278] Mm, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2279] How you sound and how it goes if you can
Tony (PS0V4) [2280] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2281] do you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [2282] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2283] If [...] light bulb [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2284] The light bulbs gone.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2285] [...] that one went the other night ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2286] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2287] Oh dear, isn't that rotten?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2288] He's got little [...] shorts on.
Tony (PS0V4) [2289] Yeah.

37 (Tape 010406)

Christine (PS0V6) [2290] Do you want to play a game with me?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2291] Well, well, what, what we've got to go and put the dinner in my darling.
Tony (PS0V4) [2292] I gotta get your dinner.
Christine (PS0V6) [2293] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2294] Oh you poor thing. [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2295] [...] .
[2296] You can hear it [...] all of us [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2297] What you, what you want to play patience?
Christine (PS0V6) [2298] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [2299] Pairs?
Christine (PS0V6) [2300] No, shuffle them.
Tony (PS0V4) [2301] Did you?
[2302] ... Er, ok, you tell me again.
Christine (PS0V6) [2303] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2304] Well I'm sorry Christine I've got to go and get dinner.
Tony (PS0V4) [2305] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2306] Grandma's be around here in about an hour.
Tony (PS0V4) [2307] The only reason I can er play is that, your dinner won't take very long to get.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2308] [...] you always [...] , it's difficult [...] when were sat down doing nothing you don't ask.

38 (Tape 010407)

Tony (PS0V4) [2309] Can you change your game, so you can play it with thr with two?
Christine (PS0V6) [2310] No, what you do
Tony (PS0V4) [2311] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2312] is erm, well you do it, you've got one Joker in pack right, and you mix them up and you deal them out and you look at your cards, if you've got a Joker
Tony (PS0V4) [2313] Mm.
[2314] Yeah.
[2315] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [2316] then, then you, everyone's got to mix up there cards again
Tony (PS0V4) [2317] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2318] You've got to put them in the order so you can see him, but the other person can't
Tony (PS0V4) [2319] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2320] and you've got to pick someone to choose out your card, and they don't know if you've got the Joker or not
Tony (PS0V4) [2321] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2322] and they've got to pick one of the cards and they might get the Joker.
Tony (PS0V4) [2323] Right, I see.
Christine (PS0V6) [2324] But, the trouble is you can tell who's got the Joker when there's two, because if you haven't, you know the other person has.
Tony (PS0V4) [2325] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2326] But if you've got more than one person then it's harder.
Tony (PS0V4) [2327] Mm, we could play pairs if you like.
Christine (PS0V6) [2328] Snap?
Tony (PS0V4) [2329] Yeah, can play snap.
Christine (PS0V6) [2330] I put the same cards oh [...] and we can play [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2331] Well, I won't, I'll play one game with you and then I'll go and get your tea ... alright?
[2332] So.

39 (Tape 010408)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2333] I got some more rolls, so I'll put them in er big bag straight away, yeah [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2334] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2335] With got a few, with got a few left? ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2336] Better take the foil tray off the pipe.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2337] [...] I had to put one in the microwave [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [2338] [laugh] . [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2339] Yeah doesn't do it [sneeze] [sneeze] oh [...] ... I'll be bother if I get a cold next week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2340] Oh yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2341] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2342] Even if Henry's there, well he can't come in today, [...] panic .
Tony (PS0V4) [2343] Panic , yeah.
[2344] As were already stretched to the limit with er
Jackie (PS0V5) [2345] And [...] moved in on Monday.
Tony (PS0V4) [2346] That's right, there moving on Monday.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2347] Oh you won't be able to come in any day with me next week will you?
Tony (PS0V4) [2348] Not in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2349] Won't be able to come in with me any day [...] I thought that was [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2350] No you didn't, it's preferably alright ... oh, right ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2351] Dad.
Tony (PS0V4) [2352] Mm, mm ... Oh ... [blowing nose] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2353] We know [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2354] Yeah I know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2355] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2356] Oh, I'll empty that in a minute ... I must admit I don't fancy trying to do it, it's going to be really cold and horrible.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2357] Well, with got to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2358] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2359] Once you got actually [...] watching [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2360] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2361] It's not too bad is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2362] Got [...] to do as well still.

40 (Tape 010409)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2363] Oh one of the women in work said we had eh a bit of bad news, she's really, really nice, I get on ever so well with her.
Tony (PS0V4) [2364] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2365] And she works for erm [...] and
Tony (PS0V4) [2366] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2367] Her husband erm, had a stroke
Tony (PS0V4) [2368] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2369] or something ... forty five.
Tony (PS0V4) [2370] Oh, it's young isn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2371] Yeah.
[2372] [beeping] And she is so liked [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2373] Mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2374] But we, I thought I hadn't seen her around you know, because we, because of what I do
Tony (PS0V4) [2375] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2376] with the National Health, then I have a lot, more contact with her than with most other groups.
Tony (PS0V4) [2377] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2378] There always referring stuff to us, were always referring stuff to them, do you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [2379] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2380] You better not of scratched that door.
Tony (PS0V4) [2381] I only just let him in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2382] Ben ... It's raining.
Tony (PS0V4) [2383] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2384] Come on Ben, oh come here, come here, come on, [...] .
[2385] No you're not going to go [...] ... But she's a really nice person, I [...] ruined her Christmas [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2386] How bad was it?
[2387] Is he
Jackie (PS0V5) [2388] Well we don't know any details yet, I think he's, he's off work [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2389] Yeah.
[2390] When did he have it did she say?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2391] Last week, some time.
Tony (PS0V4) [2392] So he's obviously been incapacitated in some way.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2393] Well he's in hospital [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2394] Oh, alright, if he's in hospital then it must be pretty ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2395] Forty five it's no age is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2396] No ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2397] Put a bit of kitchen roll on the table.
Tony (PS0V4) [2398] Yeah ok, so it won't slip round ... Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [2399] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2400] Your tea's ready.
Christine (PS0V6) [2401] Alright ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2402] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2403] They look nicer don't they, there thicker.
Tony (PS0V4) [2404] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2405] Might as well go in for a bit because [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2406] Yeah .
[2407] Christine your tea.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2408] Go and get your tea.
Christine (PS0V6) [2409] Alright , alright.
Tony (PS0V4) [2410] There you are.
Christine (PS0V6) [2411] Ooh, crinkles, oh you got them, you got the crinkled ones.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2412] Yes [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2413] Oh there pretty kilts on there.
[2414] I was just thinking I wonder how my erm, what a do about choir practice this week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2415] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [2416] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2417] Take it with you ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2418] I'm not recording ca choir practice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2419] [laugh] , you won't want to hear you blow a thing.
Tony (PS0V4) [2420] That's not conversations is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2421] No.

41 (Tape 010410)

Tony (PS0V4) [2422] I suppose I a better mention it too Pauline, only I was thinking if I did just conversations, could also do the domestics.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2423] [...] appointment [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2424] And then not record anything to do with the procedures, although there are some things that will probably be ok to record.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2425] Yeah, that's it, I mean, you, you've got to [...] job, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2426] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2427] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2428] Question, of whether I ask Pauline, or I whether I just do it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2429] Yeah I mean she ... probably would be wise to mentioned it to her.
Tony (PS0V4) [2430] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2431] Cos if she saw you with it on
Tony (PS0V4) [2432] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2433] doing, running her lecturers
Tony (PS0V4) [2434] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2435] she might get [clears throat] what she's doing you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [2436] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2437] So it would probably be better to mention it to her, but say you'll be discreet, not record anything that [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2438] Yeah.
[2439] I mean there are certain things like, the general conditioners to benefit, which erm, are alright, but there are other things that I know about and that I will pass on to people to look out for that I wouldn't want [laugh] eh, that you wouldn't want eh, erm, outsiders to know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2440] [...] dinner a be ready.
Tony (PS0V4) [2441] Oh, right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2442] Was that nice Christine?
Christine (PS0V6) [2443] Mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2444] I'm wasting my life exercising tonight as well
Tony (PS0V4) [2445] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2446] Even if I've got to do them when mum and dad gone home.
Tony (PS0V4) [2447] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2448] [...] open the oven door and jump back [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2449] [laugh] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2450] [...] back to front is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2451] Do you want a roll?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2452] No I don't think, [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [2453] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2454] Not now, later, later.
Tony (PS0V4) [2455] Alright.

42 (Tape 010411)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2456] That's so funny, that chap's got a, he has got erm, an Indian accent with a Welsh accent on top, [...] it's really [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2457] [laugh] , yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2458] Interesting ... Pauline at work, she's ever so hurt, couldn't get over it, she came up to me the other day she said, hello, how long has it been [laughing] we haven't seen one another for two months [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2459] Oh, oh yes, cos she, wasn't she
Jackie (PS0V5) [2460] She was in it in India.
Tony (PS0V4) [2461] India.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2462] For
Tony (PS0V4) [2463] That's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2464] three weeks, four weeks.
Tony (PS0V4) [2465] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2466] Er, no I was on holiday for a week
Tony (PS0V4) [2467] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2468] Then while I was away ... she went on holiday straight after.
Tony (PS0V4) [2469] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2470] No it was our summer holiday, I went off for two weeks, when I came back Paula was off for a month.
Tony (PS0V4) [2471] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2472] Then, since then, with me being sick that time and what have you, she was in Cornwall the week her, the couple of weeks I was in
Tony (PS0V4) [2473] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2474] visiting, so ... just haven't seen one another at all it was really annoying.
Tony (PS0V4) [2475] [laugh] .
[2476] [clears throat] yeah [clears throat] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2477] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2478] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2479] I can't imagine her getting [...] .
[2480] She's got here tremendously fast cos she won't be staying that long.
Tony (PS0V4) [2481] No, good ones move on so fast don't they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2482] Yeah.
[2483] I'm finished [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2484] That's why we tend to stay where we are [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2485] Oh, no she could go anytime, she says what, what will happen there'll ... inspectors are put on a register
Tony (PS0V4) [2486] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2487] and I mean there aren't many, in our place with got about ooh, twenty or thirty in [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [2488] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2489] but there's only ... five principal inspectors, and she's got principal inspector grade
Tony (PS0V4) [2490] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2491] now
Tony (PS0V4) [2492] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2493] so, when she moves that'll be it we just won't see her any more.
Tony (PS0V4) [2494] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2495] Funny, ha, ha, ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [2496] Can I have the salt please Christine? [clears throat]
Jackie (PS0V5) [2497] There's two [...] more inspector's I must admit.
[2498] He keeps there opinion about [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [2499] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2500] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2501] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2502] Very moody
Tony (PS0V4) [2503] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2504] so if his going his way that's fine
Tony (PS0V4) [2505] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2506] if not, look out.
[2507] So ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2508] That look's quite simple, aha, that's not [laugh] ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2509] Mummy [...] .

43 (Tape 010412)

Tony (PS0V4) [2510] Oh, Brian took me round that corner, right, slowed down too much
Jackie (PS0V5) [2511] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2512] he took me round that corner for three times today.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2513] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2514] Ev , and, he'd say oh turn left here and all that and then you'll be going along and I'd think oh
Jackie (PS0V5) [2515] You'd be [...] coming at it again
Tony (PS0V4) [2516] I'm coming up to it again, he says turn left up ahead, I think [...] , [laughing] and here we go [] .

44 (Tape 010413)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2517] Oh dear
Christine (PS0V6) [2518] That bit was rude, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh] ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2519] [laugh] , he [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2520] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2521] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2522] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2523] You know that balloon he gave, it landed in erm, pass [...] field.
Tony (PS0V4) [2524] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2525] Show gran [...] to see where it was.
Christine (PS0V6) [2526] Ah, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2527] I bet there was loads of people down there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2528] Yes, more coming all the time.
Tony (PS0V4) [2529] Mm.
[2530] He must dread that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2531] Perhaps I missed it, it had about twelve people in it.
Tony (PS0V4) [2532] Twelve people.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2533] It's a huge balloon, absolutely huge.
Tony (PS0V4) [2534] I didn't think they took that many ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2535] They said what's that, what's that, it's margarine every single bit right, and [...] was wearing the balloon it was [...] in his eyes.
Tony (PS0V4) [2536] Aha, ha.

45 (Tape 010414)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2537] Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [2538] Yeah ... what, what's he doing? ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2539] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2540] Oh [...] ha.
[2541] Chasing dots alike.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2542] [...] .
[2543] There going loopy.
Tony (PS0V4) [2544] I think this recorder must be, it adjust the level ... automatically.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2545] Does it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2546] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2547] Can we watch a film tonight mum?
Tony (PS0V4) [2548] If I cough or something it goes quite for a little while then comes back again.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2549] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [2550] Erm, there's Jaws on Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [2551] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [2552] Jaws the Revenge.
Christine (PS0V6) [2553] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2554] Is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2555] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2556] We see what it's like, and if it's ... not very good we'll watch something else.
Christine (PS0V6) [2557] I [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2558] Oh this is going to be interesting ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2559] Oh got to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2560] I nearly got involved in that at one time, I's about
Jackie (PS0V5) [2561] You .
Tony (PS0V4) [2562] yeah, I's about ten like that, when I was about eleven ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2563] Mum I thought
Tony (PS0V4) [2564] There's a metallist girl who was interested in it, she wanted me to be her partner ... mm, went along once or twice but
Christine (PS0V6) [2565] I've got a
Tony (PS0V4) [2566] two left feet.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2567] Weren't impressed.
Tony (PS0V4) [2568] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2569] No.
Christine (PS0V6) [2570] I've got a [...] hour.
Tony (PS0V4) [2571] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2572] Becky said oh no, no [...] , oh I thought [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2573] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2574] [...] . [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2575] That's an audition then.
[2576] That's a
Christine (PS0V6) [2577] She said at the [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2578] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2579] One girl there, she's in our group she had brilliant [...] , really good singing voice.
Tony (PS0V4) [2580] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2581] Brilliant.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2582] You have a go your self?
Christine (PS0V6) [2583] Yeah.
[2584] So is it [...] you say no, have to [...] she showed up [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2585] Mm, mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2586] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2587] Wow, what you doing then?
[2588] What is it?
Christine (PS0V6) [2589] It's a play.

46 (Tape 010415)

Christine (PS0V6) [2590] Is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2591] Aha, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2592] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2593] Well she was a dancer, but eh [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2594] Well, she's a dancer, singer all sorts ... acting ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2595] You have to work [...] hasn't she?

47 (Tape 010416)

Tony (PS0V4) [2596] Raise me foreheads be careful there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2597] Yeah, strong.
[2598] Ya, straight on the floor.
Tony (PS0V4) [2599] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2600] She had her foot up touching his ears, he had his ear like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [2601] I must admit I was never very good at dancing but, I was good at catching.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2602] [laughing] and they dropped you [...] yes [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2603] Never dropped anyone.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2604] But, just that you couldn't keep up with them [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2605] Step on there feet, yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2606] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2607] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2608] [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2609] [...] .
[2610] [...] lift me up, lift me up and I went back [laugh] and I went back and I, I [...] [laugh] fell [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2611] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2612] Was she [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2613] I know but she still lives there, [...] drop me then, she dropped me [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2614] Oh save him a bit of it.
Tony (PS0V4) [2615] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2616] Ah I've forgotten his chip, his looking all
Tony (PS0V4) [2617] Cos you've eat it all.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2618] Yes, yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [2619] You've been cruel.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2620] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [2621] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2622] Your licking your lips and you haven't got a chip have you?
Christine (PS0V6) [2623] Go on dad ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2624] Got one, say thank you. [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2625] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2626] Aha, cup of tea?
[2627] Ok.

48 (Tape 010417)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2628] Oh aren't they lovely?
Tony (PS0V4) [2629] What the ... jugs?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2630] The jugs yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2631] Didn't see them properly.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2632] They were like bunches of oranges and lemons
Tony (PS0V4) [2633] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2634] if you know what I mean
Tony (PS0V4) [2635] Yeah I know.
Christine (PS0V6) [2636] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2637] In ceramic?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2638] Yeah ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2639] A what?
Christine (PS0V6) [2640] A Pocket T V.
Tony (PS0V4) [2641] Pocket T V.
Christine (PS0V6) [2642] [...] .
[2643] A radio, the [...] the cuddly toy er
Tony (PS0V4) [2644] Good grief she's got a good memory.
Christine (PS0V6) [2645] The coffee maker, the ... the [...] er [...] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2646] God, she, she was brilliant.
Tony (PS0V4) [2647] She got an awful lot of things didn't she?
[2648] There's a really good game we did at, at Rammore for remembering people's names.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2649] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2650] And they, it was a bit frightening because we were in a group of seventeen and see what I mean when, I mean how it starts is like if were starting with me, I have to say I'm Tony, right, and then you would say I'm Jackie and this is Tony and then Christine would say I'm Christine this is Jackie, this is Tony, I was at the end of a group of seventeen [laugh] and I had heard it sort of, you hear it, it builds up round the room
Jackie (PS0V5) [2651] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2652] We've had a game like that .
Tony (PS0V4) [2653] So that you can in the end, when I came to do it, although it was seventeen people I didn't find it too difficult.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2654] No, cos you just remember the order that you went round the room in and [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2655] That's right, well no, these were people and, some of the people I knew, some of the people I hadn't met before.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2656] Ah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2657] Daddy.
Tony (PS0V4) [2658] And so I had to sort of go round the room and say I'm Tony and this is, and go all round, and I got round the room.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2659] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2660] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2661] So you did quite well.
Tony (PS0V4) [2662] But I was surprised that I got round the room, cos I'm awful at remembering names ... I think I'm gonna have to try and
Christine (PS0V6) [2663] Dad do we have to [...] we have to come up with a name.
Tony (PS0V4) [2664] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2665] With a first name, so I said her and Chris
Tony (PS0V4) [2666] Oh yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [2667] The man said [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2668] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2669] Erm, but, we had a, that was, that was quite good, but I must, there's a trick to remembering names, and that is that you use it all the time, so any time, if you want to remember somebodys name, every time you see them you say hello and there name
Jackie (PS0V5) [2670] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2671] and that sort of imprints it on you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2672] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [2673] Cos I've noticed there is an awful lot of people do that to me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2674] Yeah.
[2675] I'm terrible for people's names
Tony (PS0V4) [2676] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2677] I'm absolutely hopeless.
[2678] Places, I can tell you I know somewhere looking at them and I think where do I know you from
Tony (PS0V4) [2679] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2680] Names ooh.
Tony (PS0V4) [2681] Yeah.
[2682] And that, that can be difficult in training because you see so many people and they spend the week looking at you and they've got one name to remember, but you've got eight or twelve names to remember
Jackie (PS0V5) [2683] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2684] and you see them a three weeks later and they say hello Tony and you think hello, who the hell are you? [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2685] My watch is breaking up.
Tony (PS0V4) [2686] Breaking up.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2687] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2688] What the strap?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2689] No, the case.
Tony (PS0V4) [2690] [sneeze] , oh, the case.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2691] [...] , fit this in already, [...] so, you know the other side.
Christine (PS0V6) [2692] [singing] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2693] Where the strap goes into the case.
[2694] The other side, the [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [2695] Oh oh I see.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2696] See the bit lifting?
Tony (PS0V4) [2697] Yeah, I can.
[2698] Missing a little bit missing bit further along as well.
Christine (PS0V6) [2699] Daddy I thought [...] .
[2700] What you doing [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2701] Erm, I think if they killed a shark
Jackie (PS0V5) [2702] Well they yeah, they, they killed Jaws about [...] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2703] Yeah, but there's an awful lot of sharks about.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2704] Yeah, but they reckon that this is the same shark, [...] he's killed twice now.
Tony (PS0V4) [2705] Well it was killed in Jaws.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2706] It was killed in the second one as well.
Christine (PS0V6) [2707] But there's lots of great white [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2708] Cos this is the fourth film.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2709] Yeah, I know, it was killed in the one where it got trapped in the [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2710] That's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2711] And it was killed in the first one, that was two .
Tony (PS0V4) [2712] Yeah .
Christine (PS0V6) [2713] But, there's thousands and thousands of great [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2714] Oh, I don't know how people can eat fish like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [2715] No, I can't, it'll, if you don't take the head of it I can't eat it, I couldn't even, I have prawn cocktail ... and you have a prawn, they put, they put a prawn on top whole, I couldn't eat that, I could have peeled it, I looked at it and I thought about it, no, I can eat them when there done
Jackie (PS0V5) [2716] Yeah but not.
Tony (PS0V4) [2717] but not when there not done [sniff]
Christine (PS0V6) [2718] Oh remember when I was squeezing that [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2719] I haven't heard a word of this so far.
Tony (PS0V4) [2720] Sorry.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2721] Not a single word [...] .

49 (Tape 010501)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2722] It looks really weird seeing Christmas and it's hot and they can go swimming and [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2723] Yeah .
[2724] That's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2725] I really don't think I'd like that Christmas and it's cold toesie's
Tony (PS0V4) [2726] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2727] Yeah, pretty odd thing [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2728] That's right.
Christine (PS0V6) [2729] I like [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2730] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2731] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2732] Mm.

50 (Tape 010502)

Tony (PS0V4) [2733] Is that a mechanical one?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2734] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2735] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2736] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2737] When they were doing the first picture they had, I think [...] it was.
Tony (PS0V4) [2738] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2739] And it [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2740] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2741] Do you know mummy
Jackie (PS0V5) [2742] [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2743] do you know when the [...] come up on the side, that from [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2744] And your be [...] Guy.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [2745] Did she go along with a friend?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2746] [...] horses.

51 (Tape 010503)

Tony (PS0V4) [2747] What?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2748] It was a question of [...] and it's a little
Rene (PS0V7) [2749] Tell her about [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2750] Mm .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2751] Ah . [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2752] You sneezing Rene?
Rene (PS0V7) [2753] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2754] Sneezing?
Rene (PS0V7) [2755] Yeah ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2756] I've been doing that today as well.
[2757] Good if I get a cold cos I got erm training course next week.
[2758] Five days of non-stop talking.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2759] You'll have to [...] to get one over [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2760] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2761] [...] .

52 (Tape 010504)

Tony (PS0V4) [2762] I tried to, er, I told ... I got criticised for slowing down too much, going into a corner on my dr driving test, I told Brown which corner it was, he took me round there three or four times to s today on my lesson, yeah, we'll keep doing it till you get it right [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2763] The only way Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [2764] That's right.
Christine (PS0V6) [2765] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2766] [hiccup] Oh pardon me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2767] You were looking a bit sorry for yourself when we came back cos he buys flowers and he gives [...] , so he'll buy them the day before, I got the next day, there their making [...] in all that [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2768] Stop what? ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2769] Stop the bus [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [2770] Do you have a recording on there?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2771] It [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2772] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [2773] Cos, is it [...] ?
Tony (PS0V4) [2774] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2775] Oh look, aha, oh my god ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2776] That big [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2777] Now that is fake, who [...] world.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2778] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2779] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [2780] [...] got a large one ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2781] [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [2782] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2783] Come on Ben.
Tony (PS0V4) [2784] If I lo , if I sit out there looks, looking sorry for myself then somebody will ... take me .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2785] When was, what's the matter with you?.

53 (Tape 010505)

Tony (PS0V4) [2786] Oh is he related then to er
Jackie (PS0V5) [2787] [...] Beryl.
Tony (PS0V4) [2788] That chap with the curly hair.
Christine (PS0V6) [2789] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2790] Well that's his brother.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2791] He's the brother .
Tony (PS0V4) [2792] Oh right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2793] [...] the one who got killed, he's the police chief's son.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2794] He's the brother .
Tony (PS0V4) [2795] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2796] And she's the police chief's wife.
Tony (PS0V4) [2797] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2798] And her mother.
Tony (PS0V4) [2799] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2800] So she's now lost her husband and one son and he's the other son.
Tony (PS0V4) [2801] Yeah, got it, ok ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2802] [...] to work the way he [...] the other ones.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2803] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2804] Th this shark has got nine lives I think.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2805] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2806] Could be it's brother [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2807] Christine, you've got a quarter of an hour and then you go out on the table, cos that dinner is going anywhere [...] ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2808] I am going to [...] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2809] I think if Michael Caine's [...] played a part of a toy- boy [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2810] Well he's hardly a toy-boy.
Tony (PS0V4) [2811] Erm , [laugh] , no I don't think he's a toy-boy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2812] About the same age ha, ha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2813] Well I didn't know that, I only asked.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2814] No, a toy-boy is where you've got an old lady with a fif there's about a twenty year old bloke .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2815] Boy , yeah [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2816] Mm.
Rene (PS0V7) [2817] A toy-boy is
Jackie (PS0V5) [2818] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2819] Granddad is that a toy-boy or a [...] [laugh] .

54 (Tape 010506)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2820] Jack
Jackie (PS0V5) [2821] Give me five.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2822] Michael .
Tony (PS0V4) [2823] Really.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2824] Yeah, O R E somebody else is sure they knew [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [2825] [...] , oh great.
Rene (PS0V7) [2826] Do you say [...] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2827] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2828] Oh.

55 (Tape 010507)

Tony (PS0V4) [2829] When were watching television and nobody's talking much there's not much point is that?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2830] No point no, we could take Ben out, but there won't be much point is there?
Tony (PS0V4) [2831] No, unless somebody comes with me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2832] All you'll say is sit, stay, there's a good boy [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2833] Yeah, you've got to do it with the right inflect as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2834] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [2835] There's a good boy [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2836] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2837] There's a slightly response too.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2838] Yeah it is Billy told me there would, that's what makes a [...] . [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [2839] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2840] [...] .
[2841] [laugh] ... What ... [...] other day ... those Christmas cards, there a little bit disappointing you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [2842] Are they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2843] There nice designs, but there not very big but some of them are really tiny.
Tony (PS0V4) [2844] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2845] But they are nice [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2846] Well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2847] There [...] handy [...] work.
Tony (PS0V4) [2848] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2849] The little ones.
Tony (PS0V4) [2850] That's just what I was gonna say .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2851] There pretty cards.
Tony (PS0V4) [2852] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2853] But some of them are really small.
Tony (PS0V4) [2854] Mm.
[2855] [sigh] . I don't know half the people in area office to send them cards.

56 (Tape 010508)

Tony (PS0V4) [2856] They say in that thing that you don't want half conversations.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2857] Half conversations?
Tony (PS0V4) [2858] Yeah, if you think you might come to the end of a conversation before you reach the end of the tape, they've rather you put a new tape in .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2859] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2860] Mm, ok, yeah, thank you dad.
Tony (PS0V4) [2861] I suppose
Jackie (PS0V5) [2862] You can have it back actually.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2863] No I don't [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2864] It was only erm to show Tony that, there.
Tony (PS0V4) [2865] [...] sorry, put it in the erm ... put it in the cage, first thing I built.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2866] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2867] Put in he's bedding.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2868] Yeah I ask mum and dad to stay with us a few more [...] , two thirds of a carrier bag full.
Tony (PS0V4) [2869] Mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2870] Got to keep [...] tomorrow of er what time, I get you [...] in that carrier .
Tony (PS0V4) [2871] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2872] You know we've decided to leave the car possibly.
Tony (PS0V4) [2873] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2874] You know what happen now, it's raining [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2875] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2876] It does it every time.
Tony (PS0V4) [2877] Never mind, see what the weather's like tomorrow then won't we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2878] It's so annoying to end up, never at a pub [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2879] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2880] Cos you clean a little bit, you clean the outside and it's raining, cos you can't take the hoover out there and
Tony (PS0V4) [2881] Clean the inside.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2882] Clean the inside.
Tony (PS0V4) [2883] And then by the time you get round in cleaning the inside, the outsides dirty .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2884] The outsides dirty [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2885] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2886] So, er, [...] she's getting ever so grubby looking now, I reckon very soon we'll gonna have to talk about getting some more er [...] covers.
Tony (PS0V4) [2887] Mm, mm. [cough] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2888] Er, Yuk .
Tony (PS0V4) [2889] Sorry ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2890] When do you think we'll be able to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2891] [sniff] erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [2892] Before February? ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2893] That's when we planned to weren't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2894] Only eh, I'd like to know over the Christmas period if any little habits surface.
Tony (PS0V4) [2895] Yeah , yeah, ok, Kim can do it this month .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2896] [...] came in late .
Tony (PS0V4) [2897] Yeah, we can do it this month.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2898] Mm, for a brand new Rolls Royce, it's not going very well is it? ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2899] Oh dear ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2900] Read this little name fifty fifty engine it just doesn't get you along very good, does it?
Tony (PS0V4) [2901] Yeah .
[2902] Certainly had a nine fifty Rolls Royce would get along very well [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2903] [laugh] ... Tony would you do the table?
Tony (PS0V4) [2904] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2905] Wipe the work top off and then that [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2906] Yeah ... Oh good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2907] [laugh] .
[2908] Reckon they ought to replace super glue with baked beans you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [2909] Yeah, or cornflakes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2910] Yeah, milk and cornflakes.
[2911] [...] cornflakes.
Tony (PS0V4) [2912] Deadly combination.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2913] Never [...] on the worktop [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2914] Just making sure ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2915] No, I think it needs cutting, [...] a lot more, [...] going browner and more miserable [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2916] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2917] I don't know though it's difficult to tell, I mean that one that's lost a leaf but the rest of it looks ... alright.
Tony (PS0V4) [2918] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2919] That one [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [2920] Oops, sorry ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2921] Those light bulbs that seemed to go like mad are erm Tesco's own brand.
Tony (PS0V4) [2922] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2923] I just replaced one in the lamp in there and it was a Phillips one and I haven't bought any of those for ages, do you know what I mean
Tony (PS0V4) [2924] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2925] So I think they've lasted alright.
[2926] It was
Tony (PS0V4) [2927] The Tesco ones don't seem to last very long.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2928] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [2929] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2930] So I think I'll get them up at Asda, get the Phillips one's I think.
Tony (PS0V4) [2931] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2932] I do wonder whether they keep [...] or whether [...] [laugh] , do you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [2933] No.
[2934] It's more likely to be the light bulb.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2935] I know, just that when your house needs a re-wiring got [...] you worry ... I wished they never ... got rid off her new Christmas one, just think all the money we've spent on
Tony (PS0V4) [2936] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2937] doing up this house so far.
Tony (PS0V4) [2938] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2939] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2940] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2941] Of borrowing money, [...] , we've got kitchen done, bathroom, the doors and new windows, to re-wire everything
Tony (PS0V4) [2942] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2943] all on home improvements.
Tony (PS0V4) [2944] They paid ninety per cent didn't they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2945] Yeah.
[2946] Of course what happens, just before we buy our house it stops [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2947] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2948] [...] , yeah they take ninety per cent of the [...] .
[2949] I mean you could have a whole new roof put on your house and it would cost about six thousand, seven thousand pounds and
Tony (PS0V4) [2950] You pay
Jackie (PS0V5) [2951] you pay six hundred.
Tony (PS0V4) [2952] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2953] I tell you what we'd have the best house round here if a ... I can't get over that lady over the road though and her husband.
Tony (PS0V4) [2954] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2955] They [...] , they painted there house a year ago and they've done it again this year, you can't tell where it's stopped and where it's done, do you know what I mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [2956] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2957] It just didn't need doing.
Tony (PS0V4) [2958] Whereas our house badly needs painting doesn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2959] The, you know, [...] , yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [2960] Oh, like everything else.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2961] [...] .
[2962] [...] throwing the money away.
Tony (PS0V4) [2963] Mm, shall I go out with Fido now?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2964] Yeah.
[2965] Take Fido for a walk.
[2966] Are you gonna take Fido for a walk? [...] go for a walk.

57 (Tape 010509)

Jackie (PS0V5) [2967] Have you got a photograph like [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2968] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2969] That's right, that's one Frankfurt and one [...] , bet you [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [2970] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [2971] You had the [...] last year.
Tony (PS0V4) [2972] That's right, yeah ... Ah.
Rene (PS0V7) [2973] Pity they didn't [...] postcard ones weren't it [...] , so they gave it [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2974] Well I can't understand it, it's at the other [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [2975] Mm, this time they, you've got four [...] ones, and two medium sized ones, they sort off, almost as if there doing you out of a big size photograph.
Tony (PS0V4) [2976] Yeah.

58 (Tape 010510)

Rene (PS0V7) [2977] Granddad got to give you some as well aren't he?
Jackie (PS0V5) [2978] What's that?
Rene (PS0V7) [2979] Were having a week [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [2980] Ah.
Rene (PS0V7) [2981] Oh ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2982] And what's your next [...] ...
Rene (PS0V7) [2983] [...] what was the [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2984] Erm, maximum prize.
Rene (PS0V7) [2985] Yeah, well what's it, I mean what's the [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2986] One, he said.
Rene (PS0V7) [2987] Well [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [2988] No, there's something else [...] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [2989] You got twenty [...] ... There you've got to [...] .

59 (Tape 010511)

Tony (PS0V4) [2990] Ok ... that's fifty nine each ...
Christine (PS0V6) [2991] Dad.
Tony (PS0V4) [2992] No, one eighteen.
Christine (PS0V6) [2993] Can I have seventy five erm seventy five P for my [...] money.
Tony (PS0V4) [2994] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2995] Is that being recording?
Tony (PS0V4) [2996] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [2997] [...] ok, come on nan pay up.
Tony (PS0V4) [2998] [laugh] .
Rene (PS0V7) [2999] [...] . [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [3000] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3001] I have to go upstairs and get it.
Christine (PS0V6) [3002] Ok, sorry dad, but I need it in [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3003] Yeah ok.
[3004] Oh, no I haven't, got it here.
[3005] Ah ... Ah, [sigh] right, I haven't got the change yet at the moment, I'll have to ...
Rene (PS0V7) [3006] You got to take it
Christine (PS0V6) [3007] I've got the change, you pay me back, I might have, alright.
Tony (PS0V4) [3008] I mean, I've only got a five pound note.
[3009] Have you got enough change to give her one pound fifty Jack?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3010] I've got a pound coin, but I don't think I've got any [...] , I'll have a look ... ooh let's have a look, I think I've only got a pound coin.
Rene (PS0V7) [3011] I've got a [...] Jack .
Christine (PS0V6) [3012] I've only got ten [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3013] Oh, that would be a help.
[3014] Have a look ... Right so if I give you ... one fifty, there you are.
Christine (PS0V6) [3015] Seventy five P each.
Rene (PS0V7) [3016] That's one fifty, that's right.
Tony (PS0V4) [3017] You have that towards the, though I've got to give you seventy, seventy five so shall I give it to you when I've got the whole lot?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3018] I [...] I'm not worried.
Tony (PS0V4) [3019] Ok.
Christine (PS0V6) [3020] Where you out on the front, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3021] Oh you can write, read a form can't you?
Christine (PS0V6) [3022] Oh no, my writing's [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3023] Your writing's [...] good.
Christine (PS0V6) [3024] No it isn't.
Tony (PS0V4) [blowing nose] ...
Christine (PS0V6) [3025] Dad
Tony (PS0V4) [3026] [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [3027] Can I borrow your [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3028] Yeah ... Gets this [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3029] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3030] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3031] Oh.

60 (Tape 010512)

Tony (PS0V4) [3032] I'll cut some rolls, shall I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3033] Ok
Tony (PS0V4) [3034] Oh yeah, shall I go and find out?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3035] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3036] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3037] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3038] What have we got?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3039] Cheese or there's a little, there's a little it of beef.
Tony (PS0V4) [3040] Cheese or beef rolls?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3041] Cheese please.
Tony (PS0V4) [3042] Rene?
Rene (PS0V7) [3043] Nothing for me yet Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [3044] No rolls at all?
Rene (PS0V7) [3045] No thanks.
Tony (PS0V4) [3046] Ok ... I wonder if, shall I ask Christine?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3047] Yeah, she might as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [3048] Do you want some rolls Christine?
Christine (PS0V6) [3049] Erm ... two?
Tony (PS0V4) [3050] Yeah, what do you want on them, Marmite?
[3051] Ok.
Christine (PS0V6) [3052] As usual
Tony (PS0V4) [3053] Christine will have them, Rene doesn't want any at all.
[3054] If there's only a bit of beef you have the beef and I'll have some cheese.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3055] What [...] , are you sure?
Tony (PS0V4) [3056] Yeah and some for Christine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3057] Well that's two for you, two for dad, one for me and one for Christine, I don't want [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3058] Ok ... I'm happy with that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3059] You sure?
Tony (PS0V4) [3060] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3061] Cos I don't mind cheese and Marmite [...] if you have the beef.
Tony (PS0V4) [3062] No, it's alright, I'll have the cheese.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3063] [...] that's ok then.
Tony (PS0V4) [3064] Yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3065] My love, will you do me a favour then, you do it all up, cos it won't keep you know .
Tony (PS0V4) [3066] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3067] It won't keep until after the weekend, but it'll be alright t today.
Tony (PS0V4) [3068] Aha.
[3069] do dum ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3070] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3071] I, she's been ripping all the newspaper [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3072] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3073] Great.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3074] She's got have a clean out tomorrow so we'll be able to tidy up all again [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3075] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3076] Until she decides to have another ripping [...] ... I'll be glad next year when they go out in the garden again, do you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [3077] Yeah, it'll be nice and you can fix , fix them up a run and ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3078] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3079] Do you want me to do crisps or anything?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3080] Yeah, [...] crisps, [laugh] , no [laugh] , oh your horrible licked that, oh look at that?
Tony (PS0V4) [3081] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3082] Oh, yuk ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3083] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3084] Your horrible, er yuk ... told you it's an extravagant.
Tony (PS0V4) [3085] It'll be more extravagant to let it go to waste ... .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3086] You know how to do [...] don't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [3087] No, I never do it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3088] I just don't know [...] at the end.
Tony (PS0V4) [3089] Yeah.
[3090] Neither do I.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3091] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [3092] I said neither do I [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3093] [...] have such a good time [...] [laugh] .
[3094] Sort of.
Tony (PS0V4) [3095] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3096] Got to find it first. [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3097] Cupboards fine it's eh, in fact there's too much stuff in it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3098] [laugh] .
[3099] Weren't so many [...] ... Ooh, where's my pickled of walnuts gone? where are my pickled walnuts, there in here somewhere.
Tony (PS0V4) [3100] I [...] to get down in the cupboard.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3101] No, I don't think it's gonna be there.
Tony (PS0V4) [3102] Oh ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3103] Oh, I hate this cupboard.
[3104] [...] . Oh Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [3105] I don't know what you've done
Jackie (PS0V5) [3106] Wanna scream ... Oh, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3107] I hope not ... I see if they want any ... do you want, do, do you want any crisps?
Rene (PS0V7) [3108] Well I'll have half a packet with you, but chipsticks if you've got them.
Tony (PS0V4) [3109] Mm, mm.
Rene (PS0V7) [3110] Just have half.
Tony (PS0V4) [3111] Ok.
Rene (PS0V7) [3112] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3113] Got any chipsticks?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3114] I think so.
[3115] Oh [...] did leave them in there [...] ... perhaps I've put them up on the shelf.
[3116] No, there they are.
[3117] [...] . Perhaps when you loose your pickled walnuts.
Tony (PS0V4) [3118] That's right, yes.
[3119] That's alright.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3120] [shouting] Mum would you like a pickled walnut? []
Rene (PS0V7) [3121] No thanks.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3122] Oh no, she's not having anything [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3123] Chipsticks and a pickled walnut [laugh] , yuk ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3124] Oh, I've [...] when and got that great big jar of them for Christmas.
Tony (PS0V4) [3125] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3126] I know they cost a fortune, but oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [3127] Yeah, cost a fortune.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3128] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [3129] Yeah, cost a fortune ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3130] Now what you do with this [...] .
[3131] Two teaspoon [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3132] That's right, yeah.
[3133] With about a third of a cup of milk, you mix it up with some sugar and then you put boiling water in.
[3134] One, one full teaspoon.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3135] Right.
Tony (PS0V4) [3136] [laugh] , find a space for it again there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3137] I must sort this cupboard out because there's plenty of room in [...] there.
Tony (PS0V4) [3138] Oh, yeah.
[3139] Do you want some crisps?

61 (Tape 010513)

Rene (PS0V7) [3140] See you Monday, yeah cheerio, bye, bye
Jackie (PS0V5) [3141] Cheerio
Rene (PS0V7) [3142] Cheerio my love .
Tony (PS0V4) [3143] See you, yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [3144] Bye, bye Christine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3145] Safe journey .
Tony (PS0V4) [3146] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [3147] Cheerio, see you Monday, [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3148] Take care.
Rene (PS0V7) [3149] You pick your paper up?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3150] No, I don't want take it.
Rene (PS0V7) [3151] Do you want eh, all right then be brave, don't worry.
[3152] Ooh it's still wet out, it's still raining.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3153] Is it raining?
Rene (PS0V7) [3154] No, it's not raining.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3155] No, it's not raining oh that's good then.
Rene (PS0V7) [3156] So you [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3157] I, see you again then.
Tony (PS0V4) [3158] See you again.
Rene (PS0V7) [3159] Cheerio Tony .
Tony (PS0V4) [3160] Yeah , cheerio ... in't Christine ought to go to bed?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3161] Yeah.
[3162] Come on get undressed. [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3163] Yeah.
[3164] Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [3165] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3166] Are you miss moody?
Tony (PS0V4) [3167] Just at the moment yeah ...
Christine (PS0V6) [3168] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3169] Oh I wondered where that pen had got to ... now where's my cardigan? ... [...] put my cardigan on the floor.
Tony (PS0V4) [3170] Oh, that's nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3171] Charming, mind if I watch [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3172] No ... do you want me sort out the gerbils.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3173] Well if you wouldn't mind, I'll do the rabbit, guinea pig while you
Tony (PS0V4) [3174] Ok ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3175] We'll do half each [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3176] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3177] Erm, there is some more cabbage in the gerbils, can you take it out, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3178] Mm, mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3179] What did they have last night?
[3180] ... Last box of spring greens went off [...] horrible.
Tony (PS0V4) [3181] Is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3182] Yeah ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3183] I'll get them some fresh water as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3184] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [3185] I'll get, give them some fresh water as well.

62 (Tape 010514)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [3186] I'm still learning, so many things to think about when I'm driving.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3187] There are.
Tony (PS0V4) [3188] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3189] For I'm afraid my
Tony (PS0V4) [3190] I
Jackie (PS0V5) [3191] love there are, till it becomes automatic ,
Tony (PS0V4) [3192] Mm .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3193] it could take a little while.
Tony (PS0V4) [3194] I pulled up fairly tight behind a car
Jackie (PS0V5) [3195] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3196] and then I was trying to come out and I started to pull out into a gap and Brian said oh know, don't pull out ... I said oh okay, he said the thing is your fairly tight so your gonna have to come out slowly so you need a bigger gap than otherwise.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3197] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3198] And the gap wasn't really big enough, do you know what I mean?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3199] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3200] It would off been o okay if I just been able to pull out and drive down the road
Jackie (PS0V5) [3201] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3202] because I had to pull out round the stationery vehicle as well, I would off taken too long getting out
Jackie (PS0V5) [3203] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3204] and I'd have caused the other one to slow down.

63 (Tape 010515)

Jackie (PS0V5) [3205] Yeah, there's a lot to this driving business unfortunately.
Tony (PS0V4) [3206] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3207] So while your trying to do it, it, you [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3208] Yeah.
[3209] I've pulled the old greens out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3210] Good.
Tony (PS0V4) [3211] They didn't seemed to have that much of it actually.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3212] No, it's erm ... it's sometimes [...] .
[3213] It depends how they have to feel it [...] .
[3214] Oh, can you [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3215] Yeah ... Oh ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3216] Ah, you'll find some cupboard [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3217] Yeah.
[3218] A couple of tins of peas left out, try and find a space for them to go back in again.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3219] [laugh] .
[3220] Greater a man have died for laughter.
Tony (PS0V4) [3221] Not easier.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3222] Trying to get the peas back in the cupboard.

64 (Tape 010516)

Jackie (PS0V5) [3223] Oh ... could you hang on to that lot a minute.
[3224] Mind the carrots doesn't drop in.
Tony (PS0V4) [3225] Yep , ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3226] What you been doing stinker, look at the mess ... yeah, look at all this ooh.
[3227] Yeah, your not supposed to be coming out.
Tony (PS0V4) [3228] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3229] You little stinker.
[3230] Yes you are, your an old stinker, yes you are.
Tony (PS0V4) [3231] Shall I put this in there?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3232] Oh, good girl.
[3233] There, ooh [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3234] Oh, there's a good girl.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3235] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3236] Mm, she's got a lovely coat.
[3237] Ah cos of the food and the condition she's kept in isn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3238] [...] .
[3239] What you've been up to too?
[3240] Look.
Tony (PS0V4) [3241] Oh god, [clears throat] , I've checked, all this has got to be chucked away, has it?.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3242] Actually, I think this [...] some more hay , there's hardly any in there.
Tony (PS0V4) [3243] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3244] I'll have that.
Tony (PS0V4) [3245] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3246] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3247] Oh there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3248] Thanks.

65 (Tape 010517)

Christine (PS0V6) [3249] Mum
Tony (PS0V4) [3250] What, what is it Christine?
Christine (PS0V6) [3251] I go, I got to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3252] Ok.
Christine (PS0V6) [3253] I didn't want to [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3254] Alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [3255] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3256] Yeah, ok.
Christine (PS0V6) [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3257] Christine's gone to bed.
[3258] You alright?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3259] They eat the hay [...] ... They've bitten all the apple ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3260] Shall I er lock the front door and sort Ben out?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3261] Erm, please, and [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3262] Would you wanna , would you wanna sit for a bit before he goes back?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3263] What time is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [3264] Five to one.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3265] Drop of Sherry.
Tony (PS0V4) [3266] Mm, could do.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3267] Glass.
Tony (PS0V4) [3268] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3269] Ok.

66 (Tape 010601)

Tony (PS0V4) [3270] It's tape number four.
[3271] That one's alright, this one.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3272] That one start again.
Tony (PS0V4) [3273] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3274] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3275] Oh well.
[3276] Ah ... [...] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3277] [...] everything.
Tony (PS0V4) [3278] I wonder, I wonder what they get from some people you know.
[3279] Sorry.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3280] Must be fun.
Tony (PS0V4) [3281] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3282] Cut all our naughty bits out.
Tony (PS0V4) [3283] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3284] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3285] That's right.
[3286] I do find I'm conscious of it a lot of the time.
[3287] Other people probably can forget about it cos I'm wearing it, I feel conscious of it a lot of the time.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3288] I'm not, I must admit I don't think about it now, so if [...] wearing it puts you off.
Tony (PS0V4) [3289] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3290] You know what I mean, it's taking you [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3291] What I'll do when I'm, if all the if signs and buts are covered, I will put the mike on it's stand when I'm working tomorrow, put it on the desk and put the recorder in the, in my briefcase underneath the little desk
Jackie (PS0V5) [3292] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3293] cos there's a little coffee table sort of thing that I put my script on
Jackie (PS0V5) [3294] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3295] and put my brief case underneath it
Jackie (PS0V5) [3296] You'll have to take it home.
Tony (PS0V4) [3297] and the microphone on to on top.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3298] Have you read it again and realised what you're supposed to do you'll have to take some spare tapes in and spend lunch times [...] won't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [3299] Yeah, but that's, just one, I mean I'm not gonna record, if I try and record the whole of the course
Jackie (PS0V5) [3300] You can't.
Tony (PS0V4) [3301] I can't.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3302] True, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3303] That's right, but
Jackie (PS0V5) [3304] Because ok, yeah stuff remains anonymous
Tony (PS0V4) [3305] mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [3306] but you're giving people how, how to defraud benefit.
Tony (PS0V4) [3307] yeah, I can't do that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3308] Erm, so [...] you've got to do that.
Tony (PS0V4) [3309] No, oh, a lot of the session's when they're talking about data types and things like that ... oh I don't know, cos there's security aspects to that you see.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3310] Yeah, but then, if it's obscure that nobody apart from someone working in the office that'll understand it, does it matter?
Tony (PS0V4) [3311] The only way it would matter is that somebody breathes the information to, if they could get hold of a card, and get into an office, they could actually use the information to make a payment.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3312] If they knew how.
Tony (PS0V4) [3313] If they knew how.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3314] Mm, yeah, but be honest for what you're using, for what you've said, would they pick up that, with not having
Tony (PS0V4) [3315] Not unless .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3316] a computer in front of them and being able to look at it and do what you're saying?
Tony (PS0V4) [3317] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3318] Do you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [3319] Yeah, I'd, I'll have to blank it out the part when I'm talking about passwords and things as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3320] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3321] Cos they're all passwords that protect the system.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3322] Yeah ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3323] Yeah, but apart from that, you're right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3324] Yeah it's like ours we've got passwords.
Tony (PS0V4) [3325] Mm ... yeah and then everyone's got their own, I've got my own personal one as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3326] We've got our own personal one too, our [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3327] Mm ... no, mines more boring than that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3328] Is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [3329] My pin number.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3330] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [3331] I use my bank pin number, that way I don't forget it [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3332] Oh I see that, that's how you remember, oh the other day I went to look at Asda you know, put my card in the machine and my mind just went totally blank, do you think I could remember the dam number.
Tony (PS0V4) [3333] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3334] I stood there, in the end I keyed in a number which was one digit wrong
Tony (PS0V4) [3335] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3336] and I thought, it came out erm, incorrect pin number, please remove your card, I thought [...] at least I'm getting it back you know so I whipped it out, I said to mum, I'm gonna have to pay for this with a cheque, I said, I can't get the cash out, and she, she said why, and I said I, I forgotten my number [laugh] , I was getting in quite a panic cos I knew I didn't have it written down anywhere at home.
Tony (PS0V4) [3337] Yeah, mm.
[3338] Do you know what it is now?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3339] Yeah, I remembered it while I was walking round the shop, cos the more I yeah, the more I thought about it the worse I got when I stood by the machine.
Tony (PS0V4) [3340] That's alright then.
[3341] Cos I know yours, yeah, yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [3342] So I took my card and went in I thought well I'll pay for this by, by cheque
Tony (PS0V4) [3343] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3344] Erm, but I wanted some cash, so what I did in the end was walked round Asda remembered it, or thought I remembered it, came back out put the erm card back in and the terminal came up erm ... it's ok.
Tony (PS0V4) [3345] [laugh] nervous now, you're gonna be checking that quite a bit.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3346] Yeah the terminal came up erm, due to an error were unable to complete your transaction, so I thought oh great, so I can't have my money in any place
Tony (PS0V4) [3347] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3348] then I felt a real twit, cos a man came up and I said I think something's gone wrong with the auto bank machine, says I, it won't give me any money because it's, it's coming up there's an error, so he said well I'll try and see, he says, he put in exactly the same card as me, he had the Midland card, put it in, got his money
Tony (PS0V4) [3349] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3350] so I thought, right, I'm not going to be beaten, so I got, went back in again, put the card back in, gave me my money that time.
Tony (PS0V4) [3351] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3352] But, it, it wasn't saying I'd made, made an error
Tony (PS0V4) [3353] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3354] it was saying due to an error
Tony (PS0V4) [3355] There's probably some disruption to the ... to the transmission or something for an [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3356] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3357] Cos it only needs
Jackie (PS0V5) [3358] But I felt such a twit, cos I said to this man I, I don't know about you, but I can't get my money.
Tony (PS0V4) [3359] it only needs for a little bit of attention on a wire or something
Jackie (PS0V5) [3360] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3361] to just make it erm, shut out just for a split second
Jackie (PS0V5) [3362] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3363] and it'll throw the whole thing.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3364] But that was not a good day [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3365] [laughing] no [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3366] Oh, no I put a six where a five should be, in my pin number, that's all I did, but I just, I just stood there and my mind just completely went blank, I couldn't remember it at all.
[3367] And I'd already pushed the card in
Tony (PS0V4) [3368] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3369] so I had to key in something.
Tony (PS0V4) [3370] Mm, oh I [laugh] , I'd turned round, I can't remember what it was ... oh, what was it all about?
[3371] I was doing a training session and I said erm ... I'd, I'd started to say something and I'd done it, I was talking about something and I hadn't done the bit before
Jackie (PS0V5) [3372] mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3373] so they couldn't understand what I was saying, do you know what I mean?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3374] Yeah, [clears throat] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3375] and I said ... erm,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3376] Do you want to make [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3377] forget all about that, just let your mind go blank and I look round and I said cor that was quick [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3378] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3379] Cos they're all looking pretty blank anyway you know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3380] Yeah, [...] .
[3381] Ooh ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3382] Well I don't think information about the, the seven, what are the seven conditions of receipt of benefit and things like this would be a State secret.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3383] No, unemployed dirty old thing, [laughing] living in a caravan, with a big dog [] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [3384] Big, hairy and stroppy, you'll get whatever you like.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3385] [laughing] yeah [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3386] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3387] Oh yeah, [laugh] , big, hairy, stroppy, dirty thing whatever you like.
Tony (PS0V4) [3388] Not quite true, but
Jackie (PS0V5) [3389] Go on [laugh] ... doesn't it make you sort of ... bias when you actually work for the system?
Tony (PS0V4) [3390] Erm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3391] And you see the nice people coming in and not getting really
Tony (PS0V4) [3392] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3393] what's due to them, see somebody coming in threaten to punch somebodies lights out and they get all the
Tony (PS0V4) [3394] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3395] you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [3396] But then, to my mind, the person that who, who threatens to punch the lights out and gets whatever they want, everyone should get the degree of service.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3397] Yeah, but the don't, and unfortunately it's the nice people that suffer.
Tony (PS0V4) [3398] No , but it's up to the every individual to try and make sure that they do get that level of service.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3399] So what are, yeah but, if to get that level of service you've got to threaten somebody
Tony (PS0V4) [3400] Yeah well you, you shouldn't have to threaten somebody to get good service.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3401] no, but you do have to.
Tony (PS0V4) [3402] You shouldn't.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3403] No, but you do, in the, in the end.
Tony (PS0V4) [3404] Depends on the people.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3405] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3406] Depends on the actual person you see and what their attitude is.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3407] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3408] And I must admit once I'd been ... I'd, early on when I didn't know an awful lot, then, yeah, but, later on when I had been more experienced there wasn't, there was very little difference between how I treated people whether they made a fuss or not.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3409] Yeah, that's right, well that's the way it should be
Tony (PS0V4) [3410] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3411] but you're in the mi minority in, in actually
Tony (PS0V4) [3412] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3413] doing that and saying that, and that's wrong.
Tony (PS0V4) [3414] Mm, yeah, I'm
Jackie (PS0V5) [3415] But ,
Tony (PS0V4) [3416] [...] trying to do something about it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3417] yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3418] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3419] That's right, I mean the thing is you train people to do it properly
Tony (PS0V4) [3420] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3421] they then go back to their office and unfortunately a lot of what other people in the office are doing are taught
Tony (PS0V4) [3422] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3423] and that I think really have more of an influence, cos they're not going to change themselves into an individual
Tony (PS0V4) [3424] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3425] by doing something different to everyone else.
Tony (PS0V4) [3426] Yeah, I see what you mean.
[3427] They're not in a situation where they can take an individual line at that point.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3428] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [3429] It's only later on when they're more experienced that they can actually say, well hang on a minute ... I can do more for this person ... and I'm going to do more for this person.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3430] But I think that's the only thing were, if I worked in a benefit office I wouldn't get on very well, because if I saw something [...] I'd try and move heaven and earth to make ... everything to go right for me .
Tony (PS0V4) [3431] And that, and that would make you good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3432] Yeah, but in the beginning I'd get criticized for not being quick enough in my [...] ,
Tony (PS0V4) [3433] I don't know .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3434] because I'd chase people round to find, till I found out what I wanted to know.
Tony (PS0V4) [3435] Mm, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3436] Do you know what I mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [3437] The sort of things I'm talking about, I'm, I'm thinking of is ok somebody, a mistake's been made, somebody hasn't got their payment out
Jackie (PS0V5) [3438] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3439] alright, and the difference between that is er and then the degree of service that they get, erm you can say you'll get it in the post two days in, in two days, or you can say erm, we'll get a giro cheque written out for you, initial it to you at the counter
Jackie (PS0V5) [3440] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3441] at half past three ... or you can say ... if you'd like to, if you'd like to wait for half an hour, we'll get a giro cheque to, issued to you or if you'd rather you can come back at half past three and collect it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3442] Yeah, that unfortunately the majority of people say you'll get money in a couple of days, then the person would start to argue, because they need their money now to go and buy their shopping.
Tony (PS0V4) [3443] Yeah, yeah ... and that's ... [...] degrees of service
Jackie (PS0V5) [3444] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3445] I mean that, in that situation I would try and say sort of
Jackie (PS0V5) [3446] Me, I, I know .
Tony (PS0V4) [3447] Do you need the money urgently?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3448] Mm, and they're always going to say yes aren't they, unless they're a reasonable human being and has got a bit of money they can use .
Tony (PS0V4) [3449] Yeah , yeah, only erm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3450] But I must admit, I, I am a bit snobbish in it, I would move heaven and earth to help someone who ... looked clean and nice and had good manners.
Tony (PS0V4) [3451] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3452] If it was someone coming in with a nasty attitude really filthy, scruffy, dirty, no fixed address because they lived in er ... er, an old wagon some where
Tony (PS0V4) [3453] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3454] I think I'd be less inclined [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [3455] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3456] but having said that, I'd still give them
Tony (PS0V4) [3457] Only thing is dealing with the awkward people
Christine (PS0V6) [3458] Shall I get down?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3459] Yeah, yes please.
Tony (PS0V4) [3460] that distinguishes a professional to somebody who isn't.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3461] Oh yeah, I, I'd give them the same options but
Christine (PS0V6) [3462] Ow!
Jackie (PS0V5) [3463] with someone who's nice, put it that way, I'd almost definitely try, I'd get the, say that they could have the giro today
Tony (PS0V4) [3464] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3465] Straight away.
[3466] With someone who's not I'd try and get them to wait for a couple of days and then if they wouldn't I'd go through the [...] and get them it today.
Tony (PS0V4) [3467] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3468] Do, do you see the difference?
[3469] It wouldn't be, I wouldn't say oh no you can't have it, but I'd say well you'll receive it in a couple of days time and if they said oh well that's not good enough, then fair enough, you, you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [3470] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3471] But somebody who's nice I'd think no, why
Tony (PS0V4) [3472] Mm .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3473] should they have to wait because ... but the, I, these people they are [...] , they've opted out of society, they want nothing to do
Tony (PS0V4) [3474] They don't ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3475] with society apart from the giro cheque on paper
Tony (PS0V4) [3476] yeah well they don't
Jackie (PS0V5) [3477] they want
Tony (PS0V4) [3478] you don't have problems with their payments.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3479] no, no it's, it's the people that think the world owes them a living, but they don't want to give anything back and that really bugs me.
Tony (PS0V4) [3480] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3481] You know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [3482] Mm, mm, yeah, I must admit I wouldn't, I agree with what you say, where I wouldn't classify those people as being of no fixed abode, they're not necessarily of no fixed abode, there are a lot of people who would, living in flats and Council houses and things like that, they've got that attitude
Jackie (PS0V5) [3483] Who [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3484] and some of the people who were no fixed abode, actually trying very hard to get work.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3485] Mm, no, by no fixed abode I didn't mean, I did say the [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3486] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3487] It's the people that get
Tony (PS0V4) [3488] No, but, even, even some of those ... erm the only thing is they tend to get work and they tend not to tell you they've done it [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3489] No, it, no it's the one's that have opted out and they don't try to get work and they don't want work
Tony (PS0V4) [3490] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3491] those are the ones that I'd be, cos it's obvious, I mean, they've done no work in the past sort of twelve months
Tony (PS0V4) [3492] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3493] or nearly twelve months, and they're not trying because whatever people say, they do, the works there.
Tony (PS0V4) [3494] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3495] You've only got to go to the Job Centre and see all the jobs.
Christine (PS0V6) [3496] Mummy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3497] I mean
Tony (PS0V4) [3498] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3499] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [3500] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3501] Yeah, that's not bad.
Christine (PS0V6) [3502] Right, erm, mum
Jackie (PS0V5) [3503] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [3504] Do you know with this model, [...] those paints [...] with got to get it done by this Friday [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3505] Alright, I'll try and sort something out tomorrow.
Christine (PS0V6) [3506] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3507] Ok, only I haven't got time today, if we can do the [...] that today look, might as well get done really.
Tony (PS0V4) [3508] It is, it is a bit more complicated than that,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3509] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3510] in that er, some people would like to work, but the level, the amount of money they need coming in, is not in line with the amount they can realistically expect to earn, and that's a difficult situation.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3511] Yeah, but then they've got to adjust their life style.
Tony (PS0V4) [3512] Mm, erm, yeah, you can't adjust your life style by killing a couple of kids,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3513] Oh no ,
Tony (PS0V4) [3514] that's the only problem [laugh] , if you've got a large family and you've had a well paid job and then you loose it
Jackie (PS0V5) [3515] yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [3516] erm, and you're not likely to be able to get into that line of work again
Jackie (PS0V5) [3517] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3518] it, it can be quite difficult,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3519] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3520] but there are, what there wasn't before, that there is now is these, erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [3521] But, then, as I say , if you've got a fam if you, if you can get a job ... and you, you, it's their just life style adjusting.
Tony (PS0V4) [3522] well no, because what you can do know is you can go to somebody who will sit down with a mini computer and that's what you need, a mini computer and will sit down and will look at a job and will say right, if you take this job, it can also claim Family Credit of so much, and, and they actually do a, a sort of alternative benefit calculation, and what they do is they look at, if you take this job and take all the other things into account, will you be better off?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3523] Mm.
[3524] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3525] And they'll actually sit down and work that out for people and encourage them to go for a job and give them all the forms they need to claim Family Credit or whatever.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3526] Well that's what I was gonna say, if the system works properly there's no way.
Tony (PS0V4) [3527] But sometimes people fall through the cracks
Jackie (PS0V5) [3528] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3529] and if, you can actually have somebody go, who's interested in going for a job, and when you do that sort of calculation they end up they're gonna be worse off.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3530] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3531] And that shouldn't be allowed to happen, but it does.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3532] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3533] Because it doesn't su , it doesn't match the whole, there, there are holes in it .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3534] Yeah, so, so what happens then if they say I'm not even going to that interview then because I couldn't live on it, even with all the other benefits, what happens then?
Tony (PS0V4) [3535] Right, erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [3536] See this is it, they get punished then, don't they, for not ... for not trying.
Tony (PS0V4) [3537] Well, erm, as I understand it er calculations for [...] in work benefit at erm, by somebody who's separate from the normal benefit section
Jackie (PS0V5) [3538] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3539] and I don't think they, they will pass on information about somebody actually refusing to take a job
Jackie (PS0V5) [3540] Because of the pay.
Tony (PS0V4) [3541] because of the pay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3542] Oh ...
Tony (PS0V4) [3543] But, the system ought to be water tight, so that people are better off
Jackie (PS0V5) [3544] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3545] but the trouble is it's so complicated there are always exceptions and problems that cause
Jackie (PS0V5) [3546] Yeah, but I mean, be honest, you, you say that, but people have got to be prepared to adjust as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [3547] Oh yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3548] Because you say someone with a large family and they need a lot of money, you see someone with a large family
Tony (PS0V4) [3549] Yeah, [clears throat] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3550] [...] Child Benefit or something like that
Tony (PS0V4) [3551] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3552] and they're not given a large amount of money
Tony (PS0V4) [3553] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3554] and there's somebody else saying oh I need five hundred pounds a month more than that, to live ... and you think well, hang on
Tony (PS0V4) [3555] Well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3556] You, know, if, if these two people with the same number of kids can live for this
Tony (PS0V4) [3557] yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [3558] why should this person need five hundred pound a month more.
Tony (PS0V4) [3559] What you've got to take into account is that, an all, there's an awful lot of things that you get when your unemployed that stop when you find a job.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3560] Oh yeah, cos I mean I know they pay mortgage for you, well not mortgage, but interest on your mortgage.
Tony (PS0V4) [3561] Interest on mortgage, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3562] So you've certainly got to erm start paying the mortgage again.
Tony (PS0V4) [3563] mm.
[3564] Also if you're in rented accommodation you're claiming housing benefit, you'll probably haven't got to pay any rent, specially if it's Council there's relief, relief from paying
Jackie (PS0V5) [3565] Provided, if your pay is that low .
Tony (PS0V4) [3566] community charge, which you don't get any more once you start working.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3567] Well you do.
Tony (PS0V4) [3568] Well
Jackie (PS0V5) [3569] Depending on your circumstances
Tony (PS0V4) [3570] it depend, it depending on your circumstances, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3571] That's what I'm saying you'll still get people who, they don't qualify for any of these benefits [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [3572] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3573] because of what they're earning
Tony (PS0V4) [3574] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3575] and they're still saying they're not getting enough
Tony (PS0V4) [3576] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3577] those are the people who need to adjust what, how they're living and they don't.
Tony (PS0V4) [3578] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3579] They've got a big car, they've got a big house
Tony (PS0V4) [3580] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3581] you know, say to them buy a smaller house and Phrr, you know you'd never
Tony (PS0V4) [3582] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3583] never hear the end of it.
Tony (PS0V4) [3584] Erm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3585] I mean it was like Deborah and Dave, can you remember?
Tony (PS0V4) [3586] I believe, ah , I believe the D S S do look at the situation, but they, before, yeah ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3587] Do you remember Deborah and Dave?,
Tony (PS0V4) [3588] before they actually suggest to somebody that they sell a house, that they sell a house and moved to a smaller one, they have to be unemployed for quite some time.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3589] yeah, but I mean they just desperately wanted to get away from Bristol
Tony (PS0V4) [3590] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3591] because of what happened with the accident
Tony (PS0V4) [3592] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3593] what have you, and they moved from that really nice house
Tony (PS0V4) [3594] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3595] that they had
Tony (PS0V4) [3596] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3597] and that was Deborah's mother's house, that was where Deborah was brought up and where I used to go and play with her when we were little
Tony (PS0V4) [3598] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3599] and of course her mum moved to Cornwall and Deborah bought the house of off her, a bit cheaper than they would have bought on the ... they moved down to Cornwall and they bought a much smaller house, much, much smaller.
Tony (PS0V4) [3600] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3601] I mean she had three or four children
Tony (PS0V4) [3602] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3603] so she's still needed, I think she bought a three bedroomed house which meant she had two girls ... two girls and a boy, she had three children.
Tony (PS0V4) [3604] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3605] No two boys and a girl, so it meant that two boys have to share a bedroom which they weren't doing in that other house ... and David's been unemployed well
Tony (PS0V4) [3606] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3607] I say, they did just that, they sold up, moved down to Cornwall where her mum lives and bought a much smaller place.
Tony (PS0V4) [3608] Yeah.
[3609] D S S don't help with the mortgage, at the first I think it's ten weeks as well, but I think [...] help with the mortgage at all .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3610] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3611] Unless people are insured for that sort of period in time any way.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3612] [clears throat] , yeah are we?
Tony (PS0V4) [3613] I don't think we are.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3614] No, because of the type of job.
Tony (PS0V4) [3615] Yeah.
[3616] Oh, I don't know if we would be.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3617] I don't know, but it's, I don't know I, it's a very difficult sort of situation where you get, there are so many things to look into, and it's not being done well enough
Tony (PS0V4) [3618] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3619] basically.
Tony (PS0V4) [3620] It's very, very complicated.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3621] Mm, it is, but it's still not being done well as
Tony (PS0V4) [3622] There's no way it should be that complicated ... a lot of the problems are caused by the rules being so complicated that you have to be working in that particular field
Jackie (PS0V5) [3623] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3624] with two or three years before you really know what's going on
Jackie (PS0V5) [3625] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3626] and in Avon we've got erm ... we've got a large turn over of staff
Jackie (PS0V5) [3627] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3628] people don't stay out long, so you don't get many people getting up to two or three years experience, the one's that stay on that long stay
Jackie (PS0V5) [3629] Oh yeah , they, they're very good.
Tony (PS0V4) [3630] They're, and they're very good and they, they tend to stay a long time.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3631] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3632] But then they tend to get promoted and move on to other things.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3633] Yeah, but I, I think the reason I feel a bit bitter about it is living round here, you see all the dirties and the scruffies, you get annoyed, absolute no order, they've crawled into the system right up to and doing openly in front of you
Tony (PS0V4) [3634] Yeah, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3635] and you think well to hell with it, they should be, come down on hard.
Tony (PS0V4) [3636] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3637] You, you know, you
Tony (PS0V4) [3638] Yeah ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3639] just see them all getting away with it and they makes me thing something ought to be done, which has the people that lose out or the people who go in there very politely, fill out their claim
Tony (PS0V4) [3640] mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3641] suffered at home and because of all the dirties and scruffies making a fuss they don't get attended to properly
Tony (PS0V4) [3642] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3643] and that's what makes me evil, that's why I say I'd moved heaven and earth for someone who's nice
Tony (PS0V4) [3644] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3645] and [...] for someone who's not.
Tony (PS0V4) [3646] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3647] Because you know dam well that those people, the ones that are not and are making the fuss are probably the ones that lead, need the money least.
Tony (PS0V4) [3648] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3649] Cos er, somebody I can think off with a, not a million miles from here is working and claiming
Tony (PS0V4) [3650] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3651] I know that ... I mean he's actually thick enough to go up there and sign on in his overalls.
Tony (PS0V4) [3652] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3653] Then he says, oh he's working on cars for the family, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [3654] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3655] You know, and you, you know dam well he's, he's defrauded the system.
Tony (PS0V4) [3656] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3657] When, and he'll be the one going up there shouting.
[3658] Somebody like Hilary
Tony (PS0V4) [3659] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3660] that needs all the help she can get goes up there and
Tony (PS0V4) [3661] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3662] gets little ... You know it just doesn't seem right at all.
Tony (PS0V4) [3663] Mm.
[3664] Erm ... I wouldn't ... there are ten per cent, well perhaps less than ten per cent who are absolute loonies.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3665] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3666] Erm, but an awful lot of people who would go up and make a fuss ... may not get this, the same level of services erm, somebody who went up there and was nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3667] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3668] They might get less.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3669] Yeah, perhaps it's just that I know some of the loonies that go up there and get what they want every time.
Tony (PS0V4) [3670] Well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3671] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3672] The thing is you have to look at your source of information for that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3673] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3674] They might think they're getting away with it, a lot of people who, who, I mean being unemployed isn't, you tend, people tend to feel devalued and so if they can think oh, they've put one over on that, on the er, benefit office, then they'll go and brag down the pub about it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3675] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3676] Whereas in actual fact if they come in very nicely and ask very nicely, they might have got more than they actually got here when they came in shouting and yelling.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3677] Mm, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3678] [laugh] , but then, when you come to the lunatic fringe ... then supervisor's will cut an awful lot of corners to prevent them busting up the office or punching somebody in the nose, a real, I don't mean people who are just stroppy, I mean the real lunatic [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3679] Yeah, yeah, big red L written on their claim.
Tony (PS0V4) [3680] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3681] [laugh] , I know, ha, ha, I can sue you, you take care.
Tony (PS0V4) [3682] Yeah, I mean there are some virile people who are mentally sub normal.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3683] Oh yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3684] There are people who are mentally ill, for one reason or another, there are people on drugs, there are people who are alcoholics and when those people come in, in that state, you minimize the areas of confrontation.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3685] So when you say to them sorry you don't get any money because they're not entitled to it what happens then?
Tony (PS0V4) [3686] Well there's only one thing you can do any way.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3687] Yeah.
[3688] You see the [...] it's gonna happen eventually with all these people, there's gonna come a time where's something gonna happen that they're not gonna like
Tony (PS0V4) [3689] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3690] you know,
Tony (PS0V4) [3691] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3692] erm, as long as, cos they can only claim benefit for a certain length of time can't they?, then it switches from unemployment to Social Security .
Tony (PS0V4) [3693] Income Support , yeah, but Income Support, paid indefinitely.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3694] Yeah, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3695] And Income Support is a lot more than Unemployment Benefit anyway.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3696] It is, is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [3697] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3698] Oh, I didn't think it was.
Tony (PS0V4) [3699] Yeah, Unemployment Benefit is only forty one quid a week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3700] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [3701] Or sixty five if you're claiming for a wife, [laugh] , what good is that?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3702] Well, you said what good is that, it's more than mum and dad's er pension ... it's more than dad's pension
Tony (PS0V4) [3703] Ah, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3704] and he's claimed [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3705] I don't think you've got that right somehow, there's no way, that retirement pension will be less than Income Benefit, it's always a bit more.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3706] Well, it works out
Tony (PS0V4) [3707] that's based on National Insurance Contributions.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3708] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [3709] And dad's in receipt of a, in receipt of a full pension.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3710] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3711] Right, he's getting more than sixty, sixty five quid a week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3712] Yeah, but it's not a lot more.
Tony (PS0V4) [3713] Ok, it might not be a lot more, it might be seventy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3714] Mm, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3715] But it's always a bit more.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3716] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3717] Because they
Jackie (PS0V5) [3718] They ought to be a lot more that's the thing.
Tony (PS0V4) [3719] because people who are signing on will er, well,pe he's, he could still claim Income Support.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3720] He can't.
Tony (PS0V4) [3721] He's got too much money coming in then.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3722] Yeah, cos he's got a private pension of one hundred pounds a month as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [3723] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3724] Cos they get hardly any rent rebate now, hardly any oh, but, well, Poll Tax, they pay nineteen pounds each
Tony (PS0V4) [3725] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3726] which is practically the same as were paying.
Tony (PS0V4) [3727] It is the same.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3728] Yeah, [clears throat] , they get no relief there, no relief any where else.
Tony (PS0V4) [3729] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3730] I mean, I be honest I don't know how they do it, because I do know what they've got coming in
Tony (PS0V4) [3731] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3732] I mean they've got their old age pension and dad's private pension and that's it.
[3733] Erm, I don't know how they live, yet they always seemed to have enough money ... you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [3734] They get help with the rent?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3735] About one pound odd a week.
[3736] Rene said they're twenty four pound a week.
Tony (PS0V4) [3737] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3738] They get practically no help at all and yet mum still manages to sort of save a bit
Tony (PS0V4) [3739] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3740] and I think well where are they going short, because they must be.
Tony (PS0V4) [3741] Mm, it's a thought, they seemed to be able to manage ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3742] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3743] I mean, were, were be in a totally different situation.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3744] Yeah, but then we've got three hundred pound mortgage, which they haven't got, I mean we've got different circumstances.
Tony (PS0V4) [3745] Yeah, but, we will be totally different situation .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3746] Oh yeah, when , when we retire.
Tony (PS0V4) [3747] Cos we'll end up with no mortgage, we'll get I don't, I don't know, if I ... , I must admit I rather fancy the erm, the old er ... the erm, a re-employed pensioner, I don't know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3748] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3749] It's quite a good one.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3750] What going down to E.O.
Tony (PS0V4) [3751] Well I can work till I'm sixty two as an E.O.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3752] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3753] Or Sixty as an H.E.O.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3754] Would you want to?
Tony (PS0V4) [3755] What, you could then do which I think would probably help, cos you see you don't get State Retirement Pension till you're sixty five
Jackie (PS0V5) [3756] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3757] but what I, what would be a possibility at sixty two, when I'm at that point, I'd be receiving half pay
Jackie (PS0V5) [3758] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3759] as a pension, so if I'd retired at that point, and then worked part time
Jackie (PS0V5) [3760] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3761] to keep your green matter in the wear
Jackie (PS0V5) [3762] Yeah, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3763] As an A O somewhere.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3764] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3765] So I'll reach State Retirement Age we can, end up with virtually full pay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3766] Yeah,
Tony (PS0V4) [3767] When I've, I've got
Jackie (PS0V5) [3768] that's if I was still working.
Tony (PS0V4) [3769] I'd be working part time for full pay [laugh] , if you see what I mean
Jackie (PS0V5) [3770] Yeah, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3771] and then at retirement age I would continue to receive half pay plus retirement pen State Retirement Pension
Jackie (PS0V5) [3772] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3773] which be, at the equivalent of about seventy quid a week as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3774] Yeah, I h , I honestly think though that when erm ... I don't know, you see, cos I, I's been saying oh when I get a chance I'll get a transfer out of my office
Tony (PS0V4) [3775] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3776] because of they way it's run
Tony (PS0V4) [3777] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3778] but they way it is at the moment, with me able to use the car for work
Tony (PS0V4) [3779] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3780] and things, you think is it worth it because the car would be sat out here, if, if say, say I transferred and still did three days but did it when you work
Tony (PS0V4) [3781] Mm, yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [3782] in the building you work in
Tony (PS0V4) [3783] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3784] I wouldn't be able to use my car
Tony (PS0V4) [3785] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3786] so, I'd have to pay bus fare
Tony (PS0V4) [3787] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3788] so I'd be paying, we'd be paying for our petrol which wouldn't be a lot different to what it is now really
Tony (PS0V4) [3789] No ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3790] a bit, two or three pounds a week perhaps
Tony (PS0V4) [3791] mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3792] and I'd be paying a lot more in bus fare
Tony (PS0V4) [3793] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3794] plus you haven't got the convenience of being able to go and get in your car
Tony (PS0V4) [3795] Yeah, cos standing about waiting for buses is not fun.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3796] No, you know, if I could work somewhere in an office where I could use my car
Tony (PS0V4) [3797] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3798] then that would be great
Tony (PS0V4) [3799] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3800] but you'd want to be able to know that you can ... I don't know, I mean, I [sigh] , I think, with, with the place I am now ... I just don't know what to make of it really
Tony (PS0V4) [3801] No, I think the thing is, is once you, this is gonna sound awful, but once you've done your time and you know as much or more, then you're E O ... then you're gonna be left alone to get on with your job.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3802] What do you mean love, we've always been left alone to get
Tony (PS0V4) [3803] Yeah ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3804] on with the job.
Tony (PS0V4) [3805] what I mean is, that you're not gonna have, erm ... you're not gonna have interference like you had lately, ya, not gonna have comments like you had lately.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3806] Huh, there'll always be
Tony (PS0V4) [3807] And , and you feel, comfortable with what you're doing, you won't have to erm, you won't have to worry about the work, if you know what I mean, you'll know how to do it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3808] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3809] Once you've got that, I, I think you might well fined that it's quite nice and comfortable to stay there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3810] Yeah, well this is it, I think
Tony (PS0V4) [3811] Rather than, rather than face moving into Benefit where it is very fraught at times and in a situa , and coping with that as well as not knowing what you doing isn't nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3812] You, you say it's very fraught in Benefit at times, I don't think you appreciate what I do,
Tony (PS0V4) [3813] right, you are very busy
Jackie (PS0V5) [3814] no, when you get someone's relative phoning up because they've just been crushed under a lump of machinery, that's is very fraught.
Tony (PS0V4) [3815] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3816] Having to deal with that person
Tony (PS0V4) [3817] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3818] why aren't you prosecuting the company because my son has just been killed
Tony (PS0V4) [3819] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3820] and who has to deal with it, da da.
Tony (PS0V4) [3821] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3822] Not, you know, the inspector's are out, where you can't reached them on the phone.
Tony (PS0V4) [3823] You've never talked about that before.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3824] Oh no, no it happens.
Tony (PS0V4) [3825] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3826] Quite a bit.
Tony (PS0V4) [3827] And that's, that's on a par with the sort of problem we get in benefit
Jackie (PS0V5) [3828] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3829] and somebody comes in, Aunt Maud has just died, what do I do?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3830] Yeah, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3831] You think, oh [laugh] , and it
Jackie (PS0V5) [3832] Yeah, but , the thing is with that it's very different because, [sigh] , it's not your fault
Tony (PS0V4) [3833] Ok, erm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3834] erm they're not coming to you and saying, my wife has been killed why aren't you doing anything about it,
Tony (PS0V4) [3835] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3836] they're coming to you and saying my wife has been killed please can you help me which is
Tony (PS0V4) [3837] My kid ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3838] is different.
[3839] They're coming to you asking for help
Tony (PS0V4) [3840] yeah, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3841] whereas they're coming to us and blaming you
Tony (PS0V4) [3842] Mm, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3843] you know
Tony (PS0V4) [3844] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3845] For doing nothing, which is
Tony (PS0V4) [3846] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3847] you know, if the help and safety executive had done this, this and insured that this was right and that was right
Tony (PS0V4) [3848] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3849] this wouldn't have happened.
Tony (PS0V4) [3850] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3851] You know, that's a bit different to my wife has died please can you help me
Tony (PS0V4) [3852] Yeah , yeah,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3853] sort things out.
Tony (PS0V4) [3854] another scenario that comes up quite often is that, somebody comes in and say my kids haven't had any food all over the weekend because you didn't send out a giro ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3855] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3856] that be a [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [3857] Yeah, but mine [...] they're lying instead.
Tony (PS0V4) [3858] [laugh] , well you,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3859] [laughing] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3860] you won't [...] sometimes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3861] Yes, that means
Tony (PS0V4) [3862] Yeah, but
Jackie (PS0V5) [3863] my kids haven't had any food all weekend that I've paid for because you didn't send me my giro, they've had their meals because they've been round there at grandma's, but I'm not telling you that, yeah, you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [3864] Yeah.
[3865] I went down the pub on Saturday and drank it, all the rest of my benefit.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3866] Yeah, quite.
Tony (PS0V4) [3867] But, that's, that's what you're faced with sometimes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3868] Yeah, I mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [3869] But, yeah, I mean
Jackie (PS0V5) [3870] I mean we get it as well, it's not, you so sort of say oh my jobs a cosy little job, but it's not that cosy believe me, you get put in some very awkward situations .
Tony (PS0V4) [3871] no, I didn't, I didn't want to say that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3872] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [3873] I didn't want to say that because I didn't, I don't think it is a cosy little job
Jackie (PS0V5) [3874] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [3875] especially with the management's support you get.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3876] Well we don't get any.
Tony (PS0V4) [3877] That's what I meant .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3878] From the management we get positive hinderance not support.
Tony (PS0V4) [3879] [laugh] , yeah, that's what I meant.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3880] I mean, my immediate management, [...] , now in, in a crisis she's brilliant, you see, I, I don't know whether this with this the other day, whether she didn't ... go to see Paul to see what I'd say
Tony (PS0V4) [3881] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3882] because I'd said this, and I don't know whether she was sussing me out
Tony (PS0V4) [3883] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3884] a bit as well, cos I've, I've said that, he's said something to me ... and,
Tony (PS0V4) [3885] Ok.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3886] and I don't know whether she took me down to see him to see if I'd backed down
Tony (PS0V4) [3887] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3888] and I didn't, because he said it.
Tony (PS0V4) [3889] Mm, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3890] And I think she was
Tony (PS0V4) [3891] No, I ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3892] quite pleased with me cos she said, don't get irate, don't get upset, and I didn't.
Tony (PS0V4) [3893] no.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3894] I talked him down at one point
Tony (PS0V4) [3895] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3896] cos he kept doing it to me so I did it to him.
Tony (PS0V4) [3897] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3898] He wouldn't let me say something and I tried about three times and in the end I just kept talking,
Tony (PS0V4) [3899] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3900] it was a case of you stop, let [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3901] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3902] But I don't know anybody in there who hasn't had a really good shout at him at some point, and that's all, that's including A O's
Tony (PS0V4) [3903] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3904] you know, and when Ah
Tony (PS0V4) [3905] Yeah , the one thing you have got there is that people are prepared to take him on.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3906] Yeah, they are, Julie will
Tony (PS0V4) [3907] Mm, whereas, if you
Jackie (PS0V5) [3908] and Joyce definitely will [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3909] yeah, whereas if you had the situation where people weren't prepared to take him on, it could be awful
Jackie (PS0V5) [3910] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [3911] you have people leaving hand over fist.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3912] They have now.
Tony (PS0V4) [3913] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3914] I mean they've got a job to keep people.
Tony (PS0V4) [3915] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3916] Since I've been there, they've had.
Tony (PS0V4) [3917] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3918] I think A.O's, they, they, the A O's tend to stay
Tony (PS0V4) [3919] Does they tend to have more gumption, they tend to have to stand up to him in the end .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3920] yeah .
Tony (PS0V4) [3921] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3922] But the A O's don't, they've had one, two ... they've had one new A A to date
Tony (PS0V4) [3923] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3924] in the twelve month's I've been there, just one, and we've had three leave.
Tony (PS0V4) [3925] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3926] You know
Tony (PS0V4) [3927] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [3928] I, I don't know it ... cos he, he sort of says all this, that we, were very good to people you know, great flexibility and all this [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [3929] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3930] oh yes, you get a hospital appointment then you have the time off it, that's it, they'll
Tony (PS0V4) [3931] [laugh] ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3932] move heaven and earth, you know
Tony (PS0V4) [3933] so what
Jackie (PS0V5) [3934] so what
Tony (PS0V4) [3935] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [3936] quite.
[3937] If you have a pre he's actually said to me if you have a problem I will listen and I will help you, so there's me going to him and saying look due to a misunderstanding I have a problem and this one saying tough
Tony (PS0V4) [3938] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3939] you know ... but it wasn't any misunderstanding either, he said something
Tony (PS0V4) [3940] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3941] and now the chips are down and I'm calling on him to do what he said, he's not prepared to
Tony (PS0V4) [3942] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3943] that's what it boils down to, there's no misunderstanding it's him.
Tony (PS0V4) [3944] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3945] Him, he, he wanted someone to work there desperately
Tony (PS0V4) [3946] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3947] I was there, I was prepared to do it
Tony (PS0V4) [3948] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3949] and he wanted me
Tony (PS0V4) [3950] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3951] so he offered me the moon to get me
Tony (PS0V4) [3952] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3953] having got me
Tony (PS0V4) [3954] Yeah, he then starts trying to take it back
Jackie (PS0V5) [3955] yeah, and he's not going to.
Tony (PS0V4) [3956] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3957] So .
Tony (PS0V4) [3958] He didn't exactly offer you the moon anyway
Jackie (PS0V5) [3959] Well no,
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [3960] no
Tony (PS0V4) [3961] But he was prepared to negotiate on something which now he's saying he didn't negotiate.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3962] Yeah, that's right, what, no, he's not saying erm, he's not prepared to negotiate any more
Tony (PS0V4) [3963] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3964] he's saying he didn't say it in the first place .
Tony (PS0V4) [3965] First place , yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3966] He's also saying, but now I have a more responsible job, therefore I have to be in [...] time, five minutes after him, not good enough.
Tony (PS0V4) [3967] Mm, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3968] You know ... and, as I say with my partner ... I haven't mentioned it yet, this business about cover
Tony (PS0V4) [3969] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3970] but it annoys me that, why, you see, I'm, I'm asking for cover for technical half an hour in the morning
Tony (PS0V4) [3971] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3972] Possibly fifty five minutes.
Tony (PS0V4) [3973] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3974] Somebody has to cover our group from half past three till five
Tony (PS0V4) [3975] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3976] during the week.
Tony (PS0V4) [3977] Well that's not [...] time, so it doesn't matter.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3978] No, when your partner
Tony (PS0V4) [3979] This,
Jackie (PS0V5) [3980] goes home early
Tony (PS0V4) [3981] it's, it's a question it's not a question of cover, and it's not a question of erm efficiency it's a question of small mindedness.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3982] Yes, luckily he's gonna look at all my flexi [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3983] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3984] The one that's been really bad, is the one that I'm still doing, they can't see that.
Tony (PS0V4) [3985] Ah, right.
[3986] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3987] I looked at the other day and I was thinking oh god, I want to go to sleep a couple of days last, you know
Tony (PS0V4) [3988] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3989] five minutes, ten minutes, and I was thinking erm, [...] the car broke down
Tony (PS0V4) [3990] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3991] well that's all the sheet I'm doing now
Tony (PS0V4) [3992] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [3993] so he won't see that one.
Tony (PS0V4) [3994] No.

67 (Tape 010602)

Jackie (PS0V5) [3995] Keen she is
Tony (PS0V4) [3996] She is in't she?
Jackie (PS0V5) [3997] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [3998] Got my house keys?
Christine (PS0V6) [3999] It's up there, I saw it on the door last night.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4000] Oh, was it late?
Christine (PS0V6) [4001] [laugh] no [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4002] Oh where is it, this side or the other side?
Christine (PS0V6) [4003] Erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [4004] The passenger, yeah, grandma.

68 (Tape 010603)

Jackie (PS0V5) [4005] Just getting used to this damn er choke again
Tony (PS0V4) [4006] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4007] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [4008] They'll service it, and it'll
Jackie (PS0V5) [4009] They'll service it ,
Tony (PS0V4) [4010] be all different again.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4011] such a pain, it really is.
[4012] I [...] seemed to do anything to the car, mind with the water pump I think they check, they have to er adjust the timing.
Tony (PS0V4) [4013] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4014] When they er put the new pump in, but it is such a nuisance.

69 (Tape 010604)

Jackie (PS0V5) [4015] You've got to push the choke in now as far as it'll go.
Tony (PS0V4) [4016] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4017] The only thing is then you'll run, when you stop and take your foot off the accelerator you risk stopping.
Tony (PS0V4) [4018] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4019] [laugh] ... you'll have to give it as little as it you know
Tony (PS0V4) [4020] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4021] It seems to be much more sensitive to too much choke.
Tony (PS0V4) [4022] Yeah, it floods very easily.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4023] Yeah ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4024] Pick, are you gonna pick her up at quarter past,quar , er seven o'clock is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4025] Yeah, erm
Tony (PS0V4) [4026] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4027] So you could, explain sort of why.
Tony (PS0V4) [4028] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4029] See you later.
Christine (PS0V6) [4030] Bye.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4031] Be a good girl ...
Christine (PS0V6) [4032] Hello Tony, was Christine okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [4033] Hello , yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [4034] We'll drop her back.
Tony (PS0V4) [4035] Well we can, we can
Christine (PS0V6) [4036] Unless you want her earlier ,
Tony (PS0V4) [4037] pick her up about seven.
Christine (PS0V6) [4038] yeah that's fine .
Tony (PS0V4) [4039] Okay , cos were going out, so we can pick her up on the way out, about seven?
Christine (PS0V6) [4040] Okay , yeah, is that alright? [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4041] Yeah, that's fine ,
Christine (PS0V6) [4042] I'm gonna drop the other's back at seven
Tony (PS0V4) [4043] oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [4044] We've got Charmaine and ... Charlotte, we don't know if Becky's coming round, we've got a video.
Tony (PS0V4) [4045] Oh, right.
Christine (PS0V6) [4046] Okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [4047] Erm.
Christine (PS0V6) [4048] It's, it's up to you, if you, if you like us to drop her back first at seven
Tony (PS0V4) [4049] Erm
Christine (PS0V6) [4050] or we'll hang on until you call for her and then I'll pop these back home, I don't mind, whichever.
Tony (PS0V4) [4051] Erm.
Christine (PS0V6) [4052] Or she can stay later it's, it's entirely up to you.
Tony (PS0V4) [4053] No, were actually going out at seven
Christine (PS0V6) [4054] You take her out
Tony (PS0V4) [4055] I mean, you, were take Christine, yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [4056] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4057] Erm.
[4058] [laugh] , er, we'll, we'll, we'll pick her up at seven .
Christine (PS0V6) [4059] [...] okay
Tony (PS0V4) [4060] Okay.
Christine (PS0V6) [4061] See you later
Tony (PS0V4) [4062] See you later then.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4063] Okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [4064] Yeah, Lorraine was saying oh we can bring her back about seven.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4065] You say we were on our way out any way .
Tony (PS0V4) [4066] And I said well were on our way out so she said alright, were hang on and wait for you to arrive at seven and then I'll take the rest back.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4067] Oh the rest, how many has she got there?
Tony (PS0V4) [4068] I don't know.
[4069] I think Becky, I think Charmaine is going, is there as well, so, she's gonna have a house full and they're all gonna sit and watch a video.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4070] going back.
[4071] God.
Tony (PS0V4) [4072] Yeah, brave lady.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4073] Oh my, must admit, gets a bit much of it you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [4074] [laughing] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4075] But then I suppose.
Tony (PS0V4) [4076] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4077] Oh I wish we could get all that grass cut, oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [4078] Yeah, I can't do it can we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4079] No.
[4080] We've had a real sort of little [...] later you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [4081] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4082] It'll be ideal to do it, but you, actually say you just can't do it all.
Tony (PS0V4) [4083] Mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4084] I suppose being realistic we could clean the car out in the evening because you only got to have the door open you've got the interior light on
Tony (PS0V4) [4085] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4086] you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [4087] Yeah, you can't clean the outside of the car by the interior light.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4088] Yeah, but then we'll do that in the car wash then .
Tony (PS0V4) [4089] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4090] [...] see it's busy on a Sunday.
Tony (PS0V4) [4091] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4092] I wonder actually if their car wash is open ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4093] Oh, we'll have a look ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4094] Yes, the garage is [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4095] Yeah there's somebody in there now ... I'll go and get the ticket.

70 (Tape 010605)

Jackie (PS0V5) [4096] Get the wax one as well, that'll give some protection as well .
Tony (PS0V4) [4097] Okay ... Wax or hot wax?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4098] Erm, what do you think?
[4099] Which is [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4100] That's the hot wax.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4101] What do you think?
Tony (PS0V4) [4102] We can try that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4103] Wax, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4104] Okay ... Hello, can I have a three pound fifty car wash please.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4105] There's been [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4106] [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4107] Thank you. [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4108] [laugh] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4109] There we go.
Tony (PS0V4) [4110] Thank you.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4111] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4112] Bye. [carwash]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4113] You haven't [...] got the dry on it as well?
Tony (PS0V4) [4114] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4115] It'll give it some form of protection which we haven't got round to doing the erm ... oh
Tony (PS0V4) [4116] Silicone.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4117] yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4118] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4119] I mean it says it lasts up to two years, we've only had it on there a year
Tony (PS0V4) [4120] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4121] it's just over a year, so that's [...] .
[4122] It all helps if you start the engine.
Tony (PS0V4) [4123] Right, I'd better go and push the ticket in hadn't I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4124] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4125] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4126] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4127] And I've got our aeriel down.

71 (Tape 010606)

Jackie (PS0V5) [4128] We'll still have to do all round the doors, round the you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [4129] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4130] Not a bumper, all over, number plate, on the front.
[4131] The number plate's only hanging on [laugh] by one screw [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4132] God.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4133] Every time I come up here I think is the [...] alright, that one.
[4134] It was broken when we bought the car.
Tony (PS0V4) [4135] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4136] It's done well to stay on two and a half years really.
Tony (PS0V4) [4137] Yeah.? 1 e

72 (Tape 010607)

Jackie (PS0V5) [4138] I'm interested to see what it's gonna do for a hot wax if you see what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [4139] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4140] Or at least, wow.
Tony (PS0V4) [4141] What? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4142] I've got a little pool down here.
[4143] [...] down there, on the inside, yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [4144] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4145] Well it is a bit excessive isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [4146] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4147] It's not erm ... well where was the hot wax? ... we just had an ordinary wash ... go and ask her, say you asked for ... how much did you pay?
Tony (PS0V4) [4148] I had the right card, it was the card number five which was for the hot wash as, hot wax as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4149] Well it's, we've just had an ordinary wash ... haven't we?
Tony (PS0V4) [4150] I don't know, they might ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4151] I don't exactly feel as if we'd had our monies worth there.
Tony (PS0V4) [4152] Oh, mm, I don't, I don't really know what the hot wax does.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4153] Oh no, it does feel.
Tony (PS0V4) [4154] It's probably different.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4155] It, it's, no, no .
Tony (PS0V4) [4156] Different stuff is put on it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4157] Yeah, there's something, it feels erm.
Tony (PS0V4) [4158] Feels waxy?
[4159] ... This one's cheaper than the er
Jackie (PS0V5) [4160] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [4161] This one is cheaper
Jackie (PS0V5) [4162] What than the erm.
Tony (PS0V4) [4163] than the one at the Longwell Green.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4164] Yeah, it's had something, look it wouldn't of.
Tony (PS0V4) [4165] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4166] Yes, it's had something, look at the paint work.
Tony (PS0V4) [4167] Yeah, it's good, in it? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4168] It was probably erm the shampoo and what have you it's [...] in
Tony (PS0V4) [4169] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4170] together [...] ... I'm sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [4171] It's alright.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4172] Jumping off the clutch there.
Tony (PS0V4) [4173] [laugh] , I'm a past master at that [laugh] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4174] Going a bit quickly.
Tony (PS0V4) [4175] What's going a bit quickly?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4176] That police car.
Tony (PS0V4) [4177] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4178] Wasn't screaming, just that it's [...] , the eh, getting there.
Tony (PS0V4) [4179] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4180] Don't you start.
Tony (PS0V4) [4181] [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4182] I know how easy it is to do that, coming up there.
Tony (PS0V4) [4183] Coming up there, yes, quite er, quite tricky.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4184] Thanks for a paying to have it washed like that, cos it
Tony (PS0V4) [4185] That's alright .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4186] saves an awful lot of time with us.
Tony (PS0V4) [4187] Saves a lot of work don't it, a lot of time ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4188] I want to check the tyres and that as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [4189] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4190] Cos we haven't had for any actual air in it for ages.
Tony (PS0V4) [4191] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4192] I'm sure they must need er ... a little bit.
Tony (PS0V4) [4193] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4194] And we've got plenty of time now to erm do the hoovering and what have you.
Tony (PS0V4) [4195] Mm.

73 (Tape 010608)

Tony (PS0V4) [4196] Brian had a little panic before my test.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4197] Why?
Tony (PS0V4) [4198] He had a back light go.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4199] Oh no.
Tony (PS0V4) [4200] Break light.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4201] Well, having said that
Tony (PS0V4) [4202] He had a spare.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4203] he did?
Tony (PS0V4) [4204] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4205] When did it go?
Tony (PS0V4) [4206] While he was fitting it, while I was coming out of door to stop my test to start
Jackie (PS0V5) [4207] Oh [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4208] on my er lesson before my test, and he said just push the brake down a minute and I did and he said oh, you try it again, yeah, oh, hang on a minute, he fiddled about some more and he said right now do it again ... ah right that's working now [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4209] Phew we.
Tony (PS0V4) [4210] And I was thinking oh god.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4211] Did the examiner check your break lights and indicator's though.
Tony (PS0V4) [4212] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4213] No, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4214] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4215] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4216] The only the thing is there do, erm there's a parking light on Brian's
Jackie (PS0V5) [4217] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4218] and he said, do you normally have a light down there?
[4219] And I said er ... only when I'm parked.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4220] What did he say?
Tony (PS0V4) [4221] And he said er, mm, would you er, would you just, erm, don't raise the clutch just put the car into first gear a minute.
[4222] Put it into first gear and he said, and the light went out, he said oh yes that's fine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4223] I wouldn't bother with that if I were you, we're gonna be hoovering it and cleaning it aren't we.
Tony (PS0V4) [4224] Oh yeah course we are , yeah, okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4225] Yep.

74 (Tape 010609)

Jackie (PS0V5) [4226] I'm gonna be ashamed of driving it again now, I was getting to a point where I was thinking oh my god, Christine came out in black all along here she said, er what's that?
[4227] I said dirt [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4228] [laugh] .
[4229] Right, have you locked it all?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4230] Yes I think so.
Tony (PS0V4) [4231] Okay, well we'll lock it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4232] I never leave it unlocked.
Tony (PS0V4) [4233] No, but ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4234] Right then we want the hoover, we've got a patch of [...] to do.
Tony (PS0V4) [4235] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4236] About that big, it's not a small patch.
[4237] You know where the door frame goes round and the door fits into it?
Tony (PS0V4) [4238] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4239] Somebody's obviously tipped the edge
Tony (PS0V4) [4240] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4241] and it's gone un-noticed so far.
[4242] Of course after Christmas some time we've got to find erm the money for the rust round the
Tony (PS0V4) [4243] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4244] window.
Tony (PS0V4) [4245] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4246] And that must be checked.
Tony (PS0V4) [4247] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4248] Because otherwise were gonna be erm dead trouble.
Tony (PS0V4) [4249] Hello Ben.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4250] Hello Ben, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, oh eh.
[4251] Erm, right.

75 (Tape 010610)

Tony (PS0V4) [4252] There we go.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4253] You haven't got it tucked in ...

76 (Tape 010611)

Jackie (PS0V5) [4254] Do you want a cup of tea?
Tony (PS0V4) [4255] Yeah that'll be good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4256] And a bowl.
Tony (PS0V4) [4257] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4258] And [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4259] Keep that [...] or.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4260] I wouldn't [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4261] What you gonna do with these?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4262] Keep them.
Tony (PS0V4) [4263] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4264] Well, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4265] How did those get started?.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4266] Oh, that was, we opened those [...] last night.
Tony (PS0V4) [4267] We did.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4268] Oh those are a bit hard.
Tony (PS0V4) [4269] Yeah, okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4270] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4271] What do you want in your roll then?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4272] You've got a big choice haven't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [4273] Cheese or cheese.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4274] Or Tuna.
Tony (PS0V4) [4275] I wouldn't mind some cheese.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4276] Cheese.
Tony (PS0V4) [4277] Do you want?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4278] No, I'll have some cheese and Marmite.
Tony (PS0V4) [4279] Right ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4280] These cheese slices are quite good actually aren't they?
Tony (PS0V4) [4281] Yeah, they're nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4282] There we are.
[4283] Have we got any [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4284] Is Christine having tea over at er Amanda's?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4285] Erm, I, well, that was the general idea.
Tony (PS0V4) [4286] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4287] But I don't know really what's happening, if she hadn't had anything she'll have something when she comes back.
Tony (PS0V4) [4288] Yeah, okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4289] Remind the [...] over there.
Tony (PS0V4) [4290] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4291] If her mum's got five hundred [...] there, I don't know whether she'll want them or
Tony (PS0V4) [4292] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4293] stay for tea ... .
[4294] Yeah I was a bit annoyed with my [...] ... Oh crikey.
[4295] See, they haven't actually send me a statement, that's ... see what I mean ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4296] Mm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4297] That's why I have to keep an eye on it cos that blind and that, but it won't come yet, it wouldn't have been on that, that was priced it [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4298] That was probably why you haven't got anything else on it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4299] Yeah.

77 (Tape 010612)

Tony (PS0V4) [4300] I bet they have a few Sony Walkman's disappear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4301] Yes, sod that.
[4302] I might send away for that [...] last one.
Tony (PS0V4) [4303] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4304] It's quite nice, it's sort of got [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4305] Oh yeah , it's got a group of pleats and then a gap and then a group of pleats, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4306] [...] pleats, [...] .
[4307] [...] . I think it's too late to order today but I'll have look through those leaflets.
Tony (PS0V4) [4308] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4309] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4310] Mm, china ... china nativity plate.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4311] Oh they do have some rubbish.
Tony (PS0V4) [4312] Complete with stand, musical nativity advent calendar, plays silent night.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4313] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [4314] Oh dear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4315] We all [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4316] [laugh] yeah ... You want marmite on your
Jackie (PS0V5) [4317] Yes please.
Tony (PS0V4) [4318] Do you want lot's of marmite, little bit of marmite.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4319] Lot's of marmite.
Tony (PS0V4) [4320] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4321] Don't spread it like putty you know, but, quite a lot I like to be able to taste it where Christine just likes the flavour if you know what I mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [4322] Mm ... I know why he's not happy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4323] Why?
Tony (PS0V4) [4324] Well his box is down there innit?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4325] Yeah.
[4326] He's thinking they're gonna go and leave me again.
Tony (PS0V4) [4327] He's right, but not for a little while.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4328] Tell [...] Tony's gonna leave but actually [...] has a go at me as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [4329] Oh yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4330] [...] a couple of times we went up there with er jogging.
Tony (PS0V4) [4331] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4332] He did nothing but sniff and sniff and sniff when we came back.
Tony (PS0V4) [4333] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4334] Now he's got to get used to another dog.
[4335] Do you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [4336] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4337] He thinks oh not again.
[4338] What crisps would you like?
Tony (PS0V4) [4339] Er ... what we got?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4340] There is a packet of cheese one's
Tony (PS0V4) [4341] Mm, mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4342] or skips or disco's?
Tony (PS0V4) [4343] Can I have the McCoy's?
[4344] Okay I'll have the crisps then.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4345] Do you mind?
Tony (PS0V4) [4346] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4347] Seriously.
Tony (PS0V4) [4348] Yes, but never mind.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4349] [laugh] , tough, you had the last cheese packet [laugh] .
[4350] My turn.
Tony (PS0V4) [4351] I mind seriously but never mind.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4352] Actually I should leave that stuff [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [4353] Yeah, okay [television]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4354] I must admit I won't be terrible sorry if you don't see this it is a bit naff.
Tony (PS0V4) [4355] Yeah, it is a bit innit?

78 (Tape 010613)

Tony (PS0V4) [4356] Determined he's gonna have what's in that bucket isn't he? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4357] [...] looks so matted and knotted up, you can't ever imagine him being
Tony (PS0V4) [4358] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4359] able to be [...] ... .
Tony (PS0V4) [4360] I'll er, get us a cup of tea.

79 (Tape 010701)

Tony (PS0V4) [4361] Okay?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4362] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [4363] Now I have to put you first on the list instead of me.
[4364] Stay then.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4365] Why cos I went wow? [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [4366] No you said what you're doing?
[4367] You you spent first and then
Jackie (PS0V5) [4368] Have you got your door keys?
Tony (PS0V4) [4369] And they'll have great difficulty telling your voice and mine apart won't they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4370] Oh yeah.
[4371] Yeah.
[4372] Great difficulty.),
[4373] I

80 (Tape 010702)

Tony (PS0V4) [4374] Oh you unlocked it? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4375] Sorry?
Tony (PS0V4) [4376] You unlocked it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4377] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [4378] I had my key.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4379] Thank you.
[4380] ... No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4381] What?
Tony (PS0V4) [4382] They certainly whizz through here don't they?
[4383] ... Ha ha ha!
Jackie (PS0V5) [4384] Didn't they get the passport [...] Christine's not here.
Tony (PS0V4) [4385] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4386] [laugh] ... I haven't got the aerial up after all that I [...] .
[4387] I was trying to get the key out the aerial and it wouldn't come out.
[4388] Funny .
Tony (PS0V4) [4389] [laugh] Yeah.
[4390] And a car was approaching.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4391] It made my [...] [laugh] one minute I thought help! [laugh] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4392] Look.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4393] Sorry.
Tony (PS0V4) [4394] That's all right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4395] What you doing?
[4396] You can't see surely.
Tony (PS0V4) [4397] I can write in the dark ... I can't read it but I can write it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4398] Huh ... Ah! ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4399] Oh come on ... [...] [cough] till we get past it and turn around.
Tony (PS0V4) [4400] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4401] Are there head lights coming round there or not?
Tony (PS0V4) [4402] Headlight?
[4403] I don't know that they're coming round.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4404] Yeah I know.
[4405] Don't [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4406] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4407] I hate this junction.
Tony (PS0V4) [4408] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [4409] Absolutely [...] him. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4410] Yes horrible place to get round.
[4411] There's always that van parked on the corner.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4412] Yeah.
[4413] And it's blind cause of all the bushes the other side.
Tony (PS0V4) [4414] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4415] And you're always on the wrong side of the road [laugh] which doesn't help ... Well he didn't expect that [laugh] .
[4416] Did you see?
Tony (PS0V4) [4417] Yes I did.
[4418] Ooh.
[4419] That was close.
[4420] Whip round there a bit quick.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4421] Goodness what a funny trailer [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [4422] Mm. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4423] God the steering's a bit better.
[4424] Now that er
Tony (PS0V4) [4425] Firmed up the tyres.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4426] Firmed up the tyres a little bit.
[4427] Oh!
[4428] ... It always feels very well not very slightly different to driver when you pump the tyres up.
[4429] When they needed it you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [4430] Hm.
[4431] Yeah. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4432] Cause the front tyres tend to go down more because they're carrying more weight.
[4433] They've got the engine.
Tony (PS0V4) [4434] Mm.
[4435] Yeah.
[4436] They're also pulled about more aren't they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4437] Well it's front wheel drive car so
Tony (PS0V4) [4438] Yeah.
[4439] ... And how long it will be before she says Dad do you think you could put the radio on.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4440] Yeah but some get in front of him ... Thank you. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4441] Okay?

81 (Tape 010703)

Christine (PS0V6) [4442] We would've dropped her back.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4443] Yeah they know that so erm not to worry.
[4444] You drive the car anyway.
[4445] It's kind of you anyway.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4446] Okay?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4447] You didn't bring [...] with you did you?
Tony (PS0V4) [4448] No.
[4449] Thanks very much.
Christine (PS0V6) [4450] It's all [laugh] over for you.
[4451] You'll probably see her in the morning.
[4452] Yeah?
Tony (PS0V4) [4453] Yeah.
[4454] Seems like it.
[4455] Bye bye then.
Christine (PS0V6) [4456] Cheers.
Tony (PS0V4) [4457] Bye.ep

82 (Tape 010704)

Christine (PS0V6) [4458] [...] murder inside
Jackie (PS0V5) [4459] Oh wow!
Christine (PS0V6) [4460] [...] two men like and you pull out this paper on the spot [...] Murderer and er judge.
[4461] If the judge
Tony (PS0V4) [sneeze]
Christine (PS0V6) [4462] and the murderer's got to wander round and kill someone
Tony (PS0V4) [sneeze]
Christine (PS0V6) [4463] and kill the judge
Tony (PS0V4) [sneeze]
Christine (PS0V6) [4464] and the mystery is no points who it is.
[4465] If the judge doesn't get killed then erm ... they ... then the judge got to go around asking pe people questions.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4466] Oh.
[4467] Great!
[4468] How many were there?
Christine (PS0V6) [4469] Only erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [4470] There was Charmaine
Christine (PS0V6) [4471] Charlotte Charmaine [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4472] Oh no Becky?
Christine (PS0V6) [4473] No Becky was gone.
[4474] And we watched Home Alone.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4475] Oh! was it good?
Christine (PS0V6) [4476] Yeah.
[4477] It was brilliant!
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh] ...
Christine (PS0V6) [4478] He had this trick and he had a blow torch and he burned off all this blokes hair.
[4479] It was funny.
[4480] He had a blow torch Mum you as he opened the door and the blow torch flicked off something.
[4481] I don't know what it was and erm and the blow torch went off.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4482] Oh wow!
Christine (PS0V6) [4483] It burned all the top of his head and he hung a hot thing over the handle on the door -front door and so he put his hand on the handle and there was piece of skin it was all burned off
Jackie (PS0V5) [4484] Oh no!
Tony (PS0V4) [4485] Uh
Christine (PS0V6) [4486] In a circle ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4487] This steering is much lighter.
Tony (PS0V4) [4488] Is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4489] Yeah I'll tell you what it is.
[4490] You know a lot of these big cars with really wide wheels.
Tony (PS0V4) [4491] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4492] They've got some of them have got power assisted steering.
Tony (PS0V4) [4493] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4494] And if just blowing up the tyres means you have a tiny bit more thre er tread on the road and it is a tiny bit.
Tony (PS0V4) [4495] Uh huh. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4496] Then ... if it makes this much difference
Tony (PS0V4) [4497] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4498] You know what I mean?
[4499] I can see why with big wide wheels some cars
Tony (PS0V4) [4500] You need
Tony (PS0V4) [4501] would need it.
Tony (PS0V4) [4502] Power assisted steering yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4503] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4504] It must feel strange though.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4505] Well no because it's still responds to you ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [4506] Yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [4507] [...] forty mile an hour zone.
Tony (PS0V4) [4508] And he just gone parked behind a bike with no lights.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4509] No he's got lights but they're er
Tony (PS0V4) [4510] Flashing.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4511] Flickering.
Tony (PS0V4) [4512] Oh no that's
Jackie (PS0V5) [4513] That's supposed to be like that?
Tony (PS0V4) [4514] They're supposed to be yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4515] That's good actually because I saw that from a long way off and I thought what is it?
[4516] I thought it was a ... they are good.
Tony (PS0V4) [4517] Hm.
[4518] ... Makes you notice them doesn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4519] Yep.
[4520] Very much so.
Tony (PS0V4) [4521] Had that been a steady red light it wouldn't have been anywhere near as noticeable
Jackie (PS0V5) [4522] Noticeable no.
Christine (PS0V6) [4523] Mum when we [...] Murder in the Dark Amanda was [...] dump me and you're supposed to sort of do that isn't that right?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4524] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [4525] Just sort of hit them?
[4526] And I felt [...] and I said I did not kill her and I was the murderer and Shameer said check hit me but she didn't it felt like a hit and you don't accidentally do that do you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4527] Well if it was dark and she couldn't see you she might have put her arm out and hit you it doesn't ... what it feels like isn't always what it is if you see what I mean.
Christine (PS0V6) [4528] You could see a little bit ... but not much.
[4529] But it it was like it wasn't like a tap [...] wasn't.
[4530] We reckon it was that.
Tony (PS0V4) [4531] Uh huh.
Christine (PS0V6) [4532] And she said she hit me with her elbow and it wasn't it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4533] Well it might have been her elbow Christine you mustn't be
Christine (PS0V6) [4534] It wasn't there you could tell it was [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4535] All you could feel was that it was something bony.
[4536] Now be fair.
Christine (PS0V6) [4537] It was bony and [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4538] All right.
[4539] I'd better write that down or I'll never remember it ... specially with er what comes next?

83 (Tape 010705)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4540] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4541] From one to the other.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4542] Hello.
[4543] All right
Tony (PS0V4) [4544] Hello
Dot (PS0VA) [4545] Hello
Jackie (PS0V5) [4546] All right.
[4547] How are you?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4548] All right thanks.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4549] That's good then all right?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4550] Yes
Tony (PS0V4) [4551] That's nice.
[4552] That'll be a bit crispy that bit.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4553] Oh it's you causing a [...] again is there?
Tony (PS0V4) [4554] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4555] Oh dear.
[4556] I don't know .
Vicky (PS0V9) [4557] How are are .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4558] Everybody all right?
[4559] Is it going all right?
Tony (PS0V4) [4560] Fine thanks.
[4561] Yeah. ...
Vicky (PS0V9) [4562] You're early so no excuse.
[4563] How are you?
Tony (PS0V4) [4564] I'm fine thanks.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4565] Oh that's good.
Tony (PS0V4) [4566] Yeah.
[4567] Gonna be doing a course next week.
[4568] Erm Monday to Friday.
[4569] I'm running a course.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4570] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4571] It's a five day course.
[4572] By Friday I'll be on my knees.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4573] Oh.
[4574] Is it a stiff one?
Tony (PS0V4) [4575] Well it's hard doing five days in a row like that.
[4576] Cause you're talking and explaining things all the time and
Vicky (PS0V9) [4577] Better not lose your voice then.
Tony (PS0V4) [4578] In the lun no that's right ... and in the lunch hour and things
Vicky (PS0V9) [4579] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [4580] You don't really get a break because you're getting ready for the afternoon.
Mum (PS0V8) [4581] Yeah
Vicky (PS0V9) [4582] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [4583] So you don't really get any break at all but on a
Mum (PS0V8) [4584] Looking forward to it?
Tony (PS0V4) [4585] Yeah it'll be good.
[4586] It done I did it once before .
Mum (PS0V8) [4587] Where is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [4588] It's in Nelson Street and er I did it I've done it once on my own like this before.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4589] It's what?
Mum (PS0V8) [4590] No Bristol.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4591] In Bristol .
Mum (PS0V8) [4592] Yeah it is.
Mum (PS0V8) [4593] It was the way [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4594] Hm.
Mum (PS0V8) [4595] You went to Sheffield and [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4596] Yeah that's right.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4597] Sheffield.
Tony (PS0V4) [4598] Yes I went to Sheffield.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4599] Yeah what I was going to say to you the only thing is will you put a plug up.
[4600] There's not a plug on up.
Christine (PS0V6) [4601] [...] I come up and put em up.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4602] I don't know how to put a plug up.
Christine (PS0V6) [4603] Oh come on Mum decorate your [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4604] All right then.
Mum (PS0V8) [4605] If you don't decorate it up like she got her own decorations [laugh]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4606] She's got all all her decorations up
Mum (PS0V8) [4607] [...] erm a hundred [...] like erm twenty erm [...] but Joe
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4608] Right.
Mum (PS0V8) [4609] do you remember we got a bet on?
[4610] But you wanted to go and see Jones now.
[4611] She's got a great big [...] outside on her slag over the windows and it's all lit up
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [4612] I got sixty two onions [...] .
[4613] I been round there and got conkers
Mum (PS0V8) [4614] Tell her about Joan's going to be a grandma.
Mum (PS0V8) [4615] Oh yes Joan's gonna to be grandma .
Vicky (PS0V9) [4616] Joan's going to be a grandma in June .
Mum (PS0V8) [4617] Becky.
Mum (PS0V8) [4618] Is Tony a [...] ?
[4619] See who can get the trimmings up the [...] and who can put the most up.
[4620] Don't laugh.
[4621] I've got my nerve ever since the twenty eighth of [laugh]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4622] Twenty eight of October.
Tony (PS0V4) [4623] October?
Mum (PS0V8) [4624] So Terry's going to board with stars now?
Christine (PS0V6) [4625] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4626] Stars?
Mum (PS0V8) [4627] The joker who's up today and she got this boy whose had this section [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4628] Has she?
Mum (PS0V8) [4629] So so we know roughly going up to get [...] and make some stars and he's going to put chains and like all round these stars. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4630] I have them up the front bedroom window [laugh] .
[4631] Even Phil's going to be
Mum (PS0V8) [4632] You'll be able to see them two houses from a long way away.
Mum (PS0V8) [4633] Well yes. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4634] Oh dear.
[4635] Ours is prettier isn't it?
Mum (PS0V8) [4636] How's school going then Christine?
[4637] All right my love?
Christine (PS0V6) [4638] Yep.
Mum (PS0V8) [4639] Do you like it?
Christine (PS0V6) [4640] Yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4641] I've got to do [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4642] What are you doing?
[4643] Anything [...] special for Christmas?
Vicky (PS0V9) [4644] Doing anything special?
Christine (PS0V6) [4645] On Thursday we
Jackie (PS0V5) [4646] They are doing a play.
Tony (PS0V4) [4647] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4648] But if you buy any more of [...] you'll blow up.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [4649] Will I see the great icing the great big father Christmas blow up one.
Tony (PS0V4) [4650] Oh yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4651] The only one [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4652] Oh is he?
Tony (PS0V4) [4653] Oh that's great huh.
Mum (PS0V8) [4654] I going down again as father Christmas and she's [...] got one.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [4655] She's got what?
Mum (PS0V8) [4656] Yeah she got one [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4657] [...] Father Christmas on a step and a bleeding [...] .
Vicky (PS0V9) [4658] Iris wants to blow up one.
Mum (PS0V8) [4659] I want to blow up one now.
Christine (PS0V6) [4660] I'll get you one that's easy to blow up.
Mum (PS0V8) [4661] All right.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4662] And then on top of it what was it?
[4663] I reckon we have to pay for it aren't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4664] What?
Vicky (PS0V9) [4665] Terry said we might go and get another set of outdoor lights because we can do with another set at the back.
Mum (PS0V8) [4666] Is [...] one?
Vicky (PS0V9) [4667] Yeah.
[4668] But for now he's
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4669] No.
[4670] I've not got a proper Christmas tree out am I?
Tony (PS0V4) [4671] No you're not going to put a Christmas tree out.
Mum (PS0V8) [4672] [...] he likes putting it up outside the front door and put these lights on it.
Tony (PS0V4) [4673] [...] awful bad smells all septic.
Mum (PS0V8) [4674] Yes she's going to need [...]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4675] Are you squeamish Jackie?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4676] No.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4677] What you been [...] ?
Mum (PS0V8) [4678] What it ever since last August.
[4679] I've been treating it as a wart.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4680] A wart?
Mum (PS0V8) [4681] A corn and I've been putting corn plasters on it
Tony (PS0V4) [4682] Hm.
Mum (PS0V8) [4683] but so I'm going to ring up tomorrow and see if I can see her.
Tony (PS0V4) [4684] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4685] Otherwise it'll only get worse. [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4686] Now I've got one coming on the other toe.
[4687] The other side.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4688] Oh no.
Mum (PS0V8) [4689] It's what but it's only very small at the moment like a dry skin.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4690] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4691] But I can't rid of it.
Mum (PS0V8) [4692] I've been treating that since [...] I bought corn plasters [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4693] Because it should have healed up by now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4694] Oh yeah all that time.
[4695] Definitely.
[4696] You're not putting anything [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4697] No.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4698] You need to have a tetanus injection.
Mum (PS0V8) [4699] So I don't go outside [...] by the time you've finished.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4700] So yes.
[4701] You want to get down there don't you now?
Mum (PS0V8) [4702] Oh and Terry he might put a bloody great big sign up over bus.
[4703] Do you know what I mean?
[4704] About bus [...] lights on.
[4705] The travel one [...] and Yvonne's got hers up.
[4706] I've been over Yvonne's
Vicky (PS0V9) [4707] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4708] and expected she hadn't got as much as she
Vicky (PS0V9) [4709] No I've been over Yvonne's and yeah I said to Yvonne I ain't got [...] she said you'd be bloody going [...] if you can't get [...] [laugh] .
Vicky (PS0V9) [4710] I said Terry's not going to complain about my [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4711] Oh you ah!
Tony (PS0V4) [4712] Ha ha.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4713] Are you feeling cornered Tony?
Tony (PS0V4) [4714] No. [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [4715] We don't put up a lot of decorations around the place.
[4716] I like a really nice simple [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4717] Yeah that's nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4718] And we've got we got we've got
Tony (PS0V4) [4719] We've got to have more than a hundred lights on the tree otherwise it's not properly lit.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4720] No and we had to have what was it?
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4721] We haven't got a hundred and twenty and a hundred thirty and last year one of the sets which we've had since we got married [...] we couldn't them to go no matter what we tried.
Mum (PS0V8) [4722] [...] ninety nine pence a set you've got to pay the VAT on top.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4723] Do you [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4724] No.
[4725] It's bound to be good.
[4726] They do everything.
[4727] I'll tell you what ... it's Christmas [...] I'll tell you what.
[4728] Do you know bike?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4729] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4730] I paid for that thirty two pounds.
Tony (PS0V4) [4731] Good grief.
Mum (PS0V8) [4732] You want to go down there [...] .
[4733] If you spent more than fifty pounds
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4734] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4735] You don't pay the V A T.
Dot (PS0VA) [4736] So you haven't got
Tony (PS0V4) [4737] Oh right
Mum (PS0V8) [4738] They've got
Tony (PS0V4) [4739] No no.
[4740] Have you got to have a er card to get in or
Mum (PS0V8) [4741] No anybody can get in I mean and it's open seven days a week.
Tony (PS0V4) [4742] Wow where is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4743] What?
Mum (PS0V8) [4744] You know where ... [...] er the swimming bath with [...] on it.
Tony (PS0V4) [4745] Speed boat [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4746] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [4747] Samwell Swimming bath.
Mum (PS0V8) [4748] Samwell swimming bath's one of [...] moved [...] er
Tony (PS0V4) [4749] Yeah?
Mum (PS0V8) [4750] No.
[4751] Do you know where erm you know where the erm go over to er go over erm where the fire station is not the one that white white
Jackie (PS0V5) [4752] Whitemore.
Mum (PS0V8) [4753] Do you know where the swin er fire station is [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4754] Ah yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4755] Right.
[4756] Then you got the fire station
Vicky (PS0V9) [4757] That's right.
Mum (PS0V8) [4758] Next to it.
Vicky (PS0V9) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4759] No.
[4760] Next door to there was [...] .
[4761] Turn down that side bit and it'll bring you to the swimming baths.
[4762] Turn and go past the swimming baths and take your first right and you're going more or less down to erm where that boy married what you [...]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4763] Greenbanks
Mum (PS0V8) [4764] but as you go round you will see a sign Fancy Goods.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4765] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4766] It's in
Vicky (PS0V9) [4767] house
Mum (PS0V8) [4768] It's a big verge.
[4769] You've got to follow the signs.
[4770] Go round into the Industrial Estate turn left your first left and right go right to the end and when you look right there's nothing
Vicky (PS0V9) [4771] There's nothing
Mum (PS0V8) [4772] There's just the warehouse
Vicky (PS0V9) [4773] But it is lovely inside
Mum (PS0V8) [4774] But it is absolutely stacked [...] all electrical appliances televisions videos all your Christmas trim trimmings and decorations
Tony (PS0V4) [4775] Hm hm
Mum (PS0V8) [4776] erm
Vicky (PS0V9) [4777] And you haven't got to spend fifty pounds.
Tony (PS0V4) [4778] No
Mum (PS0V8) [4779] All your Christma no you it's better to have it.
[4780] They do all kinds of cutlery plates and dinner sets.
[4781] There's nothing down there.
[4782] Stacks of toys
Vicky (PS0V9) [4783] Our Dawn's got a set of lights for two ninety [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4784] Two ninety five today.
[4785] ... They got the twenty there for er ninety nine pence.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4786] [...] the Father Christmas [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4787] Hm.
Mum (PS0V8) [4788] They've got stacks of Christmas they got walkies they got everything.
[4789] [...] they got tables they everything for your kids.
[4790] They got stacks and stacks of toys and a great big.
[4791] It's very
Tony (PS0V4) [4792] And it's called Fancy Goods
Mum (PS0V8) [4793] It's called Fancy Goods.
Tony (PS0V4) [4794] Right.
Mum (PS0V8) [4795] And they're open ten till five on a Sunday.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4796] [...] got to go round it.
Mum (PS0V8) [4797] I don't.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4798] Is it the [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4799] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4800] We'll find it.
Mum (PS0V8) [4801] You can't mistake it.
[4802] If you're turn if you go past the swimming baths just past swimming baths and the fork the fork there on your right you take that one.
[4803] Follow it around a bit this side you will see like a loads of cars.
[4804] Right?
[4805] And you'll a road going that way overlap
Vicky (PS0V9) [4806] And that
Mum (PS0V8) [4807] It goes into an Industrial Estate
Vicky (PS0V9) [4808] And that other place
Mum (PS0V8) [4809] And that's the road your want
Jackie (PS0V5) [4810] Just a minute I can't visualise once you get to the swimming baths
Tony (PS0V4) [4811] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4812] They do toys of course. [...]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4813] You can walk all round and have a look at the things and then go to the end and pay.
Mum (PS0V8) [4814] I took Herman over there.
[4815] He knows where it is.
[4816] Teddy bears from one fifty
Vicky (PS0V9) [4817] [...] well? [telephone]
Mum (PS0V8) [4818] They got all sorts of video erm tapes.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4819] A chocolate factory.
Mum (PS0V8) [4820] Yeah that makes me [...]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4821] had a chocolate factory can't they?
Mum (PS0V8) [4822] No that could fall down [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4823] It'll be great Tone
Tony (PS0V4) [4824] Hm mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [4825] We can just zip round and pick your stuff up.
[4826] And come out on the end of
Mum (PS0V8) [4827] Christmas cards Christmas lights.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4828] Yeah everything.
Mum (PS0V8) [4829] I can't tell you what they don't do.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4830] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4831] All these ornaments any ornaments for Christmas like you know
Tony (PS0V4) [4832] Hm mm
Mum (PS0V8) [4833] Say you wanted a bike.
[4834] I'll tell you what pay twelve pounds
Vicky (PS0V9) [4835] I want a poacher.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4836] Poach eggs?
Mum (PS0V8) [4837] Save four pounds over there.
Tony (PS0V4) [4838] Shh
Mum (PS0V8) [4839] Don't I Lorn?
Vicky (PS0V9) [4840] Yes lovey.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4841] I do I want a poacher egg poacher
Mum (PS0V8) [4842] They does microwaves and all over there [...] You got [...] It varies from one week to the next what they got.
Tony (PS0V4) [4843] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4844] They've got bikes
Tony (PS0V4) [4845] That's right yeah.
[4846] They must
Vicky (PS0V9) [4847] It just snowballs
Tony (PS0V4) [4848] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4849] And erm those.
[4850] I don't know whether you've ever seen them.
[4851] Have you seen those [...] ... and you've got like father Christmases in them.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4852] Oh I know.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4853] They're ninety nine pounds.
[4854] I got two I bought four today [...] thirty pounds each just about. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4855] Even the winter times on it [...] come and have a look.
Mum (PS0V8) [4856] Yeah.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4857] They're ninety nine pence and I paid thirty pence for four today.
[4858] You can buy a bag of six with a great big [...] .
[4859] They're only three pounds a bag.
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4860] Loads and loads of dinners there.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4861] I heard [...] I heard [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4862] Loads and loads of tools.
Tony (PS0V4) [4863] Uh huh.
[4864] Hm.
Mum (PS0V8) [4865] Screw drivers erm
Tony (PS0V4) [4866] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4867] Spanners sets everything.
[4868] They got electric [...] .
[4869] The same electric trains there [...] thirty two.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4870] Hm.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4871] Clocks you know.
[4872] And they've got grandfather clocks and all over there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4873] It would be worth going and
Tony (PS0V4) [4874] Hm Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4875] They've got [...] and [...] fifteen pence.
[4876] Anybody wanting for kids for little kids or something.
Tony (PS0V4) [4877] Oh I'll see if I could get ideas.
Mum (PS0V8) [4878] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [4879] Yeah.
[4880] And they're open seven days a week you say.
Mum (PS0V8) [4881] Seven days a week [...] morning.
Tony (PS0V4) [4882] Ah right.
Mum (PS0V8) [4883] And they're open for almost seven days yeah on Saturdays they're open I think [...] they don't open on the Sunday until ten o'clock.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4884] Ah yes
Tony (PS0V4) [4885] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4886] They got mirrors
Tony (PS0V4) [4887] No no working during the week it's really useful to have a place that's open on a Sunday.
Mum (PS0V8) [4888] They've got tights in there this week they got underpants mens underpants in fact he bought [...] .
[4889] They've got the women's fancy knickers over there and all in front
Vicky (PS0V9) [4890] They've got all the [...] knickers.
Mum (PS0V8) [4891] It's so hot [...] women and [...] erm.
[4892] Some of the ones I passed were two or three pound they're only a pound over there.
Mum (PS0V8) [4893] It's probably [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4894] Hm.
[4895] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4896] I'll find my way over there and perhaps you can come out [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4897] That'll be nice.
[4898] On Monday or Tuesday.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4899] You know wha they got.
[4900] I tell you what else.
[4901] You know these dances like [...] to music.
Tony (PS0V4) [4902] Yeah.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4903] Now they're about twelve to fifteen pounds
Mum (PS0V8) [4904] Oh day oh those are dear
Vicky (PS0V9) [4905] They're seven fifty in .
[4906] Now I tell what else we bought over there.
[4907] It's funny.
[4908] It's alarm clock but it's in the shape of er bomb.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4909] Oh!
Vicky (PS0V9) [4910] Right.
[4911] And it goes and when it goes off you have ten seconds to get up at night then [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [4912] Quickly [laugh]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4913] And then he blasts off and he says we will try once more.
[4914] When he does that again but as he keeps doing it he gets louder and louder and the bang goes louder and louder. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [4915] Hm I'm glad you told me about that Lorna
Vicky (PS0V9) [4916] I'll tell you what the old fashion alarm clocks they got.
Mum (PS0V8) [4917] Yeah.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4918] And they're only one pound twenty five.
Mum (PS0V8) [4919] With the two old fashioned bells on the top.
Christine (PS0V6) [4920] [...] the way I did now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4921] Because we'll have to get you an alarm clock won't we .
Christine (PS0V6) [4922] You won't have any money left [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4923] Hm.
[4924] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [4925] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [4926] Yeah what do you want to [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4927] What?
Mum (PS0V8) [4928] Are you [...] Jackie.
Tony (PS0V4) [4929] Sorry?
[4930] Yeah.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4931] There are nine [...] over there for a pack of twenty for about twenty five
Mum (PS0V8) [4932] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4933] Yeah we'll go over and have a look.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4934] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4935] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4936] But that's the point [...]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4937] His sister-in-law brought a cowboy down for him.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4938] Hm?
[4939] Video tapes.
[4940] Hm that's good.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [4941] About twelve.
[4942] I'm not speaking to my sister-in-law no more [laugh] .
Mum (PS0V8) [4943] Cowboy was on at half past two this morning.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [4944] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [4945] Dad we'd better go.
Mum (PS0V8) [4946] Marvellous.
[4947] We'll be there and see what [...]
Vicky (PS0V9) [4948] In private
Tony (PS0V4) [4949] Yeah that's good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4950] All right my darling.
Tony (PS0V4) [4951] Cheerio then.
Vicky (PS0V9) [4952] Cheerio see you in a fortnight.
Mum (PS0V8) [4953] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [4954] Yeah I do it all the time [...] all go down the dock.
[4955] Some going and some coming.
Tony (PS0V4) [4956] Looks like it.
Mum (PS0V8) [4957] Hello Rose
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4958] Hello [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [4959] Hello Pam.
[4960] [laugh] Some coming some going [car alarm]
Tony (PS0V4) [4961] Done it again.
[4962] Here we go [laugh] .
Mum (PS0V8) [4963] How's Mickey all right.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4964] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [4965] Hello David ...
Tony (PS0V4) [4966] Ah!
Mum (PS0V8) [4967] [...] today [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [4968] Ah yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4969] Oh God!
Tony (PS0V4) [4970] Guess what?
Jackie (PS0V5) [4971] What?
Tony (PS0V4) [4972] I had my tape running.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4973] Oh you didn't?
Tony (PS0V4) [4974] I did.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4975] Oh God! [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [4976] I had my tape running.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4977] You'll have a good one there.
Tony (PS0V4) [4978] The things is I got list everybody in the order in which they spoke.
[4979] Would you like to try that one.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [4980] Oh no thank you
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh] ...
Mum (PS0V8) [4981] Hello Lorn.
Tony (PS0V4) [4982] It's all right
Mum (PS0V8) [4983] Lorna!
[4984] ... Lorna!
Tony (PS0V4) [4985] Do you know you're part of a national survey
Christine (PS0V6) [4986] Why?
Tony (PS0V4) [4987] On the spoken word.
Christine (PS0V6) [4988] Why?
Tony (PS0V4) [4989] Because it's something I'm doing and I've just recorded all our conversation here [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4990] I didn't notice that [...] the microphone.
Christine (PS0V6) [4991] I didn't know what it was.
Tony (PS0V4) [4992] I've got little microphone up here.
Jackie (PS0V5) [4993] Good God.
Mum (PS0V8) [4994] [...] look [cough]
Jackie (PS0V5) [4995] Like like a survey down [...] have you?
Mum (PS0V8) [4996] What have you recorded?
Tony (PS0V4) [4997] What I've recorded and just letting them have the tapes.
[4998] And just keep a record of the time that I recorded it and er a little bit I've just got to give the first names of the people that were talking but it's done anonymously so there's no no problem with that.
Mum (PS0V8) [4999] You didn't tell him that I got my [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5000] No no no I didn't
Mum (PS0V8) [5001] Have a see what it's like.
Christine (PS0V6) [5002] Oh that was stupid.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5003] Ooh what was that?
Christine (PS0V6) [5004] That crazy fool run out there didn't he shouting out [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [5005] That was nasty.
[5006] Bye.
[5007] See you.
[5008] Bye.
Mum (PS0V8) [5009] I knew there was some on it. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5010] Oh dear.
Vicky (PS0V9) [5011] Cheerio.
Tony (PS0V4) [5012] Cheerio.
Mum (PS0V8) [5013] Yes yesterday she was straining the boiling water off the potatoes.
Tony (PS0V4) [5014] Hm hm
Mum (PS0V8) [5015] And it splashed back and burnt all her neck.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5016] Oh no!
[5017] Chow!
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [5018] And she burnt all her neck.
[5019] Oh that was a good time to have it on Tony
Tony (PS0V4) [5020] It was
Mum (PS0V8) [5021] Conversation on that one [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5022] So you did
Jackie (PS0V5) [5023] I tell you what as well with directions to that place on there as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [5024] The only thing is I think I'd rather try and er find out now we know it's Fancy Goods and look it up in Thompson's local and then find out the address and then we'll find our own way down there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5025] Ya.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5026] My God!
Christine (PS0V6) [5027] [...] No those posters all over the boards and there was [...] head.
Tony (PS0V4) [5028] No we'd just picked up Christine from her friend's house and I had sort of half a dozen people [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [5029] On there yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5030] to on there to note down.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5031] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5032] Somebody I'd never seen before said hello and
Christine (PS0V6) [5033] That was Shane's granddad.
Tony (PS0V4) [5034] Yeah.
[5035] Aye.
Mum (PS0V8) [5036] You got some in there tonight then Tony?
Tony (PS0V4) [5037] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5038] Oh that's brilliant.
Tony (PS0V4) [5039] Oh I wanted I wanted not being mean I wanted to get Lorna because she's a classic example of the Bristolian accent.
Mum (PS0V8) [5040] Oh yeah yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5041] Yeah .
Tony (PS0V4) [5042] And I even noticed that she she was coming out with the thees and thous that that erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [5043] And that's what they want.
Tony (PS0V4) [5044] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5045] They want dialects and accents as well as and if you tell somebody you know it immediately stops them .
Mum (PS0V8) [5046] They don't yeah They talk start talking what they think
Tony (PS0V4) [5047] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [5048] is properly.
Tony (PS0V4) [5049] The note says sort of don't tell people until after or unless they ask you
Jackie (PS0V5) [5050] Or unless they ask
Tony (PS0V4) [5051] they ask you directly what they're doing and erm
Mum (PS0V8) [5052] No wonder our Tone went to sit down which he don't usually do.
Tony (PS0V4) [5053] [laugh] as you're being my mum you didn't keep us very long.
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5054] It was er and when she got worked up about that Fancy Goods place [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [5055] It was really
Jackie (PS0V5) [5056] It sounds ever so good though
Tony (PS0V4) [5057] It's it's really coming out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5058] Surprising though cause normally a place like that can need a car
Mum (PS0V8) [5059] Car .
Tony (PS0V4) [5060] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5061] The thing is I suppose they rely on word of mouth.
Mum (PS0V8) [5062] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5063] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [5064] They must do.
Tony (PS0V4) [5065] Well they don't they keep there prices down because they didn't spend a lot on advertising.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5066] That's right ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5067] How's Windy?
Christine (PS0V6) [5068] All right.
Mum (PS0V8) [5069] Are you still still with us? [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5070] Still captive is he?
Mum (PS0V8) [5071] Oh dear.
Mum (PS0V8) [5072] Seems so funny having a Houdini dog.
[5073] Seems so funny having a tall dog after having short dogs.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5074] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [5075] And he's all he's all legs.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5076] Oh.
[5077] Oh they're beautiful.
Tony (PS0V4) [5078] Hm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5079] It's odd though you get used to them.
Mum (PS0V8) [5080] Yeah.
[5081] He really is all legs.
Tony (PS0V4) [5082] Oh.
Mum (PS0V8) [5083] He's got such a tiny little tummy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5084] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5085] Hm mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [5086] Big chested where their lungs are for running.
Tony (PS0V4) [5087] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5088] Yeah .
Mum (PS0V8) [5089] And nothing but miles of legs
Tony (PS0V4) [5090] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5091] Oh . ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5092] I must admit a whippet was the dog that I originally wanted.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5093] Yeah.
[5094] Very timid .
Mum (PS0V8) [5095] It's just Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5096] Hm.
Mum (PS0V8) [5097] The trouble is if you're
Jackie (PS0V5) [5098] Oh he'll come out
Mum (PS0V8) [5099] if you're the only one in house he follows you and you're looking for him and every time you're moving around he's moving around behind you [laugh] so you can't find him.
[5100] I thought I wonder where the hell's he gone.
[5101] [laugh] . I mean he was he was immediately behind me.
Tony (PS0V4) [5102] Oh ho ho ho.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5103] Oh.
Mum (PS0V8) [5104] He just goes around and I can't find him.
Christine (PS0V6) [5105] You need to take your hand off him and put it round you. [laugh] .
Mum (PS0V8) [5106] Yeah.
[5107] ... He he he keeps really close up to you when he's following you.
Tony (PS0V4) [5108] Hm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5109] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [5110] Oh. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5111] Oh I reckon they lovely.
[5112] I really do whippets.
Mum (PS0V8) [5113] He's got a lovely little face on him.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5114] Yeah. ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5115] Cause I'm I'm so used to small dogs.
[5116] It seems funny to me.
Tony (PS0V4) [5117] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5118] Yeah .
Mum (PS0V8) [5119] I you we I got used to Wendy's.
[5120] And you I mean people say whippets are not cuddly but they're just as cuddly you know you get used to picking them up .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5121] Picking them up and you get they put one paw on the settee like and I said no Windy and he went [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5122] Oh .
Mum (PS0V8) [5123] Oh . ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5124] Of course when he gets over the timidness he'll probably get up to more mischief.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5125] I'll tell you what if he's six months old you'll have to watch him chewing as well.
Mum (PS0V8) [5126] Yeah yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5127] Because he'll be losing teeth.
Mum (PS0V8) [5128] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5129] And he'll chew.
[5130] I only caught Ben chewing once.
[5131] Ben was eight months old when we had him.
[5132] He was a bit older
Mum (PS0V8) [5133] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5134] And I thought he's quiet and it was about a week after we had no twice.
[5135] And once we had it was before we had all our carpet done in the hall
Mum (PS0V8) [5136] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5137] we had a rug at the top of the stairs
Mum (PS0V8) [5138] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5139] And he was chewing the corner of this rug and it was all soggy and horrible
Mum (PS0V8) [5140] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5141] And another time he went quiet and he was in the front room and when I went in he was chewing the leg of the settee
Mum (PS0V8) [5142] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5143] And that's wood. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5144] And there's still the teeth marks on it now,
Mum (PS0V8) [5145] Oh yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5146] We can't get rid of them.
Mum (PS0V8) [5147] [...] a lot about that when you went when they went last year.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5148] Oh yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5149] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5150] Laugh.
[5151] ... Oh yeah that was lovely.
Mum (PS0V8) [5152] I was worried you wouldn't get the [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5153] Yeah. [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [5154] You left them in my pocket Remember when we went to Tesco's?
Christine (PS0V6) [5155] I thought so.
Mum (PS0V8) [5156] When you went into Tesco's.
Christine (PS0V6) [5157] I looked in my [...] the other day and I thought I thought now I haven't got it now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5158] I I thought I probably put
Christine (PS0V6) [5159] Put them away.
Tony (PS0V4) [5160] Huh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5161] When you were looking at the door
Tony (PS0V4) [5162] He wasn't looking your way was he?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5163] No.
Christine (PS0V6) [5164] [...] I expect you to put these in your pocket [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5165] And when I went to go to work I pulled me gloves what I thought out of pocket and was going to put them on and I thought er [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5166] Ooh.
[5167] Turn the heating down a just a bit.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5168] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5169] Different colour [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5170] Oh no!
[5171] It's all new.
Tony (PS0V4) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5172] Anything you say [...] menace here.
[5173] Cause in the summer when the traffic lights are changing the trees are growing over the ones this side
Mum (PS0V8) [5174] Yeah you've got an awful job to see
Jackie (PS0V5) [5175] And all you can see is the red at the top on the other side cause the walls in the way.
[5176] So if it's green it just looks as if nothing's there ... which is a bit of a nuisance.
Tony (PS0V4) [5177] Hm.
Mum (PS0V8) [5178] You've got lots of lights on this one Christine.
[5179] So that whenever
Christine (PS0V6) [5180] Oh yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5181] They always seem to do a lot just here
Mum (PS0V8) [5182] Oh yeah .
Tony (PS0V4) [5183] This little shop ... it's lovely.
[5184] ... It's only a sort of a hi-fi electrical goods place.
[5185] It's only a little shop and yet it always seems to have lovely decorations.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5186] Tony you know you're prepping Monday and Tuesday
Tony (PS0V4) [5187] Yeah when
Jackie (PS0V5) [5188] Sorry?
Tony (PS0V4) [5189] I'm in Castle Week this week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5190] Yeah no I'm talking about is it the week after your prepping?
Tony (PS0V4) [5191] The week after I'm prepping Monday Wednesday Friday.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5192] Do you need the Monday?
Tony (PS0V4) [5193] Er ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5194] I'll tell you what I've just had a thought.
[5195] Yeah yeah.
[5196] I won't be able to because Jackie be at work on double shift.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5197] Oh yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5198] So I got to stay with the dogs and
Christine (PS0V6) [5199] Daddy I'm [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5200] Until he comes home from work.
Tony (PS0V4) [5201] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [5202] Cause he advise you not to leave them on their own for too long.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5203] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [5204] For the first fortnight three weeks
Jackie (PS0V5) [5205] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5206] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [5207] That's what I was only be able to [...] on a Sunday or something like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [5208] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [5209] Mummy!
[5210] You know what we're doing on our Christmas cabaret?
[5211] ... Have I told you about that?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5212] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [5213] We've got an interview after school Wednesday ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5214] Well that's fine but you'll have to
Tony (PS0V4) [5215] Is it straight after school?
Christine (PS0V6) [5216] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5217] Right.
Christine (PS0V6) [5218] We'll have to let Grandma know then
Tony (PS0V4) [5219] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [5220] Yeah but will I be allowed to [...] ?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5221] Well you'll have to.
[5222] I mean Just the same don't walk on your own. ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5223] That's the only trouble when there's buses and that to catch.
[5224] If you're got extra time it puts you right out.
[5225] Catching a bus from [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [5226] Mummy I walk home but I walk home really
Mum (PS0V8) [5227] What time do you actually break ... up?
[5228] What time do you finish school?
Christine (PS0V6) [5229] Erm half past three
Jackie (PS0V5) [5230] Twenty five days
Christine (PS0V6) [5231] we finish half past two
Mum (PS0V8) [5232] So if they kept your half day [cough]
Mum (PS0V8) [5233] so that would be four o'clock.
[5234] It'll be dark
Tony (PS0V4) [5235] And it'll be dark by four
Christine (PS0V6) [5236] Yeah.
[5237] Normally I get home by about four o'clock
Mum (PS0V8) [5238] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [5239] It's just started to get dark but by the time it's just started to get [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5240] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5241] So it'll be just starting to get dark when you leave there?
Christine (PS0V6) [5242] Yeah.
[5243] ... Well as long as I can walk with Manda.
[5244] If I can't walk with Manda then what do I do?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5245] Then you don't stay.
Mum (PS0V8) [5246] Make sure you get Manda [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5247] in the dark.
Mum (PS0V8) [5248] If Amanda's not staying then you won't be able to stay will you?
Christine (PS0V6) [5249] No. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5250] It looks like [...] some people going into the park lately.
Mum (PS0V8) [5251] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5252] Look at this!
Tony (PS0V4) [5253] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5254] Good grief!
Tony (PS0V4) [5255] People oversh over shooting that bend.
Mum (PS0V8) [5256] And there's an accident up by the Flying Fox is it?
[5257] Up ... end of airport road there up that way?
Tony (PS0V4) [5258] Oh!
Mum (PS0V8) [5259] Some erm ... motorway police chasing a car evidently he went into the bollard and ripped the car open.
[5260] They said he was lying in the road.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5261] Oh dear
Tony (PS0V4) [5262] Oh.
Mum (PS0V8) [5263] That was early this morning.
Tony (PS0V4) [5264] Yeah.
[5265] Mm. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5266] Saw a brilliant light for a cycl .

84 (Tape 010706)

Mum (PS0V8) [5267] Show Jackie in a minute ... all that guff about laughter Michael's chest he's got back of his ... [...] .
[5268] Now how's my other baby?
[5269] All right?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5270] Love dog.
Mum (PS0V8) [5271] You my other baby.
[5272] All right?
Martin (PS0VB) [5273] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5274] The other night though we walked round and we walked bang into the entrance to the field
Martin (PS0VB) [5275] Yes
Jackie (PS0V5) [5276] You know walked right the way down and you couldn't see [...]
Martin (PS0VB) [5277] No
Jackie (PS0V5) [5278] He's he's gone [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [5279] Hello Fred.
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5280] Oh he's beautiful!
Tony (PS0V4) [5281] Laugh
Jackie (PS0V5) [5282] So you'll be all right.
Tony (PS0V4) [5283] He's a bit nervous I think
Martin (PS0VB) [5284] Yeah.
[5285] He's very timid now.
[5286] Yeah.
[5287] [...] Yeah [...] last week.
Tony (PS0V4) [5288] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5289] Yeah .
[5290] Yeah [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5291] He's definitely got [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [5292] [...] He knows everything.
Martin (PS0VB) [5293] Yes. ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5294] You're lovely!
Christine (PS0V6) [5295] And a bit of [...] don't they.
Martin (PS0VB) [5296] Well he's never seen you before he's [...] danger
Jackie (PS0V5) [5297] Yeah.
[5298] ... Oh he's lovely dog!

85 (Tape 010707)

Tony (PS0V4) [5299] How he carries his tail
Martin (PS0VB) [5300] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [giggle]
Mum (PS0V8) [5301] He won't carry it like that
Martin (PS0VB) [5302] Not walking yeah.
[5303] That's nerves yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5304] Oh.
Martin (PS0VB) [5305] When he's out walking he's upright very up right.
Tony (PS0V4) [5306] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5307] And his tail will just hang then down between his you know ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5308] Get it down my love.
Martin (PS0VB) [5309] It'll hang naturally.
[5310] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5311] Did you get your [...] what can you smell?
[5312] Do you smell another little dog is that what it is?
[5313] You smell another little dog?
[5314] Hm?
[5315] Do you smell another little dog?

86 (Tape 010708)

Mum (PS0V8) [5316] Tony have you got any change?
Tony (PS0V4) [5317] Have I got any change?
[5318] ... Change of what?
Mum (PS0V8) [5319] I thought I'd give Jackie three pounds forty eight.
Tony (PS0V4) [5320] So if I gave you one pound fifty
Mum (PS0V8) [5321] Yeah that's fine.
Tony (PS0V4) [5322] we owe you two pence
Mum (PS0V8) [5323] Two pence .
[5324] Oh oh I can't do that.
[5325] No way
Martin (PS0VB) [5326] No way
Tony (PS0V4) [5327] Jack.
Mum (PS0V8) [5328] Thank you.
[5329] Tony's got your money.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5330] Oh lovely thank you very much.
Mum (PS0V8) [5331] Well don't read all the books
Tony (PS0V4) [5332] Okay.
Mum (PS0V8) [5333] You can give her what she wants as long as she puts it down on the ... as long it's over fifty you can give her what you want.
[5334] I gave her a pound.
Martin (PS0VB) [5335] Over fifty [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5336] I gave her a pound [...] Oh you'll have to get him vaccinated [...] .
Martin (PS0VB) [5337] Yeah [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [5338] Yeah cause he's had a temporary one.
Martin (PS0VB) [5339] He's had a temporary one.
[5340] Yes.
[5341] Yes.
Mum (PS0V8) [5342] But it's not the full vaccine is it?
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5343] Within the first six weeks [...] .
[5344] It says you can ... yeah.
[5345] No he hasn't got that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5346] Full one.
Mum (PS0V8) [5347] Full one.
Tony (PS0V4) [5348] How did you catch him?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5349] Didn't
Martin (PS0VB) [5350] I didn't
Tony (PS0V4) [5351] Oh yeah he dashed oh sorry.
Mum (PS0V8) [5352] He was playing down the dog's home in the car park.
Tony (PS0V4) [5353] So ... How did they catch him in the dog's home that's what I was thinking.
Martin (PS0VB) [5354] Well he just just [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5355] Ah I see.
[5356] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5357] They must of called him and he went in.
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5358] Oh!
Martin (PS0VB) [5359] [...] come in.
Mum (PS0V8) [5360] When they came in to work they park their cars and he was playing in the car park.
[5361] I mean it's marvellous.
[5362] I mean you have [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5363] No how he found his way back again
Mum (PS0V8) [5364] Yeah.
[5365] It's marvellous.
Martin (PS0VB) [5366] Don't forget he got to [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5367] Yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [5368] [...] It's not like a race track is it?
Mum (PS0V8) [5369] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5370] Yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [5371] [...] I mean you can't [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5372] Oh maybe he's got the speed to manage it [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [5373] He has.
[5374] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5375] He's not very er
Martin (PS0VB) [5376] [...] He's getting better though.
Tony (PS0V4) [5377] It's marvellous.
Mum (PS0V8) [...] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5378] [...] sort of explosive.
Mum (PS0V8) [5379] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5380] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5381] They go
Mum (PS0V8) [5382] [...] Yeah. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5383] Oh he can [...] ... Oh this is this is micro chip wonder.
Mum (PS0V8) [5384] [laugh] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5385] Tony this is bar code
Tony (PS0V4) [5386] Oh right [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5387] [laugh] Oh it makes you sound like they're groceries doesn't it? [laughter]
Tony (PS0V4) [5388] Yeah. ...
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5389] Yeah [...] .
Martin (PS0VB) [5390] Yeah. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5391] I think [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [5392] This one's been on before.
[5393] Mummy!
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5394] [cough] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [5395] Mummy this one's been on before.
[5396] This one.
[5397] There's two girls and they murdered this boy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5398] Is that the first part was on last week?
[5399] And this is the second part.
Christine (PS0V6) [5400] Yeah but I think this is starting.
[5401] No that girl
Jackie (PS0V5) [5402] This is second the second part of this mystery.
[5403] It's a two part mystery and it was on last week and it's on this week.
Christine (PS0V6) [5404] How did whoever get killed?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5405] They poisoned the mushroom soup.
Christine (PS0V6) [5406] I see.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5407] The mushroom soup.
Christine (PS0V6) [5408] Yeah.
[5409] I know how they did that as well.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5410] Do ya?
Christine (PS0V6) [5411] Yeah.
[5412] With erm toadstools.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5413] Yeah but all of them ate it and he was still he was the only one that died.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5414] Hm.
[5415] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5416] [...] We haven't done it yet.
[5417] Because he's never off the lead.
Mum (PS0V8) [5418] No no.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5419] But you still think well [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5420] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5421] Hm
Martin (PS0VB) [5422] That's right yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5423] You never can tell.
Christine (PS0V6) [5424] He didn't run out there once.
[5425] In the really really windy weather
Jackie (PS0V5) [5426] Yeah he didn't go out.
Christine (PS0V6) [5427] The door got blow out front Isn't Mum?
[5428] The door got blown open.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5429] Yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [5430] You won't be the first in the front there.
Mum (PS0V8) [5431] Oh lovely.
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5432] It's the ones that come up every year.
[5433] Isn't it Matt?
Martin (PS0VB) [5434] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5435] It makes a difference.
[5436] Is it perennial the ones they call them ones that come up every year?
Martin (PS0VB) [5437] Perennials.
Mum (PS0V8) [5438] I think so.
Martin (PS0VB) [5439] Perennials.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [5440] Stomach pains.
[5441] Violent pains.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [5442] Can't you complain about anything else.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [5443] Isn't that enough.
[5444] That's what you get when someone throws the pans at you.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [5445] Did your sister have any specific worries or problems?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [5446] You mean apart from being married to him? [...]
Martin (PS0VB) [5447] Are you all right?
Mum (PS0V8) [5448] I think [...] Amanda's [...] ?
Christine (PS0V6) [5449] Yeah.
[5450] We played erm game murder in the dark.
Mum (PS0V8) [5451] Mm mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [5452] Erm [...] .
[5453] You got this piece of paper and it's got murder victim policeman and judge.
Mum (PS0V8) [5454] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [5455] And you fold them up and you put them in something.
[5456] You pull one out and whatever it says on there you've got to pick and [...] if there are a policeman judge victim then you just walk around the room.
[5457] If you are the murderer you've got to walk around the room and do that to somebody.
[5458] And then they fall down and die and they give a signal er they scream and they pick something up.
[5459] And then [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5460] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [5461] And then the judge has got to ask the people where they were and then you've got to clap something so they clap clap and then [cough] you've got to point at somebody.
Mum (PS0V8) [5462] Mm mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [5463] And ... and then you just keep going like that.
[5464] But one thing you've got to turn out all the lights.
[5465] Everybody's
Mum (PS0V8) [5466] How many of you were there down there then?
Christine (PS0V6) [5467] Four.
[5468] [...] there was the murderer victim judge policeman.

87 (Tape 010709)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [5469] Oh when you have a dog from there and you can't keep it
Jackie (PS0V5) [5470] You can take it back.
Mum (PS0V8) [5471] You can take it back.
[5472] Yeah but you must have it [...] you mustn't pass it on to anybody else.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5473] Oh.
[5474] If you find it too difficult to manage or
Tony (PS0V4) [5475] Hm mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [5476] But it's actually now made out as an adoption ... of the dog.
Tony (PS0V4) [5477] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5478] You don't own it.
[5479] You adopt it to bring it back.
Tony (PS0V4) [5480] Hm hm. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5481] What's that Dad?
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5482] Oh!
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5483] You've been lovely.
Martin (PS0VB) [5484] Yeah [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Martin (PS0VB) [5485] Yeah [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [5486] They flatter him up there at [...] didn't they Tony?
[5487] Sparks flying out of the back of the
Tony (PS0V4) [5488] Oh yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5489] horses heels.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5490] Oh!
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5491] Quite a stocky horse wasn't he?
Mum (PS0V8) [5492] Oh yeah yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5493] Hm ... So he's good really for you to ride him really cause he's
Martin (PS0VB) [5494] Yeah ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5495] Mm mm.
Martin (PS0VB) [5496] That was your [...] wrong.
[5497] ... [...] my job. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5498] Ah!
[5499] ... Yeah Granddad had a Consul didn't he?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5500] And a Rover.
Tony (PS0V4) [5501] And a Rover.
[5502] ... But before the Rover he had a Consul.
Mum (PS0V8) [5503] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [5504] Estate [phone rings] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5505] There's something here about [...] bed.
[5506] It says here don't put [...] it likely to be very insecure and may misinterpret what reaction.
[5507] It says your [...] umbrella.
Tony (PS0V4) [5508] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5509] You can't get [...] unless you've got a broom in your hand or a brush.
[5510] It's not as bad now as it used to be
Mum (PS0V8) [5511] No
Tony (PS0V4) [5512] No
Mum (PS0V8) [5513] Stays awake.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5514] He walked he won't walk past you won't walk past you he'll walk back.
Tony (PS0V4) [5515] If you're hoovering.
[5516] If you're hoovering he'll go all the way round to try
Mum (PS0V8) [5517] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5518] to try and keep away from
Mum (PS0V8) [5519] Windy don't like the Hoover.
[5520] I put it on this morning he didn't like it.
Tony (PS0V4) [5521] Hm. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5522] Oh it's not that there isn't it?
[5523] ... There you've got a new friend now.
[5524] Isn't that nice?
[5525] All new friends. [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5526] Leave him alone.
[5527] Fred leave Windy alone.
Tony (PS0V4) [5528] No thanks Dad.
Martin (PS0VB) [5529] Yes.
Mum (PS0V8) [5530] No he hasn't got any use of [...] no.
[5531] He's so good seeing he's only been here two days.
Martin (PS0VB) [5532] [...] job.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5533] Mind you he'll change a lot.
Mum (PS0V8) [5534] Oh yes as he gets used to you
Jackie (PS0V5) [5535] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5536] he'll got more lively.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5537] Yeah.
[5538] We found that with Ben and he changed Ben changed when when he actually matured.
Mum (PS0V8) [5539] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5540] Because the postman milkman he didn't take any notice until he matured.
Mum (PS0V8) [5541] Yeah and then
Jackie (PS0V5) [5542] Then all of a sudden
Tony (PS0V4) [5543] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5544] You know and
Mum (PS0V8) [5545] But they are they're pretty docile type of dog but they're a chaser.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5546] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5547] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5548] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5549] They tend to like [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5550] We've
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5551] Yeah.
[5552] And erm with a dog that moves that quickly he's not just a chaser he's a catcher as well
Mum (PS0V8) [5553] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5554] Yeah definitely. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5555] I notice that with Ben.
[5556] He saw something erm he saw a cat and he zoomed out the front door and he was gone and it's only when he lost sight of the cat he thought about where he was
Jackie (PS0V5) [5557] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5558] He just went straight for him and you know he just didn't think about where he was going or anything and he
Mum (PS0V8) [5559] And when he comes to look round
Tony (PS0V4) [5560] He was completely lost
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5561] And as it was I could see him and I called him and he looked over and he saw me and he came dashing across all the gardens.
[5562] He was ever so pleased to see me.
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5563] Yeah. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5564] But ... he see a cat and choo he's gone ...
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [5565] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5566] You know cause it's all been on here.
Christine (PS0V6) [5567] Yeah I suppose so.
Mum (PS0V8) [5568] I first [...] when I come in this morning Fred was on his blanket.
[5569] Then once this morning Fred's bum was on his blanket and Windy curled up by the side of him.
[5570] ... Well they can't be arch enemies to do that can they?
[5571] ... But when he gets up he unwinds.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5572] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [5573] And curly [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5574] And then he stretches and he stretches so far
Tony (PS0V4) [5575] And he gets longer and longer
Jackie (PS0V5) [5576] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5577] [laugh] You wonder how much longer he's gonna
Mum (PS0V8) [5578] Can he get yeah ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5579] He won't get much bigger though from what I Wendy's dog he's nearly there
Mum (PS0V8) [5580] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5581] No.
[5582] He's pretty much all brown isn't he?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5583] I didn't expect him to be quite that big but he
Mum (PS0V8) [5584] I said to you he was pretty tall.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5585] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5586] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5587] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [5588] Leave the door open a minute Christine it's a bit warm in here.
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5589] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [5590] Shall I take the [...] out?
Mum (PS0V8) [5591] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5592] Oh year
Martin (PS0VB) [5593] [...] I mean outside [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5594] Oh no.
[5595] It says in here six weeks.
Martin (PS0VB) [5596] Yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [5597] [...] No with them being so fast it's not [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5598] No.
Mum (PS0V8) [5599] Yeah but I think it's a period of six weeks.
[5600] ... [tv on] I mean that gives them time to become accustomed.
[5601] He'll go backwards and forwards in that field so often.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5602] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5603] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5604] He said you weren't to let a new dog off the lead until he had [...] for six weeks
Christine (PS0V6) [5605] Gosh!
Mum (PS0V8) [5606] I think perhaps if you go over the field after Ben she would make [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5607] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5608] After about six weeks you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [5609] He certainly seems to know his way around now doesn't he? [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [5610] He can find us [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5611] Especially us.
[5612] It's the first time he's been brought out this way as far as we know
Mum (PS0V8) [5613] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5614] And er he wasn't walked up.
Mum (PS0V8) [5615] He was brought up in a car.
[5616] It's fascinating how he found his way down there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5617] Yeah. ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5618] I though
Jackie (PS0V5) [5619] He doesn't know where he lives [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5620] Round that [...] erm [...] I think he was found may I need to ask?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5621] Oh yeah.
[5622] It's not that far is it?
Mum (PS0V8) [5623] Isn't it funny that Ben come from [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5624] Yeah yeah. [laughter] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5625] And he's so lovely.
[5626] I mean he don't although Fred is totally different breeding it's Fred's his eyes.
Mum (PS0V8) [5627] Yeah yeah it's very much like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [5628] Mm and the ears are very similar.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5629] Only Ben's stand right up. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5630] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5631] But [...] flop down.
Tony (PS0V4) [5632] But Ben's flop down sometimes uh huh.
[5633] Most of the time they flop down.
Christine (PS0V6) [5634] And he's [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5635] Well not like that.
[5636] If Ben was led like that he'd they'd be up straight.
Tony (PS0V4) [5637] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5638] I think there might be a whippet Jack Russel cross.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5639] He's very long in the body for a
Mum (PS0V8) [5640] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5641] small dog.
Mum (PS0V8) [5642] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5643] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5644] He's got quite a long body which is what
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5645] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5646] Did you have a good tea at Manda's?
Christine (PS0V6) [5647] I had a little bit to eat.
Mum (PS0V8) [5648] Oh good.
Christine (PS0V6) [5649] First [...] er
Jackie (PS0V5) [5650] [...] to answer me back [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5651] Mm.
[5652] Do you know did it say how much it is?
Tony (PS0V4) [5653] Hm yeah.
[5654] We can think about it after Christmas.
[5655] We can't do it now.
[5656] [...] Or next year.
[5657] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5658] Is it?
[5659] Oh oh that's in good time.
[5660] February/March we've had time to get over Christmas.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5661] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5662] And the massive amount of money we're going to spend on my birthday present.
Mum (PS0V8) [5663] Oh [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5664] Oh yeah? [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5665] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5666] Oh Windy got nothing of yours over there. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5667] Why you're going to take me out to er Easy Runner aren't you?
[5668] ... Specialist running shop up in Saint Michaels Hill.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5669] Oh yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5670] They've got several in erm ... I suppose they are sport they are sport shoes covers running.
Tony (PS0V4) [5671] Yeah.
[5672] There are lots of shops about [dog barking] it's er sports shoes [dog barking] .
[5673] There a lots lots of shops about that spell sell sports shoes
Mum (PS0V8) [5674] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5675] And they got shoes for squash and shoes for
Mum (PS0V8) [5676] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5677] And shoes for tennis and shoes for this and shoes for that.
[5678] But this
Mum (PS0V8) [5679] But the other ones are for running?
Tony (PS0V4) [5680] yeah and they sell running shoes as well.
[5681] But this one is a running specialist.
[5682] They do nothing but sell equipment for runners.
[5683] And the people who run the shop are runners themselves and you can sort of go to them and ask their advice on all sorts of things
Mum (PS0V8) [5684] What special
Tony (PS0V4) [5685] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5686] support and that you need?
Tony (PS0V4) [5687] Yeah all sort of things like that.
Mum (PS0V8) [5688] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [5689] Erm and not just shoes.
[5690] You might go up there and er I dunno you what's what's a good way of getting myself seen when I'm going out running at night and things like that you know and they'll give you advice and they'll say well there's this you can use or that
Mum (PS0V8) [5691] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5692] Or you know ... about all sorts of running problems.
Mum (PS0V8) [5693] Did you fill up your form about your voices.
Tony (PS0V4) [5694] Mm?
Mum (PS0V8) [5695] You've filled in your form about your voices .
Tony (PS0V4) [5696] Yeah I've done that.
Mum (PS0V8) [5697] [laugh] [phone rings] What you put?
Tony (PS0V4) [5698] Hm?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5699] Shouting match. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5700] No I've got to put first name
Mum (PS0V8) [5701] Hm mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [5702] Occupation
Mum (PS0V8) [5703] Hm mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [5704] Male or female
Jackie (PS0V5) [5705] All this the first one on on that bit?
Tony (PS0V4) [5706] Well I reckon Aunty Iris was the first one cause she said oh hello
Mum (PS0V8) [5707] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5708] how are you?
[5709] And then Lorna started.
Mum (PS0V8) [5710] Yeah Huh and then Lorna went on and then
Tony (PS0V4) [5711] And then
Mum (PS0V8) [5712] Lorna went on [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5713] Yeah.
[5714] And then you said something
Mum (PS0V8) [5715] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [5716] And I already had Jackie because Jackie had been speaking earlier on the tapes.
[5717] So I put Aunty Iris and then Lorna then you.
Mum (PS0V8) [5718] Mm mm.
[5719] ... I was watching the television and then all of a sudden it's too late ... and then found out it's hard work.
[5720] ... Notice I done your clothes cupboard out again?
Martin (PS0VB) [5721] No never noticed.
[5722] ... Oh all right.
[5723] Yeah yeah yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5724] You were able to find it more easily weren't you?
Martin (PS0VB) [5725] Oh yes yes.
Mum (PS0V8) [5726] [laugh] instead of being rolled up in a ball
Jackie (PS0V5) [5727] Oh [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [5728] Jackie he was he was looking he was for something and he was looking for something in a hurry ... and I couldn't find out I like T-shirts in one pile sweat shirts in another pullovers in another jeans in another but they were all sort of
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5729] I had to sort them all out again so you can see what he got up there.
Tony (PS0V4) [5730] I tend to put sweat shirts and jumpers together.
Martin (PS0VB) [5731] Yeah well what I do sometimes I wear a thing just once and I think well it's not dirty so I put it back in.
Tony (PS0V4) [5732] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5733] That's right and a Parker pen.
[5734] ... No no I like a separate pile for sweat shirts and pullovers and jumpers.
Tony (PS0V4) [5735] Well the proper place is in the cupboard.
[5736] It doesn't matter where but as long as it's in the cupboard .
Mum (PS0V8) [5737] No no .
[5738] Oh yes it does.
[5739] It matters.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5740] It's bad I know I [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5741] If you go up and want a T-shirt you go to that pile.
[5742] If you go up and want a sweat shirt you go that pile.
Tony (PS0V4) [5743] If I want a T-shirt I don't go to any pile I go to the hangers.
[5744] Because I hang my T-shirts up. [laughter]
Mum (PS0V8) [5745] Oh [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5746] I hang my shirts and my T-shirts up.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5747] and my sweat shirts and jumpers I I fold up and they're all in together.
Mum (PS0V8) [5748] Well we don't [...] together. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5749] It might be [...] because I keep looking at mine and [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [5750] I must sort that out .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5751] Of course ours will be high up
Mum (PS0V8) [5752] Yeah yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5753] so you can't push anything in the back.
Mum (PS0V8) [5754] No you you got a more or less get up on something to sort it out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5755] Yeah so overdue for getting up there and sorting.
Martin (PS0VB) [5756] Erm [...] [dogs barking] [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5757] Hm hm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5758] So ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5759] Good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5760] But once I decide that's settled I'd notice it cause you couldn't seem to get down.
[5761] All the others you didn't see cause they're down at the bottom so when this lot [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5762] Hm mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [5763] So that particular one seems to be [...] late tonight.
[5764] And it's as if it wasn't floating on the surface and it was doing all the things that fishes do but it was
Mum (PS0V8) [5765] Is [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5766] What is it?
[5767] They called it dropsy.
Mum (PS0V8) [5768] Oh yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5769] This one they say.
[5770] And they say it's very rare.
Mum (PS0V8) [5771] Mm mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5772] But they say the fish gets that's one one of the symptoms it gets very bloated out.
Mum (PS0V8) [5773] Bloated.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5774] They say if it gets it take the fish out and destroy it but it's knowing it
Mum (PS0V8) [5775] Yeah you might be destroying it and it might just over ate [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5776] That's right [...] the fish won't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [5777] Ah ha ... [cough] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5778] Gosh!
[5779] ... He's got a coat just like Ben's hasn't he?
Mum (PS0V8) [5780] Yeah.
[5781] Silky and er
Martin (PS0VB) [...] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5782] No I don't I made it like mug soup not plain soup.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5783] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5784] So greeny isn't it?
Mum (PS0V8) [5785] Yeah.
[5786] [cough] Let the grain go well er matured [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [5787] Oh I loved that bit in Shogun I don't know if you remember it.
[5788] Or whether you saw it at all.
[5789] But they had er Richard Chamberlain shot pheasant
Mum (PS0V8) [5790] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5791] And he hung it up outside his house
Mum (PS0V8) [5792] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5793] To let it get ... let it rot.
[5794] Let it get gamey and he's erm Chinese assistant the person who has been assigned to sort of look after him and do his do his translating and things like that took it down and buried it [laughter] cause they didn't eat rotten meat they did [laughter] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5795] Oh you can't beat a wet shave ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5796] I don't like Gillette ...
Martin (PS0VB) [5797] No. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5798] You can't beat a wet shave ... I find I find I mean people have said that oh having a wet shave makes my face sore and things like that.
[5799] I find that using an electric shaver makes your face sore cause you're rubbing your face all the time.
[5800] Whereas
Mum (PS0V8) [5801] But I mean with a blade it's only one
Tony (PS0V4) [5802] That's right
Mum (PS0V8) [5803] Yeah yeah .
Tony (PS0V4) [5804] and it's all I mean I use this gel stuff
Mum (PS0V8) [5805] Hm
Tony (PS0V4) [5806] which doesn't dry the skin dry the skin out or anything and erm it's just like washing your face with water.
[5807] I mean it doesn't ... I used to hate it when I was doing plays there and you have er grease paint on and you'd be you'd try and you'd have to cream on your face to get the grease grease paint off .
Mum (PS0V8) [5808] Get it off .
Tony (PS0V4) [5809] And so you'd be putting lots and lots of grease and much on your skin and then you get spots.
Mum (PS0V8) [5810] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5811] And you'd be trying to shave and you don't want to cut spots.
Mum (PS0V8) [5812] Err!
Tony (PS0V4) [5813] Oh!
[5814] Horrible! [sniff]
Mum (PS0V8) [5815] And the cream actually brought you out in spots did it?
[5816] That they were putting on or was it the actual make up or?
Tony (PS0V4) [5817] Well it's just it's not the the grease the make up or the cream it's the fact that you're you're putting so much muck on your skin all the time and it clogs up pores and causes spots.
[5818] ... Cause you have to put a lot of cream on your face to get the make up off ... and you do that especially if you're doing two performances a day ... it's an awful lot mess and much you're putting on your face and you can't get it all off ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5819] Done anything about a Christmas presents yet Jack?
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5820] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5821] [...] which [cough] got a lot more space.
Mum (PS0V8) [5822] Oh!
Jackie (PS0V5) [5823] Three drawers down one side and it's got it
Mum (PS0V8) [5824] Oh!
Jackie (PS0V5) [5825] And there's a support the other side is a book shelf.
Mum (PS0V8) [5826] Oh that's nice.
Tony (PS0V4) [5827] Hm.
Mum (PS0V8) [5828] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [5829] [...] got one exactly the same as that except it's wooden.
[5830] It's got three doors one side and a book shelf the other side.
Tony (PS0V4) [5831] Hm.
Christine (PS0V6) [5832] It's wood.
[5833] It's got red handles.
Mum (PS0V8) [5834] As same as [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5835] Is it nice?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5836] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [5837] Where's that Grace is it?
Christine (PS0V6) [5838] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5839] Hm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5840] It's like you know at the moment
Tony (PS0V4) [5841] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5842] On the bookshelf of the [...] side.
Tony (PS0V4) [5843] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5844] You might be able to decide which side you want it on then Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [5845] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [5846] Yeah .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5847] Because if you're right handed
Tony (PS0V4) [5848] It's a flat pack Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [5849] Mum is it wooden?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5850] I don't know.
[5851] It's erm
Tony (PS0V4) [5852] Well it er it will be wood but whether it's covered over whether it's wood grain or whether it's white or I don't know.
Mum (PS0V8) [5853] They might have a selection.
[5854] They might have it done in white black and wood.
Tony (PS0V4) [5855] Hm. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [5856] So we I think we might go with mightn't we?
Mum (PS0V8) [5857] Hm mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [5858] Hm. ...
Mum (PS0V8) [5859] Did she decide what she's doing with her money yet?
[5860] Still making less [...] [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5861] She's more or less [...] she's er
Tony (PS0V4) [5862] We're gonna have to hurry up now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5863] Yes.
[5864] She's going get Aunty Iris' [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [5865] [...] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5866] And if there's any over she might be able to get some other bits for it.
Mum (PS0V8) [5867] Desk yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5868] I mean she she might want to buy ... a nice desk.
[5869] No she's got a desk tidy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5870] She's got a desk tidy.
Tony (PS0V4) [5871] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [5872] What might be an idea is to get her some good blotters.
[5873] Not ones with blotting paper.
Tony (PS0V4) [5874] No no I know
Tony (PS0V4) [5875] Yeah I know.
Mum (PS0V8) [5876] Yeah because this one because it's easier to write on than er than a wooden .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5877] Yeah it's like er a very a layer of plastic with a very thin layer of sort of felt underneath.
[5878] So when you write it's soft.
[5879] It's was like you were writing on a writing pad.
[5880] Because you don't feel right on wooden table it's quite hard isn't it?
Christine (PS0V6) [5881] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5882] Well it makes it it's a nice soft surface for you to write on.
Christine (PS0V6) [5883] You mean something like sort of like a board.
[5884] Like Daddy had in [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5885] That's right.
Christine (PS0V6) [5886] Yeah only [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5887] This [...] After having a think.
[5888] I reckon most of your books will go in that bookcase.
[5889] Which would mean you could you could have your work
Christine (PS0V6) [5890] I could put my little shell boxes on top of the shelf.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5891] That's right.
[5892] You could put all sorts of little things in there.
[5893] But let's wait and see cause I'll take you out and we'll have a look.
[5894] Perhaps next weekend.
Mum (PS0V8) [5895] Yeah.
[5896] What is it another free weekend?
Christine (PS0V6) [5897] Right I reckon I'm going to get [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [5898] [cough] he just folds up.
Mum (PS0V8) [5899] Peculiar.
[5900] You'd never think he'd go into that sort of ball. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5901] I must admit they're lovely to cuddle because they do curl up into a ball.
[5902] They love cuddling.
Christine (PS0V6) [5903] Oh yeah. [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5904] Let's wait and see.
Tony (PS0V4) [5905] See what we can get.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5906] If there isn't any chance you could get a [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [5907] I'd just love to get that.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [5908] Could I? ...
Christine (PS0V6) [5909] Make it first on the lead.
Christine (PS0V6) [5910] No.
[5911] Because I think Thursday Daddy'll be working.
Christine (PS0V6) [5912] Oh yeah well
Jackie (PS0V5) [5913] You've got to have it when ... there's least disturbance.
Tony (PS0V4) [5914] There are ... two problems with that.
[5915] There are things certain things I'm committed to and ... to have ... time off means I still got to be able to do those things.
[5916] Do you see what I mean?
[5917] So I've got to watch that.
[5918] But I could manage.
[5919] I could certainly manage to have a half day.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5920] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5921] And if we we're looking around in town.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5922] Well we will be.
Christine (PS0V6) [5923] Could I have a day off?
Jackie (PS0V5) [5924] It's a bit late.
Tony (PS0V4) [5925] Okay but
Jackie (PS0V5) [5926] This is it.
[5927] If we going out [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5928] you'd have to you'd have to come and get me and we'd go straight off .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5929] Well the thing is
Christine (PS0V6) [5930] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5931] The thing is.
Tony (PS0V4) [5932] The other thing erm is that I haven't got any leave.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5933] Oh hell no!
[5934] Of course I've got my leave [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5935] Yeah.
[5936] I haven't got any leave.
[5937] What I've got enough leave to take the time off over Christmas.
[5938] That's all agreed.
[5939] But I haven't got any extra.
[5940] And I already took a half day off flexi leave .
Jackie (PS0V5) [5941] Daddy'll [...] we'll have to do it .
Tony (PS0V4) [5942] I've already took a half day off flexy leave to have my driving test last week
Mum (PS0V8) [5943] And if you do it on the tenth [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5944] Hm.
[5945] Erm and I really want to ... I will build up some more time but I haven't got any to take at the moment.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5946] Look we've got to sort your bedroom out first.
[5947] First job.
Mum (PS0V8) [5948] You don't have it till Christmas anyway.
Christine (PS0V6) [5949] Oh but [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [5950] Now I don't get any more leave till February now.
[5951] I've got some leave
Jackie (PS0V5) [5952] You'll have to get it first .
Tony (PS0V4) [5953] But what I've got booked is that I finish ... when's Christmas?
[5954] Is it a Wednesday?
[5955] I finish the Friday before that Wednesday.
Mum (PS0V8) [5956] That's nice.
Tony (PS0V4) [5957] And I don't go back until the Thursday after New Year's day
Mum (PS0V8) [5958] New year's day .
[5959] That's lovely.
Tony (PS0V4) [5960] And we've both got that lecture time off and so ... but that's used up all my leave.
[5961] I haven't got any more to take until after February.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5962] Well how do you feel either tomorrow night?
[5963] No perhaps not tomorrow night.
[5964] Tuesday night about seeing if we can do a bit more sorting out in her bedroom.
[5965] Cause if we leave it all till the weekend we don't do it.
[5966] You know what it's like?
Tony (PS0V4) [5967] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5968] Specially now Brian's got your driving lessons instead of the middle of the day?
Tony (PS0V4) [5969] Yeah.
[5970] The only other thing is to er ... it's no good.
[5971] We've got to do things in the morning.
Mum (PS0V8) [5972] Yeah.
[5973] It opens till nine o'clock any night.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [5974] Erm I don't know.
Tony (PS0V4) [5975] But but if you if you wanted to er come and meet me from work ... we could go straight off somewhere then.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5976] Yeah but you see the thing is that if I come and meet you by the time you [...] no point.
[5977] We don't get home till ten to six.
[5978] So that if we have to go to Brislington we won't get there until ten to six.
[5979] You know what it was like when we went to Tescos.
[5980] Be fair ... after work .
Tony (PS0V4) [5981] Yeah but it's open till eight o'clock.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5982] Oh yes it's open till eight.
Mum (PS0V8) [5983] If they were open till late you could er
Jackie (PS0V5) [5984] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5985] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5986] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5987] You know a lot of places that will be open late.
[5988] All the shops in town are open late on one night a week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5989] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [5990] But I can't remember what night it is.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5991] I'll phone them up then and see.
Tony (PS0V4) [5992] I believe ... [...] in in town.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5993] What?
[5994] Or easier still I'll tell you what.
Tony (PS0V4) [5995] Hm. mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [5996] I'm going into Tesco tomorrow
Tony (PS0V4) [5997] I've got a feeling
Jackie (PS0V5) [5998] If I get back
Tony (PS0V4) [5999] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6000] God knows where M F I is in If I get him to drive me round now I'll remember which way to go.
Tony (PS0V4) [6001] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6002] It's not very far off the beaten track
Tony (PS0V4) [6003] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6004] I'll have a look round
Tony (PS0V4) [6005] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [6006] And then we'll have to see if we can sort out something else.
Tony (PS0V4) [6007] I mean
Jackie (PS0V5) [6008] Because we'll find it.
[6009] On the weekend we've got so much
Mum (PS0V8) [6010] Yes you've got no time to do it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6011] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6012] We don't get a chance.
[6013] What we're trying to get the washing and ironing up together and the house work and everything is well you just don't get time to do it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6014] Hm. ...
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6015] We did have this problem before but we started earlier didn't we?
[6016] Last Christmas?
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [6017] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [6018] Oh no I we had some time off didn't we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6019] Yeah we did.
Tony (PS0V4) [6020] I haven't get any time off I can take now.
[6021] ... I could possibly have a half day next Monday.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6022] Well let me go over and have a look at it and see what they've got.
[6023] They may have more than one ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6024] Because this week I'm I'm doing a five day course I tend to add on about an hour to my time ... every day.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6025] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6026] Cause I tend to do half past eight till half past five with no lunch.
[6027] [laugh] If I do that that's five hours I'll have built up in one week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6028] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6029] So I could take out half a day
Jackie (PS0V5) [6030] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [6031] then.
Christine (PS0V6) [6032] Come on Fred.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6033] Super Fred.
[6034] His little legs will going so fast you won't see them [laughter]
Tony (PS0V4) [6035] [laugh] Yeah zoom!
[6036] There'll be Fred waddling along. [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [6037] He's all legs. ...
Christine (PS0V6) [6038] Hello there!

88 (Tape 010801)

Margaret (PS0VC) [6039] Hello.
Tony (PS0V4) [6040] Hello.
Margaret (PS0VC) [6041] We haven't even had a [...] yet Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [6042] Oh dear.
Margaret (PS0VC) [6043] [...] round there that Pauline brought but [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6044] Glad I came.

89 (Tape 010802)

Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6045] Tony, your office isn't in there.
Tony (PS0V4) [6046] [laugh] I thought they'd hidden me away in a cupboard. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6047] Hello [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6048] Hello.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6049] I think it's [...] to that one
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6050] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6051] cos er and if you say for all enquiries please call that.
[6052] They ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6053] Yeah.
[6054] They do actually call that
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6055] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6056] still don't know that this isn't [...] office [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6057] Good.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6058] Thank you very much for [...] .
[6059] It was really nice.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6060] Pleasure. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6061] Well ... can we deal with any of their enquiries?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6062] I don't know [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]

90 (Tape 010803)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6063] Hello Tony.
[6064] How are you?
Tony (PS0V4) [6065] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6066] How's it going?
Tony (PS0V4) [6067] It's alright.
[6068] Not too bad.
[6069] But erm ... the only thing is the er ... you did the [...] put together a [...] document, [...] file
Jackie (PS0V5) [6070] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6071] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [6072] So ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6073] [laugh] Let's pretend then is it?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6074] So like the space you did?
Tony (PS0V4) [6075] Yeah.
[6076] ... And let let them have one ... I had ... something [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6077] Erm ... can I apologize in ad , in advance Tony, but on Wednesday morning
Tony (PS0V4) [6078] Yes?
Tony (PS0V4) [6079] we shall need to interrupt just very briefly to move a couple of things out.
Tony (PS0V4) [6080] Yeah.
[6081] That's okay.
Tony (PS0V4) [6082] Alright?
[6083] Erm ... I'm asking for it to be done first so hopefully
Tony (PS0V4) [6084] Mhm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6085] it'll be while you're settling down rather when it's your er [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6086] Good.
[6087] We, we're starting at nine
Tony (PS0V4) [6088] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6089] so you know.
Tony (PS0V4) [6090] Well I'm hoping they'll come at half past eight.
[6091] In which case ... we'll be finished before you get there.
[6092] Just in case.
[6093] I think it's only three items to be moved out ... for you.
[6094] Not stuff to be moved in.
Tony (PS0V4) [6095] Good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6096] So you've got some [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6097] I got eight.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6098] You got eight?
Tony (PS0V4) [6099] Yeah

91 (Tape 010804)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6100] Mm [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6101] [laugh] It's something I'm doing at the moment.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6102] Really?
Tony (PS0V4) [6103] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6104] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6105] So if, if you wanna be wiped off ... I can do that.
[6106] [laugh] ... But if you've no objections?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6107] No, none at all.
Tony (PS0V4) [6108] That's alright.
[6109] It's all in this [...] thing here.
[6110] It's just that er ... I'm telling everybody.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6111] Mm.
[6112] How did you find out about that?
Tony (PS0V4) [6113] Ah somebody approached me.
[6114] Came to my house and
Jackie (PS0V5) [6115] Mhm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6116] when we they found out what sort of ... job I did
Jackie (PS0V5) [6117] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6118] their eyes lit up.
[6119] Cos they were trying to fill their quota
Jackie (PS0V5) [6120] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6121] and they couldn't find anybody living round by me that were employed.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6122] Oh [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6123] So [laugh] Certainly not in my age group.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6124] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6125] So er [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6126] Oh, brilliant.
Tony (PS0V4) [6127] So [...] I get the little [...] gift voucher [...] .
[6128] It just means sort of walking around ... recording [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6129] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6130] It's no problem.
[6131] And they give me all the equipment I need.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6132] Yeah. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6133] So er
Jackie (PS0V5) [6134] Mm.
[6135] Great.
Tony (PS0V4) [6136] I, I thought that everybody would ... I haven't done it on erm ... I was wondering about recording a training session.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6137] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6138] But then ... [...] first day I was with them.
[6139] It's the first day I've been with them and I thought ... I don't know.
[6140] See how it goes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6141] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6142] I might ... might check them out to see if they would mind if ... we did something later on in the week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6143] Mhm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6144] They've got to do it till Friday
Jackie (PS0V5) [6145] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6146] anyway.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6147] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6148] So ... [...] going to be talking to [...] won't you? [laugh] . actually it doesn't matter because it's
Jackie (PS0V5) [6149] [...] they'll think their offices have been bugged.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6150] Oh it's good.
Tony (PS0V4) [6151] It's quite interesting.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6152] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6153] Better show Margaret as well.
[6154] ... Margaret.
[6155] ... Can I just ... show you that.
[6156] ... Okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [6157] Yeah.
[6158] ... Where's this come from?
Tony (PS0V4) [6159] Well it's erm ... something I'm involved in.
Tony (PS0V4) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6160] And er ... something [...] ... I switched the erm recorder on just before you walked in to see if it recorded.
Tony (PS0V4) [6161] What for the whole of the morning?
Tony (PS0V4) [6162] No ... no, no.
[6163] Just ... just when I was here.
[6164] Just a minute ago.
[6165] ... But er if you've any objections I'll wipe it off but
Tony (PS0V4) [6166] All I can say is that people who hear my voice keep saying ... don't you sound like Pam Ayres.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6167] Who comes from a totally place to me.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]

92 (Tape 010805)

Tony (PS0V4) [6168] Yes, one or two.
Martin (PS0VB) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6169] Yeah.
[6170] Erm ... Oh I was just trying to remember what, what was said.
[6171] ... Something to do with ... Ah Jerry said something quite good about ... availability.
[6172] Erm ... like you can't ... although peop people will go for jobs, now produce proof of jobs they've applied for.
[6173] You can't tell whether they really want the jobs or not.
Martin (PS0VB) [6174] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6175] And and it is
Martin (PS0VB) [6176] So they're actually seeking [...] then?
Tony (PS0V4) [6177] Yeah. ...
Martin (PS0VB) [6178] Well I suppose not really.
Tony (PS0V4) [6179] No.
[6180] It shows that they've applied for the job.
[6181] It doesn't show that they wanted it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6182] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6183] They really tried.
Tony (PS0V4) [6184] Yeah.
[6185] There's no way you ... can know that unless you've got the [...] from the Job Centre that these [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6186] And gives feedback on how they turned up and
Tony (PS0V4) [6187] [...] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6188] and all this sort of thing.
Tony (PS0V4) [6189] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6190] But er
Tony (PS0V4) [6191] That's what really makes
Tony (PS0V4) [6192] something, something very odd came out of that, this Ann ... said something I thought ... what? [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6193] And ... and the thing is I didn't understand it.
[6194] So it's quite difficult to remember exactly what she said.
Tony (PS0V4) [6195] Mm. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6196] Erm ... something to do with ... no.
[6197] I can't think.
[6198] Trouble is when you don't understand it it doesn't sink in.
Tony (PS0V4) [6199] No that's right.
Tony (PS0V4) [6200] But everybody sort of.
[6201] I remembered [...] [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6202] Have you?
Tony (PS0V4) [6203] Yeah.
[6204] It's a bit like a single office group.
[6205] [...] sitting in and we're trying to split them up cos we don't want too [...] [lot of background noise]
Tony (PS0V4) [6206] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6207] Which, which they did.
[6208] But they've gone back now to sitting altogether.
[6209] So.

93 (Tape 010806)

Tony (PS0V4) [6210] What's a data type for changing date of birth?
Tony (PS0V4) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6211] Thanks.
[6212] I couldn't, I was asked and I just couldn't think of it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6213] Yeah [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6214] [...] And there were no guide fives.
Tony (PS0V4) [6215] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [6216] Otherwise I'd have said ... look it up. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6217] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6218] And I didn't have any Treas keys so I couldn't tell them to use the ... help service.
[6219] All my options were gone.
[6220] ... Oh, Judy ...
Martin (PS0VB)
Tony (PS0V4) [6221] asked after you.
[6222] How, how you were getting on.
[6223] So I said you were getting on okay [...]
Martin (PS0VB) [6224] You lied you mean.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Martin (PS0VB) [6225] Yeah, she's nice, Judy.
Tony (PS0V4) [6226] Yeah. ... [...] ?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6227] Yes.
[6228] She fell about ... at one point.
[6229] When I said thank you for that.
Tony (PS0V4) [6230] [laugh] Evidently she was sta , she was a trainer at one point was she?
Tony (PS0V4) [6231] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6232] Yes up to about ... four months ago.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6233] So they [...] use trainer speech [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6234] Yeah.
[6235] So I'm having to watch that.

94 (Tape 010807)

Tony (PS0V4) [6236] Martin. ...
Martin (PS0VB) [6237] [...] even numbers but Tony got thirteen [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6238] Yeah.
[6239] That's great.
[6240] It's my birthday on the thirteenth.
Martin (PS0VB) [6241] Is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [6242] Yeah.
[6243] Erm ... always been lucky, especially when it falls on a Friday.
[6244] Really lucky.
Martin (PS0VB) [6245] That's this year isn't it?
[6246] Friday the thirteenth?
[6247] This month?
Tony (PS0V4) [6248] Ah.
[6249] Not, not this month, no.
[6250] [...] February.
[6251] Whenever it falls on a Friday it's always a very good birthday.
[6252] Erm ... I've put these codes in my box.
Martin (PS0VB) [6253] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6254] Being nice.
Martin (PS0VB) [6255] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6256] And sort of not wanting them to go astray.
Martin (PS0VB) [6257] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [6258] I've now got them on my desk and I don't know where to put them.
[6259] ... Could you politely suggest [laugh]
Martin (PS0VB) [6260] Those three cabinets.
Tony (PS0V4) [6261] Oh right.
Martin (PS0VB) [6262] Alright.
[6263] So [...] research [...] sort of
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6264] Ah.

95 (Tape 010808)

Tony (PS0V4) [6265] Huh.
[6266] I've lost my bearings now.
[6267] I don't know where anything is.
Tony (PS0V4) [6268] Well I [...] [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6269] I want ... the cabinet with all the supplies for the trainees.
[6270] For erm ... tea, coffee and stuff.
Tony (PS0V4) [6271] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [6272] Tea and coffee?
Tony (PS0V4) [6273] I know it was ... was it on the bottom of the A to Z thing? ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6274] I wouldn't know.
Tony (PS0V4) [6275] The A to Z file's in there.
[6276] There's a big [...] Tony.
Tony (PS0V4) [6277] A to Z files in?
Tony (PS0V4) [6278] The A to Z files are over there.
Tony (PS0V4) [6279] Right.
[6280] I think that's where it is. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6281] And [...] .
[6282] Yeah there's only two lots of cabinets.
[6283] One lot over there and one lot there.

96 (Tape 010809)

Tony (PS0V4) [6284] Paid the phone bill and the Access.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6285] Oh great.
Tony (PS0V4) [6286] Okay.
[6287] And I'll go and see the building
Jackie (PS0V5) [6288] [...] this morning.
Tony (PS0V4) [6289] Oh!
Jackie (PS0V5) [6290] [...] [blowing nose] knocked at the door at ten past eight.
Tony (PS0V4) [6291] Oh!
Jackie (PS0V5) [6292] And he kept persisting because he saw a light on.
Tony (PS0V4) [6293] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6294] You know?
[6295] So I didn't know what [...] .
[6296] [...] through the door again the bugger.
Tony (PS0V4) [6297] That's right.
[6298] ... Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6299] Our dad had a [...] ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [6300] Mad, innit?

97 (Tape 010810)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6301] Oh I haven't got much to do now then.
[6302] That's one skirt, two sweatshirts.
[6303] And your jeans and that.
[6304] I've nearly done, about another quarter of an hour or so.
Tony (PS0V4) [6305] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6306] Okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [6307] Yeah.
[6308] ... . Make us some tea okay?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6309] Okay.
Tony (PS0V4) [6310] No the course went alright today.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6311] Good.
[6312] Are they a reasonably nice group?
Tony (PS0V4) [6313] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6314] They're not, you haven't got any troublemakers?
Tony (PS0V4) [6315] No.
[6316] One or two a bit odd.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6317] A bit odd!
Tony (PS0V4) [6318] But they're alright.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6319] What do you mean a bit odd?
Tony (PS0V4) [6320] Erm ... there's one girl who's a bit erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [6321] Weird?
[6322] Define odd [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6323] Er ... She's very ... very sure of herself.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6324] Oh one of those. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6325] But she's wrong. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6326] Yeah.
[6327] Oh well I'm sure you can knock her into shape.
Tony (PS0V4) [6328] Oh yeah.
[6329] ... [...] say
Jackie (PS0V5) [6330] Find it a bit easier now you've done [...] three as well?
Tony (PS0V4) [6331] I, I feel more confident, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6332] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6333] I just sort of say ... no, er [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6334] Yeah.
[6335] ... . Must turn that radio off.
[6336] It's driving me nuts actually.
Tony (PS0V4) [6337] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6338] You can have too much of a good thing.
Tony (PS0V4) [6339] Or a bad thing as the case may be.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6340] Yeah.
[6341] I've been listening to it ... for a while.
Tony (PS0V4) [6342] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6343] I've got a ... oh I've got a carol practice tomorrow.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6344] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6345] So I'm not gonna be able to get to the building society until Wednesday.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6346] Well that's their tough luck.
[6347] It's their mistake.
Tony (PS0V4) [6348] Yeah okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6349] So
Tony (PS0V4) [6350] So long as you feel like that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6351] I'm not that brokenhearted and I'm, no I'm annoyed.
[6352] Does the standing order form say what day of the month it's to be taken out on?
[6353] Do you have to fill that in?
[6354] ... On the such and such day of the month innit?
Tony (PS0V4) [6355] Don't think it does.
[6356] ... Cos I filled it all out and I don't remember having to ... if there had been anything like that I'd have asked you about it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6357] No I'm fed up with them.
[6358] This is twice now they've done this to us.
Tony (PS0V4) [6359] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6360] You know.
[6361] They
Tony (PS0V4) [6362] Yeah.
[6363] Well I'll go in and see them and sort it out.
[6364] ... But
Jackie (PS0V5) [6365] Only I've got a horrible feeling [...] if it's
Tony (PS0V4) [6366] not until Wednesday
Jackie (PS0V5) [6367] not done ... by now
Tony (PS0V4) [6368] It won't be right this month either.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6369] It won't be right this month either, but if that's the case
Tony (PS0V4) [6370] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6371] we can write an extra cheque.
Tony (PS0V4) [6372] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6373] You know?
Tony (PS0V4) [6374] That's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6375] But I'd rather if you didn't mind that you did go in and sort it out cos she said ... well put a cheque in the envelope with the standing order form but I mean
Tony (PS0V4) [6376] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6377] [laugh] That's just ... they've already ... putting it frankly cocked it up once.
Tony (PS0V4) [6378] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6379] Another opportunity for them to do it again.
Tony (PS0V4) [6380] That's right. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6381] What cheque!
Tony (PS0V4) [6382] Yeah.
[6383] I didn't see a cheque!
Jackie (PS0V5) [6384] There wasn't a ch , just a standing order form, that's all we got.
[6385] You know?
Tony (PS0V4) [6386] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6387] [shouting] Cheque number blah blah blah [] written on
Tony (PS0V4) [6388] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6389] It doesn't make any difference, it's just ... you know ... hassle.
Tony (PS0V4) [6390] Yeah. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6391] This skirt is horrible.
[6392] ... I was keeping it for cleaning the car.
[6393] And I'm having to resort to
Tony (PS0V4) [6394] Oh. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6395] [...] some paint splashes [...] .
[6396] ... I'm looking forward to our tour round the chocolate factory next Wednesday.
Tony (PS0V4) [6397] Yeah it'll be nice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6398] Be interesting.
Tony (PS0V4) [6399] Next Wednesday?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6400] Yeah.
[6401] Erm
Tony (PS0V4) [6402] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6403] We'll go out and see Auntie Bettie before then.
[6404] So
Tony (PS0V4) [6405] Mm.
[6406] I'm not in class next Wednesday.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6407] Oh great.
[6408] ... The only fly in the ointment is if it starts at seven, it's going to be a bit of a rush.
[6409] Cos you don't usually get home until ten to six.
Tony (PS0V4) [6410] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6411] And after all the fuss that's been going on in work I don't really like to ask to go early.
Tony (PS0V4) [6412] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6413] If you see what I mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [6414] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6415] But. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6416] I got two Helens in the group.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6417] Oh that's nice.
[6418] Helen, yes yes [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [6419] Luckily they've sat themselves on opposite sides of the room.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6420] Oh that's good.
[6421] So you look at one.
Tony (PS0V4) [6422] Yeah.
[6423] So I can look at one and say Helen?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6424] When they sit together you've got problems.
Tony (PS0V4) [6425] Yeah!
[6426] Fine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6427] Er.

98 (Tape 010811)

Christine (PS0V6) [6428] Mum!
Jackie (PS0V5) [6429] Hello.
Christine (PS0V6) [6430] Can you do my coat for me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6431] Pardon?
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6432] Take everything out the pockets and then
Christine (PS0V6) [6433] Okay
Jackie (PS0V5) [6434] do the buttons and the zip up.
[6435] Will you?
Christine (PS0V6) [6436] Yeah. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6437] Better bring my book up to date.
[6438] I've
Jackie (PS0V5) [6439] See what I mean about that skirt?
Tony (PS0V4) [6440] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6441] It's horrible.

99 (Tape 010812)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6442] Is that beer alright that I bought for you?
Tony (PS0V4) [6443] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6444] Yeah I ... I had a vague recollection of you drinking Newcastle Brown sometime and quite liking it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6445] You certainly did.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6446] [laugh] And I know you quite liked this didn't you? ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6447] Yes ... I did.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6448] So
Tony (PS0V4) [6449] It's quite strong, but
Jackie (PS0V5) [6450] Well.
[6451] ... Well it says strong lager, that's why I bought it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6452] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6453] [laugh] Stop saying yeah ... in that tone of voice.

100 (Tape 010813)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6454] I found in the bottom ... can I talk to you while you're doing that or?
Tony (PS0V4) [6455] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6456] I found in the bottom of the freezer ... some pork ... that I didn't know we had.
Tony (PS0V4) [6457] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6458] Pork loin steak and
Tony (PS0V4) [6459] Mhm
Jackie (PS0V5) [6460] two packets of chicken breasts that I didn't know we had.
[6461] ... So in having a clear out I
Tony (PS0V4) [6462] Oh good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6463] It was quite good ... today.
[6464] ... But I've thrown a few things out, as well.
[6465] That were ... in the freezer and they'd obviously been in there for a bit too long.
Tony (PS0V4) [6466] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6467] So a couple of bits have gone.
Tony (PS0V4) [6468] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6469] Oh that was a disappointment, there's another sweatshirt lurking under there that I didn't see.
Tony (PS0V4) [6470] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6471] Ooh.
Tony (PS0V4) [6472] Gonna have a cup of tea in a minute?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6473] Yeah.
[6474] Whenever it's ready actually cos my back's aching so
Tony (PS0V4) [6475] Okay.
[6476] Well it's made.
[6477] I've only gotta
Jackie (PS0V5) [6478] Well if you go up to
Tony (PS0V4) [6479] pour it out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6480] I'll finish this last sweatshirt and then I'll
Tony (PS0V4) [6481] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6482] have a sit and a cup of tea.
[6483] ... see in a minute something's gonna go in that I swear it is.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6484] I've narrowly missed it about three times already. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6485] Now the problem with them doing a course the worst ... the worst bit is erm ... [sigh] the Wednesday. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6486] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6487] You're not halfway through.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6488] Well, sometime Wednesday you go, you really go through it cos you ... you're not ... you're not halfway through but you're still ... but you've done quite a bit.
[6489] Yeah.
[6490] ... It was Wednesday night last time I did this course I felt really whacked.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6491] Yeah.
[6492] ... And you're gonna feel it this time as well because [...] having that cold.
Tony (PS0V4) [6493] Yeah.
[6494] ... Think erm ... I'm getting er ... oh ... getting better.
[6495] Things don't throw me as much now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6496] No.
[6497] ... Well it will I mean
Tony (PS0V4) [6498] Found out one, one of them used to be a staff trainer.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6499] Used to be?
Tony (PS0V4) [6500] Yeah. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6501] Well used to be's don't count.
Tony (PS0V4) [6502] Well I actually said thank you for that and she dissolved into fits of laughter.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6503] [laugh] Why did she tell you that?
Tony (PS0V4) [6504] So I I've got to avoid ... no that's ... I wondered.
[6505] And she told me then, after that, why she'd laughed. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6506] No.
[6507] Explain it again.
[6508] You've lost me somewhere.
Tony (PS0V4) [6509] I said ... thankyou for that ... at the end of an exercise.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6510] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6511] And she said ... and she di dissolved into fits of laughter.
[6512] And I won , and ... I didn't know why.
[6513] Thanks.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6514] Have you poured out one for Christine [...] ?
Tony (PS0V4) [6515] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6516] Can you bring hers in, or she's gonna create hell [whispering] [...] biscuits [...] .
[6517] She's had bran flakes.
[6518] She [...] [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [6519] Mm.
[6520] And er ... so I said ... she dissolved into fits of laughter so ... after that she explained it by saying well I used to be a trainer and I know how ... I got to avoid the stock phrases.
[6521] ... You alright? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6522] Christine, there aren't enough biscuits for us to have one each.
[6523] You can have a Snack if you want but if you do you won't have one for school tomorrow.
[6524] ... You've had two bowls of cereal, you're not starving are you?
[6525] ... There's some chocolate chip cookies out there if you want some.
Christine (PS0V6) [6526] I'm gonna have [...] ... [...] there are some crumbs in those packets but they're impossible to get out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6527] Oh well.
[6528] Crumbs don't count.
[6529] Don't worry about that.
Christine (PS0V6) [6530] No.
[6531] They'll be ... will they just get washed out?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6532] They'll get washed out, yeah.
[6533] Erm ... do the zip up and tie a bow in those strings.

101 (Tape 010814)

Tony (PS0V4) [6534] Life-sense
Christine (PS0V6) [6535] Oh ow!
Jackie (PS0V5) [6536] What've you done?
Christine (PS0V6) [6537] Ow!
[6538] Ow [crying]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6539] What've you done?
[6540] Let me see.
Christine (PS0V6) [crying]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6541] Christine let me see, what have you done?
Christine (PS0V6) [6542] [shouting] There's nothing there. []
Jackie (PS0V5) [6543] What did you do?
[6544] Bend your nail back?
Christine (PS0V6) [6545] Yeah.
[6546] ... I I could have sworn that they came off my skin.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6547] Feels like it but it's just where it bends back and it pulls it out straight.
[6548] That's why it's ... horrible.
[6549] ... Do you mind eating a bit later on?
Tony (PS0V4) [6550] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6551] I've st still got this sort of [cough] ... this sort of
Christine (PS0V6) [6552] Are there any Rice Crispies mum?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6553] Oh aren't there any out there?
[6554] ... Oh that's it then.
[6555] ... I still got this little housewife feeling that it ought to be ready when you come in the door you know [laughing] [...] [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [6556] Well ... there's a couple of hours of good telly on tonight.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6557] Good. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6558] There's erm ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6559] Will I be able to move the car up ... outside the house a bit later on?
[6560] Did you notice when you came in?
Tony (PS0V4) [6561] I didn't.
[6562] Sorry.
[6563] ... There's Telly Addicts.
[6564] ... And Life-sense? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6565] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6566] Erm ... Rumpole of the Bailey.
[6567] ... Er and there's erm ... just trying to see.
[6568] ... A Mike Hammer film ... st starring Stacey on ... later.

102 (Tape 010815)

Christine (PS0V6) [6569] [...] I said
Tony (PS0V4) [6570] Okay.
Christine (PS0V6) [6571] I don't want [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6572] I'm with you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6573] And I told her and she said I didn't hear anything.
Christine (PS0V6) [6574] It's good that.
Tony (PS0V4) [6575] Mm.
[6576] It's alright. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6577] Christine.
[6578] Do you trust my judgement about your desk?
[6579] ... So if I were to go out tomorrow and see one and it was nice
Christine (PS0V6) [6580] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6581] and I got it, would that suit you?
Christine (PS0V6) [6582] Mm.
[6583] ... Depends if I could have it still tomorrow or not.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6584] Well you can't have it until your bedroom's sorted out and [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [6585] Yeah but once my bedroom's sorted out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6586] Well you've been told you can have your desk and your chair, but you're not gonna have your lamp and ... erm ... some other bits.
[6587] I've got an office supply shop right near me.
[6588] You know I, we were talking
Tony (PS0V4) [6589] Yeah?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6590] about getting her a ... a [...] and that?
Tony (PS0V4) [6591] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6592] Probably get something in there.
Tony (PS0V4) [6593] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [6594] Mummy, turn the television over please.
Tony (PS0V4) [6595] On to one.
[6596] If you don't mind.
Christine (PS0V6) [6597] On to anything ... but that.
[6598] ... I'm gonna do my french sheets.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6599] So I might ask dad to help me put on the roof-rack.
[6600] The roof-rack isn't behind the steps is it?
[6601] It's sort of on top of everything?
Tony (PS0V4) [6602] Can't remember.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6603] No, neither can I.
[6604] ... I'd quite like to record that Watchdog programme.
[6605] In car
Tony (PS0V4) [6606] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6607] safety.
[6608] ... Oh
Tony (PS0V4) [6609] [laugh] ... .
[6610] Little beetle pushing his ... pile of whatever along.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6611] Well you know whatever don't you?
[6612] [laugh] ... It's half past seven that's on.
[6613] In half an hour.
[6614] ... Wogan's going!
Tony (PS0V4) [6615] Yeah I see.
Christine (PS0V6) [6616] [shouting] Yes!
[6617] [] Hip hooray [...] ... Mummy [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6618] So when are [...] gonna get ... they won't get, be able to get Jonathon Woss. ...
Christine (PS0V6) [6619] No way. [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6620] Selina Scott or Ann Diamond or somebody.
Tony (PS0V4) [6621] Yeah.
[6622] ... Do you know when? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6623] Erm ... no.
[6624] It's just, they just announced this morning that he's, and he's asked to go.
Tony (PS0V4) [6625] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6626] It's not that he's being kicked out. ...
Christine (PS0V6) [6627] My pencil case is breaking.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6628] I know.
[6629] It's only the lining though.
Christine (PS0V6) [6630] I really liked that ... that one.
[6631] And that one's great.

103 (Tape 010816)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6632] I'll see this little bit then I'll go and finish that ironing and ... would you record er Watchdog for me?
Tony (PS0V4) [6633] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6634] On car safety [...]

104 (Tape 010817)

Tony (PS0V4) [6635] Do you wanna make a cup of tea?
[6636] ... If we're eating later ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6637] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6638] Have we got any crisps? ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [6639] [...] not a lot in there.
[6640] I was gonna get some more tomorrow.
Christine (PS0V6) [6641] When am I gonna have my tea?
Jackie (PS0V5) [6642] Erm
Tony (PS0V4) [6643] I can get your tea in a minute.
Christine (PS0V6) [6644] No no I don't mind.

105 (Tape 010818)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6645] [laughing] Ha ha ... I just ... she just said to me you any good at German [] .
[6646] I looked at it an I said that's French.
[6647] And she said I know but are you any good at German.
Tony (PS0V4) [6648] Sorry.
[6649] I'll erm ... get some kitchen roll.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6650] Put tissue over it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6651] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6652] What's this gonna sound like on that tape. [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [6653] I know what I'm getting [...] .
[6654] I know what I'm getting [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [6655] [...] no look.
[6656] Don't break them.
Christine (PS0V6) [6657] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [6658] Oh don't do that.
[6659] ... Right.
[6660] ... I don't mind.
[6661] I don't mind.
[6662] You choose. ...
Christine (PS0V6) [6663] Ooh.
Tony (PS0V4) [6664] Alright?
[6665] Ah.
[6666] ... Is she a shepherd or just an old crook? [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [6667] Can I have a crisp
Tony (PS0V4) [6668] Oh dear.

106 (Tape 010819)

Jackie (PS0V5) [6669] I must admit I like to see that, because ... so many people, if a dog had to lose a leg they'd say put it to sleep, put it to sleep.
Tony (PS0V4) [6670] Mm.
[6671] ... Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [6672] And ... why?
[6673] ... If you lost a leg they'd stick a false one on you or give you a set of wheels.
Tony (PS0V4) [6674] Mm.
[6675] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6676] So why kill it why kill a dog because it's gonna lose a leg.
Tony (PS0V4) [6677] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6678] It's got ... well you've only got two.
[6679] You lose yours, one of yours and it's a disaster.
Tony (PS0V4) [6680] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6681] If a dog loses one, well it's still got three to get on with, you know?
Christine (PS0V6) [6682] Yeah. [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6683] It's hardly a handicap at all to a dog.
Christine (PS0V6) [6684] It's happened to one dog and he learned to walk like a human [...] [crisp packets rattling]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6685] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [6686] He walked like a human.
[6687] [...] . And he spun right round and he [...] like that.
[6688] And they said get up.
[6689] And he rolls over and then he sort of put his legs up.
[6690] I can't remember ... no he sort of I can't do it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6691] But to lose a leg for a dog is hardly a handicap at all.
Tony (PS0V4) [6692] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [6693] Cos they've got three others.
[6694] They just lose their balance occasionally.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6695] Well that's why a dog that limps slightly ... very often there's practically nothing wrong with it.
Tony (PS0V4) [6696] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6697] If it thinks it's gonna hurt it will limp.
Tony (PS0V4) [6698] [laugh] Yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [6699] Whereas people, if you've got a painful leg you've got to walk on it.
[6700] Whereas a dog might have a slightly painful leg and it will limp like hell.
Tony (PS0V4) [6701] Mm.
[6702] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [6703] Cos it doesn't have to use it. [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [6704] Oh no we've got some really hard numbers [...] ... [...] french if I had a dictionary I could look it up but I haven't.

107 (Tape 010901)

Tony (PS0V4) [6705] Right.
[6706] ... Who can claim income support?
Rene (PS0V7) [6707] Er ... to be over eighteen is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [6708] Erm ... some people under eighteen can claim.
[6709] Who are the main ... area of people that we deal with?
[6710] ... A generalization for most of the people we see coming in?
Rene (PS0V7) [6711] Most people.
Margaret (PS0VC) [6712] Unemployed.
Tony (PS0V4) [6713] Unemployed.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6714] Unemployed.
Tony (PS0V4) [6715] Yeah.
[6716] ... So people who are unemployed ... can claim income support.
[6717] ... Any other people apart from people who are unemployed that can claim income support?
Mum (PS0V8) [6718] Those on low incomes?
Tony (PS0V4) [6719] Low income, yes.
[6720] ... Anyone else?
Mum (PS0V8) [6721] Training courses.
Tony (PS0V4) [6722] Training courses.
Mum (PS0V8) [6723] You know?
[6724] Like U T and
Tony (PS0V4) [6725] Right.
[6726] They're actually paid a training allowance, which is related to income support.
[6727] ... But it isn't their income support.
Mum (PS0V8) [6728] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6729] So anything ... anyone else who might receive ... income support?
Rene (PS0V7) [6730] Old age pensioners.
Tony (PS0V4) [6731] Pensioners.
[6732] Yes.
[6733] ... Anyone else?
Vicky (PS0V9) [6734] If you're disabled?
Tony (PS0V4) [6735] Erm ... yes but they normally receive their erm
Vicky (PS0V9) [6736] Disability allowance.
Tony (PS0V4) [6737] their own benefits.
[6738] Yes related to disability.
[6739] But yes they can if they don't receive enough from other means.
[6740] Yeah.
Margaret (PS0VC) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6741] Yes.
Rene (PS0V7) [6742] It's what the government
Dot (PS0VA) [6743] Think I heard that one [...] ... That's quite an old one [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6744] There's
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6745] No it's alright.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6746] There's erm ... there's one other erm ... group of people that might be able to claim
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [6747] One parent families.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6748] Yeah.
[6749] Single parents.
[6750] That's another very common one.
[6751] ... Yep.
[6752] Single parents.
[6753] ... Right.
[6754] So what factors decide what you get under income, income support? ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6755] Your income I suppose. [...] ?
Tony (PS0V4) [6756] Erm ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [6757] [...] means tested.
Tony (PS0V4) [6758] Yeah, yeah.
[6759] So looking at somebody's needs ... and what are the sort of things they're likely to take into account?
Rene (PS0V7) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6760] Yeah
Vicky (PS0V9) [6761] How many there are in the family.
Tony (PS0V4) [6762] Income.
[6763] ... Er ... how many in the family?
[6764] Yes.
[6765] Number of dep
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6766] Number of children.
Tony (PS0V4) [6767] Number of children. ...
Mum (PS0V8) [6768] Is that opposed to the number of adults ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6769] Erm
Mum (PS0V8) [6770] [...] as well as.
Tony (PS0V4) [6771] As well as.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Margaret (PS0VC) [6772] Financial commitments.
Tony (PS0V4) [6773] Financial commitments.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6774] Mortgage [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6775] Housing
Tony (PS0V4) [6776] Yes.
[6777] Mortgage will ... They will help with the mortgage.
[6778] What happens about rent?
Dot (PS0VA) [6779] Get some housing benefit.
Tony (PS0V4) [6780] Yeah.
[6781] They can claim housing benefit.
[6782] That isn't income support, that's another benefit that they claim from the Local Authority.
[6783] ... So if they're in rented accommodation then they will need to make a claim to a Local Authority for that.
[6784] What other things might D S S take into account?
Rene (PS0V7) [6785] Poll tax.
Dot (PS0VA) [6786] Savings.
Tony (PS0V4) [6787] Er ... savings.
[6788] ... You mentioned poll tax.
[6789] Erm another, another thing you can claim is relief from paying poll tax.
[6790] So it's not directly linked with income support.
[6791] You claim relief from the people who collect poll tax.
[6792] But the fact you are claiming income support is a factor that they look at.
[6793] So if you were ... in receipt of income support then you don't have to pay very much.
Rene (PS0V7) [6794] So who are these people then that you ... get relief from if you want help with your poll tax?
Tony (PS0V4) [6795] Right.
[6796] You would claim that from your Local Authority.
[6797] In the same way as housing benefit.
Rene (PS0V7) [6798] You've got housing benefit forms [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6799] Yeah.
[6800] Yeah.
[6801] Okay?
[6802] Savings.
[6803] Erm ... something else that would relate to number of children, adults is also the age.
[6804] The ages of the people in the house.
Mum (PS0V8) [6805] What, just of the children, or of the adults as well?
Tony (PS0V4) [6806] Well ... once they're over eighteen age is immaterial.
Mum (PS0V8) [6807] Oh.
[6808] Right.
Tony (PS0V4) [6809] But erm there, there are a couple of different rates at which er income support is claimed depending on how old the child is.
Mum (PS0V8) [6810] Oh really?
Tony (PS0V4) [6811] Yeah.
Dot (PS0VA) [6812] What about the other er end of the scale?
[6813] Somebody over sixty five or seventy five or eighty [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6814] Right.
[6815] As I understand it there's no no banding at that end.
Dot (PS0VA) [6816] That's strange isn't it?
[6817] Because there's a lot of erm pensions that are triggered off by the age of the elderly person.
Tony (PS0V4) [6818] Mm.
Margaret (PS0VC) [6819] Of course there, there are things, I mean there is the pension.
[6820] There is also attendance allowance and there are various things like that which are ... outside this.
Tony (PS0V4) [6821] Mm.
[6822] Yeah.
[6823] But they will take into account any special help that is needed for somebody who's disabled.
Dot (PS0VA) [6824] Washing.
[6825] Extra, extra money for wa if they've got lots of washing to do. [...] ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6826] So you can get special help if somebody's disabled.
[6827] Oh you're right.
[6828] There's a pension [...] as well.
Dot (PS0VA) [6829] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6830] Yes.
[6831] Yes.
[6832] Sorry.
Dot (PS0VA) [6833] That's alright.
Tony (PS0V4) [6834] Right.
[6835] So.
[6836] Let's have a look ... has any , has anyone not seen erm B one?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6837] No I haven't.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6838] I'm not really [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6839] Right.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6840] Well ... I've only seen the back of it.
[6841] I've never looked right through it.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [6842] So how, how many do we need?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6843] All, all [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6844] [...] You have a look between the two [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6845] You've been reading B one's all week.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6846] Have I?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6847] You've been reading B one's for weeks haven't you?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6848] Right.
[6849] Your rate of allowances aren't there because they go out of date so fast so I've got an extra, you can have one of these each ... with the rate of allowances.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6850] Thanks. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6851] And there's also ... you may or may not have ... the erm form which you claim relief for community charge and housing benefit ... inside the form.
Rene (PS0V7) [6852] You have to have another one if you're in cou , if you're not in council accommodation from the l ... which we issue as well. [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Rene (PS0V7) [6853] [...] .
[6854] You get so much stuff from the N C A's who do that.
[6855] The N C A's who do [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6856] Right.
[6857] So ... can I wipe this side off. ...
Mum (PS0V8) [6858] Ooh.
[6859] That's not fair is it?
[6860] If you're eighteen to twenty four years old and you're bringing up a child on your own.
[6861] ... You get the same as twenty five years and older.
Tony (PS0V4) [6862] Right.
[6863] So if we look at a ... a typical family.
[6864] We have ... wife and husband both over eighteen.
[6865] ... Both over eighteen.
[6866] How much would they get?
Mum (PS0V8) [6867] Sixty two twenty five?
Tony (PS0V4) [6868] That's it.
[6869] Sixty two pounds twenty five.
[6870] Okay?
[6871] Now if they had a child who's four years old, how much would they get?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6872] Thirteen thirty five.
Tony (PS0V4) [6873] Thirteen thirty five.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6874] For each child.
Tony (PS0V4) [6875] Okay?
[6876] And then another child who is ... sixteen.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6877] Right.
[6878] That's right.
[6879] So.
[6880] What about if they're fourteen?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6881] Nineteen seventy five.
Tony (PS0V4) [6882] Nineteen seventy five.
[6883] There you go.
[6884] ... And in addition to that there is a premium because they are a family.
[6885] And the premium because they have at least one child is seven pounds ninety nine, ninety five. ...
Martin (PS0VB) [6886] So ev even if you had six children, you'd still allowed, still only get seven ninety five?
Tony (PS0V4) [6887] That's right.
[6888] In addition to the ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6889] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [6890] Yeah, yeah.
[6891] Okay?
Rene (PS0V7) [6892] I doubt if you'd have six children under four would you?
Martin (PS0VB) [6893] You could have I suppose [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [6894] Oh well [...] .
[6895] Going back to what Jerry said you'd [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6896] So.
[6897] You've got a total income coming in, er a total amount of benefit there of a hundred and three pounds thirty ... for this family.
[6898] ... Okay?
[6899] Now ... they will also be entitled to child benefit.
[6900] Okay?
[6901] So child benefit ... for two children it's ninety twenty five for the first.
[6902] Seven twenty five for the second.
[6903] ... So that sixteen pounds fifty.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Martin (PS0VB) [6904] What are those rates again?
[6905] Nine twenty five first, and seven ... twenty five [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6906] It's not
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6907] Ah.
[6908] Sneaky peaky eh?
Tony (PS0V4) [6909] So the, for the oldest child it's nine pounds twenty five.
[6910] Sorry it's not on there.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6911] No [...]
Martin (PS0VB) [6912] What is it?
[6913] Ten pounds twenty five?
Tony (PS0V4) [6914] Nine twenty five for the first child.
[6915] ... And then seven pounds twenty five for ... subsequent children.
[6916] Making sixteen pounds fifty in total.
[6917] ... This would then be treated as income by D S S and so this amount would be reduced by sixteen pounds fifty. ...
Rene (PS0V7) [6918] That's a con innit?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6919] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [6920] I make that eighty six eighty?
[6921] Yeah?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6922] Mm. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [6923] Now that's an idea to how they do it.
[6924] Don't try to counsel somebody and tell them how much income support they're going to get.
[6925] Because that's very very basic.
[6926] There are lots and lots of other things the D S S can take into account.
Rene (PS0V7) [6927] Leave it to the Citizen's Advice Bureau.
Tony (PS0V4) [6928] Yeah.
[6929] Leave it to the Citizen's Advice Bureau or the D S S.
Rene (PS0V7) [6930] I feel sorry for the D S S cos the Citizen's Advice Bureau [...] to make sure that the people get all they're entitled to [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6931] Mm
Rene (PS0V7) [6932] The Citizen's Advice Bureau has got a pro forma which if a person goes in and says ... I think I ought to be getting, I think I, I don't think I'm getting sufficient income support or I'm going to apply for income support.
[6933] What should I get?
[6934] And they go through and tell them what they should get.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6935] Mm?
Rene (PS0V7) [6936] Which I would find very trying if I was in the D S S quite honestly.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6937] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [6938] Right.
[6939] Now ... so having issued B one, where's it got to go?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6940] The D S S.
Tony (PS0V4) [6941] Right.
[6942] So it goes to the D S S.
[6943] Which one?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6944] The one nearest [...] .
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6945] The one in the area which in they live.
Tony (PS0V4) [6946] So it it's not specifically related to the benefit office where they're signing.
[6947] It's based on where they live.
[6948] ... And so you might find that some offices have to think of two or three ... D S S offices and refer various people to the, to various ones.
[6949] Depending on where they live.
[6950] Okay?
[6951] Now when you had that bundle of handouts that are all stapled together [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6952] There was ... a list of the D S S offices ... together with guidance on their address.
[6953] Now if I can check that you've all got that.
[6954] I you haven't, I've got a list here that I can let you have.
[6955] ... It looks like that.
[6956] ... [...] and then if you come across it later. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Margaret (PS0VC) [6957] I was just wondering that.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Margaret (PS0VC) [6958] Or is it ... it is in fact North Radstock isn't it?
[6959] [...] . The actual town is North Radstock.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6960] Okay.
[6961] Any question so far?
Rene (PS0V7) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6962] Okay?
[6963] Right so when do you issue a B one?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6964] At fresh claims.
[6965] Change of circumstances.
Rene (PS0V7) [6966] Fresh claims. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6967] Fresh claims.
[6968] ... Er what do you mean by change of circumstances?
Rene (PS0V7) [6969] If they change their address or something or they live with somebody else or they ... move out from somewhere [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [6970] Yeah.
[6971] Erm ... change of ... let's say person's circumstances.
[6972] It might be limiting with a change of address it might not.
[6973] Yeah?
[6974] Any
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [6975] Also when they run out of U B.
Tony (PS0V4) [6976] When they run out of U B.
[6977] ... Yes.
[6978] Any other times when you might issue one?
[6979] ... Erm ... situation where you have somebody ... who has left their job.
[6980] Wasn't clear at the time what the circumstances were.
[6981] You may find when you have the reply back from the employer that you have to suspend unemployment benefit.
[6982] In that instance you could issue a B one so that he would have some money coming in.
[6983] So ... if unemployment benefit is suspended ... and erm another circumstance which might arise is somebody ... expects to receive unemployment benefit and then finds that they're not entitled to it.
[6984] Because of contribution problems.
Rene (PS0V7) [6985] If in doubt
Tony (PS0V4) [6986] Yes.
Rene (PS0V7) [6987] always give a B one in my opinion.
Tony (PS0V4) [6988] Yes.
[6989] That's right.
[6990] They may ... the only thing is they may not wish to take one.
[6991] You don't have to, you don't have to claim.
[6992] And they may say no no I don't want to claim.
[6993] In which case that's fair enough.
[6994] But at some future time they may decide they want to.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [6995] If a person refuses U B.
[6996] They should take ... you should issue them with a leaflet
Tony (PS0V4) [6997] Sorry?
[6998] Refuses U B?
Rene (PS0V7) [6999] Issues ... refuses I S
Tony (PS0V4) [7000] Mhm
Rene (PS0V7) [7001] You should issue them with the basic leaflet telling them about I S.
Tony (PS0V4) [7002] Mhm.
Rene (PS0V7) [7003] So that they're aware of what they've refused.
Tony (PS0V4) [7004] That's a very good ... er very good precaution to take, yes.
[7005] ... Very good idea.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7006] I don't normally.
[7007] But ... you can do [...] .
[7008] Well yes you can but ... if anyone refuses U B er I S rather I always give them a leaflet.
[7009] [...] so that you are sure I'm not conning you.
Tony (PS0V4) [7010] So before we issue ... before we hand over the B one what do we do?
Rene (PS0V7) [7011] Fill in the back.
Tony (PS0V4) [7012] We fill in the back.
[7013] Yes?
[7014] [...] . ... We'll be giving you some exercises later about filling in the back.
[7015] ... Erm
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7016] Who would do this then.
[7017] I mean it wouldn't just be ... anyone could do this, fill out the back it doesn't have to be an E O does it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7018] No, no it doesn't have to be an E O.
[7019] Right.
[7020] Erm the only thing is ... what does happen occasionally is somebody comes from the D S S offices and they've been told, I need a B one.
[7021] What they haven't been told is that you actually have to make a claim for benefit.
[7022] And have to sign on every fortnight.
Rene (PS0V7) [7023] [...] every day .
[7024] It happens every day.
[7025] Every day.
Tony (PS0V4) [7026] And ... yes.
[7027] And, and so then they, they're a bit miffed that instead of the B one they're being asked to complete a U B four six one, a U B six seven one.
[7028] They then have to come to an appointment and be interviewed.
[7029] Whereas in actual fact I don't want all this, I want is a B one.
[7030] But they have to make a claim before you can issue a B one.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7031] And the D S S can't issue B ones unless they've gone through all the procedure.
Tony (PS0V4) [7032] That's right.
[7033] In fact D S S don't issue B ones.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7034] We, we have to issue B ones.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7035] Because they have new people on the counter and it's it's
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7036] Good question.
Rene (PS0V7) [7037] It happens every single day [...] .
[7038] Go down and get a B one [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7039] How long does it take for income support to come through?
[7040] Once a claim has been made.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7041] According to the managers five and a half days in this area.
Tony (PS0V4) [7042] How long is a piece of string?
[7043] Five and a half days?
Rene (PS0V7) [7044] They can get it immediately.
[7045] ... [...] get it immediately [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7046] That's what I was quoted last week.
Tony (PS0V4) [7047] Right.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7048] When I asked the self-same question.
[7049] He said five and a half days.
[7050] ... He hasn't [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [7051] The last time
Tony (PS0V4) [7052] I, I would I would have thought it could have, could take, it could easily take ten days.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7053] Yeah Two weeks.
Margaret (PS0VC) [7054] Two weeks.
Rene (PS0V7) [7055] When they had problems not so long ago it was taking a month.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7056] Yeah.
[7057] I heard it was six weeks.
Rene (PS0V7) [7058] A month, six weeks.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7059] Well they have targets like we all have and one of their targets is how quickly they can turn around the claimant's money.
Tony (PS0V4) [7060] Mm. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7061] What does a ... claimant do then they've got no money then for six weeks if it takes six weeks.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7062] Come and bang on our door for six weeks.
Rene (PS0V7) [7063] They get, I think they can [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7064] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [7065] They can get a crisis loan.
[7066] They don't, they can also get paid early direct by the D S S.
[7067] D S S will actually pay them rather than telling us to pay them.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7068] But is it up to them to actually go to D S S and say I want a payment now?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7069] That's right.
[7070] So if you get someone in that situation who's saying I'm desperate for money, I'm claiming income support, I've heard nothing ... and you haven't been told how much they're entitled to.
[7071] Then they can actually go to the D S S office and say that they need some money urgently and D S S may make a payment.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7072] But may but not nec
Rene (PS0V7) [7073] May
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7074] May not.
Tony (PS0V4) [7075] Yeah.
[7076] It depends on the circumstances and you're not, you're not in a position to say ... what D S S will or won't do.
[7077] So you can only say they may make a payment.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7078] [...] under er ... I think they would do under most circumstances.
[7079] It would only be if they suspected that something ... odd was going on.
[7080] ... Okay and how do D S S tell us how much to pay ... income support?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7081] [...] B two.
Tony (PS0V4) [7082] Yep.
[7083] [...] B two.
[7084] Right.
[7085] Before I ask you to complete B one there's one more thing we need to talk about.
[7086] ... And that is about what happens when someone leaves a job of their own accord.
[7087] ... So what happens when someone leaves a job of their own accord, what happens to their unemployment benefit.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7088] Suspended.
Rene (PS0V7) [7089] Suspended pending enquiries.
Tony (PS0V4) [7090] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7091] But not, it's suspended, it's suspended but it's not disallowed.
Tony (PS0V4) [7092] That's right.
[7093] ... So what, what's the difference?
Rene (PS0V7) [7094] Well it's suspended pending enquiries so it's in suspension.
[7095] They, we're looking into the reasons.
[7096] And if erm ... they don't like the outcome of our deliberations they have a right of appeal.
Tony (PS0V4) [7097] Right.
[7098] But when, when the adjudication officer has made a decision ... he will then allow or disallow.
[7099] So that that's the ... so at first the claim is suspended.
[7100] And then when you have a decision from the adjudication officer it is then allowed or disallowed.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7101] And then they can appeal.
Tony (PS0V4) [7102] And then they can appeal.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7103] If they wish.
Tony (PS0V4) [7104] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7105] It used to be six months didn't it, and now it's gone up to
Tony (PS0V4) [7106] That's right, yes.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7107] Big jump isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7108] Well.
[7109] It went up in stages.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7110] Oh did it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7111] It went to thirteen weeks and then it went to twenty six weeks.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7112] Did it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7113] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7114] As a deterrent.
[7115] Which it never has had any effect on ... at all.
[7116] That was the reason behind it.
[7117] It was a, a deterrent to people giving up their jobs but nobody knew about it.
[7118] People don't know about it now.
Margaret (PS0VC) [7119] So if they immediately fall back on IS, I mean it
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7120] Yeah that's just what I was going to say.
[7121] What happens then, to income support?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7122] Paid at a reduced rate.
Tony (PS0V4) [7123] It's paid at a reduced rate ... for the period of the suspension.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7124] I thought if it's disqualifying, if you were disqualified then ... income support pays normal [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7125] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [7126] Sorry it's, it's, if it's allowed they would have a reason ... income support to pay.
[7127] If it's disallowed ... then erm they would have their entitlement in that they would be paid a reduced rate during the period of the susp , er of the disallowance.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7128] And would they still get the income support after that but still at a reduced rate or not?
Tony (PS0V4) [7129] Right.
[7130] Once we're out of the twenty six week period it would go back to its normal rate.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7131] I think we're talking about ... once the suspension was over
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7132] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7133] and the adj the A O has made the decision.
[7134] [...] disallowed
Tony (PS0V4) [7135] Mhm.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7136] they'd carry on getting the reduced rate prior to the period of disallowance.
Tony (PS0V4) [7137] That's right yes.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7138] They'd still get paid then?
Tony (PS0V4) [7139] Yes, but at a reduced [...] [cough] reduced rate.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7140] What is the reduced rate.
Tony (PS0V4) [7141] I'm sorry.
[7142] I'll go on to talk about that [...] .
Rene (PS0V7) [7143] Is there a handout on this because
Tony (PS0V4) [7144] Right.
[7145] I've got a handout on the reduced rate, yes.
[7146] And I'm gonna be giving you a handout which gives you information about how to calculate it.
Rene (PS0V7) [7147] I never tell people getting a reduced rate [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7148] Well no because they just go bananas if you do.
[7149] You've got to be careful.
Tony (PS0V4) [7150] What, what do we call that ... reduction, deduction?
Rene (PS0V7) [7151] U D
Tony (PS0V4) [7152] Right.
[7153] [...] Yep.
[7154] [...] I don't know if you've heard that term at all around.
[7155] What does it stand for?
Margaret (PS0VC) [7156] The [...] deduction.
Tony (PS0V4) [7157] Yep.
[7158] [...] ... oh.
[7159] Let's try that again.
[7160] [laugh] ... Unemployed ... deduction.
[7161] ... Okay?
[7162] ... Details of any reductions that have been made are held in enquiry screen four.
[7163] ... The reduction is made on the personal rate available.
[7164] So in this instance it would be made on half, if, if the husband had left his job of his own accord ... it would be made on half of that amount. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7165] Surely that's ... for his wife as well so she [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7166] No
Tony (PS0V4) [7167] No no no.
[7168] No that's why it would only be ... it would be made ... your deduction would be made on half of that amount.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7169] Oh I see.
Tony (PS0V4) [7170] No, no.
[7171] The deduction is based on
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7172] The deduction isn't half that amount
Tony (PS0V4) [7173] No.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7174] it's made on half that amount.
Tony (PS0V4) [7175] It's, yeah.
[7176] And it is forty percent of that.
Rene (PS0V7) [7177] Made on the [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7178] So
Rene (PS0V7) [7179] So can you give us [...] on that.
Tony (PS0V4) [7180] Yes.
Rene (PS0V7) [7181] You've got
Tony (PS0V4) [7182] I'm just trying to [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7183] The man's would be sixteen erm
Tony (PS0V4) [7184] Thirty one
Rene (PS0V7) [7185] thirty one pounds whatever on the twelve.
[7186] [...] thirty p.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7187] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7188] So it, it's forty percent of thirty two pounds.
[7189] ... Yes?
Tony (PS0V4) [7190] Yep.
[7191] That's right. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7192] Reduction then on the personal ... sorry, can you repeat what you said about ... the reduction is made, made on the personal
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7193] Yes.
[7194] It's made on the amount that that person, that individual is receiving in income support.
[7195] It's not on the whole family.
Rene (PS0V7) [7196] [...] family should be penalized.
Tony (PS0V4) [7197] Yeah.
[7198] Just the the individual ... and that one portion of the income support is reduced by forty percent.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7199] So ... what's forty percent of thirty one pound twenty five.
[7200] Erm ... erm [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7201] Yeah.
[7202] It's about twelve pounds a week. ...
Rene (PS0V7) [7203] What happens if you, if you're not on that rate [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7204] What if you're a single person only getting thirty nine something?
Rene (PS0V7) [7205] Then you [...] doesn't need much does he.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7206] But do you get the reduced rate, is it reduced forty percent for all sort of categories whether you're married, single?
Tony (PS0V4) [7207] Yes, yes.
Rene (PS0V7) [7208] I thought there were exceptions if the person was pregnant or something.
[7209] If there's a pregnant person in the house.
Tony (PS0V4) [7210] Yes.
[7211] There are exceptions.
[7212] So that the ... majority of people will be subject to a ... forty percent deduction ... on their personal benefit ... and their personal rate.
[7213] Okay? ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7214] That's irrespective whether they're married or single?
Tony (PS0V4) [7215] That's right.
[7216] Erm ... the deduction will only made, be made ... if a suspension is held on our computer.
[7217] ... So if somebody forgets to put the suspension on
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Rene (PS0V7) [7218] It's not actually cos it causes real problems [...] .
[7219] ... In other words it can take [...] doing that person no good service ... like if there's any doubt [...] suspending it immediately.
[7220] They can always get the arrears.
[7221] And they get very uptight if they get erm ... too much and then it's reduced rather than the other way round.
Tony (PS0V4) [7222] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7223] Can I [...] ask [...] ?
Tony (PS0V4) [7224] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7225] [...] queries at the end.
Tony (PS0V4) [7226] No.
[7227] No that's fine.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7228] I'm still a bit confused about erm ... sorry I should have brought this up at the time.
Tony (PS0V4) [7229] It's alright.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7230] Claims suspended for twenty six weeks by our good selves
Tony (PS0V4) [7231] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7232] therefore if they apply for income support
Tony (PS0V4) [7233] Mhm
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7234] that is also reduced by forty percent.
Tony (PS0V4) [7235] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7236] Right.
[7237] What if they're unemployment benefit was disqualified?
[7238] The adjudication officer, we suspend it, the adjudication officer says ... right, they're not supposed to have it.
[7239] What happens to their income support, do they still continue to receive it at a reduced rate?
Tony (PS0V4) [7240] That's right.
[7241] For the period of the disallowance.
[7242] ... And it would then revert back to full rate. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7243] And the disallowance can be
Rene (PS0V7) [7244] Up to twenty six weeks.
Tony (PS0V4) [7245] Yeah. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7246] [...] thank you.
Tony (PS0V4) [7247] Okay?
[7248] Right.
[7249] Erm ... the ... some people can actually have a reduction made of twenty percent instead.
[7250] ... If, in this family the wife was expecting a baby ... then ... then it would be a twenty percent deduction.
[7251] ... Also if one or other of the partners, well it would have to be the partner that wasn't signing ... was seriously ill ... then the reduct deduction would be twenty percent.
[7252] ... Providing [laugh] there's a condition attached, that they have savings of less than two hundred pounds. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7253] What if the claimant should become seriously ill?
Rene (PS0V7) [7254] [...] sick.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7255] Sick [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7256] Do they get a reduced rate ... on the sickness benefit?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7257] No
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7258] No ... They get more on sickness benefit than they do on
Rene (PS0V7) [7259] And another thing [...] if you're living with somebody ... and, and you're both unemployed.
[7260] If the person that's got the sack doesn't make the claim but the other person claims then it doesn't affect them either.
[7261] ... If you see what I mean.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7262] Oh I see ... so er ... you're assuming then that the person that was claiming ... isn't working?
Rene (PS0V7) [7263] Wasn't, wasn't.
[7264] Isn't working but hasn't had the sack.
[7265] Perhaps they've been made redundant.
[7266] Perhaps their partner's had the sack.
[7267] If the [...] person ... that has had, been made redundant to make the claim, can claim for the other person and there's no red
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7268] [...] dependent, yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7269] Yeah so there's no reduction on that.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...] ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7270] [...] suspension [...] for three hundred and twelve days.
[7271] [...] very often find knowing that they've left voluntarily to have babies and have decided not to go back to the job although the job's been kept open for them.
[7272] They're disallowed for six months and then coming and [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7273] Right.
[7274] I hope this doesn't cause you a problem, but the rates of benefit have changed ... very slightly since the first of October ninety one.
[7275] And the handout I've got here which I couldn't tie in just now when I was trying to do the deduction is because the rates are very slightly different.
[7276] It's about thirty pence or so more.
[7277] Than actually what we were talking about.
[7278] So I'm sorry about that.
[7279] I'll get the other one updated.
[7280] Erm but what you've got now ... if you, can I pass those round and I'll explain what that says. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7281] Is this one the same as we've got in that erm wad again?
Tony (PS0V4) [7282] Oh you had one in the wad did you?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7283] Yes I had one, yeah [...] else did but I
Rene (PS0V7) [7284] In the one that we shouldn't have had which we did have. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7285] [laugh] Oh it's been a good week.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7286] Right.
[7287] If you'd have a look at that.
[7288] ... The appendix age twenty ... the [...] category which you can see there, nought to four.
[7289] That tells you the amount of income support which the deduc er for which the deduction is appropriate.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7290] Hang on a minute.
[7291] ... Are we looking at [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7292] No, we're looking at page two, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7293] Right.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Rene (PS0V7) [7294] I've got April ninety one here.
Tony (PS0V4) [7295] Right ... some are April, some of October and they're all mixed up.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7296] I'm April
Tony (PS0V4) [7297] Wonderful.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7298] I'm October.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7299] Okay, October ... you want, you want, anyone else need [...] October [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7300] Yes please [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7301] And if you please destroy the other one. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7302] Yeah, that's the latest one.
[7303] ... Right ... Okay have a look at that.
[7304] The B U category ... nought to four.
[7305] That shows the amount ... of weekly rate to which the [...] can be applied.
[7306] So that shows how much we're gonna apply our deduction to.
[7307] Okay?
[7308] And we can see the rates for which the deduction is going to be applied ... the other side.
[7309] So erm a single under eighteen or couple both under eighteen twenty three pound ninety.
[7310] That re , that should relate to the allowances you had before.
Rene (PS0V7) [7311] And that's ... so that's twelve fifty five if it's ...
Tony (PS0V4) [7312] So if a forty percent deduction is made on category two, then somebody receiving thirty one pounds forty a week ... would actually, it would actually be reduced by twelve pounds fifty five.
[7313] ... Do you see how that works?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7314] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7315] No sorry.
[7316] I've lose where that twelve fifty five comes from.
Tony (PS0V4) [7317] Right.
[7318] If you look at category two.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7319] What here?
Tony (PS0V4) [7320] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7321] Yeah right.
Tony (PS0V4) [7322] They're in receipt of thirty one pounds forty?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7323] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7324] So if you look at category two down below.
[7325] Forty percent deduction applied for a full week.
[7326] Twelve pound fifty five.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7327] Oh right, twelve fifty five yeah.
[7328] Mhm.
[7329] Yeah okay.
Tony (PS0V4) [7330] Okay?
[7331] So the B U category shows the amount of income support that er is being, that the deduction is being based on.
[7332] And then the B U indicator ... indicates whether it's rate one or rate two and indicates whether it's a twenty percent or forty percent deduction.
[7333] ... Now right at the beginning of a claim you can have an odd number of days before the first benefit week ending day.
[7334] There will also be an indicator on the B two to say how those days should be treated.
[7335] ... There will be a number which will be the number, should be the number of days before the benefit week ending day in the first week of the claim.
[7336] ... Right.
[7337] Any questions on that? ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7338] Well only one and that is
Tony (PS0V4) [7339] Mhm?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7340] you've given us this information.
Tony (PS0V4) [7341] Right.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7342] But [...] don't tell them ... what they're likely to receive.
Tony (PS0V4) [7343] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7344] So the information that is given us is for our information only, or?
Tony (PS0V4) [7345] Right.
[7346] You can go so far as to say that ... I mean, you will be safe in saying that if your, that as your benefit is suspended ... your income support for you, not for your family but for you, will be reduced.
[7347] It will probably be reduced by forty percent.
[7348] .. Yeah?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7349] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7350] But if you, if you look at a B two ... it makes sense, I mean I've looked at B two's and I haven't really understood what the one's two's and three's are for but now it makes sense to me so people who are [...] B two [...] makes more sense to them to know what [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7351] Yeah.
[7352] We'll be having a look at some B two's and we'll pick up this bit about [...] and er the coding when you have a look at that.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7353] It's knowing how much information you can supply and how much you keep out isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7354] Yes.
[7355] Yes that's right.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7356] You know.
[7357] Cos what we give to the client [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7358] Okay?
[7359] Right.
[7360] So ... I've now got a handout for you ... and it'll be up to date about how to complete a B one. ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7361] Yeah, anybody else want to stretch their legs a second?
[7362] No, Okay?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [...] ...
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7363] [...] handouts.
[7364] Some of them are quite hard to read. [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7365] Yes this, this one, this new one [...] ought to get it retyped.
Rene (PS0V7) [7366] It's quite an important one really.
Tony (PS0V4) [7367] Mm, yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7368] I'm using it all the time. ...
Tony (PS0V4) [7369] I've got better copies of the blank B one, but the handout is getting rather ... Right so if we're looking at, we'll complete the B one.
[7370] ... Note the reverse of the U B A T B that we're issuing ... and pass it to the client with an envelope to send to the right D S S office.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7371] Sorry which is the A T B?
[7372] I can't remember, is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7373] That's, that's the one er the shopping list.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7374] Oh the shopping list, yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7375] I hate to tell you the D S S are on an economy campaign and they no longer issue envelopes.
Tony (PS0V4) [7376] They no longer issue envelopes.
Rene (PS0V7) [7377] At least they don't in Bath and you have to write the address on the front.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7378] Oh they don't [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7379] They don't do here either.
Rene (PS0V7) [7380] And then if it's in another area ... which invariably is if you've got to give them [...] somewhere like Trowbridge or sometimes erm [...] in Bath or Chippenham You then have to ring up D S S to find the address.
Tony (PS0V4) [7381] Well hopefully all this will give you the address although it depends how far away it is. [...] contact D S S to get the address.
Rene (PS0V7) [7382] Actually it's stupid that business about the envelopes.
Tony (PS0V4) [7383] Mm.

108 (Tape 010902)

Jackie (PS0V5) [7384] quite sure which one.
[7385] It's slightly higher than the other.
Christine (PS0V6) [7386] Well it just sort of right.
[7387] It's just like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [7388] No it's not, no it's not.
[7389] ... Tiny little bit.
Christine (PS0V6) [7390] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7391] I ... I think mine are more out than yours actually.
Christine (PS0V6) [7392] Yeah cos [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7393] Yeah.
[7394] But mine are, I think mine are more out than yours but ... they're not level.
[7395] And that's ... those dimples are the bottom ... are on the bottom bit of your spine so ... if the dimples aren't level it means that bit of your back is slightly
Christine (PS0V6) [7396] Yeah and you gotta have something wrong with your back.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7397] No.
Christine (PS0V6) [7398] [...] you get that, can't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7399] No.
Christine (PS0V6) [7400] Did I have that when I was [...] ?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7401] That doesn't matter.
[7402] Daddy's legs needn't be the same length.
[7403] Men's legs needn't be the same length.
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh] [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7404] In fact very few people's legs are exactly the same length.
Christine (PS0V6) [7405] Hello hello hello ... hello hello hello hello hello hello hello.
[7406] Mummy [...] touch me on my arm and [...] keep going on [singing] I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm dreaming of a white white white white white white white white white white [] [laugh] .
[7407] They do that don't they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7408] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [7409] [singing] White white white white white white white white white white white white white Christmas
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [7410] just like the ones we used to know know know know where the treetops glisten glisten [...] []
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [7411] You record over that now!
[7412] ... What's it Ben?
[7413] Right [...] .
[7414] [...] Ben. [barking]
Tony (PS0V4) [7415] Eh eh eh.
Christine (PS0V6) [7416] What is it Ben?
[7417] Ben.
[7418] Get him to lick the microphone.
[7419] That'll make a hell of a noise.
[7420] Schlurp
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [7421] [laugh] Slurp.
Tony (PS0V4) [7422] Oh stupid dog.
Christine (PS0V6) [7423] [...] [laugh] ... Ben.
[7424] Ben.
[7425] [barking] Right then give me that microphone, give me that microphone.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7426] No no no.
Tony (PS0V4) [7427] No no no.
Christine (PS0V6) [7428] [singing] I'm dreaming of [] .
[7429] Sounds more like Des O'Connor.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7430] Ben, Ben go and talk to Daddy.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [7431] [whispering to dog] Talk to daddy.
[7432] What's this what's this what's this.
Tony (PS0V4) [7433] What is it Ben? [woof]
Tony (PS0V4) [7434] Is that right?
Christine (PS0V6) [7435] Is that nice, is it nice?
[7436] Is that nice [...]

109 (Tape 010903)

Tony (PS0V4) [7437] You can't wear him out can you?
Christine (PS0V6) [7438] No but you can keep trying.
Tony (PS0V4) [7439] Come on Ben.
[7440] Grr.
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh] [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7441] [laugh] You wouldn't think he was being nice, would you?
Tony (PS0V4) [7442] No. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7443] He looks like a [...] [laugh] ...

110 (Tape 010904)

Tony (PS0V4) [7444] Ow!
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7445] I can change hands ... he can't
Christine (PS0V6) [7446] Do it faster, do it faster dad!
Tony (PS0V4) [7447] he can't change mouth.
Christine (PS0V6) [7448] Dad change it faster [...] and go faster and faster and faster.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7449] Ah!
Tony (PS0V4) [7450] Have you hurt your mouth?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7451] Did you bite your lip?
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7452] Oh yuk.
[7453] Ben Ben.
[7454] [...] he's got his back legs [...]
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [7455] [laugh] bu.

111 (Tape 010905)

Christine (PS0V6) [7456] Whee!
[7457] Smurf!
Tony (PS0V4) [7458] Whee what?
Christine (PS0V6) [7459] I'm a Smurf.
Tony (PS0V4) [7460] You're a Smurf?
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7461] [...] bum in the air.
[7462] Come on, bed!
Tony (PS0V4) [7463] You should be going to bed now.
Christine (PS0V6) [7464] No [...] don't wanna go to bed.
Tony (PS0V4) [7465] Come on. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7466] [laugh] ... Come on, bed! ...
Christine (PS0V6) [7467] Don't swear at me my dear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7468] I'm not swearing at you.
[7469] I just pointed upwards.
[7470] To go up ... the stairs.
Christine (PS0V6) [7471] Dad your tape's stopped.
Tony (PS0V4) [7472] No it hasn't.
[7473] But you are gonna go to bed now.
Christine (PS0V6) [7474] It hasn't?
[7475] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [7476] No.
[7477] It hasn't.
[7478] Go on.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7479] Come along.
Tony (PS0V4) [7480] We'll be up in a minute. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [7481] Brush your teeth.
Christine (PS0V6) [7482] I've already done that.
[7483] I'm coming I'm coming ... ooh ... parents!
Tony (PS0V4) [7484] Kids!
Christine (PS0V6) [7485] Parents! ...
Tony (PS0V4) [7486] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7487] You'd better take her lamp upstairs out of the way as well because that's, remember that's a present.
[7488] It's gotta be wrapped up.
Tony (PS0V4) [7489] It's got to be wrapped up.
[7490] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7491] I know she's picked it out but [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh] ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [7492] I ordered a skirt this morning as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [7493] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7494] A navy blue pleated one.
Tony (PS0V4) [7495] Mhm.
[7496] So you want ... it'll probably come as black and white spotted
Jackie (PS0V5) [7497] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7498] in a different style ... but
Jackie (PS0V5) [7499] Yeah Well, we tried.
[7500] Why is it lately that I go to, before I start my ... my work
Tony (PS0V4) [7501] Mhm?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7502] I feel absolutely done in.
[7503] You know I've worked so much at home
Tony (PS0V4) [7504] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7505] that I feel so tired.
[7506] ... So I think this is half the reason why [laugh] I'm not ... that [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7507] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7508] Because by the time I get to work
Tony (PS0V4) [7509] Mm.
[7510] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7511] You know?
Tony (PS0V4) [sigh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7512] You get there and there's, there's not that much pressure so you tend to sort of think ... ah.
[7513] And you go at the speed that it warrants.
Tony (PS0V4) [7514] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7515] If there's a lot to do you go quicker and if there's not you go slower.
Tony (PS0V4) [7516] Mm.
[7517] ... One of the gir er one of the women on the course ... is er ... she's, she said is the introduction course on, week after next st
Jackie (PS0V5) [7518] Introduction?
Tony (PS0V4) [7519] starting on the Monday?
[7520] ... I said starting on the Monday?
[7521] Do you mean the one that starts on the Tuesday?
[7522] Oh that's it she said it's Tuesday to Friday.
[7523] I said ... yes it's on, I'm running it. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7524] What did she say?
Tony (PS0V4) [7525] She said, oh good! [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7526] Ooh.
Tony (PS0V4) [7527] Which is nice.
[7528] But ... then she couldn't very well say, oh no, could she? [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7529] No.
[7530] Oh what you again!
[7531] [laughing] Gotta put up with you for another four days [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7532] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7533] [...] ... No I er ... I've got some bits to give back to Julie, there's those tapes and ... I don't want to listen to it, you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [7534] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7535] And that book upstairs.
[7536] I don't want to read it, I'm not interested.
Tony (PS0V4) [7537] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7538] But what can you say to her? ...
Tony (PS0V4) [7539] Say, mm yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7540] Yeah but then she'll start asking me things about it and I won't know.
Tony (PS0V4) [7541] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7542] I'll just say, look Julie I haven't had time to read it
Tony (PS0V4) [7543] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7544] so you might as well have it all back.
[7545] [laughing] And don't give it to me again. []
Tony (PS0V4) [7546] Only ... she will say ... well hang on to it till you've listened to it.
[7547] ... I'm in no hurry.
[7548] ... That's the problem. ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [7549] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7550] And
Jackie (PS0V5) [7551] Well fine.
[7552] In that case I'll hang on to it but I really think she ought to, actually I'll I'll take round there when I'm home.
Tony (PS0V4) [7553] Either that ... or
Jackie (PS0V5) [7554] Wrap it up and drop it through the letter box. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7555] No!
[7556] No you can wait until you can see her going out with ... wait until the car's not there if you know what car she's driving these days.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7557] Oh dear.
Tony (PS0V4) [7558] And then you drop it in on Iris when she's looking after
Jackie (PS0V5) [7559] Well Iris is there Wednesdays and Fridays.
Christine (PS0V6) [7560] [shouting] Mum [] ,
Jackie (PS0V5) [7561] [shouting] Alright [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7562] So you can drop it in on a Wednesday ... drop it in ...
Jackie (PS0V5) [7563] On Iris.
Tony (PS0V4) [7564] On Iris and say
Jackie (PS0V5) [7565] I haven't seen Julie actually about the kid's Christmas presents.
[7566] And not getting stuff for each other so I hope she hasn't been out and done it all.
Tony (PS0V4) [7567] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7568] Ooh [sigh] ... [tv on]
Tony (PS0V4) [7569] That programme's on ... in about five minutes about food?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7570] Oh yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7571] And we've got quite a bit well ... either that or we could watch the programme and then wash up, clear up and go to bed.
[7572] ... Couldn't we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7573] I haven't had time to do any shopping today or anything.
Tony (PS0V4) [7574] So we ... we'll have a cup of tea in a minute.
[7575] We'll ge , see Christine in bed.
[7576] Have a cup of tea and watch that programme.
[7577] ... Yeah?
[7578] ... Okay.
[7579] ... Erm ... Right, in that case ... let's go and say goodnight to Christine.

112 (Tape 011101)

Tony (PS0V4) [7580] Hello
Jackie (PS0V5) [7581] Hello ... wiring for the tape?
Tony (PS0V4) [7582] Yeah.
Rene (PS0V7) [7583] When have you got to give that back?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7584] Tomorrow.
Tony (PS0V4) [7585] Tomorrow ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7586] The lady's coming for it ... Is there anything you want ... at the supermarket? ... that we might forget when we're there.
Tony (PS0V4) [7587] Erm ... I could do with some new trout ... [laugh] Ben ... yeah you!
Jackie (PS0V5) [7588] What are you doing with that biscuit.
Rene (PS0V7) [7589] Jack ... see what their erm ... see if they've got any mar mar er marzipan.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7590] Marzipan?
Rene (PS0V7) [7591] Yeah, please see if they've got any ... but if they haven't
Jackie (PS0V5) [7592] How much do you want if they've got some?
Rene (PS0V7) [7593] Well [...] .

113 (Tape 011102)

Tony (PS0V4) [7594] Shall I take an e no I'll just take another tape along.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7595] Well I should ... take an extra one the more you can get the better ... that's what it's all about isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7596] Yeah ... cos er
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7597] by the time we got to er ... Mum's last time I didn't have any left did I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7598] No.

114 (Tape 011103)

Tony (PS0V4) [7599] I'm gonna give you my wallet.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7600] [...] ... Sorry I was sat there writing out a shopping list and I suddenly thought ... oh ten past seven ... [shouting] oh ten past seven! [] [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7601] Should have been gone by now whe ... great thanks ever so much ... there you go.
Rene (PS0V7) [7602] Do you leave this door open?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7603] Yeah.

115 (Tape 011104)

Tony (PS0V4) [7604] [laughing] and I fumbling for my key. []
Jackie (PS0V5) [7605] You were fumbling were you?
Tony (PS0V4) [7606] Yep ... fumbling for my key.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7607] Fumble, fumble, fumble.
Tony (PS0V4) [7608] It amazes me how early they are people are putting up their Christmas decorations.
Rene (PS0V7) [7609] It's only three weeks, innit?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7610] Yeah but no I mean ... Caroline down there have had lights up for about six weeks.
Rene (PS0V7) [7611] Oh good god ... a bit too early.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7612] Erm ... I mean most people in your flat it's still three weeks away ... we tend to put ours up about a week early, just over a week before Christmas.
Rene (PS0V7) [7613] That we do.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7614] No it gets a bit ridiculous when it's ... a week before and then until January the sixth.
Rene (PS0V7) [7615] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7616] That's what we tend to do isn't it?
Tony (PS0V4) [7617] Mhm ... [...] [car radio on in background]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7618] It always looks [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [cough]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7619] like that, [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [7620] I wish they'd stop going on about Christmas for heaven's sake, [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [7621] [...] ... I I'm trying not to think about ... way I feel on Christmas morning cos [...]

116 (Tape 011105)

Jackie (PS0V5) [7622] her birthday ... because of Christmas
Rene (PS0V7) [7623] Oh I see.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7624] she gets so this is your Christmas present and your birthday present
Rene (PS0V7) [7625] And that's all wrong.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7626] all in one ... and I think that's horrible ... [laughing] Did you see that car []
Rene (PS0V7) [7627] They got a bi they got tinsel around the aerial
Jackie (PS0V5) [7628] Just put ... yeah ... tinsel wound around
Tony (PS0V4) [7629] Oh no.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7630] the aerial and he's trailing some in the back window as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [7631] Ha ha.
Christine (PS0V6) [7632] How stupid can people get!
Jackie (PS0V5) [7633] Well ... you sa
Tony (PS0V4) [7634] I don't know that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7635] you say that but if we had a cigarette lighter in ... in this car, a socket ... an electrical socket I'd
Christine (PS0V6) [7636] You'd have a little tree with flashing lights.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [7637] No.
Rene (PS0V7) [7638] Looks like you can't get out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7639] Oh look at that one they got arrows ... an they got two arrows facing one another.
Rene (PS0V7) [7640] Yeah ... Rightio Jackie ... I'll see you all tomorrow night.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7641] Okay then.
Rene (PS0V7) [7642] Bye.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7643] Bye.
Rene (PS0V7) [7644] Cheerio Christine.
Tony (PS0V4) [7645] Okay?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7646] Yeah I'm alright ... ah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7647] Chilly isn't it? ... [cough]
Christine (PS0V6) [7648] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [7649] Oh it's pedestrians I can read the sign from back there.
Tony (PS0V4) [7650] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7651] [...] it looks.
Christine (PS0V6) [7652] [...] I suppose.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7653] no there's already a pavement there.
Christine (PS0V6) [7654] I don't know.
Tony (PS0V4) [7655] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [7656] [...] better pavement?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7657] Possibly.
Tony (PS0V4) [7658] Widening the road?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7659] Maybe ... or putting in erm ... that cable [...] ... cos they've dug a trench around it.
Tony (PS0V4) [7660] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7661] Putting a barbed wire fence round the [...] stop the [...] [laughing] I don't know [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7662] [laugh] ... Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [7663] Can you turn it up again Daddy?
[7664] I still can't here it.
Tony (PS0V4) [7665] Well I can ... and I don't wanna be deafened by it.

117 (Tape 011106)

Jackie (PS0V5) [7666] This man's up here selling his Christmas trees again, he's a real menace this chap.
Tony (PS0V4) [7667] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7668] No ... it gets blocked though doesn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7669] Yeah ... it's on a weekend when everybody comes out here to buy their trees and they're parking they're cars on the roundabout
Tony (PS0V4) [7670] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7671] mm ... it gets a bit much though.
Tony (PS0V4) [7672] I'm glad we don't go for that [...] sort of tree actually.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7673] No ... I was looking at trees in er ... B and Q
Tony (PS0V4) [7674] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7675] I'm not suggesting anything don't say it in that tone of voice!
Tony (PS0V4) [7676] It's alright no I didn't mean t [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [7677] and they had ... do you know how much er a really nice ... sort of six foot seven foot tree is?
Tony (PS0V4) [7678] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7679] An artificial one from B and Q seventy nine pounds was a seven foot one
Tony (PS0V4) [7680] Good grief!
Jackie (PS0V5) [7681] sixty nine pounds was a six foot one.
Tony (PS0V4) [7682] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7683] Mind they were lovely trees
Tony (PS0V4) [7684] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7685] they were sort of blue spruce type, do you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [7686] Yeah ... but
Jackie (PS0V5) [7687] But you think ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [7688] Good grief!
Christine (PS0V6) [7689] [shouting] I know what I'm gonna do for practical [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [7690] Oh Christine!
Tony (PS0V4) [7691] You made me jump then.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7692] [laughing] Yeah so did I [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [7693] [shouting] I know exactly what I'm gonna do for practical [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7694] What are you gonna do?
Christine (PS0V6) [7695] [shouting] Exactly! []
[7696] ... I'm gonna make this little shape of a snowman ... and then I sew s sequins on it.
Tony (PS0V4) [7697] Oh yes that would be lovely.
Christine (PS0V6) [7698] She showed us one, she had a Christmas tree ... and she had er ... star ... and tha that was the same kind of thing it's sort of
Tony (PS0V4) [7699] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [7700] stuffed and then it had sequins sewn and that.
Tony (PS0V4) [7701] Oh that would be nice, Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [7702] It'll be lovely ... [...] do that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7703] Sounds really nice.
Christine (PS0V6) [7704] Yes.
Tony (PS0V4) [7705] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [7706] But you've got to pay a little of money.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7707] Well that doesn't matter.
Christine (PS0V6) [7708] Because
Tony (PS0V4) [7709] It's alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [7710] She said all the fabrics and sequins are fairly expensive.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7711] They are.
Tony (PS0V4) [7712] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [7713] So if you wanna take them home you've got to pay a little bit of money
Tony (PS0V4) [7714] Well that's alright we'll
Jackie (PS0V5) [7715] That's alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [7716] it's only about twenty ... twenty, thirty, forty pee something like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [7717] Twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a pound [laughing] yeah I know [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [7718] No ... the highest she said is about fifty pee.
Tony (PS0V4) [7719] Alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [7720] It's not much ... and that's
Tony (PS0V4) [7721] And that's e
Christine (PS0V6) [7722] the highest ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7723] Well that's not high.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7724] I wonder what's happening here?
Tony (PS0V4) [7725] Well what's happening here is all the cars are stopped and there all [laugh] one behind the other
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7726] [laughing] ... sorry ... I ... [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [7727] I'll get my own back on you! [ambulance goes past]
Tony (PS0V4) [7728] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7729] Oh ... ha.
Christine (PS0V6) [7730] Oh no ... somebody's in trouble.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7731] There's been an h accident.
Tony (PS0V4) [7732] No there's been an accident Christine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7733] That's what it er ... seems like ... erm if there's a police car ... you can bet your life ... the chances are ... there's gonna be another one or an ambulance ... if there's been an accident.
Tony (PS0V4) [7734] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7735] This cars turned round even to go out the bottom of [...] ... there's been an accident ... oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [7736] Mum?
[7737] ... Mummy?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7738] Just take it out of gear ... please ... yeah?
Tony (PS0V4) [7739] There are pe some people are going down erm Shallard's Road.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7740] Probably a good idea ... actually well done ... if er we get the chance we'll er ... do the same
Tony (PS0V4) [7741] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7742] go down Shallard's Road and then we can go down er ... where is it?
[7743] ... Oh it's up there ... where is no that's the police ... yeah the police cars parked down there
Tony (PS0V4) [7744] So if you went along Shallard's Road
Jackie (PS0V5) [7745] and came out of Long Beach we'll miss it
Tony (PS0V4) [7746] Came out of Long Beach Road we'll miss it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7747] Yeah ... so
Tony (PS0V4) [7748] Or you could go down California Road
Jackie (PS0V5) [7749] Well that's what I ... that's what I mean go down ... down Shallard's Road here down
Tony (PS0V4) [7750] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [7751] from California Road
Tony (PS0V4) [7752] and along Long Beach
Jackie (PS0V5) [7753] and along the Long Beach Road
Tony (PS0V4) [7754] or you could carry on along California Road
Jackie (PS0V5) [7755] I don't wanna go
Tony (PS0V4) [7756] you
Jackie (PS0V5) [7757] past that ... if it is an accident I don't wanna go past it.
Tony (PS0V4) [7758] If you went on down ... California Road ... and went down into Oldland
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7759] by Christine's school
Jackie (PS0V5) [7760] Oh no I'm not going all around that way.
Tony (PS0V4) [7761] then you could come off the roundabout from Kachenend
Jackie (PS0V5) [7762] [...] avoiding the strategy.
Christine (PS0V6) [7763] I hope that's not what I think it is.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7764] It's probably a road accident Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [7765] Someone's been knocked down.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7766] Did you see?
Christine (PS0V6) [7767] Awful lot of people standing about.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7768] Yeah well that's because people are ghoulish ... some people will stand in the road and stare.
Christine (PS0V6) [7769] Mummy, there was shopping bags and bags and things upset on the floor.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7770] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [7771] In the road.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7772] Might not be it might be equipment out of the ambulance or something you don't know.
Christine (PS0V6) [7773] Mum in each of these groups ... in erm ... today ... I know exactly what they're doing ... what we did before was cookery ... this month's sewing and fabric ... and next month ... what else is there ahead in projects?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7774] Ooh all sorts.
Christine (PS0V6) [7775] What are some of them though ... Mum?
[7776] ... There's sewing, cooking ... [...] ... machinery and [...] ... no ... no ... machinery, it could be ... yes?
Tony (PS0V4) [7777] Don't know Christine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7778] Could be you could have all sorts of things sweetheart ... We I bet you we'll come out and it'll be right opposite us ... instead of missing it do you know what I mean ... still it was further up the road than the junction ... but the ... bus didn't seem to be having any trouble.
Tony (PS0V4) [7779] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7780] There's no queue of traffic along here so far ... it seems to be coming through fairly er ... well.
Tony (PS0V4) [7781] No there's not hold up up there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7782] I can't see properly yet.
Tony (PS0V4) [7783] Well what I saw was some tail lights going along the road.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7784] How could you have seen it from here?
[7785] ... Back there you couldn't see the road up there.
Tony (PS0V4) [7786] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7787] Well you didn't see it from back there ... Well there's an ambulance.
Tony (PS0V4) [7788] Yeah ... somebody's hurt.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7789] It's impossible to [...] maybe maybe somebody
Tony (PS0V4) [7790] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7791] knocked down Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [7792] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7793] Happy Christmas.
Tony (PS0V4) [7794] Yeah ... that's what I was thinking ... it's funny it's sort of ... Christmas makes everything better or worse.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7795] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7796] Bad things ... for a bad thing to happen over Christmas, it's worse.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7797] And if a nice thing happens
Tony (PS0V4) [7798] happens
Jackie (PS0V5) [7799] it's te ten times better.
Tony (PS0V4) [7800] it it's ... better ... it's makes every thing more intense ... somehow.
Christine (PS0V6) [7801] Mum my technology teacher said ... she erm [...] ... every year she [...] Christmas decoration.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7802] I think everybody does Christine does, we always
Christine (PS0V6) [7803] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7804] do.
Christine (PS0V6) [7805] Do we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7806] Yep ... don't we?
Tony (PS0V4) [7807] Yep ... but I haven't
Jackie (PS0V5) [7808] Oh my
Tony (PS0V4) [7809] I haven't succumbed yet this year ... have I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7810] [...] ha ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [7811] Or have we ... did we buy something when we were going round er
Tony (PS0V4) [7812] No ... no we haven't bought anything yet.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7813] Erm ... there's something up at Matchland I'd like though ... we haven't succumbed to our set of lights yet ... actually.
Tony (PS0V4) [7814] No ... well that will be our ... that will be our Christmas trimmings that we bought this year.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7815] I always cringe when I see a lorry like that coming on the road ... when you can't see past it
Tony (PS0V4) [7816] [cough] ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7817] cos you think well if I can't see any of the cars behind it then they can't see me either.
Tony (PS0V4) [7818] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7819] I always sort of tend to ease off a bit.

118 (Tape 011107)

Jackie (PS0V5) [7820] I'm afraid that's why I get paranoid Christine and say
Christine (PS0V6) [7821] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7822] be careful of the roads because ... a car ... can't ... erm ... can't always stop in time ... it's up to you not to walk out in front of them ... cos they can say oh well you should be able to stop in time ... but in practice if you drove to be able to stop in time if somebody stepped out in front of you you'd never above ... about five miles an hour ... you know? ... you must sort of stick to the speed limits ... I don't believe it we got [...] gaining on the car in front.
Tony (PS0V4) [7823] Still he's a learner again. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7824] If it's a learner he's breaking the law.
Tony (PS0V4) [7825] Yes he is ... ha ha ... he's breaking the law anyway.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7826] I know.
Christine (PS0V6) [7827] Yeah ... cos he should have his L plate
Jackie (PS0V5) [7828] And he's not
Christine (PS0V6) [7829] on his [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [7830] that's right.

119 (Tape 011108)

Jackie (PS0V5) [7831] We'll have to apologise ... say there was a an accident.
Tony (PS0V4) [7832] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7833] It is true.
Tony (PS0V4) [7834] Yeah ... it didn't hold us up but there was an accident. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7835] It did hold us up ... I mean we would have been down there a lot quicker if we hadn't had to
Tony (PS0V4) [7836] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7837] five minutes.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7838] What?
Tony (PS0V4) [7839] It's alright.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7840] What?
Tony (PS0V4) [7841] I would have slowed down a lot more than that [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [7842] [laughing] Well you're learning to drive, I'm not [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7843] Yeah ... that's right ... no reflection on you ... it's just that I'm thinking ... oh ... I ca I just can't see the time when I would ever drive through a gap like that that confidently that's all.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7844] My foot went on the
Tony (PS0V4) [7845] But it'll come.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7846] accelerator.
Tony (PS0V4) [7847] Ah yeah you eased off ... that's all. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7848] That
Tony (PS0V4) [7849] Only I would have probably braked, changed down [laughing] ended up in second and crept past it ... on the inside [] and then speeded up again.
[7850] [laugh] ... I don't ... perhaps not that bad but ... I would have definitely braked ... and not just eased off on the accelerator.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7851] You'll have to give these brakes a bit more welly [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [7852] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7853] they are er ... in need of a
Tony (PS0V4) [7854] A service.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7855] Oh Neil's complaining it's started ... oh I haven't got enough money.
Tony (PS0V4) [7856] Ah. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7857] He's just moved into a new house you know
Tony (PS0V4) [7858] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7859] about a fortnight, three weeks ago
Tony (PS0V4) [7860] Mm ... modification to lifestyle
Jackie (PS0V5) [7861] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7862] needed.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7863] And his girlfriend got the sack from her job not too long ago.
Tony (PS0V4) [7864] Oh no.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7865] So she does ... she's a florist ... flowers
Tony (PS0V4) [7866] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7867] so she does a lot of flower arrangements and that privately
Tony (PS0V4) [7868] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7869] but as she said you ... if you make twenty arrangements and you sell half of them you just about break even with the flowers you've bought to do them.
Tony (PS0V4) [7870] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7871] You know?
Tony (PS0V4) [7872] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7873] Leadless plumber ... not legless,legl leadless oh ... You know I'm sure that the ... this roof rack ... I'm sure you can feel the difference ... in the car sometimes ... well not feel the difference but you can hear it, it makes an awful noise at times when the winds blowing.
Tony (PS0V4) [7874] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7875] You know?
Tony (PS0V4) [7876] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7877] You think ... urgh!
[7878] ... I hate driving round this with the rack on ... I absolutely hate it ... if it's windy it's [laughing] awful [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7879] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7880] It sounds like fire engines going off above your head.

120 (Tape 011109)

Tony (PS0V4) [7881] Oh Brian annoyed me on my lesson ... I pulled up to the Kingsway ... right?
[7882] [cough] ... And I was wanting to turn left
Jackie (PS0V5) [7883] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7884] going along the Kingsway coming back from the driv the driving test centre
Jackie (PS0V5) [7885] Oh I know.
Tony (PS0V4) [7886] yeah?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7887] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7888] And there's a filter light ... and he said oh you'll be waiting here ages put it in neutral ... just as
Jackie (PS0V5) [7889] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7890] just as I did it the bloody filter light came on
Jackie (PS0V5) [7891] Yeah ... he's silly
Tony (PS0V4) [7892] and you oh
Jackie (PS0V5) [7893] I don't know why he makes you do that ... I mean it's ... if that was something the ... I mean all Tony used to ever say when we were at traffic lights were ... if you want to ... you can put the handbrake on at this set of traffic lights ... if they were downhill
Tony (PS0V4) [7894] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7895] because erm ... there will be ... oh what was I it's alright I was concentrating ... said you can put the handbrake on these set of traffic lights if you like ... because you might be sat here a while and your foot will ache ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [7896] Good grief ... wha I always have to put the handbrake on at traffic lights.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7897] No ... he says it's a ... Tony used to say to me it's entirely up to you ... hi traffic lights coming up hill yes ... but down hill ... no it's ... you needn't you can sit there wi ready with the foot brake.
Tony (PS0V4) [7898] Mm ... yeah Brian's argument to that is ... that er if you've got ... if you were hit ... in the back
Jackie (PS0V5) [7899] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7900] you would tend to raise your foot off the brake ... sort of jump and take your foot off the brake and you'd go forward and hit the car in front.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7901] Well the handbrake is only a parking brake the handbrake only o operates on two wheels in any case
Tony (PS0V4) [7902] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7903] not four ... so the handbr I mean the fact that you can drive with the handbrake on
Tony (PS0V4) [7904] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7905] if you're insistent about it ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [7906] [laugh] ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7907] Erm tells you a lot it wouldn't erm ... if somebody hit you in the back you'd still move if you had the handbrake on.
Tony (PS0V4) [7908] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7909] In fact probably you'd move more ... cos he says yo your instinct is take your feet off ... I think your instinct would be to jump on it all the harder.
Tony (PS0V4) [7910] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7911] Cos the instinct would be to stop the car from moving.
Tony (PS0V4) [7912] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7913] If you see what I mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [7914] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7915] No then I might be wrong I don't know ... but all this ... putting the car in neutral ... goodness knows what!
Tony (PS0V4) [7916] It only makes you slower away.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7917] It does it just makes you slower getting away
Tony (PS0V4) [7918] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7919] and one of the things is that's important is ... hesitancy
Tony (PS0V4) [7920] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7921] or la and lack of it ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7922] But ha I remember I was on my test and I pulled round ... er it was very, very busy and there were two rows of cars ... and I pulled up ... and I thought right there's a gap down there and I want to go straight on and all these others were turning le ... turning right so I squeezed down through the gap ... and then I thought right I'm gonna be here a little while shall I put it in neutral, blow no I won't.
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7923] So gi given the ... unless somebody's out ... unless you're if he'd actually tells me to do it ... I will say ... I was sort of oh alright and do it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7924] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7925] Yeah but ... mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7926] No he he makes you do an awful lot of things that are really unnecessary.
Tony (PS0V4) [7927] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7928] Well I mean ... I passed my test an I weren't made to do any of that.
Tony (PS0V4) [7929] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7930] I would have thought how stupid it was ... if I'd been made do it.
Tony (PS0V4) [7931] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7932] That's why I think I've said to you on occasions oh ... you know
Tony (PS0V4) [7933] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7934] what are you doing that for sort of thing.
Tony (PS0V4) [7935] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7936] I bet your Mum's thinking we're not coming.
Tony (PS0V4) [7937] [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [7938] Can Grandma sit at the back with me?
Tony (PS0V4) [7939] No I'll sit at the back.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7940] Well no let her sit at the front ... now Christine ... don't be
Tony (PS0V4) [7941] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7942] mean.
Mum (PS0V8) [7943] Hello.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [7944] Yep.
Christine (PS0V6) [7945] I know
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [7946] [...] Daddy.
Tony (PS0V4) [7947] Right thanks.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7948] [...] have to do it over there thank you.
Mum (PS0V8) [...] [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7949] So every everything was held right up so what we did was we was we cut back off ... we're coming along the main road cut back off and went all down ... Halbury New Road and along Beach Road and around that way.
Mum (PS0V8) [7950] Oh yeah ... it's a long way round isn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [7951] Yeah but there was an accident so everybody stopped
Mum (PS0V8) [7952] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7953] so.

121 (Tape 011110)

Mum (PS0V8) [7954] What colour desk did you have?
Christine (PS0V6) [7955] A pine one ... thanks
Mum (PS0V8) [7956] Did you?
Christine (PS0V6) [7957] for buying it ... so
Tony (PS0V4) [7958] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7959] [...] in the road.
Mum (PS0V8) [7960] It's go it's got shelves on then?
Tony (PS0V4) [7961] Ah I know ... no.
Christine (PS0V6) [7962] [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [7963] Oh it's a different one?
Christine (PS0V6) [7964] It's got [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [7965] [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [7966] like
Tony (PS0V4) [7967] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [7968] the top ... a bit cut out there and it's got about three draws
Mum (PS0V8) [7969] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [7970] but we found out the measurements for it to go
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [7971] so
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [7972] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [7973] Go in her room.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7974] in the bedroom.
Christine (PS0V6) [7975] so we got
Mum (PS0V8) [7976] Ah.
Christine (PS0V6) [7977] a gap [...] text books [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [7978] Where's your
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7979] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [7980] Mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [7981] goes in the bedroom.
Tony (PS0V4) [7982] so what we
Jackie (PS0V5) [7983] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [7984] her chest of drawers and her desk just won't go.
Mum (PS0V8) [7985] Oh right.
Tony (PS0V4) [7986] So what we've gotta do
Jackie (PS0V5) [7987] And we can't turn it round anyway we tried all ways
Mum (PS0V8) [7988] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7989] and it just doesn't fit.
Tony (PS0V4) [7990] so what we've gotta do is we gotta buy her desk and we've gotta buy her a little chest of drawers [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [7991] so that she can use
Jackie (PS0V5) [7992] So if you know anybody that wants plain set chest of drawers
Mum (PS0V8) [7993] [...] for it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [7994] we have another pair.
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [7995] They can have it.
Mum (PS0V8) [7996] Ha.

122 (Tape 011111)

Tony (PS0V4) [7997] Er this course is going well.
Mum (PS0V8) [7998] Good ... yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [7999] Yeah ... good group ... and er ... I take
Mum (PS0V8) [8000] Interested?
Tony (PS0V4) [8001] Yeah ... they're interested ... actually ... and they're quite quick as well.
Mum (PS0V8) [8002] Good.

123 (Tape 011112)

Tony (PS0V4) [8003] You alright?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8004] Yeah ... I've had to re-thread their damn machine for them they didn't have it threaded up right.
Tony (PS0V4) [8005] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8006] [laugh] Oh dear ... hopeless aren't I?
Tony (PS0V4) [8007] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8008] No on when it came down the bag missed the hanger instead of one bit going each side of the hanger so that the clothes were inside
Tony (PS0V4) [8009] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8010] it wasn't it was all at the front you couldn't do it anyway
Tony (PS0V4) [8011] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8012] and when I looked they didn't have it threaded up right at the top ... at all I had to re-thread the machine.
Tony (PS0V4) [8013] Ha ... Okay?
[8014] ... Oh ... shall I er
Jackie (PS0V5) [8015] [...] getting to the end now?
Tony (PS0V4) [8016] Yeah.

124 (Tape 011113)

Christine (PS0V6) [8017] Daddy ... can I have [...] can I have an apple?
Tony (PS0V4) [8018] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8019] One of those erm crispy ones ... what are they called?
Tony (PS0V4) [8020] I don't know you tell me ... What
Christine (PS0V6) [8021] Erm
Tony (PS0V4) [8022] colour are they?
Christine (PS0V6) [8023] They're green.
Tony (PS0V4) [8024] Oh right I know
Christine (PS0V6) [8025] They're green but they're sort of really, really juicy and crunchy.
Tony (PS0V4) [8026] I know.
Christine (PS0V6) [8027] You know?
Tony (PS0V4) [8028] Granny Smiths.

125 (Tape 011114)

Tony (PS0V4) [8029] Christine has said can she take an apple to school with her packed lunch
Jackie (PS0V5) [8030] Why is it I [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8031] So if I got those
Jackie (PS0V5) [8032] That ones not a bruised one is it?
Tony (PS0V4) [8033] Is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8034] Alright.
Mum (PS0V8) [8035] Is that all that I've done? ... [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8036] Erm ... can you get me [...] ?
Tony (PS0V4) [8037] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8038] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8039] Alright?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8040] You've got [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8041] I will have these ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8042] [...] okay?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8043] Do you want a few red apples as well.
Tony (PS0V4) [8044] Mm ... yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8045] I'll get a bag.
Mum (PS0V8) [8046] I want those.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8047] Well you can a bag or ... oh
Tony (PS0V4) [8048] I'll get a bag.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8049] It's alright I'll get one ... Okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [8050] Yeah ... they've put wax on these I don't know something.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8051] I ... I don't know ... dust them up with a ... a cloth and a bit of Pledge I expect.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8052] There you are.
Tony (PS0V4) [8053] That's alright ... that's plenty ... garden.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8054] Yeah [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8055] Go round here?
Tony (PS0V4) [8056] Yeah, yeah ... and down there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8057] You know where everything is.
Christine (PS0V6) [8058] Do I ... I don't know!
Mum (PS0V8) [8059] Tried the entrance?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8060] Go out, out there.
Christine (PS0V6) [8061] You can't go out there the doors are in the wrong way.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8062] I won't be a moment.
Mum (PS0V8) [8063] Do you think they're er taking their money alright ... [...] Tony?
Tony (PS0V4) [8064] I know they are.
Mum (PS0V8) [8065] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [8066] Cos I did erm ... I was thinking ... we're going through this fairly quickly ... are they really taking it in ... so I s we stopped after I re reached a certain point and I spent the next sort of half an hour or so just asking them questions ... and some of the things they got right, some they got wrong ... so I went back over them until we got it right ... so ... sort of help to confirm things.
Mum (PS0V8) [8067] Like that [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8068] What this?
Mum (PS0V8) [8069] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [8070] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8071] Lovely!
[8072] ... I'd think it was comfortable to wear.
Tony (PS0V4) [8073] I don't know ... what it's like ... mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8074] Cosy.
Tony (PS0V4) [8075] Yeah ... sort of warm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8076] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [8077] These rugby shirts are ... they're very expensive ... it's amazing there's no way really that they should be ... overall ... I suppose it it's cos it's a bit of a cross between a sweatshirt and er ... but still eighte eighteen pound.
Mum (PS0V8) [8078] [...] that.
Tony (PS0V4) [8079] Eighteen pound for a shirt ... and the they're lovely these ... I do like them but ooh
Jackie (PS0V5) [8080] So do I ... are they not very warm?
Tony (PS0V4) [8081] They're not as warm as a sweatshirt.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8082] No ... are any the same
Mum (PS0V8) [8083] You you're just paying for it being a rugby shirt really
Tony (PS0V4) [8084] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8085] aren't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8086] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8087] Because it's fashionable.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8088] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [8089] Well not
Jackie (PS0V5) [8090] Christine ... I said we'd meet her by the baked beans ... so
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8091] It was I don't know where they are!
Tony (PS0V4) [8092] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8093] Mm right ... I ... I wanted cereal.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8094] Oh right [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8095] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8096] By the nappies ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8097] Yes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8098] I told her she had to do a [...] ... we haven't been there.
Mum (PS0V8) [8099] Well I'll get it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8100] Look she didn't show us.
Tony (PS0V4) [8101] Mother!
Mum (PS0V8) [8102] I wanna [...] what I'll do is I'll [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8103] She showed us the map on the last day before it ... due in ... eight o'clock
Jackie (PS0V5) [8104] It's go due in tomorrow ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8105] Yeah ... eight o'clock Wednesday night she showed it us the map.
Mum (PS0V8) [8106] Haven't you've gotta be joking!
Jackie (PS0V5) [8107] [laughing] I I'm not thinking [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8108] And she'd forgotten to give it to you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8109] I'm not ... because I'm not.

126 (Tape 011115)

Tony (PS0V4) [8110] I heard Brad having a conversation again today about ... Ooh I don't feel ye I heard him saying why don't we feel very happy about this and not ... and not happy with the subjects and I ... don't feel very happy about running the session ... so ... go up this way ... he's never done the work you see ... so he's trying to learn it from i ... instructions and things ... and ... a lot of the time you need to have actually done it to be able to talk about it
Mum (PS0V8) [8111] Yeah ... from experience.
Tony (PS0V4) [8112] So it's not his ... his fault but ... a lot of the training that we have to deliver is to do with ... procedures that he hadn't dealt with ... whereas ... a lot of the procedures ... are things that I'm familiar with ... there's only some ... the job centre stuff
Mum (PS0V8) [8113] It takes an awful lot of the different kind of practical experience.
Tony (PS0V4) [8114] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8115] Text books don't teach you everything. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [8116] No ... and I've got the erm ... I haven't got any experience in job centre work
Mum (PS0V8) [8117] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [8118] but the job centre work isn't as [laughing] complicated [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8119] No ... we had er ... [...] the marriage certificate and that back.
Tony (PS0V4) [8120] Oh ... good.
Mum (PS0V8) [8121] Yeah ... so it must have been alright cos there was no letter it just said with the compliments and just take it to
Tony (PS0V4) [8122] Right ... right.
Mum (PS0V8) [8123] two things back so
Tony (PS0V4) [8124] So you have to assume everything's okay
Mum (PS0V8) [8125] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [8126] because they haven't told you.
Mum (PS0V8) [8127] [laugh] They didn't [] ... so.
Tony (PS0V4) [8128] Good ... fine ... this is the way we operate.

127 (Tape 011116)

Tony (PS0V4) [8129] There's less in the jars than in the tins or although the
Jackie (PS0V5) [8130] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [8131] tins look look smaller.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8132] Yeah ... yeah ... that's a cold
Tony (PS0V4) [8133] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8134] Frosty you li you like these chips don't you and there's more in it so ... that's a mild one.
Tony (PS0V4) [8135] If that's alright?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8136] Yeah it is ... they're with
Tony (PS0V4) [8137] Mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [8138] the other ones.
Tony (PS0V4) [8139] That's the other one.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8140] Yeah.

128 (Tape 011117)

Jackie (PS0V5) [8141] I'll have to get another marzipan another time I'm not
Tony (PS0V4) [8142] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8143] [...] ... thank you for letting me get that top though I don't know
Tony (PS0V4) [8144] It's alright
Jackie (PS0V5) [8145] if it'll fit I might end up bringing it back yet.
Tony (PS0V4) [8146] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8147] But I've ordered a navy blue skirt and I'm praying it comes and if it comes it fits.
Tony (PS0V4) [8148] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8149] A navy blue skirt, that white top ... and that nice jumper that I bought in here, cardigan ... will look really nice when I go out with Mr and
Tony (PS0V4) [8150] Yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [8151] David and Paula and ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [8152] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8153] I mean they're paying for us to go for a meal you can't go dressed like
Tony (PS0V4) [8154] No ... I know ... sorry?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [8155] Did you have white wine, one litre.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8156] No, just one.
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [8157] Just one [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8158] How are you doing alright?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [8159] Okay.
Tony (PS0V4) [8160] And Robin?
Unknown speaker (KE3PSUNK) [8161] Yeah [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8162] Mum?
Mum (PS0V8) [8163] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8164] Did you want some Coke for Dad?
Mum (PS0V8) [8165] No my love, thank you.
Tony (PS0V4) [8166] Ah right okay.

129 (Tape 011118)

Jackie (PS0V5) [8167] You get a storage jar with that one as well so I could ... keep filling it up fr from
Tony (PS0V4) [8168] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8169] wherever.
Tony (PS0V4) [8170] As opposed to
Jackie (PS0V5) [8171] And it's quite cheap as well one sixty nine
Tony (PS0V4) [8172] using the normal ... [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8173] one eighty nine.
Tony (PS0V4) [8174] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8175] It's still a hundred gram jar as the same as that.
Tony (PS0V4) [8176] Mm ... okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8177] [...] ... okay ... bung it in Gungadin ... Do we need any more cereal?
[8178] ... I'll tell you what ... Dad likes ... chocolate raisins ... so if
Tony (PS0V4) [8179] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8180] we get Mum the toffees ... and Dad ... some of these.
Tony (PS0V4) [8181] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8182] [...] Christine's [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8183] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8184] Do you need any more cereal remember Christine [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8185] Erm ... right I better have one then really ... Yes Christine tends to eat several bowls a night sometimes doesn't she?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8186] Yeah I know she sometimes has [...] two bowls.
Tony (PS0V4) [8187] When the mood takes her.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8188] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8189] And tha ... that's growing up it's very good for her.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8190] Mm?
Tony (PS0V4) [8191] It's very nice ... cos it's very good for her.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8192] Yes.

130 (Tape 011201)

Tony (PS0V4) [8193] You can't see a thing round that corner can you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8194] No.
Mum (PS0V8) [8195] It's the same coming up hill ... from round there, it's terrible that road.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8196] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8197] Can't see anything coming over the horizon ... cos it's almost on top of you.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8198] Yes ... no I think once I turned round in that way and I wouldn't
Tony (PS0V4) [8199] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8200] do it again.
Mum (PS0V8) [8201] Oh you turned in did you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8202] Yeah ... Well I think ... for safety's sake
Mum (PS0V8) [8203] Yep ... I think you just might
Jackie (PS0V5) [8204] it's
Mum (PS0V8) [8205] get in there.
Tony (PS0V4) [8206] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8207] Yep that will just get in behind the
Mum (PS0V8) [8208] If that van was over the other side it would be much better.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8209] Yeah, I'm gonna go back just a little way
Tony (PS0V4) [8210] Mhm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8211] Yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8212] cos I'm ... bum stuck out.
Christine (PS0V6) [8213] I hope it's light when I do my test ... I've just gotta do a [...] back ... got black sort of snow white and I'm gonna do [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8214] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8215] It's gonna do [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8216] Okay?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8217] Yeah ... it's best to copy a book.
Christine (PS0V6) [8218] I can't find a [...] anywhere ... What do you think I should do, it's [...] at the moment.
Tony (PS0V4) [8219] Oh I haven't put the lock on.
Christine (PS0V6) [8220] That'll be good.
Mum (PS0V8) [8221] Quite a long walk if you're coming over there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8222] Oh yeah ... gosh!
Mum (PS0V8) [8223] Ooh there go and stand in the cold. [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [8224] No way, I'm standing in a nice and warm place [...] ... I don't think I should be copying a tree anyway ... a trees a tree.
Mum (PS0V8) [8225] A trees a tree, a cherry tree.

131 (Tape 011202)

Christine (PS0V6) [8226] On Christmas day Grandma comes round our house doesn't she and on Boxing day we go over hers.
Tony (PS0V4) [8227] Erm
Christine (PS0V6) [8228] What?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8229] I don't know. [dog barking in background]
Tony (PS0V4) [8230] I don't know what we're ... I don't know what we ... what the pl
Mum (PS0V8) [8231] Somebody out the back, ha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8232] I thought I heard somebody [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8233] Hello Grandma.
Mum (PS0V8) [8234] Hello.
Christine (PS0V6) [8235] A little birdie.
Mum (PS0V8) [8236] Hello Windy.
Christine (PS0V6) [8237] Oh Windy we just [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8238] Watch out!
Mum (PS0V8) [8239] Aha.
Christine (PS0V6) [8240] Oh Grandfather don't make Windy jump over me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8241] Ah ... oh he's lovely.
Mum (PS0V8) [8242] Hey get in there!
Christine (PS0V6) [8243] Hello Windy.
Tony (PS0V4) [8244] Ah.
Martin (PS0VB) [8245] [...] all.
Tony (PS0V4) [8246] Hello ... yes fine thanks, and you?
Martin (PS0VB) [8247] Yes, I'm very well.
Christine (PS0V6) [8248] Her paws, oh they're lovely ... Ah good boy ... [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8249] How's your foot?
Martin (PS0VB) [8250] Oh perfect now
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8251] Oh good
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Martin (PS0VB) [8252] Yes, it's lovely now.
Tony (PS0V4) [8253] Good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8254] Ah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8255] Ooh.
Martin (PS0VB) [8256] No [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8257] [...] that's beautiful. [dog barks]
Tony (PS0V4) [8258] Can you put that in your handbag.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8259] I said what a difference.
Tony (PS0V4) [8260] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8261] Hello.
Christine (PS0V6) [8262] What a difference!
Jackie (PS0V5) [8263] How are you?
[8264] ... I said what a difference, Dad.
Christine (PS0V6) [8265] [...] ... Hello, hello, hello.
Tony (PS0V4) [8266] Hello ... hello
Christine (PS0V6) [8267] Hello ... Ah she's [...] aren't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [8268] Yeah,we beautiful.
Mum (PS0V8) [8269] [...] !
Christine (PS0V6) [8270] Ah ... violent
Martin (PS0VB) [8271] Don't do that!
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8272] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [8273] Ben doesn't, Ben likes her.
Tony (PS0V4) [8274] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8275] half a pound of grapes
Tony (PS0V4) [8276] really frightened last week wasn't he?
Christine (PS0V6) [8277] Yeah ... [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8278] I will not be

132 (Tape 011203)

Tony (PS0V4) [8279] Oh that's the little microphone from the
Martin (PS0VB) [8280] Oh yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8281] thing I'm doing.
Mum (PS0V8) [8282] Yeah.
Martin (PS0VB) [8283] From the er what?
Tony (PS0V4) [8284] From the st survey I'm doing about spoken English.
Martin (PS0VB) [8285] Oh yeah aha.
Tony (PS0V4) [8286] Yeah I've recording things an ... now again ... er ... it's all done anonymously, they're coming ... I've done quite well actually I'm on ... tape number eleven ... I've rec recorded eleven tapes now of
Martin (PS0VB) [8287] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8288] various bits and pieces ... and er ... they're coming back ... tomorrow night to collect it all ... it's been quite interesting.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8289] [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8290] Hello Windy ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8291] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8292] Put the rest like that
Mum (PS0V8) [8293] Put all this [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8294] and he'll need somebody to throw his bone, doesn't he?
Mum (PS0V8) [8295] Yeah ... [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [8296] What a difference though.
Martin (PS0VB) [8297] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8298] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8299] I don't know.
Mum (PS0V8) [8300] And you.
Christine (PS0V6) [8301] Can you stay there?
Mum (PS0V8) [8302] [...] ... yeah you're just as beautiful.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8303] Yeah.

133 (Tape 011204)

Tony (PS0V4) [8304] You see an amazing difference in him though, he's much more outgoing.
Mum (PS0V8) [8305] Yeah ... we might
Christine (PS0V6) [8306] Oh, oh look, look, look.
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [8307] He had his one paw up on her knee.
Christine (PS0V6) [8308] [laugh] ... I thought he was going to jump up and oh golly.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8309] Oh you've got a ... [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8310] Look, look he's got his foot ... in the handle.
Mum (PS0V8) [8311] You're tripping over her bum ... yeah.

134 (Tape 011205)

Jackie (PS0V5) [8312] Dad would have another dog just like that.
Martin (PS0VB) [8313] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8314] We would but Mum
Martin (PS0VB) [8315] Mum said no.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8316] no.
Christine (PS0V6) [8317] Excuse me please?
Tony (PS0V4) [8318] What are you sniffing about for eh?
Martin (PS0VB) [8319] I've got her bone.
Christine (PS0V6) [8320] Lots of smells.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8321] It's not as cheap and there's you [...] .
Martin (PS0VB) [8322] [...] bone ... [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8323] A little won't hurt.
Tony (PS0V4) [8324] Oh.
Mum (PS0V8) [8325] In fact don't need that dear.
Tony (PS0V4) [8326] Well thanks Mum.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8327] Yeah I know it's had food in it, but it's empty ... see ... empty.
Martin (PS0VB) [8328] Do you like flo

135 (Tape 011206)

Martin (PS0VB) [8329] He don't shake like he was.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8330] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [8331] No.
Martin (PS0VB) [8332] I'm not shaking.
Mum (PS0V8) [8333] Well the difference in him in four days it's not bad really is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8334] Oh no.
Mum (PS0V8) [8335] Eh ... what did I tell you!
[8336] ... I said No!
Tony (PS0V4) [8337] He's getting cheeky.
Christine (PS0V6) [8338] [laugh] ... He's getting cheeky.
Mum (PS0V8) [8339] No!
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [8340] I don't understand that word.
Christine (PS0V6) [8341] Oi , oiA_011207.tmp, oi, off.
Mum (PS0V8) [8342] [laughing] Will by the time I've finished with him [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [8343] [laugh] ... Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8344] I seem saying it all the time.
Christine (PS0V6) [8345] Hello , hello, hello yeah you [...] ... I reckon that's what it is ... [laughing] Eh [] ... Look Windy I've gotta [...] here.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8346] Yeah we Christine he hasn't seen us lo
Christine (PS0V6) [8347] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8348] for a while and when he saw us last he was frightened and he's not now
Christine (PS0V6) [8349] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8350] so he's getting to know you now ... that's what it is.
Christine (PS0V6) [8351] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8352] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8353] It is.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8354] I remember you from last time, but
Christine (PS0V6) [8355] But I don't remember what you were like.
Mum (PS0V8) [8356] Yeah ... [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8357] Now that's your pep talk.
Mum (PS0V8) [8358] They get on alright like ... but
Christine (PS0V6) [8359] I'm not edible.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8360] Oh
Mum (PS0V8) [8361] Well don't take
Jackie (PS0V5) [8362] yes she is.
Mum (PS0V8) [8363] any notice
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [8364] we'll [...] on the other one.
Christine (PS0V6) [8365] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8366] Ah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8367] Are you on Fred's cushion?
[8368] ... Are you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8369] [laugh] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8370] He [...] ... I reckon he's [...] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8371] Going to sit down?
[8372] ... That bag smells of Ben ... mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8373] That bags quite old so it'll smell like a lot of things, it'll smell like ... school friends even ... Mum?
[8374] ... O if you never [...] it's quite a while ago but
Mum (PS0V8) [8375] Oi!
[8376] ... I told you to stop it!
Christine (PS0V6) [8377] Oh ... didn't mean no harm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8378] Go round this side then ... stands there holding her tummy [...] [laughing] You can see it can't you [] .

136 (Tape 011207)

Mum (PS0V8) [8379] But the truth to tell ... Sunday morning I went up and come in and Fred had his er ... cushion and Windy was ... [laughing] fallen across it []
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [8380] so I think tha ... [laughing] Windy's getting his own back now [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8381] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8382] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8383] We didn't do bad at all tonight ... seeing we were late.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8384] No we did quite well.
Mum (PS0V8) [8385] No he's always, Fred,thou you think of him as the policeman don't [laughing] you [] ... that John Thaw.
Christine (PS0V6) [8386] I thought he was the
Tony (PS0V4) [8387] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8388] policeman in there.
Mum (PS0V8) [8389] Oh yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8390] He's no trouble when he goes behind there ... you get and come over to play food don't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [8391] Yes.
Mum (PS0V8) [8392] [laughing] [...] [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [8393] Is he quite ... it ... course it's something you gotta gotta get used to haven't you really?
[8394] ... Cos he he'll get more [laughing] adventurous [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8395] You've gotta say no, very severely several times isn't it ... sort of just push him away so tell that ... that's all you can do really.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8396] Yeah ... oh he'll get the message eventually
Mum (PS0V8) [8397] Mm
Jackie (PS0V5) [8398] it's a
Mum (PS0V8) [8399] take a long time but I mean ... I know it says ... got well puppy mess to get over yet.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8400] Get over ... yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8401] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8402] I mean Ben ... now even now he has relapses ... I mean ... nine times out of ten you ca he ignores you when you [...] too much
Mum (PS0V8) [8403] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8404] and it he'll come up and just cuddle into the side of you without
Mum (PS0V8) [8405] side of you and not take any notice.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8406] taking any notice ... erm ... Mum will give him titbits ... occasionally ... and ... you've gotta work hard then to get him out of the habit of it.
Mum (PS0V8) [8407] Of it yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8408] Mum so ... to be a little bit weird.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8409] Mm ... it all looks a bit weird upside down cos I can't see out of my ... no that's fine.
Christine (PS0V6) [8410] Mm ... I'm just ... I'm just drawing a shadow ... don't worry I am going to shade it all in and I'm gonna
Mum (PS0V8) [8411] You can have some
Christine (PS0V6) [8412] blow the [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8413] You can have some branches that curl back down here too
Christine (PS0V6) [8414] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8415] they don't all have to go up.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8416] No.
Mum (PS0V8) [8417] They can curl back down here.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8418] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8419] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8420] Cos they won't all go up on a tree.
Christine (PS0V6) [8421] A few gaps ... maybe just a little bit coming out.
Mum (PS0V8) [8422] Mr Who? ... [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8423] Mr All!
Mum (PS0V8) [8424] I've started doing some card for that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8425] Oh.
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8426] We haven't got very many presents yet have we?
[8427] ... We really haven't got into it yet
Christine (PS0V6) [8428] [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8429] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8430] I ... we went out and we got er erm ... a suit so we were laughing
Tony (PS0V4) [8431] Mm ... we got off.
Mum (PS0V8) [8432] [...] did it?
Tony (PS0V4) [8433] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8434] Erm ... and we got
Tony (PS0V4) [8435] We got about ... two didn't we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8436] Sorry?
Tony (PS0V4) [8437] We got two ... two presents?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8438] Yeah ... buy two ... and that's it.
Christine (PS0V6) [8439] I'm
Jackie (PS0V5) [8440] So we've gotta get [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8441] I've gotta get a few for my girl ... girlfriends, but I mean ... just gonna get them a selection box ... and a ... chocolate ... sweets ... but er
Mum (PS0V8) [8442] Did you go up Sunday ... to the shops?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8443] Erm ... we washed the car in ... today, we ... we didn't actually go shopping, no.
Mum (PS0V8) [8444] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8445] Yeah ... we just ... really thoroughly did the car out ... but that's all we did ... we didn't go shopping.
Christine (PS0V6) [8446] You can get a straight twig without anything on it, can't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8447] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8448] Or you can have twigs with bits joining on together can't you?
[8449] ... They do vary.
Mum (PS0V8) [8450] They go all different ways ... twigs.
Christine (PS0V6) [8451] Yeah ... they vary.
Mum (PS0V8) [8452] They'll be like one another ha.
Christine (PS0V6) [8453] Mm ... and my art's not too good I'm afraid.
Tony (PS0V4) [8454] That's not bad.
Mum (PS0V8) [8455] What's wrong with your art my love?
[8456] ... Is it complications or what? [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [8457] Can't draw properly.
Mum (PS0V8) [8458] [laughing] The way she said my art's not too good [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [8459] [laughing] [...] ... [...] my art [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [8460] Funny ... yes really hilarious!
Jackie (PS0V5) [8461] [laughing] Well it sounded like it Christine [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8462] [laugh] ... Oh dear.
Christine (PS0V6) [8463] [...] ... [...] that twig joins there.
Mum (PS0V8) [8464] My art!.
Christine (PS0V6) [8465] No look at it
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [8466] I mean that is suppose to be a tree ... does not resemble a tree at all, you'd think it was a ... carrot!
Tony (PS0V4) [8467] Let's have a look.
Christine (PS0V6) [8468] Antlers!
Tony (PS0V4) [8469] These ... they don't
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8470] they don't ... join onto the trunk like that.
Mum (PS0V8) [8471] No they go up ... thick in thick ones and then come out from the
Tony (PS0V4) [8472] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8473] if it was me I'd draw a thick trunk and lots of lines [laughing] come out from it [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8474] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8475] You don't I mean you don't see a tree with a flat top with all the branches coming out do you?
Christine (PS0V6) [8476] Mm ... well I can't think of any other way to draw it though.
Mum (PS0V8) [8477] They come out it in ... thick ones and then ... the thick ones are on the ... thin ones are on the thick ones.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8478] Have you got an old piece of paper?
Christine (PS0V6) [8479] I'm terrible ... let me rub out the entire thing and start all over again, yeah?
Mum (PS0V8) [8480] Yeah it's the best thing, I find.
Christine (PS0V6) [8481] Here I go.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8482] And you ... branches ... start off ... what are you going to do?
Mum (PS0V8) [8483] And rub out.
Christine (PS0V6) [8484] All of that.
Mum (PS0V8) [8485] Yes, that's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8486] It'll be a mess
Tony (PS0V4) [8487] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8488] Christine.
Tony (PS0V4) [8489] No ... get, let ... start off ... yep ... on erm ... show you
Christine (PS0V6) [8490] What ... I've just rubbed it all out.
Tony (PS0V4) [8491] on a bit of paper.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8492] Yep I need a separate bit of paper.
Christine (PS0V6) [8493] Daddy I have in my bag can you get that out?
[8494] ... A little spotted bag.
Martin (PS0VB) [cough]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8495] I can't find a bit that [...] ... Give me the pencil and let me show you.
Christine (PS0V6) [8496] I'll get ... you'll have to go just go right to the back ... just at the back ... otherwise you're gonna be flipping through millions of pages.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8497] Okay.
[8498] ... Can I do it on there?
Christine (PS0V6) [8499] Yes ... yes okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8500] Look you start off and you've got ... your trunk okay?
Christine (PS0V6) [8501] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8502] What haven't you got ... you got two or three perhaps ... two big ones
Tony (PS0V4) [8503] Can you turn that up.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8504] coming off at the trunk ... see like that
Christine (PS0V6) [8505] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8506] and you [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8507] Oh I see what you mean now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8508] another one like that ... and then what happens is you've got smaller branches ... lots of smaller branches ... coming off of piece
Christine (PS0V6) [8509] Yeah and then it joins up together doesn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8510] and then you've got smaller branches coming off of the smaller branches
Christine (PS0V6) [8511] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8512] and it makes twigs.
Christine (PS0V6) [8513] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8514] So you've got ... an this this branch will keep going ... perhaps ... until it gets really tiny.
Christine (PS0V6) [8515] It's incredible cos all the little bits join together I mean what's that?
Tony (PS0V4) [8516] No ... they don't they cross over ... and they tangle up ... but once a branch starts off ... it doesn't join on to another one.
Christine (PS0V6) [8517] I didn't mean that ... I meant ... when you look at a tree it's sort of got
Tony (PS0V4) [8518] A cris-cross.
Christine (PS0V6) [8519] yeah sometimes you get a tree like ... with a little bit coming off the side
Tony (PS0V4) [8520] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8521] and then it's sort of joined together onto another branch and then there's a branch there.
Tony (PS0V4) [8522] No ... I don' know what you mean.
Christine (PS0V6) [8523] Er it's hard to explain I can't explain that.
Mum (PS0V8) [8524] As Daddy says once they come out they don't join onto another.
Tony (PS0V4) [8525] You see that one would sort of
Christine (PS0V6) [8526] Mhm.
Tony (PS0V4) [8527] carry on ... going and that one would go up behind it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8528] Look Christine if I draw it
Christine (PS0V6) [8529] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8530] as a diagram rather than as a tree.
[8531] Right you've got one branch
Christine (PS0V6) [8532] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8533] you start off with one branch like that
Christine (PS0V6) [8534] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8535] now that branch will divide into to two ... or you'll get one ... one bit coming off the side ... you might get another one up here
Christine (PS0V6) [8536] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8537] right?
[8538] So they're going to go [...] see then you get other branches coming off of that one
Christine (PS0V6) [8539] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8540] the same ... and other branches coming off of that one ... and other branches coming off of that one ... it's sort of gets smaller and smaller and is gets
Christine (PS0V6) [8541] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8542] so you ... you've got ... perhaps two off of there ... and then another one off of the side of there ... and as you go it gets ... it gets sl slightly smaller each time ... see what I mean?
Christine (PS0V6) [8543] Yes ... and it comes to just to to the
Jackie (PS0V5) [8544] to the
Christine (PS0V6) [8545] light one then you stop don't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8546] Yeah ... that's right ... see ... see what I mean?
Christine (PS0V6) [8547] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8548] It ge it you just sort of keep going until it ... stops [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8549] Right ... I'll clean that up and start again ... this is brilliant!
Tony (PS0V4) [8550] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8551] Have you seen that?
Mum (PS0V8) [8552] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8553] Mum?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8554] [laughing] Nun [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8555] [laughing] She can't find the stereo ... Oh lovely [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [8556] Pulling out one by one oh no ... ooh!
Jackie (PS0V5) [8557] The worse thing I've ever done is wax for my legs ... I did it once ... mhm
Mum (PS0V8) [8558] I never did it.
Christine (PS0V6) [8559] What happened?
Mum (PS0V8) [8560] Did it work then did it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8561] Yeah it literally ... it's like sticking a sticking plaster on your legs and pulling it off.
Mum (PS0V8) [8562] and tearing it off ... urgh!
Jackie (PS0V5) [8563] Only it holds onto the hairs so much that it rips them out ... so that you end up with ... legs with no hairs on it but ... ah!
[8564] ... It's best done very quickly. [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [8565] My legs have never been hairy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8566] Mine are the ... only ... actually they're not as bad as they used to be ... they need doing now but [...] ... [...] Daddy's [...] so they're not too bad.
Mum (PS0V8) [8567] No ... some people it if their hair's dark and it don't matter what length
Jackie (PS0V5) [8568] No.
Mum (PS0V8) [8569] of time ... they don't do it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8570] No mine aren't too bad really it's just that I don't like being [...] ... having said that I had one [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [cough]
Christine (PS0V6) [8571] Mum ... so there's my basic trunk, trunks aren't straight aren't they?
[8572] ... They never ... straight
Jackie (PS0V5) [8573] No.
Christine (PS0V6) [8574] straight, straight are they?
[8575] ... No not sort of ... bits sticking out ... Windy ... Windy ... hello darling.
Mum (PS0V8) [8576] Let her go.
Christine (PS0V6) [8577] He's beautiful ... good boy ... yeah ... are you a good boy? ... [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8578] Ben ... go round there ... can't wedge through
Christine (PS0V6) [8579] Hello darling.
Mum (PS0V8) [8580] oh ar alright then ... you've got him now!
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [8581] I'd be in quick ... Oh
Christine (PS0V6) [8582] [...] Windy
Mum (PS0V8) [8583] think he's a lovely cushion
Christine (PS0V6) [8584] cushion
Mum (PS0V8) [8585] ha ... hey ... he's got his cushion back ... Eh?
[8586] ... Got his cushion back ... ah ... oh Windy ... yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8587] They get them you can do sort of like
Mum (PS0V8) [8588] Oh Windy ... has he got his cushion back?
[8589] ... Oh dear ... That trunk divided into ... two or three different branches
Christine (PS0V6) [8590] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [8591] I see
Christine (PS0V6) [8592] it's sort of does ... that
Jackie (PS0V5) [8593] That's right ... [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8594] I think you need to make that a bit thicker ... so it divides into two
Jackie (PS0V5) [8595] Do you to as well or ... will he eat
Christine (PS0V6) [8596] I don't know what to do there.
Mum (PS0V8) [8597] I haven't tried to get one.
Tony (PS0V4) [8598] Yeah but there isn't a flat top it divides sort of in the middle
Mum (PS0V8) [8599] I don't know anybody [...] [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8600] Do see what I mean?
Christine (PS0V6) [8601] No I don't ... a flat top what you on about I haven't got
Tony (PS0V4) [8602] There isn't a flat top ... it divides ... sort of
Christine (PS0V6) [8603] Eh!
Tony (PS0V4) [8604] down the middle.
Christine (PS0V6) [8605] I see.
Tony (PS0V4) [8606] Yeah?
Christine (PS0V6) [8607] horrible [...] ... I gotta rub it out it's no good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8608] Yeah I suppose eventually you'll have to start giving him one won't you?
Mum (PS0V8) [8609] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8610] Cos otherwise er ... it's gonna
Tony (PS0V4) [8611] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8612] lose him.
Christine (PS0V6) [8613] I'm just rubbing it out a little bit to give me a bit more space
Tony (PS0V4) [8614] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8615] if you see what I mean, right ... I'll re-draw all that bit in a minute ... this is all gonna be sort of black.
Tony (PS0V4) [8616] Right ... so if you mark in where you want it to split
Mum (PS0V8) [8617] I wonder how he'll grow up.
Christine (PS0V6) [8618] Like that.
Mum (PS0V8) [8619] You got you you try it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8620] Ha ha ah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8621] Down the middle so put the pencil ... sort of in the middle
Mum (PS0V8) [8622] Come and have a cuddle.
Tony (PS0V4) [8623] and draw the ... the middle bit first ... do you see what I mean?
Christine (PS0V6) [8624] Mm ... like that?
Tony (PS0V4) [8625] Yeah ... and the other side.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8626] Yeah ... you don't
Tony (PS0V4) [8627] That's it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8628] wanna be grown up do you?
Christine (PS0V6) [8629] Looks like a waterfall ha ... then you just do a thicker one don't you?
Tony (PS0V4) [8630] Then you take that and taper down a bit ... and then it's gonna split again
Christine (PS0V6) [8631] And it can split ... like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [8632] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8633] Have you got used to the feel of him now?
Christine (PS0V6) [8634] And then does that go round like that?
Mum (PS0V8) [8635] I don't know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8636] Basically they feel ... just ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8637] Mm ... you split it down the middle again ... so that will go off that way and then that branch go that way ... see?
Christine (PS0V6) [8638] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8639] [...] [...] when Jack comes in from work ... ha ha.
Christine (PS0V6) [8640] Then
Tony (PS0V4) [8641] And then it splits again and splits again.
Christine (PS0V6) [8642] I can't split it again look at the size of that line ... I'm gonna have to ... oh yeah I see what you mean.
Tony (PS0V4) [8643] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8644] That's for my
Tony (PS0V4) [8645] See the branches get smaller and smaller and smaller.
Christine (PS0V6) [8646] yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8647] That's slightly nice.
Mum (PS0V8) [8648] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8649] I've got ... we haven't gotta do any leaves it's just an ordinary tree
Tony (PS0V4) [8650] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8651] of Autumn.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8652] A winter tree.
Christine (PS0V6) [8653] Yeah ... and then it goes ... up again, yeah?
Tony (PS0V4) [8654] Whatever you like dear ... it can bend round and
Christine (PS0V6) [8655] Whatever you like?
Christine (PS0V6) [8656] [laugh] ... it looks quite weird doesn't it?
[8657] ... Erm ... and I think I may do one in the middle of there ... and then leave that s like that.
Tony (PS0V4) [8658] But if you were to split that ... one and that one again can't you?
Mum (PS0V8) [8659] He's ever so stupid he'll
Christine (PS0V6) [8660] Oh alright then.
Mum (PS0V8) [8661] lie down with his head ... sideways on the floor and his bottom still up in the air.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8662] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [8663] No don't get thicker.
Mum (PS0V8) [8664] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8665] Ha?
Tony (PS0V4) [8666] Oh I see that's your
Mum (PS0V8) [8667] You're a daft dog baby
Tony (PS0V4) [8668] yeah
Mum (PS0V8) [8669] that's what it is ... cos you're still a baby really.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8670] Yeah ... oh it's lovely to see him not shaking and coming over to you.
Christine (PS0V6) [8671] Yeah, no ... mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8672] It's certainly made a difference to him in that four days.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8673] Oh yeah ... you're beautiful now.
Christine (PS0V6) [8674] You can't get any thinner than that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8675] Yes you are ... yeah ... you beautiful boy ... yeah
Christine (PS0V6) [8676] Can you, you can't get any
Tony (PS0V4) [8677] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8678] than that?
Tony (PS0V4) [8679] So now you can work on that one.
Christine (PS0V6) [8680] That looks weird ... Mummy does that look weird?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8681] No ... cos you'll fill it in with all the other ... branches
Tony (PS0V4) [8682] Cos you you fill it in
Christine (PS0V6) [8683] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8684] with other branches, you see.
Christine (PS0V6) [8685] Don't worry about the lines in the middle and things like that because that's ... it's all gonna be shaded in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8686] Give your tummy [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8687] So
Jackie (PS0V5) [8688] yes you are ... His tail now when it's down it's still down between his legs but it's li ... it's limp isn't it?
Mum (PS0V8) [8689] Yeah, it's not curled up under.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8690] No it was definitely pulled up under his
Mum (PS0V8) [8691] Yes ... it's just ... down.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8692] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8693] Hanging there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8694] Mm ... perhaps it'll go to sleep on his cheek.
Mum (PS0V8) [8695] Isn't that lovely that other hostage got out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8696] Oh yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8697] There's only two German ones there now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8698] Yeah, it's amazing really.
Mum (PS0V8) [8699] It happened so ... quickly hasn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8700] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8701] [singing] Yeah ... it's going
Jackie (PS0V5) [8702] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8703] it's going [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8704] It's we it's once the ball start rolling it
Tony (PS0V4) [8705] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8706] get's everybody out.
Christine (PS0V6) [8707] [...] [...] [] ... Oh I'm gonna split that once more I think.
Mum (PS0V8) [8708] Stand all that. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8709] I like dogs that sit like these [...] I must admit.
Mum (PS0V8) [8710] Yeah, so have I.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8711] [...] ... there's Fred then and Hipner and they all like being cuddled ... to [...] don't they? ... lovely ... Doesn't he look different to his other parts.
Tony (PS0V4) [8712] They needed to write
Mum (PS0V8) [8713] Yes, he does.
Tony (PS0V4) [8714] a bit more ... and start making a bit more
Mum (PS0V8) [8715] Oh yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8716] Three D ... mm?
Christine (PS0V6) [8717] Right ... yes
Tony (PS0V4) [8718] And how you can that you could draw ... imagine there's a branch
Christine (PS0V6) [8719] Mm.
Tony (PS0V4) [8720] growing out ... that way ... and then curving up ... see what I mean?
Christine (PS0V6) [8721] Yes I se ... sort of growing up and then
Tony (PS0V4) [8722] Mm ... but work so
Christine (PS0V6) [8723] like that
Tony (PS0V4) [8724] behind ... so it it's it's growing that way
Jackie (PS0V5) [8725] Are you gonna come down [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8726] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8727] No.
Tony (PS0V4) [8728] and then up ... so you scr draw it starting to coming up like that.
Mum (PS0V8) [8729] He's that bad in those.
Christine (PS0V6) [8730] Yeah or you can draw it
Mum (PS0V8) [8731] [shouting] Windy! []
Christine (PS0V6) [8732] going up like those
Mum (PS0V8) [8733] [shouting] Windy! []
Christine (PS0V6) [8734] on the bottom ... then
Mum (PS0V8) [8735] No!
Christine (PS0V6) [8736] up like that and as it goes up it gets thinner
Mum (PS0V8) [8737] [shouting] Oi! []
Christine (PS0V6) [8738] and thinner and thinner
Tony (PS0V4) [8739] That's right.
Christine (PS0V6) [8740] like
Mum (PS0V8) [8741] No, I do it
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8742] but I do it very ... artfully and turn my back.
Tony (PS0V4) [8743] It's that.
Christine (PS0V6) [8744] That ... so it looks as though it's going away.
Tony (PS0V4) [8745] Then you can split ... split it several times as well.
Christine (PS0V6) [8746] Oh ... mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8747] What did they tell you ... about Fred and me?
Christine (PS0V6) [8748] I reckon that looks really sort of weird ... I don't know why.
Tony (PS0V4) [8749] Well draw
Jackie (PS0V5) [8750] I don't know.
Tony (PS0V4) [8751] It'll look less ... the more branches you draw
Christine (PS0V6) [8752] Windy ... hello darling.
Mum (PS0V8) [8753] I'll talk to somebody else then.
Tony (PS0V4) [8754] the more real ... it will look like.
Christine (PS0V6) [8755] Yeah ... doesn't look
Tony (PS0V4) [8756] Come on.
Christine (PS0V6) [8757] too realistic at the moment.
Tony (PS0V4) [8758] Well you wanna ... split it as often as you can.
Christine (PS0V6) [8759] Mm ... you saw where he had his thing done.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8760] Mm ... slightly it's just a little so ... when he's head
Christine (PS0V6) [8761] Oh yeah
Jackie (PS0V5) [8762] just a little tiny [...] ... so that takes precedence
Christine (PS0V6) [8763] Oh my god!
Jackie (PS0V5) [8764] cos er ... it doesn't get in the way.
Mum (PS0V8) [8765] Ah! ... occupied isn't he?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8766] Yeah ... engaged [laughing] ... you had it [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8767] I'll talk to somebody else then.

137 (Tape 011208)

Tony (PS0V4) [8768] And he'll put up with being stroked as well.
Christine (PS0V6) [8769] [singing] [...] [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [8770] You can see how he suffered, walking in.
Tony (PS0V4) [8771] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8772] I mean if you always [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8773] He stands there for so long and his eyes start to close you know [laugh] ... it's sheer ... [...] blink and er
Jackie (PS0V5) [8774] Oh ... oh dear ... Wendy's dogs used to erm ... get on your lap and cuddle down
Mum (PS0V8) [8775] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8776] and ... they'd jump up on your lap and then very delicate jumping up although ... they're quite heavy
Mum (PS0V8) [8777] [...] and heavy.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8778] but when they crawl down in the hall they they're no bigger than
Mum (PS0V8) [8779] Oh no.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8780] you know ... [...]
Mum (PS0V8) [8781] I bet he couldn't get in the smaller ball than Fred can get ... you
Jackie (PS0V5) [8782] Yeah ... yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8783] He's determined to go back for that bag, aren't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8784] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8785] It's supposed to look like one of those cycling hats
Jackie (PS0V5) [8786] I know.
Mum (PS0V8) [8787] when he lies like
Tony (PS0V4) [8788] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8789] that.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8790] Yeah ... oh yeah.
[8791] [laugh] ... Well Windy's the legs are crossed and we're away ... just the legs crossed and we're away ... there you go.
Christine (PS0V6) [8792] There!
Jackie (PS0V5) [8793] He says no ... I don't like that.
Mum (PS0V8) [8794] [laughing] ... [...] crossed [] ... no.
Christine (PS0V6) [8795] Yeah, yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8796] Oh he's lovely.
Mum (PS0V8) [8797] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [8798] No well
Mum (PS0V8) [8799] She's trying to do something.
Christine (PS0V6) [8800] It's gonna take me ages, I thought it was gonna take me [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [8801] [laughing] Yeah [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8802] Know how to do it properly.
Christine (PS0V6) [8803] No ... I think what I'm gonna do
Tony (PS0V4) [8804] Have you drawn the ... haven't you drawn in another branch yet?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8805] [...] are you?
Christine (PS0V6) [8806] No I've been doing ... I've been doing
Tony (PS0V4) [8807] Oh right.
Christine (PS0V6) [8808] a bit of extending and
Tony (PS0V4) [8809] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8810] I've been doing all this ... that ... looks nice yes?
Tony (PS0V4) [8811] Yes it does.
Christine (PS0V6) [8812] Yes, non ... non ... alright non
Tony (PS0V4) [8813] Mhm
Christine (PS0V6) [8814] non doesn't look nice non.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8815] I makes you wonder when there is [...] up there and what's happened to them but this is what we said we found.
Tony (PS0V4) [8816] Mm.
Mum (PS0V8) [8817] But mind I'm surprised he was found strayed [...] ... [laughing] Nicole let him off the lead and he's gone phew! []
Jackie (PS0V5) [8818] Oh yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8819] [...] ... Is this all I'm gonna do, just these two sort of long things ... and that and then just do those branches there?
Tony (PS0V4) [8820] No you have to do draw another ... branch coming out of there and there and there and there and ... you know?
Christine (PS0V6) [8821] Yeah ... yeah I know what you mean.

138 (Tape 011209)

Mum (PS0V8) [8822] Little bit longer and he will be.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8823] Yes.
Christine (PS0V6) [8824] Oh ... ah.
Mum (PS0V8) [8825] Don't you think you ought to put your leg down [laugh] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [8826] [laughing] The way he sits [] ... look ... Ben ... yeah ... I love this bit, look.
Mum (PS0V8) [8827] Little bit of white [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8828] Apart from his chest he's ... the only bit of white on him, isn't it?
[8829] ... Oh no just a little bit of feet on
Mum (PS0V8) [8830] No, that under ... on his paws.
Tony (PS0V4) [8831] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8832] And [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8833] Yeah.
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [laugh]
Mum (PS0V8) [8834] Round his private parts.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8835] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [8836] Hello.
Mum (PS0V8) [8837] Hello ... yeah ... there's a good boy.
Christine (PS0V6) [8838] My o's ... gonna be a snake and I go right down ... look at that that's the last thing I'm gonna have to be able to do.
Tony (PS0V4) [8839] No.
Christine (PS0V6) [8840] And that ... I can't I won't go on my [...] if I did it going off it would go over there.
Tony (PS0V4) [8841] Mm that's alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [8842] No it looks ... it looks wrong.
Tony (PS0V4) [8843] It's alright, Christine.
Christine (PS0V6) [8844] I want he er ... I won't to do it down there it's out the way.
Mum (PS0V8) [8845] It's amazing how [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8846] No you you draw lower branches off the off here
Jackie (PS0V5) [8847] Just a few [...] [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8848] I'm talking about this bit.
Tony (PS0V4) [8849] Well that's right.
Christine (PS0V6) [8850] Yeah but shall I do ... a bit coming off here
Mum (PS0V8) [8851] That's still [...] now
Christine (PS0V6) [8852] like that
Tony (PS0V4) [8853] Yeah ... looks alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [8854] yeah ... yes
Tony (PS0V4) [8855] Just leave it like that.
Christine (PS0V6) [8856] That's what I'm saying!
[8857] ... Yeah you
Mum (PS0V8) [8858] Yeah you couldn't sort of get at any where near him to start with.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8859] No ... I know.
Christine (PS0V6) [8860] I'll do one branch coming out of there and that'll be it ... there you go.
Tony (PS0V4) [8861] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8862] I'll rub out one of these ... in the corner.
Tony (PS0V4) [8863] No you ... you don't have to rub out the line you can just draw ... another one as if it's coming out from a bit you can't see.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8864] I don't know whether that's shaking
Christine (PS0V6) [8865] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8866] just because it's up there or not cos it's on the only leg that is shaking [laughing] the others aren't [] .
Mum (PS0V8) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [8867] Mm ... it's probably shaking cos it's up there my leg does that sometimes.
Mum (PS0V8) [8868] Perhaps he don't realize he can put it down. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8869] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8870] You've got a branch like that
Jackie (PS0V5) [8871] Chris cos they're shaking our chests and that they can't be any [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [8872] branch like that
Jackie (PS0V5) [8873] roll over as well.
Christine (PS0V6) [8874] I
Tony (PS0V4) [8875] Alright?
Mum (PS0V8) [8876] Well he has rolled over.
Tony (PS0V4) [8877] And then you could have
Jackie (PS0V5) [8878] But I should imagine they were lying [...] and stay there
Mum (PS0V8) [8879] Well they were ... in front of the fire
Tony (PS0V4) [8880] something growing out ... the back
Mum (PS0V8) [8881] Oh yeah he doesn't [...] there
Jackie (PS0V5) [8882] You know he sort of
Mum (PS0V8) [8883] he thinks that we're all
Tony (PS0V4) [8884] again so you sort of
Mum (PS0V8) [8885] go go go goes back.
Christine (PS0V6) [8886] Yeah yeah I see
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8887] what you mean now ... I think.
Mum (PS0V8) [8888] [laughing] Look ... look at him [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8889] It's all gonna be shaded in in the end anyway ... so
Mum (PS0V8) [8890] [...] it Ben
Jackie (PS0V5) [8891] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8892] Don't make it too thin.
Christine (PS0V6) [8893] I'm gonna fill it in in a minute ... don't quite fit ... there you go ... okay?
Tony (PS0V4) [8894] Mm it doesn't really look as if it ... it's gotta be ... about that thick ... coming down ... do you see what I mean?
[8895] ... They're not ... not that thick but certainly that thick.
Christine (PS0V6) [8896] Oh.
Tony (PS0V4) [8897] Yeah?
Christine (PS0V6) [8898] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8899] And then divide down like the others.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8900] No I don't think that nerv that's nervous ... cos hi his front legs not.
Tony (PS0V4) [8901] Aha.
Mum (PS0V8) [8902] No it's probably er a reaction like you do if you tickle him in a certain place they go ... don't they?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8903] [...] ... Well he's definitely a cuddly dog isn't he.
Christine (PS0V6) [8904] So it goes like that
Tony (PS0V4) [8905] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8906] So why are they shaking like that? ... [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8907] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8908] Yeah ... odd!
Tony (PS0V4) [8909] And another one
Mum (PS0V8) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [8910] Like that?
[8911] ... And then I can do them ... yeah?
Tony (PS0V4) [8912] Alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [8913] Oh ... like what?
Tony (PS0V4) [8914] It needs to be thicker and that end.
Christine (PS0V6) [8915] I'm trying to do it thicker, I can't do it thicker!
Mum (PS0V8) [8916] No shapes now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8917] Sorry?
Mum (PS0V8) [8918] No shapes now.
Christine (PS0V6) [8919] I can't draw this.
Tony (PS0V4) [8920] You're doing fine!
Christine (PS0V6) [8921] No I'm not.
Tony (PS0V4) [8922] Just don't give up now.
Christine (PS0V6) [8923] Gotta colour all this in ... it'll take ages!
[8924] ... I
Tony (PS0V4) [8925] That's cos you're not getting
Christine (PS0V6) [8926] I'm tryi oh!
[8927] ... What do you think I've been doing!
[8928] ... Yes?
Tony (PS0V4) [8929] Yes.

139 (Tape 011210)

Tony (PS0V4) [8930] Oh it's cold innit?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8931] Yeah ... oh he's turning into a real dog.
Tony (PS0V4) [8932] [laughing] Yes ... I know what you mean [] ... He's not the nervous little thing he was.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8933] No ... and he'll get more used to it, I thought tonight was I was I pushing it too far when he started [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8934] Mm ... I've taken it off.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8935] but it wasn't it was just that he ... probably it was
Christine (PS0V6) [8936] Daddy ... guess what I got [...] for us?
Tony (PS0V4) [8937] What?
Christine (PS0V6) [8938] Guess.
Tony (PS0V4) [8939] Oh I can't guess.
Christine (PS0V6) [8940] Aha!
[8941] ... I got ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [8942] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8943] science ... and geography ... and I got art ... nice.
Tony (PS0V4) [8944] Mm ... [...] ... ah ... excuse me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8945] No see I must admit I wonder whether your Mum will find too much of a handful ... she's already telling him off a lot ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [8946] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8947] And I wonder whether she'll find bi erm
Tony (PS0V4) [8948] Cos he's quite tall he can stick his nose into things.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8949] And when when he gets to know us a bit better ... we got quite a welcome tonight.
Tony (PS0V4) [8950] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8951] With all things considered.
Tony (PS0V4) [8952] We did yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8953] When he gets to know us better we'll get a hell of a welcome when we go in.
Tony (PS0V4) [8954] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8955] I think.
Tony (PS0V4) [8956] That's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8957] Now we that's one little dog that I do want to get know.
Tony (PS0V4) [8958] Yeah ... well I think you made great strives tonight.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8959] [laughing] I know [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [8960] There it is.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8961] See Fred Fred knows us.
Tony (PS0V4) [8962] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8963] Do you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [8964] Aha ... oh excuse me.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8965] It's so long ... I don't need a map for some reason.
Tony (PS0V4) [8966] [laugh] ... Ah ... crafty! ... [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [8967] Everybody's seems to speed all of a sudden.
Tony (PS0V4) [8968] Yeah it ha
Jackie (PS0V5) [8969] Ha ha!
Tony (PS0V4) [8970] Ooh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8971] Your Mum is is really being foolish though with that dog ... she's got problems already ... he's wanting a chew and she's give him one she [...] not give him one to him, I haven't tried him with one yet she said ... she actually
Tony (PS0V4) [8972] Oh
Jackie (PS0V5) [8973] held him tonight while Fred eat his.
Tony (PS0V4) [8974] Mm ... no that's not good is it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8975] No you give one you give them both ... she
Tony (PS0V4) [8976] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8977] she'll have him pinching it off of Fred you see
Tony (PS0V4) [8978] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8979] eventually if er ... she's not very careful ... or they'll be a fight
Tony (PS0V4) [8980] Or they'll start
Jackie (PS0V5) [8981] cos they'll
Tony (PS0V4) [8982] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8983] fight over it.
Tony (PS0V4) [8984] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8985] New dog or not ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [8986] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8987] I mean ... it says in there about feeding them ... feeding with feeding th a dog you use your own common sense.
Tony (PS0V4) [8988] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8989] It's as simple as that, he's showing interest so let him have it if he wants it.
Tony (PS0V4) [8990] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8991] It's not gonna do him any harm ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [8992] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8993] The diarrhoea and that they're talking about isn't ... now it was when they first had him.
Tony (PS0V4) [8994] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [8995] Back last week.
Tony (PS0V4) [8996] Yeah it's o it would only be short term wouldn't it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [8997] Very short term, yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [8998] Mm.
Christine (PS0V6) [8999] Mummy?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9000] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [9001] Sorry?
Christine (PS0V6) [9002] These things you bought when you was [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [9003] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [9004] Do you think he's dead?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9005] I doubt it, no ... he's probably got too much of an idiot ... cos he shouldn't have let him off ... and he knows he shouldn't have let him off.
Christine (PS0V6) [9006] Oh Dad ... my [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [9007] Aha.
Christine (PS0V6) [9008] I mean it's to set this up, it's about maths
Tony (PS0V4) [9009] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [9010] she wants ... [...] about my maths ... he wants ... he's [...] ... so
Tony (PS0V4) [9011] Oh right.
Christine (PS0V6) [9012] I can't even tell you ... so it's in my time plan, I'll show you.
Tony (PS0V4) [9013] Okay ... It's intriguing.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9014] What's that?
Tony (PS0V4) [9015] Mrs passing a message to ... to us through the [...] time planner ... [...] like that
Christine (PS0V6) [9016] It's nothing bad it just says erm ... something like tell her ... about
Tony (PS0V4) [9017] Ah ... oh right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9018] Can you remember what it says?
Christine (PS0V6) [9019] No I can't [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9020] Well let us have a look when we get home.
Christine (PS0V6) [9021] Yes ... and then tell me.

140 (Tape 011211)

Jackie (PS0V5) [9022] Oh he's a lovely dog ... Oh I
Tony (PS0V4) [9023] Do you want me to stop it?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9024] I've just now been singing. [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [9025] Oh no! ... alright.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9026] Oh he's a beautiful dog though.
Tony (PS0V4) [9027] I'll finish ... I'll finish this tape then.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9028] I'm nearly done ... ha
Tony (PS0V4) [9029] Ha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9030] I reckon he's ... absolutely fantastic ... [...] that number plate it is drunk innit, it's not me?
Tony (PS0V4) [9031] Yeah it is drunk.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9032] Unless it's [...] ... [laugh] decided to
Tony (PS0V4) [9033] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9034] [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [9035] Yeah ... it's been bent.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9036] No it's all of it even the h and the w ... I think they might have lost some ... figures off of it at some time.
Tony (PS0V4) [9037] Oh ... I think we might call it a day at this with the tapes ... record this tape
Jackie (PS0V5) [9038] What how many
Tony (PS0V4) [9039] and then
Jackie (PS0V5) [9040] have you recorded?
Tony (PS0V4) [9041] Well that'll be eleven complete tapes.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9042] Oh well ... you gonna see if you can finish it off tomorrow?
Tony (PS0V4) [9043] Finish what off
Jackie (PS0V5) [9044] [...] tomorrow
Tony (PS0V4) [9045] tomorrow?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9046] Sorry?
Tony (PS0V4) [9047] Finish what off tomorrow?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9048] Well I wondered whether you were gonna try and do another one.
Tony (PS0V4) [9049] Yeah I could try and do ano could do another one tomorrow.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9050] You hear the [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [9051] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9052] It's screaming.
Tony (PS0V4) [9053] Can't hear it screaming.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9054] I saw him he was dying to do that ... go back
Tony (PS0V4) [9055] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9056] I guessed it.
Tony (PS0V4) [9057] [...] like that when you're doing fifty.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9058] Yeah ... and the best bit about it is ... I haven't started to indicate but it was still a dangerous place to overtake.
Tony (PS0V4) [9059] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9060] You know?
Tony (PS0V4) [9061] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9062] Stupid place to overtake!

141 (Tape 011212)

Tony (PS0V4) [9063] Next week I'm at Kingswood on Tuesday and Bishop's Grove on Thursday.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9064] I'm afraid you're gonna have to find your own way to Bishop's Grove.
Tony (PS0V4) [9065] Yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9066] After all this I've had with being late ... you know?
Tony (PS0V4) [9067] Yeah ... If I'd passed my test I wouldn't have driven there anyway.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9068] You wouldn't?
Tony (PS0V4) [9069] No ... don't know the way.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9070] Oh.

142 (Tape 011213)

Tony (PS0V4) [9071] Oh ... I've got a horrible feeling I've forgotten to put the milk in the fridge.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9072] Well we'll have a sniff at it and see what it's like.
Tony (PS0V4) [9073] No we won't.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9074] Why?
Tony (PS0V4) [9075] I'm talking about the milk that's in the training room.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9076] Oh ... has it ever occurred to you ... to take a bottle of milk in from home ... save going out to buy it?
Tony (PS0V4) [9077] Erm
Jackie (PS0V5) [9078] Do you think ... they
Tony (PS0V4) [9079] well it's cartons
Jackie (PS0V5) [9080] ah.
Tony (PS0V4) [9081] and they're easier to get rid of ... I'd have to bring bottles home again wouldn't I?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9082] Well yeah I suppose you would.
Tony (PS0V4) [9083] And I get the money back.

143 (Tape 011214)

Jackie (PS0V5) [9084] I'm quite pleased with how I got on at work today ... with the amount of work I'd done ... that
Tony (PS0V4) [9085] Good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9086] that erm ... stops ... see it?
Tony (PS0V4) [9087] No.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9088] It's he's gone by ... ran across the road and went down that
Tony (PS0V4) [9089] Oh.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9090] slope.
Tony (PS0V4) [9091] Did you erm ... oh you've still got your job description to do haven't you?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9092] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [9093] Must sort that out.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9094] What's the matter?
Tony (PS0V4) [9095] Just checking
Jackie (PS0V5) [9096] Oh thank you for that I was forgetting what it was.
Tony (PS0V4) [9097] Sorry
Jackie (PS0V5) [9098] It's alright I thought you were trying to cos of the door
Tony (PS0V4) [9099] I didn't wanna put you off.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9100] or
Tony (PS0V4) [9101] No ... I was just making sure the tape was still going.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9102] Probably would have been enough for them, but
Tony (PS0V4) [9103] It's not worth making the ... fighting your way through is it?

144 (Tape 011215)

Tony (PS0V4) [9104] lesson before my test
Jackie (PS0V5) [9105] Yeah
Tony (PS0V4) [9106] I'm driving along and there was somebody ... coming round ... and it was a bit narrow and so I hung back and let him come through
Jackie (PS0V5) [9107] Yeah.
Tony (PS0V4) [9108] and he pulled up next to me and he said ... wound his window down he said ah chicken! [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [9109] [laughing] What did you say [] ?
[9110] ... Were you annoyed or
Tony (PS0V4) [9111] No ... I think
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [9112] well I said I think he was pulling your leg. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [9113] [laughing] ... slightly! []
Tony (PS0V4) [9114] [laugh] ... you could have got through there ... you chicken. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [laugh]
Tony (PS0V4) [9115] Oh it's quite funny.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9116] Oh great ... I like that ... No we've seen a fo we saw a fox the other night, Christine didn't we?
Christine (PS0V6) [9117] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9118] It ran across the road, it even
Christine (PS0V6) [9119] You always see the foxes I never see them.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9120] Well when you're driving along you're looking a long way ahead that's why ... and anything that comes in the road you see it ... Oh I hope whoever was involved in that accident tonight was alright.
Tony (PS0V4) [9121] Yeah so do I.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9122] Urgh! ... turn that off.
Tony (PS0V4) [cough]
Jackie (PS0V5) [9123] It always makes me think because last time we saw an accident like that it was Penny ... you know what I mean?
Tony (PS0V4) [9124] That's right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9125] And you think oh
Tony (PS0V4) [9126] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9127] who else could it be that we know, you know?

145 (Tape 011216)

Christine (PS0V6) [9128] He let us off he said you two are supposed to get a late mark but I'll let you off this time ... three and we've got a detention.
Tony (PS0V4) [9129] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [9130] I bet we get
Jackie (PS0V5) [9131] [...] and I didn't buy any Tony.
Christine (PS0V6) [9132] Mummy ... I don't think it's such a good idea ... [...] ... for me ... to have a wash in the morning ... [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9133] Well I was saying to Daddy actually ... I it would be better if I got up first and went in the bathroom.

146 (Tape 011217)

Jackie (PS0V5) [9134] I said were you looking forward to a nice pear ... oh you've got them [laughing] have you?
[9135] ... I said yes [] .
Tony (PS0V4) [9136] Oh dear.
Christine (PS0V6) [9137] Mum this is supposed to be a silhouette ... it looks more like a black tree to me ... ha ha ... it's supposed to be a silhouette. [laugh]
Jackie (PS0V5) [9138] Well you haven't finished it yet.
Christine (PS0V6) [9139] No ... it ... it would have been better if you'd coloured it in in felt tip actually.
Christine (PS0V6) [9140] You can't it it just said a plain pencil drawing ... no felt tips ... no crayons.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9141] Where's these comments that you want us to have a look at.
Christine (PS0V6) [9142] Oh ... [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9143] Where's Ben ... only if he's locked out he'll be going hell ... like mad in a minute.
Tony (PS0V4) [9144] Okay ... I I'll let him in.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9145] Ooh.
Christine (PS0V6) [9146] Mum ... I don't know where it'll be ... there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9147] Can I have a look?
Christine (PS0V6) [9148] In the red.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9149] Yeah ... Tony.
Christine (PS0V6) [9150] Look at the red
Tony (PS0V4) [9151] Let's have a look
Christine (PS0V6) [9152] [...] now
Jackie (PS0V5) [9153] Chris ... no Chris has been encouraged to get help with her ... maths sheets ... no deadline ... so I think ... er ... that means
Christine (PS0V6) [9154] Yeah ... he gave me some more maths sheets to do.
Tony (PS0V4) [9155] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9156] You didn't even tell us.
Tony (PS0V4) [9157] So it's a question then of
Christine (PS0V6) [9158] Ow ... out!
Tony (PS0V4) [9159] nice way of saying if you want to help her with her maths sheets ... please do.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9160] Yeah, no it's a bit more than that I think it's a bit of a case of ... please help her with her maths sheets.
Tony (PS0V4) [9161] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9162] So fair enough ... we will
Tony (PS0V4) [9163] Yep.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9164] we are [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [9165] [...] on my face with my pants on [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9166] Christine?
Christine (PS0V6) [9167] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9168] Sweetheart ... I'm sorry but you're not
Christine (PS0V6) [9169] I know.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9170] doing that at quarter to eleven.
Christine (PS0V6) [9171] I know, I know, I know!
Jackie (PS0V5) [9172] It's too late, come on.
Christine (PS0V6) [9173] Can I just finish off the front I can do that tonight, [...] tonight ... please?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9174] [shouting] No! ... you shouldn't have even started it when you came in [] ... now come on get your coat off and get
Christine (PS0V6) [9175] Can I just do this little bit look just to the end of the branch.
Tony (PS0V4) [9176] [shouting] Christine! [] ... stop now!
Christine (PS0V6) [9177] [shouting] Just to the end of the branch []
Tony (PS0V4) [9178] Please!
Christine (PS0V6) [9179] [shouting] look [] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9180] Please no you shouldn't
Christine (PS0V6) [9181] I've stopped!
Tony (PS0V4) [9182] Stop ... now!
Christine (PS0V6) [9183] It's not fair ... just one little measly spot.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9184] Oi!
[9185] ... I know she's naughty anyway ... if it's recorded, that's her tackled.
Tony (PS0V4) [9186] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [9187] I've got three folders in my bag ... one ... one's this one, one's my home economics one and one's Becky's home economics one ... Becky didn't have enough room in her bag.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9188] Oh.
Christine (PS0V6) [9189] And I had enough room so I offered and I dropped it.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9190] [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [9191] I didn't do it on purpose, I didn't [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9192] I'll go in up there now ... then there's nobody else ... come here.
Christine (PS0V6) [9193] Okay I will.
Tony (PS0V4) [9194] [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9195] No alright I just don't want ... [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [9196] Oh no ... he's alright now.
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [9197] Ah ... [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9198] Good boy ... [...] filthy in ... [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [9199] Yeah ... maybe already [...] .
Jackie (PS0V5) [9200] Shh! ... [...]
Tony (PS0V4) [cough]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [9201] Windy ... what a name to give a dog!
Tony (PS0V4) [9202] Yeah I know.
Christine (PS0V6) [9203] Windy!
[9204] ... Sounds like something's gone wrong with the wind dunnit?
[9205] ... Windy!
Tony (PS0V4) [9206] Sound like he has a ... a distinct personal problem!
Christine (PS0V6) [9207] Ha what?
[9208] ... A what?
Tony (PS0V4) [9209] Sounds like he has a personal problem.
Christine (PS0V6) [9210] [laugh] ... exactly ... Windy!
Tony (PS0V4) [9211] Hello Ben.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9212] Poor dog ... I really do feel sorry for that dog.
Christine (PS0V6) [9213] Windy ... come here Windy ... am I smelling ... or do you normally call me that?
[9214] [laugh] ... That's what the dogs thinking.
Tony (PS0V4) [9215] Yeah ... good boy ... ooh yes ... there's a good boy.
Christine (PS0V6) [9216] Hello ... mm ah ... ha ha ha ... ooh [laugh] tell he likes that [] . [dog barks]
Tony (PS0V4) [9217] Yes ... hello.
Christine (PS0V6) [9218] Dad.
Tony (PS0V4) [laugh]
Christine (PS0V6) [9219] Dad, don't worry if Mum was telling me off ... will you [...] over ... will you?
Tony (PS0V4) [9220] Mm ... yeah alright.
Christine (PS0V6) [9221] No I got him ... I got
Tony (PS0V4) [9222] Mhm.
Christine (PS0V6) [9223] droopy draws ... the one that I wanted for ages ... droopy draws.
Tony (PS0V4) [9224] Aha.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9225] Oh you stinker.
Christine (PS0V6) [9226] Look don't [...] ... [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [...]
Jackie (PS0V5) [9227] Christine, Granpy buys these from a sweet shop, there's nothing wrong with them.
Christine (PS0V6) [9228] Mm ... I know I just ... ha ... I know there's
Jackie (PS0V5) [...]
Christine (PS0V6) [9229] nothing wrong with them ... I don't like them.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9230] No I know ... ooh
Christine (PS0V6) [9231] That's the only reason why I don't eat them ... [shouting] Ben ... whe hello ... alright, [...] ... [...] [] .

147 (Tape 011218)

Jackie (PS0V5) [9232] that one is is such a shame cos that's a lovely one ... but you smell it.
Tony (PS0V4) [9233] Mm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9234] It's out of the [...] fabric conditioner.
Tony (PS0V4) [9235] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9236] It's just too strong.
Tony (PS0V4) [9237] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9238] That'll do ... keep those ... those go with those ... I hope that'll fit I don't know ... my other one [...] erm ... that's fine ... but the other one was a bit bigger ... though ... just have to see.
Tony (PS0V4) [9239] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9240] Put it up here and then it'll grow alright, so ... [...] ... I've got the black one
Tony (PS0V4) [9241] Ooh sorry.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9242] up there and all of a sudden he saw it and he came in the room, Tony and he went ... he looked up at it and the [...] stood up at the back of his neck and he was going ... grurgh ever so quietly [laugh] under his breath ... grurgh.
Tony (PS0V4) [9243] Oh dear.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9244] In the end I had to get it down and let him have a sniff ... before he ... [...] .
Christine (PS0V6) [9245] Mummy?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9246] Yeah?
Christine (PS0V6) [9247] Can you [...] rubber bands.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9248] Which rubber band?
Christine (PS0V6) [9249] All the rubber bands [...] .

148 (Tape 011219)

Tony (PS0V4) [9250] Shall I put the bananas in the fridge.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9251] Yes please ... I'll ask Mum if she wants them actually.
Tony (PS0V4) [9252] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9253] You know what the theory behind that is if you keep that moist
Tony (PS0V4) [9254] Mhm.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9255] they don't go ... bad.
Tony (PS0V4) [9256] Oh ... [singing] bom bom bom bom [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [9257] Daddy [...] ... Daddy [...] ... Daddy ... look
Tony (PS0V4) [9258] Yeah.
Christine (PS0V6) [9259] look at all those.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9260] What happened to the [...] ?
Christine (PS0V6) [9261] see all the dolls I got, look
Jackie (PS0V5) [9262] They were on the coffee table in the front room and they've gone ... have you put them away?
[9263] ... Or have I put them away.
Christine (PS0V6) [9264] Where are they now?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9265] I know where they are ... it's alright.
Tony (PS0V4) [9266] I haven't
Jackie (PS0V5) [9267] No I've ... I've put them away I think.

149 (Tape 011220)

Tony (PS0V4) [9268] Oh Ben, don't do that!
[9269] ... He's standing right under me ... while I'm trying to ... make some tea ... as I'm pouring boiling water into the ... teapot and he's right under my legs.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9270] Yeah ... I really missed you not coming into work with me yesterday.
Tony (PS0V4) [9271] Ah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9272] Really odd.
Tony (PS0V4) [9273] Well I can come in Wednesday and Fridays next week.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9274] Yeah ... and what day is you're doing Kingswood?
Tony (PS0V4) [9275] Tuesday.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9276] Well I can take you in Tuesday can't I?
Tony (PS0V4) [9277] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9278] Because erm
Tony (PS0V4) [9279] Ah that'll be fine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9280] I can can't I?
Tony (PS0V4) [9281] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9282] Got to get Christine off to school first and then drop you straight up there.
Tony (PS0V4) [9283] Yeah.

150 (Tape 011221)

Jackie (PS0V5) [9284] Erm, your Mum wants her pears ... so if you put them in the fridge they'll be alright ... she said they were ... she picked out nice hard ones.
Tony (PS0V4) [9285] Right.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9286] So they're okay.
Tony (PS0V4) [9287] Okay.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9288] Yeah I said to her if you look up what they were I'll pay you for them and I'll have them if you like ... he's a real sweetheart ... he's a good boy ... yeah ... Look what I bought today Tony ... [laugh] .
Tony (PS0V4) [9289] God we've got enough bananas to sink a battle ship there.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9290] [...] ha ... I thought you'd find that funny.
Tony (PS0V4) [9291] Surprised at Christine.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9292] What?
Tony (PS0V4) [9293] Wanting to take an apple with her lunch.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9294] No I'm not ... really.
Tony (PS0V4) [9295] Think that'll be good.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9296] [shouting] Christine!
Christine (PS0V6) [9297] [shouting] Yeah?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9298] I bought a couple of bits for you to give as presents if you'd like [] .
Christine (PS0V6) [9299] Just a minute! []
Tony (PS0V4) [9300] Arghh!
Jackie (PS0V5) [9301] Your throat's a bit like that it's [...] .
Tony (PS0V4) [9302] Yeah it is a bit.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9303] Do you want peas or beans with yo peas cos we had baked beans last night.
Tony (PS0V4) [9304] Yeah.
Jackie (PS0V5) [9305] Oh dear!
[9306] ... Here we go again, ha.
Tony (PS0V4) [9307] You got rather a lot of beans.
Christine (PS0V6) [9308] Can I have an apple?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9309] Rather a lot of everything in tins, that's why ... don't know if my Mum was waiting for the invite today only ... I hope she's ... I wasn't bothered ... Oh that's nice.
Tony (PS0V4) [9310] What was?
[9311] ... Sunday?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9312] Yeah ... well we can still change our mind in any case can't we?
[9313] ... If we wanted to.
Tony (PS0V4) [9314] Yeah ... we've gotta do something about Christmas my love ... haven't we?
Jackie (PS0V5) [9315] Yeah but we've done some ... Your saying we've gotta do something about Christmas that's all I've been doing this week!
[9316] ... Chasing round doing something about [...] .