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13 conversations recorded by `Rebecca' (PS586) between 15 and 19 October 1993 with 9 interlocutors, totalling 7959 s-units, 67920 words, and over 5 hours 15 minutes 27 seconds of recordings.

11 speakers recorded by respondent number 201

KPVPS000	X	u	(No name, age unknown) role unspecified
KPVPS001	X	u	(No name, age unknown) role unspecified
KPVPS002	X	u	(No name, age unknown) role unspecified
KPVPS003	X	u	(No name, age unknown) role unspecified
PS586	Ag1	f	(Rebecca, age 19, student, Home Counties, )
PS5AF	Ag1	f	(Ann, age 19, student) colleague
PS6RW	X	f	(Anne, age unknown, lecturer) lecturer
PS6RX	Ag1	f	(Kitty, age 20, student) colleague
PS6RY	Ag1	f	(Inga, age 22, student, European (Serbo-Croat), ) friend
KPVPSUNK (respondent W0000)	X	u	(Unknown speaker, age unknown) other
KPVPSUGP (respondent W000M)	X	u	(Group of unknown speakers, age unknown) other

13 recordings

Tape 130301 recorded on 1993-10-15. Location: Twickenham ( classroom ) Activity: English language lecture
Tape 130302 recorded on 1993-10-15. Location: Twickenham ( classroom ) Activity: English language seminar
Tape 130303 recorded on 1993-10-15. Location: Twickenham ( classroom ) Activity: English language seminar
Tape 130304 recorded on 1993-10-16. Location: Twickenham ( friend's home ) Activity: friend's dinner party
Tape 130305 recorded on 1993-10-16. Location: Twickenham ( friend's home ) Activity: friend's dinner party
Tape 130401 recorded on 1993-10-16. Location: Twickenham ( friend's home ) Activity: friend's dinner party
Tape 130402 recorded on 1993-10-16. Location: Twickenham ( friend's home ) Activity: friend's dinner party
Tape 130501 recorded on unknown date. LocationGreater London () Activity: Unspecified
Tape 130502 recorded on unknown date. LocationGreater London () Activity: Unspecified
Tape 130601 recorded on 1993-10-15. Location: Teddington () Activity: chatting with friends
Tape 130602 recorded on 1993-10-15. Location: Teddington () Activity: chatting with friends
Tape 130701 recorded on 1993-10-19. Location: Twickenham ( classroom ) Activity: English literature seminar
Tape 130702 recorded on 1993-10-19. Location: Twickenham ( classroom ) Activity: English literature seminar

1 (Tape 130301)

Anne (PS6RW)	[1] Those people who have the record sheets from last week, ten, ten people that are doing work for the British National Corpus. [2] Erm, could you just put your hands up if you're doing recording for Corpus. [3] One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, who's the tenth? [4] You're all sharing [...] so who's, who's got their partners [...] ?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[5] We've got all partners here [crackling microphone]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6] So, who hasn't got their partner here? [7] So only nine people with their hands up.
Rebecca (PS586)	[8] Yeah, Jill, erm, [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[9] There're going to be ten of you. [10] Erm, are you happily doing it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[11] Yes. [microphone moved]
Anne (PS6RW)	[12] I've got some more of these sheets if anybody wants them [...] There are a lot of them on my door, and not very many of them are taken away.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[13] Mm.
Anne (PS6RW)	[14] Erm, so, if they are on my door. [15] They've been on my door since late [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[16] Yes.
Anne (PS6RW)	[17] If you want more of these ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [cough] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[18] [...] difficult. [19] [paper rustling] ... Really got to define what [...] mm. [20] [...] actual and description from different you know different conversations [...] to one complication.
Anne (PS6RW)	[21] Yes, I'm just about to give you an assignment sheet, those ten people. [22] Erm, and actually formalize the assignment, so people will see what you've got to do, if the others will bear with me for a minute or two. [23] But before I give you the assignment sheet, erm, how are you getting on? [24] Are there any, erm, unforeseen, erm, problems?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[25] Yeah [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[26] It's more difficult than I thought actually. [27] About background, like with most people, there's always something on in the background
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[28] [...] conversations [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[29] like the radio, T V and it muffles it all out. [30] So. [31] Got to try and talk without the T V on.
Anne (PS6RW)	[32] So th the problems were acoustics,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[33] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[34] rather than problems with remem remembering the tape recorder which [...] comes out, it
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[35] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[36] actually [...] so don't let's feel you haven't coped. [37] Any other problems? [38] Has, has anybody [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[39] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[40] No.
Anne (PS6RW)	[41] How do you all like, if you tell people, you know, without causing offence, do you normally tell people after you've done it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[42] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[43] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[44] And no doubt, everyone said fine. [45] Has it been [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[46] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[47] [...] by the time you've taped something, it's done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[48] Few.
Anne (PS6RW)	[49] Helen.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[50] I'm still on my first one, actually
Anne (PS6RW)	[51] Tape one of two. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[52] Two.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[53] Got one.
Anne (PS6RW)	[54] One, yes, right. [55] So you will obviously erm, if you can, try and do a bit more, because this time next week we're into [...] back. [56] Next Friday morning, I think you were all here when we were planning this, but just to remind you, next Friday morning, erm, somebody else is coming from the team in Harlow. [57] I don't [cough] know if it will be the same person. [58] To talk about transcription, and we will run that on a workshop basis, I hope. [59] [...] I'll try and look to sort of student access [...] [cough] erm, total theoretical [...] will have, erm, some of your own transcripts by then. [60] Erm, so could you all, including those people who aren't working on this project, bring erm, one of your tapes, because you're all taping the assignment, anyway. [61] You may not have got round to doing it yet, but bring something next week. [62] A a tape, and B a short piece of transcription. [63] It may not be the bit that you're going to eventually use for your assignment, because you're a bit unsure [...] taped up your assignment, but bring a short transcription, at least one side of A four, because if you do that, you will, if you've given yourself a chance of actually trying it out, you will begin to see the problems and [...] and the whole thing will be much more interesting and more rewardable. [64] If I'm boring this time, you haven't tried it, but if you, if you can do it then erm, it'll be a really interesting session, of sort of getting together in groups and discussing the problems and sorting ways out of problems. [65] So let's be free ... at least one tape erm, at least, at least one side [crackling] based on the tape. [66] And have your tape wound to the place that you've transcribed, so that, if necessary you will be ready to replay the bit that you can't transcribe it, to the others, or to one of us, erm, to explain why you can't do it. [67] Erm, we won't say too much about transcription systems at the moment, erm, just do, do it according to what you think are the most important bits to get down onto paper. [68] When you're trying to write down speech, you can see that there are all sorts of problems initially, of how much you write down. [69] And, all of you will probably make different choices. [70] Do you write down, for example, the pauses, and if you write the pauses, do you try and write how long they are? [71] And what, erm, decided you to use the pauses. [72] Do you try and write down hesitations? [73] ... And if so, how do you write them down, what, what, how do you spell a hesitation? [74] The ers and the erms. [75] How do you [laughing] spell that [] ? [76] Do you want [...] spelling for all hesi hesitations,ju ju ju just to show that somebody's hesitated? [77] Or do you want to show exactly how they've hesitated? [78] All these sorts of things are going to be the sorts of things that we'll bring up in discussion, but you won't realize what the problems are until you tried doing it. [79] Today we're going to try
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[80] Has anybody actually found [...] writing it all out because as soon as you do, you'll be faced with hundreds of choices. [81] Do you just do it like a school dictation in French, writing down the words, with conventional punctuation. [82] Full stops at the end. [83] Or do you try and put in all these extra things like pauses, hesitations, intonation,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[84] rhythm, stress ... you can go on, getting so detailed, that it, as St Steve said last week, you can spend sort of half an hour on half a sentence, if you put it, if you try to put in everything. [85] That's obviously unprincipled. [86] So you got the whole spectrum of, or if you're just doing it like French dictation, it won't, if words tend to just, to just be spoken language, right through to an immensely detailed erm, attempts to put everything down, including tone of the voice, and all these other ones which are extremely difficult to [...] ... I think you noticed that I was standing looking at the transcriptions [...] near each team. [87] And you listen to the voices. [88] If you read the transcription first, there is only a very small proportion of the actual information get right to the [...] . [89] Erm, totally missing, really is the voice quality, which is a, one of the main ways in which we judge somebody's character, isn't it? [90] And, so would you want to put some more of that in, and erm [...] all these, all these things, as I've said, will help you to, to speak. [91] [crackling in background] So, everybody you're looking at.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[92] Mm.
Anne (PS6RW)	[93] Sorry, what about, erm, so people have been taping,th actually it's ten people.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[94] Mm [clears throat]
Anne (PS6RW)	[95] Erm, you've apparent problems of lack of clarity, well that's absolutely normal erm, but they've built into the system. [96] Erm, what, erm, also ... you haven't had a problem with being rejected. [97] Have, have you had a problem of remembering to turn it on, remembering the batteries [...] [cough]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[98] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[99] It's quite difficult to tell how much tape's gone, if you got [sigh] that much tape left, you think you can get more conversation on and you can't. [100] It's difficult to judge the [...] especially when the person that you [...] for by someone just popping round and picking something up and they stay for ages, [laughing] and they didn't know I was taping and then [] something clicked up in the middle of it. [101] But I mean I lost half the conversation, they wondered what was going on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[102] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[103] Yes, it would have been quite useful to have given that tape as some indication on that little diagram on the tape recorder, about a minute or, they're all standard tape recorders, how much measure, how much is it in terms of time, a minute of your tape is ten minutes [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[104] And also of course, a, a, a problem that you can't solve is, you never know in advance how long a conversation's going to be. [105] Can you? [106] So you may think you've half a tape left, which is, should be ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[107] Fifteen minutes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[108] No, forty five minutes.
Anne (PS6RW)	[109] Forty five each side. [110] Erm, even if you know how much time you've got left, you never [...] how long they're going to talk for. [111] I think they're bound to respond to that, I mean, as you turn it over and keep going on. [112] So that's cer certainly a problem. [113] Any other things that we can, perhaps solve? ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[114] So it's easier than ... you said it's more difficult than if you want to get clear recordings.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[115] Yeah, somebody said that, it's alright now, though.
Anne (PS6RW)	[116] That's, well, that's good, well, there aren't any other problems that we need to talk about now. [117] Erm, good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[118] [...] got something [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[119] Was it, were you there when erm, Steve was saying that he would leave behind with me a recorder's [...] programme.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[120] No.
Anne (PS6RW)	[121] Erm, tell me if I'm repeating it, because I have said it to a couple of other groups I know, especially the Wednesday group. [122] So tell me if I've told you this before. [123] That he did leave behind a after lunch, when you, after you'd gone, a couple of very useful disks. [124] One was the disk erm, which actually held about [cough] erm, three hours' worth of conversations straight from the corpus er banking, er composition. [125] So that we have got a disk which we can put into the machines down there in the computer room, a whole lot of transcriptions that they've already made. [126] They are all based round one person, one speaker, somebody called Fred [...] . [127] He lives in Croydon, erm, he's old, so we've got quite a lot of [...] conversation. [128] [...] I think he's seventy five, he's retired. [129] But you got conversation with him and his family [crackling microphone] two generations of his family at his house perhaps in Croydon. [130] Erm, with his brother I think from Hemel Hempstead, erm, and a lot of pub conversations, in a pub called The Lion in Croydon, with erm, I think it must be an ex-girlfriend. [131] It's quite suggestive kind of conversations, especially for a seventy five year old. [132] [laughing] Quite suggestive [] . [133] And, and, it's all very very spontaneous and really quite quite nicely done. [134] Erm, when I really learnt to use this myself, in the computer room [cough] [...] go along there for, half an hour one Friday, and have a look at it, because you might, in your second assignment possibly like to, to use this data in some way. [135] Look at it. [136] I've got transcriptions, I've got printouts as well. [137] Erm, but use it in order to look at ready made conversations in order to collect [...] . [138] So you can get these conversations up on computer screen, all of them, and you can pick them out [...] . [139] Well, that doesn't sound too exciting, because basically you're ending up with transcripts, well, ready made transcripts. [140] Erm, but as I say it's a good thing that you're doing yourselves. [141] Just more of the same. [142] The interest on this, is that he also left a second disk. [143] And that is, now did he mention that or didn't he, or did I [...] because [...] . [144] Do you know what [...] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[145] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[146] No.
Anne (PS6RW)	[147] Right, well, this is the interesting thing, in a way, that bring, you might, very well like to go and play with them in the computer room. [148] Some time, anyway, [...] set my work. [149] Erm, you, this is the second program, it's relative with the conversations, and relative with the recording [...] as well. [cough]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[150] Well it can access all the words, er, on the disks. [151] So if you wanted to look for example, at hesitations, and try to do an analysis of where he had hesitated and why he hesitated, who hesitates more than others. [152] Just to take an example. [153] You type it on your computer, erm, say er, or erm, or other hesitation markers, that you will predict will mark hesitation, and on your scr you type this on the keyboard, and on your screen, you will get a whole list of [cough] places where this is used with the beginning bit of the sentence, and the end bit of the sentence, and all the ers will be listed down the middle of the screen, with the line numbers, here, so you can check back to where it comes from. [154] So that you may find that all the hesitations are by women, or most of them by women, or most of them are in the pub, or most of them are a after ten at night, or ar you know, you can look at the context in which certain words, certain conversational gambits that some of them use. [155] And it's a very quick and very interesting, [...] by comparing data [...] and looking at what you've got. [156] Because obviously you could do this by hand, you could do it by [...] it took ages and could be very boring. [157] You can get it spaced up on the screen, and you can print it out. [158] Erm, I don't know whether you can think of any other words that would be use useful but erm, if you weren't looking at hesitations, you might look at erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[159] Perhaps use the first names and put out the meaning of the first names of the ...
Anne (PS6RW)	[160] Yes, that would be quite interesting, wouldn't it, when we talked about some forms of address. [161] Wait, I've got an instant who's taking part in the conversations and you could type in the first names of those people and then again you'll get back some why the use of the first name. [162] Which would surround the context and you'd be able to see when people, the real [...] first names. [163] Erm, perhaps those aren't very [...] of examples, but, I think you can see, that there are enormous scope for erm, looking at a large amount of language. [164] They're very economical, and very interesting way of [...] . [165] So as I say, [laughing] when I've got erm, actually to know [] how these [...] reference disks work, then I'll be able to use them and talk. [166] We will then look at [...] thousand and one bits and see what effect and follow that up. [167] And next year's student, or even next term's, perhaps, depending on how quick you do it, your conversations, what you're doing now, once they're transcribed and put onto disk would be very interesting, because we'll have a disk from our St Mary's [...] students, transcribed, because Steve promised he would get them all transcribed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[168] And they would go on disk [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[169] And ... but he can get them on to a disk.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[170] Oh, God, don't want mine on a disk. [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[171] Well, [laugh] if you don't want them on, that's the whole problems of [...] obviously saying, erm, in fact, we don't, if we don't want them on a disk at all, we don't have to have them. [172] But I think this would be a very useful, erm, useful thing, because we'll have all your conversations on a disk and we'll be able to record and explain too, looking at typical seminars
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[173] erm, and all the other contexts and situations that you've recorded. [174] Don't forget that when it's transcribed, when it's professionally transcribed, all the names will be changed, so you'll all be anonymous. [175] [laugh] That's part of the system. [176] They, they shouldn't be erm, identifiable, because the names and the addresses, telephone numbers, anything that helps you to identify an individual, will be changed. [177] Erm, but, but think that out, because the, your reaction then was interesting. [178] Perhaps in a way, if you feel that it's going to be too revealing to have this ... [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[179] Don't they keep [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[180] We, we needn't do it, it just seems to me that it would be [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[181] Like with the names [...] do they the [...] personal?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[182] Names were changed, [...] to protect the innocent.
Anne (PS6RW)	[183] Yeah, all the names would be changed, all the, all the names will be changed, automatically. [184] He said that that's part of the transcription system.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[185] So in fact, erm, on the disk that we've already got Fred isn't really Fred it's Char it's a substituted name.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[186] Unless you name drop in the conversation, that's the only ... thing that might be a bit revealing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[187] Mm.
Anne (PS6RW)	[188] What do you mean, if you refer to somebody?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[189] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[190] Well, that would also be changed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[191] Oh, really
Anne (PS6RW)	[192] All, all proper names with capital letters, would be changed for [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[193] Oh, right.
Anne (PS6RW)	[194] Erm, would there be anything else on your tapes that might give the game away? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[195] Yes. [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[196] Well, think about that. [197] This obviously isn't going to come up as an issue for quite a long time, since transcribing this'll be a long time. [198] But ... I think what, perhaps the, the best thing to do is when the transcriptions come back, and this may not be till the summer ... because it is a very long long process, when they come back, they will all go back to the person who made them [...] ten people. [199] And if you don't want to be put onto [...] list, censored, because obviously, that's very important to [...] what would happen there if you want it preserved. [200] But if you don't want it preserved, I think it would be [...] so nice to have in college, if only for next year's students, and you also would be around for the next two years, I mean [...] if you're doing, if you're doing a language erm, option next year, [...] or even a language recitation erm, this would be quite nice material to use for that. [201] Cos you will be around to, to, to make use of it at home. [202] [cough] Anyway, so much for that ... Assignment sheet ... I'll give this to all of you, because [cough] I wouldn't, I don't want to be unfair. [203] If you think that this assignment is, is sort of preferable to the ones that you've been looking, you could all choose this one, you'll have to do some recording like the others on your own machines, but you could [...] [handing out papers]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[204] [...] have we still got to do two thousand [...] ?
Anne (PS6RW)	[205] No, hang on, no hang on. [206] No, I'll change the length for those people who are doing a lot of recording. [207] And there's more transcribing. [208] So listen very carefully. [209] [shouting] Listen, listen very carefully [] shh, because this is important to get right, erm, because the assign because the assignments are part of your degree mark, and have to go to the external examiner, and has to be monitored etcetera etcetera etcetera, it's all quite formal and so we do need to get this right. [210] I, I've got to have something from you ten people, you ten recording people because, because it's reasonably erm, represented, like, I can't give it, in other words I can't give you a chance to explain this as much as I would like to, because it's not fair on the other people. [211] And it's also, but not fair on you or me, because I felt, the guilty, you know, we won't be, we all do it. [212] There won't be any depreciation. [213] Some people won't do anything less than the others. [214] I've got to have something that I can mark, to the representative marks that show your, your ability and how much you've put into it. [215] Erm, so, supposing you're all doing this. [216] You don't have to, but supposing you all choose this. [217] Let's put two columns.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [blowing nose]
Anne (PS6RW)	[218] The British National Corpus [blowing nose] those ten people were doing British National Corpus and the others. [219] I'll write down any differences on here and make sure you write them down at the end. [220] Transcription ... this project is based on a study of recording two, that wouldn't apply to all of you, should involve [...] recording itself, audio cassette. [221] The others can [...] them from that. [222] You can't, because you are doing audio cassettes for the erm, audio [...] . [223] [cough] And your transcription of two to three set of minutes of talk. [224] Erm, a transcription [cough] two to three minutes, you can do a short transcription. [225] The Corpus people, you're going to spend much more time doing on the art of transcribing. [226] So you'll have five minutes to do some. [227] He's put at least five minutes, five minutes plus. [228] At least five minutes of transcription, erm, which you'll learn to do next week on Friday. [229] Now I'll put a line to do a transcription [cough] [...] transcription goes in an appendix, put your transcription at the back of your work, in according to Appendix A and number the lines, so that you can refer to them in the body or wherever. [230] You'll find ten as an example of whatever. [231] Temptations are particularly evident in lines sixteen to seventeen etcetera. [232] It saves a lot of time to change numbers. [233] You should follow your transcription with an exclamation [cough] [...] if used to indicate stress intonation, pauses, local effects etcetera etcetera etcetera. [234] Er, in other words a key. [235] So everybody [cough] [...] put in a general key. [236] A transcription is a key. [237] And this explains what you'll do next week. [238] Don't worry about the key because that's just what erm, [...] discussing, next time.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[239] [...] if you go into appendix as well.
Anne (PS6RW)	[240] Yes, let's call between appendix two, just to make it absolutely cut and dried. [241] Right, Appendix A transcription and Appendix B was [cough] [...] . [242] Erm, you can use ordinary spelling, you probably will use ordinary spelling, or phonetic transcription, this may be for short sections. [243] That's entirely optional, we'll talk again about that next week. [244] [...] a transcription you remember last year, we had about one week on phonetics, and John , some people came to the John talk, where we didn't really talk about phonetics script there. [245] Phonetic script is something that people usually, fills people with horror, so don't worry about it. [246] Some people, there are always a few people who, who love it. [247] Who like playing with it. [248] But there are very few, so that's optional. [249] It is very useful, if you're trying to write down something like accent, say northern accent, would be, but would sound in words like cook, [clears throat] there's no way of really doing that unless you use phonetic transcription. [250] But, erm, you may not, you may not want to do that. [251] Erm, but so give, give a brief note to justify your choice, and use transcripts or you haven't because ... that's at the end of your [...] . [252] That's, that's the next [...] . [253] Introduction ... your introduction should explain briefly why you chose to analyze this particular sample. [254] [cough] You people, the Corpus people will have a large sample by then, you'll have a lot to choose from. [255] So just put a paragraph in, saying why you've chosen this particular bit, and in fact, all of you can do that. [256] The introduction will be same for all of you. [257] Explaining your choice [cough] [...] this conversation especially interesting. [258] Erm, do a general account of recording material indicating its source and giving background information. [259] But when I say recording material, I just mean one conversation that you're, you're transcribing. [260] If you were to do, if any of your transcripts in lots of little bits.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[261] No.
Anne (PS6RW)	[262] So I just want two, two to do two comparing tape. [263] Got two conversations of different people but they
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[264] They vary in interest [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[265] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[266] Okay. [267] Right, don't don't make it too bitty. [268] I'm just thinking if you did lots and lots of little bits, I think you'll find it quite difficult to make the rest of it coherent. [269] If you've got something that's crying out in comparison about two labourers or two women or whatever.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[270] Yes. [271] But that would be two and a half minutes each, roughly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[272] Between two and three [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[273] Erm, so, this material, whether it's one longer bit, or two shorter bits, it's up over there. [274] Do you have any indication of its source, and say something about the background of people. [275] What kind of things will be important for the background to mention it do you think?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[276] Age.
Anne (PS6RW)	[277] Age.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[278] The relationship with them.
Anne (PS6RW)	[279] Relationship.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[280] The setting [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[281] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[282] In fact, all those, yes, all those, I did briefly mention all those things on the diagram er that we had before. [283] You could do this, erm, [...] you could photocopy
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[284] Introductions
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[285] [...] introductions.
Anne (PS6RW)	[286] Source, the background
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[287] The background information.
Anne (PS6RW)	[288] These things here, could be, you could photocopy these, the diagram that you've all got. [289] Erm, maybe photocopy it a bit smaller. [290] So that you've got an A four size. [291] Or even, even try to get perhaps, piece, a piece of A three paper. [292] I'm just trying to think of a clearer economical way of putting it. [293] Perhaps a double size piece of paper you can fold in your [...] and then put the diagram in the middle, photocopy it, and stick it on, glue it on, the diagram. [294] And then you could put arrows round the outside, for comments that you might [...] conversation, erm, conversation A and B, if you're doing two. [295] Then you would need two of the [...] , two of these sheets if you were doing two conversations, but only one if you've done one. [296] And then [...] say, for example, the thing over here was, something like bystanders, wasn't it, on the left hand side. [297] So you could just [...] all out in rhyming prose which takes a long time. [298] A lot clearer could be erm, let's say bystanders, [...] bystanders three, two of whom were half listening. [299] Erm, just a short note, if you see the big [...] lot of [...] over there, and er, I think it would have been probably easier trying to describing it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[300] Is that Appendix C?
Anne (PS6RW)	[301] Erm, well I put it at the [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[302] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[303] You [laugh] it's in the introduction here. [304] You could have an instruction [blowing nose] full details of the situation are given in Appendix C. [305] Or you could put it into your introduction depending on which way you feel it is to handle. [306] So, is that clear? [307] Introduction, why you've chosen to, to analyze this sample, and what is a source on the background information. [308] Indicate the focus of interest in the approach you intend to take. [309] I'll come back to that. [310] [...] . Next, the body of your essay. [311] Analyze your material by means of selected description of interesting and significant features of material transcribed. [312] With reference if necessary to features, in the rest [...] transcribe it. [313] Recording. [314] And conclusion, comment on the insights of your final analysis. [315] [...] The body, shall I say. [316] The other people who are [...] two thousand words. [317] And follow this thing about the body in your essay. [318] So that you want to say exactly what is interesting and significant to you too. [319] So you pick up these things. [320] Once you've done this, pick out the things that you think are significant. [321] The bystanders may not be significant. [322] There may be two bystanders, but they really, you don't think they made any particular difference to the way the conversation went, so you might pick out relationships in general, or topic, or something else, but pick out the things that you think being significant in the conversation, and describe them. [323] In some detail, because you've got two [...] to do it ... I think that's all. [324] And then, conclude by what have you learnt about the talk, [...] make sure the [...] and then the appendix should include your transcription which a key. [325] There's one not, not in there, not for example, the book you've already got tells you [...] transcription and submit your tape round to the position at which your transcription [...] two thousand words. [326] So really Harlow do not do Corpus or at least were not aware of it. [327] If you are doing a lot of work [cough] reports, you're going to do a longer transcription, and the transcription's going to [...] , cos you've got to make sure that your transcription's according to the basis of [...] consistent in its way around. [328] It's useable by [...] it's going to go into the, the archives for public consumption. [329] So the trade lock for this extra transcription is if you do more than, or if you do a lot, erm do the same introduction, but your essay, the body of your essay, erm, can be very short, the body of your essay, erm, about [...] one paragraph only, you're just going to need to do something quite short, and your conclusion on the insights is what, is what is going to be important [...] . [330] Okay, so that's, that's short. [331] The main body of yo the work wo with Corpus will be doing more of the transcription and linking up with what insights have been found about ... transcribing. [332] Any facts about transcribing [...] finished [...] . [333] And the whole thing can be shorter, one thousand [...] . [334] I don't think you should have so much, and I'm not going to count, so I'm not going [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[335] You'll obviously want to make it, you don't want to make it too short [...] you're going to have enough words to get yourself a good mark.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[336] So you can wr do more transcribing. [337] Even if you're doing more recording, more transcribing, [...] nicely. [338] The writing will have a different focus. [339] Insights about the, the actual recording and transcribing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[340] [whispering] Transcribing [] .
Anne (PS6RW)	[341] Erm, [...] fact clear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[342] Yes. [343] [...] in saying, erm, we in fact, you know, backup our [...] transcription. [344] Erm, [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[345] Mm. [346] Yes, the more you can do, the better it gets. [347] Yes, do use, you need a bibliography, all of you need a bibliography so you can make comparisons [sneeze] what other people have found, so to read round before you do [...] but erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[348] If you balance, tape recordering , but, but you notice one particular piece that you would rather do an essay on rather than that bit there. [349] Can you do the other one? [350] If takes it [...] to transcribe it, can we still write the essay? [351] Rather than do this. [352] You know what I mean? [sneeze]
Anne (PS6RW)	[353] Well, yes. [354] Do the essay on the left,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[355] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[356] to be transcribed on the right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[357] Even though?
Anne (PS6RW)	[358] Erm, I think it would be a pity if you did that, because we got all this, you know, equipment and stuff, if you don't, why do you think it might be [...] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[359] Transcription gonna take ages to type.
Anne (PS6RW)	[360] Erm, right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[361] [...] days.
Anne (PS6RW)	[362] No, I don't think it'll take days. [363] Because conversations are usually quite slow, and to, and there will be a lot of pauses ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[364] It is difficult to guess how much transcription is needed. [365] I think maybe [cough] what I'm going to do with transcriptions again. [366] Cover the variations in speed, I'm going to try and define it in pages rather than speed, because finding it difficult is speed, [...] whereas if you got a sl a slow speaker there are longer pauses and hesitations. [367] This is going to be a lot more [...] erm, let's call it two pages and five pages. [368] A four pages. [369] Erm, and I've no idea the time [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [everyone talking]
Anne (PS6RW)	[370] Let's change it to pages. [371] Because, it is, I think that's much fairer than doing minutes, cos you still get the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[372] Do you mean pages as in both sides, or sides?
Anne (PS6RW)	[373] Sides, sides.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[374] Right.
Anne (PS6RW)	[375] So there are [...] sides. [376] Sides, two sides. [377] So would it very boring just to go through this again? [...] confusion. [378] I'll just go through this again, because it's, you know, two different groups. [379] [cough] Who's not doing this? [380] Who's not doing the Corpus? [381] Two thousand words, you can use video if you want to. [382] That's audio. [383] You can tape it off the television or the radio for that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[384] [whispering] That's if you want to []
Anne (PS6RW)	[385] Your transcription is shorter, cos they're two sides. [386] Your key is the same. [387] You do your introduction at the back, with why you've chosen this as background. [388] Why you've chosen this bit, and what is the background. [389] And then you just follow through with the introduction at the end. [390] [...] [cough] Corpus books, do also essays, many use audio, your transcription is long, let's see either side.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[391] Yes, it's the whole thing,
Anne (PS6RW)	[392] I think he'd
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[393] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[394] The introduction, why you've chosen this particular conversation. [395] Then, just a little bit about the background. [396] Or what you found about the conversation, but your completion is mainly about the insights of doing this erm, transcription. [...] [lecturer still talking, but incoherent above the following conversation]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[397] [whispering] No actually, it can't be, can it? [398] [...] I don't think it does count.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[399] It doesn't, it doesn't
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[400] It's in the appen it's the appendix at the back
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[401] Mm, you gonna ask her
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[402] I'll ask her [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[403] Erm, is this something to [...] ?
Anne (PS6RW)	[404] No, [...] if you can do that, do that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[405] So we've got the choice?
Anne (PS6RW)	[406] You've the choice. [407] You've got the choice. [408] But, erm, I just thought perhaps erm, it would be unfair not to give you a choice. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[409] Anne. [410] The transcription is separate from the total number of words, isn't it?
Anne (PS6RW)	[411] Yes,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[412] Right.
Anne (PS6RW)	[413] [...] transcription itself, [...] almost the [...] number of words. [414] It would take ages to [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[415] [...] words.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[416] Yeah. [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[417] Okay. [418] How soon [...] . [419] If, if there are problems, because you can see I'm a little bit unsure of length, myself. [420] I haven't done this before. [421] If there are problems,le we could work them through together, but I think this is much more interesting to be, sort o I think to be linked in with an outside project like this, and just to be working away in isolation, and so we'll feel our way experimentally.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[422] Yeah, cos I mean, the conversation you might wanna use, well may go on much longer than five sides, so ... you've got
Anne (PS6RW)	[423] Good point, yes. [424] Take, just take a, a sa sample of it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[425] If you, yes, certainly, you can use bits, you [shouting] bits [] of a long conversation if necessary.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[426] Are you gonna do [...] with Jo?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[427] In case bits from the examiner penalizes yes, certainly, I'll justify that [...] he won't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[428] Erm, because, if he, if you're worried about the external examiner. [429] Al although our college regulations say that, these [...] should be two thousand words or equivalent. [430] It always says, or equivalent, that's [cough] just in order to open up the possibilities like this, so that we're not caught by some legalistic oath.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[431] So if you can use
Anne (PS6RW)	[432] And so the equivalent for you who is doing the [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[433] Sorry. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[434] One long conversation, you can use different parts of that one long conversation ... is that what you say?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[435] Well, no I didn't. [436] I said, [laugh] you got a, a long, a long conversation, say, ten minutes. [437] For our purposes you just need to take any bit, either the beginning, the middle or the end, that seem to be the best bit, the interesting bit. [438] If I take out a chunk, you can do [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[439] I do think that you're, when you're doing it, thinking of doing two bits, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[440] But I just like to [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[441] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[442] But you're, well you, supposing you've got two long conversations, what you want to do is two [...] bits, I can transfer bits out of
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[443] If erm, you know the way the transcript was written down.
Anne (PS6RW)	[444] Yes, sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[445] Well, [...] to write on it, because it, you'll have some on one [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[446] The overlap, yes. [447] Well, let's talk about those technicalities next week. [448] You may have to do it in longhand. [449] Too difficult to type. [450] Wh when it's, when you get, when you're getting interruptions, like we just had then
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[451] [whispering] Great []
Anne (PS6RW)	[452] you're transcribing this [...] erm, it is, it is a problem [...] wordprocessor.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[453] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[454] And er, of course, if you're really ca cunning, you may say well, five sides is a difficult, erm, difficult criterion, because let's write B,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[455] but we can't, we can't up against every [...] use your commonsense on that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[456] Do you have to type the essay?
Anne (PS6RW)	[457] Preferably yes, it's much easier to mark it, and I must say, research, research shows, that a clearly typed essay does tend to get a better mark.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[458] [whispering] Oh, I hate typing essays []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[459] Oh. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[460] It does what?
Anne (PS6RW)	[461] There has been.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[462] Get that mark.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[463] Really?
Anne (PS6RW)	[464] People have done research, [...] giving marks to
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[465] [...] long though.
Anne (PS6RW)	[466] the same piece of work handwritten and typed. [467] Erm, and it, it does score higher
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[468] when it's typed. [469] People are influenced. [470] We're human and you, you're influenced by presentation, so if you can type it ... it's not compulsory, but it is, would be in your interest that it's typed, if you can.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[471] Are you going to do the one on the left hand side. [472] Would you still have to mention things like eye contact and gesture, and [clears throat] that? [473] Or does it [...] ?
Anne (PS6RW)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[474] I can't do that, I [...] thing on our tape. [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[475] [...] have we been through the [...] of this group?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[476] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[477] We went through them, didn't we?
Anne (PS6RW)	[478] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[479] What was that all the talk about [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[480] No. [481] No, that's the second part [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[482] We haven't done anything, have we? [giggle]
Anne (PS6RW)	[483] [...] assignment.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[484] Yeah, you're right.
Anne (PS6RW)	[485] We went through the situation and background, but I don't think we did that. [486] Erm, when we were looking at all the markers like erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[487] gesture, gesture [...] and strategy, [...] this we need to this morning.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[488] [...] yes, and we'll come back to
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[489] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[490] [...] ridiculous.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[491] So, for the rest of this morning, erm, we're going to [...] back on what you brought in. [492] On [...] on conversational management. [493] We were going to do that last week. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[494] But we didn't.
Anne (PS6RW)	[495] [...] the work [...] to that. [496] [...] [paper rustling] You, you just see what each other are doing, because I'm going to put you into lots of groups in a minute. [497] I want, what I want you to do is get into groups of four in a minute, according to these instructions. [498] Erm, groups of four, so we can use these pairs like this, so we can all talk to each other in a foursome.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[499] So we can move around.
Anne (PS6RW)	[500] Erm, and I want to make sure that you've got, those four people have all done something different from here. [501] Tell each other what you've done [...] different bits of the worksheet. [502] So I'll just, have a look round to see if who, who's done what. [503] Who did topic charts?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[504] So you need to be separated. [505] Go to another group. [506] Two, two did topic choice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[507] I did some.
Anne (PS6RW)	[508] And three. [509] Make sure you're in different groups.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[510] Okay.
Anne (PS6RW)	[511] Turn taking, turn distribution. [512] Who did that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[513] Me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[514] One, two, three, so we separate yourself into different groups. [515] Erm, speakers holding the floor and the next bit. [516] One, who are you working with?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[517] Oh, Jo, she's not here, today.
Anne (PS6RW)	[518] Right. [519] So it doesn't matter where you go. [520] [laugh] Erm, those turn, use turn [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[521] What did you two do?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[522] Erm, I was opening conversation [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[523] Opening and closing, yes, it's down here. [524] So make sure, again, you split up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[525] Erm, what did she just say?
Anne (PS6RW)	[526] What did you do?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[527] I did that, and you did what?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[528] [...] right, okay, we can stay together. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [everyone talking]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[529] I don't know, I might just about copy this out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[530] [...] thing is, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[531] Can we have four groups. [532] Get into four groups
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[533] [...] English [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[534] erm, round the tables [...] cos it's easier to talk.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[535] Different erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[536] Oh, you can come with us, if you want.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[537] No, I'll probably go into the next [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[538] Oops, bloody chair. [539] [paper rustling] Hang on, what is it, what have we got to do now?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[540] Got to do this date.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[541] Today's the fifteenth.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[542] Yes.
Anne (PS6RW)	[543] Has anyone, I don't think we've got anybody who's on this wrong assignment.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[544] No, we haven't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[545] Wrong assignment.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[546] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[547] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[548] What we gotta do, just stick, discuss what we, our findings.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[549] Right erm, I'll break at, at about ten past, quarter past, so we've got about ten minutes [cough] or quarter of an hour. [550] We're just exchanging what you've found in your groups. [551] Erm, you haven't got everything represented there, but you've all got quite a lot, [cough] [...] quite a large chunk of them actually. [552] So, make sure that you get from each other what [...] you've all got. [553] The best way of organizing this for your file, is [...] file of reports.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[554] Yeah, [...] [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[555] You,ho you should ideally all have a [...] ouch, [laughing] a file like this [] and, before I pick this up, erm, the best way of organizing your files and just, just take separate bits of paper now, to save yourselves time, is to take separate pieces of paper for the separate topics, that separate people have done, and as you're talking to each other, begin making notes and adding to, to these different bits. [556] So for example, topic choice, could be one bit of paper, and term taken erm, opening and closing, would be another

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Rebecca (PS586)	[557] I suppose body language you, [...] couldn't yeah,
Inga (PS6RY)	[558] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[559] sort of,
Inga (PS6RY)	[560] [...] looking at their ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[561] Yeah
Inga (PS6RY)	[562] [...] terrible, terrible.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[563] It's my turn now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[564] Mm. [565] If you want.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[566] [...] I'm sorry, no. [567] [laugh] Alright, erm, how do speakers talk
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[568] Talk.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[569] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[570] Erm, they give a complex number of cues, erm, when they are about to finish their conversation, erm, I ... how did they manage to [...] it's shown, it shown through the gaze of the speaker [...] erm, erm, the speaker coming to the end of long actions has been shown to gaze heavily at the listener. [571] So, well, actually [...] so you know it's [...] . [572] Doesn't make any sense, does it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[573] Yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[574] Erm, also inclination of head towards the listener [...] and erm ... erm, how did they feel that they'd finished the [...] erm, speaker's intonation and a drop in volume of voice [...] towards the end, and erm, also you've got quite a full [...] tags. [575] Like, I speak something and, and I say, you know, so you know, you know what it means. [576] [laugh] That indicates the person. [577] Erm, and gestures as well, things like definite body movements, like [...] like I say something, then
Rebecca (PS586)	[578] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[579] I point away to you ... you know that I've finished my conversation.
Rebecca (PS586)	[580] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[581] Right, and, any terms at all, usually, about erm, [...] conversations with your friends, usually it's okay just to interrupt your friends. [582] Erm, they're quite frequent in friendly conversations ... and, but in casual conversations, one of three things happen. [583] Erm, current speaker will [...] next speaker by name, so when I speak to you and I call your name, you know that I am talking to you. [584] It's the cue to the next person. [585] Does it make any sense? [586] Tell me if [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[587] Yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[588] Erm, so ... but if the speaker doesn't announce the other one by name, the third one erm, realize, may react himself. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[589] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[590] So erm, if two or more do this at the same time, first person's to speak call the talk. [591] Yes? [592] So you ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[593] [...] that one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[594] So if two or more do this thing like, if they don't call your name, there at the same time, the first person to speak will be four.
Rebecca (PS586)	[595] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[596] Does it make sense?
Rebecca (PS586)	[597] No. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[598] Right. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [everyone talking]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[599] [...] I think,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[600] Okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[601] Good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[602] [...] I did, actually, [...] mine was the role of silence. [603] [cough] Right, there's three different types of silence. [604] Erm, the first one is called a lapse ... erm, and that happens when the person who's speaking, hasn't selected the next speaker, or nobody who's [...] self-selected. [605] So, and the person who's speaking decides not to go on, so perhaps the conversation has stopped. [606] Erm, the second sort is a gap which is a brief silence, usually sort of one second or less, between the end of one turn, and the next speaker actually starting to speak, so they're still thinking about what they're going to say. [607] So that's a gap, then there's the third type is a pause, this is terribly complicated, erm, this is a silence within somebody's turn, so it could happen in one of three ways. [608] Erm, either the person is erm, thinking of what to say, in search of the right words, so they have a pause within their turn and then carry on. [609] Erm, or they stop, the current speaker stops thinking that somebody might want to join in, or the erm,spea current speaker chooses the next one, but the person they choose takes so long to actually respond, the current speaker carries on, because he thinks they're not going to say anything.
Rebecca (PS586)	[610] Can we go over those again ... just the pause one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[611] Erm, right, so a pause silence within a participant's turn, so the current speaker just has a pause, then carries on speaking,
Rebecca (PS586)	[612] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[613] so it can happen in one of three ways. [614] Either they're thinking of what to say next ... or they stop, thinking that somebody else might want to join in, but they don't, so that the current speaker then carries on
Rebecca (PS586)	[615] Mm. ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[616] or the speaker who's speaking, selects the next speaker by saying, didn't you think, or whatever, but the person they've chosen takes so long to answer, that the current speaker just carries on
Rebecca (PS586)	[617] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[618] cos they think they're not going to get a response ... I mean it, it, it can't get much er, can't get very much going on this. [619] [everyone talking] A lot of these sort of inter-relate, don't they, really, I mean ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[620] [...] just the sake of [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[621] Just say something every now and again, don't they? ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[622] Oh dear. [623] [yawn] How did you get in this morning, did you walk?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[624] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[625] Yeah, nice day, innit it, bloody cold out there, though.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[626] Yeah, innit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[627] Nice bright morning, though,
Rebecca (PS586)	[628] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[629] Least it's not raining.
Rebecca (PS586)	[630] That's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[631] I don't think [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[632] Where do you live?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[633] Do you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[634] Are you in trouble every day [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[635] Blimey
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[636] Commutes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[637] Oh no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[638] It's alright, actually, the worst it takes me is about an hour. [639] When it's really busy, but ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[640] Is that from home?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[641] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[642] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[643] Yeah, erm, this morning, [...] yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[644] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[645] Do, do you cycle?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[646] [...] till half eight.
Rebecca (PS586)	[647] I think you should.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[648] Bound to [...] isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[649] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[650] But I don't know [...] think it would be easier?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [everyone talking]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[651] Oh yeah [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[652] The thing is that you know [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[653] Yeah, I just, I just [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[654] Whereabouts do you live [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[655] Oh, right, ah ... [cough] [laugh] thank you [...] but you could come any ... other time.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[656] I'll give you a ring ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[657] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[658] in the evening. [659] It's a different [...] it's just that Sunday's free for me.
Rebecca (PS586)	[660] Oh, what do you do, what do you do on [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[661] Yeah, on Monday, my cousin is, is coming. [662] I think that Sunday she's free, but I've got to [...] to get at her, and on Monday I've got to go up to walk her round to see her [...] . [663] She's going to [...] . [664] But if I ... you come and watch [...] I'm definitely,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[665] [...] so we've got a cottage nearby
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[666] What semi-detached?
Rebecca (PS586)	[667] I've gotta come round.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[668] Yeah, you've certainly [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[669] Someone's gotta come round [...] I mean just to see where [...] but I just [...] I'll ring, I'll give you a buzz on Monday, I know you're not there, you can say, [...] well, I'll see you again on Tuesday in English, perhaps you can arrange something then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[670] Mm.
Anne (PS6RW)	[671] Okay, well I think this is a good erm, juncture at which to stop. [672] Come back in twenty minutes at the most, and we'll bring this together. [everybody packing up]

3 (Tape 130303)

Rebecca (PS586)	[673] No, that's my [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[674] What we just said
Rebecca (PS586)	[675] What we just said we got there.
Anne (PS6RW)	[676] [...] sounding right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[677] Yeah, I yeah [clears throat] sorry
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[678] Could [...] do it. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[679] Aye.
Anne (PS6RW)	[680] Just listen to her tapes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[681] Except honestly, she's just ... lazy. [682] Can't treat her own [...] can't wash her.
Anne (PS6RW)	[683] She no asked to speak to you [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[684] No, I went round to with Mr Muscle, I went shh, shh, shh [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[685] But suppose you can't [...] doesn't he get really [...] about the bed made? [686] One of the beds.
Rebecca (PS586)	[687] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[688] Oh, it's horrible.
Rebecca (PS586)	[689] Yeah. [690] [...] wipe [...] and everything.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[691] You have to the get mattress out urgh, it's awful.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[692] [...] on the beds.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[693] Okay,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[694] I'll tell you what, when I have rugby practice, I'll come and have a shower.
Rebecca (PS586)	[695] Yeah, and I believe it. [696] I believe it. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[697] I'm not joking. [698] You get used to wash erm, at least your own scum out of erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[699] Oh, it was you, was it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[700] And erm, [...] you just got to be, you know a mum would, a mum and that [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[701] You know my mum came up, she comes up and says I know this already [...] you know, mum came up, saying, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [everyone talking]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[702] [...] yeah well, Essex, probably Essex University, Anne goes to [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[703] I think it pays a bit better.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[704] I've done it even though
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[705] Have you? [706] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[707] [...] worked out what I am saying [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[708] Oh. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[709] I still [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[710] Thank God I'm not [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[711] What?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[712] You alright?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[713] Fine, thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[714] Ah [...] scratch [...] last night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[715] Ah [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[716] [...] little man.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[717] Oh, you did?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[718] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[719] He goes [...] I can't believe [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[720] And erm, clothes in general?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[721] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[722] So you try to [...] go to visit him, or him come over here?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[723] Yeah. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[724] Tell him [...] that could be good.
Anne (PS6RW)	[725] Right. [726] [...] try it again and ... I want to do two things for the rest of the morning. [727] Two separate things, so see whether we can ... work fast. [728] First of all, this feedback, on what you were doing before coffee, and secondly ... talk about some of those markers and the speakers that been brought to my attention [...] talked about with the other group, but not you. [729] [laugh] This, the sheet on conversation rules. [730] There's relatively few rules feeling that, types erm, belong to each other. [731] I think the best thing in a way, is not to repeat what you've already said to each other. [732] But to bring out questions, things that you felt in your groups that you would like to perhaps ask the others about, or came back and ask me, any particular points that you [...] to read on or weren't clear when you were talking in a group, or things that you felt the others might ... you know, [...] to talk about. [733] Let's just run through it, erm, on topic choice. [734] Do you all feel in your separate groups, that erm, you've covered that?
Rebecca (PS586)	[735] Yes. [cough]
Anne (PS6RW)	[736] You've talking about it [cough] [...] choosing a, choosing a topic and changing topics. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[737] You couldn't have got [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[738] Anything that's, anything that came up that was, that you felt you wanted to tell the others about?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[739] No, not really.
Anne (PS6RW)	[740] Choosing and changing topics are, are going to appear, I'm, I'm saying rightly, that it's going to be at first hard.
Rebecca (PS586)	[741] Mm.
Anne (PS6RW)	[742] In an extreme situation, we've got something like an in situ situation so the interviewer will have much more power, and has the total rights to change the topic and choose the topic, and cut off the topic when it's finished. [743] So that's an example that gives us very much asymmetrical different amounts apart, and then you get the other end of the, the, the other extreme, you got to select, you know, you got to [...] your power, your friendship group, and so when got to do, to choose whichever [...] amongst friends. [744] Would you agree with that? [745] I'm changing, [...] on the right hand side there ...

4 (Tape 130304)

Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[746] Erm, right, Okay! [747] Er, [...] thinking about ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[748] Is there any money?
Anne (PS6RW)	[749] Don't get a chance.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[750] Are you ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[751] Is there a phone box near your house?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[752] No, but we have got a telephone, and you're more than welcome to use it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[753] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[754] What you've got to remember though, that's what's seek [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[755] [shouting] He gave you the phone number, didn't he [] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[756] No. [757] It's just I, I was sitting here, haven't phoned my parents to say I got back here alright.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[758] That's alright. [759] You can ring your parents. [clears throat]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[760] We'll all be in the kitchen, so [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[761] Are you recording this now?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[762] [...] I don't think that [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[763] Oh, no. [764] Hi.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[765] Shh, don't know [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[766] Oh, alright. [767] Sorry. [768] Ignore that bit. [769] [laugh] Gone quiet now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[770] I didn't realize, in fact, oh yeah, let's talk about all the men that Claire's been hanging out with. [771] The tape recorder's on.
Anne (PS6RW)	[772] Thank you.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[773] Oh, did you switch the tape recorder on?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[774] Is it on?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[775] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[776] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[777] What's he talking about?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[778] You're not allowed [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[779] I'm gonna have to scrub all this bit, now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[780] You could use it. [781] It'll give you something to talk about.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[782] I didn't hear, I didn't hear you saying you were putting tape recorder on. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[783] I'll tell you afterwards, you see, and then I'll ask you whether you, anyone's got any objections, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[784] Erm, well, actual cardinal board of sinners, you've really scored the lot.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[785] Just in case for some reason they'll correlate, it doesn't matter.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[786] There's that girl that you think I fancy again, just moving down there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[787] Ah, moving, oh where, where?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[788] What does she look like?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[789] Legs up to her armpits.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[790] No, you I used to know her from church in Oxford, before she moved down here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[791] What I keep saying, we must, we must get to know her better. [792] We mustn't ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[793] [laugh] I know, think you're going to
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[794] Yes, darling, right, yeah.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[795] No, I'm just being friendly, cos when we moved into the church, people invited us around a lot, and it was really nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[796] Yeah.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[797] And ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[798] Well, yeah.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[799] and ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[800] Stick your car in that garage, leave door open, mind. [laugh]

5 (Tape 130305)

Rebecca (PS586)	[801] This is your new one?
None (KPVPS000)	[802] That's the new sofa.
Rebecca (PS586)	[803] Oh, very smart. [804] You said you were gonna change it all round when you got the new sofa.
None (KPVPS000)	[805] Yes.
Anne (PS6RW)	[806] It looks nice. [807] [...] another new one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[808] Cor, nice.
Anne (PS6RW)	[809] You got the whole room changed.
None (KPVPS000)	[810] Yes, a few plants there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[811] Oh, you've taken this off somewhere [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[812] [...] actually on there
None (KPVPS000)	[813] Yeah, I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[814] You got a coat.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[815] You got, er, [...] any coats or, coats or anything?
None (KPVPS000)	[816] But we're not gonna sort of go out there much in the winter too.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[817] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[818] No. [819] put them on my bed.
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[820] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[821] Nick, now, I haven't got Charlotte 's number, so you're gonna have to
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[822] Nick, er, tel;
None (KPVPS000)	[823] Hang on. [phone dialling]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[824] I've got [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[825] Yeah, course you can.
None (KPVPS000)	[826] That's a fax machine.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[827] Oh. [828] Let me, let me do it. [829] Put it down. [830] [replacing the receiver] Pick it up.
None (KPVPS000)	[831] Go on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[832] Hello, alright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[833] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[834] It's really fun. [835] It's really good. [836] Just needs tidying up. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[837] [...] got slapped in the face.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[838] You didn't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[839] I have.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[840] That little kid,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[841] That little naughty one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[842] [...] playing [...] was on automatic. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[843] Really.
None (KPVPS000)	[844] [phonecall starts] Yes, hello, is, is Charlotte there, please. [845] Er, er sorry, I think I might have the wrong number. [846] Okay, sorry, bye-bye [phonecall ends] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[847] [...] to understand that [...] be sorry after about five minutes.
None (KPVPS000)	[848] You can do it this time.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[849] Why did she [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[850] Here it is, here it is, That's what I just did.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[851] [...] got too scary, so to make me scared, she slapped me round the face.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[852] Oh, I see, oh, right, well done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[853] What's this?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[854] Be a good laugh, actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[855] Is it engaged?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[856] [...] round you all the time, aren't they? [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[857] [...] not all waiting round there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[858] Been alright, but ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[859] Thing was, we thought it wo it would have stopped 'em.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[860] But that's really unusual because we got there at half past one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[861] Gosh aren't they lucky. [862] When's their evening performance then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[863] Quarter to eight.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[864] Ah, heck.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[865] I don't think we should [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[866] Erm, so [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[867] It's really weird, it's, it's really small. [868] Which is basically a square with a middle, and it's just got C P C P C [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[869] Is it the balcony?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[870] the balcony
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[871] Yeah, it's in the balcony.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[872] Charlie.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[873] And we got really good seats. [874] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[875] We got, I was right at the front [...] in the balcony.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[876] How much does it [...] take to go up in the balcony, more or less?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[877] I doubt there's any difference.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[878] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[879] We paid about five fifty, I was up, I was in the actual compartment going home. [880] So I was really pleased with my tickets.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[881] [...] good actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[882] Yes, it was very good. [883] wasn't it Karl?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[884] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[885] It was really good acting.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[886] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[887] I have a feeling, actually, that all the prices are all the same, because, and here it tells you, and I seem to recall only seeing one ... oh no they are, five fifty to eleven pounds. [888] Five fifty must be students, eight fifty must be ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[889] O A Ps
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[890] Well, well, [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[891] [...] an O A P.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[892] Erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[893] Don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[894] I don't know, maybe you do pay more in the balcony.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[895] What, but I, surely you wouldn't pay more in the balcony. [896] Cos I had a really good view. [897] I had an excellent view. [898] I don't know how they [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[899] [...] stalls are usually very expensive aren't they, all the back [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[900] [...] they?
None (KPVPS000)	[901] Is there a [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[902] Do you know this [...] erm, [...] oh, I've lost one of those. [903] [...] there's two of the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[whispering] [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[904] Yeah, and [...] [whistling] showed us another one today.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[905] What's that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[906] Erm, a secondhand book shop. [907] Should know that there were two, I only thought there was one.
None (KPVPS000)	[908] You're more than welcome to sit on the sofa. [909] I know it's new, but you don't have to be scared of it. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[910] I'm gonna see the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[911] Oh, it's nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[912] Eighteen ninety eight.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[913] I'm just going to er, bed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[914] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[915] Yeah, it sure does. [916] Yes sirree Bob.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[917] Straight to you. [918] It doesn't go up. [919] Did you get any insurance? [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[920] [...] my mum got me an [...] , yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[921] Hey, I [...] about the book in the library the other day, plus all the other work she showed us. [922] Don't know why, I just felt like it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[923] That's really good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[924] Looks quite good, doesn't it? [925] Four pound.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[926] Not bad. [927] It's a nice old book as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[928] Mm. [929] Thought well. [930] You know, should be useful. [931] Get to know a bit of the history. [932] Cos I'm very good at knowing what this is and what that is, but I, I, in timescale, I haven't got a blooming clue.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[933] You got all your books, your study books?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[934] Have I?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[935] [yawning] yeah []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[936] Ah I've got a, I've got a big erm, Milton books, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[937] This is the Milton one I've got.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[938] Is it Milton, I got, oh [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[939] Nice, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[940] Yeah. [941] Oh, I see. [942] Oh, it's nice, it's really nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[943] Ah, don't be [...] lovely name. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[944] Paradise renamed. [sneeze]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[945] Oh, so that's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[946] It's really good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[947] Right. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[948] Erm, all these books, you gonna [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[949] [...] gonna get murdered.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[950] Wouldn't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[951] Pardon?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[952] Wouldn't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[953] [...] tell 'em to [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[954] Yeah. [955] What have I done?
None (KPVPS000)	[956] Nothing. [957] Can I borrow you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[958] Yeah, you can, I'm gonna start the dinner in a minute.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[959] [...] sent out there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[960] You gonna do it for me?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[961] Yeah. [962] Just say if Ben and Charlotte are there, hi, dinner's up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[963] It's engaged.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[964] Sorry
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[965] [...] I shall be [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[966] Is it planning to be on erm, er production going on about Mary this week, at all, [...] wouldn't mind going to. [967] Was it this week, or next week? [968] It's called Shakespeare Country.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[969] Ah, yeah, I heard about that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[970] Yeah, she was telling us about it that girl, in wr in writing, what it, she was telling us it, about it being formed at a different venue, but it's actually the Mary Wallis Theatre. [971] Do you know where that is?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[972] Erm, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[973] It's erm in, in Twickenham.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[974] I thought she sounded like she was in it, or something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[975] Yeah, she did, didn't she? [976] I think she is. [977] But there's a little th you know where the, the Mary Wallis Theatre is, don't you, Jules?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[978] Do I? [979] I've heard of it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[980] By the river, in Twickenham. [981] You know the garden with the statues ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[982] The hanging wheelie thing?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[983] Yeah. [984] That's the Mary Wallis Theatre, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[985] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[986] There's a, I, I nearly booked up tickets to go and see this, but I didn't know if anybody would fancy going to see it with me. [987] It's called Mr Director, and it's played by Faye .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[988] I'd go and see anything really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[989] I thought perhaps we'd go erm, see if we can get stand by tickets for it, on Monday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[990] The Orange Tree was really, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[991] [...] really little, wasn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[992] Yeah, that's nice. [993] I like little theatres.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[994] Tiny.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[995] They weren't like, you kept changing the places so, like, you have the whole cast like, away from you, and then you'd have them facing you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[996] Mm.
None (KPVPS000)	[997] Who has sugar?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[998] No one does.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[999] No, thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1000] Nicole, can I help?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1001] No, thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1002] Be in the way. [1003] [laugh] Too many cooks spoil the broth.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1004] Pardon?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1005] Too many cooks [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1006] Any takers for [...] in here?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1007] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1008] [...] it was tiny, it's just as long, looks like a drawing room.
None (KPVPS000)	[1009] You all set? [stirring coffee]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1010] I saw fortunes of [...] I don't know how you pronounce it. [1011] It was really a good play, ha, and it was done so well, and you were so close to it as well, you got in for two pounds, best thing I've ever seen.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1012] Blimey, two quid.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1013] It was standing, though, but it was only an hour play.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1014] [...] it was eleven quids in, eleven quids, eleven quid if you had a go on a stand by day.
None (KPVPS000)	[1015] It's not that cheap though, it is?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1016] No, they're not really, you got a stand by, you got it for eight fifty, and cos we're students, instead of eight fifty, we got it for five.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1017] Thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1018] Oh, that looks nice.
None (KPVPS000)	[1019] Yeah, that looks nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1020] They're pretty aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1021] We had quite a lot of making guesses of what it'll [...] , when it's like half done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1022] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1023] What, sorry?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1024] I don't know what it is, so I'm gonna
None (KPVPS000)	[1025] Oh, right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1026] have to start making guesses when I can smell it.
None (KPVPS000)	[1027] Oh, don't get too excited.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1028] Thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1029] It really isn't very exciting, I'm afraid [...] [whistling] [singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1030] You keep trying, cos it's engaged.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1031] Do you want me to do it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1032] Yeah, if you would.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1033] Will redial, dial them again?
None (KPVPS000)	[1034] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1035] Dial, redial ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1036] Yeah, she looks much older in that photograph there.
None (KPVPS000)	[1037] Yeah, she does, doesn't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1038] [...] talk to her actually, cos er, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1039] She's been in lots of [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1040] Let's have a look.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1041] Was she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1042] The one we'v we're trying to put an age to.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1043] Oh yes, she does.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1044] We end up [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1045] Well, she is [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1046] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1047] Hopefully [...] feet.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1048] Perhaps they've left. [1049] No answer now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1050] [...] try and do.
None (KPVPS000)	[1051] [phonecall starts] Hello, is that Charlotte ... yes please ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1052] Mm, I recognize her, she's
None (KPVPS000)	[1053] Oh, that's ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1054] well known,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1055] Yeah. [1056] Diane.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1057] she been on T V, cos she been ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1058] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1059] Trying to get ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1060] I think she was in erm ... you don't,Aga
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1061] Miss Marple recently or erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1062] Really ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1063] Diane Fletcher.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1064] Yeah,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1065] I used to enjoy that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1066] Yeah it was really good
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1067] She was really good.
None (KPVPS000)	[1068] Hi, it's Phil here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1069] I, I forgotten that it was Justine, I, it just threw me a bit that erm, erm, Nick asked me to let you know that we were here and that we'd received the chairs. [1070] Yes ... Er, no, no, no sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1071] What's wrong?
None (KPVPS000)	[1072] Yes, we could be. [1073] Yeah, any time, any time you like. [1074] Can I ask you a favour? [1075] Erm, could you pick up a pint of milk at the Seven Eleven for us, hang on, I'll give you some money. [1076] That's lovely, erm no that's it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1077] Oh, that sounds lovely. [1078] No, yes ... alright, alright, bye- bye [phonecall ends] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1079] Bye.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1080] Justine probably thinks I'm really rude now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1081] Why?
None (KPVPS000)	[1082] Not that she didn't think I was really rude before. [1083] Just to reinforce that ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1084] They're all, all pretty impressive people, aren't they [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1085] Here, here we are with Meredith Davies, these are ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1086] What's the man on the very end, he looks like people running on the sand.
None (KPVPS000)	[1087] That, that's Paul Simon.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1088] Ah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1089] Is that Paul Simon?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1090] Meredith
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1091] I just haven't seen the C D for this.
None (KPVPS000)	[1092] What do you like? [crackling in background]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1093] I, I don't, I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1094] You prefer the man singing that, than singing [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1095] I'm so Sleepy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1096] Oh, Nancy Rider. [1097] Was it Nancy Rider?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1098] Griffiths.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1099] Griffiths.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1100] Sorry, sorry, Griffiths.
None (KPVPS000)	[1101] Okay, I'll put this on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1102] Just for me [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1103] Doreen.
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1104] See what you're about to say, Mary [...] [music]
None (KPVPS000)	[1105] I think ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1106] Bought it for [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1107] I think I bought that for Nick, but ... she didn't have a C D player, so I kept it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1108] Sorry, I [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1109] [laughing] You know you said that [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1110] Did you know that might erm, be actually staying together at that stage? [laugh] [...] to see if [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1111] Mind you, it was before we were engaged or anything.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1112] Was it?
None (KPVPS000)	[1113] Wasn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1114] When you say a thing about yo th that, erm, who's got one of those pink pottery mugs.
None (KPVPS000)	[1115] These two have.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1116] We bought those when we
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1117] Yeah [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1118] When we were just going out. [1119] We bought one each.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1120] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1121] Yeah ... we just knew. [1122] [laugh] It's true [...] . [1123] But we didn't say to each other, to each other , it wasn't like, now we're both buying these mugs, jointly, sort of thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1124] It's like,
None (KPVPS000)	[1125] Is, is anyone ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[1126] once you go round buying two mugs now ... [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[1127] is anybody sort of falling over hungry, desperate for something to eat, and they can't wait till dinner?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1128] No, I can, I can wait.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1129] No, I can wait.
None (KPVPS000)	[1130] Must just be me, then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1131] I'm speaking for my myself here, so if anybody else is, is dying [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1132] [...] really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1133] I'm away from
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1134] [...] do actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1135] Erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1136] It's all a matter of degree of hunger. [whistling]
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1137] Can I try erm, a scampi?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1138] Never mind, there'll be other things coming round soon.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1139] [...] dangerous [...] whatever it's called.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1140] Things [...] against your life. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1141] Oh, there's no need to pick on us.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1142] And then, [...] the big ones to you, they're gonna feel like really fat. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[1143] No, I'm just gonna bung it all in. [1144] One big thing.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1145] Yes, but, but, that is, I'd use that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1146] Do you know what it is?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1147] Just for one thing. [1148] I'd just use those two.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1149] Er, what about using the two big ones?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1150] They said they went to get the food at Waitrose, and I heaved, and I said, I don't want to see [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1151] Don't want to see ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1152] [...] actually a surprise.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1153] You want one of those for wine, you just got one ...
None (KPVPS000)	[1154] I got it twice the size, though. [1155] That's eighteen ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[1156] Eighteen.
None (KPVPS000)	[1157] [...] thirty five [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1158] Oh, that's silly that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1159] Well, that's rather pricey.
None (KPVPS000)	[1160] No, no, not pricey. [1161] Is that ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1162] I followed you there. [1163] Oh, wasn't it cold this morning?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1164] It was ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1165] It was icy, wasn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1166] What was that? [1167] I'm sitting on the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1168] And I was talking, cos I walked along, I walked down towards Twickenham, but I walked to way you go to [...] when I went straight down to Twickenham. [1169] Whose is that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1170] Twenty minutes, I suppose. [1171] [...] but it's so cold. [1172] Oh it was horrible.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1173] I couldn't believe it, the [...] room where the seminar had been [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1174] Yes, that came into the [...] again. [1175] Well, I had such a lovely day, it's so nice and sunny and warm, should have [...] did send me a card [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1176] Yeah, exactly [...] a card.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1177] You know, you carry on down the motorway, like the sun was on, on, and I was really getting sweaty hot with the sun, it was like on the win on the on er, the window
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1178] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1179] and it was strange, but it was really warm cos you having the window, and ah that was really hot.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1180] No.
None (KPVPS000)	[1181] Well, I would have said that the white one
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1182] Well, have we got six? [singing]
None (KPVPS000)	[1183] Six [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1184] Oh, that's okay. [1185] [singing] Just seeing if we've got enough plates. [1186] There you are. [singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1187] [laugh] You should have said, we could have brought some round. [noise - background]
None (KPVPS000)	[1188] Oh, we won't turn this light off. [1189] Yo you can't see. [1190] [switching light on] Is that alright?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1191] That's fine, yes, sorry. [1192] [laugh] Miles away.
None (KPVPS000)	[1193] Oh, that's nothing.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1194] reckon it costs much to run these lights underneath here?
None (KPVPS000)	[1195] No, cos they're fluorescent, it's only about twelve watts, it's less than a light bulb.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1196] Oh, I see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1197] You got an [...] electricity bill?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1198] Twenty seven.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1199] Well, what
None (KPVPS000)	[1200] Twenty seven, that's not bad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1201] Yeah, we, I don't think that's bad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1202] Mind you ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1203] [...] a quarter, that looks quite good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1204] Can't be a quarter, must be a month, surely.
None (KPVPS000)	[1205] Before you put the heating on. [1206] Is it estimated?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1207] It says for a quarter, which means you're paying a quarter's erm, like charge, which is s seven quid, but it's only actually for a, a month.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1208] Right. [1209] To the end of October.
None (KPVPS000)	[1210] Was it estimated?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1211] Erm, no. [1212] Well you know [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1213] Can't be a quarter.
None (KPVPS000)	[1214] That's right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1215] Don don't you get a monthly electricity bill?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1216] No.
None (KPVPS000)	[1217] Quarterly.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1218] Quarterly. [1219] But the they give it you at the end of the quarter, even if you haven't been in for a quarter. [1220] See what I mean?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1221] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1222] So they do November, December, don't they? [1223] October, November, December is one quarter. [1224] So it's right, you move in in September, then they'll give you, they'll charge you
None (KPVPS000)	[1225] You'll get that quarter's bill, but it's only since ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1226] Right, I'll come and sit down and drink my tea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1227] Oh, I see. [1228] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1229] Non-stop [...] [sigh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1230] Oh, it's nice to have a sit down.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1231] The thing is, I thought I need to write to them, because when we just sent Mr
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1232] yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1233] bill for the quarter between the second of August and the twentieth of September, and he had to pay seven quid for standing charges for that bill.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1234] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1235] And we've had to pay it for from the twentieth of September to the eighth of October.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1236] Oh, I see.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1237] So we've had to pay another seven quid something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1238] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1239] But we, surely we shouldn't, cos we're, it's not for a month, it's only for ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1240] A matter of weeks.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1241] Yes, it's not for a quarter, it's only for, you know, whatever.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1242] Probably be, the next bill you get will probably be bumped up a bit, because you've had the heating on, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1243] Right, yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1244] I mean, I don't really think I, at the moment we only
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1245] need to have the heating on in the hall
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1246] Yeah, that's right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1247] and in our rooms,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1248] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1249] and if it do it does get really cold in the lounge, but at the moment, we're managing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1250] Yeah. [1251] [laugh] Could have water bottles, we've already got water bottles.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1252] Yeah, we all crowd on top
Rebecca (PS586)	[1253] Used to be really [...] sitting there with blankets and water bottles and everything watching the telly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1254] Well.
None (KPVPS000)	[1255] We only need our heating on for an hour.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1256] Do you?
None (KPVPS000)	[1257] An hour in the morning.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1258] We have it on less, because it doesn't heat, I mean, standing in this lobby, it heats up so quickly
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1259] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1260] and especially if you're cooking as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1261] Yes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1262] We're just like, the other day I was doing the washing-up and I was just like, stripping off [laughing] with my outer layers []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1263] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1264] because I was so boiling.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1265] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1266] cos we'd had cooked, had the heating on, and now I did the washing-up in really hot water.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1267] Yeah, it's very contained, as well so that probably the heat stayed
Rebecca (PS586)	[1268] But we'd have it on less, except you just can't, you lit physically on the clock, you can't put ... erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1269] Down less than an hour
Rebecca (PS586)	[1270] well, you can't put the things any closer to one another, so, you know the, the little indicators that clicks [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1271] One off [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1272] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1273] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1274] We've got those as close together as they can.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1275] Close together
Rebecca (PS586)	[1276] It's actually on for two hours in the evening.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1277] Really?
None (KPVPS000)	[1278] Is it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1279] Yes. [1280] I think it's two hours it's on for.
None (KPVPS000)	[1281] I thought it was one.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1282] No, I think it's two. [1283] [music] It's a bit silly really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1284] Badly designed.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1285] Well, yes.
None (KPVPS000)	[1286] Well, perhaps we could, sort of file them, a size down [...] because [...] yack, yack yack [laughing] good [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1287] You could have a go.
None (KPVPS000)	[1288] Well, then, then you'd be able to get them closer.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1289] I'm not doing that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1290] Anything to have a try.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1291] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1292] So.
None (KPVPS000)	[1293] See how horrendous the next one is ... and then panic.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1294] Then go, my God we can't pay it. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[1295] Pay it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1296] Have to sell my soul to the devil himself.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1297] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1298] [laughing] Promise []
Rebecca (PS586)	[1299] [...] as a play. [1300] Sell my soul to the de devil himself.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1301] Shut up.
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1302] [...] way she says, that when she sell [...] that book.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1303] Have you actually seen that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1304] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1305] Cos I think [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1306] I've done two of his, that's enough. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1307] I wish I had.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1308] Oh no, that's Harlow isn't it, Harlow's [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1309] Actually, [...] brilliant. [1310] It's very well ... done, but, read.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1311] Any of these books, yours [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1312] Those ones up there are all his.
None (KPVPS000)	[1313] Actually, Classic Climbs of Great Britain is mine. [1314] Erm, and mo most of mine are up there. [1315] Nick thinks that her, Nick, Nick thinks that her books are much nicer than my books, you see.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1316] [laughing] What a liar [] .
None (KPVPS000)	[1317] So mine are relegated to the
Rebecca (PS586)	[1318] That's not true, they're all the God books up there.
None (KPVPS000)	[1319] Only climbing ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1320] So they're in a high place.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1321] The God books to be found, yeah they're up in a high place.
None (KPVPS000)	[1322] Those are fiction paperbacks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1323] Yeah. [1324] The trash. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1325] No, the
Rebecca (PS586)	[1326] Sort of cave books, cave man books.
None (KPVPS000)	[1327] They're actually really funny in places.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1328] [...] Plain of the cave man.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1329] Cave man.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1330] They weren't actually called plain of the cave man.
None (KPVPS000)	[1331] They're really highly acclaimed books. [1332] They're
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1333] Are they?
None (KPVPS000)	[1334] thoroughly researched. [1335] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1336] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1337] Actually, my friends at church, back home, used to call me erm, cos I, I sort of sometimes squeal when I get excited. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1338] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1339] We have noticed. [1340] That's Nicole, yes. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1341] Yes, every time I start squealing where they give zhowwee cavvy
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1342] Yes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1343] that soon shut me up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1344] Oh dear,
Rebecca (PS586)	[1345] I started to get violent then. [1346] Lash out, hit them all. [laugh] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1347] I really want to go and see, erm, what is it, what's the film ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1348] Grease.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1349] No, no, no where they go round in those little cars, what's it called? [1350] Erm, Elma, and erm,
None (KPVPS000)	[1351] Thelma and Louise.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1352] Thelma and Louise.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1353] No, no, no, no, no. [1354] You know when they go round in their little cars.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1355] Oh, you're thinking about the Flintstones then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1356] Yeah. [1357] I really [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1358] Oh, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1359] Yeah,
Rebecca (PS586)	[1360] They're bringing out a video, you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1361] Yeah, it's erm ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1362] [laughing] Go round in those little cars []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1363] [...] husband, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1364] Where they where they go round in those little
Rebecca (PS586)	[1365] Yeah, I really wanna to see that, actually
None (KPVPS000)	[1366] Isn't, isn't Danny de Vito dance [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1367] That's right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1368] Oh no, why is it, people-ized ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1369] Rick, Rick somebody.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1370] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1371] No
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1372] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1373] They've done it with real people?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1374] Yeah, yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1375] They're doing, they're doing erm ...
None (KPVPS000)	[1376] Isn't Kim Bassinger [laugh] ... Wilma or something?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1377] They're doing erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1378] I don't know. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1379] What you like, Thunderbirds, aren't they supposed to be doing Thunderbirds with real people?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1380] [...] probably, probably
Rebecca (PS586)	[1381] They're doing Thun Thunderbirds. [1382] Gonna move like this.
None (KPVPS000)	[1383] Sharon Stone or something. [1384] I think Sharon Stone wanted to be Wilma.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1385] Really? [1386] I'd really like to see that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1387] It's a, it's a change to keep her clothes on, so [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1388] [...] things I wanna go and watch.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1389] So typical, isn't it, that when you go to see plays, you always like, dashing to the last minute to try and get tickets and been on for like, two months.
None (KPVPS000)	[1390] How's that?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1391] It's just goes on [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1392] [...] Friday September the second.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1393] Has it really?
None (KPVPS000)	[1394] It's a long run, isn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1395] Blimey, I didn't realize that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1396] [...] last night. [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1397] September the second.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1398] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1399] That's like ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[1400] Over a month.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1401] Well over a month, isn't it? [1402] It's the sixteenth today.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1403] And like, I'm doing the Changeling in a couple of weeks' time
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1404] [sneeze] Bless me.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1405] an and it really helps you
None (KPVPS000)	[1406] Bless you.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1407] to go and see it
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1408] Thank you.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1409] at the Barbican, they were just completely sold out. [1410] Really cheesed off. [1411] It was on all summer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1412] That's like that Twelfth Night. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1413] Never mind.
None (KPVPS000)	[1414] So is the Orange Tree quite a famous theatre, then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1415] It's got a good name
None (KPVPS000)	[1416] Good reputation.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1417] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1418] cos it's Rich Richmond, I don't know where Richmond Theatre is. [1419] Where's Richmond Theatre?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1420] It's on the green.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1421] Right I'm with you now.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1422] [...] it's much bigger.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1423] It's all [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1424] Isn't that ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1425] It's really posh.
None (KPVPS000)	[1426] is a preview [...] the one before the their run.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1427] Preview is where you get the press going along, don't you?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1428] It's usually, erm, you know, like a dress rehearsal,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1429] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1430] where it ha it gets a reaction between the audience and the erm, [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1431] Right, because in there, if you pay fifteen pounds, you get erm, you get tickets for, you know you only have to pay four pounds, plus you get half price tickets for ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[1432] When did you see that, Phil?
None (KPVPS000)	[1433] normal productions
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1434] Really?
None (KPVPS000)	[1435] Friends of the Orange Tree ... [laugh] The preview club. [1436] For just fifteen pounds per year, you can become a member of the Orange Tree Theatre's preview club.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1437] Ooh.
None (KPVPS000)	[1438] You'll receive ... two tickets for the price of one at preview performances.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1439] Ah, that's good.
None (KPVPS000)	[1440] Concession price tickets only four pounds each to performances in the room. [1441] Regular newsletter of all production details. [1442] What's the room, is that separate? ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1443] Yeah,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1444] Don't they mean it's lower, rather than the upper circle?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1445] Oh, yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1446] Does that look cheaper ... than the [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1447] I would say it's more expensive.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1448] Expensive.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1449] I don't see why, I,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1450] Yes, yes, so would I, you know, right in the centre of the action, I thought we had brilliant seats.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1451] Thing is though, you get an ov overall picture ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[1452] Yeah, whereas we get like the action right next to them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1453] you can probably be, be facing it and just the articulation's more.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1454] Where sometimes we had the back of the heads and [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1455] cos like you probably saw a completely different play to us.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1456] Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1457] You were sitting right the other side of the stairs
Rebecca (PS586)	[1458] Yeah, exactly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1459] So what do you reckon the room is? [1460] Just [...] on the floor?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1461] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1462] Oh, that's not bad is it? [1463] Four pounds. [1464] To each performance.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1465] Whereas if it had been standing room, we really would have been standing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1466] I agree with like [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1467] There was a couple of people ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1468] when we went to see Fear,
Rebecca (PS586)	[1469] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1470] and it was like standing, and you'd be sitting on the steps
Rebecca (PS586)	[1471] there were a couple of people standing, weren't there?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1472] cos it was really small. [1473] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1474] The Old Vic's er, venturing around as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1475] Difficult evening, aren't you.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1476] Er, not the Old Vic, I beg your pardon, the Young Vic. [1477] [laugh] I won't say
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1478] There's old ladies here. [1479] [...] old men's [...] all know the Vic.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1480] The Queen Vic.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1481] The more mature Vic.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1482] Mm. [1483] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1484] [...] the lesser Vic. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[1485] You could buy, you could buy bar spaces, or seat spaces here. [1486] That's erm,yo did you notice those little name tags on the front of the seats in front of you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1487] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1488] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1489] Two hundred and fifty pounds each.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1490] Jes
None (KPVPS000)	[1491] So.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1492] To do what?
None (KPVPS000)	[1493] No, I don't think so. [1494] It's just a money raising thing.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1495] What do they do?
None (KPVPS000)	[1496] Oh, it's just, it's just.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1497] Have their name put on it.
None (KPVPS000)	[1498] Part of the appeal, yeah, just to get your name on your seat. [1499] But you're still looking at the bar spaces a hundred and fifty pounds, and seat spaces two hundred and fifty pounds. [1500] So there's still opportunities to join Arthur Daley, Adrian Edmondson, Sir John Geilgud, Derek Jacobi, Sir Anthony Hopkins, Dame Judy ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1501] Dench.
None (KPVPS000)	[1502] Michael Caine, Julian [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1503] Those the people that have been there and put down their names on it?
None (KPVPS000)	[1504] Well, they've they've given the money to the appeal.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1505] Oh, I see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1506] [laughing] Nicole [] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[1507] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1508] [laughing] Nicole []
None (KPVPS000)	[1509] Call her Nick.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1510] Nicole, please. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1511] Papa, papa.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1512] Papa? [1513] You have to swing your bottom, papa? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1514] [...] what it's like
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1515] Why can't she go on a motorbike, just cos she's got a dress on? [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[1516] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1517] More than likely, she's bought a [...] car.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1518] Can I try again.
None (KPVPS000)	[1519] Says here, smoking is not allowed.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1520] Yeah, I was quite surprised that woman was smoking in there, actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1521] Quite surprised.
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1522] By the bar area.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1523] Do you mean in the theatre?

6 (Tape 130401)

None (KPVPS001)	[1524] Literally, and then you have to sit there with this cream on, and it's all very fiddly and messy and it smells.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1525] Mm.
None (KPVPS001)	[1526] Oh, let's be natural and groovy babe.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1527] Yeah, I couldn't see the [...] it's very underarm [...] .
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1528] The first time I saw, I went to Germany on an exchange,
None (KPVPS001)	[1529] I can't stand hairy underarms.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1530] No. [1531] I can't either.
None (KPVPS001)	[...]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1532] And erm, he went to school there, and erm, all the girls had these incredibly hairy legs.
Inga (PS6RY)	[1533] [...] blokes from Germany.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1534] Are you having us on there?
None (KPVPS001)	[1535] Germans, are really hairy, they don't
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1536] Yeah.
None (KPVPS001)	[1537] shave armpits and [...] girls.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1538] It really is quite repulsive,
None (KPVPS001)	[1539] I know,yo you see them on the beach
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1540] and they also have these horri these horrible sandals, you know,
None (KPVPS001)	[1541] and they're like got rain forests underneath their arms.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1542] these sort of charming strappy sandals all bits of leather on them.
None (KPVPS001)	[1543] And hairs growing out their toes and their legs and their underarms.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1544] They've got some coming out their big toes as well.
None (KPVPS001)	[1545] They have beards as well as
Inga (PS6RY)	[1546] It's such a British thing, isn't it? [1547] The way we talk. [laugh]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1548] I know you don't like that we put on people, but ...
None (KPVPS001)	[1549] Yeah, you say that, but you know, your, if you had underarm hair, no one would say hmm, [whispering] that man's got underarm hair [] I mean, it's quite alright, but for women to have underarm hair, it's just not.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1550] It's not fair, is it?
None (KPVPS001)	[1551] I mean, it's stupid you wax your, why do you wax your legs [...] it's so stupid. [1552] I mean, why don't you wax the whole of your body?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1553] But hair's normally a bit finer on your thighs, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1554] Mm.
None (KPVPS001)	[1555] Yeah, it is, but then you just, I think you get hair paranoid.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1556] Yeah, you do.
None (KPVPS001)	[1557] You just get
Anne (PS6RW)	[1558] I sit there with a pair of tweezers going ... my mum thinks you're so fussy, and I'm like [sniff] [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1559] Well, I did, or you tend to be, you used to be Claire, when you used to wax your legs. [1560] I mean, my legs have rarely seen a Bic razor you know, I'm gonna wear a pair of shorts in the summer, I might shave 'em, but I [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[1561] Yeah, but that's where [...] slightly different to me, cos I'm
Rebecca (PS586)	[1562] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1563] in shorts every day of the week in the gym for an hour, and I'm swimming
Rebecca (PS586)	[1564] Yeah, we know, yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1565] three times a week, so I'm in a swimming costume. [1566] So if I'm gonna have like, [...] [laugh]
Inga (PS6RY)	[1567] There's a gorilla coming into the room.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1568] Yeah. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1569] No, my hair my [...] [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[1570] Don't even think about the fat, but
Inga (PS6RY)	[1571] They normally, don't they?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1572] [...] on the hair.
Inga (PS6RY)	[1573] Help to make streamlining.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1574] It makes no difference, then if you've got fine hair,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1575] No, no.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1576] or light hair.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1577] [...] my legs, I suddenly realized when I was changing at the swimming pool, and thought oh sod it, who's gonna notice, I mean, at half past seven, I really can't get that excited about it. [1578] Nathan, who's the only bloke in our lane, but doesn't use contact lenses or anything, who's gonna notice,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1579] No, exactly, exactly.
None (KPVPS001)	[1580] Is he slightly coloured?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1581] Well. [laugh]
None (KPVPS001)	[1582] Pardon?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1583] Slightly coloured.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1584] Slightly coloured. [1585] Slightly comfortable or slightly coloured. [laugh]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1586] Dirty.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1587] [laughing] Thought you were gonna say slightly hairy [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1588] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1589] Is he slightly hairy? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[1590] Is Nathan,Pa like Pakistani sort of colour?
None (KPVPS001)	[1591] Yes, he is, but he hasn't ...
Anne (PS6RW)	[1592] He's not.
None (KPVPS001)	[1593] it's terrible to talk like this, he has got all the features, but [...] perhaps one of his characteristics erm, why he [...] .
Anne (PS6RW)	[1594] No, he hasn't, that's why I said slightly coloured, rather than Pakistani
None (KPVPS001)	[1595] I remember that one, Claire.
Inga (PS6RY)	[1596] He's not fully developed. [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[1597] What?
None (KPVPS001)	[1598] I remember that one, slightly sexy, [laugh] is he, is he [...] coloured? [1599] [laugh] Is he [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[1600] Yeah, but he's not, he doesn't look Pakistani, does he?
None (KPVPS001)	[1601] Yeah, I know.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1602] He doesn't look black and he's not white. [1603] So what do you call him? [...]
None (KPVPS001)	[1604] Well, I know, he's not Asian, but I think perhaps he's
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1605] What I don't understand is, changing the sub sorry, do you want to finish, first, [...] ?
None (KPVPS001)	[1606] No, I have finished.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1607] I don't think you have, I think I interrupted ...
None (KPVPS001)	[1608] No, I was just thinking, [...] carry on.
Inga (PS6RY)	[1609] I don't understand why some Asians, or some people that look as if they're Asian or Pakistani, actually come from Africa, because
None (KPVPS001)	[1610] They don't do they?
Inga (PS6RY)	[1611] They do. [1612] My boss [laugh] who is Pakistani, comes from Kenya.
None (KPVPS001)	[1613] Yeah, but he, perhaps he moved there, just as say, born there.
Inga (PS6RY)	[1614] If his parents came [...]
None (KPVPS001)	[1615] I think, these days, if somebody, it's like erm ...
Anne (PS6RW)	[1616] But there are a lot of ...
Inga (PS6RY)	[1617] But there's a lot of them, there is, there is a whole different erm ... I mean, he married a girl from Pakistan, [noise - background] who got in real trouble, both of them got in trouble with their parents for it, because he was a Kenyan Indian and she was an Indian Indian or something, I don't know. [1618] But ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[1619] All different [...] nowadays.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[1620] Okay there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1621] Doing the erm, old erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1622] Nathan [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1623] Yeah. [1624] I'm not doing anything really. [1625] I'm standing in the kitchen going kkeerr.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1626] Make out you're noisy. [...]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1627] Is he the guy whose doing [...] the other night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1628] Karate.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1629] Karate. [noise - background]
None (KPVPS001)	[1630] [...] body weights, has made him really keen, like, he's quite tubby, isn't he? [1631] Like [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1632] [...] else.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1633] Yeah, he's very keen,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1634] Three times a week or something.
None (KPVPS001)	[1635] He's there every time I'm there. [1636] But he's like, he's always doing, like he's never like comes up the lanes or anything, or swims about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1637] No.
None (KPVPS001)	[1638] Even when he meant to go swimming, he was like keeping up his [...] in the [...] lane. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1639] [...] yeah, he's there all weekend. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1640] Yeah, and he's really [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1641] And we always said, we'll see you tomorrow then, you know, we'll come swimming and we're never there, never get up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1642] Ah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1643] And erm, and, he just is always there, he's really reliable like that. [1644] [...] fun.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1645] Thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1646] That plant seems to have revived which is nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1647] [laugh] Pouring wine on it [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1648] Breathing toxic fumes on it.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1649] [...] chilli powder, it will be well away.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1650] I potted it up properly. [1651] Before I just put the pot it was in, sat it in, inside it, and it was, obviously wasn't getting enough water that way. [1652] It didn't reach the bottom [...] erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1653] No, no, couldn't get any.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1654] Aargh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1655] No, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1656] No, I didn't kill it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1657] [...] ground coffee today
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1658] [...] what?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1659] I said everyone wanted ground coffee today.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1660] Actually, we're having tea, Claire, what are you doing [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[1661] I'm not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1662] It's a very [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1663] Yeah, it is, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1664] Lovely.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1665] It is nice, mm, that's your latest acquisition?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1666] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1667] We've got the old one.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1668] Mm.
Inga (PS6RY)	[1669] Are you fed up with it yet?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1670] No, I think it's really comfy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1671] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1672] [...] isn't it.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1673] Don't give me that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1674] I mean it, I, I'm happy to sit on it, because it's the best yet.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1675] I have to say, that compared to other chairs, [...] [laugh]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1676] Yeah, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1677] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1678] We put the old ones,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1679] [...] mum's
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1680] Yeah, they've really cracked up, we threw them [...]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1681] They talk terrible.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[whispering] [...] []
Kitty (PS6RX)	[1682] Sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1683] Oh, did you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1684] Yeah, so ask me how we did it, I really don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1685] What did you, [...] buying furniture, there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1686] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1687] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1688] Yep.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1689] Which is really hard, cos it's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1690] Do you want to leave?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1691] That's great, no, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1692] It's gone, oh, I put it on earlier, that's why.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1693] Is that longer than you have it [...] the window there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1694] Oh. [breaking crockery]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1695] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1696] Sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1697] Don't worry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1698] That's okay,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1699] That's alright, it's probably the cheap ones, that's fine.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1700] Sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1701] That's okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1702] It's [...] red ones.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1703] Slid out, no, it's only glass.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1704] What's that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1705] Aha. [crockery noise]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1706] What is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1707] Oh, look the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1708] The bulbs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1709] Oh look, the bulbs [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1710] Should be able to stick that back.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1711] At least it's only one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1712] Yes, have you got some Araldite or something?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1713] At least, give it to my er my er stepmother and she'll disguise it for you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1714] Oh, really. [1715] Why, what she
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1716] Painter.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1717] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1718] So if you ever want anything [...] she'll [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1719] That's really good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1720] My body. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1721] Just here and here and
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1722] She'll disguise your legs. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1723] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1724] The hair on the hairs them, yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1725] Could she erm, bleach my hairs white and then just like, make them look like skin?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1726] Stick them down [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1727] Save lots of money and time. [music]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1728] It depends on your lifestyle you live, though, cos I got friends who are just like ... ah, I don't like ... and you have to excuse my hairy legs [...] running or something, I mean, I just like [...] they're like this, and they've got like black hair about this long, and I'm like ... oh my God, oh my God, you're just like [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1729] Yes. [1730] But it depends what she, she's, people like that mean to, cos I never wear anything li like trousers or long skirts and tights.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1731] And I like erm around in shorts every day, and I'm on the swimming pool side three times a week, so I don't have much choice.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1732] Before we got married I just thought I had I'd never had my legs shaved er, waxed before. [1733] So I [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1734] [laughing] I wanted to make sure they were long enough [] , and I went and started at Christmas, and I [...] , er, this is so gross, and I just felt the scummiest thing, it was sort of, it's not exactly how you wanna feel just before you get married, and then I went and had my legs shaved ... er waxed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1735] Waxed
Rebecca (PS586)	[1736] In fact, I got so much dirt,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1737] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1738] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1739] Is this two lots in here?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1740] Er,
None (KPVPS000)	[1741] Sorry?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1742] Just one full. [1743] I did it very full, that's all.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1744] What did you think when they waxed them, especially.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1745] I wasn't terribly impressed, actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1746] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1747] No. [1748] I was a bit disappointed. [1749] But maybe I'm just a perfectionist, I don't know. [1750] Then when you shave, it's so ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1751] Is it bruised, or anything?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1752] No, I, I mean I looked a, like a bit of a plucked chicken every day, but ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1753] Yeah, you do.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1754] [...] had it done in the afternoon, that's okay, but I mean [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1755] You don't think I shall erm, [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1756] [...] you can't go in the sea for about two days, and you can't go in the sun [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1757] [...] painful ain't it? [1758] No. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1759] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1760] Wahey.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1761] They've got a new erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1762] Special razor.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1763] razor, apparently
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1764] Yeah, that's right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1765] new American one that you hold like that, and you just go,swi swi
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1766] Big [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1767] Yeah, that's right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1768] Scrubbing brush.
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1769] My mum [...] couldn't believe it when I shaved my legs, thought it absolutely outrageous. [1770] What are you doing, I said, I'm just shaving my legs.
None (KPVPS000)	[1771] [...] If I nick my face I think there's a
Rebecca (PS586)	[1772] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1773] blood bath.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1774] [...] [laugh] I have been known to erm, one time only, actually I can't do that, oh, but I do bath [...] t t t t
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1775] Granny razor.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1776] One like this, and I had a like gash about two inches up my legs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1777] Yeah, I've done that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1778] Go on, the other day,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1779] [...] usually it's me,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1780] did exactly the same, and I walked around with scabs two inches long.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1781] Yeah, the first thing I've ever [...] the first time I've shaved my legs, I forgot the water. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1782] Yeah, I did that. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1783] Oh. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1784] I did it [...] as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1785] [...] I'll never do that again, oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1786] [...] if you can do it out of the bath, so I thought, oh, that's it, get the razor
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1787] You don't need water ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1788] It's going shh, like this, and it's exactly what I did, and my sister came in and she's going, what're you doing? [1789] And I said I'm shaving my legs. [1790] It was just like, you know, I'm really grown up now, I'm shaving my legs. [1791] And she said, but you haven't got any soap or any cream or anything. [1792] You know, just [...] oh, do you need it? [1793] She said, yes [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[1794] Oh, it's a nightmare [...] girls.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1795] The only thing is when you're doing it, you don't notice, you know three hours later, and you've got this raw leg and nice straight lines and you're [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1796] In fact, stripy where you've missed bits. [1797] [laughing] The normal leg and the raw bits []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [noise - background]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1798] Yeah, [...] about. [1799] At my parents house, erm, in that, we've had an extension in there, so the garden's not there any more, but erm, I used, the light used to come in from the windows, so of at, at the angle to the bath, so I couldn't lift my leg up, so I rub it gently like this, and I'd watch the [...] told me where I missed bits and [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1800] Oh no. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[1801] The thing is, I don't think I would have shaved my legs now, cos I'd feel too guilty. [1802] I just cut my legs [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1803] Against your religion is it, Claire?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1804] Yeah, I've just had my legs waxed for so long, [music in background] and people have said to me don't ever wax, don't ever shave your legs, because it will grow back thicker, and it will grow back prickly, and I, you know, it is fairly fair
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1805] Probably is true, it would grow ...
Anne (PS6RW)	[1806] and soft, but I mean, so now I just feel like if I [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1807] [...] that long, I wouldn't bother.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1808] No. [1809] But even so,la last night I got my legs wet, and I just went, Oh, never again, I'm just not in the mood. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1810] [...] a bit of a pain shaving in the shower though.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1811] What. [1812] I don't do my legs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1813] Oh, don't you?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1814] [...] dries them. [1815] But I just do it very quickly. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1816] Sarah prefers shaving in the shower. [1817] It seems so [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1818] [...] legs, sort of, bend down my legs, and you can't see [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1819] I like shaving in the shower.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1820] Yeah, but you can put [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1821] I like shaving in the wardrobe I find it [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1822] Is that all, I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that. [1823] Cos I find, [...] a bit weird when I first started.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1824] Do you, do you shave in the shower, you never shave in the shower?
None (KPVPS000)	[1825] No, I started [...] it saves time in the morning.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1826] Yeah, it's great. [1827] It really is.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1828] You spend hours, depends, you know, how long, when we go in the bathroom, standing there doing [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1829] You take hours.
None (KPVPS000)	[1830] Get rid of those damps spots [...] as well. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1831] You do take ages.
None (KPVPS000)	[1832] Those wax strips. [1833] [laugh] I can pull them off [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1834] Do my contact lenses and you know, I'll bath, we'll both, we seem to be in the bathroom for hours ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1835] Mm
Rebecca (PS586)	[1836] absolutely hours.
None (KPVPS000)	[1837] I can't get under ten minutes in the morning to sha to have a shave.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1838] Oh, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1839] [...] to get a camera.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1840] [...] adorable, wouldn't he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1841] What do you mean don't, I do, I do, anyway, actually [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1842] You've left your razor out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1843] [...] couldn't we?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1844] [laughing] you do anyway []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1845] The thing is, you can just get too paranoid, can't you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1846] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1847] [...] all go home now, at midnight [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1848] Get the lawnmower out. [1849] m m mutilating people [...] all these legs everywhere.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1850] Sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1851] This is such hard work, I find. [1852] I was, I think I was a little self disorganized the other night, [...] add things [...] eight attacks, and all sorts of strange things,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1853] Make up in there, yeah [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1854] Now I don't have time and I don't bother.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1855] Yeah, I was most [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1856] Thing is [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1857] I just couldn't buy it any more.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1858] And reading those terrible things, that you're [...] for dead, and you have to get up at so many different times.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1859] Yeah, lemon juice and hot water.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1860] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1861] [...] a bit of cucumber on your nose.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1862] [...] bathroom put your cucumber face back on and things like that. [1863] [laugh] I mean, no, I can't be bothered sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1864] Another boy went down, was so disgustingly [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1865] Well, I reckon that lot [...] yourself for what you are.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1866] Got a shower in, and when you were sixteen you don't know what you are [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1867] Yes, get on with today, I need my breakfast.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1868] Make people accept you, but when you are a bit older
Rebecca (PS586)	[1869] [...] when you think of changing, don't you,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1870] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1871] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1872] and then you suddenly realize when you're nineteen ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1873] You are who you are.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1874] and it's, if you have a face pack, it's not going make you look like Audrey Hepburn anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1875] So might as well forget it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1876] And just you know, it's ridiculous.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1877] Oh, isn't it, oh, sorry [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1878] Oh dear, we'll have to do something about this.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1879] And even if you lose two and a half stone, you're still not gonna look like, you know, some skinny model because you're still gonna be about six foot wide with your hips and your shoulders, but I mean, you're just gonna have gangly longer legs and walk around like this.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1880] And be really unhappy because you've got [...] on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1881] Yeah, exactly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1882] Very depressing isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1883] And you can't exercise, because you've never got any energy. [1884] [laughing] Can't get out of bed [] .
None (KPVPS000)	[1885] My guess is [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1886] I think the answer is work an hour a day
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1887] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1888] Yeah, for ten thousand pounds an hour or so.
None (KPVPS000)	[1889] And then they can hire a personal physician, or whatever they are
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1890] To suck it all out.
None (KPVPS000)	[1891] to erm, yes, to suck it all out, [...] it up, or
Rebecca (PS586)	[1892] Grow up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1893] Cellulite removal.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1894] Train them or something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1895] They see it all, anyway. [...] [clears throat]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1896] [...] is well over six foot tall,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1897] Oh, here's this photograph with, of erm, Naomi Campbell's bottom in it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1898] She hasn't got a bottom.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1899] I'm surprised, [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1900] Naomi Campbell's a pain in the a
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1901] Yeah, but a lot of people [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1902] [...] in trouble, isn't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1903] Didn't she get kicked out by her [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1904] Yeah, well, she said she, she told them where to go, and they said they [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1905] Told her where to go.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1906] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1907] She's writing up, she's writing her erm, autobiography now.
None (KPVPS000)	[1908] It's already out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1909] Oh, is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1910] In that erm, in that mermaid outfit, and earning some ridiculous amount of money for an hour, while other models went up and down a catwalk for a tenth of the money, or something. [1911] Do you remember, did you see that thingy?
None (KPVPS000)	[1912] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1913] Sat in that stripy, mermaid thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1914] [...] you the other gest the other plate
Rebecca (PS586)	[1915] Stupid, I don't see how anybody can earn, to afford that, you know, to accept that amount of money. [1916] With all, with the world the way it is. [1917] It's disgusting.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1918] That's what we were saying today, weren't we, yeah. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1919] [...] oh well, I support this charity [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[1920] Cos they do actually er deserve all the money they get.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1921] Is this Cindy Crawford? [1922] Supports erm dodgy challenger.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1923] They all support something.
None (KPVPS000)	[1924] Yeah, they all tend to be environmentally friendly, it's quite sick.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1925] In Papua New Guinea or something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1926] [...] their parents, but it's like when they're modelling in their bikini and they have to go, oh, I love the environment and erm, I support this charity, thank you very much, and I love world, and that's it. [1927] They just go backwards, and they er
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1928] Yeah, yeah, I love you all, right.
None (KPVPS000)	[1929] They're not particularly
Rebecca (PS586)	[1930] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1931] interested in the charity they support.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1932] It's a bit like Miss World, innit, and they never [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1933] They're, they're, they are not really there for their charitable concerns.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1934] No. [1935] They're just out to get the money, aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1936] They look wonderful in their bikini.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1937] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1938] And they like going on holiday [...] oh and a pretty tiara.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1939] And I like a man with lots of muscles and [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1940] And they're the ones with yachts [...] [music]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1941] Get off me, [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1942] That girl, erm, is it Kate Moss isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1943] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1944] Looks like new, girl.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1945] We're waiting for a model.
None (KPVPS000)	[1946] She's just like a french stick, isn't she?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1947] Who is this?
None (KPVPS000)	[1948] Kate Moss, she's a New Zealand girl.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1949] I wouldn't mind looking like that now. [1950] I must admit.
None (KPVPS000)	[1951] Oh, come on.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1952] Er, she's horrible. [1953] She's so ugly, Claire.
None (KPVPS000)	[1954] Absolutely repulsive to look at.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1955] Naomi Campbell. [1956] No, erm Kate Moss.
Anne (PS6RW)	[1957] Kate Moss.
None (KPVPS000)	[1958] Really, she's a [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1959] She's not [...] ten year old, is she?
Anne (PS6RW)	[1960] Yeah,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1961] Yeah [...] supposed to look like that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1962] I think she looks nice really, because she does look very young, she's only about turned sixteen, isn't she?
None (KPVPS000)	[1963] She does look like a girl rather than a woman
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1964] Yeah. [1965] She's really young. [1966] She's got all these men leering over her, I just think it's really perverse.
Rebecca (PS586)	[1967] But in a way then, they shouldn't, they shouldn't make such a big thing about all these skinny models, then, because, like, if you look at all these magazines and stuff, all these basically beautiful women are all like, you know, very, very thin, very very tall.
None (KPVPS000)	[1968] Yeah. [1969] That's what they seem to be going towards now, aren't they?
Rebecca (PS586)	[1970] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[1971] For the blokes as well
Rebecca (PS586)	[1972] And if you don't fit into that category, you're just not accepted, and you're just like, ugly. [1973] [laugh] and so everyone like, wishes they would look like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1974] It's really bad.
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1975] It starts really young, with erm, toys like Barbie Doll, who's incredibly thin, and I think that's just disgusting.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1976] It's coming out beautiful and [...] me then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1977] All the men are like Kens,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1978] But it's just so sexual as well, you know, for children from four upwards, I just think it's really bad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1979] How far [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1980] [laughing] No, that's true []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1981] And, look at Ken, I mean, he hasn't even got any genitals. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1982] Yeah, I mean he's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1983] [...] Ken though [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1984] No, I had an Action Man, because I got, I inherited my brother's [...] and his eyes went ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1985] It was, it was for the
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1986] and his arms went like this ... and his [...] aargh [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1987] And he had his scars.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1988] and he had his scars like this, and his ankle went like that, and his arms went like that, and [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1989] He had a funny knee [...] as well
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1990] He had a very pert bottom, though, didn't he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1991] Yes, he had a [...] and they all liked Simon, and [...] note the hair, the role model, obviously
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1992] [...] hairs all over them, sort of asexual, they're not really any sex [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1993] Yeah, exactly, and erm, you know [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1994] [...] quite a good idea, like free, if you had to erm, speak to a teddy bear [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[1995] Yeah, that's a [...] . [1996] Coloured
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1997] Exactly,
None (KPVPS000)	[1998] man or whatever.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[1999] Exactly, I mean I [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2000] [...] teddy bear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2001] Oh my life.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2002] So I put teddy in the first [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2003] He's twice the size.
None (KPVPS000)	[2004] Which is a good thing, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2005] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2006] It's just stupid.
None (KPVPS000)	[2007] I didn't realize I was multi-racial [...] side of it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2008] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2009] I don't know whether that, I mean surely that's what they mean, so
None (KPVPS000)	[2010] Yeah, I hope so.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2011] Yeah. [music]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2012] When even such as, you know, not necessarily black people find it, say black kid and black dog.
None (KPVPS000)	[2013] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2014] But you know, [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2015] I just think [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2016] Sorry, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2017] I was just going to say, I was just saying, that I saw the posters that erm parents and carers should erm, go along to talk about parenting [...] and at the bottom it said, erm, will be selling multi-racial toys and dolls and things like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2018] Do we need the [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2019] [...] people like, mm, I'm not scared.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2020] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2021] Yes, you do.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2022] I mean, when I, when I was a kid I got, erm, I was given an Australian doll baby, and which was funny cos it had an amazing sun tan and dark blue eyes and blonde hair, like typical Ozzie child.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2023] Really? [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2024] Yeah, great, that's really great.
None (KPVPS000)	[2025] Dazzling white teeth.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2026] And, presumably you had an Aborigine [...] I don't know, it's very odd. [2027] But I think we should, [music ends] it's like today, where was I, Battersea area, I think and it's the first shop I'd seen that actually had Chinese model manikins in the window, I thought they were sw pretty unusual.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2028] Oh, really?
None (KPVPS000)	[2029] There's a big Chinese er department store opened up, wasn't there?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2030] There is one in London, just off erm, Leicester Square ... as well. [2031] There's like only Chinese and Japanese people in the shop. [2032] We walked in, and we felt like going, sorry, as if we were like disturbing something. [2033] We walked out again. [2034] It was really weird.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2035] Is that that [...] one?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2036] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2037] Is it erm, a hall, is it a precinct?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2038] Yeah. [2039] It's like a precinct, it sells loads of bags and scarves and purses and all sorts of other things, and you go through the shop, like and that's the first thing you see. [2040] It's really strange. [sniff]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2041] [...] it's just odd, isn't it, you just don't realize how
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2042] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2043] racist, our country is
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2044] Yeah,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2045] You don't think about having black dolls,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2046] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2047] My mum, my mum was saying that erm, at Maria's playgroup, they were erm, they got, they got a ticking off, because of, they said to them you know you really should be introducing black dolls to the children, which is fair enough, but they also [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2048] Try that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2049] Thank you, that's lovely, that's great.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2050] which I thought was a bit over the top, they said that, you know, where you have [...] pretend foods, you should really have like [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2051] Oh, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2052] Yes. [2053] And ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2054] That's not English food, I'm sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2055] No, yeah, I know, you know to cater for the
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2056] That is, that is different, that is
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2057] [...] ethnic origins, yeah, I thought that was a bit over the top. [2058] Well, my mum said it was a bit pathetic, you know, it's almost like, you know, erm, the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2059] And who's gonna sell a fake [...] , I'm sorry. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2060] What is it mummy? [2061] It's a chapatti.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2062] Do you want them to play with like whatever money comes from those countries, you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2063] Yeah. [2064] But it's honestly, erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2065] No, I'm sorry, we've got to play with rupees. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2066] Rupees today, girls, and boys, sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2067] But then if you, if you
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2068] Sorry [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2069] [...] sorry
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2070] go into the Asian, if you go Asian community, it's amazing like, [...] the sort of leftish area, or something. [2071] How sort of, seven out of ten of the shops for clothes are just selling the saris
None (KPVPS000)	[2072] To me
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2073] [...] the women's, and like,
None (KPVPS000)	[2074] Mm. [2075] Mm.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[2076] It starts in Bradford.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2077] You're in an English country and how many of the actual English people will go out and buy a sari.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2078] I just think it, I just think it's so sad, like in London, it has so many cultures, and like, wow, it's really good for the cultures to mix, but it doesn't work,
None (KPVPS000)	[2079] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2080] because you have the Turkish in one, you have the
None (KPVPS000)	[2081] Yep.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2082] Jews in another, and then the blacks, and you just think what a shame, if they all mix and you feel like, when I was in erm, working in North London, you had the Turkish and the Jewish people
None (KPVPS000)	[2083] Golders Green.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2084] And then you had yuppies, but nobody mixed, and the feeling, if you went down to the Turkish [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2085] In Golders Green.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2086] No, this was near erm, Stoke Newington,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2087] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2088] Islington area, [...] and you felt really unsafe, and I just felt how awful. [2089] You know, here was a chance to er,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2090] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2091] mingle, learn so much, and you don't. [2092] I thought it was a shame ...
None (KPVPS000)	[2093] There's some coffee and some cheese and biscuits.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2094] And there's more wine as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2095] Oh my God.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2096] If you'd like cheese and biscuits with wine.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[2097] Wine and cheese and biscuits and coffee.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2098] The coffee's in a flask, so it won't go cold.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2099] Oh, gosh, that's posh
Kitty (PS6RX)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2100] Can I serve any more coffee?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2101] There's chocolates as well. [2102] Don't need to [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2103] Thank you. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2104] [...] George bought them and you're meant to save them, and savour them tomorrow.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2105] Yeah, we go out, after we're gone and you can't be bothered to eat.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2106] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2107] We had somebody round for dinner on Thursday and bought us a box of After Eight Mints and I think they lasted five minutes [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2108] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2109] I stayed up all night,
None (KPVPS000)	[2110] Do you want some milk?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2111] Did you watch the film?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2112] studying. [2113] So I ate them as well.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2114] What do you do then,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2115] No, thank you.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2116] I opened a bottle of wine, I know this is a very strange question, but when somebody brings a bottle of wine, do you open that first, or do you open [...] ? [2117] Somebody once said to me they think it's really rude if they didn't bring wine to a, to a dinner party and then they don't have to have to drink it. [2118] Somebody else said, well no, if you don't open the bottle of wine immediately [...] it looks like [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2119] I said this.
None (KPVPS000)	[2120] [...] accept it
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2121] Yeah, cos you brought a bottle round here, when [...] really weird.
None (KPVPS000)	[2122] I think it depends.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2123] Depends on how well you know them, I suppose.
None (KPVPS000)	[2124] I think it depends, if, if it's red, whether you've got time to let it breathe properly, and if it's white whether it's got time to, to be chilled properly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2125] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2126] What if it's really [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2127] Charlotte.
None (KPVPS001)	[2128] like a really cold bottle of white wine, would you. [2129] You haven't opened a bottle of wine, you've got one there, and I've brought in a bottle of wine. [2130] Would you think, I have to open Charlotte's first, because they brought it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2131] If you brought a bottle of white and I got a bottle of white ready, if I hadn't opened it, I'd open yours.
None (KPVPS001)	[2132] Would you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2133] Yes, I would. [2134] If it was nice and cold or I'd put it in the freezer, then open the other one. [2135] But
None (KPVPS000)	[2136] Well actually, we put ours in the fridge before we ...
Kitty (PS6RX)	[2137] I, I think with four of you, you're gonna get through two bottles anyway, so it doesn't matter which one.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2138] [...] like the other day, Charlotte, you brought
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2139] you brought, did you bring white, you brought a bottle with you anyway.
None (KPVPS001)	[2140] Did I?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2141] I'm sure.
None (KPVPS001)	[2142] When I came round for coffee. [2143] No. [2144] When you came round [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2145] No, when you and Ben, I think it was when erm,
None (KPVPS001)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2146] yeah, I think so, and you brought a bottle anyway.
None (KPVPS001)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2147] I'm sure it was you who brought it, and we didn't open it because we were eating, we wanted to have the opposite colour to what you brought, [...] that what you ...
None (KPVPS001)	[2148] [...] very much, yeah anyway, yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2149] so we didn't open yours, and when you left, I thought oh no, they're gonna think we're really rude, because we still got their bottle of wine, and we didn't drink it.
None (KPVPS001)	[2150] No, I didn't think that, you see I don't worry about that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2151] Oh, that's good.
None (KPVPS001)	[2152] We had somebody over for dinner, didn't we and they actually brought a bottle of wine, and we said oh yeah, well, cos we know him quite well, we said oh what shall we have? [2153] Do you remember. [2154] And he said, oh what kind of wine have you got? [2155] And we said something really really cheap and he said, oh what, I think we'll start with mine, then.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2156] Oh really?
Inga (PS6RY)	[2157] Oh, Richard, Richard
None (KPVPS001)	[2158] Yeah we were really embarrassed, he said, because I'm not keen on erm,
Inga (PS6RY)	[2159] I hate that [...] I must say.
None (KPVPS001)	[2160] ours is really cheap is it Aust is it Australian or Bulgarian or something. [2161] It was quite cheap, though, and he said, erm, I think we'll start with mine, because I always find Bulgarian a little bit acidic, and we'd bought this bottle, and we both went out to the kitchen and both said gosh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2162] That's really rude.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2163] That's awful.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2164] Yeah.
None (KPVPS001)	[2165] And, he was really rude about it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2166] The best thing to do, is like, they bring what sort of wine,yo they want, and then put some in the fridge and then just say, look do you want dry or sweet.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2167] I'm sorry, does, does anyone want sugar?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2168] Yeah, that's it, they wont taste the difference anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2169] Er
Rebecca (PS586)	[2170] Does anyone take sugar?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2171] No thank you.
None (KPVPS001)	[2172] But that was really embarrassing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2173] We went to some friend's house, erm, and I,th this was ages ago, I'd erm, done some wedding ...
None (KPVPS000)	[2174] Claire, it's not too strong, is it?
Anne (PS6RW)	[2175] No, it's really nice.
None (KPVPS000)	[2176] [...] put some more water with it.
Anne (PS6RW)	[2177] I like it really strong.
None (KPVPS000)	[2178] Mm.
Anne (PS6RW)	[2179] I don't like [...]
None (KPVPS001)	[2180] I'd done some wedding stationery for a friend, and I'd painted two hundred and twenty pieces, er erm, sheets of wedding stationery for her, with erm, bud roses and things, I think I might have shown you one, actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2181] Mm.
None (KPVPS001)	[2182] Did I show you that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2183] I saw them, yeah.
None (KPVPS001)	[2184] And erm ... at their wedding reception, they gave us erm, a trad [...] local bottle of wine from the bar, erm, she got married in a bar and they, apparently they've got vineyards there. [2185] Anyway, so they gave us a bottle of wine. [2186] We took it round to a friend's, didn't we? [2187] For a meal, and like, we were really keen to try this and everything, and we, we didn't, we sort of kept saying, oh shall we open this bottle tonight, and they said no, we'll save it for a special occasion. [2188] So we thought, go see these friends, haven't seen them for ages, we'll take it with us, and they didn't open it, and we were really upset, because we, it was a present [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS001)	[2189] [...] wanted to enjoy it and we wanted to share it with our friends.
None (KPVPS000)	[2190] Share it with our friends, yeah.
None (KPVPS001)	[2191] So we went in the door, and just sort of said, yeah we had, we'd kept it ages hadn't we? [2192] And we said erm, we said, oh, we've brought this bottle, to er, because erm, and we explained, like whatever,
Inga (PS6RY)	[2193] Mm.
None (KPVPS001)	[2194] I mean, to open it, they, they just sort of didn't twig, but like, they're the sort of people that [...] wine, cos [laughing] Mark's [] got a really bad influence on these people, he gets them ... he gets everybody really drunk.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2195] Everybody that comes into his house, sort of wobbl sort of wobbles out of the door.
None (KPVPS001)	[2196] He's never short of wine. [2197] He's never ever short of any [...] at all.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2198] He just keeps topping your glass up all the time, it's quite naughty, really.
None (KPVPS000)	[2199] Like your dad. [laugh]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2200] [...] Charlotte's place isn't it? [2201] Alan's [...] pouring the wine out all the time, yeah, you can't keep away from it, yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2202] Nick's dad's like that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2203] My dad's awful.
None (KPVPS000)	[2204] He erm, he bought a wine box in, when they were in France.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2205] Oh that was awful, that was.
None (KPVPS000)	[2206] And it was, it was really cheap, I mean, it was a sort of a rose and I think the whole box only cost him, one pound fifty, or something, you could probably run your car off it. [2207] [laugh] But erm, but he just kept filling our glasses up all the time, didn't he? [2208] I think that between me and him, we got through the, nearly the whole wine box. [2209] And erm,
Rebecca (PS586)	[2210] Dad offers the wine [...] I mean, you don't notice, because he's like hovering around you so often,
None (KPVPS000)	[2211] Yeah, he sort of sneaks, sneaks round everybody when they're looking the other way. [2212] And after about seven glasses [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2213] I think he [...] from driving, I just, I just don't like, [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2214] I got [...] absolutely [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2215] dad was driving, and he was like when he can't [...] calm down, because my mum gets all like raged [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2216] What do you [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2217] so he could've, then he doesn't, he doesn't manage give them any more.
None (KPVPS000)	[2218] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2219] Instead of buying us a present, from erm, my mum bought me a few bits and pieces when they went to France. [2220] My dad got Phil a big case of beers. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2221] That was [...] wasn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2222] Oh, yes, yes, yes.
None (KPVPS000)	[2223] That's great.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2224] It was brilliant. [2225] That's a very good idea, actually.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2226] We decided, some of our friends from church we were going [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2227] [...] down here.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2228] and car, get the ferry over, and erm, just erm, [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2229] So we said to take Charlotte [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2230] oh no, we did didn't we?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2231] It's possible. [2232] What are you gonna do about that?
None (KPVPS000)	[2233] Well, I keep waiting for one of these free offers to come in the newspaper.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2234] Where you go for a pound.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2235] The Telegraph.
None (KPVPS000)	[2236] Yeah, yeah. [2237] Is it the Telegraph?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2238] That's in the Telegraph.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2239] Oh it's the Sun as well, they do it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2240] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2241] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2242] I don't care what newspaper it is, I'll buy it. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2243] You have to buy seven yoghurts so then you can take your car [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2244] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2245] Mm. [2246] It's good, though.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2247] I know that's good because we were all gonna go, cos I'm doing a French course last year at college, and we were going over with that one pound, you know each, with a car load offer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2248] Who was that, they did erm, a trip to Holland for the last year, didn't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2249] Yeah, that was quite good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2250] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2251] Well, I, I wanna go skiing as well, so you get more than a day trip.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2252] You guys [...] [music]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2253] I think you'll be going on your own, Phil.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2254] You been before, [...] skiing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2255] Yeah, I've been lots of times.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2256] Did you enjoy it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2257] Yeah, I did. [2258] Yeah, I like it a lot.
None (KPVPS000)	[2259] I wake up and I, I think about it all day long.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2260] I just, I just have got to the stage now where I've been er, I can't remember it's five or six times, and I think, I'm not going to get any better.
None (KPVPS000)	[2261] Yes, you are.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2262] I'm not. [2263] It's ridiculous to say I am gonna get, like I [...] as far as like, grace [...] absolutely ludicrous. [2264] I would never ever ever look graceful coming down the slope.
None (KPVPS000)	[2265] Yes, you will.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2266] Do you like going to dry ski slopes for lessons?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2267] I think, no, I mean been, I always had lessons every time I've been. [2268] I mean, it's not, it's not
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2269] For the weak at heart [...] actually go, then I [...] when you got there [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2270] No, that's true. [2271] Well, I think the thing for me is I don't feel like I have to look brilliant, I just like to have a good time. [2272] That's fair enough, but I just, I don't know, I'm just feeling like I wanna go and visit places, I don't want to be stuck in the snow. [2273] Cos, I have never never
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2274] I used to be like that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2275] been on hol holidays. [2276] I've always been skiing with my parents, so I've been to America to visit friends, and that's not been like sightseeing, or something, and I just haven't been anywhere, and erm, I mean, I suppose I've been to a lot more countries than a lot of people who've, you know, there's a lot of people who haven't ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2277] [...] did you say you haven't been abroad much? [2278] Did you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2279] I haven't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2280] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2281] I haven't been abroad much.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2282] No, right. [2283] That's alright.
None (KPVPS000)	[2284] I've been skiing [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2285] I know a lot of people you meet, and they just say, oh no, I've never been abroad. [2286] But I'm, I can't say I've not been abroad. [2287] I've been to lots of places, but I've never really been to visit countries and experience countries and, except for France, perhaps. [2288] I've been to Germany and Austria skiing, I've been to, er we went to Italy but I was, you know, I was quite a bit younger and it wasn't for very long. [2289] So I've been to Rome and places like that. [2290] The sights. [2291] You know, I've been to the sights, but I just feel like I want to go travelling, I don't want to go skiing again. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2292] No. [2293] I'd say, you might be on your own there. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2294] I mean, I do, I'd love it, if we went, I mean, I'd really enjoy myself, and have a really great laugh, cos that's what [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2295] You would, you would, you liar. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2296] but, but, to me going, going skiing is just I mean like, it doesn't ... there's nothing different each time we go. [2297] You can have a good laugh with different people
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2298] I think when you go skiing, you must go with a with a group of erm, group of people.
None (KPVPS000)	[2299] Yeah, but you don't you don't need anything different though, once you get up in that mountain environment, you got this bright sunny morning ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[2300] Yes, but you could go anywhere in the world, skiing, and it will still
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2301] be exactly the same, whereas if you go visiting different parts of Europe and the world, you always have different experiences.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2302] Yeah, you could pop up to Scotland for a few days.
None (KPVPS000)	[2303] Blooming cold skiing in Scotland though, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2304] They won't even walk down the road [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2305] When, when you're skiing in the Alps, [...] it's so hot,
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2306] and you get, get such a lovely suntan.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2307] That's what we want. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2308] Have you been, Julienne?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[2309] Yeah, there was a sunbed round the corner probably.
None (KPVPS000)	[2310] [...] March, he was, sort of, really brown.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2311] [...] in their school trips.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2312] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2313] When was that?
None (KPVPS000)	[2314] Why isn't, I just love being in the mountains, I mean, it's just, I daydream about it so much [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2315] We went to erm, [...] somewhere in France,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2316] To do skiing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2317] Yeah, with the college [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2318] I love going
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2319] I know, ah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2320] to the mountains to climb and walk
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2321] Yeah. [2322] And that sort of thing, because then you're really achieving something and you see different places and you go different places. [2323] Whereas, I don't know, I think just [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2324] [...] going up and down the same place every day [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2325] [...] brilliant fun, I'm not saying it's not,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2326] You wanna go on a summer trip to Austria.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2327] If someone said, you could go sk skiing free for the rest of your life, I'd go. [2328] I'd just think, absolutely excellent you have a really great laugh, but just wanna do [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2329] Also skiing's bloody expensive, isn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2330] Yes, exactly.
None (KPVPS000)	[2331] Well, I mean, if we, if we did it with the free ferry, and there's a possibility we might be able to get fairly cheap accommodation if we drove over there and stayed. [2332] Really all we'd have to pay for is the fuel and the lift pass. [2333] So you can have a week's holiday for ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[2334] Have you got the kit?
None (KPVPS000)	[2335] Well, I've got boots. [2336] I haven't got skis, though. [2337] You can hire them.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2338] You could borrow my dad's, though.
None (KPVPS000)	[2339] Yeah, they [...] as much as hire.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2340] You only have to rebind 'em. [2341] Doesn't make any difference [...] , and I could borrow my mum's.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2342] There is a big difference, though [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2343] You've been skiing before?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2344] Yeah, we, I skied in Cyprus. [2345] Because, you know, I'd never been skiing before, so I went out all togged up, with like, my tights sort of, like, you know, thermal tights and you know, pair of track suits, sort of bottoms, plus plastic overtop and then I had like, sort of thermal top on, plus the [...] that's a sort of like, T-shirt, plus the polo-neck plus a jumper, plus a sort of like erm, a sort of sheepskin waistcoat and, and jacket and then this plastic thing over the top. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2346] [...] about fifteen pounds.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2347] I was up going on the ski slope, and this is like, I've been up a couple of times before, but it had been really cold and bi and I went at Easter, I was so like hot, but it's still really good snow, and we went up there and I just couldn't believe it, I just went dad, erm, oh, I don't feel too good, and he just went, don't be so stupid, and Nathan and I collapsed, I was at the front of this queue waiting for the ski lift and the whole queue just went [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2348] And this bloke comes up to me and goes, hi, I'm a ski instructor, I was just like hmm [laugh] like, takes all my clothes off. [2349] [laugh] Yeah, great. [2350] But then, it's a big difference between skiing abroad and you know, like staying somewhere like Cyprus skiing in Scotland, it's true, but I mean, it's like the first, I mean, my dad's typical, sort of, get to the top of the hill and give you a good shove, you know, give you one time to go down a bit slowly and then after that you just get to the top [...] ski downhill phhhh. [2351] [laugh] And you don't really learn that much because it's just a matter of get to the top, and put your skis facing down, and
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2352] Survival course.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2353] survival course down and try not to take any trees.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2354] I've managed to erm, the first time we went skiing is when we lived in the States, we went to [...] like, er, not dry ski slopes there, but it was like false snow, that's the same as you ... erm, [laugh] they were really, was like eleven years ago, sort of like, technology hadn't quite advanced terribly much, you know, and these bindings, you had like, metal clips on the bottom of your boots, and you had to put the thing in and clip the boot, clip the thing round on the skis, to keep your boot on the ski, right, it wasn't like toe clips where you shove your foot,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2355] I know, yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2356] and put your heel down and it clips up the back, it was like
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2357] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2358] clamp from the middle, and erm, [laughing] I used to carry like down the thing and I just got really out of control, went all over the place, like skis up in the air [] and one of them came off and the thing, actually, ripped off er, bottom of my boot. [2359] Like this metal plate in the skis
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2360] Oh, I see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2361] I couldn't go anywhere. [2362] I only had one ski, and I couldn't walk down. [2363] So when my dad had to ski all the way down to the bottom, while I'm sitting on the side of this bloody slide. [2364] [laugh] I was practically up at the top as well, I was really pissed off, just sitting there for like, for two hours, whilst my dad went all the way down to the bottom of this thing. [2365] Got this man to come up with his screwdrivers and his this, that and the other.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2366] His glue, to stick the sole back one. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2367] I tell you though, if you're gonna hurt yourself skiing, you can really hurt yourself. [2368] Because, I've, I've been in it, and I was like in these like, really tight ski pants, they're like a pair of like, [...] like really badly, like sprained your legs. [2369] And I went over, and I like, I went, my skis stayed on, and I like somersaulted over and my skis stayed on and I pulled the whole of my leg, it was black from just above my knee to there and it's like just black my whole leg. [2370] But because I was in like really really tight tights, er like and then a pair of ski pants over the top er, my whole leg was like, you know, sort of soaked in [...] and this bloke was there going, hee, that's pretty impressive and I was like, I'm not going to let him know I was crying [laughing] and like got up and went to the top of the slope [] and I carried on skiing for about an extra half an hour, but like when I got home, and I just took off, my whole leg started, feet swelling as I took the like, the tight like leggings off. [2371] I was just like aargh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2372] It is really a dangerous sport though, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2373] It is, it is dang and people don't realize how, they're like oh the snow's soft, but [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2374] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2375] [...] if anything they're like a spray snow. [2376] So many people [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2377] And the longer you get skiing really really piss me off, because it's the famous drink driver, it really is, I'm sorry, drink [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2378] [laughing] They should have big learners on the back as well
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2379] Honestly, it really is, is too dangerous.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2380] Ski plates, neeow, neeow, neeow.
None (KPVPS000)	[2381] When you, when you stop, at lunch lunchtimes, in the restaurant you get this big hot steaming mug of [...] mulled wine
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2382] and it's just so moreish, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2383] Yeah, but a lot of that, a lot of alcohol evaporates off of that anyway, so it's not that alcoholic.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2384] You just die in an avalanche. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2385] I think I'd ski better if I was drunk, actually.
None (KPVPS000)	[2386] I, I found I skied better in the afternoon, now. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2387] Was you like, scared?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2388] I was petrified the time I went skiing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2389] Were you? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2390] Pick me up. [2391] It took me fifty five minutes to get into those awful [...] to get up to the top. [2392] [laugh] It was only a ten minute thing, and everybody, cos I was the last one, of course, out of us, a group of twenty, and was so like freezing at the top of this mountain, I wasn't exactly popular.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2393] During the day ah. [2394] She'd missed about twenty [laugh] keeps coming along, [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2395] When Phil and I, the first time we'd been skiing together, so that was last, not last year [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2396] Two years ago.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2397] not since we'd been married, but, erm, and erm, it was in the March wasn't it, just before we announced our engagement. [2398] And erm, we hardly got to see as much of each other, because we were like, in this group of ten people, and then, and so like one time we skied off piste, and we just had this massive snowball fight off piste, it was like really funny. [2399] All these [...] mouth full of snow, made you feel like, I was wearing, I was wearing er, cos it's really hot, I was just wearing er er, thermal fleece, and it was like the thermal fleece was actually covered with [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2400] [...] with it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2401] Yeah. [2402] Nightmare. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2403] The time I went before that, I got erm, like a frostbitten thumb, because I was going up on the chair lift, and er, I dropped one of my gloves, and it was quite a cold day, so by the time I'd got to the top, and skied all the way back down, and then down the road going back to try and find me gloves, because I had borrowed them from a friend,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2404] Your hand had withered on you.
None (KPVPS000)	[2405] and then, and then I got to the snow, chest deep,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2406] Black [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2407] so I had to lie down properly and crawl over the top of it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2408] Ah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2409] I, I got to where, I got to where the glove was, and took me scarf off my hand and my thumb was just yellow at the top.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2410] Oh really?
None (KPVPS000)	[2411] It goes like a, sort of like a wax crayon, where it freezes, and I put the glove back on, and you get, you get the hot aches, I mean, when the feeling starts to come back. [2412] It's really really painful.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2413] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2414] Er, a couple of days later, it just split down like a banana, and
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2415] Er.
None (KPVPS000)	[2416] sort of pin, sort of half my thumb came away.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2417] Oh my God.
None (KPVPS000)	[2418] Yeah, it was just, yeah, it was really disgusting.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2419] What did it look like, later on, [...] like heal the skin underneath it?
None (KPVPS000)	[2420] Yes, it's like a brand new thumb underneath. [2421] Four or five layers of sk skin,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2422] Er
None (KPVPS000)	[2423] sort of came off.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2424] How weird. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2425] Look, no one going to have any cheese and biscuits?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2426] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2427] Do you want some more coffee?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2428] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2429] Is there much coffee in there, then? [2430] I can make some more.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2431] No, no, that'll be alright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2432] No. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2433] No, there is enough.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2434] Oh, don't, don't, don't go make any more.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2435] No, there's enough in here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2436] Oh, right.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[2437] Do you want any more wine?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2438] No thank you.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2439] No one gonna have any cheese and biscuits?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2440] No thank you, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2441] No, I can't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2442] A drop more of wine.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2443] [...] there is some more.
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2444] Oh, yes please.
None (KPVPS000)	[2445] [...] half glass
Rebecca (PS586)	[2446] Oh, it wasn't as much as I thought. [2447] Do you want some milk with that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2448] No, it's fine as it is, thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2449] Erm, I'm not worried but [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2450] Do you want any milk, hot milk any of you,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2451] Whatever.
None (KPVPS000)	[2452] Well, if, if I make some more coffee.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2453] So you'll have to go back out and do that grinding [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2454] Oh, that's a, that's a drag. [2455] If I make some more coffee, who's gonna have some?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2456] Yes, I might have one, then,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2457] Yeah, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2458] Ben, are you gonna have some more?
Inga (PS6RY)	[2459] No, thanks. [2460] Positive.
None (KPVPS000)	[2461] Nick.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2462] Yeah, I'll have one.
None (KPVPS000)	[2463] Hold on, it's worth making some more, I think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2464] [whispering] [...] I'll have black []
Rebecca (PS586)	[2465] Well, would it, would it ready by ... [...] are you sure you don't want cheese and biscuits?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2466] Aren't you having something?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2467] No, I'm not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2468] I'll have some in a minute.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2469] Oh, are you? [2470] Cos I was gonna
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2471] I'll have some in a minute, too,
Rebecca (PS586)	[2472] Oh would you, oh, good, I'll leave it out, then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2473] I love cheese and biscuits.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2474] It's sort of, if it's gonna sit there, and get nice and warm and ...
None (KPVPS000)	[2475] Soggy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2476] That's the way it should be, though, you should leave [...] cheese out.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2477] Oh, really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2478] Yeah, you should never [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2479] Put it away to warm up, you know.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2480] Oh, fine, okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2481] It's quite revolting, now, isn't it, and when they, like everything in the fridge
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2482] that's really cold, when it comes out [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2483] [...] I love the real sweaty [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2484] Running everywhere.
None (KPVPS000)	[2485] Like to see the mould growing on it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2486] Do you like it straight out the fridge, well, I left it in the fridge, first of all, [...] said oh get the, get the cheeses out, and I said, no I want to leave them in the fridge, I want those nice and cool.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2487] I'm like that, I'm like that with everything. [2488] I like it really hot or really cold
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2489] I like it fresh.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2490] Like milk,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2491] Yeah. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2492] I love a nice tall glass of milk. [2493] Why does it have to be tall, that's what I want to know? [2494] It has to be tall to really taste nice. [2495] In a tall glass.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2496] [...] and say.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2497] No, exactly.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2498] But, erm, unless it's freezing cold, I don't like it, but I just absolutely adore a cold, a cold long glass of milk. [2499] But if it's the slightest bit lukewarm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2500] Er,
Rebecca (PS586)	[2501] it just makes me wanna throw up. [2502] It's true [...] it's the same thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2503] I know, but it's, mm, it doesn't taste nice, does it?
None (KPVPS000)	[2504] Okay, everyone, just stay where you are.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2505] Do what?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2506] [laugh] My dad came round when we went to the theatre the other day, he hadn't seen it, since we put that picture up. [2507] Apparently, [...] I don't know if anybody would know, you know, don't you. [2508] My grandfather was, is an artist and was head of Hull Art College.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2509] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2510] And erm, yeah, and apparently his idol, as it were, is the guy who painted that, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2511] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2512] And I erm, just picked that up in a garage some place, thought it was such a cool, I just really liked the picture.
None (KPVPS000)	[2513] Easily pleased, if you ask me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2514] Shut up.
None (KPVPS000)	[2515] Oh, no, it's just a joke.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2516] I just thought it was a really nice picture, so I bought it, and erm, my dad came in and said, that's spooky,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2517] I know, my dad's going, oh, can't really believe it, you've got Edmund , I said. [2518] I hadn't even looked at who it was by. [2519] Showing my ignorance, and then apparently my grandfather's so into him, that he went round trying to find this book of his, his work,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2520] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2521] and then he went to a specialist book place, that can't find rare editions or whatever.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2522] Is it rare editions, or was it just a an edition of that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2523] Either a rare or first edition, something like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2524] And how much was it gonna be?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2525] Four hundred pounds.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2526] Four hundred pounds for this one book.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2527] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2528] Did my granddad get it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2529] I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2530] Is your granddad still alive?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2531] Yes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2532] Do you think I'm [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2533] He must be alive [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2534] At your wedding.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2535] No, that's my other granddad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2536] The one who wanted to be in the film, when you were going cooee [laugh] [...] granddad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2537] Yeah, that granddad lives erm, during the war, his father owns a erm, confectioner's business.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2538] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2539] So during the war, he didn't, he didn't go to war, he stayed at home erm, you know, he worked at, in like food and, and so they were [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2540] Don't you wish you'd got an electric one now?
None (KPVPS000)	[2541] It's a bit of a grind. [2542] Ha, ha, ha. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2543] Oh dear.
None (KPVPS000)	[2544] It might look nice on the shelf, but it's a real
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2545] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2546] pain in the arse.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2547] Actually, I have to say, we got it first, it's one of those, I think it's corny, you know when you do something first, and everybody else seems to suddenly do it, and they come round, and say, that's really a good idea, and like, everybody comments on our coffee grinder and since we come to like, the church, like, practically everybody in the church has now got a coffee grinder. [2548] Like, in our church in our church back home isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2549] Is that a wedding Christmas card?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2550] Well, we bought it just after we got married, see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2551] Isn't it pretty?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2552] Yeah, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2553] Looks, really nice.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2554] It's an antique, erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2555] Really?
None (KPVPS000)	[2556] It's a Peugeot.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2557] Made by Peugeot.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2558] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2559] [...] from Paris.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2560] From Paris.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2561] It is you know.
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2562] Really
Rebecca (PS586)	[2563] Yeah, but it will last, won't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2564] I mean, yeah, I mean, knew they're that price.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2565] Yeah. [2566] Yeah. [2567] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2568] I've always wanted one, you know, the, the, the new names of the coffee grinder.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2569] They make the new trendy ones.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2570] Do they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2571] Yeah, but they [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2572] Do you think ours isn't trendy? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2573] Yours is very trendy, but you can fit the side of your kitchen units.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2574] Ah, like a like a mincer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2575] Yeah, but it's a really, really weird thing, it's ever so heavy it looks as if it will be very hard to grind the coffee. [2576] But it looks really good, even if it doesn't [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2577] I think, I think er some friends of ours have got one like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2578] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2579] What [...] Welsh ones.
None (KPVPS000)	[2580] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2581] Yeah. [2582] Very sexy. [2583] Yeah. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2584] Talking at cross purposes now.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2585] Poor Julienne came round the other day, and I [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2586] Got a complaint about these sexy saucepans, [...] reflected aren't they. [2587] Just like, yeah, rightio. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2588] I must say I had a big shock when I married Nick. [2589] No, it's Greg and you that got me on to saying that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]

7 (Tape 130402)

None (KPVPS000)	[2590] Greg would be very impressed with the engineering on that.
Anne (PS6RW)	[2591] And charz are carzy to them.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2592] Sexy to them.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2593] Have you met Greg? [2594] You haven't met Greg yet, have you?
Inga (PS6RY)	[2595] No I haven't.
Anne (PS6RW)	[2596] Ben had to go to a brea a housebreak on the site.
None (KPVPS000)	[2597] [...] engineering on the site
Inga (PS6RY)	[2598] They were [...] yes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2599] Did the erm, [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[2600] I had to stay there.
None (KPVPS000)	[2601] Claim, claim settlement, two point eight pounds [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2602] [...] leave.
Anne (PS6RW)	[2603] [...] shop, and there's two blokes. [2604] It was a Sunday, I was so worried, I didn't know anything about [...] , and I just have to sit there and we had to make conversation. [2605] Left us hours [...] about four times.
None (KPVPS000)	[2606] Oversized tubing,
Inga (PS6RY)	[2607] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2608] And it's about two millimetres thick, and erm, [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2609] Yes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2610] Oh no.
None (KPVPS000)	[2611] Flattened but wide, and round, flattened all where the joints [...] just like the Eiffel Tower [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[2612] [...] and they're sort of chatting saying, well, you know, I'm an American [...] they were trying to chat us [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2613] Movies, yeah. [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2614] My, my brother is erm, is erm, manager of a [...] do a magazine called Cycle which is a new one that just's come out. [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[2615] I just sat there like a real prat, and I thought [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2616] Ben [...] Claire to you.
Anne (PS6RW)	[2617] I know, I know you came by [...] . [2618] Did you have a nice cycle?
Inga (PS6RY)	[2619] Yeah, erm, called the Cycle Book, I've got a copy [...] erm, and so I got one from him, and there's quite a few adverts in there [...] bikes.
None (KPVPS000)	[2620] Have they
Inga (PS6RY)	[2621] and things like that [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[2622] I didn't have time to leave the shop. [2623] So I thought, well Ben [...] done a runner, so I'm gonna just sit here. [2624] [...] thinking, where is he, and then he came back [...] I was so angry [...] made me sick, because [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2625] [laugh] [...] yeah, I'm saving for it, right.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2626] [...] I, I really would like a bike, [...] so badly. [2627] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2628] Tell me, what sort of bike?
Anne (PS6RW)	[2629] I was so angry. [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2630] Well, I'd like, I'd like one of those robust [...] bikes, [...] things like that, something like [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2631] Yeah [...] taking off after we've finished?
Anne (PS6RW)	[2632] Yeah, I have.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2633] [...] car or anything.
Anne (PS6RW)	[2634] Shut up, shh
None (KPVPS000)	[2635] What do you want, mountain or [...] ?
Inga (PS6RY)	[2636] [...] mountain bike, yeah
Anne (PS6RW)	[2637] [...] Charlotte, but it doesn't matter. [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2638] What hybrid or ... more ...
Inga (PS6RY)	[2639] I don't know anything about it,wh what is a hybrid, exactly?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2640] Sorry?
None (KPVPS000)	[2641] That's alright, you're gonna [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2642] It's a rose, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2643] Ahead [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2644] I entered a competition for one, the other day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2645] Did you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2646] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2647] Do you think you're gonna run when you enter?
Inga (PS6RY)	[2648] Well, it's in this really little obscure [...] shop
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2649] I do as well.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2650] and they do a free draw every month for a er mountain bike.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2651] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2652] Where is this?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2653] I'm sure that's why I never win anything, I've got such an intent to win when I ever I enter a competition, like I dunno. [2654] I think if I entered in, thinking like if it was in a good cause,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2655] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2656] I'll donate some money there, you know, I might even win one percent of the prize at the same time, you know, I might have a chance of winning, but I always think, oh yes, only fifty P, you know, I'll win certainly.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2657] And then you wait and look for the post every single day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2658] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2659] [...] date in your diary, you know, the draw's happening on the thirtieth of November, and you know, er
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2660] In fact, we just,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2661] We
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2662] I just think, you know the hundred thousand pounds.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2663] Yeah, it's really bad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2664] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2665] They have on these great big adverts, and you never win [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2666] It's really amazing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2667] I've got money, money in premium bonds and I've never won anything.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2668] I erm, I admit it, because it just really shows them up. [2669] You know that erm, have you ever seen, is it, I think it's I T V morning television when you've got Ross King,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2670] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2671] morning television.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2672] Good morning T V.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2673] I was watching this [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2674] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2675] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2676] [laughing] Well, I mean, only once or twice [] and then,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2677] Ross King was like
Rebecca (PS586)	[2678] I don't know, I don't watch it every morning.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2679] Every day, isn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2680] I don't even know what channel is was on, Charlotte
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2681] I bet you jot things down before I meet you.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2682] No, listen, listen [laugh] they, they have been [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2683] She records it. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2684] competition, to raise a trip to, to, to I can't remember where it was,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2685] Don't have to get up now. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2686] to somewhere. [2687] I thought, well I, I might as well phone in for it. [2688] So I. [2689] [snore] If you don't want to listen
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2690] I'm listening.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2691] You were asked to phone in, so, erm, so our phone was out of order, so [laughing] I had a phone card [] and it had four units on it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2692] Oh, Nicole.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2693] And it swallowed up my four whole units, because I even got to [laughing] say what the answer was [] and I thought that was forty P, and I thought, I'm never ever going to phone into one of those things again.
None (KPVPS000)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2694] I've done it every week. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2695] I'm not sure, but I just thought, I'm just paying for someone else to go on that holiday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2696] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2697] That's the idea, probably.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2698] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2699] Exactly. [2700] That's the only reason that they can afford to do it, and they make a packet on top of it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2701] It's like jobs, you know, that have O eight nine eight
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2702] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2703] whatever numbers, you're, you're waiting
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2704] That's terrible.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2705] and they're saying well [...] and they claim there isn't a job at all.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2706] But the only thing what, I, I mean, I got through, it says hi you've got through to Ross King's er, blah, we're going to repeat those competition questions for you, and they repeat it all to you, and they, is your answer A bla ... B ... C and then, it's please speak after the tone, beep and then you say your thing and then, now would you like to leave your name and number ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2707] You didn't have time.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2708] and then it ran out, sort of like swallowed forty P, before I even got to say what my name and number was.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2709] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2710] I thought great.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2711] But then I, I still, erm, this question then, were you, were you with me? [2712] I can't remember I think it was Louise who br I went up to talk to her, and the question was, [laughing] which of follow which of the following is not a swimming stroke and you have butterfly, breast stroke, bird crawl [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2713] [laughing] Wh []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2714] [laugh] and I thought, [...] if you can't answer that question,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2715] you really are fair sad y yo you know you shouldn't be in connection with the world. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2716] [...] I'll repeat that,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2717] The attached name thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2718] and they take it so seriously. [2719] Which of the following
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2720] are not a swimming stroke. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2721] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2722] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2723] Well, the thing is, it's so simple,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2724] Terrible.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2725] because they want everybody to phone in.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2726] Do you think that's why?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2727] Forty five pence a minute.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2728] Oh, of course.
None (KPVPS000)	[2729] From each individual caller.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2730] That's how they pay for their prizes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2731] A, explain the erm,
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2732] First caller of the day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2733] Get you to answer, that's the least thing [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2734] Which Tibetan country, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Swindon ... erm, [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2735] Tibet.
None (KPVPS000)	[2736] Baghdad or Solihull, or something like this, you know, slightly more difficult. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2737] This, see I just thought it was just cos, you know, and he kept stressing it, which of the following is [shouting] not [] a swimming stroke, breast stroke, butterfly or [shouting] bird crawl [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2738] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2739] You know, you just think, why [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2740] [...] the IQ of the people who watch this programme. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2741] [laughing] You start worrying about yourself [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2742] Yeah, why mum watches it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2743] Also another thing is, when you phone up, it's like ... er you've, it's like on a time thing, so obvious well, not a time thing, but it detects whether you've said anything and how long the pauses are,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2744] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2745] so erm, and it said to me, erm, say after the beep, and I didn't understand quite where the beep was, right. [2746] [laugh] I know [...] actually. [2747] They say speak after the beep, beep. [2748] Like you know, you're sort of waiting for it, and then there's this [...] now would you like, and I thought, I haven't given my answer yet, and then erm, and just leave my name, cos I think [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2749] Oh [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2750] it's erm, please leave your name and number, and the [shouting] postal area code [] and I couldn't figure out what they meant, your post code, or what, anyway, I sort, I, I left this long pause, shut your face [laugh] I left this really long pause, and it just like clicked off before I could leave my phone number, so they've got my, my answer and my names, but they haven't got my phone number, so I thought well, that's not much good, they can't phone you, can they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2751] Oh, no.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2752] So you think, and so people must like do this, and then phone back, I'm sure it's not just me, because I can't be that thick.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2753] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2754] And so they get them to phone back, do you know what I mean? [2755] Like they make a mistake, or I'd better phone back, and then it cost them all that much money again, [...] more money.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2756] Bloody joke, innit?
None (KPVPS000)	[2757] You might have just seen
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2758] through a really clever ploy there, Nick.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2759] It's a bit like your story, ha, your novel you're gonna write.
None (KPVPS000)	[2760] I'm gonna write a novel.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2761] Are you?
None (KPVPS000)	[2762] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2763] What about?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2764] So sad, oh please, oh I shouldn't have said that. [2765] It's really horrible, he was telling me about it last night, and I was really scared [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[2766] Not this dream you were telling us about, was it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2767] Oh, is this this psycho gardener?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2768] Oh, he hasn't told you about it, [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2769] Yeah. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2770] I, I had this dream the other night, and it was so real, I thought I'd been to the cinema. [2771] It's about this composer, who's a complete maniac, psychopathic serial killer, the works, and erm, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2772] okay, and his music, is sort of really ... affected by this, and there's something really about this film, really dramatic classical music, and you know this composer and everything
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2773] Jagged Edge, the sequel.
None (KPVPS000)	[2774] Yeah, sorry, now erm all, all the way through this the, the, you know, is the usual business, you got this policeman, and you got the killer and you're trying to track, he's trying to track him down, all sorts of weird people keep getting killed and he's trying to track him down. [2775] Erm, eventually he tracks him down and kills him, I could probably stretch that all out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2776] Who kills who, sorry?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2777] The policeman kills the
None (KPVPS000)	[2778] The policeman kills the ser the, this composer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2779] Right. [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2780] [...] he's a guy, a, a well famous composer
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2781] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2782] and eventually he's the killer and he gets killed, right. [2783] And, and the policeman, the, the film is just winding down, and everyone's going ah, you know, sigh of relief, and it's the end of the movie, erm, well in the novel, and the policeman is back in his house ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2784] Whichever.
None (KPVPS000)	[2785] and he's just sort of pottering around,wind you know, things winding down, and suddenly the gardener rushes in from the garden, starts trying to kill him, and he shoots, and he [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2786] [...] Jagged Edge. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2787] so the, so the policeman shoots the gardener and the gardener sort of, phworgh, falls onto the floor, dies. [2788] His, his personal stereo headphones get knocked off as he falls to the floor, and dinkly dinkly dinkly dinkly, [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2789] The music.
None (KPVPS000)	[2790] you could hear the music of this psychopathic composer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2791] Ooh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2792] Eerie.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2793] Eerie.
None (KPVPS000)	[2794] I dreamt the whole thing, and it was so real.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2795] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2796] Were you in it at all?
None (KPVPS000)	[2797] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2798] Really?
None (KPVPS000)	[2799] Nothing. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2800] He was, he was the gardener.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2801] I've decided, it not [...] okay, it's the [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2802] I was watching it at the movies, I was watching the whole thing at the cinema.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2803] What had you been doing that day?
None (KPVPS000)	[2804] What?
Inga (PS6RY)	[2805] What had you been going that day?
None (KPVPS000)	[2806] I'd been talking to someone about the effects of music, cos there's a couple of court cases going on.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2807] You should make it into a film, and I can star, I can be the girl.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2808] I was gonna say, this is, Phil's, Phil's going to direct this film, right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2809] And we're [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2810] I could be the [...] I could be the er, F B I agent,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2811] Yeah.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2812] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2813] I'll be the psychopath, okay. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2814] Don't you think it's got some potential, though?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2815] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[2816] I mean, if you could imagine the visual of all the sound, the big cinema, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2817] If you've got a good imagination, if you've got a huge, imagination.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2818] [...] laser guns.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2819] It's got a lot [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2820] It would have to be really [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2821] Entered in the right [...] millions.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2822] Plenty of blood. [2823] Plenty of blood.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2824] Yeah, loads of, loads of erm, [...] psychological [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2825] Lots of gore.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2826] [...] make it look really.
None (KPVPS000)	[2827] But I was trying to work out how, how, how the composer should kill them, whether he [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2828] Went into battle [...] through the heart er
None (KPVPS000)	[2829] did them with the piano [...] or, or whatever. [2830] Or did he deliberately [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2831] What do you gonna call it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2832] Baton.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2833] Yeah.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2834] Baton Rouge. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2835] Oh, dear.
None (KPVPS000)	[2836] Anyway,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2837] That's stupid [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2838] Just about do that I think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2839] Big cymbals [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2840] [...] Chippendales and everything.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2841] Yes.
None (KPVPS000)	[2842] Okay, so it's only an idea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2843] Hit to death by the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2844] We loved it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2845] We loved it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2846] We can laugh about it now. [2847] He's going on about it, even like, he told me that when he dreamt it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2848] It's really bloodthirsty, isn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2849] I mean, I know, and I'm really worried.
None (KPVPS000)	[2850] I, I had another weird dream,
Rebecca (PS586)	[2851] It's funny, I have been having really weird dreams over the last three nights, and I never dream. [2852] I haven't dreamed for years, and I was saying that to the girls, I had like, three nights of a really scary dream.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2853] Vivid dreams.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2854] Really vivid, really scary.
None (KPVPS000)	[2855] I had this other dream once, of me, and there's this girl I used to like, right, and, and the weird thing was that in, in our group of churches, you used to sort of like, got one guy who's, more senior, and erm, he had this daughter and my mum sort of fancied me marrying this famous preacher's daughter, you see, and I took her out a few times, erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2856] How old were you then, er, knows?
None (KPVPS000)	[2857] Sort of seventeenish, that sort of age ... erm, and I had this really weird dream, that we were canoe canoeing up this river and erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2858] You and the girl?
None (KPVPS000)	[2859] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2860] Right.
None (KPVPS000)	[2861] This erm, wide Am Amazon river, and suddenly all these natives start appearing along the sides, and we could see them
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2862] [...] all these trees with nipples, [laugh] and these guys started paddling after us, sort of chop our nipples off. [laugh] [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[2863] That book sounds far better than the last one. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2864] [laughing] What were your dreams, Claire [] ?
Anne (PS6RW)	[2865] [...] my dreams,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2866] Cos they're horrible?
Anne (PS6RW)	[2867] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2868] My erm, when I was little, I used to have this reoccuring dream, and it was really, really scary, and I just, I used to get really scared, I didn't want to go to sleep, in case I had this reoccuring dream, and what it was, was erm, I don't know, I, I think I didn't like swimming when I was little, so that might, what sparked it off, and I couldn't swim for ages
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[whispering] [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2869] [whispering] I don't know, I think I will, actually [] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[2870] until I was quite old, and then, this dream was, going to the swimming baths,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2871] [...] gets knocked over.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2872] and it being full of, of animals, most of them nasty animals, that would frighten you, like snakes and squirrels, I don't know why squirrels, and, and like I had a picture in my mind, I can't remember whether it was the swimming baths I'd been to, or whatever, like you know how they, quite often they have little ramps, [...] or maybe they don't, but the ones I'd been to had ramps, stairs going up to them or whatever,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2873] Mhm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2874] and you go up this thing that winds in and out and like there'd be cockerels sitting on the, on the little fences you have to go round, trying to peck you to death, er [...] I was like only tiny, you know, it was just like
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2875] It's very good when you're little then you [...] you probably weren't very buoyant, so.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2876] really scared, and I just, yeah. [2877] But I just used to have this dream, of all these animals, and I had to go in with all these animals, it was actually full, crammed full of animals, that were all out to eat me, and, kill me,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2878] Oh.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2879] and have me for lunch.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2880] I used to, erm, you know like fairy tales [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2881] [laugh] Fairy tales can be very horrible and violent, aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2882] Yeah, they are.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2883] They used to have these, I remember watching, erm, The Little Pigs. [2884] [laugh] And erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2885] How do you do [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2886] The cartoon, and I, I was only [...] I can remember, my dream was really vivid, I was standing up in my cot, and all of a sudden my bedroom windows flew open, curtains blew and in the window this bright light and then this wolf coming to get me, and it was the most scary dream I've ever had. [2887] It was horrible, I was in my cot and I couldn't escape. [2888] Ooh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2889] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2890] After I got [...] there was this lorry chasing me, and I was always running
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2891] Lorry?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2892] Lorry ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2893] And it always woke me up as the lorry hit me, and it really hurt, and I woke up
None (KPVPS000)	[2894] I've never had, I've never had dreams that have actually disturbed me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2895] I have.
None (KPVPS000)	[2896] I've had some weird dreams, I used to wake up and think ... wow that was a dream.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2897] I've woken up [...] . [2898] I've woken up and found myself shouting and woke my, wake ... woke myself up [...] I wake myself up.
None (KPVPS000)	[2899] I did that once.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2900] You're waking yourself up, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2901] Violent kick.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2902] [...] you really are running, you know how dogs' legs do this, cos they're running after [...] Ben's [...] and he kicked me last night. [2903] I was just dropping off to sleep and you know how you're just thinking, yeah, mm what are we gonna do this weekend, and all of a sudden, Ben's legs went and kicked me really hard, [laugh] and I thought oh my God something awful's happened, and you, you really do, you move a lot. [2904] [cough] You think as well, which is very irritating, [cough] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2905] [...] ask some of you this, but [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2906] Who would like some more coffee?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2907] Yes please.
None (KPVPS000)	[2908] Anyone like some more coffee?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2909] Me, me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2910] [...] first.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2911] No, it's really funny, sit down.
None (KPVPS000)	[2912] Have you got a cup?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2913] Sit down a minute. [2914] Erm, what was I gonna say, oh Laura, Laura, and you say [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2915] No, no, nothing like that.
None (KPVPS000)	[2916] So.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2917] My grandmother has like [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[2918] How do you like your coffee?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2919] Strong, please.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2920] My grandmother [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2921] Milk and sugar. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2922] Oh, this is good, I won't talk [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2923] My g erm, pressure behind the eye,yo fluid builds up as pressure at the back of the eyes,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2924] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2925] and you eventually go blind from it, if you don't erm, don't catch it early enough. [2926] [cough] So anyway my grandmother has it and it's hereditary you see, so my dad's, my dad keeps saying to me, you know, make sure you get your eyes checked, make sure you get your eyes checked.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2927] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2928] Now, I and I went to other day, I was having quite bad headaches from the back of my eyes, feeling like, you know, I had pressure there, and so, I think it was just headaches but I wanted to go and check it out, and I went to the, cos my dad said oh if you go to the opticians erm, they give you free checks as you've got glaucoma in the family, and erm, or glaucoma, or whatever you call it. [2929] So I went in, and they said, oh yes, but they're free on the N H S, if you're over forty, so I thought great, you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2930] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2931] I've got another twenty years to go blind.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2932] Yeah. [cough]
None (KPVPS000)	[2933] So what [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2934] Yeah, exactly. [2935] Well, they said, I said well, so I've got to wait twenty years? [2936] They said well, [cough] you're not likely to have, to have it. [2937] I said well, yeah. [2938] Well, I didn't say this, but I thought, well I'm not likely to have it before I'm forty, but then, what if I do?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2939] [...] anything, are you?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2940] Exactly. [2941] Anyway, so I, I was getting a bit worried about it, and, I can, cos I was having these headaches, and I started talking to Phil and I, I hadn't really said much to him about it. [2942] It was late at night and I decided, I was just sort of talking I'd say, I can't get rid of this headache, and I don't know what I'm gonna do, I don't whether I should just not worry about it cos I'm not that old, [...] and I was really pouring my heart out to him, and he turns round and he says, yeah, you need a new clutch [laugh] you really need a new clutch. [2943] [laugh] [...] I said, Phil, [...] answers, [...] and I said Phil and I started to laugh, cos I just thought, I wasn't going to get upset about it, so I just started to giggle. [2944] And erm, it was quite nice actually, cos I was getting really worried,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2945] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2946] and, and, so I was just giggling away, [...] talk a load of rubbish, and [...] no no, [laugh] you need a new clutch, [...] forget it, forget it. [2947] [laughing] I just turned over and went back to sleep [] . [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[2948] [...] would you like some more coffee?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2949] And in the morning, he had absolutely no recollection of it at all.
Inga (PS6RY)	[2950] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2951] Needs a new clutch.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2952] No, it's terrible. [2953] I hate, it's so irritating because when I go to, to bed, I'm never tired. [2954] So I always sit up in bed for ages really wide awake, and I'm reading and doing all sorts of thinking like things, and I'd be talking to Ben, and he would say yeah, yeah, and he's really vague as well, and I, I get really angry and then I think you can tell because then you tend to lean across and say, are you alright, are you alright, and I just find it makes it worse.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2955] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2956] Do you see what I mean?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2957] I might, for Phil, for Phil to wind down, he'll come in, say we've been out for a meal or whatever, he'll come in and he'll sit down in front of the television. [2958] Now that to me is not [cough]
None (KPVPS000)	[2959] Only for five minutes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2960] I know, I just don't how you can do it. [2961] Erm, whereas I
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2962] Are you alright?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2963] Yeah, sorry.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2964] erm, I like to talk, so he's wound down, you know, really sleepy, comes to bed, and I'm like, that's when I wind down by chatting away and saying, you know, little snippets of things that have happened to you during the day, and he's just like, oh, shut up, go to sleep, you know. [2965] And erm, you know I want to talk and wind down so I now exactly what you mean.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2966] I, I used to get in the night, didn't I?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2967] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2968] I couldn't sleep.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2969] My mum's like that, she gets up at
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2970] Hours
Rebecca (PS586)	[2971] two in the morning
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2972] I used to get up about three, [...] the fire, and things like this, and I used to get really bored. [2973] Cos [...] you know, obviously nobody wants to talk to you at three o'clock in the morning, fast asleep aren't they, not much fun is it? [2974] I used to get up and read, and oh it's so true.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2975] My mum wakes up and I wake up at two, because she's pottering around in the kitchen, [...] , banging about a bit more than usual. [2976] [...] mother are you alright? [2977] And she'd say oh, yes [cough] she gets up most nights now, in the middle of the night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2978] Yeah, I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2979] How many hours do you need?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2980] Erm, I go through stages, normally I need eight hours' sleep, always eight hours' sleep, but I don't really sleep in.
None (KPVPS000)	[2981] She doesn't feel sort of
Rebecca (PS586)	[2982] She goes to bed quite early cos she gets very tired with work. [2983] So she goes to bed early [...] a couple of hours,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2984] Not really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[2985] All she'll do, is she'll sleep through to, she'll sleep through to like six, and then get up and that's it for the day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[2986] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2987] Cos I just wake up in the night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2988] I mean, if I can have twelve hours, then I'm happy.
None (KPVPS000)	[2989] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2990] But if I don't have nine I'm [...] not worth talking to, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2991] We'll have to get a tablecloth.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2992] Nine?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2993] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2994] Really? [2995] You have to have a lot of sleep.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2996] I really need sleep.
Rebecca (PS586)	[2997] Really
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[2998] [...] awful. [2999] The thing is, that I can go, for then, weeks and weeks with like six or seven hours,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3000] Yes, that would be great.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3001] and then the first day I stop, I've usually got flu, I'm exhausted, I can't get out of bed, I feel rotten, but if I keep going for like, three weeks to a month, just on six hours, that's fine, but the first day I stop I'm like, in bed for a week ill usually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3002] You stop ... what?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3003] Like six hours, seven hours sleep a night. [3004] I was saying, I need sort of eight, nine, and I could easily sleep for twelve hours.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3005] Oh, so do I.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3006] [...] I could go to bed early and it's sort ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3007] So do I.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3008] I'm terrible, if I've gone to bed really late, quite, you know, I just can't catch up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3009] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3010] I'm awful, I mean, that's why I got up, you know when you phoned me this morning, and said, I am sorry, have I got you out of bed, and I was like really grateful, because I can't stand sleeping in. [3011] I always used to sleep in, until we got married. [3012] Then he wakes me up when he goes out of the door in the mornings.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3013] You were, you used to sleep in really late.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3014] Oh, yeah, I know, when I used to stay, cos Helen and I were as bad as each other, weren't we, though we didn't encourage each other very much to get up early.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3015] Helen was terrible.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3016] Helen was worse than me, I [...] got up for Neighbours, I mean, she was really dead.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3017] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3018] [...] if she could make it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3019] Yes, she does, she gets up in the middle of the day, doesn't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3020] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3021] If she's got nothing to do, yeah. [3022] But she doesn't so much now, cos she's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3023] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3024] But erm, now I get up at eight o'clock every morning, and this morning I slept in till ten, but that's cos I was up till four, working on Thursday night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3025] God, what were you doing?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3026] Valponi Er, [...] or not [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3027] I can't really stay in bed past nine o'clock. [3028] Normally eight o'clock.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3029] In the morning?
None (KPVPS000)	[3030] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3031] I can't go to bed very early though, any more. [3032] I used to be able to go to bed early and go to sleep.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3033] Yes, cos I always used to go to bed a lot earlier than you guys.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3034] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3035] I say, the reason I think I had bad dreams, recently, in the last sort of three nights, is because they're the three nights I went swimming early, so I thought I better go to bed early. [3036] So I was in bed about eleven, instead of two in the morning.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3037] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3038] Which meant I probably was [cough] like awake to start with, because I, although I got up at seven, I still wasn't ready to go to bed at eleven, cos it was still too early, and usually I go to bed about two.
None (KPVPS000)	[3039] Body clock's sort of
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3040] Yeah, my body clock was like, still really really active. [3041] Cos usually I'm just like in bed, and that's it. [3042] [...] and when I have to get up, I have to get up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3043] [...] changed about midnight [...] whereas when I changed [...] go to bed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3044] Charlotte I'm much better at going to sleep with noise around me, though now, cos I can't tell when by body clocks, tends to shut your eyes, so I just blot it out now. [3045] I've managed to
None (KPVPS000)	[3046] Been quite noisy upstairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3047] Not quite noisy, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3048] Often they come in about half an hour after we've gone to bed, so you're still not quite ... asleep.
None (KPVPS000)	[3049] Yeah. [3050] Probably no difference [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3051] Well, that's it. [3052] Yeah. [3053] [...] tend to get used to.
None (KPVPS000)	[3054] Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3055] I used to be constantly telling them [...] to shut up [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3056] There you go.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3057] I was a real pain in the arse, wasn't I?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3058] No, not really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3059] The worse thing is, when I, I am desperate to get to sleep, cos then ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3060] You can't.
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3061] Because, because then you do, exactly, if they make any noise, I'd be like, will you shut up. [cough]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3062] And then that makes it even worse [cough] because you go round and round [cough] in circles, and you know and the more [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3063] The more angry you get [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3064] Exactly [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3065] and I used to get really angry with Alison ... shuffling around, but they do it even, I mean, they've got to get their sofabed out every night, that sort of thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3066] Oh, right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3067] And so, you can imagine the sort of noise they make,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3068] Lisa?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3069] people upstairs, cos they live in, they live in the space of our bedroom and bathroom.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3070] You're joking.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3071] No,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3072] My goodness.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3073] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3074] What, and the, and ...
None (KPVPS000)	[3075] Wh where the ceiling changes height.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3076] Yeah, where the ceiling goes up. [3077] There's from there back to the bathroom.
None (KPVPS000)	[3078] From there to the bathroom.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3079] That is all they've got?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3080] That's all they've got.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3081] Oh, my life.
None (KPVPS000)	[3082] That's just one room.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3083] I know.
None (KPVPS000)	[3084] I mean, I don't how they put up with each other.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3085] So, when we, you can imagine the noise that they [cough] [...] I mean, it's not their fault. [3086] It's not being any more noisy than we are here, but
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3087] No, above you it seems more noisy.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3088] Exactly, and when they come in it's really loud.
None (KPVPS000)	[3089] You know about it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3090] And they're traipsing around the room, getting the bed out, doing this that and the other.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3091] We're amazed that we can hear the people downstairs, cos we can hear them like, you know, if you hear somebody above you, walking here dong dong dong dong, above, you can hear it for some reason, below on the ground floor.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3092] Even more, and it really, and if you are on your own,
None (KPVPS000)	[3093] They must have a sprung floor, or something.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3094] it really sounds like someone's coming upstairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3095] Yeah. [3096] You think there's somebody on your level.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3097] Cos you didn't always hear it. [3098] It's only
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3099] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3100] certain occasions.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3101] [...] smelly substances as well.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3102] Yeah their illegal substances.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3103] Oh, no.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3104] Smoking illegal substances.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3105] They have, yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3106] I [...] coming up through the floorboards.
None (KPVPS000)	[3107] Perhaps they're walking on the ceiling, that's why you can hear it. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3108] [...] I wanna go now.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3109] You can really smell, can you [...] smelt it, Claire [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3110] I thought, I thought someone had been smoking in the toilets.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3111] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3112] Is it?
None (KPVPS000)	[3113] Smoking [...] in the toilets, yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3114] I didn't like to say anything, [...] but [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3115] Well, when I came in, I thought, somebody's [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3116] Yeah, probably in the toilet area, kitchen toilet.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3117] Oh good, I'm glad we got that sorted out.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3118] I think, I think that, I don't think they smoke all the time upstairs, but like, in the summer, er, basically this place just had its windows and doors open all day long, every day. [3119] And erm, one day we had friends round, and I went into the loo ... it stinks of smoke in here, it was really bizarre, and I, I went, and sort of just thought oh, and then I went in again, and I really did smell, and I thought, this is really odd, and so when I came out here I said, did anyone else smell smoke in the ba in the bathroom, and they said oh yeah, I could smell cigarette smoke, and then, it must have just been upstairs, and it wafted down, and in through ours, cos there was no one else really around. [3120] It's just like really bizarre.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3121] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3122] Yeah, it was really strong in the loo, just around the loo.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3123] It was, really really strong. [3124] Especially in the toilet.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3125] That's why, [...] and they were smoking out the window, er, up here. [3126] I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3127] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3128] But I mean, sometimes [cough] our house does smell,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3129] [...] friendly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3130] And that's why ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[3131] Oh, that's a shame. [cough]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3132] Sometimes,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3133] I've never smelt it before, though, since [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3134] Yeah, but I always remember in, in the lounge there was, always seemed to be weird smells.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3135] Oh, that's when they came to change the curtains.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3136] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3137] This place smells funny sometimes, and I really start getting paranoid, sort of, spraying air, air re [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3138] [...] actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3139] [...] it's that kind of smell, he's into.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3140] No it does. [3141] You know when we came in the other day, you came to see the sofa?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3142] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3143] Didn't it smell odd? [3144] You don't remember?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3145] I don't think so, no.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3146] Maybe it's just me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3147] You get paranoid, though, don't you?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3148] I don't like it being very stuffy. [3149] But because when you got the, you think you got the heating on and you're paying for the heating, and you open the windows. [3150] It's ridiculous. [3151] But I don't like it being stuffy, so this morning, I had all the windows open, cos it's nice and sunny and, erm, I had the windows open.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3152] But no, it's quiet, we can hear them down there can't we?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3153] Yeah, surprisingly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3154] Oh, can you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3155] But then again, we can only hear them at the moment, but there are six of them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3156] Yeah, that's true.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3157] There's four. [3158] There's two
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3159] [...] underneath the two couples. [cough]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3160] Two living in their, our lounge equivalent, and two living in my bedroom, equivalent, and then
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3161] I thought there was just of them downstairs [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3162] There are, but they've got his brother, his, Sam's boyfriend's brother, and his girlfriend and then their friends as well and they're both, they're all Kiwis, they're, they're all over from
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3163] It's really sweet.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3164] Yeah, but they're all over them. [3165] They're all gonna start to share, all gonna start sharing the place. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3166] They're all gonna start sharing the place together, cos it would be cheaper.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3167] Is that why they're moving out?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3168] Yeah, they're moving out at the end of this month. [3169] We've gotta have them round.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3170] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3171] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3172] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3173] We feel really bad, we don't [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3174] So they can leave us [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3175] We haven't met any of the other people that live ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3176] How many flats are there here?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3177] Thr four, including ou including ours. [3178] Well, we've met the guy who lives up above us, because he jumped out of bed, they've got french windows like we have, up above there, and he jumped out, and we were just sitting watching the telly or something, we heard these footsteps like going across the ceiling, it's as though we could see 'em, cos we could sort of hear it and feel it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3179] Real weird.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3180] And we nipped out there, and sort of looked up at him, and it was like, oh hi, we like go, is it safe up there?
None (KPVPS000)	[3181] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3182] We had us some con weird conversations with this guy standing on our roof.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3183] Yeah, we hear this television is [...] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[3184] Was it, yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3185] Do you have to pay for your T V licence plus all the other flats separately?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3186] Don't know, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3187] We don't need to pay, it's per household, isn't it? [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3188] We don't have to pay for ours.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3189] No. [3190] But I mean, per household, do you have to pay?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3191] Yeah, it's not [...] is it?
None (KPVPS000)	[3192] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3193] Individual.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3194] Bit of a shame.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3195] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3196] We think this is really disgusting, I don't know whether anybody noticed, but, on the back of the T V licence, we got our T V licence through, apparently [laugh] if you are registered blind, you get one pound and twenty nine P off your off your T V licence.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3197] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3198] Off, eighty three pound.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3199] Big, big deal
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3200] [...] it's disgusting, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3201] What an insult, honestly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3202] Couldn't believe it, could we? [3203] You'd think you'd get twenty five percent off, or something minimum.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3204] Get it free [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3205] One pound, twenty five.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3206] [...] credit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3207] What, do they ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3208] Do you get two pound fifty off if you're deaf and blind
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3209] and blind. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3210] Feel the screen. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3211] Braille, braille television.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3212] [...] horrible.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3213] Charlotte, you gonna have some ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3214] I can't believe it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3215] Sorry, I'm what, oh, didn't you know [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3216] Erm, I was gonna say something. [3217] Erm, yeah, I was gonna say, it's not even just like listening to the radio, is it, because they're catering for the, for the sighted, they're not, you know, if it was on radio, they'd say more, but I mean, it's television, but
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3218] Does it end up making sense
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3219] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3220] television is a more visual thing
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3221] You could listen to the news on the telly and it wouldn't make any difference, but if you're watching a programme,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3222] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3223] there's a lot of gesture
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3224] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3225] and, and looks and things
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3226] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3227] going on that you've missed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3228] [...] it would be a bit
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3229] That's a new thing [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3230] It's not as if they could read the Radio Times and see ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3231] It's alright, leave it in the [...] we need some time [...] .
None (KPVPS000)	[3232] Erm, I got interviewed on radio once, on, on television once with a friend and they asked, they asked us what we did, and this friend of mine said we were radio mime artists. [3233] [laugh] Gee, thanks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3234] Oh, no.
None (KPVPS000)	[3235] Like we're really going to be taken seriously now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3236] What was this for?
None (KPVPS000)	[3237] That was with .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3238] What was it for?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3239] Don't ask who it was with, they asked you what it was for.
None (KPVPS000)	[3240] It was erm, it was one of these sort of things, where you could go on and record your bit. [3241] If erm, if you got a thing that you're feeling uppity about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3242] Oh, no.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3243] [...] it makes on our W T coding thing.
None (KPVPS000)	[3244] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3245] The London Sport, or whatever it is.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3246] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3247] Yeah, but were you the sort of people that walk into hospitals and start praying for the sick to be healed. [3248] [laugh] Really weird, honestly, when you, you really had the faith it would happen and it quite often
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3249] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3250] Yeah. [3251] But it's the fact that the guy gave erm, my friend Billy, erm, died a few years ago, erm, but they, they were like best mates and they used to ju just encourage each other to like, jump on a train and come up to London, and start going in all the hospitals and praying for the sick and things like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3252] Oh, they're really weird pe er not weird.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3253] That's down there in that photo with his wife.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3254] Oh, right.
None (KPVPS000)	[3255] Actually, before he moved away, he, he gave up his designing job and he was working in [...] for a bit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3256] And erm, you don't know this, but when, when I used to go round there, he used to moan about all, no, he didn't moan, but
Rebecca (PS586)	[3257] Oh you did tell me.
None (KPVPS000)	[3258] What about all the girls.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3259] The girls.
None (KPVPS000)	[3260] The girls in campus, blinking heck Phil, they keep coming out in their underwear and saying, can you get me this size, or can you get me that size, you know, what am I supposed to do you know. [3261] Keep banging his head against the wall.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3262] He was a great guy. [3263] He phoned up, a guy erm, Head of er Air Canada. [3264] Top guy. [3265] He found out the guy's name, right, he
None (KPVPS000)	[3266] First name.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3267] Yeah, first name. [3268] He phones up and he says, oh hello, can I speak to Tom, and then, and erm, this woman, receptionist, whatever, obviously thought oh well, he knows the guy
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3269] Yes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3270] so she him put him straight through [cough] and then goes, Mr Smith, erm, my name's Mike , er, you don't know me, but I'm a graphic designer and er, my wife and I are trying to emigrate to Canada, and erm, I'd like you to send me some business and give me two free tickets for it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3271] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3272] And the guy did it as well, sent him some business. [3273] He did a couple of hours' work, and he got two free tickets to Canada. [3274] Cos otherwise they'd never have been able to afford to go, so
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3275] Wow.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3276] And it took him about twenty five minutes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3277] How old is he now?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3278] He's now twenty eight.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3279] Oh, who was the one that died, then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3280] Same age.
None (KPVPS000)	[3281] No, that's his friend.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3282] Really?
None (KPVPS000)	[3283] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3284] Blimey.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3285] He was on a pushbike and he was sucked into the slip, into the strip blah, into the slipstream of a car [...] lorry [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3286] Ooh
None (KPVPS000)	[3287] But he, he built up his own graphic design business, by designing something, say, Quality Street. [3288] He'd look at that and say, I think that's a really outdated adve erm, design.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3289] Mm.
None (KPVPS000)	[3290] So he'd design a new one, and he'd write to the guy at Quality Street and say look, I think, I'm a graphic designer, I think your box is a load of rubbish, I've designed this, will you pay me for it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3291] Really?
None (KPVPS000)	[3292] And he built up a whole business just by picking famous names and saying, look I think your design is really outdated and it's not doing your image any good. [3293] How about this?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3294] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3295] I couldn't believe that he just about had the audacity to phone this guy up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3296] Yeah, but that's how you get [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3297] Yeah, exactly.
None (KPVPS000)	[3298] [clears throat] I mean, that must be a thousand pounds' worth of air tickets.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3299] And they lost a fortune on their house, trying to sell it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3300] And erm,
None (KPVPS000)	[3301] It took him twenty five minutes on, on his computer,
Rebecca (PS586)	[3302] So he just
None (KPVPS000)	[3303] and that was it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3304] Fiddling around, yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3305] He just gets [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3306] Mm, if you don't know these things, if you don't try these things, you don't even [...] you always do it, don't you Claire, you're quite happy to barter with people in these situations [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3307] It's the way we got our house.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3308] I think, yeah, I think you need to be sometimes [...] like that [...] are awful.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3309] [...] they saw our house Friday, and they rang me up, and I said look, you know, I've got, I've got my exams today and I really don't want to come up unless you see something, if you do, I will come up because they reckon it's a joint effort, if we're gonna live together, we've all got to see it and make a contribution to looking at the house. [3310] So anyway, they rang me up Friday night, and said, oh, seen this house, it's lovely and really nice. [3311] What's the arrangement? [3312] We'll meet you there at twelve o'clock Saturday, right. [3313] Right, I'll meet you at McDonald's blah blah blah. [3314] So anyway, we got down here,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3315] [...] eaten [...] sandwiches by then.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3316] and erm,
Rebecca (PS586)	[3317] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3318] when we got down there, and erm, rang the bloke and he wasn't in and we kept ringing and he wasn't in. [3319] We just thought, they said, oh, we'll show you where it is, so we drove round there, and ... no, he wasn't there, and, so of course, we drove back there about four or five times during the day, and like we drove past there one time and there was a woman standing outside, she said like, oh what do you want, I was like, oh well, we've come to see the house [...] . [3320] So by the end of the day, I was like, look I've come all this way, which wasn't totally true, but I said, look I've come all this way, the bloke arranged that he would meet us at this time, and he's not here, and like, you know, I've come two and a half hours in the car, and I've gotta drive home again, and we were gonna have a look at the house. [3321] So by the end of the day, we'd met Sam, we knew her, we'd been in her house, we'd looked around her house. [3322] We found out that the neighbours on the left hand side, who were in fact an elderly couple, and his son was working erm, and he had his own business working at home.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3323] Then we had erm, the other people next door, the woman [...] erm, who was supposed to be a man-eater, we'd actually looked round her house and it was ident identical to ours and we looked, we looked all the way round her house and like, she said, oh yeah, all the building's the same but just in reverse and like, we met all the neighbours, plus the woman opposite [...] hadn't seen the flat,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3324] [...] I mean, what's wrong [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3325] Of course you can.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3326] so anyway [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3327] You can actually see [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3328] but then, on the other hand, I'm not the sort of person who, I mean, if it's something like that I can ask people, but I've got friends who are quite cheeky, who will ask things, I mean, like if somebody does something for me, I'm like, are you sure, are you sure, you don't mind, and like, I'm like over the top the other way. [3329] But if you're just generally talking to people and not actually asking anything of them,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3330] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3331] I'm very willing, but seeing as someone's doing something for me, I'm like you sure you don't mind? [3332] People get like actually annoyed and I just like what do you mean, I mean, you're doing it anyway, it's no problem.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3333] My mum's the sort of person who'll just argue with anything, if she thinks ... she'll argue with anybody, or anything if she thinks that she's being swindled, so like, [laugh] she even went to the extent of having, they, we had an extension built, right, and she, we had it, only fair's fair, this one particular suite, we had erm, and they, they had this absolutely massive bathroom built, [laughing] okay [] not specifically to have a nicer bathroom, but to have a very big room and erm, so they had two sinks, this sounds real extravagant, erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3334] Is there another glass out there?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3335] Where do you keep the glasses?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3336] Down, under ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3337] There's one there.
None (KPVPS000)	[3338] In the front of the bar cupboard.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3339] Yeah, it is yours. [3340] Erm, they've got two things, a bidet, a toilet, a corner bath and a corner shower on the other side, right?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3341] Is this in one room?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3342] In one [laughing] room [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3343] Goodness.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3344] I know.
None (KPVPS000)	[3345] It's, it's wider than this room, and it's easily from here to the end of the kitchen. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3346] Yeah, I see.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3347] No, it's not. [3348] What a load of rubbish. [3349] Philip, no, that's an exaggeration, come on, it's about as wide, it's as long as this room
None (KPVPS000)	[3350] It's about that big [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3351] it's about as long as this room, and probably a bit wider. [3352] But it just, because they had it, they had our, our double garage and that knocked down
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3353] A quite big [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3354] It is isn't it [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3355] The bath must be the size of a sofa.
None (KPVPS000)	[3356] Oh, yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3357] Well, it's not that long, but it's in [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3358] Yeah, well you know that sur with the surround and everything and if it's [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3359] Oh, come on, let's not over exaggerate.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3360] Is this because they built onto the [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3361] [...] to have a big bathroom.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3362] Do you have to embarrass your parents [...] bathroom.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3363] Well, what it was was, erm, cos my grandmother was very ill, [...] granddad's sort of
None (KPVPS000)	[3364] And they've got a, and they've got a sort of washstand in there.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3365] Can I. [3366] [sighing] Oh [] , for goodness sake.
Inga (PS6RY)	[3367] How big's their [...] Claire.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3368] They had a double garage knocked down, and built around the area,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3369] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3370] so they just had building built on top of it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3371] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3372] and my parents had,
None (KPVPS000)	[3373] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3374] because of that, they've got a very big bathroom and a very big bedroom,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3375] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3376] because they just, two rooms,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3377] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3378] put over the top of the,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3379] Yeah, yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3380] yeah, garage. [3381] So erm, cos downstairs, we had it all extended, so we could have a disabled bathroom and that sort of thing and,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3382] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3383] instead of going [...] use the garage.
None (KPVPS000)	[3384] I can't see the point of having a bathroom that doesn't work.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3385] What do you mean, a bathroom that doesn't work?
None (KPVPS000)	[3386] Oh, sorry, sorry.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3387] Are you trying really to piss me off?
None (KPVPS000)	[3388] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3389] Well, what do you mean?
None (KPVPS000)	[3390] It was a joke. [3391] A disabled bathroom. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3392] Erm, [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3393] Yes, it doesn't matter what I was saying, anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3394] Is this, is this [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3395] We know what you mean.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3396] Is it separate from the bedroom?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3397] It's not in the bedroom, it's
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3398] Is the, the bathroom's not in the bedroom, is it? [3399] This is separate.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3400] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3401] A separate room.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3402] What I was saying was, just that like, they had all these pieces of furniture in there, it was supposed to be a suite, but my mum, my mum got round and tell you every single piece that was a different colour or the wrong shape, or didn't fit on the pedestal properly, or this and that, and she had the whole lot changed at least three times.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3403] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3404] Yeah, and cos we had, we had the bathroom that was originally there, that they knocked through to build all this extension, was converted into a shower room, and she didn't think that the sink was right in that, and the disabled bathroom had at least two or three pieces that she thought bolshie in that as well,
Anne (PS6RW)	[3405] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3406] and after just that they kept sending the wrong pieces, I mean, like they, they sent another piece to replace it, and it was it was just as bad,
Anne (PS6RW)	[3407] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3408] my mum wasn't having it. [3409] Everyone else was just, [laugh] everyone else could have all the faulty stuff, they may not complain, but I'm going to,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3410] Yeah, [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3411] I have to stick to my guns, I'm paying a fortune for this stuff, why should I have faulty
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3412] Exactly.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3413] furniture. [3414] Even if the whole lot's being processed like, perhaps it shouldn't be, and then of course your standards aren't good enough. [3415] So sh mum's had a [...] my mother, but she's got what she wants.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3416] My friend had, they had er
Rebecca (PS586)	[3417] It's taken a year to get it all.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3418] What's that big kitchen fur is it Schr Schreiber?
None (KPVPS000)	[3419] Schreiber.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3420] Yeah, they had them come and fit their kitchen and they really did pay thousands of pounds for it, and erm, there was a chip erm, one of the units on the top and they, they just fitted it like it, and my, their dad called them back and said, look you know, I'm paying thousands of pounds for this.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3421] That's [...] [cough]
Anne (PS6RW)	[3422] [...] got quite a lot of money off for it. [3423] They, they said well we can redo it for you, they said we can give you a reduction in it, and he sort of bartered with them, and I think he got, you know, a good couple of hundred pound off just for this little chip in the unit.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3424] I should think so.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3425] I mean, if you're paying for these things, and you know, fair enough.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3426] My parents had fitted cupboards and wardrobes, you know, fitted like throughout their room, it's like, the normal two cupboards on one side, the cupboards above, plus the extra fitting and like wall fittings and, then the back bits by the bed, and then they had stable door and the big long dressing table and the end unit, and they actually bought different side panels for different wardrobe fittings. [3427] Like they got, I don't know, something called Shadow,
None (KPVPS000)	[3428] [...] yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3429] which was like sort of beige colour with gold erm, handles, and they sent a sort of bluey colour side rails and top, and thought they, they'd get away with it. [3430] I mean, they were actually looking at it and we were going, but it's not the same furniture.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3431] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[3432] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3433] And they were like, oh, oh well, what you mean, you, you're not prepared to have it. [3434] And like my parents sort of went, the thought that they gave them money that we had for it, yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3435] Yeah, exactly.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3436] Yeah, it's like you could actually, I mean once my mum had pointed it out, I'd never had noticed, but you walked into the bathroom and you thought, yeah,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3437] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3438] they are different colours. [3439] But like, obviously the bath and shower, cos they're plastic, they're not going to be exactly the same colours, so that's quite good, you can get away with that. [3440] But the two sinks the bidet and the toilet, were all like different shades, and you just like, yes, but is this all supposed to be the same thing.
None (KPVPS000)	[3441] [...] yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3442] And like, in the di in the disabled bathroom the, the er, it's not on a proper pedestal, so it's sitting on it
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3443] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3444] it's just got a bit to cover the pipes, so it just like, sits on the wall, so that you can get a wheelchair underneath.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3445] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3446] and it's much lower down, and this thing, it's like a gap, it's like ... this big around the bottom of the sink, so like it wasn't even touching the sink, the, the pedestal bit under bits underneath, it's like, it had a sort of similar sort of shape, so it should fit, but it was like, a massive gap underneath, like ... no ... [...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3447] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3448] I think a lot of people tend to put up with things, don't they?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3449] Well, they do, that's right.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3450] Don't like to complain.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3451] When you just think, the number of houses, not everybody can go through that, cos otherwise they would have done something about it.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3452] Yeah, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3453] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3454] In fact, to happen time and time again.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3455] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3456] It's like when we were in Cyprus, the amount of things that you can actually barter for. [3457] Do you know what I mean?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3458] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3459] And like, they'd say, this was so much money, and mum would say, any chance of a discount? [3460] And I think by the time she'd finished it would be half price, she'd walk out with the thing half price, and she'd say, well you know, it's just, they make up prices and you go to another shop and it would be the half price marked, and you go into another shop it would be, you know, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3461] [...] over there.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3462] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3463] That's what their, that's the whole way they trade. [3464] Over here you know, it's marked up that, and you just don't dare to
Rebecca (PS586)	[3465] But then the thing is that [laughing] my mum comes back here, and she's buying and she's like, any chance of a discount, and I thought mum, because she's like [] so into that lifestyle, now,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3466] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3467] like the culture, but it's amazing how many people, even in England, if you do have the audacity to ask
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3468] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3469] they will say, oh, alright then. [3470] And they give a, though she's not being like, really cheeky, it's because she's been living in a culture for four years, where [cough] that's the way they, they sell and buy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3471] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3472] But because she's back here, she still sometimes does it, and in fact they do do it for her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3473] If I'm in a shop and I find something that's slightly faulty, and I think, well I could easily fix that. [3474] I go up to the counter say, erm, I'd like this please, but it's actually got this tear in it, or whatever's wrong with it, erm, can you give me some discount? [3475] But a lot of places say, well, is there another one that's alright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3476] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3477] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3478] And so, you
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3479] They'd rather sell you the full price, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3480] Yeah, exactly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3481] [...] say that about
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3482] Some, some places say oh, yeah, alright then, I'll give you such and such off.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3483] It's the big warehouse places, you know, the big stores that aren't interested, if because
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3484] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3485] it's all mass produced and they might as well not sell it to you, and send it back to the manufacturers and get a full discount.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3486] True.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3487] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[3488] Sometimes if you offer to pay for things for cash, you get a discount,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3489] Mm.
None (KPVPS000)	[3490] because they have to pay, sort of, two or three percent on ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[3491] Yeah, we did that, when you bought our erm,
None (KPVPS000)	[3492] [...] and things.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3493] when we bought our chest of drawers.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3494] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3495] We got twenty five off didn't we?
None (KPVPS000)	[3496] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3497] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3498] Yeah. [3499] But I think that was
Anne (PS6RW)	[3500] I never ask, I mean, that's really stupid of me, which I, I wish I did, I just always just, I don't know, I'm really stupid like that.
None (KPVPS000)	[3501] Never any harm in asking, though, is there, as you say [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3502] You ask.
None (KPVPS000)	[3503] Pardon?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3504] You ask.
None (KPVPS000)	[3505] Haven't really [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3506] You remember [...] have you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3507] Well, that's the thing, I think it's the English attitude, of
None (KPVPS000)	[3508] It depends, it depends on what it is, doesn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3509] oh don't, don't ask, because you don't want to look as if ,
None (KPVPS000)	[3510] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3511] either you haven't got the money or you don't want to [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3512] Yeah
None (KPVPS000)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3513] because people look at you, and just like, oh gosh how scummy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3514] Well, it's just that,
Rebecca (PS586)	[3515] But it's not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3516] I wouldn't I wouldn't even think of asking.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3517] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3518] The best thing to get richer is like, going round car boot sales, like my mum, she's so funny, dad said she's a different woman, she's just like, cos when Phil and I erm, were engaged, we were trying to save up money, so we, oh and like we'd sell off all our old stuff, so just give me [...] of money, and then, we got these [...] and my mum was pricing everything up, and she's going, if someone asks for a discount, don't, just don't give it to them, she said, everyone's going round pricing everything up and erm, when they come to you, they just, they just want things for nothing. [3519] She's going on and on about everybody wants something for nothing. [3520] [laugh] And she's just like, this really officious and then, she just said, everybody goes round, and they try and get the cheapest price and they go back to the place that are giving the cheapest price, whatever. [3521] She'd say, stand your ground, don't, you know, sort of like, then she goes round to everybody else, trying to get everything for nothing. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3522] Yeah, exactly.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3523] Funny, though, watching people,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3524] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3525] cos I mean, I had to help my dad with a car boot sale, this is a man who doesn't buy anything erm, secondhand
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3526] People just turn vicious.
Anne (PS6RW)	[3527] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3528] would only shop in Harrods. [3529] And there he was at a car boot sale, it was like
Inga (PS6RY)	[3530] Well, it's amazing what people will buy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3531] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3532] You get couples who shop together and then they get addicted to your car boot, and they want everything and it's quite amusing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3533] I've had people, I've, I've driven up and it's in the pouring rain, and you've people just, they hoard round your car as you drive up. [3534] You can't actually get things out of your car. [3535] [laugh] And you take out a box of stuff and they're sorting through the stuff and you're like, excuse me, and you're trying to get your tables out
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[3536] [...] you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3537] and your things put on,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3538] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3539] and you know, all this sort of stuff, and they won't even let you get things out the car, I mean, they are in your car it's like [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3540] And then you all go round the car boot and they have their own car and they'll be selling your stuff out of it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3541] I've had people come up and buy records and tapes and things and they've gone back to their stall which is all they sell is records and tapes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3542] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3543] and they've priced them up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3544] Honestly.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3545] They've bought them off yo them off you, say for three pound
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3546] My gosh.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3547] and selling them at seven.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3548] Crikey.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3549] So you really have to keep an eye out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3550] You gotta know what you're on about.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3551] Yeah, exactly. [3552] I mean, I got wise to it after a while.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3553] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3554] I had some guys come up, and they were, they were really pissed off with me because, my mum sort of like, this guy just done this with th th the stall next door, but he left some stuff that he obviously already had things of, which he didn't think it was worth him buying, and this guy came round, and they were obviously from one of these, you know how you get erm, secondhand erm record stores
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3555] [...] yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3556] yeah, actual, you know, shops that [cough] and erm, there's these two guys together and they were really trying to intimidate me, I mean like, big stuff. [3557] They, they priced everything up, and they said, right that's eleven pounds, what can you do me for. [3558] I said, I beg your pardon? [3559] Said, well what price would you give me? [3560] I said, the prices are marked on the thing

8 (Tape 130501)

Rebecca (PS586)	[3561] That was provided by erm ...
Ann (PS5AF)	[3562] Oh yeah, it's really good. [3563] It really picks up things very well.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3564] Yeah.
Ann (PS5AF)	[3565] Yeah, it's excellent.
None (KPVPS002)	[3566] Yes, they're really expensive to buy, they're about ninety quid to buy.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3567] You'll just have to ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3568] what, those walkmans ...
None (KPVPS002)	[3569] Yeah, 'cos that's got a radio you can use with it, as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3570] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3571] You can use it for an interview.
Ann (PS5AF)	[3572] They don't usually have record buttons, do they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3573] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3574] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3575] Well, last night, I went through all the different topics, you know, the composer situation. [3576] And I went through them and I I narrowed it down to three ... things now. [3577] Task or topic
None (KPVPS002)	[3578] What you were gonna
Rebecca (PS586)	[3579] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[3580] do in your essay?
Rebecca (PS586)	[3581] Either that ...
Ann (PS5AF)	[3582] I thought you were reading the Alchemist or something.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3583] I was, but I erm, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3584] Well, I finished that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3585] Oh, good.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3586] Finished it all, and then, I just decided ... then I sorted out my washing, and then I decided what part I was gonna do, I'd narrowed it down to either topic, task or topic erm, stable features, which are, sort of, erm, self confidence and things, and erm, how you you express yourself, and then a third one is like sex an and gender and age.
Ann (PS5AF)	[3587] Do you have to do all this from the tapes that have been recorded.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3588] Well.
Ann (PS5AF)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3589] Yeah, you're meant to do your own recordings.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3590] If if not, you supposed to record, they're supposed to be, in fact, two minutes, and I couldn't read, 'cos two minutes is about half ... two sides of of transcript, so that's all we need really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3591] So it's ... otherwise, it would be just too big to analyse.
None (KPVPS002)	[3592] Plus, all us, we had to do erm, transcribe ... five minutes. [3593] Well do you know how long that would,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3594] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[3595] can you imagine how long that would take, it would just be impossible. [3596] We were o on ... and I thought, no way, and then Marianne said, no, it's ju , she said, that's too much, we'll be, and like, erm, [...] , we'll knock off er, five hundred words of your assignment, if you do five minutes of thing, and that's, no way.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3597] [...] , really.
None (KPVPS002)	[3598] you're gonna do well over five hundred words, bloody writing it out. [3599] [sniff] so Marianne well, she said, she said, well okay then, do five hundred. [3600] Like both sides, to do like two and a half pages.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3601] Well, I don't mind doing that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3602] Thing is, they say, take half an hour to transcribe two minutes, but that's probably by professionals anyway.
None (KPVPS002)	[3603] It does, the thing is, if you've got a lot of speakers ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[3604] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[3605] Becaus I mean, the the one I've got here, [...] the one I've got, erm, er that I taped on Saturday night, there's seven people on it, and they all keep cutting across each other on it, it would just be impossible.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3606] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[3607] Was it a good conversation, though?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3608] Bet that was good though
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3609] The effects when listening back to it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3610] How are you [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3611] It was just like being at the cinema, but it's just like being, it's just like being in the room again, because of the conversation's back. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[3612] Was this seven girls, or ...
None (KPVPS002)	[3613] No, there's there's [noise - background] Phil, and erm, Nicole's erm, the girl she lived with last year, her and her boyfriend came.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3614] Oh.
None (KPVPS002)	[3615] So there's two blokes and five girls. [3616] And we, it's really funny because of we started off the evening talking about leg waxing [laugh] . [3617] The conversation keeps coming back to leg waxing at every quarter of an hour, it's really funny.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3618] Really.
None (KPVPS002)	[3619] Yeah. [3620] Oh my God.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3621] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3622] Who does it then?
None (KPVPS002)	[...] [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3623] And erm, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3624] I was telling my mum and dad about that,
None (KPVPS002)	[3625] No, everyone was bringing it back, it was, Ben [...] from bringing it back to it. [3626] And Claire did, and so did Charlotte, it was really ... oh. [noise - background]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3627] I I told my mum and dad about that on Sunday, that she's got a leg waxing machine. [3628] I said she had been trained properly, I was telling them just basically about Claire in general and just about the good of erm, things like [...] things you like to talk about, and erm, so I just, I said, they cried poverty, I said, but you know, one minute she's driving her old banger, and the next minute she's got a K reg and [...] outside the [...] ,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3629] And then I said, then she'd been bought a a hundred pound of leg waxing machine.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3630] Does it look good on. [3631] I hope ...
None (KPVPS002)	[3632] She shares it with her mum. [3633] I don't think her mum uses it very much.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3634] 'Cos I imagine it to be really sort erm, medieval
None (KPVPS003)	[3635] Hi.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3636] Hi yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[3637] really, really old.
None (KPVPS002)	[3638] I don't know, I I d , they're very expensive, I should imagine. [3639] I wouldn't bother with one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3640] Hi yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3641] Have you seem them, then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3642] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3643] How are you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3644] Fine. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3645] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3646] [laugh] Arr. [3647] What is that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3648] [...] not the only one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3649] That's nice.
None (KPVPS002)	[3650] You got your tickets?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3651] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3652] Oh, that was quick
None (KPVPS002)	[3653] So you've got to flog another one to someone.
None (KPVPS003)	[3654] No, no, no, Kerry's coming, erm, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3655] Oh, that's good.
None (KPVPS003)	[3656] [...] she's in Northampton, she's [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3657] Oh, right, that's good.
None (KPVPS003)	[3658] And she said she'd come. [3659] I've just phoned her up just to tell her.
None (KPVPS002)	[3660] Jolly gee. [3661] I'm gonna see [...] on Thursday,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3662] Are you?
None (KPVPS002)	[3663] afternoon.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3664] How much did it come to?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3665] Only five fifty, I think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3666] Oh, really.
None (KPVPS002)	[3667] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3668] What is it?
None (KPVPS002)	[3669] It's called Two Gentlemen of Veronna?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3670] Ohh.
None (KPVPS002)	[3671] I don't know what it's about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3672] I think,
None (KPVPS002)	[3673] Is it good?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3674] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[3675] It's meant to be really funny,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3676] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3677] and it's meant to be a really good production.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3678] Is that the R S C?
None (KPVPS002)	[3679] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3680] Oh, that's good.
None (KPVPS002)	[3681] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3682] Is it in the pit, or is it in the the theatre?
None (KPVPS002)	[3683] I don't where it is, er Nicole just s said, do you want to come, and I said, oh yeah okay, it's only gonna cost a fiver. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3684] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3685] [...] lot of things, if they weren't erm, we're doing theatre and drama next term.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3686] Oh, right.
None (KPVPS002)	[3687] so. [3688] Actually, I I want, don't know whether you want interested in coming, I'm not sure whether I wanna go, but either next week, it'll have to be next week, 'cos I think after I won't be here, I'm going home. [3689] There is a play showing at erm, The Orange Tree, it's by Faye Weldon. [3690] I don't know whether you ... [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3691] Oh, yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3692] She wrote, The Love and Lives of the She Devil, and she's written it, she wrote it especially for The Orange Tree Theatre about ... ten years ago, and now she's re-doing it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[clears throat] [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[3693] It's already recording, yeah. [3694] Now she's re-written it, and er, it's gonna be shown there, and it's only, seats gonna be about a fiver, if you go, er in the afternoons. [3695] If you were going.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3696] Mm. [3697] Where's that?
None (KPVPS002)	[3698] The Orange Tree erm, Theatre. [3699] There's a play on by, it's called Mr Director. [3700] [noise - background] It's on by Faye, it's written by Faye Weldon.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3701] Oh.
None (KPVPS002)	[3702] And erm, I want to go and see it [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3703] Well, I'll go on my own, if need be. [3704] I'm just asking if anyone's interested [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3705] Yeah, I'll go.
None (KPVPS002)	[3706] I thought about going on Monday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3707] Erm, the twenty-sixth, I think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3708] Let's see if I go home, yet.
None (KPVPS002)	[3709] Yeah, well, I I I might, it might not be definite, but I think they want to go and see it before it goes on, and it's only a fiver, and I'd really like to see it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3710] How, how are those things made. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3711] It's got erm, it's with the same [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3712] [...] Sheba,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3713] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3714] Erm, I just went upstairs, to see if I've got a blank tape, and I haven't got a blank tape.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3715] How did er T V go this morning?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3716] Excellent.
None (KPVPS002)	[3717] Yeah, what was you doing to him,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3718] Camera C.
None (KPVPS002)	[3719] So was I, I was doing camera two.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3720] Excellent.
None (KPVPS002)	[3721] It's brilliant, innit. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [voice level very low]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3722] Really, really enjoying it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3723] Oh, that was erm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3724] Turn it up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3725] [...] Oh it's not fair [voice level very low]
None (KPVPS002)	[3726] No, I love th , erm the acting was excellent this morning.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3727] Was it, oh good. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3728] Have you managed to get lots of volunteers to do your outing with Mary and Fiona.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3729] well, [...] sort of, erm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3730] [...] nurses, yeah [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3731] [...] are you doing the same things.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3732] Yeah, the same thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3733] Erm, 'cos I I didn't put an [...] at all, and like the three blokes, there were only three lads and us anyway. [3734] So, so they had to do it.
None (KPVPS002)	[3735] What, that's a bit out of order, innit, poor sods.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3736] They sort of went mm alright.
None (KPVPS002)	[3737] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3738] So they did it, and erm ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3739] Is it a [...] play?
None (KPVPS002)	[3740] Yeah, we did ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3741] Yeah, we had to call it, Lear's Lily
None (KPVPS002)	[3742] Lily
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3743] And, her [...] nurse. [3744] And I just kept quiet. [3745] And erm, [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[3746] I just sat there and thought, I'm not doing it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3747] Yeah,
None (KPVPS002)	[3748] if they ask me, I'm not doing it, I'm sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3749] And erm,
None (KPVPS002)	[3750] And I really like, really work psyched myself up for it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3751] And who did it in the end, who's doing it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3752] Erm, Alice said she would do Lily,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3753] So you had to ask actual [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3754] Oh, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3755] erm, and Martin and Den had already volunteered to be in it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3756] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3757] and then, David, was so- sort of bludgeoned into doing it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3758] [laugh] oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3759] David ... Brush.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3760] David Brush, and we we're still wa we're waiting on a Lily, so I think we might be asking Naomi to do our Lily for u
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3761] I mean nurse
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3762] er, nurse for us,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3763] 'cos we haven't got a nurse.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3764] Well, there's so [...] part, you know, what I thought, I really would like to do to camera, and I was a bit, thought, well, everyone's gonna want to do camera so
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3765] That's what I thought, and nobody wants to do it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3766] Nobody wants, no,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3767] and I
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3768] I started our first one, and I said I would, normally I I put my hand up, 'cos I wanted to direct.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3769] I'll do it . [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3770] Yeah, and erm, [...] yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3771] [...] quite nice as well actually, because there's not that many shots, and there's a nice break between all of them, isn't there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3772] Yeah, and there nice easy shots, really.
None (KPVPS002)	[3773] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3774] Yeah, and erm,
None (KPVPS003)	[3775] [giggle] Sounds cools, doesn't it. [3776] I wish I could have a go.
None (KPVPS002)	[3777] It is really [...] I loved it, I was really enjoying it. [3778] I thought, yeah, this is what I wanna do.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3779] Have you got erm, you know you have the screen, and the monitor screen, have you got s , you know like they have on T V, the the writing that comes on, sort of, like a telephone number comes on the bottom of it, is it, have you got that, special things like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3780] Yes, you can do that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3781] What, what, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3782] You can do, you can put [...] you can put like credits up and you can put, you could put
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3783] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3784] a telephone number up, couldn't you? [3785] It's just superimposed on the bottom. [sniff]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3786] At the bottom of it, yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3787] It's amazing what they can do, innit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3788] In a way, I wish I was doi I wish I could equal acting on T V.
None (KPVPS002)	[3789] Do you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3790] I really liked [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3791] I liked to do T V, I'd like to do camera work.
None (KPVPS002)	[3792] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3793] Would you have to go to university.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3794] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3795] [...] or just six weeks. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3796] No, it's for, it carries on till the end of semester one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3797] What's art and techniques, then?
None (KPVPS002)	[3798] Living theatre.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3799] The living theatre takes up, it comes up in the living theatre.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3800] The living theatre, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3801] whatever it is [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3802] And do we then stop our majors or what?
None (KPVPS002)	[3803] I would imagine so, yeah, I think, then you pick them up in year three if you want to. [3804] Which meant if I did it in year three, which I'd liked to, then you'd obviously equal [...] or went into drama. [3805] 'Cos I I like my English, I don't want to er, I don't know, I see how this year goes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3806] Or m minor my English.
None (KPVPS002)	[3807] Well, it all depends how it goes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3808] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3809] I mean, at the moment,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3810] I don't know if minor isn't, if if you minor English, isn't it just major authors,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3811] Yeah, that all I w
None (KPVPS002)	[3812] Is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3813] That's what really pisses me off, 'cos I'd like to the whole
None (KPVPS002)	[3814] Oh, really? that's what [...] I didn't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3815] I wanted to fo major authors. [3816] But I would rather not fiddle around with other, I'd rather have not done tha well, no I wanted to do language when I when I put my options down, but now,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3817] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3818] You're not [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3819] No. [3820] doing ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3821] No, you're doing the same as I am, aren't you, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3822] [...] yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3823] You can't go to college.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3824] Er.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3825] You can't go to drama college, can you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3826] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3827] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3828] You can?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3829] But ...
None (KPVPS002)	[3830] Yeah, you can go on a major or equal, can't you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3831] I thought perhaps then you just can't single.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3832] ... make use of them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3833] No. [3834] no.
None (KPVPS002)	[3835] You just can't single in any of them, but next year there doing single language, aren't they? [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3836] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3837] [...] drama [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3838] Or they're doing single [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3839] They're doing it now, they're doing [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3840] Single Irish.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3841] I didn't think it was all subjects, I thought it was just history
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3842] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3843] I thought it was like history and English [...] and erm, [clicking in the background]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3844] [...] [laughing] the tape [...] with that one []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3845] [...] we just do well [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3846] [...] gone the same [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3847] [...] than bloody English, then I think I'd go abroad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3848] Yeah, I'd go mad ... I like to do ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3849] Oh, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3850] like geography, I wouldn't mind doing that 'cos I'm used to it. [3851] But erm, you know the English, the major author's [...] list can you try and find it after this.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3852] Yeah, I'll do it later.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3853] 'Cos, if if, if you can try and find it before I go, if not, if you can't find it I'll ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3854] What do you want?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3855] I want the list of the major auth , yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3856] We doing Dominiques aren't we?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3857] We're doing Dominiques next week?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3858] Erm, did you put that on the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3859] Bugger.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3860] Bugger, no shit. [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[3861] God.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3862] You might have put it on the word processor and she could print off
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3863] What?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3864] a copy for everybody. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [giggle]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3865] Can you do it now, please.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3866] [laughing] they've lost their copy. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3867] I went up last week, and erm, everyone, there was no one there, so er. [3868] Erm. [3869] I rang my mum, because she didn't ring me last night,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3870] Why didn't she ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3871] This is just while I remember to tell you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3872] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3873] My dad answered the phone, and I said, erm, you know, hello, is everything alright, blah, blah, blah, and I said, dad, why didn't mum phone me last night, and he said, probably because she can't speak. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3874] Oh, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3875] what's wrong, ah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3876] yeah, this,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3877] Ah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3878] from this infection
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3879] Ah, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3880] she's had. [3881] So erm, he said, she'll, she'll ring you, he said, she'd here, but she'll ring you later.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3882] [...] are you all right, mum. [giggle]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3883] [laugh] [mimicking] I'm all right, all right. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3884] [...] through the nose, yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3885] No, erm, she sent off for some curtains [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3886] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3887] [...] oh wow, she sent for some curtains [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3888] Some curtains and carpets for us.
None (KPVPS002)	[3889] Has she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3890] Yes, posted ... Thursday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3891] [...] what?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3892] I don't know when we'll get them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3893] [...] computer [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3894] I'm sorry but the tape [...] while you're [crackling in background] otherwise I'll [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3895] Oh, that's good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3896] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3897] So you didn't, you didn't [...] upstairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3898] Yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3899] I thought, Oh God, don't let anything has happened, anything [...] me. [3900] Just like to get me tannoyed this morning, thinking something's wrong, something's wrong they haven't phoned and they don't want to tell me. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3901] You read, what was it, something ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3902] Oh, like, when erm, David died, she wouldn't phone me because
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3903] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3904] she was like, when I did phone, you know, she was like, I really wish you hadn't phoned.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3905] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3906] and I was thinking, oh great. [3907] So, erm, you know, I always thought oh, she's [...] with the dog and that. [3908] [...] but I heard it all later.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3909] She didn't ... [music]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3910] Did your [...] all right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3911] Yeah, she was just worried about annoying me, I'm like, affect [...] really, [laugh] is that alright, I hope she's gonna be alright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3912] [...] really annoyed about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3913] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3914] Yeah, I save that
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3915] Yeah. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3916] [...] pictures can't we [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3917] We can go now [...] look after my dog.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3918] We can always go shopping or something.
None (KPVPS002)	[3919] Yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3920] Window shopping. [singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3921] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3922] No. [3923] no, but she sort of said, about her mum and dad, I mean, it's true, 'cos her dad was on overseas pay and he was in Cyprus, and [...] it's it's different now that they're back in England. [3924] Obviously they don't need the same kind of money, but her [...] like they don't get a don't get a grant for her or her brother,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3925] Don't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3926] and it's less than what they were receiving come to, and that's what he was getting, and now he's getting a lot less.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3927] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3928] but they don't do that, do they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3929] [...] the year before, don't they, so if you don't get any money the previous year, [...] through.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3930] I hope that doesn't cause [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3931] [...] yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3932] It's a good idea, why not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3933] Wag's in.
None (KPVPS002)	[3934] Oh, where is he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3935] [...] erm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3936] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3937] Oh, he's hiding in the [...] is he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3938] Try it [...] first heard [...] it's really good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[3939] He's eaten it cold, though.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3940] Oh, I'd eat it cold.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3941] I'd love eating [...] I had roast parsnips, brussel sprouts, carrots, and boiled [...] and baked alaska, [laugh] and it was really nice. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3942] I had [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3943] Oh, was it nice?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3944] I had broccoli, and cauliflower and [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3945] Ohh
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3946] [...] foods [...] oh, slow down. [3947] Must be [...] what.
None (KPVPS002)	[3948] [...] oh dear, they getting him christened already. [3949] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3950] No, I mean the traditional [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3951] Isn't it horrible when you don't know what to pay for things.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3952] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3953] How [...] is it. [3954] Your dad.
None (KPVPS002)	[3955] Well, it must be pretty soon. [3956] They wouldn't have done it in [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3957] What?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3958] Dale's [...] dying.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3959] What soon?
None (KPVPS002)	[3960] No, I wouldn't think it would be soon.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3961] They're concentrating on it a bit now, aren't they.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3962] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3963] Oh, his dad's died. [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[3964] What did you say?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3965] [...] [laughing] died [] .
None (KPVPS002)	[3966] I hate that top she wears.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3967] Twiggy. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3968] I've been in Twiggy Porsche.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3969] My claim to fame.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3970] Been in Twiggy's Porsche. [3971] Have you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3972] Shh
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3973] One of my dad's friends, one of our friends at our old pub, owns it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3974] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3975] This annoys me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3976] Sorry, go on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3977] It was a crap heap, really by the time he'd got it, but you know, it had been a good car. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3978] It just annoys me, the way they don't tie their hair back [...] in the coffee shop. [3979] It just drives me up the wall.
None (KPVPS002)	[3980] Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3981] [...] it's a bit unrealistic, isn't it?
None (KPVPS002)	[3982] Aw. [3983] [...] they op they did about that in Neighbours, aren't they, they had the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3984] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3985] [...] the basic developers.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3986] It really gets on my nerves. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3987] But none of them tied with their hair back.
None (KPVPS002)	[3988] No, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3989] Especially, that thing.
None (KPVPS002)	[3990] Different hygiene things out there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3991] You would think, you know.
None (KPVPS002)	[3992] Yeah, it is bad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3993] Could at least tie it back.
None (KPVPS002)	[3994] I really don't like his character any more.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3995] Sorry?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3996] I really don't like Greg's character any more.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3997] Oh, Greg.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[3998] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[3999] Yeah, he does, dunne he, [...] the cleaner or something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4000] She's become a right mumsy type, like erm ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4001] It's one thousand six hundred dollars, though.
None (KPVPS002)	[4002] Is he trying to flog them thingies.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4003] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4004] Yeah, Adam's actually said he can join him now.
None (KPVPS002)	[4005] Oh, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4006] They're splitting profits, fifty, fifty ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4007] He hasn't been in it for a long time.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4008] That's because [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4009] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4010] Up on top of the [...] counter.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4011] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4012] You can [...] at the back.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4013] It's a bit erm, [...] takes so much alcohol [...] isn't it, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4014] I love it when they start talking, [...] in the street, they have to ... sort of, adapt to it, don't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4015] Yeah, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4016] Yeah, because of suddenly they're [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4017] Sometimes their children are with the camera man, don't they, and you can see them going coo.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4018] It's something like with Birds of a Feather, and Dorian just burst out laughing, you know, she went, hahaha, I think it was down as part of the script, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4019] What was that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4020] On Birds of a Feather, and Dorian said something to Sharon, and er, then she said well, and she just went hahaha. [...] from er jug, but I [...] part
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4021] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4022] that sounded really good, I thought you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4023] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4024] Oh, who's that girl? [...] [tv in background] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4025] It's like a little girls things innit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4026] Yeah, but of course they went to the right [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4027] Yeah, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4028] I don't little boys in in gowns. [4029] My mum has [...] in sort of, erm, little [...] sort of white suits [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4030] Had a dog on it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4031] It was really nice, but, [...] about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4032] Eighteen months.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4033] Have you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4034] She's gonna have a pink little dress.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4035] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4036] Who's that girl?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4037] Yeah, I was just gonna say that. [4038] It's like erm, [...] to have funny name.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4039] No, I just saw her, did you see her a minute ago.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4040] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4041] Or was it ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4042] No, it was on the titles.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4043] Yeah, she was on the titles, wasn't she? [4044] She was, yeah. [4045] 'Cos I [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4046] Oh, you're never gonna guess what's on today?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4047] Original cooking, [...] today.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4048] Er.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4049] What's her name [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4050] Is she with [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4051] Erm, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4052] I said good luck. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4053] I thought they [...] [tv loud] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4054] Oh I see. [watching tv]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4055] he's watching you [...] [dishing up meal]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4056] You know you got Bobby there, and Alf's just talking and [...] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4057] [mimicking] that's just the sort of kid he is []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4058] He's a sod ain't he? ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4059] Has erm, Irene gone?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4060] Yeah ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4061] Oh, he [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4062] Oh, he's quite cute, innit he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4063] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4064] She gonna fall in love with him, is she? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4065] With the dog. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4066] Well, some, some sort of link we're meant to get there. [4067] I'm not quite sure, that was [...] for some reason.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4068] Ar.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4069] Sort of, like when your combing your hair, innit erm, in the bath [laugh] keeps on, do my hair, do my hair.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4070] Me mum puts all ribbons and stuff in her hair [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4071] Aw, isn't she cute.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4072] Wow.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4073] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4074] [...] this morning, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4075] I haven't been doing much on Sunday. [4076] Did you, did you see the girl in front of us. [4077] Do you think she had [...] coloured hair? [4078] She had the straight, straight hair that had a reddy tinge on it, it was really nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4079] No, it was [...] there was the girl who had hair down to about here. [4080] I mean it was a gorgeous colour. [4081] [...] describe it, it was brown, it had like red in it as well and it was so curly, it must have been natural.
None (KPVPS002)	[4082] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4083] But it was just tiny, tiny ringlets all the way down.
None (KPVPS002)	[4084] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4085] It was really thick and bushy, and came out [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4086] Bet she hated it [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4087] I don't know, she was really petite and very attractive and together with the hair ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4088] Yeah, but you don't really get [...] like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4089] At erm, summer camp, when I came last year as well, there were sisters, and the oldest one was about twelve, the next one was about ten, and the next one was about eight and they they were half cast, I'm not qu quite sure,the their mother was sort of, she's dark, she's sort of half cast, and they've got, they all very very attractive girls, with such lovely hair, just corkscrew, it's really lovely, and they come out the erm, swimming pool and they bring their their erm, shampoo and their conditioner with them, and do [...] I can't just see this the family look. [4090] The woman was erm, was Chinese and the husband was ginger haired.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4091] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4092] The children had this sort of, red gorgeous colour hair oh, you know with the Chinese faces,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4093] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4094] [...] Japanese [...] erm, boy and girl as well, and they were just adorable, just so good, such lovely looking children [...] [mimicking] Japanese [...] [] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4095] [...] children.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4096] It's lovely [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [tv loud]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4097] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4098] [...] fed up,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4099] I'd rather [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4100] I'd like my children to have red hair, actually. [4101] Well, not red head, [...] isn't red, but the same colour hair as me. [4102] But you don't know, do you, because sometimes it all depends ... because I'm like the only one in my family,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4103] Yeah?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4104] [...] Joanna's hair's dark, then Hazel's ... darkish, Maria's got brownie ... hair.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4105] So they're all dark, really, aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4106] Yeah, and then Brian's sort of got gingery tints in his hair, but my dad's still brown.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4107] Oh, who's the ginger hair then, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4108] [...] or was it Hanna, Richard [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4109] Is that [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4110] Mm. [4111] I think it's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4112] Yeah, I don't know [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4113] Oh, not much.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4114] [...] finished starts a long way back, don't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4115] Yeah, it does, doesn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4116] She sort of isn't she.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4117] She looks like a bloody dog.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4118] But her hair's not that [...] she needs to get [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4119] She's a [...] but it's too harsh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4120] God [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4121] Surely Greg's [...] ... [watching tv]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4122] Yeah ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4123] How old is he then, seventeen?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4124] Mm ... I don't know, he might be sixteen.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4125] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4126] Damien doesn't exactly look seventeen, does he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4127] No.
None (KPVPS002)	[4128] You know, he looks like [...] [shouting] Oh, what, he's so sad. [] ... [watching tv] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4129] Every time they're running short on the story line, they have some sort of competition.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4130] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4131] [...] remember they had that erm, competition for the surf man. [4132] Matt was in it and Adam and it was a race, and erm, the teacher,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4133] Hey, you know that ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4134] I don't remember that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4135] Mm ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] ...
None (KPVPS002)	[4136] [laugh] What?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4137] What did you [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4138] Yeah, [...] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4139] [...] shag. [laugh] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4140] [laugh] I went to see her in panto, honestly, she was terrible, she whined [whispering] yeah [] her voice was even more marked Aus Australian than it is on here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4141] Really bad ...
None (KPVPS002)	[4142] Do you think he's odd, do you think he's a weirdo?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4143] Don't know ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4144] It's it's the christening dress
None (KPVPS002)	[4145] Oh, it's the christening dress.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4146] Yeah, it's [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4147] Right. [4148] It's an antique and that bloke's an antique dealer, he's come to nick it off the line [...] and flog it for thousands. [4149] [laugh] Something naff like that. [4150] [shouting] oh []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4151] [shouting] No []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4152] Never mind [...] [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[4153] [...] [laugh] ... [singing] what hey hey [] ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[singing] [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4154] Ha ... [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4155] He just can't help himself, [...] can he.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4156] No.
None (KPVPS003)	[4157] You'd thought by now they would have sorted it out.
None (KPVPS002)	[4158] Yeah, it's a bit ongoing, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4159] Are you okay? [4160] Tug bloody started it.
None (KPVPS002)	[4161] Did he start it? ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4162] Oh, Bobby [...] back.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4163] [...] [whispering] Come on, Tug, don't worry [] ... Ah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4164] It goes on and on. [4165] Greg does provoke him though, doesn't he.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4166] [...] did it, oh they've changed the credits. [4167] Oh, buggery bollocks, we've missed it. [4168] The caravan parks getting [...] black the dog, Bassa. [4169] [laugh] [mimicking] Bassa the dog []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4170] [...] Stewarts.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4171] A little boy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4172] The one we've seen on t , yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4173] If they've got a a Victoria Wood, [...] is called Victoria Wood on here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4174] See that bloke there? [4175] I swear that was [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4176] You sure it's on it? [4177] [...] Alan
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4178] Isn't he one of the ...
None (KPVPS002)	[4179] Jacovitch. [4180] I know that name [...] Jacovitch.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4181] You know, for erm, T V
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4182] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4183] That he made when [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4184] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4185] And you made you in like camera work, or could you actually [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4186] I really don't know, I really don't know, Maria, I'm very badly informed on it, I'm afraid. [4187] Like with most of my subjects. [4188] [laugh] I don't know what's going on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4189] I was asking today in the English seminar, asking Mr Stevens if they knew about the erm, exam structure.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4190] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4191] And nobody knew about it, no-one [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4192] No, we haven't been told at all, have we? [4193] [belch] I think we should have said at the first the very first lesson, they just ploughed straight into [...] didn't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4194] 'Cos I just, I feel as if I'm much less aware of what's going on this year.
None (KPVPS002)	[4195] Than you were last year, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4196] Definitely I just don't what is [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4197] And it's and it's bad really, because this is actually our degree, this year.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4198] I mean [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4199] Last year, you know, totally rat-arsed. [...] now, he's putting up a list of all the poems he wants us to look at for next week.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4200] Oh, my God, I thou I don't know why I bothered buying Alchemist, it's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4201] Well, you never know, you might have to study it then for the exams.
None (KPVPS002)	[4202] Yeah, I suppose I might, if I have to.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4203] One of the girls, today, she wasn' say she wasn't sure, but she was saying that she heard that perhaps the exam structure you have to incorporate all three phases of the [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4204] Yeah, I think you might do. [4205] If I'm happy, then I'll do it ... obviously.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4206] Yeah
None (KPVPS002)	[4207] But I would rather not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4208] I might go and see Dave [...] and see if he's got any more books today.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4209] [...] not been on for ages.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4210] [laughing] what was that? []
None (KPVPS002)	[4211] Me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4212] I had Q T erm granules when they first came out, and they were the most revolting ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4213] That's white tea, though, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4214] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4215] Yes, white.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4216] It's horrid.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4217] I mean, I can't imagine that I'd ever want to drink anything [...] you know, erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4218] [yawning] Instant white tea, that sounds gross. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4219] The whole point of tea, is that it has to brew, isn't it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4220] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4221] Oh, is this on tonight?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4222] I don't watch this.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4223] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4224] The Queen goes up to that girl with the eyebrows, and she goes, [mimicking] and how are you today? [4225] I'm fine, but she's just nicked my eyebrows []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4226] She's saying well keep them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4227] No. [4228] [...] I saw another place [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4229] In fact, I'm [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4230] I really need them
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4231] Oh, that's just the upper hand [...] isn't it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4232] Is the kettle full then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4233] Yeah, Beckie's filling it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4234] Oh, well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4235] No. [4236] Penny today, then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4237] No, I haven't seen her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4238] Thought she would have come round [...] yesterday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4239] She probably be round at some point today, won't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4240] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4241] She has [...] on Tuesdays.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4242] Shall I make another pot of tea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4243] Oh, yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4244] Oh, sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4245] So what have you been doing this morning Em, lots of work.
None (KPVPS003)	[4246] Erm, [laughing] no []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4247] [...] T V to be perfectly frank. [4248] I was going to ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4249] No, no. [4250] Richard and Judy, erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4251] Oh God.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4252] I had one of those yoghurts last night, and they are so nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4253] [...] so gross.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4254] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4255] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4256] Which one?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4257] [...] out yoghurts.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4258] [...] for fourteen p.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4259] [...] fourteen p.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4260] Is there erm, is there any fruit in them, or not?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4261] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4262] Yeah, brilliant. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4263] [...] fat [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4264] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4265] What flavour did you get.?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4266] I just got three strawberry ones, and three [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4267] They only do strawberry, oh, and I hate it in yoghurts they're [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4268] Stra er, strawberry, black cherry, I think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4269] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4270] Or peach melba, but I only like strawberry but I thought [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4271] I love their skin.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4272] Yeah, but everything, all yoghurts are so expensive, aren't they, you know?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4273] There's an offer at the moment [...] sixty four.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4274] So, I mean, that's not bad, but most of them are about one twenty for four, aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4275] Which is taking the piss, really, isn't it. [4276] That's like getting on for thirty P a yoghurt.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4277] Buy them individually, they are.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4278] Yeah, M and S you are, they ask about thirty P
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4279] They are, they're extortionate prices. [4280] If you buy a Shape yoghurt on its own.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4281] Oh yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4282] They're about thirty-two P
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4283] Yeah, [yawning] [...] show you. [] [4284] M and S yoghurts were thir were thirty-one P I think, over the summer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4285] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4286] They were on special offer all summer. [4287] I think they're supposed to be thirty-four, normally.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4288] And that, did they erm, set yoghurts as well, by any chance, 'cos I prefer set yoghurts.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4289] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4290] I hate set yoghurts.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4291] I don't think so.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4292] No, I'm not great lover of [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4293] [...] yoghurts.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4294] 'Cos I just mash them up, first.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4295] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4296] No, 'cos I only like little ones. [4297] I can I can't eat a full yoghurt, so a little set yoghurt
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4298] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4299] Fromage frais is is perfect for me, so there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4300] [...] yoghurt. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4301] What?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4302] Yoghurts with I Q.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4303] Oh no, it's like, it's like with chocolate as well, I cut it up into little pieces, because I can't eat it all at once . [4304] I just don't like,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4305] [...] she'll eat them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4306] Well, you know what I mean. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4307] Ah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4308] Sorry, I didn't ask if you wanted any more tea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4309] No. [4310] You don't have to, but we live here. [4311] We should offer you [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4312] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4313] [...] so we don't, I mean, I don't [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4314] Help yourself.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4315] Okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4316] Has anyone, has anyone got any change of a fifty pence piece.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4317] I have.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4318] I have but I need for the I need it for the, er going into the er, washing machine.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4319] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4320] What's it for, to ring Kerry?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4321] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4322] You not, your not looking at me [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4323] What, what I'm not looking at you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4324] Are you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4325] You are,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4326] 'Cos you look as if you're [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4327] [laughing] [...] I mean, you know []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laughing] [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4328] [laughing] I look like a fly trap, yeah. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4329] [laughing] I mean, it looked as if you were looking at my chest, and just staring at my chest. [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4330] [laughing] No, but I think you're just totally right. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laughing] [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4331] Oh, my life.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4332] I think that, I don't know, it just seemed as if you were looking at me like [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4333] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4334] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4335] Have you been eating your muffins in there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4336] Hope [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4337] Your not phoning Kerry now before eight [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4338] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4339] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4340] Aren't I allowed to?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4341] No. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4342] My god, it's two o'clock in the afternoon. [4343] Are you phoning her now, why don't you phone her at seven.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4344] 'Cos I'll probably forget then. [4345] I was just thinking, I'd phone now, to do something, 'cos I'm bored.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4346] And your money was going twice as quick.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4347] Do some Alchemist.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4348] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4349] Yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4350] It looks so [...] don't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4351] Mm. [4352] I'll make a pot of tea. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4353] I'm going to the loo.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4354] What's that in there?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4355] Cottage cheese and Marmite.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4356] Ah, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4357] I love [...] and Marmite.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4358] Yes, so do I.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4359] And cucumber.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4360] Actually, Rose, could you give it another ten minutes, because Nicole will probably come round, and then we'll make a big pot of tea for all of us. [4361] Well, I'll make it, it will really nice, won't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4362] If you just right, lack of motivation at the moment, I need to get a glass of Lucozade I think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4363] You want to [...] you know me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4364] You think it really works, though.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4365] Sorry?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4366] Do I think it really works?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4367] Do you think Lucozade really works?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4368] I [...] when I've been ill.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4369] Yeah, so have I.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4370] Lucozade.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4371] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4372] It just not a drink I buy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4373] Tastes nice when you're ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4374] Tastes nice when you're ill, but
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4375] What's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4376] everything tastes nice when you're ill [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4377] Just gives you a [...] , does it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4378] Yeah, it's supposed to.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4379] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4380] I mean, I do find it nice when when I got flu or something, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4381] I just
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4382] it's cold, really really cold, really cold.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4383] [...] have you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4384] Doing now
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4385] I'd rather do than sitting here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4386] [...] they started doing diet Tizer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4387] Have they?
None (KPVPS002)	[4388] Yeah, 'cos Tizer's the only one they haven't been doing diet, and I've been getting really pissed off.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4389] Yeah, I've got half a [...] in the fridge, actually.
None (KPVPS002)	[4390] Yeah, they do diet now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4391] [...] in the fridge.
None (KPVPS002)	[4392] But I've only seen it in some of the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4393] I bet it tastes crap.
None (KPVPS002)	[4394] I bet it don't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4395] [...] Tizer.
None (KPVPS002)	[4396] Mind you, I don't mind diet drinks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[mimicking] [...] []
None (KPVPS002)	[4397] What, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4398] When we used to drink Tizer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4399] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4400] We used to buy it in Safeways. [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[4401] My dad used to buy it, always used to buy it on a Sunday evening. [4402] But I ne I'm going back years, 'cos I was on a diet, thinking, aw, I'm not drinking that, its got sugar in it. [4403] But now it's diet, I'll now definitely drink it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4404] Is it just erm, because it's got sugar in it, or because ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4405] I won't drink any diet drinks that are not diet if they're fizzy, because they've got so much sugar in 'em. [4406] You'd like teaspoon and teaspoons of it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4407] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4408] I just, the idea of eating that much sugar in er, just a glass of drink ...
None (KPVPS003)	[4409] That's why I think I'm really lucky, because I don't like, sort of fizzy drinks, I can't drink 'em.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4410] Oh, I love fizzy drinks.
None (KPVPS003)	[4411] I can't drink fizzy drinks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4412] I only drink wine if it's fizzy. [4413] I'm like,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4414] Yeah, wine's is all.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4415] [...] and they had white wine, or, er, red wine, and I went, oh have you got any lemonade. [4416] Like, don't you want any wine, I said I I only really like it when it's fizzy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4417] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4418] So I had some, Claire bought this Greek ... wine, and it was sweet, and I ...

9 (Tape 130502)

Ann (PS5AF)	[4419] You know like, if I'm really thirsty, I could just gulp down a glass of water or a glass of orange, just like that, but with fizzy drinks, I don't know, I can't swallow them very easily, just sort of er,
Rebecca (PS586)	[4420] They're really good at [...] aren't they?
None (KPVPS002)	[4421] She's so fussy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4422] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[4423] No, you were fussy as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4424] What, what am I fussy about?
Ann (PS5AF)	[4425] Fussy about everything.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4426] Oh, right.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4427] About leaving things around, things not being left in [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4428] I don't like a mess, but [...]
Ann (PS5AF)	[4429] No, I think I've got a right to be fussy. [4430] [...] [sniff] mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4431] I'll just eat anything.
None (KPVPS002)	[4432] You fussy about your tea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4433] Yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4434] I like my tea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4435] [...] coffee [...] actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4436] It has to be not too strong and not too weak. [4437] What Sam went through oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4438] So it can be weak, or ...
None (KPVPS002)	[4439] If you do get a drink, she'll make a pot, and it'll have like one tea-bag in it. [4440] And like she'd pour it out and it's really really weak and insipid, and I go, oh, [...] do you mind if I add a tea-bag to that. [4441] 'Cos she doesn't drink it with milk, so it don't really matter to her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4442] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4443] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[4444] 'Cos my mother, likes it really strong, and you like it really strong,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4445] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[4446] but sometim
Ann (PS5AF)	[4447] I used to drink really quite strong before, but I decided to give up erm, like, take less sugar, so if you take less sugar, I think I only took two sugars anyway, 'cos my tea was so strong, 'cos 'cos the stronger it is, you need more sugar to sweeten it. [4448] So I decided to give up one sugar and you know, I have to take it sort of weak weaker anyway. [4449] It's better for me, 'cos there's less caffeine, and I drink a lot of tea, so. [4450] So it's better. [4451] But I would try and give up sugar altogether, but I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4452] Well, you need to just give it up and [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4453] I can't stand tea with sugar in it.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4454] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4455] That's the way I did it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4456] Because, I I I
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4457] You can't reduce it and reduce it, 'cos then you're still depending on it.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4458] I did it with erm, with er, I went from one and a half and I'm down to one, 'cos I was, I I've tasted my father's sometimes, 'cos he thinks two and a half, he used to take three, [laugh] and I'm like aw it's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4459] Er. [4460] My dad used to take two sugars, and when I said I was giving up sugar in tea and coffee, he reduced it to one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4461] Yeah?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4462] Mm.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4463] 'Cos I think if I'd said, right I'm gonna give it up, I wouldn't drink tea ag again, 'cos I wouldn't be able to drink it, sort of without sugar.
None (KPVPS002)	[4464] Mm. [4465] What about sweeteners. [4466] How about trying those?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4467] Mm. [4468] It's funny, I thought about sweeteners the other day, I think it's just as bad as sugar, I think.
None (KPVPS002)	[4469] No, they're not, they got no calories in them, they've got something like nought point, nought, nought calories in them.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4470] No, it's not er calories, I'm thinking about erm, ruining my teeth, that's the only reason [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4471] Yeah, [...] in your teeth. [4472] It's not like putting a massive like spoon, if you think about it, right, if you have a spoonful of sugar in your tea,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4473] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[4474] it's just like drinking, it's just like getting a spoonful of sugar and sticking it in and wiping it around.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4475] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[4476] You just diluting it a bit in the the erm, tea. [4477] And if you drink as much tea as you say you do, just think how many teaspoons of sugar you have a day, extra.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4478] Mm. [4479] But I don't have any sugar in anything else, I don't I don't eat chocolate or anything, so that's a [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4480] [...] have got sugar in.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4481] Yeah. [4482] I only drink, what have you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4483] Sweet and sour sauce has got loads and loads of sugar in it. [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4484] You'd be surprised the amount of things that have got sugar in.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4485] Yeah. [4486] Yeah. [4487] You'd be surprised.
None (KPVPS002)	[4488] All sauces and that, have all got a load of sugar in.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4489] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[4490] Especially things like salad cream.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4491] My mother, she decided to give up sugar, I think it was about one year. [4492] Well, she just decided to give it u to give it up, she never used to take much anyway. [4493] But erm, she used to take one in coffee and nothing in suga , I mean in tea, I think, and then she just gave it up, and she said it, she hated it for ages, and then one day she she tasted, she drank my father's [...] and she said it was absolutely foul [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4494] That's what I'm like, I drink sugar with it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4495] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4496] [...] she going, [...] horrible, innit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4497] I did that the other week, [...] sort of going yuk
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4498] Mm. [4499] My mum drinks it black, so.
None (KPVPS002)	[4500] What, tea?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4501] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[4502] Why's that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4503] She just always has done. [4504] All her family, like [...] they all just drink tea with a very little drop of milk in it, and she always drank it with a little drop of milk, and then, she decided not to drink it with milk at all.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4505] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4506] So she has two sugars [laughing] instead [] .
Ann (PS5AF)	[4507] Sometimes, I've, I've had tea without milk, and it doesn't taste that different really, it's just [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4508] If you have skimmed milk, it doesn't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4509] [...] like water anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4510] It's just at the end it is, it's bitter at the end. [4511] You know, when I've tried it without milk, I just don't, I just leave about that much at the end, 'cos it gets really bitter.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4512] I never usually finish my tea, down [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4513] Oh, I do.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4514] but coffee I drain the cup, but tea I don't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4515] I couldn't do that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4516] I do.
None (KPVPS002)	[4517] My mum always used to say that, why haven't you drunk this little bit of tea in the bottom, but I never do. [4518] Just, you would always leave a little bit of tea in the bottom of the cup, I don't know why. [4519] [laugh] A phobia, I think there was somethin a spider at the bottom.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4520] [...] social convention. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4521] No, when, when we drink it at home, because [...] there are, not
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4522] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4523] not tea leaves as such, but there is [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4524] Yeah, residue.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4525] tea in the bottom of the cup, so it doesn't taste very nice.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4526] Because, I mean there is a difference between fresh tea and and er loose tea, and erm tea-bags, because there is [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4527] Do you have tea-bags at home?
Ann (PS5AF)	[4528] Yeah, we have tea-bags at home, but downstairs, the tea machine, you gotta use erm, well, they use loose tea. [4529] I mean, it is different, I never used to like the loose tea, when I was younger, but now I I sort of really taste the difference. [4530] I didn't, never used to taste as nice. [4531] But now, I I like it, I don't why.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4532] Well, Auntie [...] had a tin of loose tea and tea-bags all day, like normal days, they drink tea=bag tea. [4533] But if we go round there, [...] and they get the china cups out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4534] get the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4535] [laugh] get the [...] drinks. [4536] [...] loose tea. [4537] My mum 'cos it's so much cheaper to buy them the more [...] . [4538] No, we're not on the tea-bags this week,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4539] What just ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4540] I've just spent all my shopping,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4541] so you've got tea leaves.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4542] Yeah, it is it is cheaper to [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4543] Oh, yeah, very, very much cheaper.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4544] Look at that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4545] You're just paying for the convenience, aren't you, really with tea-bags, that they're just all sealed, you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4546] Yeah, I suppose.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4547] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4548] Not for anything else, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4549] Still the same flavour inside.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4550] I tell you what.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Ann (PS5AF)	[4551] No, I'm jut showing that I'm a bit bored, though [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4552] Bit bored. [laugh]
Ann (PS5AF)	[4553] [...] Tell you what is such a big con, was when the round tea bags came out, the round tea-bags.
None (KPVPS002)	[4554] They're nearly all round now, though, aren't they?
Ann (PS5AF)	[4555] I think that's such a con, they even had adverts [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4556] They they're erm, their better flavour for,
Ann (PS5AF)	[4557] Oh, [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4558] fuller flavour all round.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4559] Er.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Ann (PS5AF)	[4560] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4561] What does it matter if it's in a square bag or a round bag. [laugh]
Ann (PS5AF)	[4562] I bet if they brought it, done it in star shapes, people would go out and buy them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4563] I do prefer the round ones, though. [4564] I know it's stupid. [4565] [laugh] I do. [4566] I know it's pathetic, you know, I much rather have round ones. [4567] They look nicer in the cup.
Ann (PS5AF)	[4568] My mother though, she's er, she's does, she's not fussy about loose tea leaves, but she's gotta have a Glengetti tea-bag.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4569] She's a Thai.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4570] She won't drink any other tea. [4571] Erm, it's just the brand, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4572] It's the brand.
None (KPVPS002)	[4573] Never heard of them, have you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4574] No.
None (KPVPS002)	[4575] Glengetti?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4576] Welsh brand.
None (KPVPS002)	[4577] Oh, is it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4578] Yes, erm, [...] was saying to me [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4579] Could you send her down here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4580] No, no, [...] but erm, like [...] was saying, she doesn't reckon they are Welsh. [4581] She doesn't think they are Welsh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4582] With a name like Glengetti.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4583] I know, that's what I said [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4584] Welsh, Scottish, or Irish [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4585] [...] she says she reckons that it's Scottish, it's a Scottish brand, but you know, I don't think it must be.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4586] [...] in the er, dark ages. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4587] They are nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4588] Do your parents
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4589] But speaking to you
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4590] I know you don't, sorry
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4591] Carry on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4592] Your go.
None (KPVPS002)	[4593] Erm, I know your parents don't really eat much sweet stuff, but do you have, generally have any sweet stuff in the house, really or is it ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4594] No.
None (KPVPS002)	[4595] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4596] Like we might buy, my sister is, she loves chocolate, my mother would buy her packet of of Secrets or something, she buy a
None (KPVPS002)	[4597] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4598] six pack or something, but my mother very rarely buys biscuits or anything.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4599] Really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4600] Because we got biscuits downstairs, anyway,any way, so sometimes my mother has a cup of tea, and might just say oh go and get me erm, a Twirl, what are those twirl things. [4601] Walnut, walnut whip, that's it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4602] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4603] Oh, go and get me that packet of digestive biscuits [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4604] I'm not a great eater of [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4605] No, none of us really
None (KPVPS002)	[4606] We've always got sweets up in our house, but then again we've got young children. [4607] They eat so much.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4608] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4609] But what's the point in stocking up,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4610] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4611] if you've got it all downstairs, we can just nip downstairs.
None (KPVPS002)	[4612] Mm. [4613] That's true. [4614] Like if the shop was separate, if we had our own, sort of, house.
None (KPVPS002)	[4615] You just, you live quite a bit out of the shop. [4616] Do you get quite a stuff from the shop.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4617] Well, we haven't got a fridge upstairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4618] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4619] And I've been nagging my parents. [4620] At one point about three years ago, they said, right, we'll gonna buy a small fridge, so at least we can keep bread, milk, and things like that upstairs. [4621] And [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4622] Yet you got a proper kitchen upstairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4623] Yeah, we've got a proper kitchen, we just haven't got [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4624] With a cooker?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4625] Yeah [...] fridge.
None (KPVPS002)	[4626] Oh, what a pain in the arse, you have to go downstairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4627] Yeah. [4628] So, in the mornings, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4629] Is there space for a fridge?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4630] Not really. [4631] There'd be a space on the wall, perhaps small fridge, one of those small little ones, so you can just put the bare essentials in. [4632] But like, erm, in the holiday, sort of sometimes if I get up late, I'll come downstairs, and my mother's brought everything up, like the milk, the butter and cheese and br er bread's upstairs, but. [4633] But otherwise, I've got to go downstairs. [4634] Or if my mother comes up, and I'm sort of just getting up, she says, oh do you want me to bring stuff up, or ideally, I usually say or I'll come downstairs and get breakfast. [4635] But that's what I hate, I've got to go downstairs to get my breakfast.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4636] Oh, what pain.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4637] Got to go downstairs to get my lunch, it's really [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4638] If you've got a kitchen, it defeats the object, really, doesn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4639] Oh, no, 'cos you you you go cook upstairs, we've got a cooker [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4640] That's what I mean. [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4641] You've got to go downstairs to get everything.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4642] If you've got a kitchen upstairs, it defeats the object of you're having a fridge [...] [very loud background noise]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4643] Unless you bring up and down the stairs. [4644] [...] wouldn't you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4645] The thing is though, we've got erm, got one, two, three, four, we've got five fridges. [4646] You know, and and the one we use for the shop, for the kitchen, is just a converted drinks machine, so it's massive. [4647] It really is big. [4648] It's a big huge fridge. [4649] So we just keep everything in there. [4650] And like all the lettuce, the you know, all the foods that are usually used in the shop, we just use it for ourselves anyway. [4651] It, I go downstairs and my mother will make a big box of of tuna mayonnaise, I just get the tuna mayonnaise box, get some suga , you don't [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4652] It's quite handy really, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4653] We don't have our separate [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4654] yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4655] Yeah. [4656] We don't have our separate stuff, sort of thing, my mother will make sort of, bulk of egg mayonnaise, like the other day, I thought, I'll make egg mayonnaise now. [4657] Made two, erm, cooked two eggs, and it lasted me two days, whereas you know, usually if I go downstairs, I don't have to make anything, because all their pre-prepared anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4658] Mm. [4659] Still it ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4660] Like usually the top shelf, is usually our own stuff. [4661] Our own sauces, or whatever, erm, if my mother makes a cake, it goes on to the top shelf, but usually we just use everything. [4662] We've got bread and milk.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4663] Ours is a bit like erm, Tesco's really, so much in it. [4664] [laugh] Honestly, there's such a good su stock in our kitchen, you could live for a week. [4665] 'Cos my mum's got one of these people that always keeps the stock up, she won't let it get really low,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4666] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[4667] she keeps stocking up every day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4668] Yeah, [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4669] But what ha , what
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4670] Aladdin's cave.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4671] Stop scratching your leg.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4672] I'm n I'm just erm, just [...] . [4673] What I find though, erm,becau my, because we got so much stuff coming in for the shop anyway, like the lettuce or the fruit and veg, my parents don , you know, like most people go,yo your mother probably goes, how many, how often does she make a shopping trip?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4674] Probably gets something every day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4675] Well, like, you know, not to be [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4676] My mum, erm, once every two weeks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4677] See, my parents hardly ever go. [4678] My father will go to the cash and carry every week, and perhaps he'll pop into into Tesco's or something and get a few bits and pieces, so we got a lot in the fridge, but it's not a lot of variety.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4679] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4680] So, erm, you know, my mother like, if she, if she needs something, she just asks me just to pop to erm, Gateways. [4681] Occasionally my parents will go to Tesco's and then it's not like, with lots of people probably spend about a hundred pound, even more probably, wouldn't they? [4682] But you know, my parents would pay, probably spend about thirty or something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4683] Wouldn't spend a lot.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4684] And Kerry at home, young girl whom I'm going to see erm, take that with, like you look into her freezer, she's got a big freezer like that, and they've got so much frozen foods, and you look into ours, we've got the one the same size, but it's just basically frozen vegetables, so you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4685] We've got [...] . [4686] Everything's frozen basically in our house. [4687] Well, she does buy vegetables, but she'd rather buy frozen veg, 'cos it's just easy for her, dead easy for her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4688] Yeah, it is easy, yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4689] Probably erm, it's probably nicer 'cos it's it's it's frozen straight away after it's been picked, innit? [4690] So it's probably fresher.
None (KPVPS002)	[4691] Mm, they say that, don't they about frozen veg.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4692] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[4693] They say it gives er flavour more.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4694] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[4695] You know, some people, just don't like buying them, do they? [4696] They don't buy frozen vegetables. [4697] They'd rather cook it fresh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4698] No, they got [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4699] They won't like Kerry's house.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4700] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4701] We got to use them up like [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4702] Yeah?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4703] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4704] Well, there used to be a fridge/freezer at the bottom of the stairs. [4705] But the freezer kept freezing up, and er, we've had it since we left Sussex anyway. [4706] It would be fourteen years old now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4707] Bloody hell.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4708] Coming up for fifteen years old.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4709] Erm, so like they just took all the fridge
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4710] Part,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4711] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4712] [...] the erm, the bar, the like the dining bar [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4713] And er, keep the lemons and things in it, and then, the freezer is just for ... and when there was like a [...] of stuff at Christmas, they put stuff in it from downstairs,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4714] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4715] but [...] freezers anyway. [4716] And erm, we got a big, er huge chest freezer. [4717] Deep freezer, downstairs in the cellar.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4718] Do you stock some, at all for yourself? [4719] Do you ever use any fridge/freezers.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4720] No, [...] fridge/freezer so it's down two flights of stairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4721] Mm. [4722] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4723] I don't know, it's just a pain in the arse. [4724] But we've never really eaten that much frozen food anyway. [4725] Mum's never had that much stuff in the freezer. [4726] When I used to buy stuff from M and S, from the staff shop. [4727] We'd stick it in the freezer that we've got downstairs.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4728] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4729] But you know, we just don't need frozen ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4730] 'Cos, yeah, it's just vegetables we keep because erm, or if my mother makes sort of a lot of curries or things. [4731] Or or tomato sauce for the pasta, she'll freeze it in indiv individual portions, but Kerry at home like, they've got some real frozen meals, and they do do rely heavily on convenience foods, which we don't really. [4732] But you know you were saying that your fridge was fifteen years old, that one. [4733] Well, we got at the back of th the erm, shop there's ... we got this room and it's got this walk-in freezer erm fridge, and
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4734] Walk-in?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4735] Ye yeah it kinda just walk.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4736] It literally clogs around.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4737] [laughing] you just walk in [] and like, it was there and I would have said it was old when we arrived, and we've been there nineteen perhaps twenty years.
None (KPVPS002)	[4738] Bloody hell, and it's still going.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4739] It's huge, it's so big. [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[4740] And do you you use it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4741] Yes, used.
None (KPVPS002)	[4742] And you've still got another five fridges.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4743] We got a big one where erm, sort of, it's really cold, and so we keep erm, the longest dates and everything erm, that we don't need immediately, and then, we got the fridge/freezer, we got the freezer in the stock-room, which is ours, we we just bought it,wh , my parents bought it about three years ago, for ourselves. [4744] Then we got the big fridge in the kitchen for all the foods like we use every day, then we got erm, oh w no, we got six fridges, and then we got the pie fridge, got all the p pies and put the cakes in as well, and we got another deep freeze. [4745] We keep the ice-cream and at the pa the pizzas and the ready meals that we cook.
None (KPVPS002)	[4746] Oh, you got quite a variety of foods.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4747] Yeah, quite a variety, and then we got the drinks machines.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4748] Do you do desserts?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4749] Well, apple tart, but you know, things we bring in, apple tarts erm, custard slices,a the occasional eclair erm, yeah, we do quite a range, actually.
None (KPVPS002)	[4750] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4751] Yes, we got six freezers, one, two, three, four, five, six, you know for, it's not that big ... [...] it's quite a lot, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4752] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4753] Well, we got a lot of storage space, but, because we get deliveries three days, three times a week,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4754] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4755] you know. [4756] Don't we don't hold a lot of stuff for any period of time,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4757] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4758] because it's all just coming in and going straight out again.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4759] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4760] 'Cos,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4761] Like the ice-cream and stuff, I mean, you know, ice-cream a box of ice-cream won't be there more than a week.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4762] 'Cos erm like
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4763] Like their individual portions. [4764] So erm, you know, it's there that, although we've got a lot of storage space,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4765] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4766] The turn-over of food and the selling of food, you know. [4767] I mean,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4768] Things obviously, like herbs and stuff ... Steve only orders once in a blue moon.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4769] Yeah. [4770] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4771] And and like the dry store, erm, with all, it's got like the rice in it, the custard in it, all those sorts of things, I mean, you know, he might order that stuff once a week, rather than having it come in three days a week. [4772] But then, there might be joints of meat and the ice-cream and all the desserts and all the all, I mean, we have had fresh veg, we're not allowed to put peas on the carvery.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4773] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4774] Had to have six fresh veg on the carvery
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4775] Do you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4776] at all times.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4777] That's hard going then, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4778] [...] , that's hard work, you know, you have to prepare all that veg, and [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4779] And so, if
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4780] So if
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4781] So if erm, if they're not used, they've got to be thrown away, they can't be sort of used again the next day, the veg.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4782] Well, most veg you couldn't use couldn't use up, could you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4783] No. [4784] I don't suppose.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4785] I mean, you just have to control it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4786] You don't cook, you don't cook as much as you need, you might have your potatoes prep but you don't cook them if you don't need them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4787] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4788] Erm, you know, if they're sitting there in water and they've been peeled and they're ready to cook, they won't be cooked until they're needed to be cooked, you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4789] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4790] And erm, oh well, you know, they might have cauliflower cheese prepared to to put out, you know, they might. [4791] Say they needed it at eight, they thought they might need it at eight o'clock and then turned out they didn't, because one body else came in the restaurant, then they'd just stick that in the fridge over night, and put it out the next morning.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4792] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4793] But, like if it's been out on the deck, the only things off the deck that they can save, is like Ratatouille, they save that, erm, and like [...] but it's unused [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4794] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4795] nothing else really. [4796] [yawning] everything else has to be thrown out [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4797] 'Cos there's that [...] what were they doing [...] they'd be doing [...] and the bread the bread and milk comes every day and then I think the meat, [...] meat comes once every week, like.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4798] My bread I get from Tesco's.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4799] Do you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4800] [...] I get from the Co-op next door.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4801] Yeah, sometimes Tesco's, sometime. [4802] I used to pay this friend to go like into Tesco's.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4803] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4804] Sometimes James go up or Dennis goes up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4805] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4806] If not they go to the Co-op, but Tesco's bread is cheaper. [4807] Erm, but [...] . [4808] I mean, we, we used to have, like, we'd have [...] meat come twice a week, they're the butchers, and then we'd have [...] coming, maybe, erm, once a week, and then like the dry goods, er, erm, we'd have another day, where erm, you know, you have different things, basically coming every day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4809] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4810] and the milkman would come and everything else, and now it's all central distribution, and erm, [...] meat, you know, do central distribution, for the whole thing, and erm, they, all the companies that used to deliver to us individually, they deliver to the central depot, [...] and they, in turn, distribute it to all the houses,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4811] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4812] and it's a much better system, overall, which is, you know, you don't have to ring up some many different people every week.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4813] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4814] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4815] Ringing up for one order, so it does work out better now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4816] It's really funny, because, we know our ... [shouting] Hello, [...] [] Bet it's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4817] Hi.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4818] She's just walked in [laughing] [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4819] I had a feeling I knew it would be you. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4820] Hi yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4821] There's no one else that walks into our house, without ringing the bell. [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[4822] [laughing] Just goes for it. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4823] How are you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4824] Very well, thank you, how are you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4825] We bought you a drink [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4826] Lovely and sweet [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4827] Bit disappointed in you. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4828] You didn't do very well over the weekend, did you, 'cos I was watching them and they didn't do that well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4829] I know, he didn't really have a good [...] he had a good day in the Mail on Sunday, though.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4830] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4831] [...] oh right. [4832] [laugh] I thought [...] as in ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4833] ... Italy, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4834] Oh my life.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4835] You haven't got your new clothes on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4836] I know I haven't. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4837] You got ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4838] you got them down here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4839] Aye?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4840] Have you got them down here?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4841] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4842] I told her to bring them down ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4843] You haven't even got, you haven't even got your [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4844] No, sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4845] She's got holes in those bloody jean, look at her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4846] I know, sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4847] [laugh] Ar, look at all these apologies
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4848] she's having to make, you wicked things. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4849] I always come round in my jeans.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4850] We always give her a hard time.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4851] They're so mean to me. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4852] What have you lot been up to?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4853] Nothing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4854] Just watching the box ,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4855] And we're just sitting here, talking about food.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4856] Mm. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4857] Just lazing around, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4858] How's work going?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4859] Really fun.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4860] It hasn't been that busy, it's not busy. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4861] Isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4862] It's just not like home, at home. [4863] Like if I worked at home on Saturday night, and I worked at home on a Sunday lunch-time it would be really, really busy all the time, and like there's four areas to cover in [...] and there's only two areas and I think its too [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4864] It's so weird though, cos The Rising Sun, it's not as if it's not central,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4865] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4866] it's on the way to bloody Richmond, you think it would be busy, wouldn't you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4867] That's weird.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4868] Just a small [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4869] On the main road .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[4870] When we were in there, that Bank Holiday Monday, it was really busy, wasn't it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4871] Well.
None (KPVPS002)	[4872] Was it really busy, or was the bar service just crap.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4873] The bar service is crap.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4874] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4875] There's only one person on ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4876] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4877] Erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4878] [...] I mean, there were people in there, though,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4879] No, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4880] you know, I mean, Sunday lunch certainly wasn't any busier than that was.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4881] Mind you, anywhere would be busy on a Bank Holiday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4882] Dead. [4883] [laugh] Well, it's not dead, but like, when there are two of you on, you're not exactly taxed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4884] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4885] Well, when we went to a [...] erm, they phoned, we wen , the woman, we said, ah, with the Rising Sun'll be, do you think the Rising Sun will be full as well, 'cos she phoned for us. [4886] And they phoned up, and they were fully booked until about four o'clock, so ... [...] a Bank Holiday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4887] Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of people in there on on Sunday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4888] There was peo , there was loads of people waiting in the bar, for tables for the restaurant. [4889] But, like, we weren't rushed off our feet, is what I [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4890] [...] no thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4891] People sat at all the tables in the bar, and some tables, there was like two lots of people sat around the same table, sharing a table. [4892] And then you had twenty people, well, over twenty people sat in the window, and they all had bar meals, and they'd all been to do with this run, you know, there's a big run through Twickenham on a Sunday morning, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4893] going on the way to work. [4894] And they'd all been in the run, so they all came in for lunch, and they, you know, it's like twenty bar meals, and then they were coming up to drink, to order drinks, they were doing like ten drinks at a time. [4895] But even that wasn't, you know, it wasn't any effort,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4896] No [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4897] not like at [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4898] [...] oh here he comes. [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4899] And these take it down off the counter and do it like this, and I'm getting more strength in my hands, now, because I'm using them to do more. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4900] Do you think perhap , erm, because it's not so busy, do you think perhaps they've cut back in the restaurant, and that's why you're doing a bit more work ... for the restaurant, you know, doing the floaters and things.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4901] No, no, that's the way these places are run.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4902] Yeah. [4903] Well, I thought perhaps it's because it ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4904] They haven't got the facilities, facilities couldn't be anywhere but where they are, and that's how, erm, Beefeaters do their, set their bars up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4905] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4906] [...] I see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4907] Bar staff with help with the coffees
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4908] But they've got more of a concentration on the restaurant, whereas we haven't, we have a busy time and without a busy [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4909] Yeah, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4910] You know. [4911] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4912] Yours is busy both sides, isn't it really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4913] Whereas this is just one bar, with about five regular customers, [laughing] as far as I can work out. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4914] Is there any night during the week, where you're not, the bar's not particularly busy, you'd say?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4915] Well, I mean, early week, Monday, Tuesday, well, you see, then we have like erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4916] [...] going.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4917] Erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4918] Who's going [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4919] say, like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday we won't be that busy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4920] but Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we have, they'll be darts matches, and they'll be pairs matches, and they'll be ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4921] Oh really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4922] there's women darts, there's mens darts, and they might not all come in till about nine o'clock, but they are only like, two hours [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4923] A very popular pub, yours, isn't it, why do you think that is? [4924] Is it because [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4925] The area, I mean, we back onto a big council estate.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4926] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4927] And then there's another housing estate over the other side of us as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4928] Is there not any pubs [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4929] No. [4930] no. [4931] I don't think so.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4932] Yeah, I mean, the next pubs are right over the side of the hospital,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4933] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4934] all the way along to the Windmill, so, like the area we cover, there's a lot of people, and like, the middle part, it's very nice up there, you might, really attracts middle-class people, that we get out, for middle-class, middle-aged people that could go and sit in there for a drink.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4935] And there's the other bar.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4936] And then the public bar's there, for everyone ... else, sort of thing, and erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4937] you know that that's that but no, not even that, you know, really, erm, I mean, they, the public bars are supposed to be aimed at people of a lower social status.
None (KPVPS002)	[4938] Bad innit when they go round giving these areas for people.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4939] But erm. [4940] But that's just the way they'd rather be. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4941] Yeah, that's true, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4942] probably local, and, I mean the bar the prices for drinks are always cheaper in the bar, as well.
None (KPVPS002)	[4943] Are they really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4944] Always. [4945] Always have been until now, but now they're the same price everywhere.
None (KPVPS002)	[4946] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4947] [...] aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4948] But we're the cheapest pub in Twick Twickenham.
None (KPVPS002)	[4949] Are you really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4950] Are ya.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4951] I don't understand it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4952] Well, I do understand it now, because we've looked through it, but I understand it [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4953] Nor did I [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4954] I haven't even got it. [4955] I was so frustrated with it, I gave up [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4956] [...] timberland.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4957] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4958] Good old timberland.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4959] Alright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [very noisy crackling]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4960] I know, it's amazing that they haven't gone downwards, have they.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4961] How long have you been doing all this?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4962] [...] er, about two years [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4963] Are they really comfy?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4964] Very comfortable, yes. [4965] The bloke that I went to [...] out with.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4966] [...] picnic. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4967] Karl, and I for one decided it was too big for me so I [...] I went round and of course I didn't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4968] How much were they? [4969] About a hundred.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4970] Oh, about a hundred and twenty-five, now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4971] Can you cancel that cheque?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4972] Mm. [4973] I have.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4974] You have, the cheque, [laughing] well done, yes []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4975] Well done. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4976] Well, I suppose to find out his surname, but I haven't found it out, but they said they would stop it anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4977] I mean, again, I don't understand him like, and I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4978] You might know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4979] I don't want to know. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4980] Well done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4981] Oh, that's good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4982] So how much did you get?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4983] A hundred and forty-seven quid. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4984] Was it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4985] Well, it still doesn't give me any money, but it just stops more money going [laughing] out of my account. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4986] At least your overdrafts a bit better. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4987] Did, do they oh, with a [...] card, they don't charge for cancellations of er, cheques, do they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4988] Yes, they bloody well do.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4989] [shouting] They do! []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4990] [shouting] What! []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4991] I thought that was like er ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4992] How much?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4993] I don't honestly ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4994] I didn't know you had to pay if you cancelled a cheque?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4995] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4996] Yeah, real bastards, banks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4997] Yeah, real bastards.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[4998] Anything. [4999] They make their money innit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5000] They charge it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5001] Do you know, the slightest thing that's out of the ordinary, they'll charge you for doing it. [5002] It's like you haven't, if you wanna get money out, but you haven't got your card, it's not your branch, you get charged
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5003] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5004] for taking money out. [5005] I got charged when I did it in Newmarket.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5006] Really? that's disgusting, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5007] Oh yes, it's really bad, I mean, it's your bank.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5008] That's how they make their money, though, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5009] I mean, you know Louise, she erm, was two pounds overdrawn, erm, for about a day, she was sent a letter to say that she'd been charged twenty pounds for the letter,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5010] Yeah, my sister [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5011] and she had a hundred pounds, she put a hundred pounds in to cover the, you know, to put her back into credit. [5012] So she's lost eighty, she's lost twenty pounds out of that hundred pounds though. [5013] So she said she's, you know [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5014] Is this [...] account?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5015] She, yeah, she was overdrawn for for two at, for a day or something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5016] So she's gonna write a really stinking letter, now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5017] Well, who, who does she bank with?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5018] [clears throat] I'm not really sure []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5019] I'm lucky, Nat West don't charge [laughing] when I miles over my overdraft. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5020] Don't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5021] They're quite used to it, I think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5022] Oh, I still have to cancel that cheque, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5023] And that was for the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5024] Yeah, but I really [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5025] Yeah, but I really ought to find out his ... surname.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5026] Well, if they said they'd cancel it anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5027] What's his name?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5028] They said they would, but they said you ought to give us the surname. [5029] Because when they [...] , they know where it's coming from, sort of.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5030] Yeah, but if you've only written one cheque in the past ... whatever.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5031] Don't know how many weeks it is.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5032] Who?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5033] What's his first name?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5034] Will.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5035] Will. [5036] Can you remember what what,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5037] [laughing] no []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5038] Have you written down ... didn't you write it in the in the margin?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5039] I just put rent, you see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5040] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5041] That's what I put.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5042] So there's, there's erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5043] Do you know who I might see, I might see that girl, Michelle who lived [...] 'cos I saw her last Thursday, she was in the classroom next to us.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5044] Does erm, Brian now that you can't clear the cheque?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5045] Well, she said, right, she said, er, he can't cash that cheque because his account's in Ireland, so can you get him out the cash instead. [5046] And I just said, I'm not walking around with a hundred and fifty quids worth of money. [5047] [laugh] Get mugged.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5048] Not even even gonna [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5049] And he didn't say anything more about it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5050] [...] I'm not gonna pay it, [laughing] because I can't afford to. [] [5051] Not going to either, I stayed there one night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5052] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5053] And I gave them loads of money, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5054] When did you write the cheque out, you wrote it ages ago, didn't you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5055] When I was that, first week, the second week, was here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5056] So has it has it gone out of your account? [5057] Or is it [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5058] No, it hasn't gone out, because he hasn't cashed it, you see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5059] He hasn't cashed it yet.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5060] Why did he take so long in cashing it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5061] Because his account's is in Ireland, so he [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5062] Mm. [5063] Funny really, not to cash a cheque [...] [laugh] cheque, you know. [5064] Like because their account, you know, if you write, like if I wrote a cheque out to you today, and you didn't cash it for four weeks
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5065] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5066] in those four weeks, if I don't realize that that cheque hasn't cleared, like I don't even no what cheques are cleared 'cos I haven't got a date written on it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5067] Nor did I.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5068] You think you've got more money than what you have.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5069] [...] yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5070] I'm always like that with Nat West, though. [5071] I never know how much money I've got in there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5072] [laughing] I don't even dare look. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5073] My mum brought be down yesterday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5074] Oh, did she. [5075] That was good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5076] So embarrassing, it was awful.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5077] Was it a nice [...] meal.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5078] Yeah, it was very nice, thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5079] Was she pleased with er, the house [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5080] The room,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5081] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5082] yeah, very pleased.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5083] Oh, that's good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5084] Has she brought much stuff down with you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5085] Well, she brought my telly down, my clock radio and some some more things. [5086] Not that much, but [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5087] Normal things.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5088] You've got to have [...] down here as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5089] [...] mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5090] Our dog bangs, the dog would bang their dog, and
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5091] Ow
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5092] Didn't want to go home, and he took them both for a walk.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5093] Were you glad you came out with us on Wednesday?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5094] Mm. [5095] Apart from the fact they ... at the end.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5096] Did you walk back on your own?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5097] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5098] I thought you walked back with [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5099] [shouting] you said you were walking back with Alan and Marie ... cooee []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5100] No, they didn't go back in the end.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5101] You were hour away from college. [5102] [shouting] Katherine! []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5103] You went home?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5104] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5105] At what time.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5106] No, I didn't, I got the bus part way, 'cos someone gave me some money for the bus.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5107] Oh, Katherine.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5108] That's sad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5109] [laughing] what a nightmare [] Ow, it was fun.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5110] [...] back in ready to steps on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5111] Ar, can't believe it about you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5112] [...] it was fine, I just don't do it, I just sort of standing on [mimicking] I'm not walking, I'm not moving [] [laugh] I can't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5113] Well, you're more likely to get attacked then, you're just standing there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5114] You should have come back. [5115] You should have stayed with us.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5116] Yeah, I was going to, but then I just [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5117] grrr [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5118] The balloon, I can't believe those balloons are still up. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5119] You don't have to change the subject. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5120] Why what's happened?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5121] [laughing] are you changing the subject. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5122] Me?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5123] [laughing] [...] balloons. []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5124] No, but I noticed the balloons when I came in, I thought, they've still got those balloons up. [5125] They've taken the [...] John's quite good, really [...] take the [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5126] Where's whatsername today?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5127] She's upstairs. [5128] [shouting] Ann []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5129] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5130] Nicole.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5131] [...] here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5132] Alright, I'll be down.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5133] She's [...] being studious.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5134] I wish I was being studious. [5135] I did do some of that [...] [running downstairs]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5136] She couldn't see the washing when the lights are out. [5137] Or can't she be bothered, now, or what.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5138] Mm, got to be done. [5139] It means I haven't got tights.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5140] I haven't got any underwear. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5141] Really, why didn't you tell me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5142] I don't know, [...] problem. [5143] So, erm, I'm going to the toilet now, and then we'll drive to college, because we've got so much bloody washing, it's not all going to [...] principle French college, and erm, you [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5144] Have to go home, to get some change.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5145] It's better like that, isn't it? [5146] If we do one twenty each.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5147] Mm. [yawn]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5148] [...] in a minute.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5149] Thing is, I I don't haven't got anything of white. [5150] All I got white is my underwear. [5151] I could put my erm, my dressing gown in, and that's not even a half load. [5152] I mean, I haven't got any light clothes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5153] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5154] It's a bit I've got all two towels.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5155] Mm, got about [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5156] I've got T-shirts, but one's really dirty. [5157] That one we moved house in [...] . [5158] or I like T-shirts.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5159] Yeah, I've got nice T-shirts, it's just that I'm really cold.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5160] [...] it's bloody cold, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5161] Usually I wear T-shirts inside jumpers like, thing is, 'cos I didn't like, my drawers fell down, I don't bother to, bending down to get them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5162] [shouting] Oh, don't tell me more about your bloody [...] I can't be bothered to bend down and get a white T-shirt. [] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5163] I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5164] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5165] I bent down to get my my night-shirt, it's in my drawer with all my jumpers [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5166] But what's [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5167] [...] for me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5168] Thing is, I've got my heater right in front of my wardrobe, and I've to move it so someone'll open my bloody wardrobe.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5169] It's so annoying.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5170] Ah, my thumb it's cold.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5171] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5172] So all these to be done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5173] I've done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5174] You don't want to [...] Friday in.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5175] No, I'm not going to out. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5176] [...] so much for a little work. [5177] How, what, how much have you got to transcribe?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5178] Half sides.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5179] Half sides. [5180] That's gonna be about three minutes, that took about ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5181] Yeah, I know but all this tape's not for me. [5182] It's for the ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5183] Other people?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5184] The study.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5185] Oh, that's what it is.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5186] [...] Yeah. [5187] It's not all for me. [5188] It's the study. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5189] Let's face it, read it all, read it all.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5190] Yeah, [...] anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5191] [...] they've just changed all the [...] if there's any names on there like, [...] they want use it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5192] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5193] after that they just dump them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5194] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5195] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5196] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5197] [...] just stressed out. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5198] Mind you, erm, I haven't been conscious about him at all, even when he was on the first of all.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5199] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5200] I suppose it was because he used to be so, you know,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5201] If you know what it's about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5202] Yeah, well, yeah [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5203] Yeah, but he won't. [5204] If you like him, or he was doing other [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5205] I have been taped before. [5206] My sister's put it on sometimes, and I really sort of oh, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5207] Yeah,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5208] don't do that,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5209] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5210] don't do that. [5211] I'm really sort of stopping my myself from saying things, but [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5212] If people think they hear, [...] , when they think listening to you, then [...] what you're talking about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5213] Mm. [5214] What you're talking about.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5215] I think that's what they want. [5216] They're gonna be looking at you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5217] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5218] You know. [5219] [...] they might have a, they might spend a bit of time [...] topic, but they want, they're just looking at you know ... variations in [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5220] Yeah. [5221] I am more aware, like, you know, people, of what people say.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5222] I am now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5223] And the other day, the other day, erm, you would say, erm, you know that sheet with silence topic, erm, always the right to choose a topic, and turn taking.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5224] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5225] and it was all split up into the different seminar group, we we had to take one aspect. [5226] Each one of us, and and do it, and I had topic turn. [5227] Topic, we had the right to choose topic, and then one girl ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5228] Come in.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5229] one girl, erm, she was saying, she was saying about the turn taking, and the theory is is that people ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5230] Hi.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5231] Hello. [5232] If you're in a big conversation, if you're in a big group. [5233] Hi, Nicole. [5234] You usually look at that person, and when you coming to the end of your your your speel, you sort of look at the one person.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5235] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5236] and she was there, and I thought
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5237] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5238] and like in the extreme theory, in extreme examples, like you you say right it's auto speak [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5239] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5240] like Beckie.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5241] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5242] and I just didn't agree with it and I'm trying to sort of, they say in your subconscious you do sort of look at and the last person erm, will look at you, you get [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5243] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5244] generally speaks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5245] So you're thinking line,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5246] So I've been trying, I've been trying to sort of, I I was arguing saying, I don't think that's true.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5247] What's this then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5248] Language. [5249] I was saying, I don't think it's true at all, but erm, I don't know, I'm trying to figure out whether it's actually true or not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5250] Say [...] replies, that if someone else has got something to say, they'll sa they'll [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5251] Yeah, that's what I was saying, that was was my argument. [5252] I was.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5253] Can I make a cup of tea? [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5254] Yeah, of course you can. [5255] As I was saying, erm, so many people have got different ideas. [5256] Even if you'd been arrest if I put my eyes and rest them on you. [5257] What what if you haven't got anything to say?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5258] Yeah, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5259] But if somebody answered the question and say something else.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5260] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5261] So I suppose you've got to take it with a pinch of salt and it isn't true so some ways, but I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5262] Yeah, I was arguing black and blue, and I was the only one, sort of saying, oh no I don't think that's right. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5263] Oh at least you, you know stuck by what you thought.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5264] [mimicking] stuck by your guns [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5265] 'Cos everyone, she was reading this out, and everyone was going, yeah, yeah and it sounded so stupid and I thought,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5266] Agreeing with it, Yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5267] I don't agree with this, I think this is really. [5268] I mean, I said I didn't agree with it, but everyone said, oh no, it is true. [5269] I made you wrong, and I said, well I still don't agree with it, and I sort of explained exactly what I thought.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5270] Did you get much done, Nicole?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5271] [...] I thought, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5272] Are reading the Alchemist?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5273] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5274] I got into bed, and I was really nice and warm, and I was lying back, I don't really like to lie back when I'm doing something, I like to sit up in bed, I don't generally do work in bed. [5275] If I read I like to sit up, if I start to lie down I was like this.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5276] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5277] So I've had to come down and [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5278] I was in the library. [5279] It started coming freezing
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5280] But there's no room in there, Nicole.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5281] It is nice and warm in there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5282] Yeah, I was sitting in the sun as well, over by the window there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5283] [...] I think the warmer you are, the more lethargic you get.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5284] [...] That's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5285] It so annoying with not understanding every line.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5286] [...] I've just given up now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5287] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5288] Have you bought the book?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5289] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5290] Oh Jules can't come on Thursday, Nicole.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5291] Oh right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5292] Okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5293] No, wait a minute. [5294] She might be going as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5295] I saw her today. [5296] [...] Have a good weekend?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5297] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5298] Does anyone else want a cup of tea?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5299] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5300] Yeah, I had a really nice weekend. [5301] I didn't do any work.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5302] Never do. [5303] Erm, on Saturday, we erm, Rebecca and Claire and I went to see The Seagull.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5304] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5305] At The Orange Tree. [5306] Met Fred. [5307] Fred [...] and then they all came round in the evening, and then on S Sunday, went to church and were invited out for lunch, [...] and I went to see my mummy and daddy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5308] You went to church in college.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5309] No, erm, we go to church ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5310] Oh, it's not, course you're not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5311] Erm, not that I wouldn't, I mean, we just, we just [...] in church, you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5312] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5313] What you been buying?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5314] Well, I bought a cup and saucer the other week, in [...] it's really nice, and ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[5315] You see that that plate there, the green one,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5316] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5317] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[5318] Well I've got a saucer like that, it's sort of like a flower and then it's got a cup to go with it. [5319] It's really nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5320] Is it really big.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5321] Oh, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5322] I was asking where you were, wasn't I?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5323] She said, where's Nicole? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5324] I was worried, I thought you were gonna bunk. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5325] [laughing] Oh, as if . []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5326] No, there was hardly anybody at our English seminar this morning, it was so funny, he had about five of us sitting there, we go,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5327] I'm not surprised ... oh no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5328] right every time I come there's less people.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5329] Hi yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5330] Hi yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5331] Was that this morning, Sue?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5332] [...] yeah, turned up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5333] Quite a few turned up with us, I thought, I mean I thought I wouldn't know anything, but no one else had read the book. [5334] And do you know what, I transcribed some notes for it, me and Miss [...] Sandie or Sandra.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5335] Sandra Breakheart.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5336] She got erm,blon erm, blondish brownish mid=brown hair.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5337] Short, very skinny.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5338] No, no, no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5339] So, did you finish it, or.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5340] No, I mean
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5341] [...] short isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5342] Have you got [...] that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5343] And you were talking about [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5344] Erm, well no, I read too much last night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5345] Hi.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5346] Oh, right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5347] So I knew the gist, I just
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5348] Hi yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5349] Studied the outlines.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5350] No I'm going to do my washing. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5351] Oh, right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5352] I'm going to get mine now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5353] Not quite as exciting.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5354] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5355] Erm, I'm going 'cos I've got to go to see whatsit called?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5356] So, what notes have you got on it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5357] What notes, I've got on it? [5358] Only ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5359] Just ones you've written yourself.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5360] No, I'm doing it for A level. [5361] Well, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5362] [...] A levels or something.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5363] Oh, you lucky thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5364] Yeah, that's what I was thinking. [5365] [...] done it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5366] [...] last night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5367] I had to do Valponi as well, which is one of these other ones.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5368] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5369] I did [...] [noise - background]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5370] [...] as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5371] Oh, it was shit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5372] Right, I'm off.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5373] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5374] erm, I don't know if I'm gonna have a spare ticket, but are you interested in going to the theatre on Thursday if I have.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5375] Thursday night?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5376] Thursday afternoon.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5377] What to see?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5378] Two Gentlemen in Veroni at the Barbican. [5379] Five quid. [5380] Two p.m.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5381] Erm. [5382] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5383] What am I doing Thursday night [...] [doing up zip]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5384] My [...] realise your walking.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5385] Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5386] Near [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5387] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5388] Sorry [...] let you know, I've got to go.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5389] Okay, alright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5390] Got it all in.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5391] Yeah, I'm not quite ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5392] [...] I keep thirty P
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5393] It's just that I've already mentioned to someone else, and if they can't go, then I'll offer it to you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5394] Yeah, then I'll know if I will be able to go.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5395] I'll put your back in [...] anyway.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5396] What is in that [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5397] I'm going .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5398] You all going?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5399] Bye, can you find your way out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5400] I just said that I'm going [...] [noise - background]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5401] I'm driving round, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5402] Oh, right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5403] Can I have a lift?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5404] Yeah, oh, hold on, how many, one sitt
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5405] Yeah, I'll have a lift.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5406] No, there's six of us.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5407] I'll walk.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5408] Oh no [...] get a taxi. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5409] You've got to talk with her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5410] What, now?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5411] You tell us, and pretend you're a teacher.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5412] They're erm, pretending.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5413] Did you do that tape recorder, is that turned off?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5414] Oh my [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5415] I think so.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5416] [...] I won't be able to record us. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5417] [...] Julie?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5418] Coming.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5419] Take that outside.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5420] You're welcome.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5421] [...] recording that, [...] you don't mind, do ya?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5422] What was I talking about?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5423] The English language.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5424] No, I don't think so.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5425] Mm. [5426] [...] all your secrets out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5427] Don't worry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5428] [...] what money have you got, Maggy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5429] I've got a fiver, I don't know when I can change it, but I want to change it, erm. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5430] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5431] Erm, I've actually got two pound coins, and two twenty P.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5432] That'll do.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5433] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5434] Shove it in
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5435] If you can get some twenty P
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5436] Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5437] And I can start it all off, and then [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5438] Soap ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5439] I can, I can put it all in and everything while you [...] then you can go into your lecture.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5440] I don't really care.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[singing]

10 (Tape 130601)

Rebecca (PS586)	[5441] I really wanted a nice granary french stick
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5442] but erm, doesn't have [...] they only had the white ones, so I think I might go to Waitrose, not Waitrose, erm, might get up early tomorrow and go to erm, what's it called, erm, Sainsburys, yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5443] Sainsburys.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5444] Mm, what shall I have, I haven't got any more cakes left. [yawn] [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[5445] What did you have for lunch?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5446] Erm, [...] and Marmite. [5447] [laugh] No. [5448] [...] I had a cake, that's what I had erm, a cake for my pudding. [very loud noise]
None (KPVPS002)	[5449] What at lunchtime?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5450] Yeah, and I sort of felt a bit bloated ever since. [5451] Silly really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5452] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5453] Do you want a muffin and that?
None (KPVPS002)	[5454] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5455] Yeah?
None (KPVPS002)	[5456] Yeah. [laughing] [...] []
Rebecca (PS586)	[5457] You what?
None (KPVPS002)	[5458] I like something [...] as likely it has. [5459] There you go [...] . [5460] The grocery bill was on the side in the house
Rebecca (PS586)	[5461] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5462] and he'd spent fifty quid in Sainsburys.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5463] [shouting] What, you're joking [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5464] [...] do you wanna know how much money my mum spends in Sainsburys at a time?
None (KPVPS002)	[5465] I dread to think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5466] About eighty pounds.
None (KPVPS002)	[5467] But that's for how many of them?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5468] Yeah, there is quite a few I suppose.
None (KPVPS002)	[5469] I mean, is that for five of them, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5470] Yeah, that is true.
None (KPVPS002)	[5471] Five sometimes six.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5472] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5473] This is for two. [5474] [laugh] It's all like
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5475] It's a lot of money.
None (KPVPS002)	[5476] most of it was fresh produce.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5477] Really?
None (KPVPS002)	[5478] They, it's not gonna last, like, they're still b buying more and more of it. [5479] It wasn't like all your basic items, or anything. [5480] Mike doesn't eat meat, so like, it's only like, slice of chicken, slice ham and stuff for Maryanne. [5481] Most of it is fresh fruit and veg.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5482] Really?
None (KPVPS002)	[5483] There was some booze on there as well, but not much, so erm,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5484] Right, a lot of money though, isn't it?
None (KPVPS002)	[5485] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5486] Fifty pounds for two people. [5487] Mind you if he sees [...] . [5488] Did you, what did you want on this, did you want some jam, is that alright?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5489] Strawberry jam?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5490] Have you got any butter
None (KPVPS002)	[5491] Erm, no I haven't, Claire has, nick some of hers.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5492] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5493] I've got some Marmite, and I'm just [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5494] Do you want some jam?
None (KPVPS002)	[5495] Claire's got some Vitalite, I think.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5496] Anything will do. [yawn] [singing]
None (KPVPS002)	[5497] [...] Mike organized it, for me to go over there and then [laugh] I didn't need to be there at all, cos noth nobody turned up.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5498] Ah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5499] So I've er ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5500] I'm sure they're really grateful for you ...
None (KPVPS002)	[5501] I don't think Maryanne even knows I've been there.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5502] You don't think what?
None (KPVPS002)	[5503] Maryanne knows I've been.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5504] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5505] Do you arrange it all, then?
None (KPVPS002)	[5506] I think, yeah, well he rang me, so erm, I think she was expecting, I think they, when they left the house this morning, he was thinking, he'd be able to get home in time for it, and erm, then he got to work and the day wasn't, hadn't worked out the way he expected. [5507] And like, did you hear about that unexploded bomb, in the Second World War, the two thousand pound bomb on the
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5508] News last night.
None (KPVPS002)	[5509] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5510] Do you want tea or coffee, [...] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5511] I'll have a coffee, please.
None (KPVPS002)	[5512] There was two thousand pound, Second World War bomb, they found in Walton, which is right near the River Thames which is, like, past Hampton Court, and Mike said that he'd have to go out there today, and it's er erm, this guy who he works for, owns a Leisure Centre right beside where this bomb is. [5513] So he'll need to go down there with his associates and had to evacuate the Leisure Centre.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5514] Oh, really?
None (KPVPS002)	[5515] They just found this bomb and they were going to have a controlled explosion at the car park [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5516] Oh.
None (KPVPS002)	[5517] So, that made the day a bit more interesting, but he's been stuck with er, all these upper class councillors that telling him what his job is, and [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5518] Don't go down very well.
None (KPVPS002)	[5519] He said, he's not impressed, and er, I think the idea that go [...] [crockery noise] at a meeting today,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5520] Yeah, turn that power off before you do any more to that [laughing] it's silly isn't it [] ?
None (KPVPS002)	[5521] Erm. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5522] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5523] Oh, buggery bollocks ... you take yours anyway, [...] get on [...] [laugh]
None (KPVPS002)	[5524] Erm, so ... [tape stopped and restarted] like all their ideas, on the erm, you know the ideas they were putting
Rebecca (PS586)	[5525] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5526] were that in, in the borough there's lots of like fallen land, like, you know, Esher Common and things like that,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5527] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5528] that they thought they could develop and hav hold events on, and er, he said, like we, we came up with some good ideas, put forward some ideas, really good ideas, for things to do on this land, and he said, the trouble is that all these councillors back on to these pieces of land, and he said, er, they don't want people coming along and enjoying themselves on it, because they want to go and walk their labradors on it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5529] Oh, I see.
None (KPVPS002)	[5530] So it might disturb their neighbourhood, you know, so they weren't very impressed with his ideas.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5531] Ow.
None (KPVPS002)	[5532] So er, he hasn't had a very good day at work, a bit fed up. [5533] But Alfie's coming down tonight, and they're going out.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5534] Does he come down and visit quite a lot?
None (KPVPS002)	[5535] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5536] Does he?
None (KPVPS002)	[5537] He's his partner in crime, as he calls it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5538] Do you think Maryanne's alright about that?
None (KPVPS002)	[5539] Oh yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5540] All friends together as it were.
None (KPVPS002)	[5541] Yeah, no, that's doesn't bother her at all. [5542] I mean, they've been on their own for weeks, so. [5543] You know, at the w they like to spend their weekends with everybody.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5544] Yeah, they don't want to section themselves off, obviously.
None (KPVPS002)	[5545] [...] I mean, Mike was like, you gonna stay down [...] [church bells] [...] and I was, I haven't seen anybody at college all week, so I think I'd better go back, actually. [5546] But erm, I did tell Maryanne if she wanted to go shopping tomorrow, I shall be around. ... [tape switched off and restarted]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS002)	[5547] Oh, God, yeah, I've forgot abo mind you Emily's coming back tomorrow, isn't she?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5548] Possibly. [5549] But she might not be back till Sunday.
None (KPVPS002)	[5550] Oh, I see. [5551] Do wh what do you, personally what do you think she'll do [...] ?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5552] What Em? [5553] Sunday I would have thought.
None (KPVPS002)	[5554] Really, yeah. [5555] I suppose ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[5556] We've still got all day Monday off as well.
None (KPVPS002)	[5557] True. [5558] She ain't got all, to rush back for anything, has she?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5559] No. [singing]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5560] This is nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5561] Nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5562] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5563] They're nice, aren't they? [5564] Now you know why you eat so many of 'em. [5565] I wanted to get the wholemeal ones, bloody out in Tescos. [5566] The only thing, their bread's a bit crap in there.
None (KPVPS002)	[5567] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5568] Never get, you know, as big a selection as I'd like to get ... in there. [5569] But, still beggars can't be choosers, they are cheap, they had loads of offers on them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5570] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5571] Tins of baked beans, fourteen P.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5572] Do, what do they taste like, though?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5573] Well, I should imagine they're just the same as their normal ones, and they've stuck a, a whacking great white label on them, but I mean, you know, perhaps they're of an inferior quality, I don't know. [5574] I haven't tasted them yet. [5575] Julia's had them and she said they were fine. [5576] Erm, well, rice pudding. [5577] Only [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5578] I don't like anything like that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5579] I, I wouldn't buy it, but,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5580] Emily eats it for breakfast.
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5581] With jam on it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5582] Mm. [5583] Why don't you like it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5584] Not that I'd ever tried it, but, that sort of thing, semolina, and all that,
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5585] I hate it, urgh.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5586] Yoghurt, you like yoghurt, though.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5587] Mm, but, urgh.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5588] I got erm, three of those, erm, you know, those diet, sort of, erm, what they called, you know the yoghurts with the two dips bits in it, you know, three of those for ninety nine pence, in Iceland.
None (KPVPS002)	[5589] Oh, that's good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5590] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[5591] Yoghurts are expensive, aren't they?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5592] They are, that's why I got that offer for three big ones. [5593] Actually, they did have six for fifty nine P in Iceland, but the date was up on them like, Sunday, and I thought, I won't get through all the them. [5594] Once they start going off ... it's not really worth having them, so. [5595] Bought me trusted cottage cheese. [5596] Some parsnips, some carrots, cucumber, onion, apples. [5597] Didn't get the [...] plates, I'm gonna get them tomorrow, it's too awkward to carry [...] [laugh] but I generally get nothing exciting. [5598] Just the bare essentials.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5599] I've got masses.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5600] Really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5601] Like, I've got half a pepper, and a piece of cheese and some, some kind of sp spread. [5602] [...] spreads. [5603] Erm, a loaf of bread I'm sharing with Teresa. [5604] Two packets of Cuppa Soup, but I'm not sure that it wasn't Cuppa Soup, cos I've said to Thomas, I'm not [...] at the moment.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5605] Really?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5606] Erm, so cheese on toast, and Cuppa Soup for you, then. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5607] Probably be nothing, actually. [5608] I eat, I went, when I went round to Maryanne and my [...] baked bread next door, I like I went down, I went in there before, before I went upstairs into the flat, and bought a, a roll for twelve P.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5609] Oh, yeah, that was good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5610] Mm. [5611] Soft roll, and then erm, I had a Viennese Whirl with it, and I sat and had that with my can of Diet Coke that dad bought a can of drink on the train this morning and never drank.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5612] Did you have lunch in a park, did you say?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5613] Yeah, we had a piece of quiche,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5614] That was nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5615] and a hot chocolate, [laugh] in this park in London. [5616] It was really nice, we had a good old drive around,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5617] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5618] Hampstead, erm, round Hampstead, round Highgate, had to drive up there, it's so nice.
None (KPVPS002)	[5619] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5620] Lovely shops and everything, and er, it's all like round corners and everything, really, and some of these, dad's sort of, he marked the most that's open on Sundays. [5621] There, there's one street, it just like Gaps and everything, like, you know, it's a really lovely road, you know, and erm, it's just a really lovely area altogether. [5622] He showed me some really nice places, and then we went to this park, I can't remember what the park's called. [5623] We stopped off there, had hot chocolate and a piece of spinach quiche, but I was, and erm, and he treated me, which was quite amazing, and then erm,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5624] That was nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5625] and then erm, we drove, er then we walked through this park, which was lovely, it had squirrels running all round the place and pigeons and everything, it was gorgeous, and, and because it, it'd been such a gorgeous day, it's just that my fucking nose is cold.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5626] It's really bright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5627] So in fact, the sun is really hot, when you're in the car.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5628] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5629] So I, I erm, I had a lovely walk through there, and then we went out the other side of it, and it's Highgate Cemetery.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5630] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5631] And, this cemetery is like, this, erm, George Eliot's buried there, Karl Marx is buried there,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5632] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5633] there's all these famous people that are buried there. [5634] And er we didn't actually go in, but I'd love to go back one day and have a look,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5635] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5636] because like, there there's a picture of the gravestone of Karl Marx outside and it looks really amazing, and some of the places, some of these graves that have, some of the, like tributes, are just enormous.
None (KPVPS002)	[5637] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5638] They're just so big, it's incredible. [5639] You just can't envisage, you know, why and how they managed to afford such extravagant graves, and it's like on two sides of a road, on one side you can only go in, and if you're on a guided tour, erm, otherwise you've got to, be like, somebody to do with the grave.
None (KPVPS002)	[5640] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5641] You know er personally attached to the grave, or go on a guided tour, and er, like you've got to wear certain bits of clothing, you gotta be like, you gotta be properly dressed, er, you're not allowed to eat or drink in there, there's all these things, like, you know, really [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[5642] [...] into that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5643] Yeah?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5644] But it looks fantastic. [5645] It looks, you know, I mean, it's [...] to say that, it sounds really weird, but it [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5646] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5647] [...] so mysterious and strange in there, that it would be really interesting
Rebecca (PS586)	[5648] [...] been in there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5649] to have a look. [5650] He's looked round some parts of it, yeah. [5651] and er, like Christmas, erm, they have these things on the telly when there's about, every, every night there's like a fifteen minutes' programme, just before the close-down, of like, B B C One.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5652] One?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5653] And there's people, like famous people of the telly just sitting and talking erm, and saying prayers every night, and walking around a typical area that means something to them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5654] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5655] And we watched it one night, and it was Mrs Hewitt off Eastenders.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5656] Oh, really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5657] And er, she was really
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5658] [...] by Michael Aspel, weren't she, or Michael Parkinson?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5659] [...] between them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5660] Yeah. [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5661] [...] Aspel tomato.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5662] Erm, and so, we had a good old walk around there, and like this place where she was, I swear it's Highgate Cemetery where she was talking,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5663] Oh, really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5664] and like she was pointing different things out about this cemetery, and, I mean, you know, you there can't be many cemeteries
Rebecca (PS586)	[5665] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5666] like that in, in London and she was in London, but we missed the beginning of it,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5667] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5668] and erm, mum was sorry that Mark had been on about it, she said, oh I bet that's where he goes, and erm, like the park beside it was just lovely,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5669] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5670] the whole thing, really, really nice area, and er, all just minutes away from central London, you know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5671] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5672] It was, it was really good. [5673] Had a really nice three hours. [5674] And er
None (KPVPS002)	[5675] Oh that was nice.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5676] Then he's gone off to Coventry, and then over to Manchester. [5677] So er,
None (KPVPS002)	[5678] It's quite [...] to get on with your bruv .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5679] Yeah, because you know, we're always messing about, or [...] around, or, you know, never like you know, together, really
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5680] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5681] Because even when I go up to his place, like it's always been, like dropping him off, always being in a hurry. [5682] I mean, I sat in his room, had a coffee today, it was like, I actually sat here and relaxed and always being on the move, you know.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5683] Yeah, yeah, always moving around.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5684] I said, you know, I really appreciate it, I mean, the house is gorgeous, but you know, at the end of the day, it's so nice, he's so lucky.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5685] Is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5686] And er, you know the people there. [5687] The lady that he, he works for, [...] sorry, the [...] erm, she's, have I told you she does outside catering?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5688] Yes. [crockery noise]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5689] And she's doing the outside catering for the World Champion, World Chess Championships.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5690] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5691] So, like, Schwartz, and is it Kasparov, whatever they call him?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5692] God knows.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5693] Erm, they were actually eating her food. [5694] She thought she was up feeding the film crew,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5695] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5696] and she was actually feeding the champions,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5697] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5698] and erm,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5699] Blimey, I bet she's making a bit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5700] Yeah. [5701] Been doing it for twenty days now, and erm,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5702] She's what, say it again.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5703] She's been doing it for twenty days.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5704] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5705] And they were all very impressed because she'd done twenty different dinners, in twenty days.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5706] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5707] They were given a different meal every day ... so erm, she was pleased with herself.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5708] Is she married, they got, was there a husband there?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5709] Oh, yeah. [5710] He's a London taxi driver.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5711] Oh, really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5712] Yeah, and they were married twenty five years on Monday.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5713] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5714] So Mark said they were out celebrating after he cam and he's working for them next Saturday, she's doing some kind of a function,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5715] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5716] and er, he's got to do the drinks.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5717] Oh, that's good, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5718] So he gets twenty five pound for the for the night, and he hasn't got to start until about nine o'clock anyway ... [crockery being moved] so erm that's, that's something for him to do, isn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5719] Oh, that's really good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5720] Yep. ... [washing up]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5721] [...] erm, Jay's sister, Tamsin it's her twenty first on Monday, so he was, like, write out her birthday card, right, and he was like, trying to write something funny, so he was constructing this thing, like reading it out to me, and [...] half an hour when I first got there.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5722] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5723] And er, it was very amusing, but repeatable, half the things he wrote in it, and erm, it's very, it was very good, but, he is quite good at that when he sets his mind to it, it usually takes him about three days to do it, but he does like to er, write messages in people's cards. [5724] And er ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[5725] He's a laugh, your brother.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5726] He's a nut-case. [...] up to him [...] seems a [...] it's Mark, I couldn't believe it. [5727] It was like, get on to those bloody phone people, he said, I was on the phone to them for half an hour, yesterday, he said [...] haven't turned up, he said, and I organized m I work around [...] and everything. [5728] He said, and then I got you to come along, he said, and it's all for nothing.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5729] It's always the bloody way, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5730] And I said, well go and pick the phone up [laughing] Oh, yes, we have got a phone, actually [] [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5731] Before you start whacking your breasts.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5732] Mm. [5733] I haven't had a phone all week. [5734] Which it isn't the easiest thing, when you've just moved into a place, is it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5735] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5736] I mean, erm, you know, at least we're all sort of easy walking distance of one another. [5737] Like we council with our daily contacts through college, but
Rebecca (PS586)	[5738] That's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5739] like, you know, everyone's far away from them.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5740] Exactly, they [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[5741] Quite a distance, haven't they? [...] especially for emergencies. [5742] It's worrying,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5743] Mm.
None (KPVPS002)	[5744] isn't it to think that
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5745] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5746] someone can't get hold of you. [5747] Right, okay, [...] my boudoir, I've just seen a few things [...] together.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5748] I should get changed, really, but I'll,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5749] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5750] what I'll do, is I'll ... if I give you my clean shirt, you take it round to yours. [5751] If I want to change, I'll put it, the only thing is, if we do go up the bar, I think I'll be a bit warm, in something like this won't I?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5752] Yeah, that's the trouble isn't it? [5753] But it's so cold out there.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5754] I know, it's a bloody, it's such a pain in the arse, because you freeze ... to death, bloody getting up there, and then when you get in there, it's so bloody hot. [5755] So start with ... what the hell ... which is really quite aggravating really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5756] Sorry?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5757] It's quite aggravating, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5758] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5759] [...] right, she did take that book with her, didn't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5760] Yeah. [5761] Was she supposed to then? ... [tape stopped and restarted]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5762] Right, lipstick, lipstick, lipstick. [5763] [singing] lipstick on your collar [] [laugh] [singing] told a tale on you []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5764] [...] really.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5765] Oops [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5766] You need some more curtain hooks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5767] No, I don't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5768] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5769] Is that how many there were up there?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5770] Yeah .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5771] Or have they nicked some?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5772] They [...] they tended to spread them out a bit, about the house, you know, just willy-nilly, where they were wanted.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5773] They're just normal ones, aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5774] Oh, I expect so.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5775] I know, does look a bit silly, doesn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5776] They shouldn't be [...] like that, we should, like, be able to pull cords and curtains as well gathering them a bit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5777] They are gathered even now.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5778] You probably can do in that, I just haven't mucked around with it. [5779] It just needs somebody to ... have a look at it, but I just can't be bothered.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5780] [...] time, [...] ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[5781] Right, okay. [5782] Right, if I can just give this shirt to you, Annette. [5783] I'll get you a bag for it. [5784] My hairbrush in there as well ... Hmm, sort my life out for me. [5785] What else do I, I don't need anything else, do I? [5786] It's not raining out there, is it raining?
None (KPVPS002)	[5787] It's dry.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5788] Are you sure?
None (KPVPS002)	[5789] Been dry all day.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5790] Okay. [5791] Probably start raining soon, erm

11 (Tape 130602)

Rebecca (PS586)	[5792] Do you want to go and sit in the lounge, Joanna?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5793] Yeah, okay.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[5794] Sorry, er, [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[5795] This is [...] general, got me, got me microphone. [5796] [...] micro [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5797] [shouting] What you done [] ?
None (KPVPS002)	[5798] Wrecking me house. [5799] Wrecking our house, sorry, yeah, I don't mean to exclude you. [5800] So did you ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5801] What is it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5802] Oh what [...] to record our conversation.
None (KPVPS002)	[5803] This is, this is the micro yeah. [5804] This is the whatsit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5805] Oh, no [...] doing that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5806] Oh, don't be stupid,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5807] Some of us have done it before.
None (KPVPS002)	[5808] Erm, it's like nobody turned up. [5809] It's like, hang on a minute, when we had our phone connected, none of us were up here for it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5810] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5811] Well, why, why er, is you know, somebody coming around. [5812] So I said, Mike, is there a fa something wrong with the phone, and he said, no. [5813] I said, well, they're just connecting it then, and he said, yeah. [5814] And I said, or he said, I spent half an hour on the phone, trying to study, he said, she was from Ireland, he said, I couldn't understand a bloody word she was saying.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5815] Oh dear.
None (KPVPS002)	[5816] He was going on and on, and erm, I said, well, I'm sure that if you go and pick it up, it will be working. [5817] [laugh] So he did, and it was working, and he was so, they just connect it from outside,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5818] Oh, I see.
None (KPVPS002)	[5819] [...] from the line box.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5820] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5821] and erm, so er, it was nothing to do with, like coming into the house
Rebecca (PS586)	[5822] Oh, [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[5823] to connect it. [5824] So like, I didn't have to be there for the phone at all. [5825] [...] never turned up so
Rebecca (PS586)	[5826] Oh, that's a bit out of order, they often do that though, don't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5827] Where's your parents been then?
None (KPVPS002)	[5828] Oh, erm, they're in Cyprus, so ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[5829] Oh, really?
None (KPVPS002)	[5830] I pick them up Sunday. [5831] Sunday, it's really tight.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5832] Yeah, Annette was hoping that she wouldn't have to work on Sunday. [5833] [laugh] It makes the day disjointed obviously,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5834] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5835] because she's gonna pick 'em up, but she's got to work like you, slap bang in the middle.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5836] Yeah, mine, mine used to be something like quarter to twelve, didn't it, quarter to twelve till three, and then they decided to change round, it used to be quarter to twelve to six, didn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5837] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5838] Whereas, we used to be open all day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5839] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5840] Got greedy.
None (KPVPS002)	[5841] I'm doing twelve to three.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5842] Mm. [5843] that's alright.
None (KPVPS002)	[5844] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5845] Plus.
None (KPVPS002)	[5846] I wish I was doing more hours, though really, cos like, I got to take the whole day for it,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5847] Yeah
None (KPVPS002)	[5848] I might as well
Rebecca (PS586)	[5849] might as well be there, till later, yeah, I know what you mean.
None (KPVPS002)	[5850] I mean, just for three hours.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5851] Do they give you anything to eat there?
None (KPVPS002)	[5852] No. [5853] [...] they don't seem to give you any, you seem to have as much tea and coffee as you want, or soda water.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5854] Lemonade.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5855] Lemonade.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5856] Or lemonade
Rebecca (PS586)	[5857] Really?
None (KPVPS002)	[5858] It's all on draught so er, they have stocks and that. [5859] But I mean, my dad always invites his staff to have a drink at the end of the evening and I mean, most of them have already been bought a drink during the course of the evening, anyway, so they're entitled to it. [5860] But erm, [...] [laughing] [...] [] . [5861] So er, I think, I think like, it depends who you're working with as well. [5862] Think like, some of them, take [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5863] Yeah.
None (KPVPS002)	[5864] sort of
Rebecca (PS586)	[5865] Yeah, there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5866] What ones can I take then, Rebecca?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5867] Oh, [...] well, let me have a look. [5868] [clears throat] I don't think you'll find anything in that, you can have that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5869] What's it for?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5870] They call it word book, and every week,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5871] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5872] it's a scrapbook, some, some of them went, what do you mean a scrapbook, and he was really offended.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5873] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5874] [shouting] No, not a scrapbook [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5875] A word.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5876] It was, well it is, you, you stick in pieces of articles, into a book, you're collecting them.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5877] Just any articles?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5878] Well, they have to correspond to the lecture, so ... the lecture this week was, world population. [5879] Had to so it. [5880] Like the world,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5881] And business?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5882] the world. [5883] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5884] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5885] And then, you have to get to about three to four articles on that. [5886] I don't know where I'm gonna get them from. [5887] And then ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5888] World in [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5889] It, it gets a bit easier, because they go on to like health, age, I know I'll be able to find loads to stuff on age, won't I? [5890] World population, erm probably what I'm gonna have to do is, although they, they said you can't do it [...] don't get any ideas about doing it with [...] because it's not possible. [5891] It is possible
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5892] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5893] cos if I find that I can't find something, I'll just have to look like [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5894] Keep looking as you're going along
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5895] Yeah, do you know what I mean? [5896] So, that's what [...] is. [5897] And it's just like, and they want you to make some comment on what you've worked out, which is no problem really, is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5898] Do you know that newspaper that they brought out, the European, and it's like, just to, just to
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5899] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5900] take you through the whole of Europe. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5901] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5902] [...] like world issues, then, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5903] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5904] Because ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5905] I know the Telegraph always have a lot of foreign, foreign news.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5906] But that's what, but The Sunday Times has always got a world news section at the back in it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5907] Oh, brilliant.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5908] So there should be something in there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5909] I found something from the AIDS one the new Benetton advert, have you seen that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5910] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5911] Is it really sick?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5912] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5913] Not really, it's a bit rude, I suppose. [5914] It's of erm,photo coloured photograph of, it's either a bloke or a woman, you can't tell, from there to about there, so you can see all the hair and everything it's got [...] on the skin H I V positive.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5915] Oh, I think I have seen it. [5916] Ah, that's terrible. [5917] They're just out to shock, aren't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5918] Yeah, I think it's a good way, and, cos it makes people go, bloody hell.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5919] And then they take note of what the issue is, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5920] [...] realize, don't they, yeah. [5921] So I've got all ready, for me AIDS [...] cos I used to just think oh I don't really, I could just go and get some leaflets on ban on [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5922] True.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5923] Well, I must ad I'll probably end up going down there, and getting the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5924] Our local chemist at home.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5925] Yeah, they've, they've always got this good stand, haven't they? [5926] All this stuff, loads of stuff down there about pregnancy, and measles. [5927] [laugh] Yeah, so they reckoned it's not a scrapbook, but it is really. [5928] That's quite easy really, I'm quite happy doing that. [5929] Quite like that idea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5930] But erm, yeah, it's alright. [5931] I like this girl, cos she's Welsh, just, I can't do her accent, but she kept saying it several times, he was getting really pissed off with her. [5932] He'd obviously taken time over building up this little booklet explaining the stuff. [5933] She just destroyed it in one go.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5934] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5935] Like he, he was like saying, it's got to be a ... the word book, will eventually [...] he was really getting into it and really going into about, you know, how it's really gonna be jam- packed with important information, and she just said, [shouting] so it's just like a scrapbook really [] you know, when if you've filled all that up
Rebecca (PS586)	[5936] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5937] and somebody said that. [5938] It's like, oh yeah, thanks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5939] [mimicking] No, not at all
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5940] And then the next bit, she says it again.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5941] No, yeah, that scrapbook, yeah, that's not got to be in till later, has it? [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5942] [laughing] He was really pissed off [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5943] Oh, you're gonna go down well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5944] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5945] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5946] But yeah, it's alright, it's okay ... but not a lot's going on, really, I haven't been in any activities for ages.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5947] There's quite a few erm, posters up, asking you to go along to join, the netball fiasco
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5948] You're not exactly erm, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5949] No it's changed [...] the er ... they've got quite a few plays going on, they've got chess going on
Rebecca (PS586)	[5950] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5951] with er, what d'ya call it, Barbara ... you know?
Rebecca (PS586)	[5952] Oh, right, the musical.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5953] Have you seen about [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[5954] Er, Barbara Dickson and Elaine Paige.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5955] Yeah, yeah that one. [5956] They've got that one going on.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5957] Have they. [5958] That should be quite good to watch.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5959] And er, and they've they're out doing the [...] Rocky Horror Show as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5960] Surely erm, what's her face, er, Jane [...] was it Jane?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5961] No, she hasn't. [5962] Yeah, I don't know why.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5963] How's she getting on with her drama, do you know?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5964] Yeah, she likes that subject, she not that keen on French, cos she thinks she isn't that advanced.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5965] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5966] It's all completely in French, the whole lesson
Rebecca (PS586)	[5967] Oh, that's a bit worrying, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5968] Everything, once you go in there,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5969] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5970] you speak French and that's it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5971] Oh, that's really worrying, isn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5972] I shouldn't be able to do that, ah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5973] Yeah, so she said it's a bit, cos she only got an E for French, and she's not very good at it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5974] Oh God,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5975] So, she is finding it hard.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5976] Yeah. [5977] I bet she is.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5978] So erm,sh I don't know, she might be alright. [5979] She's not said about me being out of it, but erm, see if you do that, you see, you get a year in France.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5980] Really? [5981] That's like your brother, he's doing Spanish isn't he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5982] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5983] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5984] He's doing Spanish.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5985] Is he? [...] take a year out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5986] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5987] [...] start a new job as well, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5988] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5989] like he doesn't know if he's [...] going on a bit at the moment, he's just wandering about,
Rebecca (PS586)	[5990] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5991] [...] we'll see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5992] But I don't know what she's gonna do. [5993] But erm, I haven't seen much of her at all this week, because erm, they've all been out, I mean, they went up to London to see Miss Saigon, and they were gonna go out for a meal up there, and
Rebecca (PS586)	[5994] Bloody hell, that takes some money, don't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5995] Yeah, but they've got it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5996] Yeah, exactly.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5997] You know, she's got fifty quid coming in every week.
Rebecca (PS586)	[5998] Yeah, that's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[5999] Plus a grant.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6000] Yeah, she's well away.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6001] [...] has she. [6002] She can afford to do that. [6003] So they went up there and did that, and then, I ca they've done quite a lot and then they're going up London tomorrow, I think. [6004] So I don't see much of her.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6005] So you think they'll probably stay up there next weekend?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6006] Don't know. [6007] I'll see, I might, might go out tomorrow instead of Sunday. [6008] I don't know yet, I don't know [...] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[6009] What's happening about your car, is Craig going to take it back with him?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6010] Well, I suppose he might as well, I mean, if you're off work, he might as well have it, mightn't he?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6011] Yeah, that's true. [6012] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6013] Unless I feel like being really vindictive,
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6014] saying, I want the car. [6015] No. [6016] I don't need it. [6017] I could have done with it, I couldn't get on the bloo they got this internal bus service that runs from each college, cos you have to go to the other colleges for your lectures, and I just sort, there's not enough, and you, you get turned away, and I just thought, I went for that bus Tuesday morning, I was supposed to get it at eight fifteen, and he just said sorry, [mimicking] no more room [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6018] Oh no, so what happens then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6019] So, security guard came over, and if you go up to the next stop, [...] bus, you could come in with them. [6020] So we got on that bus, and he didn't like it, this bus driver, [mimicking] oh, you're not supposed to be on here []
Rebecca (PS586)	[6021] What, because you hadn't parked your cars there first?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6022] Yeah, but the thing is, we're not from [...] college, so that means their students are gonna be, like, pushed out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6023] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6024] So anyway, we got on, and he
Rebecca (PS586)	[6025] Well, that's their problem, they should get more bloody buses.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6026] Yeah, yeah, yeah, the thing was, because it left about fifteen minutes later, at a quarter past eight, there was so much difference in traffic,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6027] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6028] half eight, getting on quarter to nine, it was jam-packed and I didn't get into the college. [6029] It's a ten minute bus ride. [6030] I didn't get into that college until gone half nine.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6031] Oh, really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6032] To my lecture. [6033] Yeah, I didn't walk in till half nine. [6034] The lecture starts at nine. [6035] And the bus left at a quarter past eight. [6036] Hour and a quarter. [6037] I could have travelled home.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6038] Yeah. [6039] Bloody hell.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6040] Honestly, it was just sitting there, we were just not moving. [6041] Well, you probably know what it's like, I was just sitting there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6042] Is it, is your parking permit saying what college you're at?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6043] Yeah, I have to. [6044] I'm not allowed to park in their colleges, other colleges. [6045] See what I mean?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6046] Yeah. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6047] So I can't drive there
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6048] [laughing] Said you can't get on the bus either [] . [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6049] No. [6050] That's what I said. [6051] Well, the good thing is, where Southlands is, which is on the south [...] which is a very nice area. [6052] Well, it's not that nice, but there's a hell of a lot of little roads, all around it, it's not a like Roundtree is, is it? [6053] It's just on a little main road, but it's situated almost in this housing estate. [6054] They must say, God they must get pissed off with it, so I've already looked around, and there's loads of parking places,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6055] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6056] there's no yellow lines, there's loads of little roads.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6057] That's true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6058] I mean, I could park it there, if Nicole didn't want to drive. [6059] But the, the bus, the erm ... staggered. [6060] You got a bus at eight fifteen, and you got another bus at one o'clock, and you got another bus at three o'clock, and another bus at six
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6061] You serious?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6062] and, and if you wanna come home, there's supposed to be a bus at half past four, and our lecture finished at quarter to four, so you like, three quarters of an hour to get to the bus, right, and then it didn't turn up. [6063] So we had to wait for the next bus, which was six o'clock.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6064] Oh no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6065] It's a long time. [6066] We were sitting like this, sitting on the pavement, with our umbrellas up [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6067] Imagine what it'd be like, when it's really cold.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6068] And I thought to myself, oh gosh, just drive up there,
Rebecca (PS586)	[6069] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6070] it's only a ten minute drive.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6071] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6072] I picked the right time. [6073] See that's the thing, if I wanna go and do my studying, I can't just go, I have to ... and, and dinner starts at erm, if I've got a lecture, my lecture is sort of one o'clock. [6074] Just before one o'clock and the bus goes at five past one. [6075] So I haven't got time to get any dinner.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6076] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6077] See what I mean?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6078] Well, what about [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6079] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6080] So I have to get a bit, er jump on the bus, and then erm, either get something to eat at their college, but then, by that time, you see, cos dinner starts at quarter to twelve, it's all gone. [6081] And we went there last time, and all they had left was chips and this fatty stew.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6082] Er, that's [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6083] And that's it. [6084] No veggies or nothing, no salad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6085] [mimicking] No veggies []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6086] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6087] Oh dear
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6088] So, it's, alright it's not a major problem, but that's the only difficulty with it is it's not, it's good having the bus service where you don't have to pay, right, if you don't, like I didn't realize the bus went at five past one, and I was all ready to go, and er, it was ten past one, and I thought, oh no, so I had to wait till three o'clock. [6089] Do some work. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6090] That's a bit silly really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6091] Yeah, and then the next bus from six o'clock, is eight o'clock. [6092] And that's the last bus home.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6093] You would have thought these buses would [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6094] It's only a ten minute, it's about a ten minute journey from Digby to Southlands. [6095] Fifteen to Southlands to Whiteland. [6096] It's all round in a circle, it's not like then, I don't know why.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6097] How peculiar.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6098] Yeah, it is a bit of a pain. [6099] But the people who [...] Q T S course, have got a lot of work.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6100] Have they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6101] Mm, much more than me. [6102] I'm glad I'm not doing that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6103] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6104] Loads of assignments have been set already. [6105] They're really quite heavily bogged down, and they were to do them all, er one day at school.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6106] Really, bloody hell.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6107] Yeah the teachers seem to do nothing do they?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6108] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6109] I mean, Ann finished lectures, Ann's finished lectures yesterday, she's a secondary teacher and she doesn't have a lecture again until after Christmas.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6110] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6111] And she's got another two weeks off now, until she goes into schools and then she's in the schools full-time, but even so, she won't have, she didn't have exams. [6112] She had exams last January, didn't she, and she hasn't had exams since last January, she won't have until next ... during June.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6113] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6114] And like, she has, like, although she's doing secondary teaching, she has it easier than anybody.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6115] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6116] At this stage, anyway. [6117] I mean, it'll probably get harder.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6118] I wouldn't mind doing that, if there was, if I could do secondary teaching.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6119] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6120] Mm. [6121] But I wouldn't wanna do primary or junior, just [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6122] Well do, would you be, is it T T S, secondary, T T S, weren't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6123] No, but [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6124] [...] primary
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6125] Well, in T T S
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6126] T T S they can't do secondary. [6127] Only do primary and junior.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6128] Oh, no in, in our college they're doing secondary.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6129] Cos I asked them about it, and they said [...] I'd much rather be doing that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6130] Mm, yeah I would really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6131] Small ones, I just don't think there's much, get much out of it get much, getting much out of it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6132] I mean, some, some people at our [...] section which is four and five year olds.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6133] It's not bad.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6134] It's like being in a play-group, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6135] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6136] It's like taking [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6137] Yeah. [6138] But they don't, they don't do it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [sneeze]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6139] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6140] Have you found out when the [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6141] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6142] When is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6143] February. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6144] You've got to have one before then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6145] That's when you said.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6146] You've got to have one in November. [6147] Surely they did have one last year, didn't they their outing. [6148] Kerry would have had one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6149] Well, I looked at my list and it says [...] February, and I've got a list of my lectures for every week.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6150] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6151] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6152] That sounds odd though, surely. [6153] Does [...] have one?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6154] Next term's a long term as well.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6155] Is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6156] We did agree to meet, but I don't [...] same time tomorrow.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6157] And I asked him I said, what does this reading week mean, and he went, oh, just do what you want, really.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6158] Cos I've got a reading week in three we two weeks, two weeks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6159] I don't know when it is.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6160] I've got a reading week in two weeks. [6161] Yeah, I've got a week off.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6162] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6163] Well, I'll ask Ian, they, they might not have told us, because, I don't know, they would have told us, wouldn't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6164] They should do really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6165] I've got a list of every lecture on my booklet. [6166] They give you a booklet for each subject, and I've got a list, a lec a lecture every week, until February, when it just says reading week.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6167] Oh, perhaps you have got leave. [6168] It does seem odd. [6169] Claire has a lot longer term than us. [6170] I think it's ridiculous, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6171] Mine are twelve week terms.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6172] I think ours is only eleven, that's what we was told.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6173] Mine are twelve.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6174] I thought it was thirteen, was it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6175] Twelve, twelve and twelve.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6176] Could be.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6177] No, it's not, it's not as long as thirteen.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6178] Yours is on eight. [6179] You got an eight week term.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6180] Yeah, we've got an eight week term, the last term's eight weeks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6181] So long to Christmas.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6182] Cos your the last ones [...] aren't you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6183] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6184] What was I saying?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6185] Seems odd, I'm sure he showed me, he showed me a reading week before Christmas.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6186] That's like what I think mine says.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6187] Tight.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6188] I'm sure we should.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6189] Mind you ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6190] I'll ask him, cos he'll know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6191] Perhaps I [...] I should.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6192] Yeah, it is due, I'm sure it's due.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6193] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6194] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6195] Two weeks' time, we've got a week off.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6196] I haven't even looked, cos I don't even, I haven't even thought about it, you know. [6197] Everyone else keeps going on about it, and all like, oh, I can't go home, cos there's not enough [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6198] Last year, reading week was, it seemed for ages, wasn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6199] It did, didn't it, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6200] It seemed weird, it was so, [cough] oh, it's nearly November, I'm getting worried.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6201] That's alright.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6202] It's nearly Christmas.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6203] Oh, that's alright.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6204] Half my year's gonna be gone, and I'm sort of, going for the third year, and it's really heavy. [6205] Oh. [6206] It's going so quick. [6207] But erm ... I'm sure you're right. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6208] Maybe I have done, maybe it's just not printing it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6209] They normally have one a year, they probably just haven't edited up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6210] We had two though, didn't we? [6211] Didn't we have one la in the second year, [laugh] or something, I'm sure we did.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6212] We didn't Rebecca.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6213] Oh, didn't we [laugh] oh, that's what it is, then, you get yours in February.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6214] That's what I'm saying to you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6215] Ah, bit silly though, innit, starting [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6216] I'm sure we had another reading week.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6217] Oh, shit, you're just like me, you are. [6218] I swear blue in the face that I'm right, and then somebody comes on and goes [laugh] oh yeah. [6219] Well, put it this way, if it isn't on Sunday,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6220] it's a bit of a long time, because I come back January the fourteenth, fourteenth, and I've had all Christmas off, haven't I? [6221] So I'm gonna be back, like a week, you think they'd make it a bit more ... so I've done most of [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6222] No, I know what I'm thinking of, I'm, if ever, I'm thinking of revision week, cos that was a week, we [...] wasn't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6223] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6224] And then we had another revision week in June. [6225] See [...] , there's two revision weeks, and a reading week.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6226] Yeah, and [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6227] And then what?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6228] Of all the things that the transport division [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6229] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6230] Really, I think they should give us reading week.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6231] I don't know.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6232] Well, only because I don't get one, they give you a weekend.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6233] Still, can't complain.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6234] No, shouldn't have done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6235] Suppose to be a reading week. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6236] I know, I know, I'm gonna be in it. [6237] I've got so much bloody reading to do. [6238] I've got loads [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6239] Has Miss gone [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6240] She's coming back either tonight or,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6241] She gone home already. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6242] She's gone home, yeah. [6243] She went home last night.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6244] She's not gonna be back here very long, then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6245] No, well she wants to go [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6246] Oh, I see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6247] [...] all right, so she came back. [6248] She wants me to go to the theatre though, I don't think she'll enjoy Chekhov very much.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6249] Don't you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6250] No, I'm not sure I will.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6251] I'm only going cos I got to.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6252] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6253] Yeah, she's coming back tomorrow.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6254] She's either coming back tomorrow morning or tonight.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6255] Aren't you going to the pictures tonight?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6256] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6257] Thought you was.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6258] Too expensive. [6259] I've spent too much money already so
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6260] Did you get my message, then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6261] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6262] It's about an asylum.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6263] He's a really nice chap. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6264] Is it her [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6265] He was very young. [6266] He was right along the end without a sink.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6267] Ah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6268] Yes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6269] [laughing] without a sink, he's got the only room without a sink []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6270] He, he said, I said is Joanne in, and he went, oh, I don't think she is, actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6271] And I went, there's a message here for her, if Rebecca phones, I went, yes, I'm Rebecca, oh, right, okay. [6272] You leave a message like, and it's like, erm, I'll pop over and see you, [laugh] and I was like, I mean, he just paused for breath, and I went, well, what time, and he went, well hang on, the message hasn't finished yet. [6273] [laugh] So I went sorry, sorry, and he went, it's alright, and he went in, oh, thanks for that, thanks very much. [6274] He went, okay, then. [6275] He said, I'll give her the message, I tell her that everything's fine. [6276] I said, yeah, tell her that I got the message, and that you know, it's all fine. [6277] Okay then, right, see you later. [6278] Bye. [6279] I spoke to him last night as well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6280] I mean, when I think I was [...] with my bags and things and he went, [shouting] Jo, the message has gone through, everything's fine [] I went, [laugh] [...] your sister, I relayed that little message which I thought was [...] which I thought was rather comical, you see, and I said, oh did you, and he said yeah. [6281] He said, everything's okay, she's got measles.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6282] He's a nice bloke.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6283] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6284] He seems like fluid poems.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6285] Her and Kate will come and see me at four o'clock [laugh] and her and Kate will come and visit you. [6286] They will not be coming to the cinema, and I was like, what time are they gonna come, and he was like, hang on, I haven't finished yet. [6287] [...] four o'clock, and he was like read it and he ... [laugh] oh, [...] only fed ten P in and I got all the information that I needed to know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6288] Yeah, I've written it all out in block.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6289] Mm.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6290] He was only seventeen, wasn't he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6291] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6292] Is he really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6293] Yeah, I think he was bored with this.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6294] How can you go to our [...] while you're only seventeen. [6295] That's illegal isn't it? [6296] To be eighteen.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6297] He's just turned eighteen.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6298] Yeah, exactly, with like me, late birthday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6299] Well, very late, September.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6300] Yeah, he can, I mean look at Shane, he's got a
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6301] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6302] very early birthday.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6303] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6304] I'm getting bored with him.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6305] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6306] But
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6307] So he is a year on, behind you Rebecca, you get what I mean. [6308] cos I know you've got a late birthday, and that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6309] He be, he be, they be, he'll be in the year below me, but his birthday will be like, [...] mine.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6310] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6311] I see.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6312] Has your dad gone back home?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6313] No, digs [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6314] How's your mum cope with that. [6315] Is she alright?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6316] He's only gone back for [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6317] Yeah, that's not long.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6318] Oh, God.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6319] He's going to me erm, yeah, well, actually he wasn't really that drunk, was he, on Saturday,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6320] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6321] Saturday night?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6322] But he was talking to me, and he said, he said ah how, how you getting on over there, and he went yeah, yeah, it's alright, you know, but it's not where I want to be, you know, away from me family. [6323] I like being in with my family. [6324] He said I like being in with me boys. [6325] He said, and it's really good, he said, cos I'm, I'm celebrating my fortieth birthday, he said, and I ring my boys, he said, and they listen to the same sort of music I do. [6326] [laugh] He said, whereas my mum over there in the corner, he said, if she had a bash I had to listen to bloody Frank Sinatra, wouldn't I? [6327] [laugh] And I'd go, yeah. [6328] It's like yeah. [6329] He said, yeah, I like being home with the family. [6330] He said, but I'm only going back out there another [...] he said, so it won't be too long. [6331] I said, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6332] [...] it's not.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6333] Fancy Jane going and having a bust-up down the [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6334] I'm not surprised, Christ. [6335] She's relaying all marital problems, to everyone, wouldn't she. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6336] They're alike though, ain't they?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6337] Did you see her when she
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6338] Busting out of her dress.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6339] Erm, your, I think it was Dwayne or was it, it's either Dwayne, or erm, er Bob knocked a glass over, and er, [laugh] Jane was like erm, trying to like, she was like going Edward move away, I'm trying to sh I'm trying, look, I'm trying to stop people dancing round here, and like, these, all this, this er, glass on the floor, right, Jane was standing there going like this, dancing round all this glass, and like she was going like this, and everyone that walked past, she was going, [shouting] broken glass [] [laugh] and she was saying, and [laughing] she was, she kept on going broken glass, they done it. [6340] And she's still dancing, it's really funny [] . [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6341] She's [...] ain't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6342] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6343] She started crying one [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6344] Yeah, I know she did, I saw her. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6345] Shouldn't keep smoking and fighting in the middle of the front room. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6346] She was crying in the pub.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6347] Talking about how much she hated [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6348] The bloke [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6349] He's so drunk, he don't [...] . [6350] [mimicking] She goes, [...] piss off [] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[6351] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6352] So they had another big fight down there, didn't they?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6353] Oh dear.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6354] Yeah, I went in the kitchen, and [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6355] She was pretty upset, though, weren't she?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6356] Well, she upsets herself.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6357] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6358] She's a bit like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6359] Bit [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6360] [...] ain't she? [6361] Someone walked past her, and spilt all the drink down her front, that didn't go down very well. [6362] [laugh] Trip. [6363] Bloody hell, I try and get bloody dressed up, should be looking, stupid sod, drunk, got drink all down me.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6364] I think Dwayne, just, he was, just wasn't, wasn't that interested. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6365] Can't blame him. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6366] He was just, oh, it was funny.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6367] [...] he deliberately, I was standing next to him, [...] he was just leaning on me.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6368] That's Dwayne.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6369] Just leaning on me.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6370] You know that ... [tape side a ends] [...] they all disgust me, and er, John went yeah, that's the sort of woman I like. [6371] Comes carrying a load of [...] in her hand. [6372] [laugh] It was like, shut up. [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6373] He's a real prat, ain't he?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6374] I was sitting there going, [laughing] ha ha ha [] got a [...] stuck. [6375] I tell [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6376] Oh, Lord.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6377] That's a pint glass gone. [6378] Naked woman on it. [6379] Ain't it, it's like out of a porno mag. [6380] It is bad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6381] I don't know how he got that on there.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6382] The
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6383] It's not painted.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6384] But when, when when the colour glass is full, she's got clothes on.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6385] Oh, really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6386] Never.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6387] Yeah, when he drinks his pints, he knows [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6388] I didn't see that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6389] Good, ain't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6390] Really?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6391] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6392] It's like them pens you get at the seaside.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6393] Where do you get that then? [6394] Oh you think he bought the glass like it.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6395] Yeah, it's, it's just the same as that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6396] Do you think he bought the glass like it?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6397] No, I don't think [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6398] Yeah, but how could Jim do that?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6399] It's just a stick-on thing.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6400] Oh. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6401] I knew [...] before.
Anne (PS6RW)	[mumbling] [...] []
Rebecca (PS586)	[6402] Mm. [6403] I think that's good, that is.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6404] Good laugh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6405] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6406] So you, what are you going to do tonight, then? [6407] Go up the bar?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6408] Yeah. [6409] I think there's a ...
Anne (PS6RW)	[6410] I ain't been to the bar [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6411] Weren't you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6412] Oh, although [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6413] Haven't you?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6414] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6415] Ah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6416] Really erm, food. [6417] It's something like ... it's called. [6418] It's not Have a Shave. [6419] [laughing] I know it's not called Have a Shave [] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[6420] Oh, I saw a poster like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6421] Shaggy ...
Rebecca (PS586)	[6422] Shag something, in our place. [6423] It was a yellow poster and it had shaggy all on it. [6424] But mind you, I didn't know what this shag society was about. [6425] [laugh] There was Annie going, [...] and our president was standing there going, aye aye, you seen this, Tom, have you seen this? [6426] She like, pointing to this big shag poster, and I thought, Oh God. [6427] [laugh] What's going on here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6428] No, I think it's, it's a dis it's a disco, and it's got some kind of title, the shaggy party, or something. [6429] I don't know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6430] [mimicking] shaggy []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6431] I haven't seen it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6432] I haven't seen it. [6433] The other one was called, erm, flip your wig.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6434] Oh, I saw that. [6435] Frank said that was really funny.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6436] Yeah. [giggle]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6437] Seventeen Afro person.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6438] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6439] Yeah. [6440] Erm, so I think we're going to that crap.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6441] I don't care really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6442] Right on.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6443] The drink's, the drink's cheap, ain't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6444] Well, it's not ... It's right I suppose.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6445] It's not really cheap is it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6446] It's not at our place, though, is it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6447] Isn't it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6448] Not really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6449] [...] else's is more, more subsidized than our, though.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6450] Yeah, ours is bad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6451] But it's still cheaper than a pub.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6452] Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6453] So we'll have ... a couple of drinks and that's it for tonight.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6454] Mhm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6455] Jane said that last week, cos I thought it was a disco, cos when it first described it me, it was real crap, and there was this colour guy and his friend, and all they wanted to play was [...] black, they looked like they got no bones when they were dancing. [6456] You know like, dislocated themselves. [6457] It's really
Rebecca (PS586)	[6458] Really, oh no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6459] And in fact, all they played all night. [6460] The funny thing was, I find this really amusing, the bloke who was running the disco, he was putting loads of records on, then going dancing. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6461] Really, excellent.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6462] How was he doing that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6463] Yeah, he really did, and the record would end, and then he'd plonk back. [6464] So they were just playing the music that they liked. [6465] It was only those two dancing all night. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6466] Oh, what.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6467] That's what made it so obvious, because it was, he would put the records on, and then come out and start dancing, and I thought I'm not going that [...] No, they played that,sh what's it, shake, shake, shake the room, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6468] [...] bought that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6469] Oh, she didn't, oh remember the other day, [...] Take That.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6470] I didn't ask.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6471] Oh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6472] I didn't even [...] supposed [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6473] Would it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6474] She said, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6475] [...] ought to see [...] lounge, she's got Take That disco, and Take That [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6476] Oh, Jesus, she's driving us up the wall.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6477] She's trying to go out and get tickets to see 'em.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6478] Is she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6479] She's got tickets. [6480] That's the trouble, but we got a note through the door this morning from our friend Kerry. [6481] Don't buy the Take That tickets. [6482] I'll explain later, [laughing] and she's [...] last night [] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[6483] Oh no.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6484] I think it's really funny, cos it's thirty quid she's spent on two tickets, and she's telling us, she's got no money. [6485] She's spent fifteen quid on her tickets for the concert.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6486] Oh, shit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6487] She's bought the C D of them, this week, and I'm just like, oh my God.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6488] Does she really like them, then?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6489] Well.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6490] I think she's somebody that just like, has to go with the flow, with what her friends are doing, and all her friends back home are really seriously into them.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6491] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6492] I just think what a load of rubbish.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6493] How old is she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6494] [laughing] She's twenty [] . [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6495] Blimey.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6496] Yeah, but I thought Take That was for twelve year olds.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6497] Well, it is, innit.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6498] Yeah, likes a bit of Take That.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6499] She don't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6500] She does, that's the kind of thing she likes, Fred, innit?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6501] Ah, she's sad, ain't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6502] Oh yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6503] I bet Kerry likes them, don't she?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6504] She is a sad person, anyway.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6505] That's true. [6506] Too true.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6507] Does Kerry like Take That any more, or has she gone off them?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6508] I don't know really. [6509] Trouble is [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6510] You don't communicate any more, do you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6511] No, she's a bit odd, Kerry, listening to the Rolling Stones and U B Forty. [6512] Bit out her ... [...] ain't she?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6513] Especially at the volume she listens to it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6514] I know.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6515] Listens phworgh.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6516] Really loud?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6517] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6518] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6519] Really loud.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6520] Really loud. [6521] Much louder than anybody else. [6522] You have to go and knock on her door, cos she can't hear you shouting. [6523] [shouting] Is it loud [] ? [6524] Yeah.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6525] She's got to, to, I mean, she could have it that loud at ten o'clock at night, she just doesn't, she doesn't think.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6526] She doesn't realize that everyone else is in bed ... asleep. [6527] And, and the telly on as well, cos every night I come ... everything going.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6528] Including the hairdryer, just [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6529] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6530] She didn't look very happy at your party [...] did she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6531] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6532] Great big coat on, must have been sweating her eyeballs out.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6533] I kept telling her to take it off [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6534] She said it was new, so
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6535] But she said, I can't be bothered. [6536] [laugh] She's this massive big coat on, and I said to her,sh I said, she said, I said you alright, Kerry
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6537] She's too much [...] yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6538] [...] big ain't it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6539] Makes her look even [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6540] It's really massive [...] innit. [6541] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6542] Lisa had one of them for a little while.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6543] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6544] I hated it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6545] [...] coats.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6546] It's what they go for, I suppose.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6547] Yeah. [6548] I suppose so.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6549] It's all the fashion, innit?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6550] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6551] Rather be spivvy. [laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6552] [...] on the back of his [...] it's just so sad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6553] [...] cut as well, innit?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6554] I know.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6555] My brother, oh, it's sad.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6556] My brother's got this mate at school, called Victor. [6557] He's got a pair of shearing scissors and he's been doing like, this boy's African, so he's got, you know, Afro hair, which you can do curly-wurly signs on the back of him, it looks pretty neat. [6558] [laugh] But Ryan decided that he'd have his head shaved at the back of his head, so he got this boy to write his name on. [6559] It shows you how thick this boy is, he wrote on his name, he spelt it [spelling] R I E N [] . [6560] Rien. [6561] [laugh] and this is really sad, and he told me mum that he'd been to a hairdressers and done it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6562] Oh, did he?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6563] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6564] How did you know it was his friend done it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6565] Cos of Nat cos Natalie, she's a right little squealer, she is. [6566] I don't, Natalie's Samantha's sister. [6567] Erm, she, she at school with Ryan,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6568] I don't suppose the hairdresser [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6569] in the same year. [6570] Well, my brother had a smack, cos Natalie tells her what Ryan's been up cos she's a bit like that, erm, likes to sort of erm, squeal, you know. [6571] [laugh] She said, have you seen Ryan's hair. [6572] I said, yeah, and she went ah, she went, Victor did that. [6573] I went [shouting] what [] ? [6574] I went, is this this well hard bloke from Brixton, cos Ryan keeps going on about it, like we I said, is he do, I said, oh, we went to Oxford Street today, and he went, is that anywhere near Brixton? [6575] I went [laugh] I don't think so, Ryan, and he went, ah, cos I wanna go up there, it's well hard up there. [6576] I thought, why he's saying that, and then I looked, and Victor comes through now, and he went, yeah, I wan he goes, I wanna go up London and get some clothes, get some really stylish stuff up London, I was like, yeah, Ryan. [6577] I said, you only get a bigger selection, that's about it. [6578] He said, no you don't. [6579] Victor says. [6580] And I thought like ah, and then mum sa I told mum, and she went you bastard, he told me that he gone and went to the hairdressers and done that. [6581] She went, right I'll get him, and I went, oh don't mum, I said, don't embarrass him. [6582] Do you know what she said, she went, what, I'm gonna bloody see that Victor. [6583] I went, [shouting] no you're not [] I said, don't do that, it's not nice, mum. [6584] I said, you wouldn't like it. [6585] She went, oh, she went oh I won't, I'll just wind him up. [6586] [laugh] [laughing] And Ryan came in [] and she went oh, she went, I just learned who did er, your er little bit of hairstyling there Ryan. [6587] She went, he's pretty good with a pair clippers, ain't he, old Victor. [6588] Well, I went [laughing] ha ha ha [] [laugh] and she went, yes, I have heard, and he went, yeah, well, well, well, I mean, he just didn't how to spell my name. [6589] [laugh] And she went, you wait,mu my mum went [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6590] She gobbled him up with it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6591] Yeah. [6592] [laugh] My mum went, you wait till I see Victor, she said, I'm gonna bloody have him. [6593] Right, see ya, what are you gonna do after
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6594] Erm, bye-bye
Rebecca (PS586)	[6595] you've finished?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6596] I don't know. [6597] I don't know.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6598] Well, we w [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6599] What time do you finish?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6600] Well, we finish at nine, but er, might go up to the bar.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6601] Well, I tell you what, if you walk over to Annette's. [6602] If, if you want to go to the bar, walk over to Annette's after you've finished, because we probably won't go up until about nine, half nine, would we, and then we'll go up with ya.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6603] Well, we'll wait until you come round, and then decide what to do.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6604] [...] okay, [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6605] Yeah, that's a good idea.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6606] And then you know, if you've coming back, I'll drop you back home.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6607] Thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6608] Rather than walk back on your own.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6609] [...] thank you.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6610] Have fun.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6611] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6612] Bye.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6613] See ya.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6614] Bye.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6615] See you later.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6616] Oh no, she's got to walk round with him. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6617] The thing is, you can't really, you couldn't sort of see this jagged mess.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6618] He's made a right mess of it. [6619] He shaved up the back, hasn't he? [6620] It's odd and even.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6621] Yeah, but, yeah
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6622] And you get this, this bit here [laugh]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6623] he's all shaved, his hair come back over it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6624] See like, long hair here, so it's hanging down, scraggily, [laugh] so you've got like a shaved head, with all these bits here ain't ya? [6625] So it covers it up a little bit, but it looks like he's gone bald.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6626] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6627] Because he's like, long bits of hair, like this thick, hanging over, a shaved head, [laugh] and you know, you know Tina, you know Tina Turner, you know her husband kept on going like this all the time ... yeah ... mine does that all the time [...] yeah, I go oh pack it in. [6628] Like Peter, you know, he does all this, like he keeps going, oh show it to me, I can't I'm trying to grow it. [6629] [laugh] I'm trying it down, like, so it's round here. [6630] Do you think it'd be good like that, and I went, yes Ryan it'd look much better. [6631] Cos he keeps growing his hair, to sort of there, and then he has it cut off, don't he, he's shaved. [6632] Cos he has to have it undercut, cos that's hard. [...]
Anne (PS6RW)	[6633] He's full of being hard, isn't he, Ryan?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6634] He is, ain't he, just full of it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6635] Oh [...] I've got something, erm, Peter's in prison,
Rebecca (PS586)	[6636] Oh no, really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6637] Three years.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6638] You're joking.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6639] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6640] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6641] I ... when I went, you know when I went down, do you remember I told you that I got caught up with him?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6642] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6643] And like I went down for that one Monday.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6644] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6645] And erm, I knew he was going to prison. [6646] It was for something that happened about five or six years ago. [6647] He was in a fight with these erm, squatters.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6648] Really? [6649] And it's taken all this time to come round.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6650] Yeah, yeah, and now it's come round
Rebecca (PS586)	[6651] Three years.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6652] Three years ... er ... three years, five years if he misbehaves, and Clayton, [...] you say, eighteen.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6653] Yeah [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6654] Two years if he's good.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6655] Bloody hell. [6656] I mean, he's been into court but not for that long.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6657] It's more of a shock, because, yeah, I know, because nobody knew. [6658] We thought he would just get like a, a community service [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6659] [...] from Lee.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6660] I don't know. [6661] I didn't know from Lee. [6662] Jim phoned me up and told me, he was like upset.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6663] Oh, shit. [6664] [...] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6665] [...] it's sad though, because [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6666] What has his mates done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6667] We're collecting loads of things for him to keep him occupied. [6668] Like drawing books and that, and pencils, [cough] you buy him trains and stuff.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6669] What a waste of time, cos he'll only sell them for things he [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6670] Yeah, course he will.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6671] It's like, it's ge you know, he's really upset about it, but I'm just thinking [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6672] Be different if you can do that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6673] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6674] Yeah, he's really upset, I feel sorry for him, cos he's been upset about it, but
Rebecca (PS586)	[6675] Oh dear.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6676] That his brother lied to him, [...] like that [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6677] Yeah, but he don't know that, does he?
Anne (PS6RW)	[6678] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6679] He thinks his, you know, he thinks his ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6680] I wonder how Julia's bearing up, even though it's all broken up.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6681] Yeah, he does, he thinks it's another [...] just that he has a little drink now and then. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6682] Now and then.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6683] Just a few, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6684] Just a few, just a tipple.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6685] Oh, dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6686] Mm, so.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6687] Better not let Ryan find out.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6688] No, why's that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6689] You know what he's like.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6690] Big mouth?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6691] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6692] He'd be [...] on about it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6693] He won't find out, will he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6694] No, I know. [6695] But it's just Ryan really, anybody that's in any shit, Ryan really aspires to.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6696] Oh yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6697] Like cos he was asking me about Shane [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6698] Was Shane good at school? [6699] Did he, did he used to be naughty and [...] I was like, I don't Ryan, and you got, I bet he did. [6700] You know, anybody, and like, he sees, if he sees erm, who else does he [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6701] [...] relief fund. [6702] There's a poster up in erm, and these two people that are drug addicts, and said like, [...] [laugh] did you see that [...] [laughing] I'd drawn a pair of ears on one of them, turned around and seen Shane and he's like his mate was the other one, weren't it? [6703] Ryan loved that [] . [6704] Have you seen that poster. [6705] [laugh] Holy Communion. [6706] [laugh] Poor boy. [6707] [laugh] Don't tell him blue eyes [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6708] [laugh] Oh dear.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6709] I know that's not funny, but, it is funny. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6710] [laughing] It is [...] []
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6711] Ryan just revels in anybody who's been naughty, he think he really is spite which I think is a bit frightening in a child, really.
Anne (PS6RW)	[6712] It is because he'll be [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6713] Yeah
Anne (PS6RW)	[6714] Looks to [...] just led into [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6715] Yeah, he is, he's very easily led, Ryan, you know, and he's very into, you know, getting on with the gang. [6716] Which is really sad. [6717] But erm, he's a little shit. [6718] Called me, he's called me a college crappy, he goes why don't you go back, he goes, why don't you go back to college, you college crappy. [6719] He went, you're just a drop-out, you're just sponging off the government. [6720] I was like, shut up, Ryan. [6721] [laugh] He's like, I know your sort.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6722] [...] fourteen.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6723] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6724] But the sad thing is, he's got he's got quite a bit of brain, ain't he, to come out, you know, little things like, although they're rude, he's obviously aware, but he's wasting it all, ain't he?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6725] I know.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6726] Quite intelligent.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6727] It's like, what was he, he was going, oh that's right, [laughing] he keeps going, I can't, but they're cold now [] but he was like, at the dinner table once, right, and Ryan and Gran argue continuously, and he was going erm, and he went, Gran, and Gran went, yeah, and he went, do you know what you are, and Gran went no, and he went, well, I can't remember what it's called, he goes, they're this, I think it's a hybrid, he goes, you're a hybrid. [6728] He goes, do you know what one of them is, he goes, it's just sort of like evolutionary thing between the ape and man, and he goes, it's sort of part way between, and it's sort of like some sort of creature, and it's half like an ape and half like a human, and he goes, and you're one of them [laugh] he goes, you're one of them Gran, he goes, you've got a brain like one of them, as well, and Gran just like went ... oh shut up Ryan. [6729] She doesn't really know what to say. [6730] Oh, shut up Ryan, and then he sits there for a bit, [laugh] and she goes, yeah well, you used to wear national health spectacles. [6731] Ha ha ha [laugh] and Ryan goes, oh shut up Gran. [6732] But he's like, when they think they can get any little thing they can think of to wind each other up. [6733] It was so amusing. [6734] But it just go Ryan is, you know, he's a bright boy.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6735] Yeah, I know, it's sad ain't it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6736] But like,Mi Miss said to me, when I went up there, she said, ah I know, she said, you hear a lot of bad stuff about Ryan, she said, but he's a nice, he's a nice little boy really, and she said, he's very polite, he's very polite, he can be very polite to you. [6737] She said, and a lot of the time, she said, he's a, he's a little sod, she said, but you know, she said, I mean, it's not all bad things about him, and I said, I've been hearing things about you from Miss , and she [...] oh, what she's been bloody saying, I bet she's been saying I'm crap at English. [6738] Yeah well [...] . [6739] I said, actually Ryan, she had some good bloody things to say about ya. [6740] He sort of went, ha ha, and shut up. [6741] Oh he's a little sod. [6742] He's, he's funny but it's not, cos if Ryan's, he's not going to get anywhere, because he's just a little shit, basically.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6743] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6744] Do with him?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6745] [laugh] Yeah, he is funny.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6746] Like, what if I opened the door, right, he didn't know I was coming home, he went, he looked at me and went, what are you doing here, I went, oh thanks Ryan, and he went, no, no I didn't mean it like that, I was just a bit surprised to see you like. [6747] I thought, yeah, yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6748] I mean, he's all, I mean he walked in the door, he was, I'm coming down the garden, and erm, he walked down the garden and he'd seen me, and he started really smiling.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6749] Ah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6750] [...] you alright, and Ryan was giving it, [...] Janna, what's he [...] the Janna, the Janna,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6751] The Janna's here. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6752] The Janna's here. [6753] My Janna. [6754] My Janna's here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6755] I was here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6756] Take your shoes off, wouldn't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6757] Try and get your shoes off.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6758] Take 'em.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6759] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6760] She said, let your friend sit here. [6761] [laugh] [...] she said, he is your friend. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6762] Yeah, but she, she calls him, it's you're her daughter. [6763] Yet everybody else you who you are, and Kate is my daughter. [6764] Mum says it's not your daughter. [6765] [laugh] You know, I think if we confused her one day,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6766] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6767] we kept asking her, [...] if like she said, if you said to her, where does Joanna live. [6768] Joanna lives in her house. [6769] Joanna lives with my Aunty Jill, I said, you know,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6770] Yeah, but she's got a bit of a problem with that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6771] Because there's so many.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6772] She keeps on about all the time, every time I'm there. [6773] Where you going now. [6774] Whose house are you going to. [6775] It's almost like I'm a refugee [laugh] I felt right [...] I'm like, you know, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6776] When you go home now, to which house? [6777] Where are you going.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6778] We were walk walking to erm the, down the high street and a plane went over, and erm, I think mum must have been saying to her about Aunty Jill being on holiday, and she went, ah, there's Aunty Jill in the plane going to the city. [6779] It was really funny. [6780] [laugh] I said, where did she get that from, my mum went oh I don't know. [6781] She went, yeah, my Aunty Jill's gone to the city, she's gone to a city. [6782] And then she said to me, and then, when I was going, she went to me, would you like to come on holiday, I went, then she went, because of me and mum and dad, we went another day to holiday, we went to beach, and er, mum said, that, yeah, mum said that she was saying, erm, to her, why, why is it not, what was it she said, about the weather, mum was moaning saying it was cold, and she went why, why aren't we go on holiday, mum, and mum said we can't, we can't afford to go on holiday, and she ah, why don't we go to seaside when it's cold. [6783] Mum says cos it costs lots of pennies, she went ah, another day, we'll go another day. [6784] It's really funny.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6785] She's got no concept of time.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6786] No, she hasn't [...] age, because she thinks she's ... she's been a big girl, and she's now a little girl.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6787] That's right, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6788] She thinks she's ... er, when I was like you, when I was a big girl,
Rebecca (PS586)	[6789] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6790] I did things like that.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6791] Yeah. [6792] Whereas not I will do things like that when I get older.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6793] Yeah, she thinks that she's been big already
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6794] Yeah, when I was, er she says when I was as big as Rebecca or when I was a big Joanna, it's always the name.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6795] What did she say she did [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6796] Just like, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6797] [...] got something on, or you got something.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6798] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6799] Yeah. [6800] I had one of them
Rebecca (PS586)	[6801] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6802] when I was a big girl.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6803] Yeah. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6804] I had some [...] like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6805] Like, like little lies, sort of, you know, she sort of pretends, that's her pretend role.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6806] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6807] Well, yeah, I suppose it, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6808] Yeah she, she does that, don't she?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6809] She's got this erm, dinosaur, that she like, tied a, a la a bootlace round, this luminous bootlace round it. [6810] She dragged it, drags it around, and it's called, erm, little frog, what is it called? [6811] Little froglet dog, little my little froglet dog, that's it. [6812] Froglet doggie, it's called or something. [6813] I think that's what it's called, something really funny. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6814] and she calls it my froglet doggie. [6815] And you say, who's this, she's says, my, this is my little froglet baby big doggie, or something like that. [6816] [laugh] She puts it in, and you ask her all questions about, she tells you it about it, and it has to be, and it only drinks orange squash, cos that's wh what only Marie only drinks.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6817] Marie only drinks orange squash. [6818] [laugh] She goes, it only drinks orange squash. [6819] What's it have to drink? [6820] Orange squash.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6821] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6822] And likes your light on when it goes to bed.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6823] She does.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6824] If you go out and switch her light off and leave her in the room. [6825] [mimicking] Come back and put my light on [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6826] Really?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6827] [mimicking] I don't like it in the dark [] . [6828] You can, if you go up there. [6829] you've done it, she's had to get out and put it on herself. [6830] [laugh] You put my light off, I don't like that, you put my off. [6831] My mummy doesn't like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6832] [...] that, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6833] [mimicking] I tell my mummy of you. [6834] Mummy [] Bit of a squealer.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6835] Yeah, I suppose she has to be with Ryan [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6836] Ryan tried to push her down, and get her to fall downstairs the other day.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6837] No. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6838] [...] step one forward more, edging her away, telling her to balance on them. [6839] [laugh] [...] not very nice is it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6840] They're little shits like that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6841] Ah, but then there's quite a big gap though, really.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6842] Oh, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6843] It's hardly surprising. [6844] I mean, Mark used to pick on me rotten, and he was only four years older than me.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6845] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6846] So, like Ryan's, what, nearly ten, ten years older than her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6847] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6848] Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6849] Well, Ryan's not ... [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6850] He just gets stressed out with her.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6851] He does, he does.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6852] [...] niggles now and then.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6853] Yeah, she, she.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6854] Like I've him at, watched him a few times, she goes, [shouting] get off [] he says, [shouting] what []
Rebecca (PS586)	[6855] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6856] he's old enough to carry it off, [laugh] but me mum says to her, now ... erm, she says like what, what do you do Marie, if he's annoying you, and she goes like that [...] she goes [...] Ryan's [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6857] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6858] He's like, [shouting] no I don't [] she's like [...] [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6859] Leave her alone.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6860] Do you want to go and get something to eat, then. [6861] I know you're all hungry.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6862] Yeah, I've got to go out in half an hour, actually.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6863] Have you?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6864] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6865] What shall we do?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6866] Got to go and sell some tickets.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6867] [...] ah, it was alright, er, it was a bit, David did a good performance, erm, and there was this boy in the first year, and he was apparently been turned down by Lambda Do you know who Lambda are, I don't even know who they are.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6868] [...] was it RADA?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6869] No, it's not RADA. [6870] It's Lambda [...] I think it's like RADA. [6871] And he's meant to be really hip shit, shit hot good. [6872] But erm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6873] Well, if he was turned down by RADA he can't be that good, so
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6874] Erm, he acts like he think he is. [laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6875] I don't know whether he was turned down by them, or he turned them down, or something, I don't know. [6876] He's meant to be really good. [6877] And he was a little, he was like,try really trying to prove himself as an actor, I don't know, bit over the top,
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6878] Oh God.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6879] and I thought to myself, Oh God.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6880] Yes, yeah, he's that sort.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6881] But that's not so bad. [6882] The good thing about it was, [cough] it was only on for about an hour. [6883] Excuse me. [6884] An hour and a quarter.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6885] Was it?
Rebecca (PS586)	[6886] Yeah, which was good.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6887] Ah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6888] So erm, that was quite good. [6889] Because it didn't last very long. [6890] But it was after [...] so it wasn't really ...
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6891] Yeah, too taxing.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6892] No, it wasn't too taxing on the old brain.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6893] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6894] So no, no, it was alright. [6895] Erm, got back here about quarter past nine, which was great, cos it meant I could watch One Foot in the Grave. [6896] And [...] that
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6897] [...] that one really annoyed me last night, that did.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6898] Did it?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6899] I can't stand it, I felt sorry for him. [6900] I end up feeling sorry [laughing] for him every time I watch it []
Rebecca (PS586)	[6901] Yeah, I do. [6902] Do you watch that Clive?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6903] No, I don't [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[6904] Oh, it is good. [6905] What about Absolutely Fabulous. [6906] Did you see that?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6907] Yeah. [...]

12 (Tape 130701)

None (KPVPS003)	[6908] And do your exams on the first of our work ... in June.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6909] Bells!
None (KPVPS003)	[6910] Usually write about, the best thing, now if you call the register erm ... here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6911] In the classroom?
None (KPVPS003)	[6912] Classroom.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[6913] Actually it's behind Liz.
None (KPVPS000)	[6914] Yeah, it's here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6915] Yeah me.
None (KPVPS003)	[6916] Okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6917] Cairan [...]
None (KPVPS003)	[6918] So, but ... we've gotta find it out.
Rebecca (PS586)	[6919] Why? [laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[6920] So erm
Rebecca (PS586)	[6921] It's intact.
None (KPVPS003)	[6922] Okay. [6923] ... Further announcement is that ... due to popular demand there are four extra tickets ... for the Winter's Tale. [6924] So, if you didn't get your act together last week ... and you want to go to the matinee performance of Winter's Tale on the third of November [...] . [6925] Erm
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[6926] [...] [keeps shuffling microphone around] the tickets were so they want tickets but they haven't actually sent any money, so if you get in before them ... erm, you can have the tickets. [6927] Especially whoever pays their money first. [6928] It's five pounds ... Thursday the third of November, a matinee performance of A Winter's Tale. [6929] There's ... er already about twenty people going. [6930] Erm ... I have ... the other [...] . [6931] Erm ... if you want to come along to [...] ... it's a black comedy. [6932] Ya.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6933] Mhm.
None (KPVPS003)	[6934] Cairan?
None (KPVPS000)	[6935] Yes?
None (KPVPS003)	[6936] Difficult aren't they?
None (KPVPS000)	[6937] Aha.
None (KPVPS003)	[6938] That's why I'm gonna say now ... why? [6939] What makes reading Johnson ... so difficult?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS000)	[6940] [clears throat] ... The language.
None (KPVPS003)	[6941] Okay. [6942] ... I don't know what, we can just talk about the language
Inga (PS6RY)	[clears throat]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6943] You have to look up every second word. [laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[6944] Okay. [6945] Well I guess, look at every second word. [6946] What ... what bothers you?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6947] It's just, it's just so erm specialized.
None (KPVPS003)	[6948] Right. [6949] Okay.
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[6950] Cos it's specialized. [6951] And by that, you mean?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6952] Well just ... well if, because it's all ... a lot of it's to do with this alca alchemical
None (KPVPS003)	[6953] Okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6954] alchemal ... whatever it's called.
None (KPVPS003)	[6955] Specialized.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6956] The process.
None (KPVPS003)	[6957] Mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6958] Which I'd know nothing about, er but just ... highly specialized in itself.
None (KPVPS003)	[6959] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6960] And every, every word that I ... stumbled on
None (KPVPS003)	[6961] Mm mm.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6962] and when I looked it up it had about six other words to go with it.
None (KPVPS003)	[6963] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6964] D'ya know what I mean? [6965] And, and obviously it was ridiculous, every second word I was having to look up and then I'd get all that and it moves onto the next one.
None (KPVPS003)	[6966] Yep.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6967] Which is ridiculous.
None (KPVPS003)	[6968] Anybody had
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[6969] this experience?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[6970] Erm ... okay, the first word was erm ... it talked about alchemy. [6971] Any other problems with the language? [6972] Either ... other areas where it's very specialized and you had to look up words, or other difficulties with the
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6973] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[6974] language?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6975] It's not everyday English.
None (KPVPS003)	[6976] It's not everyday English. [6977] What at the moment, at th right, so a lot of, erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[6978] Yeah. [6979] Ah but that is a good distinction. [6980] [laugh] ... Stereo. [6981] Erm ... ahead ... in the sense that
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6982] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[6983] we're used to a lot of Shakespeare's archaisms because he was studying them at A level and Shakespeare's got so a special sort of band of them that he uses. [6984] Even so, I ... they can go and look up that lot of words in Shakespeare. [6985] But Johnson ... they're often old words ... that are totally out of use ... erm ... and ... we're not even used to Johnson's vocabulary because
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[6986] it's not taught in schools. [6987] At least not part ... the mainstream part of our culture. [6988] Any other reasons for the language difficulty? [6989] Or that the speech is difficult or the, any, any reason that there's a, a page that's difficult to read?
Inga (PS6RY)	[6990] Er, it strikes me with the, with the comedy, he's trying to be so funny that he shoots off at all these angles and not having
None (KPVPS003)	[6991] Aha.
Inga (PS6RY)	[6992] left, sort of boundaries.
None (KPVPS003)	[6993] Okay. [6994] So ... erm ... well, you might like to say that
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[6995] Mm mm mm mm.
None (KPVPS003)	[6996] he's very ... fast ... er, deduced ... comedy. [6997] There's a lot going on ... at a very fast speed. [6998] Which makes
Ann (PS5AF)	[6999] Well I thought it was quite farce like.
None (KPVPS003)	[7000] Sorry?
Ann (PS5AF)	[7001] I've seen the play and I thought it was quite like a farce. [7002] You know
None (KPVPS003)	[7003] Yeah.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7004] like
None (KPVPS003)	[7005] Okay. [7006] But
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7007] this is rather what ... what it, makes it difficult is that ... I had a copy as well farce ... right, but don't say farcical. [7008] That's got different meanings. [7009] Er, like farce ... okay? [7010] As in this. [7011] ... Any other things that made it ... made it difficult for you to read? [7012] ... So it's only the language? [7013] The language, if it had been translated in modern language there'd be no, no problem? [7014] Were there are any reasons?
None (KPVPS002)	[7015] It's supposed to be a play, I suppose you have to watch it. [7016] When we were reading it I found that I was just reading it as a book and the ... and that all the coming about you forget who's in, who's there and who's not there.
None (KPVPS003)	[7017] Yeah. [7018] ... Right? [7019] Yeah. [7020] More, again, much more by the shape of it, an intensely visual dramatic play, that relies on you being able to see
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7021] spatially ... in terms of space ... on the ... stage. [7022] People knocking on doors, people hiding behind things, people coming on in costume. [7023] You know, on the page you can't work out ... why erm, [...] is suddenly called ... erm ... nuns, somebody called the Captain, you know, you, you, you think these are three different characters. [7024] On the stage you wouldn't make that mistake, you'd be able to keep track of the identity. [7025] So, another reason ... that just adds that ... is the element of disguise. [7026] In Shakespeare ... you know, you haven't got that many disguises going on. [7027] And, you'd be able to get one laugh, that's the idea. [7028] It's a modern gag idea that ... you know, Violet dressed as man or ... but in, Johnson ... ha there have numerous ... kinds of disguises, each
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7029] Mm.
None (KPVPS003)	[7030] to different effect. [7031] Each calling different people. [7032] Okay? [7033] Right. [7034] We've got some idea as to why, why we found it difficult to read. [7035] Which also help us understand the kind of comedy altogether, erm ... that [...] . [7036] Let's see if we can refine those ... like us looking at the first two lines ... of the play. [7037] ... Erm
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7038] [cough] ... okay. [7039] We'll read them through and pause for a while and try to think of the, also in terms of the physical, you know, erm ... staging. [7040] Erm ... okay, who's gonna be Face? [7041] I'll have ... Jo as Face ... I'll have Monica as ... Sottle, and we'll have ... Mia as Don. [7042] Okay? [7043] Just the first
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7044] Mhm.
None (KPVPS003)	[7045] ten or twenty lines. [7046] Right, off you go.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7047] [reading play] At least I will. [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7048] [reading] How are your wits? [7049] Why don't you run for us?
None (KPVPS001)	[7050] [reading] Oh don't be ridiculous!
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7051] What to do, a little bit of pantomime.
None (KPVPS001)	[7052] Ro rode out of the woods tonight.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7053] No don't keep suffering [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7054] Forever while she breathes I'll go and see ... and fetch some water, will you come?
None (KPVPS001)	[7055] Will you have the [...] ? [...] betrayal. [7056] Hark! [7057] I hear somebody.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7058] Yeah. [7059] I shall mar all of that he has made and foraged.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7060] This way! [7061] This way!
None (KPVPS001)	[7062] Why? [7063] Who am I then my love? [7064] Who am I?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7065] I'll tell you, since you know about yourself.
None (KPVPS001)	[7066] Did you know [...] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7067] Yes she belongs to time not long past. [7068] The good honest [...] that kept your master's worship house when he requires [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7069] Will you please go out?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7070] Since [...] translated so that I'll be the Captain.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7071] By your needs such as those [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7072] With the amount of my money all this must [...] [] .
None (KPVPS001)	[7073] [...] [] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7074] Okay, we'll sto stop there. [7075] Now ... even in that had a fairly dry reading through.
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7076] Are there any things you want to add to that list, just looking at that? [7077] Di different language and er, and what's going on.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7078] Yeah. [7079] In [...] I think ... the people were speaking faster.
None (KPVPS003)	[...] [...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7080] Alright.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7081] You, looking through it and almost laughing at the [...] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7082] Right. [7083] I think that ... almost [...] , we've got another ... aspect of ... erm ... [writing on board] comedy, comedy ... it's really on the basis of arguments, fighting ... complication between people. [7084] Which, as you quite rightly say ... you really need to hear, hear the voices going on. [7085] [...] ... and I'll get some people
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7086] along the middle in a moment and, and do it. [7087] Any, any other things? [7088] Did anybody snigger on anything
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7089] No.
None (KPVPS003)	[7090] in those thirty lines? [7091] Come on, there are rude words in there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7092] I mean
Inga (PS6RY)	[7093] I grinned at farts.
None (KPVPS003)	[7094] Good!
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7095] Okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7096] Brunt, and a bit of a [...] at the moment. [7097] Erm
Inga (PS6RY)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7098] I mean Shakespeare did not, correct me if I'm wrong, use words like fart and, certainly doesn't use words like fuel gauge, have a leg over things like that, and things like, okay? [7099] So it's rude language. [7100] Which is funny. [7101] I mean, we are all er very sympathetic at the end of the twentieth century, but, you know, we can still laugh when somebody says fart on stage. [7102] Erm ... there are other examples of that. [7103] You'll be glad to know that ... in line four and five, [reading play] What to do? [7104] Lick figs out of my [] ... he's actually saying lick piles ... from my ... and, you know the audience replies ... fig ... fig [...] . [7105] And the actor could, you know, draw attention the part of the anatomy he's talking about. [7106] I mean, this is not
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7107] this is not his sense of humour but it is visual, it involves the audience. [7108] Like, if you break off a line like, lick figs out of my ... something, you're getting the audience going because the audience is supplying the ... rude bits. [7109] Okay? [7110] ... Any other ... things that were a problem about that clip? [7111] ... Okay. [7112] Forget that funniness. [7113] Why is it different from Shakespeare? [7114] What's the difference between that opening scene ... and say the opening scene ... in Twelfth Night or Winter's Tale? [7115] Were they di different?
None (KPVPS002)	[7116] There's no asides ... view.
None (KPVPS003)	[7117] Right. [7118] That's another problem actually I hadn't thought of that. [7119] It's all ... but everybody's ... erm ... everybody's involved from the word go, so ... and the structure the ... so think about that point. [7120] No, are no asides. [7121] Erm ... I suppose there are later on in the play er th ... characters speak to each other and say very good that stupid berk over there kind of aside, but ... what you don't get is ... any structures of characters ... as such. [7122] You never get told what different characters are like ... in th er by somebody else. [7123] You don't get introduced to characters, you don't plunge ... straight in. [7124] Er ... yeah, I have thought of ... a very different one. [7125] I mean they don't, er, in the middle of things.
None (KPVPS002)	[7126] You're not really given any background either.
None (KPVPS003)	[7127] Yeah. [7128] So
None (KPVPS002)	[7129] Shakespeare always usually gives you a bit of ... you know, you just got the two gentleman speaking clear and [...] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7130] Yeah. [7131] Exactly. [7132] And we accept those things. [7133] You know, give us a chance to get into the play and get comfortable on our feet and we'll have a go, well, Johnson doesn't give you that option does he? [7134] It's straight in there ... there's a fight between three, two men and a woman, you don't know what's going on, they're just abusing each other and ... and the picture
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7135] is there. [7136] Now Johnson it brilliant for doing abuse. [7137] There's this ... wonderful put down. [7138] I'll have [...] please. [7139] [...] . Erm ... okay. [7140] So in a very different world to that of Shakespearean comedy, a must harsher abrasive ... world ... erm ... again th ... that bit where she's ge get [...] , do I get the impression that most of you found yours much more difficult to get into
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7141] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7142] than Shakespeare?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7143] Yeah.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7144] Mm mm.
None (KPVPS003)	[7145] Yeah? [7146] Does anybody ... have this ... [...] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7147] Er, mm
Inga (PS6RY)	[7148] Erm, I found it was like reading Shakespeare when I first started reading Shakespeare.
None (KPVPS000)	[7149] Yeah.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7150] Cos it's ... I think, different types.
None (KPVPS000)	[7151] Yeah.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7152] You get used to Shakespeare.
None (KPVPS003)	[7153] Yeah.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7154] It's, it's, you get used to the way he works.
None (KPVPS003)	[7155] Okay, I think, I think that is, that is a point. [7156] Again, that came up this morning as well. [7157] That
Inga (PS6RY)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7158] Shakespeare's so central to our heritage i you learn him at O level, you learn him at A level, you get used to him. [7159] Erm ... he's part of our language ... and, and therefore, you know, to go on to Johnson it's very different. [7160] Like you say, it takes much more time to get into it. [7161] But I think Johnson does make it harder for us. [7162] There are no characters to get involved with ... as the there are in ... in Shakespeare. [7163] We can't really imagine ourselves ... you don't really have sympathy for any of the characters in the [...] . [7164] They're all ... fairly sort of silly characters. [7165] Whereas in, in Twelfth Night or whatever, we might actually feel involved within the, the people in the play. [7166] Certainly [...] . [7167] Okay, well I'll leave all those up there. [7168] Erm ... can you look at scene, act four, scene five in my edition. [7169] Now I discovered this morning there is actually act four scene three in some people's editions. [7170] Okay? [7171] Erm, so act fi act four, scene five. [7172] And the stage direction at the beginning of this, enter Doll in her bitter talking with Sir Epicure Manhom. [7173] ... Has everybody got that scene? [7174] Enter Doll in bitter talking with Sir Epicure Manhom. [7175] Okay. [7176] Can you divide yourself up into groups of four first of all please? [7177] I'll do it for you if you, you want? [7178] And leave a bit of space. [7179] Right. [7180] For those who aren't totally sort of in control of the plot ... and I probably should include myself as one of them, what's happening in this scene I want you to act out. [7181] What's happening in this scene? [7182] Doll ... is a prostitute, okay?
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7183] First things first. [7184] Who is working with ... Sottle ... who's planning to be the alchemist, okay? [7185] So he's probably fiddled a lot of things ... to get money from people. [7186] The alchemist is getting money, I'm sorry, for people who know this ... inside out, but I'll just explain it. [7187] Erm ... the alchemist is conning people promising them that he'll turn base metals into gold. [7188] One of the people he's conning is Sir Epicure Manhom ... who wants a life of ease and luxury and has been giving ... the alchemist loads of money in order to tu to, to perfect this [...] and ... funny enough the alchemist hasn't managed, hasn't managed to do this, to get the person's money. [7189] Okay. [7190] So that's who Epicure Manhom is. [7191] One day, when he is, somewhere back in act two, one day he is visiting the alchemist he catches sight of this woman, Doll, quite obviously a prostitute, probably an a an absolutely ... erm ... catches sight of her and says, I must quickly think up some reason why this woman is, is in the house ... cos ... Sir Epicure Manhom thinks the alchemist is a pure, homely ... er priest-like creature yet in fact, he's running a whorehouse. [7192] Okay? [7193] So,has ... [laughing] it's worse than Neighbours [] . [7194] Erm, think ... erm ... so he's sort of bluffing, okay? [7195] I'll just find a scene where he does this. [7196] Er er ... in act two, scene three ... okay? [7197] Er erm ... quite a long way, there's that, that line ... erm ... two twenty. [7198] ... Okay? [7199] Face had just realized that Sir Epicure Manhom has ... erm ... seen Doll, which he shouldn't have done, and ... Manhom calls Face out and says stay Lungs. [7200] That's what Face is called at the moment. [7201] [reading play] I dare not Sir. [7202] Say man what is she [] ? [7203] Now Face is bluffing here. [7204] [reading] A Lord's sister sir. [7205] [...] , pray thee stay [] . [7206] And he sort of bluffs a bit more. [7207] [reading] She's mad sir [] . [7208] Still trying to explain why a Lord's sister is staying with the alchemist, okay? [7209] [reading] She's mad sir. [7210] Send hither, he'll be mad too. [7211] I warrant thee, why send hither? [7212] Sir, to be cured [] . [7213] You know, he's, he's thinking on his feet. [7214] He's trying to find reasons for this, this woman to be in the house. [7215] Meanwhile Sottle off stage is more, is calling why rascal? [7216] And Face [reading] low you hear sir [] ? [7217] He's going out to spend some [...] . [7218] Okay. [7219] Manhom believes that, believes what basically? [7220] They look, er round that line, two three five ... two three six ... and Face is saying [reading] you're very right sir. [7221] She is a very rare scholar []
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7222] describing Doll Collan here, a whore who is seen wandering around the stage most of the time, [reading] she is the most rare scholar and has gone mad with studying Brampton's works. [7223] And here but name a word such in a Hebrew she falls in her fit and will discourse her learned genealogies as you would run mad too to ... to hear her sir [] . [7224] Now, so, Face is trying to sort of put off Sir Epicure Manhom by saying, you know, this a mad woman who's done too much learning ... nice little attack on women here by Johnson, who, who ... is one of the biggest misogynists in the world, erm ... a woman who's gone crazy with learning ... and who knows nothing because er she's just a prostitute and therefore she's thick. [7225] Okay? [7226] That's the joke. [7227] But th again, the funny thing is, even funnier, is that ... Manhom lusts after her, gets distracted from this idea of getting all this money and sa saying, [reading] how am I going to have conference with her, Lungs [] ? [7228] Erm ... and Face said, [reading] Oh! [7229] [...] For a mad woman [...] ... acceptance of her [] . [7230] Okay? [7231] So, Face promises to get an introduction ... to this woman who Manhom fancies and erm ... and Manhom, okay. [7232] That is the background. [7233] Next time we see them ... they, they have met and ... and Face sends them off to have a private conference. [7234] Okay? [7235] So you now have act four, scene five. [7236] Enter Doll and th they're talking. [7237] Will you please try and act it out like we did the Twelfth Night ... the bit with Mrs , and see whether you can revive your idea of why ... Johnson, what is the nature of, of Johnson's comic art. [7238] Okay. [7239] But hear guffaws ... within minutes.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7240] Right.
None (KPVPS003)	[7241] Do you want me to divide you up? [7242] Are you, [laugh] ... do you want ... class [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7243] You ne need four in a group. [7244] There's gonna be one over so somebody be the walking around peasant. [7245] I don't mind [...] right now.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [classroom chatter]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7246] Just move my mike.
None (KPVPS003)	[7247] I think one of you lot's gonna have to go over and join these three over here.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7248] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7249] Yeah. [7250] Go on. [7251] You brave soul Chris.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7252] Oh, do it now?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7253] Oh!
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [classroom chatter]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7254] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7255] Well I haven't actually done it so I don't know what's going on.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7256] I've only read up to the bit where he's standing near the hooker.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7257] Right. [7258] So what's the job?
None (KPVPS000)	[7259] So how much have it, have we got to read? [7260] The whole of the thing? [7261] It isn't that long.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7262] It's about act two, scene three really.
None (KPVPS000)	[7263] I've put in act four, scene five.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7264] [...] . [7265] Oh yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7266] The bit where Doll and Manhom comes in. [7267] ... The bit after Alexandra [...] .
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7268] Okay I'll be ... Doll.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7269] Yes. [7270] Okay. [7271] I'll possibly [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7272] Ah. [7273] Mr Manhom.
None (KPVPS000)	[7274] I'll be Doll.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7275] Alright, I'll be Manhom as well.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7276] But after Alexandra
Rebecca (PS586)	[7277] Sorry?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7278] can we do ... are we doing act four, scene five?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7279] Er ... that'll be act five.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7280] [laugh] ... You're the clever one.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[reading play] [...] [] [...] [classroom chatter]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7281] I only see it as that ... I don't understand her bit, I think she's just out to take the piss. [7282] I do I'm, you know, I'm learning enough, [...] Ancient Greek. [7283] Sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7284] Or whatever it is.
None (KPVPS003)	[7285] It must be some [...] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7286] Erm ... don't know, sorry. [7287] And er, I don't know, I think it's all about skivers isn't it? [7288] Cos as soon as they go it's all gone a bit
Rebecca (PS586)	[7289] When I saw it I didn't think it was that funny. [7290] I didn't think, you know
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7291] Yo ho ho ho!
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7292] When did you see it? [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7293] I saw it about a year and a half ago. [7294] And I, when I read it, I hadn't looked at this [...] , but I never thought it was really, I didn't sit there going
None (KPVPS000)	[7295] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7296] you know, it was
None (KPVPS000)	[7297] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7298] all like, ooh! [7299] Who's at the door? [7300] No it's the wrong person. [7301] Oh my God!
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7302] Oh.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7303] All that sort of thing. [7304] You know, it's like, real sort of like ... you know, a farce.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7305] It's weird. [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7306] Yeah.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7307] It's just like the people really.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7308] People, yeah I know.
None (KPVPS000)	[7309] Basically.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7310] [...] , you know
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7311] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7312] less of that.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7313] [sighing] Oh dear [] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7314] How's it going you lot?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7315] Hello.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7316] Oh hello.
None (KPVPS003)	[7317] Have you worked out what's going on [...] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7318] No. [...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7319] Okay. [7320] [laugh] ... How far have you got?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7321] We've read the whole scene, but
None (KPVPS003)	[7322] You've read the whole scene. [7323] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7324] can't remember much.
None (KPVPS003)	[7325] Erm ... what ... what, what stage of [laughing] deciphering are you at [] ? [7326] [laughing] Have you got to [] ?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7327] [laughing] [...] [] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7328] Okay. [7329] Erm ... have you got
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7330] Tricky [...] too.
None (KPVPS003)	[7331] what, what Sottle is doing when he comes in on the scene?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7332] No.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7333] Isn't he trying to make him feel guilty ... Manhom and this woman?
None (KPVPS003)	[7334] Yes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7335] But he's er
None (KPVPS003)	[7336] Yeah. [7337] His lust for a whore.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7338] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7339] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7340] And that's why, and then erm ... he's trying to put, they try and blame Manhom that ... er when the ... er furnace thing stops he, that's all his fault is what
None (KPVPS003)	[7341] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7342] we thought.
None (KPVPS003)	[7343] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7344] So, I can understand what's going on, but it's like when I saw it, I saw the R S C production,
None (KPVPS003)	[7345] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7346] and like, and they were going, oh it's th the funniest play ever written!
None (KPVPS003)	[7347] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7348] And all this lot. [7349] And I went to see it and, you know, it was very slick ... they said, oh
None (KPVPS003)	[7350] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7351] who's at the door? [7352] No it's someone else. [7353] Oh quick, put a [...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7354] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7355] on.
None (KPVPS003)	[7356] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7357] But I, I never really ... thought it was rip-roaringly funny.
None (KPVPS003)	[7358] Perhaps if you don't really like farce ... as a ... as a kind of comedy then
Rebecca (PS586)	[7359] I suppose, yeah I'm not really in on them.
None (KPVPS003)	[7360] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7361] Cos even when I, I've been to see like, you know [...] ones I just sit there and tend to go, yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7362] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7363] Yeah. [7364] But you've gotta either be really in them or sort of out
None (KPVPS003)	[7365] Sort of back seat?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7366] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7367] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7368] Very different kind of humour where ... no, I, I, unfortunately I agree with you.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7369] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7370] But I, I'm hating [...] , but I mean ... yeah I could see its cleverness. [7371] And
Rebecca (PS586)	[7372] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7373] real ... physical cleverness.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7374] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7375] The staging was just brilliant!
Rebecca (PS586)	[7376] Yeah, it's really visual.
None (KPVPS003)	[7377] It's [...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7378] It's like when they did the erm ... you know when she comes on as a fairy
None (KPVPS003)	[7379] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7380] kingpin fairy, she sat on someone's head and she had this massive gown all over her, and that was really visual. [7381] Erm
None (KPVPS003)	[7382] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7383] he we wanted to her get off he just ran up to this erm, ladder and she just grabbed onto him, he just pulled it away.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7384] Is that [...] ?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7385] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[7386] It's really hard, yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7387] You cannot visualize something taking place.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7388] It's really wordy isn't it? [7389] It's really sort of.
None (KPVPS003)	[7390] And also, I mean, so many of the, the jokes just are ... very
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7391] quick jokes.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7392] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7393] They're based on maybe one word in a sentence but if you miss that, you've missed it. [7394] And that doesn't really matter in the theatre because you carry on
Rebecca (PS586)	[7395] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7396] along by the visual gags, so neither of them when
Rebecca (PS586)	[7397] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7398] you're reading it, you feel you've got to ... you've got to follow the ... follow the script. [7399] And the other thing about visual things, let's, let's say ... there is a reference to somebody having piles, but they make it a visual gag
Rebecca (PS586)	[7400] Yeah.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7401] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7402] whereas on the page it is ... you know
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7403] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7404] schoolboy humour.
None (KPVPS000)	[7405] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7406] You know?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7407] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7408] Erm ... I mean, nevertheless, obviously it's just somebody on the [...] scene is a bit
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7409] and that free way of talking ... about pain. [7410] And wrote it like that and published it like that. [7411] Something that Shakespeare never did. [7412] He didn't take anything and take it to the publishers, there you go.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7413] And he was a very conscientious playwright. [7414] [...] . So, you know, to part like him, you've gotta resent him.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7415] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[7416] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7417] That's th the lying stake. [7418] Anyway
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7419] Well the second bit on, don't you think you reach a point where it keeps going, the actual crap, and you go, well why are they doing it then?
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7420] Yeah.
None (KPVPS000)	[7421] It's really shit, yes, but let's just
Rebecca (PS586)	[7422] Yeah. [laugh]
None (KPVPS000)	[7423] carry on and see this.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7424] Can you get it on video this one?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7425] No, I don't think you can.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7426] Tt!
Rebecca (PS586)	[7427] It took ages for me to be able to get a
None (KPVPS003)	[7428] Well, I tried to get a video cos I wa I wanted to use this section to actually watch it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7429] Mm mm.
None (KPVPS003)	[7430] And sort of stop it
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7431] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7432] Yes!
None (KPVPS003)	[7433] every few minutes. [7434] I know. [7435] And I, I couldn't get one.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7436] Tt! [7437] Oh.
None (KPVPS003)	[7438] So, it was, it was, I,a as soon as I knew I'd be teaching this I thought the only way
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7439] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7440] to get them this across is, is to actually see it.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7441] Is there a video of it?
Ann (PS5AF)	[7442] I don't, oh
None (KPVPS003)	[7443] Apparently not, but erm
Rebecca (PS586)	[7444] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7445] there may be, I just ... I went into one video shop and I asked the le erm, some people here.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7446] Have you tried the library?
None (KPVPS003)	[7447] No.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7448] No. [7449] Library in
None (KPVPS003)	[7450] [...] ... here?
Inga (PS6RY)	[7451] Twickenham.
None (KPVPS003)	[7452] Or in Twickenham?
Inga (PS6RY)	[7453] Twickenham. [7454] It's really good.
None (KPVPS003)	[7455] Is it? [7456] Oh!
Inga (PS6RY)	[7457] Yeah, so join up.
None (KPVPS003)	[7458] [laughing] Thanks John. [7459] Commission [...] [] .
Rebecca (PS586)	[7460] Plug, plug there.
Kitty (PS6RX)	[7461] Yeah.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7462] [laugh] ... No it's really good, you can have them for like two days and it's only a pound, it's really good.
None (KPVPS003)	[7463] Oh!
Inga (PS6RY)	[7464] You get everything too.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7465] Well I'll look into that one. [7466] I think i this could be fairly crucial that you actually see it.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7467] Erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7468] if I could have your attention for a minute. [7469] What, any other things that you'd got, but I talked to ... each group individually, erm ... but if you want to share any of your thoughts with ... everybody else ... I'm standing in the way. [7470] Any illustrations ... for the scene we've just been doing and the things we've already been talking about, or any new ideas. [7471] Johnson's way of doing comedy. [7472] ... No, [...] , you got anything extra to say?
Ann (PS5AF)	[7473] Er er ... only we the bit about ... how they both [...]
None (KPVPS002)	[7474] The way she to
Ann (PS5AF)	[7475] at the same time.
None (KPVPS002)	[7476] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7477] Right. [7478] Okay, so ... I mean they sa they all do say they'll be talking at the same time, but ... as I say,th that bit goes there. [7479] And, oh I'm talking about this bit now in a minute
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7480] [...] not ... wrong.
None (KPVPS003)	[7481] The thing to bear in mind about Johnson is that he's a very, very, self-conscious professional kind of writer.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7482] [whispering] He knocked down so many other
Inga (PS6RY)	[7483] He was fat.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7484] ones though [] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7485] He was probably fat as well. [7486] Yeah. [7487] He was, but in fact, he drunk far too much.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7488] Sorry.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7489] It's alright.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7490] Erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7491] That explains it then doesn't it?
None (KPVPS003)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7492] Oh dear.
None (KPVPS003)	[7493] [laugh] It certainly
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7494] Well he,
None (KPVPS003)	[7495] would be
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7496] he, he
None (KPVPS003)	[7497] that fat people only
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7498] in
None (KPVPS003)	[7499] smoke.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7500] in, in, in his plays he ... he's not very nice about women because ... he was sexually frustrated.
None (KPVPS003)	[7501] Oh no he wasn't.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7502] He wasn't.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7503] No, no, I beg your pardon, [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7504] [laughing] Are you talking about you John [] ?
None (KPVPS003)	[7505] No.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7506] I, I feel that probably [...] professional status thing and this is not a therapy session. [7507] Erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7508] sort of ... erm ... no,Johns Johnson a, er, an interesting sexual life ... erm ... and he's not
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7509] Very.
None (KPVPS003)	[7510] frustrated.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7511] Yeah?
None (KPVPS003)	[7512] No. [7513] I think, I think ... he [...]
Inga (PS6RY)	[7514] Whose
None (KPVPS003)	[7515] and enjoy it [...] .
Inga (PS6RY)	[7516] Over there. [7517] Someone [...] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7518] So, no, no, afraid not. [7519] Erm ... and er, but he also had a ... major drinking problem. [7520] He was also the son of a builder ... which wasn't a particularly great thing to be in, be in England which is, you know considerably more snobby than, you know
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7521] and, what he did, set out to be, somebody who earned his living by writing, and that was a new idea. [7522] You didn't earn anything by writing. [7523] If you were Shakespeare
Rebecca (PS586)	[7524] Sorry.
None (KPVPS003)	[7525] you got a protection from an aristocratic person who, who looked after you, and he wrote not by his [...] . [7526] Johnson said no, I'm gonna write these plays, I'm gonna earn money for them, and then I'm gonna publish them, I'll earn money from the publication. [7527] So he did a whole edition, a folio volume about that big, and that's the kind of volume that the bible be published in, it shows sort of what ... weight was attached to this ... erm ... and he published his plays. [7528] Now, plays in that stage were the things that were ... performed two or three times then forgotten, here is Johnson saying, no, I'm gonna write down all my plays, I'm gonna publish them, you're gonna read them ... you're gonna read them as if they were learned things. [7529] He'd got this great idea of a type of an author. [7530] Now, at this [...] you may not have sympathy for that ... but ... it's significant in circles I've seen that you just don't ... [...] ... that Johnson has bothered ... to write out ... exactly how that play should be acted out, he's trying to stay in control of his plays. [7531] Shakespeare, we don't know what Shakespeare wanted ... to do on stage, he doesn't give you any idea ... at all. [7532] Johnson wants us to know exactly how his plays should be staged, he's a ... he's an actor's ... playwright. [7533] He's somebody cares about how actors can ... form actually on a stage, what's possible. [7534] He, he explores every single dramatic possibility. [7535] Okay. [7536] Let's get on with it. [7537] Erm ... this group also mentioned, and ... other people did as well just that acting plays is dramatic irony. [7538] I mean there is that biography ... as soon as she gets disguised. [7539] But it's just so, it's just the driving force really ... in this whole play ... that the audience ... knows what's going on. [7540] And then other characters, erm, particular, other characters don't. [7541] Any other things? [7542] Did your group come up with anything ... new Bob? [7543] No?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7544] You lot? [7545] Come up with anything new? [7546] No? [7547] You can't do any better than this?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7548] No.
None (KPVPS003)	[7549] Well there's a couple of things I will, I'll, I'll add then before we're shutting up about this. [7550] One is ... I don't know whether any, any of you noticed but ... come to that part when I reached this book, and the whole load of jokes on this page are topical ... they'll be appreciated by the audience at the time. [7551] There are political jokes
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7552] there are jokes about other plays, there are jokes about ... bits of London ... it's topical. [7553] Okay? [7554] That's another reason that Johnson is much harder to understand than Shakespeare. [7555] It's great for people like me who do research into ... politics and literature because ... you know, Johnson's like a key to ev whatever he's thinking at the time. [7556] Johnson's making a gag about it, you know, everybody wants to learn about it, but for us ... it's much more difficult in, in the twentieth century. [7557] Erm ... the other one, that I wanted to bring up in this, the reason I suppose, the second one to remember, is the idea of satire. [7558] And, for the sake of brevity I'm gonna give you some [laughing] definitions [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7559] Oh.
None (KPVPS003)	[7560] Do people mind me just ... telling you things? [7561] No? [7562] Okay. [7563] Say so, I mean ... you don't have to do this. [7564] Er, when ... oh well, okay. [7565] Everybody got ... an idea
Rebecca (PS586)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7566] of all this [...] is going? ... [cough]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7567] Ooh dear!
None (KPVPS003)	[7568] Okay. [7569] Johnson, just debating, we're getting on to the whole idea of Johnson's world [...] ... and the link ... though it worked out the same I'd say. [7570] Okay. [7571] The link is satire. [7572] Okay. [7573] Now this is a simplified construction, somewhat. [7574] Two basic definitions. [7575] One ... the oldest ... which comes from pre-Roman times, okay? [7576] Means, basically, thespian merrymaking. [7577] With any sort of ... thespian ... celebration ... and this is pre-Roman okay? [7578] ... Perhaps involving ... you know, the leaders of the village becoming servants and servants becoming leaders, or women dressing up as men or ... you know happy. [7579] All these things go on as a
Inga (PS6RY)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7580] [...] for the evenings. [7581] Erm ... the other one is ... Roman, which is one that some of you, I hope, will be a bit familiar with ... and ... a highly cultivated ... kind of literary tact. [7582] ... What brings both of these together basically, and this, if you want, is your working definition is ... is thought of ... attack through ... mockery. [7583] Okay? [7584] So it's like you're attacking something ... through mockery. [7585] It can be, sort of, for festive purposes, you're just poking fun at the priest or something
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7586] erm ... then you'd probably spring over there, you know what I mean. [7587] Erm ... but in Roman style it's a highly cultivated kind of literary attack.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7588] Okay. [7589] Both these kinds are inter-related ... so, that's really a sort of quite an artificial ... separation. [7590] And, the tricky thing about satire ... there's a lot more
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7591] to be said about definitions but, particularly satire, is it's very difficult to distinguish satire from other types of comedy. [7592] Like with irony, remember the first week? [...] , which I'll never forget it, tried to
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7593] erm ... make me explain the difference between irony and sarcasm. [7594] And I was still worrying about it. [7595] Waking up at night ... I can't actually differentiate between the two very easily. [7596] Erm ... I bore people, I might be at a dinner, I say look, what about irony and sarcasm? [7597] Anyway, after I've [...]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7598] This is true. [7599] This has become very sick. [7600] Erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7601] his idea of satire actually [laughing] is [] ... erm, if I hear satire, it's another one of those slippery things, you know ... where does ... begin? [7602] And where does comedy end? [7603] Where does irony come into it? [7604] You know, things like this, so take care with these things, they get very difficult to distinguish ... other kinds of comedy. [7605] Okay. [7606] Turning to Johnson ... which is what we're here for ... there are two erm ... versions, if you like, of the satire, particularly as Roman kind of satire which are relevant, okay? [7607] One is very pure satire, and he comes up with this idea as well. [7608] Erm ... attacking ... the social ... forms ... and customs ... of the time. [7609] I mean most satire does that ... but it's what Johnson's satire does ... particularly well. [7610] Okay? [7611] There's another category ... of satire
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7612] which, if you like ... Johnson's made his own. [7613] If you're gonna ru talk about the comedy ... of humours ... you ma more than likely gonna be talking about Johnson. [7614] Okay? [7615] And this is where humours ... has nothing to do with humorousness. [7616] Get that in your head. [7617] Comedy of humours basically means ... personality traits carried to excess. [7618] Manias. [7619] Okay. [7620] Sorry to digress. [7621] A comedy of ... aspects of [...] which are to be taken to extremes. [7622] Okay? [7623] So a modern humour on the stage might be ... a really sort of over-the-top virilous feminist. [7624] Okay? [7625] That'll be our modern style of ... erm ... humour. [7626] Right. [7627] That's it. [7628] Now ... the next, I want you ... to look at ... the verse prologue of the play. [7629] It comes just before act one, scene one. [7630] The verse prologue. [7631] Okay? [7632] In particular ... lines eleven to the end. [7633] Okay? [7634] So just skim through the first ten lines ... then eleven to the end really concentrate on. [7635] I wa I want you to tell me ... if ... what is Johnson saying that his particular comedy of humours ... this play ... is doing? [7636] What, what's its purpose? [7637] What is the purpose of Johnsonian comedy? [7638] Comedy to Johnson.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7639] Okay. [7640] ... Go for the last couple of lines ... whate whatever stage you're at.
Rebecca (PS586)	[clears throat]
None (KPVPS003)	[7641] Okay. [7642] Who wants to tell me ... what Johnson is saying about the, of Johnsonian comedy? [7643] ... Anything other than a guess.

13 (Tape 130702)

None (KPVPS003)	[7644] Er religion [...] , Johnson. [7645] I don't think religious belief, as such. [7646] I think his hypocritical ... extremism is in fact. [7647] I'm not asking you to do these now, but they're useful for your ... erm, this was a handout given to people last year that I was ... got given. [7648] And ... if you're ... wanting to spend more time on Johnson at any stage, this is sort of there's something that I sort of don't trust ... producing some ... er, you know a play to ... a load of boxes but erm, la la la, and sheets as well. [7649] Sorry. [7650] You can finish looking later on. [7651] And you want four there.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7652] We can share ours.
None (KPVPS003)	[7653] Yeah. [...]
Ann (PS5AF)	[7654] We haven't got a copy.
None (KPVPS003)	[7655] Erm ... if you like, you filled in all those boxes ... in your spare time ... you come up with a whole list of these ... follies of ... human beings. [7656] But ... there's always a but ... if there's really a moral lesson ... it's all just like an observation. [7657] There are four ... if you're greedy and lustful, hypocritical ... stupid ... whatever, you're going to be easily conned. [7658] But does Johnson ... so he's attacking ... these people for doing that ... but does he ... is there any sort of ...
Ann (PS5AF)	[7659] Not really.
None (KPVPS003)	[7660] border of ora morality about that?
Ann (PS5AF)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7661] Well maybe that's it then.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7662] He's punishing them.
None (KPVPS003)	[7663] For those of you who don't realize [...] ... about five minutes, but ... yeah, basically nobody's punished ... at all. [7664] And whilst in a Shakespeare play ... well, let me just give the, give the ex ... erm example that ... if this was a Shakespeare play ... for example, and ... you, you had all these characters in disguise conning other people and whatever, by the end of the play everybody would be out of their disguises ... and ... marrying each other and all the bad people would have been consigned, you know, to stage off
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7665] erm, maybe not to be totally finished off, but, you know,th they're off the stage and you just end up with this, sort of, festive marriage business. [7666] In Johnson, none of that happened. [7667] And in fact, a nice bit of reading the play was that ... I bet, and Johnson's gonna sort it out, he's gonna sort it out, he's gonna, he's gonna ... you know, expose ... Sottle, and Face, and Doll as wicked ... and to reassert all the, you know, nice ... values, like self-knowledge, er, and romantic [...] and forgiveness and all these things. [7668] And he's got two opportunities to do that. [7669] In Surly, d'ya remember Surly? [7670] The one he ... hoists ... Sottle and that lot [...] time dressed up as Spanish captain and cons [...] . [7671] But in the end Surly's moved, sort of shoved off stage. [7672] He doesn't get anywhere. [7673] And the other one is when Ludwitt comes back ... th the master of the house. [7674] You think yeah, yeah! [7675] Ludwitt's gonna clear all these people out, punish them. [7676] [...] blood. [7677] But he doesn't. [7678] But look at the scene in which Ludwitt comes back. [7679] Act five, scene five. [7680] Er erm ... sorry, not act five, scene five ... erm ... act five, scene three. [7681] The end of act five.
Rebecca (PS586)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7682] Scene three. [7683] ... From line seventy
Rebecca (PS586)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7684] five ... from about seventy three whatever. [7685] Ludwitt overhears Face talking to Sottle who's still in the house. [7686] Okay? [7687] Erm ... who wants to, who wants to do Ludwitt? [7688] [...] ... Er ... Katherine.
Rebecca (PS586)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7689] Right Katherine. [7690] Erm
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7691] I'd rather not.
None (KPVPS003)	[7692] You'd rather not. [7693] Okay. [7694] Erm ... John. [7695] Ludwitt.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7696] Okay.
None (KPVPS003)	[7697] And ... Face ... er, next on the list is
None (KPVPS000)	[7698] [whispering] Next one comes to me [] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7699] Andrea.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7700] Yeah, I'll do Face.
None (KPVPS003)	[7701] Okay. [7702] So that's Face and Ludwitt. [7703] Okay. [7704] From, oh is it so?
Ann (PS5AF)	[7705] Oh right.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7706] [reading play] Oh is it so? [7707] Then you converse with spirits. [7708] Come sir! [7709] No more ... may your, may your tricks degenerate the truth the shortest way.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7710] [reading] Dismiss this rabble sir! [7711] What shall I do? [7712] I'm catched .
Inga (PS6RY)	[7713] Good neighbours, I thank you all, you made a part. [7714] Come sir, you know that I am an indulging master and therefore conceal nothing. [7715] What's your medicine? [7716] To draw so many, several sorts of wild fowl.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7717] Sir! [7718] You won't want to effect mirth and wit, for here's no place to talk ... on th in the street. [7719] Give me the leave to make the best of my fortune and only pardon me the abuse of your house. [7720] It's all I beg. [7721] I'll have you to a widow in recompense that you should give me thanks for ... and make you seven years younger, and a rich one. [7722] Tis but your putting on a Spanish clock. [7723] I have her within. [7724] You need not fear the house. [7725] I was not visited.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7726] But for me you came
None (KPVPS003)	[7727] It was not visited [...] .
Inga (PS6RY)	[7728] Ha?
None (KPVPS003)	[7729] Sorry, it was not visited.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Inga (PS6RY)	[7730] But for me you came sooner than you expected.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7731] It is true sir. [7732] Pray you forgive me [] ?
Inga (PS6RY)	[7733] Well, let's see your widow [] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7734] Okay. [7735] What, what did Ludwitt [...] ? [7736] I mean, from the first line it's ... says, what shall I do, I'm catched ? [7737] Think he's been caught. [7738] And what happened?
None (KPVPS000)	[7739] Well he [...] back up again.
Rebecca (PS586)	[cough]
Inga (PS6RY)	[7740] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7741] You don't know?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7742] What's the tricky bit? [7743] ... Face has been caught in the act ... using his master's house a house as a brothel and ... er
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7744] a place for ... you know, false alchemy. [7745] Ludwitt comes back, all the neighbours are clustering around trying to get in, Ludwitt, first of all he sends away the neighbours
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7746] he asks Face to tell him everything ... and what does Face offer him?
Ann (PS5AF)	[7747] The widow.
None (KPVPS003)	[7748] A widow. [7749] And what does Ludwitt do?
None (KPVPS000)	[7750] Yeah, yeah I'll pay.
None (KPVPS003)	[7751] He accepts it. [7752] [laughing] Yeah, that's right I'll pay this time [] . [7753] Yeah. [7754] And, and
Rebecca (PS586)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7755] [...] , you know ... no difficulty. [7756] The point that I'm trying to make is that ... Johnson made it plain, yes, that greed makes you gullible, lust makes you gullible, er er, you will be conned, but nobody gets punished. [7757] I mean ... what is the point of ... saying he's going to [...] ... better us ... yet all he's doing is pointing out these follies. [7758] He's not saying, you know, you will suffer for them ... except by humiliation.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7759] Well that lady gets punished but then he's not like taking this ... so sort of view that there's ... any sort of order in the world. [7760] He's
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
Inga (PS6RY)	[7761] sort of you, and people do get their [...] broken up, and you say, oh well Face gets away with it, but he's the only one, everyone else ... sort of gets on their face.
None (KPVPS003)	[7762] But, the very fact
Inga (PS6RY)	[7763] So, so, so
None (KPVPS003)	[7764] that Face survives basically
Inga (PS6RY)	[7765] Yes.
None (KPVPS003)	[7766] arch ... as if he has a
Inga (PS6RY)	[7767] Right, Face ... Face is, is ... a brilliant [...] , and, and like
None (KPVPS003)	[7768] So that he's getting
Inga (PS6RY)	[7769] better
None (KPVPS003)	[7770] his reward?
Inga (PS6RY)	[7771] [clears throat] ... He's not getting his reward but it be ... too simplistic to say ... oh well, if you're gonna be bad you're gonna get [...] , but this
Rebecca (PS586)	[cough]
Inga (PS6RY)	[7772] doesn't happen like that.
None (KPVPS003)	[7773] No.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7774] What he probably is saying is that ... you more than likely get [...] unless you actually ... [...] . [7775] The majority of people get things done ... through the greed and the lust ... and therefore, also religion.
None (KPVPS003)	[7776] So, are you saying ... that Johnson, despite the fact that he was dealing with human types, human beings, was actually more realistic in terms of how the world as a whole works ... in that, bad people do get away with things ... if they're good enough [...] ?
Inga (PS6RY)	[7777] I think, yeah I think, that, that he's structured and [...] like the, like plays like King Lear, where ... there's this sort of unspoken erm ... good guy at the top that sees that anything is punished that's bad, and people get their just desserts.
None (KPVPS003)	[7778] Yeah. [7779] Well ... hopefully we're gonna do about King Lear. [7780] But, yeah, I take your analogy that there are plays in which time, or the gods, or God ... sort things out.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7781] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7782] And, and, yeah. [7783] Okay. [7784] And people get exposed and ... all the rest of it. [7785] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7786] Okay, so it's often the anarchist ... that's erm ... as far as we got. [7787] Erm ... crass value judgment time please. [7788] Who likes Johnson, and who likes Shakespeare? [7789] First of all, anybody like Johnson better than Shakespeare?
None (KPVPS000)	[7790] I do.
None (KPVPS003)	[7791] You do. [7792] Why?
None (KPVPS000)	[7793] Just cos erm, I don't really like Shakespeare. [7794] It's a bit more, it's more
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS000)	[7795] humorous to me. [7796] I, it just appeals more. [7797] I'm not really a Shakespeare fan.
Inga (PS6RY)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7798] But you can't really sort of put your finger on any
None (KPVPS000)	[7799] It's just the setting of it as well, at the back. [7800] You know, it's set in London. [7801] It just appeals to me more.
None (KPVPS001)	[7802] I think Shakespeare appeals to me more because I can understand it.
None (KPVPS003)	[7803] Right.
None (KPVPS001)	[7804] Because I can't understand this. [7805] I just get frustrated with it.
None (KPVPS003)	[7806] Right.
None (KPVPS001)	[7807] And perhaps if I can understand it more, then
None (KPVPS003)	[7808] Yeah.
None (KPVPS001)	[7809] I'll be able to appreciate it.
None (KPVPS003)	[7810] It makes you feel that you, you, being able to see this play
None (KPVPS001)	[7811] Yeah. [7812] I'd erm
None (KPVPS003)	[7813] then you, you, you'd be able
None (KPVPS001)	[7814] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7815] get a much better, better chance.
None (KPVPS001)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7816] I mean which, yeah, cos, cos we need it underlined. [7817] [...] again, that, that has a visual ... but erm, his [...] Shakespeare. [7818] Why do you think we all Sh study Shakespeare? [7819] Why is it a
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7820] kind of a national icon? [7821] Because ... we don't have to see him. [7822] People like you and me, I earn my living by reading Shakespeare but it's not like you're supposed to do anyway, you know. [7823] But, the fact is you can read over it, you can study it in a very literary way, you just can't do the same thing with Johnson. [7824] It's very much, you know ... erm ... stage, a stage [...] . [7825] Well okay, those of you who liked the Shakespeare better, for whatever reasons, even if it's just because you didn't get to grips with Johnson, which of the plays, first of all, erm ... did you find most interesting?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7826] Dunno.
None (KPVPS003)	[7827] Wi who's read, read Twelfth Night and found that one most interesting?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7828] I thought, I liked Twelfth Night cos it's funny.
None (KPVPS003)	[7829] So, as a comedy, Twelfth
Rebecca (PS586)	[7830] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7831] Night.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7832] Better.
None (KPVPS003)	[7833] But most of you said that Twelfth Night wasn't the funniest ... play of these three scintillating [laughing] comedies chosen [] .
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7834] Ha!
None (KPVPS003)	[7835] Definitely have to [laughing] [...] [] ... demonstrate. [7836] Erm ... but you liked Twelfth Night?
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7837] I've seen Twelfth Night and
None (KPVPS003)	[7838] Yeah.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7839] And that, yeah. [7840] Again, we're back to this idea that, you know, it's ridiculous stuck in a drama course and not ... and, and looking at them just as, as text. [7841] Did anybody like the Winter's Tale? [7842] I'm more interested, I'm more interested in why is that?
Ann (PS5AF)	[7843] I thought it was the [...] tragic comedy like life really. [7844] Like
None (KPVPS003)	[7845] Yeah.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7846] not just ... either one or the other, or [...] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7847] It was all a mixture.
Ann (PS5AF)	[7848] I dunno.
None (KPVPS003)	[7849] Yeah. [7850] What have you thought?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7851] Er er ... it was more sort of solid er er ... where er ... Twelfth Night seemed to jump.
None (KPVPS003)	[7852] Solid?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7853] Well, I'm not very good with words. [7854] Erm, it was more erm ... well Twelfth Night you had all these different characters and they're coming in and out and they
None (KPVPS003)	[7855] Mm.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7856] were jumping all over the place and the action moved
None (KPVPS003)	[7857] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7858] so quickly
None (KPVPS003)	[7859] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7860] but wi with the Winter's Tale, I managed to grasp what was going on.
None (KPVPS003)	[7861] Right.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7862] It was a
None (KPVPS003)	[7863] It was developed more
Rebecca (PS586)	[7864] it was more compact, you know
None (KPVPS003)	[7865] at the ending.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7866] Yeah.
None (KPVPS003)	[7867] Yeah. [7868] Right. [7869] Yeah, I think that's true, I think it's a very ... well structured
Rebecca (PS586)	[7870] It's like
None (KPVPS003)	[7871] play.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7872] it's like ... [...] isn't it? [7873] Sort of, all to do
None (KPVPS003)	[7874] Yeah.
Rebecca (PS586)	[7875] with the children and
None (KPVPS003)	[7876] Yeah. [7877] Yeah. [7878] He's, he's got a [...] . [7879] Erm ... well I feel we haven't really done justice to Johnson. [7880] Well maybe I should have given him two weeks instead of one, but, anyway. [7881] Erm
Rebecca (PS586)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7882] Can I have just have about ... John Donne
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7883] and what's gonna happen over the next few weeks? [7884] Erm, we've finished a bit earlier today.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[7885] Could have done.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[laugh]
None (KPVPS003)	[7886] [...] ... Erm ... okay. [7887] We've technically got three weeks of Donne, mostly by reading [...] ... ne er, the week after next. [7888] Ya? [7889] What I said to the other group, partly because they ... had a, an hour before the lecture is that ... I'll use next week with them, as, as an introduction to the poetry of this period. [7890] Now, I can either do that with you, very sort of general introduction trying to place Donne in comparison with other poets an and just ... really getting the basics of Donne ... or, since you'll have had, just had a lecture ... we could go on and do ... some more sort of specific complex things. [7891] Any, any strong opinions either way? [7892] Would you like an introduction?
Rebecca (PS586)	[7893] So what's sor what's happening in the lecture? [7894] Is it like er introduction or
None (KPVPS003)	[7895] Erm, the lecture is on erm ... tell you
Rebecca (PS586)	[7896] Mhm.
None (KPVPS001)	[7897] Question of styles.
None (KPVPS003)	[7898] question of styles. [7899] I'm not actually sure, who's giving it?
None (KPVPS001)	[7900] Fay .
None (KPVPS003)	[7901] Well ... yeah, she's probably gonna be, now, I, no it's either that she's going to be ... well certainly, an introduction to the kind of ... methods that Donne ... Donne uses ... which I, I'm supposed to follow up on. [7902] Is it, it tells you though what, what interests is erm ... I, I love the virtue of this period so, yeah, it's a good excuse for me to sort of
Rebecca (PS586)	[7903] Mhm.
None (KPVPS003)	[7904] erm ... share [...] .
Inga (PS6RY)	[7905] Do we like, do this now? [7906] Sort of every, sort of
None (KPVPS003)	[7907] Right.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7908] impression, or is, like if you
None (KPVPS003)	[7909] That is in your book
Inga (PS6RY)	[7910] read something
None (KPVPS003)	[7911] actually. [7912] I it's in the Craig
Inga (PS6RY)	[7913] and you can read something
None (KPVPS003)	[7914] edition.
Inga (PS6RY)	[7915] you can read something like that?
None (KPVPS003)	[7916] Yeah. [7917] Rather than doing it in erm
Inga (PS6RY)	[7918] Then you [...] that, but it'll be useful right now
None (KPVPS003)	[7919] when you [...] .
Inga (PS6RY)	[7920] to actually talk about it.
None (KPVPS003)	[7921] Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7922] Okay. [7923] That I'll ... well that, yes I'll say ... can you use this week ... to make sure you understand when Donne was alive. [7924] And it's not a stupid [...] . [7925] But, exactly when he was alive ... basically what happened in his career. [7926] I don't normally sort of insist on people looking at the, the biographical background for the, but it's crucial with Donne ... for you to pick up on a lot of the
Inga (PS6RY)	[clears throat]
None (KPVPS003)	[7927] meanings of, of it. [7928] So, make sure you know what ... about his life and his times. [7929] If you can, erm, I don't know how many of you have a sort of religious background anyway, in terms of you know, things like Sunday school and whatever, but if you can just ... get yourself familiar with the basic points of difference between Protestant and Catholic faith. [7930] That might help you as well. [7931] Erm ... can't think of anything else ... er er ... that I can suggest ... just to erm
Ann (PS5AF)	[7932] What have we gotta do?
None (KPVPS003)	[7933] Hmm?
Ann (PS5AF)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7934] Right. [7935] Basically I'm gonna do ... a collection of love poetry with you ... a selection of religious poetry ... focusing on the holy sonnets ... in the religious poetry. [7936] We'll do those two areas quite thoroughly ... in seven hours. [7937] The thing you probably won't have much time to do in seven hours is erm ... his sermons, which really do tie in with the
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7938] religious poetry. [7939] Give you the, the ... the prose side of the poetry, but raise the, the [...] . [7940] And I'm gonna try and squeeze in some work on his satires ... as well. [7941] Erm ... which are called elegies, just to confuse you. [7942] Erm ... so those are the three or four areas we'll be doing, is reli i religious poetry, love poetry, and the satires, which are actually called elegies. [7943] Okay? [7944] Erm, would you like me to, to actually ... say erm, the particular poems? [7945] I mean, I was gonna ... let you have them next week, but if you'd like some to sit down and look at ... erm ... I'll find my ... things if I can. [7946] Oh oh! [7947] Oh well
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
Rebecca (PS586)	[7948] I don't care.
None (KPVPS003)	[7949] Alright, I don't think she did them.
None (KPVPS001)	[7950] Er erm
None (KPVPS003)	[7951] Okay.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7952] Right. [7953] Could you look at ... The Anniversary ... this is all in the Craig edition, okay? [7954] The Good Morrow. [7955] Love's Alchemy. [7956] The Dream.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[whispering] [...] []
Rebecca (PS586)	[7957] [whispering] I know, just for you [] .
None (KPVPS003)	[7958] The Relic.
Inga (PS6RY)	[cough]
None (KPVPS003)	[7959] The Sun Rising. [7960] The last one, Women's Constancy. [7961] These are all love poems, okay? [7962] ... Right.
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...] [...]
None (KPVPS003)	[7963] I have here, if, if anybody wants, erm, a work sheet that ... erm, I was gonna give out and then I ... I thought, probably wouldn't get done. [7964] So, but if you'd like it on ... The Alchemist, and you feel you really haven't got through to The Alchemist, it's here, okay? [7965] Just take one off there. ... [leaving classroom]
Unknown speaker (KPVPSUNK)	[...]